Post by: renocat on June 12, 2016, 07:59:33 AM
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Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2016, 09:53:10 AM
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Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2016, 10:12:06 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2016, 10:19:22 AM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2016, 10:28:54 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 10:37:21 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2016, 10:56:48 AM
Ban guns
Bushmasters
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 10:59:41 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2016, 11:05:23 AM
How does one carry an AR15 into a night club? Anybody interview the bouncer?
Shoot the bouncer with said assault rifle?
Post by: TheHamburglar on June 12, 2016, 11:06:39 AM
How does one carry an AR15 into a night club? Anybody interview the bouncer?
Is this some sort of schtick going on here?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2016, 11:36:30 AM
(https://i.sli.mg/ysOmp6.jpg)
Why would it have to be one or the other? Someone mighty dumb made that
Post by: stunted on June 12, 2016, 11:37:20 AM
Post by: Trim on June 12, 2016, 12:05:00 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2016, 12:09:07 PM
The florida governor says the biggest thing americans can do to help is to pray.
No thoughts?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2016, 12:17:16 PM
Post by: Trim on June 12, 2016, 12:17:49 PM
The florida governor says the biggest thing americans can do to help is to pray.
No thoughts?
Nope, this isn't a time for thought. Just need more religion.
https://twitter.com/TrimGoEMAW/status/742037125663621120
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 12:17:58 PM
Post by: Trim on June 12, 2016, 01:35:54 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2016, 05:10:05 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2016, 05:16:22 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 05:19:30 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2016, 05:25:27 PM
Hillary Clinton wants weakness and non vigilance. Never been a more important choice in 2016.
lol
Post by: Big Sam on June 12, 2016, 05:37:34 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 06:07:34 PM
Notice the trend of children of immigrants being the radicals drawn to Jihad?
Yes. Specifically Muslim immigrants. But let's blame guns.
"These kids today" are both more socially connected but the connections are increasingly empty. Patriotism is on the decline among young people, thanks in large part to public education. We are increasingly a society without firm convictions. People naturally yearn for allegience to something bigger than themselves. If we're not going to provide it - someone else will. It's a great recruiting opportunity for ISIS. Throw in a dash of batshit crazy Islamic extremism and you've got a serious problem.
But let's just make it harder for everyone to own guns.
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 06:13:51 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 06:16:38 PM
do you honestly think this guy killed these people because of Islam?
You seriously don't?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckx8pDvUYAAoOUI.jpg)
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 06:21:27 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 06:24:29 PM
I think the guy was batshit crazy just like the dude that shot up a theater full of people the dude that shot up VT the dude that shot up a grade school and the dude that shot a bunch of people in a church.
Ok bub. If you want to deny that Islam doesn't have a bigger, particular problem with crazy extremism, you go right ahead.
CNN: Shooter Pledged to ISIS (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/12/us/orlando-nightclub-shooting/)
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 06:26:55 PM
Post by: chum1 on June 12, 2016, 06:28:56 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 06:31:03 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2016, 06:33:46 PM
Post by: Trim on June 12, 2016, 06:37:19 PM
Was the Indiana man that attempted to shoot up the LA gay pride event a radicalized member of Islam?
Radicalized white midwesterner.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1BnmkW4s--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/r4nrljiu1wqanm5nsoof.jpg)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 06:37:32 PM
Looks like conservatives have a much greater problem with extremism than other groups of people
I don't think you want to compare body counts between "conservative extremists" and radical Islamic extremists. I'll even spot you a Timothy McVeigh, even though I don't consider militia nut jobs as "conservative." You're really making a fool of yourself.
Post by: chum1 on June 12, 2016, 06:41:43 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2016, 06:43:27 PM
Was the Indiana man that attempted to shoot up the LA gay pride event a radicalized member of Islam?
Radicalized white midwesterner.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1BnmkW4s--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/r4nrljiu1wqanm5nsoof.jpg)
There are a lot of extremely uptight people in the Midwest.
LOL at the "radical Muslims are conservatives" talking point. Let me know when conservative American males take to the streets beating women for not covering themselves or in en mass call for the deaths of gays while killing their own daughters in honor killings in the front yard.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 06:45:03 PM
Radical Islamists are conservatives, you dipshits.
Gotcha. I guess the Muslim ones are just way more effective at actually killing large groups of people. It takes discipline.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 06:49:54 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2016, 06:54:18 PM
Btw - the willful ignorance and excuses for radical Islam so perfectly displayed in this thread are a big reason for the backlash that led to Trump's nomination. Stupid begets stupid. You liberal dumbshits are partially to blame for this moron being the GOP nominee. Thanks for that, assholes.
Agreed, thanks Barack "Just workplace violence" Obama!
Post by: chum1 on June 12, 2016, 06:54:35 PM
Btw - the willful ignorance and excuses for radical Islam so perfectly displayed in this thread are a big reason for the backlash that led to Trump's nomination. Stupid begets stupid. You liberal dumbshits are partially to blame for this moron being the GOP nominee. Thanks for that, assholes.
Just to clarify, if this is the case, Democrats helped themselves here and should be happy about that, right?
Post by: pvegs on June 12, 2016, 06:55:11 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 06:57:39 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2016, 06:58:41 PM
you guys arent going to believe this but of the 9 of the 15 deadliest shootings in america have been perpetrated by white guys. I mean i think I'm starting to see a trend.
Uptight White Midwesterners?
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 07:03:11 PM
you guys arent going to believe this but of the 9 of the 15 deadliest shootings in america have been perpetrated by white guys. I mean i think I'm starting to see a trend.
Uptight White Midwesterners?
my research assistant went home for the evening but I think we can probably assume this to be the case. Pretty clear who needs to be deported. Should probably not sell them weapons of any kind, ever.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 07:47:47 PM
Btw - the willful ignorance and excuses for radical Islam so perfectly displayed in this thread are a big reason for the backlash that led to Trump's nomination. Stupid begets stupid. You liberal dumbshits are partially to blame for this moron being the GOP nominee. Thanks for that, assholes.
Just to clarify, if this is the case, Democrats helped themselves here and should be happy about that, right?
I guess. If you infect other people with a horrible disease - in this case, stupidity - and you're happy with that...
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 07:50:17 PM
Islam - The Religion of Peace (as long as you don't take it too literally and decide to murder a bunch of people).
Post by: Big Sam on June 12, 2016, 07:50:43 PM
Radical Islamists are conservatives, you dipshits.
I'll spot you three legendary leftists, and you can work from there (I will go in order of body count, high to low):
Mao
Stalin
Hitler
I mean, if this is going to head off the rails just because I observed it was the children of migrants tending to be radicalized (which is an interesting issue, IMO, for when you ponder that often parents migrate to escape the very things their child is drawn to, it is sort of nuts), then I might as well politicize this more, since some have chosen to do so.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 07:53:35 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2016, 08:17:50 PM
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Mateen was able to purchase both weapons legally days before the shooting, according to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
“He is not a prohibited person, so he can legally walk into a gun dealership and acquire and purchase firearms. He did so. And he did so within the last week or so,” ATF Assistant Special Agent In Charge Trevor Velinor said Sunday in Orlando.
Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/article83300332.html#storylink=cpy
Post by: Trim on June 12, 2016, 08:32:20 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2016, 08:42:29 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2016, 08:55:51 PM
Lot of people ITT not following renos call for not politicizing this thing
Translation: When it's a registered Democrat radicalized Muslim-DO NOT POLITICIZE! Some white dude-POLITICIZE!
Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2016, 08:59:45 PM
Who cares what party it is? Shouldn't we be trying to stop people from dying, not trying to decide which "side" is right?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2016, 09:02:56 PM
This is my first dip into the pit and I'll jump right back out as I obviously don't get it....but I'll go ahead and ask.
Who cares what party it is? Shouldn't we be trying to stop people from dying, not trying to decide which "side" is right?
That's a very good point and question, sadly the Prog-Libs of the world literally come out of the woodwork with garbage before the ambulances even arrive if it's reported that it might be some white guy. They're also the first out of the gate before the shooting stops to remind us repeatedly that Islam is the religion of "peace" and anyone who is upset that a radical Islamist may have been the perp is racist.
Post by: sys on June 12, 2016, 09:05:17 PM
Shouldn't we be trying to stop people from dying, not trying to decide which "side" is right?
it's not that many people that die or that big of a problem (any of the problems - islamic terrorism, anti-homosexual violence or easy access to guns), so may as well use the incident to argue for your side, if you're convinced you have a side that is better than the alternative.
Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2016, 09:05:43 PM
This is my first dip into the pit and I'll jump right back out as I obviously don't get it....but I'll go ahead and ask.
Who cares what party it is? Shouldn't we be trying to stop people from dying, not trying to decide which "side" is right?
That's a very good point and question, sadly the Prog-Libs of the world literally come out of the woodwork with garbage before the ambulances even arrive if it's reported that it might be some white guy. They're also the first out of the gate before the shooting stops to remind us repeatedly that Islam is the religion of "peace" and anyone who is upset that a radical Islamist may have been the perp is racist.
None of these words seem to be helping people from dying :dunno:
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 12, 2016, 09:07:57 PM
This is my first dip into the pit and I'll jump right back out as I obviously don't get it....but I'll go ahead and ask.
Who cares what party it is? Shouldn't we be trying to stop people from dying, not trying to decide which "side" is right?
That's a very good point and question, sadly the Prog-Libs of the world literally come out of the woodwork with garbage before the ambulances even arrive if it's reported that it might be some white guy. They're also the first out of the gate before the shooting stops to remind us repeatedly that Islam is the religion of "peace" and anyone who is upset that a radical Islamist may have been the perp is racist.
None of these words seem to be helping people from dying :dunno:
Words never do.
Post by: Trim on June 12, 2016, 09:16:07 PM
How much does the stuff he bought cost?
Looks like even the most frugal shopper would have to spend $500 for an AR-15, but I doubt this guy sought out the best deal.
You're bothered by happening to see two dudes kiss? Go treat yourself to a $500 fun binge in rough ridin' orlando of all places to take your mind off it. TF is wrong with these people?
Post by: Trim on June 12, 2016, 09:40:28 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2016, 09:42:29 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2016, 09:45:55 PM
You're bothered by happening to see two dudes kiss? Go treat yourself to a $500 fun binge in rough ridin' orlando of all places to take your mind off it. TF is wrong with these people?
And if you're bothered by gay people, Orlando is probably not the best place to live.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 09:53:50 PM
1) whether it was legal for him to buy a gun? As if, had he bought the gun illegally, it would somehow make a difference? - insane
2) how people expressed sympathy for the deceased and their families. Apparently it's disingenuous if there are religious undertones? - insane
3) whether he was a "radical" Muslim? - he acted alone, so what?
Crazy psychopaths do crazy horrible irrational crap. It's not a matter of policy, unless you're talking about mental health, which none of you are.
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 10:01:45 PM
A crazy guy shoots over 100 people, 50+ of which are dead, and you guys are worried about:
1) whether it was legal for him to buy a gun? As if, had he bought the illegally, it would somehow make a difference? - insane
2) how people expressed sympathy for the deceased and their families. Apparently it's disingenuous if there are religious undertones? - insane
3) whether he was a "radical" Muslim? - he acted alone, so what?
Crazy psychopaths do crazy horrible irrational crap. It's not a matter of policy, unless you're talking about mental health, which none of you are.
Batshit crazy is generally a term used to describe a severely mentally ill person, so at least one person has mentioned it.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 10:02:13 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 10:06:52 PM
I think the guy was batshit crazy just like the dude that shot up a theater full of people the dude that shot up VT the dude that shot up a grade school and the dude that shot a bunch of people in a church.
Oh
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 10:19:49 PM
Just like the last whacko, iirc
Post by: Phil Titola on June 12, 2016, 10:22:31 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 12, 2016, 10:27:48 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 10:30:00 PM
Post by: bucket on June 12, 2016, 10:34:48 PM
And to all you libtard dimwits thinking "if only the government had more control [money]", this guy was being monitored by the fbi. So if anybody let anybody down it was the government, per usual.
Just like the last whacko, iirc
Monitored by the FBI is a loose term. It's very possible this message board is being "monitored."
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 10:39:25 PM
Post by: stunted on June 12, 2016, 10:41:25 PM
Was the Indiana man that attempted to shoot up the LA gay pride event a radicalized member of Islam?
Please be Muslim please be Muslim
RadicalizeD white midwesterner.
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--1BnmkW4s--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/r4nrljiu1wqanm5nsoof.jpg)
crap
Moments later...
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An anti-Clinton, pro-Bernie Sanders photo was posted in February
:D
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 10:43:20 PM
It appears we all agree that mentally ill people should never be able to purchase a gun ever.
They should be institutionalized. A gun is one of about a thousand things they shouldn't be able to buy.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 10:46:32 PM
And to all you libtard dimwits thinking "if only the government had more control [money]", this guy was being monitored by the fbi. So if anybody let anybody down it was the government, per usual.
Just like the last whacko, iirc
Monitored by the FBI is a loose term. It's very possible this message board is being "monitored."
lol. Worshipping at the house of libtard
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2016, 10:54:02 PM
Post by: treysolid on June 12, 2016, 10:54:46 PM
It appears we all agree that mentally ill people should never be able to purchase a gun ever.
They should be institutionalized. A gun is one of about a thousand things they shouldn't be able to buy.
The thing you have to remember about mentally ill people, FSD, is that they typically aren't diagnosed until after they do something really crazy/violent. Easy access to semi-automatic assault rifles (not handguns, even though most people in america are killed with handguns, separate issue) allows for a mentally ill person to announce their condition to the world in a really brutal way.
If you refuse to budge an inch on decreasing/eliminating the availability of assault weapons, then you better have a super fantastic minority-report style way to screen all the crazies out before they do something terrible. I'd like to hear it. Please enlighten me.
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2016, 10:58:33 PM
Mentally ill people should have equal access to guns as long as the second amendment exists and/or continues to be interpreted as it is currently interpreted.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Post by: pvegs on June 12, 2016, 10:59:44 PM
https://twitter.com/JanisAverySays/status/742200141675778048
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 11:00:57 PM
Let's create a system of laws governing the freedom of 300+ million law abiding citizens based upon the actions of a handful of murdering psychopaths. That's the rational approach.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 11:03:08 PM
Mentally ill people should have equal access to guns as long as the second amendment exists and/or continues to be interpreted as it is currently interpreted.
Just like felons, "as interpreted"
Dumbass
Post by: michigancat on June 12, 2016, 11:05:35 PM
Mental illness isn't a crimeMentally ill people should have equal access to guns as long as the second amendment exists and/or continues to be interpreted as it is currently interpreted.
Just like felons, "as interpreted"
Dumbass
Post by: treysolid on June 12, 2016, 11:07:17 PM
Yes, making the scary looking guns more illegal (super illegal?) is the only way to solve this problem. And we all know people spontaneously go crazy, no way to prevent it.
Let's create a system of laws governing the freedom of 300+ million law abiding citizens based upon the actions of a handful of murdering psychopaths. That's the rational approach.
A). WTF are you talking about?? AR-15's aren't illegal.
B). You didn't address my point. How do you pre-screen every american citizen for mental illness?
Or, you don't care because you're fine that mass shootings are now our new normal?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 11:10:45 PM
Fantasy land is a complex place.
Post by: Tobias on June 12, 2016, 11:14:20 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 11:19:21 PM
Stop trying to use every tragedy as an opportunity to take things away from people who aren't doing anything wrong. It makes you look like the horrible people you are. Nobody likes you and nobody wants to be like you.
Post by: treysolid on June 12, 2016, 11:25:27 PM
Sounds like we have a real pickle here. We NEED to have background checks before ANYONE can buy an ASSAULT rifle (the scary looking ones the epa uses) to make sure MENTALLY ILL people can't get them, BUT the "background" check has to be prospective because you only become violent crazy spontaneously, and in any event the constitution, as interpreted, allows ANYONE to buy a gun whenever they want no matter their background, which is no good, because of the spontaneous nature of violent mental illness.
Fantasy land is a complex place.
Actually, the biggest motivation for having background checks isn't to make sure the mentally ill can't get guns, but to make sure people with violent criminal backgrounds can't get guns. You're really avoiding this mental health screening issue. I mean, you don't want to talk about it at all, likely because you have no clue how that would work in real life. You just heard Wayne LaPierre say it one day and thought it sounded good.
Post by: pvegs on June 12, 2016, 11:26:21 PM
Dear libtards,
Stop trying to use every tragedy as an opportunity to take things away from people who aren't doing anything wrong. It makes you look like the horrible people you are. Nobody likes you and nobody wants to be like you.
Who are you even talking to? I just posted a photo of 5k ppl who are upset a bunch of folks got slaughtered for no reason. But keep your guns and shoot your fake dick off with it.
Post by: Trim on June 12, 2016, 11:29:57 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 11:30:45 PM
Sounds like we have a real pickle here. We NEED to have background checks before ANYONE can buy an ASSAULT rifle (the scary looking ones the epa uses) to make sure MENTALLY ILL people can't get them, BUT the "background" check has to be prospective because you only become violent crazy spontaneously, and in any event the constitution, as interpreted, allows ANYONE to buy a gun whenever they want no matter their background, which is no good, because of the spontaneous nature of violent mental illness.
Fantasy land is a complex place.
Actually, the biggest motivation for having background checks isn't to make sure the mentally ill can't get guns, but to make sure people with violent criminal backgrounds can't get guns. You're really avoiding this mental health screening issue. I mean, you don't want to talk about it at all, likely because you have no clue how that would work in real life. You just heard Wayne LaPierre say it one day and thought it sounded good.
Are you rough ridin' joking? The kdhe is up in your kids' crap before they're a day old.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 11:33:12 PM
Dear libtards,
Stop trying to use every tragedy as an opportunity to take things away from people who aren't doing anything wrong. It makes you look like the horrible people you are. Nobody likes you and nobody wants to be like you.
Who are you even talking to? I just posted a photo of 5k ppl who are upset a bunch of folks got slaughtered for no reason. But keep your guns and shoot your fake dick off with it.
It's in the salutation, Wonderboy.
But thx for sharing that sweet gif
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 12, 2016, 11:35:37 PM
Look at these wonderful people gathered around their mayor holding their cell phones in the air.
#goE
Post by: treysolid on June 12, 2016, 11:50:17 PM
Sounds like we have a real pickle here. We NEED to have background checks before ANYONE can buy an ASSAULT rifle (the scary looking ones the epa uses) to make sure MENTALLY ILL people can't get them, BUT the "background" check has to be prospective because you only become violent crazy spontaneously, and in any event the constitution, as interpreted, allows ANYONE to buy a gun whenever they want no matter their background, which is no good, because of the spontaneous nature of violent mental illness.
Fantasy land is a complex place.
Actually, the biggest motivation for having background checks isn't to make sure the mentally ill can't get guns, but to make sure people with violent criminal backgrounds can't get guns. You're really avoiding this mental health screening issue. I mean, you don't want to talk about it at all, likely because you have no clue how that would work in real life. You just heard Wayne LaPierre say it one day and thought it sounded good.
Are you rough ridin' joking? The kdhe is up in your kids' crap before they're a day old.
^ not a plan. A plan, FSD, provides concrete steps that can be taken to achieve a desired goal. You could have said something like "anyone wanting to buy a gun must undergo a thorough psych evaluation before they are allowed to take possession of the firearm. they will then have to submit to psych evaluations on a yearly basis. if they fail the evaluation or skip their evaluation meeting, their firearms will be denied/confiscated." but i don't know, obviously not your strong suit.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2016, 12:31:45 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.denverpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2F20150918__OP20MEYERp1.jpg&hash=c64e7d69ecef3e665835c9b79462172248cfe243)
and this kind of crazy:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckx8pDvUYAAoOUI.jpg)
There is a difference between this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2016%2F02%2F24%2F23%2F1AB5D15F00000578-3462980-image-a-9_1456357428083.jpg&hash=3e44a958264a4caddedfa6627e64d20ced088932)
and this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F151205111459-farook-malik-split-overlay-tease.jpg&hash=d365b3f387783976f6c70b743ef075c105ec9971)
See the difference? On the one hand, you've got crazy. Like cucoo bananas crazy. If you sat down with that guy and took one look at his crazy eyes you'd say "that's guys either on drugs or rough ridin' crazy - or maybe both."
On the other hand, you're dealing with otherwise rational behaving and looking people who have secretly adopted a crazy obsession with radicalized religion. It's harder to figure that out - until they start shooting or blow themselves up.
This is not semantics. They're two different kinds of crazy, with two different solutions. You can usually spot the first kind of crazies. And we need to lock these fuckers up before they hurt people - to FSD's point.
The second kind is a lot harder to spot in advance. We need more robust FBI, intelligence, and immigration control to protect against the Islamic radicals.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 13, 2016, 12:36:47 AM
This thread took a strange turn. Let's get something straight: there's a difference between this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.denverpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2F20150918__OP20MEYERp1.jpg&hash=c64e7d69ecef3e665835c9b79462172248cfe243)
and this kind of crazy:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckx8pDvUYAAoOUI.jpg)
There is a difference between this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2016%2F02%2F24%2F23%2F1AB5D15F00000578-3462980-image-a-9_1456357428083.jpg&hash=3e44a958264a4caddedfa6627e64d20ced088932)
and this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F151205111459-farook-malik-split-overlay-tease.jpg&hash=d365b3f387783976f6c70b743ef075c105ec9971)
See the difference? On the one hand, you've got crazy. Like cucoo bananas crazy. If you sat down with that guy and took one look at his crazy eyes you'd say "that's guys either on drugs or rough ridin' crazy - or maybe both."
On the other hand, you're dealing with otherwise rational people who have secretly adopted a crazy obsession with radicalized religion. It's harder to figure that out - until they start shooting or blow themselves up.
This is not semantics. They're two different kinds of crazy, with two different solutions. You can usually spot the first kind of crazies. And we need to lock these fuckers up before they hurt people - to FSD's point.
The second kind is a lot harder to spot in advance. We need more robust FBI, intelligence, and immigration control to protect against the Islamic radicals.
Glad to hear K-S-U coming out in favor of bigger government. :thumbs:
Post by: stunted on June 13, 2016, 12:45:14 AM
https://youtu.be/Vev-OzHQy94
Allahu akbar
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 12:48:30 AM
Post by: pvegs on June 13, 2016, 01:08:20 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 01:17:30 AM
This thread took a strange turn. Let's get something straight: there's a difference between this kind of crazy:What on earth
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.denverpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2F20150918__OP20MEYERp1.jpg&hash=c64e7d69ecef3e665835c9b79462172248cfe243)
and this kind of crazy:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckx8pDvUYAAoOUI.jpg)
There is a difference between this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2016%2F02%2F24%2F23%2F1AB5D15F00000578-3462980-image-a-9_1456357428083.jpg&hash=3e44a958264a4caddedfa6627e64d20ced088932)
and this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F151205111459-farook-malik-split-overlay-tease.jpg&hash=d365b3f387783976f6c70b743ef075c105ec9971)
See the difference? On the one hand, you've got crazy. Like cucoo bananas crazy. If you sat down with that guy and took one look at his crazy eyes you'd say "that's guys either on drugs or rough ridin' crazy - or maybe both."
On the other hand, you're dealing with otherwise rational behaving and looking people who have secretly adopted a crazy obsession with radicalized religion. It's harder to figure that out - until they start shooting or blow themselves up.
This is not semantics. They're two different kinds of crazy, with two different solutions. You can usually spot the first kind of crazies. And we need to lock these fuckers up before they hurt people - to FSD's point.
The second kind is a lot harder to spot in advance. We need more robust FBI, intelligence, and immigration control to protect against the Islamic radicals.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 13, 2016, 01:53:06 AM
What a mess.
Post by: stunted on June 13, 2016, 02:05:35 AM
Post by: pvegs on June 13, 2016, 02:43:31 AM
Dude worked for a DHS contractor G4S Security, which merged with Wackenhut who has all kinds of Federal contracts. G4S was one of the first "Certified" DHS security contractors and is engaged in guarding all kinds of Federal and Military facilities. Judicial Watch busted G4S for illegal alien dumping, moving illegal aliens is also another one of their large contracts with DHS.
What a mess.
That is some truly irregular spacing. Sorry, Dax. You get a 75% for the semester. The industry standard is one between sentences. Have a good summer.
Post by: Cire on June 13, 2016, 07:21:06 AM
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Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2016, 08:24:47 AM
Was the Indiana man that attempted to shoot up the LA gay pride event a radicalized member of Islam?
Please be Muslim please be MuslimRadicalizeD white midwesterner.
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crap
Moments later...QuoteAn anti-Clinton, pro-Bernie Sanders photo was posted in February
:D
haha
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2016, 08:28:32 AM
This thread took a strange turn. Let's get something straight: there's a difference between this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.denverpost.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2016%2F04%2F20150918__OP20MEYERp1.jpg&hash=c64e7d69ecef3e665835c9b79462172248cfe243)
and this kind of crazy:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ckx8pDvUYAAoOUI.jpg)
There is a difference between this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.dailymail.co.uk%2Fi%2Fpix%2F2016%2F02%2F24%2F23%2F1AB5D15F00000578-3462980-image-a-9_1456357428083.jpg&hash=3e44a958264a4caddedfa6627e64d20ced088932)
and this kind of crazy:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.cdn.turner.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F151205111459-farook-malik-split-overlay-tease.jpg&hash=d365b3f387783976f6c70b743ef075c105ec9971)
See the difference? On the one hand, you've got crazy. Like cucoo bananas crazy. If you sat down with that guy and took one look at his crazy eyes you'd say "that's guys either on drugs or rough ridin' crazy - or maybe both."
On the other hand, you're dealing with otherwise rational behaving and looking people who have secretly adopted a crazy obsession with radicalized religion. It's harder to figure that out - until they start shooting or blow themselves up.
This is not semantics. They're two different kinds of crazy, with two different solutions. You can usually spot the first kind of crazies. And we need to lock these fuckers up before they hurt people - to FSD's point.
The second kind is a lot harder to spot in advance. We need more robust FBI, intelligence, and immigration control to protect against the Islamic radicals.
You don't think the guy in the last photo looks like he's on drugs?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2016, 08:31:46 AM
Possibly 2 other shooters escaped.
False flag?!
Post by: EMAWican on June 13, 2016, 08:53:32 AM
Post by: Winters on June 13, 2016, 08:57:31 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 09:10:22 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2016, 09:12:57 AM
Is Obama done trying to back these ppl or nah?
Who?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 09:13:36 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 09:14:38 AM
He loves Muslims. He loves them killing Americans too.Is Obama done trying to back these ppl or nah?
Who?
Post by: ChiComCat on June 13, 2016, 09:16:07 AM
He loves Muslims. He loves them killing Americans too.Is Obama done trying to back these ppl or nah?
Who?
Wacky posts need and image and moved to the FB thread at this point
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 09:17:08 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 09:19:59 AM
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 09:25:20 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2016, 09:25:48 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on June 13, 2016, 09:27:08 AM
I'm sorry you guys are ignorant and continue to ignore the truth. He's rough ridin' done this to your country and you continue to ignore it.
How did Obama do this?
Post by: CNS on June 13, 2016, 09:27:29 AM
How do we prevent domestic terrorism attacks like this from happening again? What's scary is that there has yet to be an appropriate solution proposed to this question. After 9/11 solutions were apparent and were implemented to the point where they hasn't been a terrorist attack on American soil similar to that magnitude.
Those 9/11 solutions took a lot of privacy away from us and made traveling somewhat mumped up. Do not want a similar reaction.
Clinton is calling for a new govt agency just to track lone wolf dumbasses. I mean, do we not have enough ppl in the NSA and FBI doing this now? We need to spend more money on another org that won't speak with other orgs?
Post by: CNS on June 13, 2016, 09:29:01 AM
I'm sorry you guys are ignorant and continue to ignore the truth. He's rough ridin' done this to your country and you continue to ignore it.
How did Obama do this?
He refuses to say Radical Islam. Those are magic words that make violence stop
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 09:30:04 AM
He's so sensitive on Muslim matters. He wants these ppl to have access to our states, backs them, etc. This is what happens when you're so lax on terrorism issues. Obama is rough ridin' nuts. This is what happens when your country goes totally left. There's no protection anymore.I'm sorry you guys are ignorant and continue to ignore the truth. He's rough ridin' done this to your country and you continue to ignore it.
How did Obama do this?
Post by: ChiComCat on June 13, 2016, 09:31:23 AM
He's so sensitive on Muslim matters. He wants these ppl to have access to our states, backs them, etc. This is what happens when you're so lax on terrorism issues. Obama uis rough ridin' nuts. This is what happens when your country goes totally left. There's no protection anymore.I'm sorry you guys are ignorant and continue to ignore the truth. He's rough ridin' done this to your country and you continue to ignore it.
How did Obama do this?
How does he back them and allow them access that another president would not?
Also, part of me just wanted to get Wacky to post again after he made fun of my typo.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 09:34:06 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2016, 09:34:48 AM
How do we prevent domestic terrorism attacks like this from happening again? What's scary is that there has yet to be an appropriate solution proposed to this question. After 9/11 solutions were apparent and were implemented to the point where they hasn't been a terrorist attack on American soil similar to that magnitude.
Those 9/11 solutions took a lot of privacy away from us and made traveling somewhat mumped up. Do not want a similar reaction.
Clinton is calling for a new govt agency just to track lone wolf dumbasses. I mean, do we not have enough ppl in the NSA and FBI doing this now? We need to spend more money on another org that won't speak with other orgs?
Yeah, hopefully we don't do anything about this. We have a mass shooting just about every week, and the odds of getting caught in one are still very low. We should try to be a free society and worry less about lone wolf shooters.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2016, 09:35:16 AM
You're bad at English bro, get over it. This is the most lax this country has ever been. It's all because of Obama and his leadership. He allows these POS into our country. It used to be a proud day for ppl to become citizens here. Now he just opens a gate and lets them run in, with minimal requirements.
This guy was born here, and I sort of doubt Obama let his parents in.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 09:36:08 AM
Post by: EMAWican on June 13, 2016, 09:42:05 AM
How do we prevent domestic terrorism attacks like this from happening again? What's scary is that there has yet to be an appropriate solution proposed to this question. After 9/11 solutions were apparent and were implemented to the point where they hasn't been a terrorist attack on American soil similar to that magnitude.
Those 9/11 solutions took a lot of privacy away from us and made traveling somewhat mumped up. Do not want a similar reaction.
Clinton is calling for a new govt agency just to track lone wolf dumbasses. I mean, do we not have enough ppl in the NSA and FBI doing this now? We need to spend more money on another org that won't speak with other orgs?
Yeah, hopefully we don't do anything about this. We have a mass shooting just about every week, and the odds of getting caught in one are still very low. We should try to be a free society and worry less about lone wolf shooters.
People need to understand that this is a terrorism issue and not a gun issue. Guns facilitated the massacre, but are not the root.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 09:47:45 AM
Post by: CNS on June 13, 2016, 09:48:14 AM
How do we prevent domestic terrorism attacks like this from happening again? What's scary is that there has yet to be an appropriate solution proposed to this question. After 9/11 solutions were apparent and were implemented to the point where they hasn't been a terrorist attack on American soil similar to that magnitude.
Those 9/11 solutions took a lot of privacy away from us and made traveling somewhat mumped up. Do not want a similar reaction.
Clinton is calling for a new govt agency just to track lone wolf dumbasses. I mean, do we not have enough ppl in the NSA and FBI doing this now? We need to spend more money on another org that won't speak with other orgs?
Yeah, hopefully we don't do anything about this. We have a mass shooting just about every week, and the odds of getting caught in one are still very low. We should try to be a free society and worry less about lone wolf shooters.
Or maybe we can just make it so that there is communication between our existing databases. There was a lot of talk back around 9/11 that if the FBI, NSA, and Interpol had a way of sharing data that the highjackers would have been found out.
What will a new agency do?
We should most def try to maintain ourselves as a free society.
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 09:49:34 AM
You're bad at English bro, get over it. This is the most lax this country has ever been. It's all because of Obama and his leadership. He allows these POS into our country. It used to be a proud day for ppl to become citizens here. Now he just opens a gate and lets them run in, with minimal requirements.
:love:
This may take the crown as the stupidest thing said in the pit!!!
Post by: Tobias on June 13, 2016, 09:52:20 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 10:00:03 AM
Look how crazy liberal you are, Lickneckey. :love:You're bad at English bro, get over it. This is the most lax this country has ever been. It's all because of Obama and his leadership. He allows these POS into our country. It used to be a proud day for ppl to become citizens here. Now he just opens a gate and lets them run in, with minimal requirements.
:love:
This may take the crown as the stupidest thing said in the pit!!!
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 10:01:41 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 10:03:44 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2016, 10:04:26 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on June 13, 2016, 10:07:06 AM
I think both issues should be addressed responsibly to limit the damage going forward. We can become much safer without banning an entire religion from entering the country or banning guns.
What does it rough ridin' matter?
If we are trying to prevent something then we should probably try to understand what caused it.
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 10:07:17 AM
Look how crazy liberal you are, Lickneckey. :love:You're bad at English bro, get over it. This is the most lax this country has ever been. It's all because of Obama and his leadership. He allows these POS into our country. It used to be a proud day for ppl to become citizens here. Now he just opens a gate and lets them run in, with minimal requirements.
:love:
This may take the crown as the stupidest thing said in the pit!!!
Do you have any understanding of the history of immigration in this country?
I am just going to assume that the answer is no.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 10:09:05 AM
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 10:10:29 AM
What's the line for when religion is deemed radicalized?
Interesting question, is radicalization an absolute line or is it relative the tenets of that religion? I'd think it would be and absolute line of advocating for violence in order to spread their religion but maybe it is broader definition of using coercion?
How about those who express or believe that those gays got what they deserved pursuant to their religious text of choice?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 10:10:36 AM
Terrorism will never be 100% eliminated. Islamic terrorism is one of them main causes of these destructive acts. Guns will never be 100% eliminated. Guns enable these violent acts to reach the destructive levels that they do.A crazy person pledged his allegiance to ISIS and then killed 50 ppl "as an act of terrorism". Wtf is to get?
I think both issues should be addressed responsibly to limit the damage going forward. We can become much safer without banning an entire religion from entering the country or banning guns.What does it rough ridin' matter?
If we are trying to prevent something then we should probably try to understand what caused it.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2016, 10:11:05 AM
Also if he acted as a lone wolf is this really an act of terrorism or a hate crime? I understand the question is semantic and doesn't change anything but... If he acted alone out of rage over seeing gay men kissing then this seems more hate crimey. I mean if someone were an ISIS/PKK/Chechen/FARC/IRA associate or sympathizer and lashed out violently killing several in a road rage incident would it be terrorism?
He pledged allegience to ISIS. The "lone wolf" narrative misses the point. Organizations like ISIS, aided by the Internet, spawn these sorts of "lone wolf" attacks.
Obama is not blame for this - no more so than our ineffective federal agencies at large - but he will bear responsibility for many more attacks in the future. Obama has actively pushed to import hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants en masse, who as a result of such block migration will not assimilate, much as what is currently occurring in Minnesota with the Somali community, and it breeds radicalization. As Trump says, we need smarter immigration policy. Granted, he's a ducking moron, but at least he recognizes we have a problem.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 13, 2016, 10:14:07 AM
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2016, 10:16:11 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 13, 2016, 10:16:36 AM
Why are there always initial reports of more shooters that end up getting retracted?
ratings
Post by: mocat on June 13, 2016, 10:17:00 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2514628113/dumbanddumber.jpg)
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 13, 2016, 10:17:09 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 10:17:34 AM
Most terrorist acts would fall under the hate crime umbrella.
I would agree with this statement. I would however pose that a terrorist attack is one that exhibits a calculated use of violence to achieve a political or ideological goal. Now I can see how an argument can be made that this situation fits that definition. However this situation seems far more akin to the actions of Dylan Roof, a situation that was officially deemed to not have been terroristic in nature.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 10:18:33 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 10:21:25 AM
Are you rough ridin' serious? History was my jam, dumbass
Great! Please explain how this is the "most lax" this country has ever been. TIA
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 10:23:38 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 10:30:24 AM
Also if he acted as a lone wolf is this really an act of terrorism or a hate crime? I understand the question is semantic and doesn't change anything but... If he acted alone out of rage over seeing gay men kissing then this seems more hate crimey. I mean if someone were an ISIS/PKK/Chechen/FARC/IRA associate or sympathizer and lashed out violently killing several in a road rage incident would it be terrorism?
He pledged allegience to ISIS. The "lone wolf" narrative misses the point. Organizations like ISIS, aided by the Internet, spawn these sorts of "lone wolf" attacks.
Obama is not blame for this - no more so than our ineffective federal agencies at large - but he will bear responsibility for many more attacks in the future. Obama has actively pushed to import hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants en masse, who as a result of such block migration will not assimilate, much as what is currently occurring in Minnesota with the Somali community, and it breeds radicalization. As Trump says, we need smarter immigration policy. Granted, he's a ducking moron, but at least he recognizes we have a problem.
I appreciate this perspective but would offer that I don't believe an immigration policy exists that leads to smooth assimilation. If smarter immigration means no Muslims then we have done something similar in the past through the Chinese Exclusion Act. I would suggest however that such a policy might not serve to panacea of tension alleviation that some imagine.
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 10:34:06 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2016, 10:35:48 AM
What's the line for when religion is deemed radicalized?
Interesting question, is radicalization an absolute line or is it relative the tenets of that religion? I'd think it would be and absolute line of advocating for violence in order to spread their religion but maybe it is broader definition of using coercion?
How about those who express or believe that those gays got what they deserved pursuant to their religious text of choice?
http://m.chron.com/news/article/Texas-Lt-Governor-Dan-Patrick-tweets-reap-what-8076147.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile
Post by: CNS on June 13, 2016, 10:38:30 AM
What's the line for when religion is deemed radicalized?
Interesting question, is radicalization an absolute line or is it relative the tenets of that religion? I'd think it would be and absolute line of advocating for violence in order to spread their religion but maybe it is broader definition of using coercion?
How about those who express or believe that those gays got what they deserved pursuant to their religious text of choice?
http://m.chron.com/news/article/Texas-Lt-Governor-Dan-Patrick-tweets-reap-what-8076147.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile
If ppl want change, they should start by making sure ppl like that don't gain office. I am surprised that guy had the intelligence to delete a tweet since he didn't have the intelligence to not tweet that in the first place. Morons and zealots holding office is a part of many of our problems.
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 10:43:01 AM
If ppl want change, they should start by making sure ppl like that don't gain office.
Also deny their access to guns.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 13, 2016, 10:43:15 AM
What's the line for when religion is deemed radicalized?
Interesting question, is radicalization an absolute line or is it relative the tenets of that religion? I'd think it would be and absolute line of advocating for violence in order to spread their religion but maybe it is broader definition of using coercion?
How about those who express or believe that those gays got what they deserved pursuant to their religious text of choice?
http://m.chron.com/news/article/Texas-Lt-Governor-Dan-Patrick-tweets-reap-what-8076147.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile
If ppl want change, they should start by making sure ppl like that don't gain office. I am surprised that guy had the intelligence to delete a tweet since he didn't have the intelligence to not tweet that in the first place. Morons and zealots holding office is a part of many of our problems.
scheduled tweets are bad.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2016, 10:44:42 AM
What's the line for when religion is deemed radicalized?
Interesting question, is radicalization an absolute line or is it relative the tenets of that religion? I'd think it would be and absolute line of advocating for violence in order to spread their religion but maybe it is broader definition of using coercion?
How about those who express or believe that those gays got what they deserved pursuant to their religious text of choice?
http://m.chron.com/news/article/Texas-Lt-Governor-Dan-Patrick-tweets-reap-what-8076147.php?cmpid=twitter-mobile
If ppl want change, they should start by making sure ppl like that don't gain office. I am surprised that guy had the intelligence to delete a tweet since he didn't have the intelligence to not tweet that in the first place. Morons and zealots holding office is a part of many of our problems.
The article claims that he posts a bible verse every Sunday a 7 am and that this one was scheduled last Thursday. It's sort of a weird verse to tweet, though.
Post by: CNS on June 13, 2016, 10:45:56 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on June 13, 2016, 10:47:15 AM
Also, Twitter should make an option that will prompt you just before a pre-scheduled tweet goes out.
Quote from: Twitter Prompt
Still a good idea?
Post by: 8manpick on June 13, 2016, 11:00:13 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:01:35 AM
Wacky started binging early today... Wow! Such zeal!I think i'm still drunk from yesterdays sunday funday with Ms. Wacky. Talk about a binder!
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 11:04:29 AM
It's been listed above. Read 'dax's post. Obama wants to flood refugees here to prove a point that this nation isn't "judgemental". He doesn't care about our safety.
So it is your argument that allowing 10,000 asylum seekers in a 12 months period represents the "laxest" period of US immigration policy?
You might want to see if Brown Mackie will give you a refund on your history degree.
Or at least stop publically announcing that History is your "jam".
Dumbass
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 11:06:56 AM
Wacky started binging early today... Wow! Such zeal!I think i'm still drunk from yesterdays sunday funday with Ms. Wacky. Talk about a binder!
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fg-ecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FG%2F01%2Faplusautomation%2Fvendorimages%2F548cfcb7-108e-4a10-80c0-5cea48abd6f1.jpg._CB328197310_.jpg&hash=a9a8422ec2b453bcbe2fd0d327612ae8b9904577)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:08:00 AM
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 13, 2016, 11:11:28 AM
Yeah, I don't buy it. I mean, it's good spin for them, and far superior than copping to being a huge bigot(again, for them), however I don't buy it.
i like to think he gets up every sunday morning and picks out a total zinger verse and then tweets it at the exact time every Sunday. real boss move, imo.
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 11:15:28 AM
Post by: treysolid on June 13, 2016, 11:15:55 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 13, 2016, 11:16:23 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:18:26 AM
in 2015, there were ~350 mass shootings in this country. so far this year, there have been 133. only 3 of those (Chattanooga, San Bernadino and now Orlando) have been linked to radical islam. So while radical islam is a problem, it's a very, very, very tiny part of a major epidemic.Good point. Let's ignore this historic mass shooting that was radical islam driven. Look at the percentages. No big deal.
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 11:19:17 AM
Hey dumb eff, libtard. Eat crap. If you do some research, yyou'll understand how 'lax Obama has turned this country.
In 9 months we have admitted roughly 4,500 asylum seekers. At its peak Ellis Island processed 10,000 a day. But you are prolly right that Obummers process is like totes way laxer.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:21:18 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 11:22:17 AM
Quite the metamorphosis.
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 13, 2016, 11:23:14 AM
If he believed it Thursday and believes it, he shouldn't have deleted it Sunday.
not every one has your ethics tho.
Post by: Tobias on June 13, 2016, 11:23:25 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:24:24 AM
When did Wacky turn from misguided philanderer to my racist redneck uncle?I didn't even notice you were a poster here until now. What's a licknecky and why is so out of bounds hipstery/apologists for all left wing nut jobs?
Quite the metamorphosis.
Post by: CNS on June 13, 2016, 11:24:51 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2016, 11:25:23 AM
If he believed it Thursday and believes it, he shouldn't have deleted it Sunday.
Yeah. That is holy scripture that he erased on the sabbath of all days.
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
This country as a whole is the most 'lax it's been on common day subjects than it's ever been. It's been good for some matters. If you can't see that, then you're rough ridin' blind.
So now the argument is that the country is the most lax it's been on "common day subjects"?
What the eff does that even mean? Is this situation also Obama's fault?
Is this a casual tap out on your immigration take?
:bwpopcorn:
Post by: EMAWican on June 13, 2016, 11:26:20 AM
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 11:27:33 AM
If he believed it Thursday and believes it, he shouldn't have deleted it Sunday.
not every one has your ethics tho.
What's crazy is that whole Trim 3:16 thing is just a gE/wwe reference and doesn't come from religious scripture at all!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:28:53 AM
Post by: Brock Landers on June 13, 2016, 11:29:46 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 11:30:00 AM
When did Wacky turn from misguided philanderer to my racist redneck uncle?I didn't even notice you were a poster here until now. What's a licknecky and why is so out of bounds hipstery/apologists for all left wing nut jobs?
Quite the metamorphosis.
Your last few posts make it comical that you started this mini meltdown with English proficiency smack talk.
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2016, 11:30:22 AM
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 11:31:42 AM
If he believed it Thursday and believes it, he shouldn't have deleted it Sunday.
Yeah. That is holy scripture that he erased on the sabbath of all days.
Should his church give him the boot? I tend to think so.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:32:05 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 11:32:16 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:32:54 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 11:34:08 AM
Does licknecky just hang out here all day and shout out conservatives? How much pot do you think he smokes a day? I bet he smells like dreads. :lol:
Given that you were previously unaware that I posted here this seems unlikely.
However logic clearly isn't your strong suit today.
Post by: treysolid on June 13, 2016, 11:34:19 AM
in 2015, there were ~350 mass shootings in this country. so far this year, there have been 133. only 3 of those (Chattanooga, San Bernadino and now Orlando) have been linked to radical islam. So while radical islam is a problem, it's a very, very, very tiny part of a major epidemic.Good point. Let's ignore this historic mass shooting that was radical islam driven. Look at the percentages. No big deal.
JFC, wacky. talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees. no one is ignoring this shooting, but we need to put it in proper context.
Post by: Tobias on June 13, 2016, 11:35:07 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:35:27 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 13, 2016, 11:35:56 AM
Post by: DQ12 on June 13, 2016, 11:37:04 AM
good discussion ITT guysyes i'm pretty impressed with the high level of discourse happening here in the gE.c TNJMBP.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:37:58 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:39:33 AM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 11:43:33 AM
Don't you think it's alarming how many ppl that live in this country, who hate it? It terrifies me to death.
You live in Johnson county, right?
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 11:44:05 AM
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 11:44:31 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:45:36 AM
I live in Jackson. Downtown KC.Don't you think it's alarming how many ppl that live in this country, who hate it? It terrifies me to death.
You live in Johnson county, right?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:46:42 AM
Also, pretty sure Wacky forgot to log in to his renocat sock for this thread and is just running with it now.A lot of ppl can't own up to how radical their thoughts are. At least I can. Yes, if they look Muslim, check them three times at the airport just in case.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 11:47:27 AM
I live in Jackson. Downtown KC.
Ah, well you should move to Overland Park/Olathe/any other burb in JoCo with the rest of the scaredy cats.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 11:48:34 AM
A lot of ppl can't own up to how radical their thoughts are. At least I can. Yes, if they look Muslim, check them three times at the airport just in case.
Can you differentiate between Westboro Baptist Church Members and mainstream (non-bible aggie affiliated) christians?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:49:06 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:49:39 AM
Why would I want to do that? :Yuck:I live in Jackson. Downtown KC.
Ah, well you should move to Overland Park/Olathe/any other burb in JoCo with the rest of the scaredy cats.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 11:49:55 AM
Yeah, because i'm not a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Then you should be able to differentiate between dumbfucks like the Orlando guy and regular muslims.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 11:53:04 AM
Why would I want to do that? :Yuck:
Because the real word "terrifies" you.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:53:28 AM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 11:53:59 AM
Yeah, because i'm not a respect.
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Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:54:28 AM
I think you take what I say too literal. How's your ex meth head of a wife doing, btw?Why would I want to do that? :Yuck:
Because the real word "terrifies" you.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:55:25 AM
How earthy are you? I bet you smell like incense. :love:Yeah, because i'm not a respect.
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Post by: Kat Kid on June 13, 2016, 11:56:40 AM
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Post by: mocat on June 13, 2016, 11:56:45 AM
I will admit I'm a little bit racist and border line crazy conservative.
look at that
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 11:58:43 AM
It's called ownership. Some of you should own your thoughts.I will admit I'm a little bit racist and border line crazy conservative.
look at that
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 12:00:52 PM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 12:02:46 PM
I think you take what I say too literal. How's your ex meth head of a wife doing, btw?
You're not very good at English.
She's still a meth-head and very much an ex.
She's a piece of crap.
And you're still "terrified" of the real world.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 12:04:11 PM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 12:04:43 PM
I've never been held at gun point by a white person, but guess what? I have by a black person. It kinda made me a little bit racist. I've never seen a guy get his jaw broke in by a white person at martini corner, but guess what, I saw a bunch of black men do it to a white person there. Guess what, two guys in my wedding are black, am I a super racist? No, but yeah, I have weird thoughts from time to time if i'm safe in alley at night.
:ROFL: You're a pussy.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 12:05:08 PM
Post by: DQ12 on June 13, 2016, 12:06:45 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 12:07:11 PM
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 12:09:40 PM
Nice tap out
You're a pussy if one black guy pulling a gun on you makes you a racist or watching some black guys beat up a white gay makes you a "little bit" racist.
I grew up pretty rough and have seen a lot of violent bullshit. I can promise you that white people are just as "scary" as black people. Violent people exist in all colors. Go hang out in Independence if you think this crap is unique to any one race.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 12:10:52 PM
I don't like the uncalled-for maligning of JoCo happening in this thread.
Any maligning of JoCo is called for at anytime. I grew up next to the stadiums. JoCo sucks.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 12:11:21 PM
STFU guy. Why do you care about a persons personal thoughts? We already know how trashy you are. You've shared it with us.Nice tap out
You're a pussy if one black guy pulling a gun on you makes you a racist or watching some black guys beat up a white gay makes you a "little bit" racist.
I grew up pretty rough and have seen a lot of violent bullshit. I can promise you that white people are just as "scary" as black people. Violent people exist in all colors. Go hang out in Independence if you think this crap is unique to any one race.
Post by: TCUHornedFrog on June 13, 2016, 12:13:23 PM
STFU guy. Why do you care about a persons personal thoughts? We already know how trashy you are. You've shared it with us.
You seem pretty defensive over this stuff.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 12:13:59 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 12:17:18 PM
Post by: DQ12 on June 13, 2016, 12:18:16 PM
Not everywhere can be as great as the area surrounding the Truman Sports Complex.I don't like the uncalled-for maligning of JoCo happening in this thread.
Any maligning of JoCo is called for at anytime. I grew up next to the stadiums. JoCo sucks.
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2016, 12:19:31 PM
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 12:20:00 PM
normally I'd move all this to the pit but
Thread split.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 13, 2016, 12:24:03 PM
in 2015, there were ~350 mass shootings in this country. so far this year, there have been 133. only 3 of those (Chattanooga, San Bernadino and now Orlando) have been linked to radical islam. So while radical islam is a problem, it's a very, very, very tiny part of a major epidemic.
There are over 100 million gun owners in this country and 99.9%+ of them have managed to own guns without "mass shooting" people.
Also, lol at libtards redifining "mass shooting" to rope in regular homicides (largely drug related) with these unmotivated random acts of violence. Do you really need to inflate the numbers to air your gestapo pov? So disingenous.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 13, 2016, 12:28:28 PM
Consider that anyone jazzed about owning an AR-15 is mentally ill?
Interesting if true.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 13, 2016, 12:29:38 PM
And the libtards think governments involvement would have prevented this. I mean, that's just as insane as blaming the nra or the inanimate object for the problem, and other stuff they say and do, so I'm not surprised, but, please, tone down the crazy.
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2016, 12:33:48 PM
Consider that anyone jazzed about owning an AR-15 is mentally ill?
Interesting if true.
:lol:
Zombies aren't real either. Y'all won't need that thing. Sell it and get like 3 more hoverboards.
Post by: renocat on June 13, 2016, 12:58:50 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 01:01:50 PM
ps FSD it seems Wacks is coming for you
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2016, 01:04:07 PM
Trump. On Orlando terror act.sounds like a babbling idiot. He is hinting Obama is behind this attack. This has way past the Renocat threshold. I give WUD an F grade on his response.
imagine how much he'll appreciate the congrats on being right for that tho
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 01:05:50 PM
This country as a whole is the most 'lax it's been on common day subjects than it's ever been. It's been good for some matters. If you can't see that, then you're rough ridin' blind.
Speaking of tap outs, can we get back to the shift from "most laxest immigration policy" to "most laxest on common day subjects like ever" for a moment?
I am still fascinated and perplexed as to what this means and which matters it's been good for.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 13, 2016, 01:07:51 PM
This country as a whole is the most 'lax it's been on common day subjects than it's ever been. It's been good for some matters. If you can't see that, then you're rough ridin' blind.
Speaking of tap outs, can we get back to the shift from "most laxest immigration policy" to "most laxest on common day subjects live ever" for a moment?
I am still fascinated and perplexed as to what this means and which matters it's been good for.
Why is this even worth pursuing? It's not entertaining or educational. It's disruptive to the thread and boring.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 01:13:19 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2016, 01:14:04 PM
That dude was sought out 2 times by the FBI and we never did anything about it. Because ppl are scared to press real issues. This is embarrassing.
What should we have done about it?
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 01:18:40 PM
This country as a whole is the most 'lax it's been on common day subjects than it's ever been. It's been good for some matters. If you can't see that, then you're rough ridin' blind.
Speaking of tap outs, can we get back to the shift from "most laxest immigration policy" to "most laxest on common day subjects live ever" for a moment?
I am still fascinated and perplexed as to what this means and which matters it's been good for.
Why is this even worth pursuing? It's not entertaining or educational. It's disruptive to the thread and boring.
Fair enough. After learning that history was totes his jam I was hoping for a measure of historical analysis and enlightenment. If you are suggesting that neither are possible I would probably have to agree.
Post by: LickNeckey on June 13, 2016, 01:19:51 PM
That dude was sought out 2 times by the FBI and we never did anything about it. Because ppl are scared to press real issues. This is embarrassing.
What should we have done about it?
Put him on a list banning him from gun purchases?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2016, 01:22:26 PM
That dude was sought out 2 times by the FBI and we never did anything about it. Because ppl are scared to press real issues. This is embarrassing.
What should we have done about it?
Put him on a list banning him from gun purchases?
Maybe after we repeal the second amendment.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 01:25:59 PM
You really shouldn't take yourself so seriously. It's depressing how much you care about what another individual thinks. :frown:This country as a whole is the most 'lax it's been on common day subjects than it's ever been. It's been good for some matters. If you can't see that, then you're rough ridin' blind.
Speaking of tap outs, can we get back to the shift from "most laxest immigration policy" to "most laxest on common day subjects live ever" for a moment?
I am still fascinated and perplexed as to what this means and which matters it's been good for.
Why is this even worth pursuing? It's not entertaining or educational. It's disruptive to the thread and boring.
Fair enough. After learning that history was totes his jam I was hoping for a measure of historical analysis and enlightenment. If you are suggesting that neither are possible I would probably have to agree.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 01:31:55 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 01:35:25 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2016, 01:47:08 PM
This country as a whole is the most 'lax it's been on common day subjects than it's ever been. It's been good for some matters. If you can't see that, then you're rough ridin' blind.
Speaking of tap outs, can we get back to the shift from "most laxest immigration policy" to "most laxest on common day subjects live ever" for a moment?
I am still fascinated and perplexed as to what this means and which matters it's been good for.
Why is this even worth pursuing? It's not entertaining or educational. It's disruptive to the thread and boring.
I think you have it backwards
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2016, 01:50:31 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
Post by: slobber on June 13, 2016, 01:53:39 PM
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 01:55:40 PM
Liberals love terrorists!Spread the word to everyone you know! #SaveALife
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2016, 01:56:20 PM
That dude was sought out 2 times by the FBI and we never did anything about it. Because ppl are scared to press real issues. This is embarrassing.
What should we have done about it?
Put him on a list banning him from gun purchases?
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
Post by: steve dave on June 13, 2016, 01:56:37 PM
Post by: XocolateThundarr on June 13, 2016, 01:56:55 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2016, 01:59:40 PM
lib, you posted multiple times after that post so I did it for you
Vigilance is a group task
Post by: stunted on June 13, 2016, 02:36:59 PM
I've never been held at gun point by a white person, but guess what? I have by a black person. It kinda made me a little bit racist. I've never seen a guy get his jaw broke in by a white person at martini corner, but guess what, I saw a bunch of black men do it to a white person there. Guess what, two guys in my wedding are black, am I a super racist? No, but yeah, I have weird thoughts from time to time if i'm safe in alley at night.
in 2015, there were ~350 mass shootings in this country. so far this year, there have been 133. only 3 of those (Chattanooga, San Bernadino and now Orlando) have been linked to radical islam. So while radical islam is a problem, it's a very, very, very tiny part of a major epidemic.
There are over 100 million gun owners in this country and 99.9%+ of them have managed to own guns without "mass shooting" people.
Also, lol at libtards redifining "mass shooting" to rope in regular homicides (largely drug related) with these unmotivated random acts of violence. Do you really need to inflate the numbers to air your gestapo pov? So disingenous.
I looked at sample of 50 mass shootings from beginning of 2016. Of perpetrators that could be determined:
34 Black (BLACKLIVESMATTER)
7 Hispanic
4 White (2 family killings)
2 Samoan
1 Asian (family killing)
Doesn't make you racist wacky.
Most the shootings were in bad areas/gang involvement. In terms of random mass nonghetto public shooting or violence (which is very rare), crazies and Muslims dominate. There's almost no chance to get shot if you're smart where you go, and don't have crazy family members.
Post by: treysolid on June 13, 2016, 02:46:24 PM
in 2015, there were ~350 mass shootings in this country. so far this year, there have been 133. only 3 of those (Chattanooga, San Bernadino and now Orlando) have been linked to radical islam. So while radical islam is a problem, it's a very, very, very tiny part of a major epidemic.
There are over 100 million gun owners in this country and 99.9%+ of them have managed to own guns without "mass shooting" people.
Also, lol at libtards redifining "mass shooting" to rope in regular homicides (largely drug related) with these unmotivated random acts of violence. Do you really need to inflate the numbers to air your gestapo pov? So disingenous.
In the numbers I gave, "mass shooting" refers to an incident with 4 or more victims and doesn't count gang-related activity.
You do realize that your "you can't treat a whole group of people a certain way just because a small percentage of them do something bad" argument also applies to equally to muslims, right?
Post by: stunted on June 13, 2016, 02:52:05 PM
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but most do hate gay people.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 13, 2016, 03:00:26 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 13, 2016, 03:41:38 PM
in 2015, there were ~350 mass shootings in this country. so far this year, there have been 133. only 3 of those (Chattanooga, San Bernadino and now Orlando) have been linked to radical islam. So while radical islam is a problem, it's a very, very, very tiny part of a major epidemic.
There are over 100 million gun owners in this country and 99.9%+ of them have managed to own guns without "mass shooting" people.
Also, lol at libtards redifining "mass shooting" to rope in regular homicides (largely drug related) with these unmotivated random acts of violence. Do you really need to inflate the numbers to air your gestapo pov? So disingenous.
In the numbers I gave, "mass shooting" refers to an incident with 4 or more victims and doesn't count gang-related activity.
You do realize that your "you can't treat a whole group of people a certain way just because a small percentage of them do something bad" argument also applies to equally to muslims, right?
1. You don't find that definition of "mass shooting" to be deliberately disingenuous in the context of an unmotivated mass execution of people? Really, you are a-OK with using a definition tailored to match the leftist rhetoric? Which, I suppose, is what WC08 has identified as a problem with B.O. and the leftists. The going out of the way to marginalize and apologize for radical Islam (extreme minority), and compare it as no different than christian religions (overwhelming majority). Which is extreme bullshit.
2. Why would Muslims be treated differently? Don't you know your 1st amendment?
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2016, 04:14:39 PM
Post by: pvegs on June 13, 2016, 05:07:27 PM
I've never been held at gun point by a white person, but guess what? I have by a black person. It kinda made me a little bit racist. I've never seen a guy get his jaw broke in by a white person at martini corner, but guess what, I saw a bunch of black men do it to a white person there. Guess what, two guys in my wedding are black, am I a super racist? No, but yeah, I have weird thoughts from time to time if i'm safe in alley at night.in 2015, there were ~350 mass shootings in this country. so far this year, there have been 133. only 3 of those (Chattanooga, San Bernadino and now Orlando) have been linked to radical islam. So while radical islam is a problem, it's a very, very, very tiny part of a major epidemic.
There are over 100 million gun owners in this country and 99.9%+ of them have managed to own guns without "mass shooting" people.
Also, lol at libtards redifining "mass shooting" to rope in regular homicides (largely drug related) with these unmotivated random acts of violence. Do you really need to inflate the numbers to air your gestapo pov? So disingenous.
I looked at sample of 50 mass shootings from beginning of 2016. Of perpetrators that could be determined:
34 Black (BLACKLIVESMATTER)
7 Hispanic
4 White (2 family killings)
2 Samoan
1 Asian (family killing)
Doesn't make you racist wacky.
Most the shootings were in bad areas/gang involvement. In terms of random mass nonghetto public shooting or violence (which is very rare), crazies and Muslims dominate. There's almost no chance to get shot if you're smart where you go, and don't have crazy family members.
So that would not include gay bars during Pride, I assume? The gays got what's coming to them. Cool, dude.
Post by: stunted on June 13, 2016, 05:17:09 PM
But maybe not so rare with more gay-hating Muslims being imported!
Post by: stunted on June 13, 2016, 05:19:13 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2016, 05:32:04 PM
http://nypost.com/2016/06/13/orlando-killer-cheered-911-attacks-former-classmates-say/
Yeah, he was an bad person.
Post by: Cartierfor3 on June 13, 2016, 06:08:37 PM
Post by: chum1 on June 13, 2016, 06:36:10 PM
Quote
But according to witnesses, Mateen was also a regular at the club and exchanged messages with at least one gay man on a gay dating app.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316
Post by: pvegs on June 13, 2016, 06:44:09 PM
QuoteBut according to witnesses, Mateen was also a regular at the club and exchanged messages with at least one gay man on a gay dating app.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316
The comments section on that article is p. lit. I wish we could trade most of the commenters in this thread for some of them.
Post by: wetwillie on June 13, 2016, 06:53:18 PM
QuoteBut according to witnesses, Mateen was also a regular at the club and exchanged messages with at least one gay man on a gay dating app.
http://gawker.com/orlando-shooter-was-reportedly-a-regular-at-pulse-and-h-1781920316
well that makes me sad.
Post by: renocat on June 14, 2016, 05:09:02 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 14, 2016, 07:28:41 AM
Post by: renocat on June 14, 2016, 07:35:02 AM
Many wild animals leave a big pile of crap to mark their territory. As I feared, everyone is crapping on the corpses of the dead to mark their political territory. I think democrats are leaving the biggest and smelliest FT loaves on the dead. Yesterday, Paul Ryan ask for a moment of silence and the democrats started hollering for gun control and old Clyburn went ibto a spastic fit about it. Wosre some old HMT HMW Obamunnist gal from Planned Hamburger claimed this was caused by toxic masculinity. Sheesh. Let's morn then act like Governor Hayley did.Obama.pissee on Florida. He has not called the Governor to offer condolences. Governor is republican. We.don't hwve a president.
Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2016, 07:50:22 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2016, 09:43:04 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 11:24:32 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 14, 2016, 11:28:08 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2016, 11:29:48 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 11:30:39 AM
Draconian police state, that's the only thing that can save us.
This is definitely what the right wing media is pushing
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 11:33:11 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 11:37:49 AM
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 11:42:15 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 11:42:39 AM
Color me shocked that known partisan right wing wacko dax has no problem with that. Trump 2016!!!
Post by: chuckjames on June 14, 2016, 11:45:12 AM
The irony of the worlds largest arms dealer, the United States Government, wanting to ban guns in the United States. How many millions of knock off AK's has the US pumped into the hands of Muslim extremists around the world?
Dax, I must admit you stay on your topic, interventionism, better than professional politicians. It's quite impressive. #Dax2020
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 11:50:35 AM
So no mention from dax of the republican favored draconian police state involved in rounding up and imprisoning american citizens that have committed no crimes?
Color me shocked that known partisan right wing wacko dax has no problem with that. Trump 2016!!!
As opposed to the expressed, implemented and executed policy of the current administration of assassinating American citizens, while pushing for a policy of indefinite detention of American citizens.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 11:55:05 AM
Maybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.
Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 11:56:31 AM
Sad. . . . Really
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 11:58:06 AM
Rounding up and imprisoning american citizens is bad. . . . Unless a republican proposes it. Trump 2016!!!
Sad. . . . Really
When did Trump say round up American Citizens? Lib?? I thought it was illegal aliens.
Get angered up LIB!!
Post by: wetwillie on June 14, 2016, 11:59:30 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 11:59:50 AM
A real Kool Aid drinker that Lib7.
Sad.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 12:00:22 PM
Maybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.
Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too.
Like????
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 12:00:52 PM
Lib is so indoctrinated he doesn't even know the policies of the ProgLib jackboots in charge.
A real Kool Aid drinker that Lib7.
Sad.
#flailing
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 12:02:25 PM
Sad
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 12:02:38 PM
One thing I'm certain of is now is not the time to do anything
Of course not, you have to wait an appropriate amount of time before you can do anything
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 12:03:16 PM
We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 12:05:39 PM
Partisan Lib7, doesn't even know what his heroes are really doing.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 12:12:36 PM
That's leadership!
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 12:13:30 PM
Maybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.
Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too.
Like????
Increase in violent crime, for example (DC, Chicago, etc).
Post by: chuckjames on June 14, 2016, 12:20:24 PM
A president that gets on stage and blames law abiding American citizens for Islamic terrorism and refuses to call it what it is.
That's leadership!
I honestly don't understand the right's obsession with calling it Islamic terror. Would it all the sudden stop if he called it Islamic terror?
A white guy does it, oh it's just a crazy. A brown guy does it, TERRIORISM. WHY WONT OBUMMER LEAD!!!
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 12:23:09 PM
Post by: stunted on June 14, 2016, 12:23:23 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 12:23:30 PM
:ksu:A president that gets on stage and blames law abiding American citizens for Islamic terrorism and refuses to call it what it is.
That's leadership!
I honestly don't understand the right's obsession with calling it Islamic terror. Would it all the sudden stop if he called it Islamic terror?
When the president basically blames everyone else but the Islamic terrorist? There's going to be an obsession.
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 12:24:11 PM
Stand with Trim.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 12:25:08 PM
#explain it some more dax, and set another TRUMP 2016 sign in the yard. You're making America great again!!!
Your failure to understand the actual implemented policies of your heroes is no reason to get mad at me.
Post by: chuckjames on June 14, 2016, 12:29:34 PM
:ksu:A president that gets on stage and blames law abiding American citizens for Islamic terrorism and refuses to call it what it is.
That's leadership!
I honestly don't understand the right's obsession with calling it Islamic terror. Would it all the sudden stop if he called it Islamic terror?
When the president basically blames everyone else but the Islamic terrorist? There's going to be an obsession.
So what should he have called the Roof/Oregon shootings are those acts of terror too?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 12:31:06 PM
:ksu:A president that gets on stage and blames law abiding American citizens for Islamic terrorism and refuses to call it what it is.
That's leadership!
I honestly don't understand the right's obsession with calling it Islamic terror. Would it all the sudden stop if he called it Islamic terror?
When the president basically blames everyone else but the Islamic terrorist? There's going to be an obsession.
So what should he have called the Roof/Oregon shootings are those acts of terror too?
Sure.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 12:31:33 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 12:33:55 PM
Post by: chuckjames on June 14, 2016, 12:36:26 PM
:ksu:A president that gets on stage and blames law abiding American citizens for Islamic terrorism and refuses to call it what it is.
That's leadership!
I honestly don't understand the right's obsession with calling it Islamic terror. Would it all the sudden stop if he called it Islamic terror?
When the president basically blames everyone else but the Islamic terrorist? There's going to be an obsession.
So what should he have called the Roof/Oregon shootings are those acts of terror too?
Sure.
So why weren't you leading the charge to make sure Obama called those acts of terror?
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 12:36:55 PM
Trump promising to bomb the "crap" out of brown people is better than viagra for our old buddy Trumpax 2016!!! #makeamericagreatagain
"Don't need YouJizz, just turn on a YouTube of another U.S. Drone Strike approved by a secret court (Barrack's Star Chamber) and my hero, Barrack Obama, hopefully they killed a bunch of innocent people whose only crime was being in the area. Love watching death by Hellfire." . . . Lib7 :surprised:
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 12:39:52 PM
Trump promising to bomb the "crap" out of brown people is better than viagra for our old buddy Trumpax 2016!!! #makeamericagreatagain
"Don't need YouJizz, just turn on a YouTube of another U.S. Drone Strike approved by a secret court and my hero, Barrack Obama, hopefully they killed a bunch of innocent people whose only crime was being in the area. Love watching death by Hellfire." . . . Lib7 :surprised:
Trump will bomb brown people so good your head will spin. It will be the biggest, most classy bombing you've ever seen, believe me. You're gonna love it. TRUMP 2016!!!
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 12:42:15 PM
Trump promising to bomb the "crap" out of brown people is better than viagra for our old buddy Trumpax 2016!!! #makeamericagreatagain
"Don't need YouJizz, just turn on a YouTube of another U.S. Drone Strike approved by a secret court and my hero, Barrack Obama, hopefully they killed a bunch of innocent people whose only crime was being in the area. Love watching death by Hellfire." . . . Lib7 :surprised:
Trump will bomb brown people so good your head will spin. It will be the biggest, most classy bombing you've ever seen, believe me. You're gonna love it. TRUMP 2016!!!
"I really prefer the GPS guided weapons when Barrack kills brown people, they never see it coming, and it's, fantastic!! Hopefully Barrack will do another slow riff with Fallon, again, with the weapons footage playing in the background" Lib7
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 12:43:51 PM
:ksu:A president that gets on stage and blames law abiding American citizens for Islamic terrorism and refuses to call it what it is.
That's leadership!
I honestly don't understand the right's obsession with calling it Islamic terror. Would it all the sudden stop if he called it Islamic terror?
When the president basically blames everyone else but the Islamic terrorist? There's going to be an obsession.
So what should he have called the Roof/Oregon shootings are those acts of terror too?
Sure.
So why weren't you leading the charge to make sure Obama called those acts of terror?
I'm just a guilty and complicit law abiding U.S. citizen Chuck, come on!
Post by: wetwillie on June 14, 2016, 12:54:45 PM
We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Not nearly long enough
Post by: chuckjames on June 14, 2016, 12:55:39 PM
:ksu:A president that gets on stage and blames law abiding American citizens for Islamic terrorism and refuses to call it what it is.
That's leadership!
I honestly don't understand the right's obsession with calling it Islamic terror. Would it all the sudden stop if he called it Islamic terror?
When the president basically blames everyone else but the Islamic terrorist? There's going to be an obsession.
So what should he have called the Roof/Oregon shootings are those acts of terror too?
Sure.
So why weren't you leading the charge to make sure Obama called those acts of terror?
I'm just a guilty and complicit law abiding U.S. citizen Chuck, come on!
Why won't Obummer LEAD?
Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2016, 12:55:53 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 01:04:26 PM
lib :lol:
agreed, dude is a :lol: mix of anger and stupidity
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 14, 2016, 01:07:39 PM
So no mention from dax of the republican favored draconian police state involved in rounding up and imprisoning american citizens that have committed no crimes?
Color me shocked that known partisan right wing wacko dax has no problem with that. Trump 2016!!!
Like what neo-socialist hero FDR did?
Lol, lib7 is one of those guys who thinks trump wants to reinstate slavery. So brainwashed
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 01:13:35 PM
So no mention from dax of the republican favored draconian police state involved in rounding up and imprisoning american citizens that have committed no crimes?
Color me shocked that known partisan right wing wacko dax has no problem with that. Trump 2016!!!
Like what neo-socialist hero FDR did?
Lol, lib7 is one of those guys who thinks trump wants to reinstate slavery. So brainwashed
Even worse, more of putting campaign rhetoric (exaggerated by the Lib7 the resident lib Jackboot as always) on the same level, even superseding actual policy being carried forth by the current administration. That's a Jim Jones level of Kool-Aid drinking, that's full indoctrination and hyper-partisanship on display. How . . . sad #smdh
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 14, 2016, 01:15:29 PM
Apparently neo-socialists like lib7 and 'teve 'ave are okay with sweeping reactionary policy when events are triggered by a single deranged psychopath, but not in response to the most orchestrated foreign attack on American soil since the Revolutionary War.
Being a libtard must be a dreadfully sad and stupid existence.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 14, 2016, 01:18:52 PM
So no mention from dax of the republican favored draconian police state involved in rounding up and imprisoning american citizens that have committed no crimes?
Color me shocked that known partisan right wing wacko dax has no problem with that. Trump 2016!!!
Like what neo-socialist hero FDR did?
Lol, lib7 is one of those guys who thinks trump wants to reinstate slavery. So brainwashed
Even worse, more of putting campaign rhetoric (exaggerated by the Lib7 the resident lib Jackboot as always) on the same level, even superseding actual policy being carried forth by the current administration. That's a Jim Jones level of Kool-Aid drinking, that's full indoctrination and hyper-partisanship on display. How . . . sad #smdh
Lib7 is a moron, incapable of cognition, and who doesn't know what the eff is going on ever. He is the target demographic (victim) of media matters, think progress and Tom the bug cartoons.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 14, 2016, 01:42:12 PM
You've got an ISIS terrorist, LGBT community, a mass shooting and thoughts and prayers.
Wow.... Just drink it in..
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 14, 2016, 01:50:16 PM
His wife knew too and helped him drive around casing places.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 14, 2016, 01:59:55 PM
this is a terrible situation but talk about the ultimate melting pot for discussion..Yes everyone is mad as hell and about to elect a president who will take office with 70% disapproval.
You've got an ISIS terrorist, LGBT community, a mass shooting and thoughts and prayers.
Wow.... Just drink it in..
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 03:49:06 PM
how long should it beWe need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Not nearly long enough
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 03:57:03 PM
how long should it beWe need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Not nearly long enough
Well considering this dude was a sicko on 9/11, at least 15 years.
Post by: chuckjames on June 14, 2016, 04:03:42 PM
how long should it beWe need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Not nearly long enough
The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 04:08:13 PM
seems like a reasonable opinionhow long should it beWe need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Not nearly long enough
The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.
Post by: wetwillie on June 14, 2016, 04:08:21 PM
how long should it beWe need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Not nearly long enough
1 year
Post by: chuckjames on June 14, 2016, 04:09:33 PM
seems like a reasonable opinionhow long should it beWe need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Not nearly long enough
The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.
I honestly don't know. I just know this crazy was able to buy a gun in the same week he killed 50 people and injured another 50 so that's not ideal.
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 04:11:23 PM
I don't know either. I think what this guy did was disgusting and horrible. But I also understand that his right to buy the tool used to carry out the massacre is constitutionally guaranteed. It's a sticky wicket, those civil liberties.seems like a reasonable opinionhow long should it beWe need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Not nearly long enough
The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.
I honestly don't know. I just know this crazy was able to buy a gun in the same week he killed 50 people and injured another 50 so that's not ideal.
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 04:15:35 PM
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 04:16:22 PM
Should the constitution still be a thing in 2016?there's some good stuff in there imo
Post by: chuckjames on June 14, 2016, 04:16:56 PM
I don't know either. I think what this guy did was disgusting and horrible. But I also understand that his right to buy the tool used to carry out the massacre is constitutionally guaranteed. It's a sticky wicket, those civil liberties.seems like a reasonable opinionhow long should it beWe need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun. Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.Isn't there a waiting period already?
Not nearly long enough
The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.
I honestly don't know. I just know this crazy was able to buy a gun in the same week he killed 50 people and injured another 50 so that's not ideal.
Just wondering, would you consider yourself an organalist? Like where on the Supreme Court spectrum do you think you fall?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 14, 2016, 04:18:23 PM
Post by: michigancat on June 14, 2016, 04:21:53 PM
Should the constitution still be a thing in 2016?there's some good stuff in there imo
it could still probably use a refresh. And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 04:25:36 PM
Should the constitution still be a thing in 2016?there's some good stuff in there imo
Sure. But it's def time for a reboot. That would be a nice thing to break out by 2026 to celebrate 250 years of usa.
Post by: Tobias on June 14, 2016, 04:27:14 PM
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 04:27:32 PM
Just wondering, would you consider yourself an organalist? Like where on the Supreme Court spectrum do you think you fall?I don't really consider myself any kind of constitutional interpreter. I'm mostly just interested in figuring out what the Court says our rights are. And if the Court says that we have a right, then I think we have that right, and I don't really blame people for fighting to defend rights they care about.
For instance, i'm pretty pro-life, but the Court says there's a right to abortion, so, until that changes, I recognize that people have that right and I don't blame them for fighting to defend it. Same with guns.
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 04:28:19 PM
And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.
Yes, I like this.
I hated con law.
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 04:29:20 PM
Me too. But First Amendment and crimpro classes made me think that the constitution is pretty groovy in some respects.And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.
Yes, I like this.
I hated con law.
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 14, 2016, 04:29:46 PM
Something along the lines of there are two reasons to own an assault rifle.
Reason 1) take it every so often to a firing range to shoot targets and get horny (this made laugh) off of the smoke and fire that comes out of it while hollering loudly at its performance.
Reason 2) to kill
My feelings are guns need to be regulated. I also respect gun owners and their rights to own firearms. I don't understand why some gun activists get upset over the thought of restrictions on certain weapons.
I'm probably pretty ignorant and there are great needs that make total sense for Joe Somebody to have the ability to purchase an assault rifle. I just haven't had it explained to me other than "its my right as an American citizen" or some junk like that.
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 04:31:49 PM
Me too. But First Amendment and crimpro classes made me think that the constitution is pretty groovy in some respects.And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.
Yes, I like this.
I hated con law.
Some. Now we can make it really good. My takeaway from those classes was that the decision-maker is going to do whatever they want and anything can be justified by spinning the constitution enough.
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 04:33:32 PM
That's why we only accept the best and brightest for our highest court!Me too. But First Amendment and crimpro classes made me think that the constitution is pretty groovy in some respects.And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.
Yes, I like this.
I hated con law.
Some. Now we can make it really good. My takeaway from those classes was that the decision-maker is going to do whatever they want and anything can be justified by spinning the constitution enough.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2016, 04:36:56 PM
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 04:37:10 PM
That's why we only accept the best and brightest for our highest court!Me too. But First Amendment and crimpro classes made me think that the constitution is pretty groovy in some respects.And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.
Yes, I like this.
I hated con law.
Some. Now we can make it really good. My takeaway from those classes was that the decision-maker is going to do whatever they want and anything can be justified by spinning the constitution enough.
They can contribute to the creation of Constitution 2.0 - the one in which "arms" doesn't refer to muskets.
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 04:38:03 PM
Smells like infringement in here
As the real The Manhatter once said, "Sniff, sniff..."
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 04:38:36 PM
I'll trade you the right to bear arms for the reproductive rights right here right now straight up. Do we have a deal?That's why we only accept the best and brightest for our highest court!Me too. But First Amendment and crimpro classes made me think that the constitution is pretty groovy in some respects.And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.
Yes, I like this.
I hated con law.
Some. Now we can make it really good. My takeaway from those classes was that the decision-maker is going to do whatever they want and anything can be justified by spinning the constitution enough.
They can contribute to the creation of Constitution 2.0 - the one in which "arms" doesn't refer to muskets.
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 04:41:17 PM
I'll trade you the right to bear arms for the reproductive rights right here right now straight up. Do we have a deal?That's why we only accept the best and brightest for our highest court!Me too. But First Amendment and crimpro classes made me think that the constitution is pretty groovy in some respects.And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.
Yes, I like this.
I hated con law.
Some. Now we can make it really good. My takeaway from those classes was that the decision-maker is going to do whatever they want and anything can be justified by spinning the constitution enough.
They can contribute to the creation of Constitution 2.0 - the one in which "arms" doesn't refer to muskets.
No way. I'm a man of the people. I gotta check with my constituency (the whole world of america) as to what they want for each thing.
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2016, 04:42:03 PM
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 14, 2016, 05:44:24 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on June 14, 2016, 06:20:05 PM
Should the constitution still be a thing in 2016?there's some good stuff in there imo
Sure. But it's def time for a reboot. That would be a nice thing to break out by 2026 to celebrate 250 years of usa.
In 2.0, let's not set the expectation that we're forming a more perfect Union...maybe a "better than average" would do? Also who will we be counting as 3/5ths of a person in 2.0?
Post by: 8manpick on June 14, 2016, 06:36:33 PM
Well that would be worse all aroundI'll trade you the right to bear arms for the reproductive rights right here right now straight up. Do we have a deal?That's why we only accept the best and brightest for our highest court!Me too. But First Amendment and crimpro classes made me think that the constitution is pretty groovy in some respects.And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.
Yes, I like this.
I hated con law.
Some. Now we can make it really good. My takeaway from those classes was that the decision-maker is going to do whatever they want and anything can be justified by spinning the constitution enough.
They can contribute to the creation of Constitution 2.0 - the one in which "arms" doesn't refer to muskets.
Post by: treysolid on June 14, 2016, 08:37:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRQzTP8H1o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpRQzTP8H1o)
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 14, 2016, 08:42:06 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 14, 2016, 09:12:07 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 14, 2016, 10:12:02 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 14, 2016, 10:23:06 PM
Post by: Missouriscribe on June 14, 2016, 10:50:25 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 10:53:21 PM
I saw a quote on FB from someone famous (I think). They made it into a meme but it made a lot of sense to me.
Something along the lines of there are two reasons to own an assault rifle.
Reason 1) take it every so often to a firing range to shoot targets and get horny (this made laugh) off of the smoke and fire that comes out of it while hollering loudly at its performance.
Reason 2) to kill
My feelings are guns need to be regulated. I also respect gun owners and their rights to own firearms. I don't understand why some gun activists get upset over the thought of restrictions on certain weapons.
I'm probably pretty ignorant and there are great needs that make total sense for Joe Somebody to have the ability to purchase an assault rifle. I just haven't had it explained to me other than "its my right as an American citizen" or some junk like that.
This is correct.
Post by: bucket on June 14, 2016, 11:16:33 PM
I saw a quote on FB from someone famous (I think). They made it into a meme but it made a lot of sense to me.
Something along the lines of there are two reasons to own an assault rifle.
Reason 1) take it every so often to a firing range to shoot targets and get horny (this made laugh) off of the smoke and fire that comes out of it while hollering loudly at its performance.
Reason 2) to kill
My feelings are guns need to be regulated. I also respect gun owners and their rights to own firearms. I don't understand why some gun activists get upset over the thought of restrictions on certain weapons.
I'm probably pretty ignorant and there are great needs that make total sense for Joe Somebody to have the ability to purchase an assault rifle. I just haven't had it explained to me other than "its my right as an American citizen" or some junk like that.
This is correct.
So can you offer an explanation other than the only one he's heard to this point?
Post by: Tobias on June 14, 2016, 11:44:15 PM
Smells like infringement in here
Post by: Trim on June 14, 2016, 11:48:37 PM
Post by: slobber on June 15, 2016, 05:42:54 AM
What if I promise to keep the word "infringed" somewhere in v2.0? It might not be in the gun part, but somewhere that it can still be quoted in the pit?Like the baby's rights shall not be infringed.
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Post by: Phil Titola on June 15, 2016, 07:28:33 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 15, 2016, 07:44:41 AM
I saw a quote on FB from someone famous (I think). They made it into a meme but it made a lot of sense to me.
Something along the lines of there are two reasons to own an assault rifle.
Reason 1) take it every so often to a firing range to shoot targets and get horny (this made laugh) off of the smoke and fire that comes out of it while hollering loudly at its performance.
Reason 2) to kill
My feelings are guns need to be regulated. I also respect gun owners and their rights to own firearms. I don't understand why some gun activists get upset over the thought of restrictions on certain weapons.
I'm probably pretty ignorant and there are great needs that make total sense for Joe Somebody to have the ability to purchase an assault rifle. I just haven't had it explained to me other than "its my right as an American citizen" or some junk like that.
This is correct.
So can you offer an explanation other than the only one he's heard to this point?
Yes. Will it be heard or considered thoughtfully? Probably not.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 07:46:18 AM
on a long enough timeline, all of the NRAtards will have to start hand reloading ever-y-thing if they want a murderdeathkillexplosionboner.
Post by: SdK on June 15, 2016, 07:51:13 AM
Post by: Tobias on June 15, 2016, 07:52:18 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 15, 2016, 07:59:39 AM
We already have a vehicle to change the Constitution. Just because not everyone thinks like you doesn't mean you get pissed off and rip up the whole thing and try to start over.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 08:04:04 AM
bullets/components = arms
We already have a vehicle to change the Constitution. Just because not everyone thinks like you doesn't mean you get pissed off and rip up the whole thing and try to start over.
i just get a bunch of pictures of jacked bi's and tri's when i google "arms" :dunno:
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 08:06:33 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2016, 08:07:08 AM
hold on, I'll find it
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 08:09:26 AM
on this topic a redneck from my hometown was going nuts on facebook because the MEDIA kept calling magazines clips or vice versa. I don't know the difference but he did and boy howdy was he not having any of their not knowing about gun stuff bullshit.
i usually get the "this is an assault rifle" "this is not an assault rifle" redneckplanation on mine, but have seen the magazine/clip neckplanation before, as well. they are both highly entertaining to me.
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2016, 08:12:15 AM
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Post by: Tobias on June 15, 2016, 08:14:07 AM
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2016, 08:25:35 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2016, 08:28:18 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 08:35:17 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 15, 2016, 08:36:16 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on June 15, 2016, 08:36:41 AM
I saw a quote on FB from someone famous (I think). They made it into a meme but it made a lot of sense to me.
Something along the lines of there are two reasons to own an assault rifle.
Reason 1) take it every so often to a firing range to shoot targets and get horny (this made laugh) off of the smoke and fire that comes out of it while hollering loudly at its performance.
Reason 2) to kill
My feelings are guns need to be regulated. I also respect gun owners and their rights to own firearms. I don't understand why some gun activists get upset over the thought of restrictions on certain weapons.
I'm probably pretty ignorant and there are great needs that make total sense for Joe Somebody to have the ability to purchase an assault rifle. I just haven't had it explained to me other than "its my right as an American citizen" or some junk like that.
This is correct.
So can you offer an explanation other than the only one he's heard to this point?
Yes. Will it be heard or considered thoughtfully? Probably not.
Can't speak to others on this board, but I ask questions to learn and to consider all views before making my own decision. I welcome your explanation with open arms (no pun). When brought up in convo at work or wherever, I enjoy talking both sides.
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2016, 08:37:44 AM
16 goals?
Too 19th century.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 08:39:32 AM
16 goals?
Too 19th century.
USA 2025?
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2016, 08:42:30 AM
on this topic a redneck from my hometown was going nuts on facebook because the MEDIA kept calling magazines clips or vice versa. I don't know the difference but he did and boy howdy was he not having any of their not knowing about gun stuff bullshit.
hold on, I'll find it
I've heard this discussion in my living room.
Post by: puniraptor on June 15, 2016, 08:43:15 AM
Prep for an avalanche of "it wasn't even an AR-15"on this topic a redneck from my hometown was going nuts on facebook because the MEDIA kept calling magazines clips or vice versa. I don't know the difference but he did and boy howdy was he not having any of their not knowing about gun stuff bullshit.
i usually get the "this is an assault rifle" "this is not an assault rifle" redneckplanation on mine, but have seen the magazine/clip neckplanation before, as well. they are both highly entertaining to me.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 15, 2016, 08:44:58 AM
on this topic a redneck from my hometown was going nuts on facebook because the MEDIA kept calling magazines clips or vice versa. I don't know the difference but he did and boy howdy was he not having any of their not knowing about gun stuff bullshit.
hold on, I'll find it
I've heard this discussion in my living room.
Maybe Mr gooch could debate oscar on gun control at ff16
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 15, 2016, 08:47:21 AM
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I don't think this guy realizes the implication of using word "then"
Post by: puniraptor on June 15, 2016, 08:53:35 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2016, 09:15:53 AM
How do we get Wacky to stop posting? I'll come back then.No one ever knew you were gone, to be fair.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 15, 2016, 09:51:53 AM
All this because you're scared of guns??? No, I think the gun thing is subterfuge for the neo-socialist neo-fascist police state the libtards yearn for. SMH
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2016, 10:01:00 AM
Post by: SdK on June 15, 2016, 10:04:25 AM
Touche :)How do we get Wacky to stop posting? I'll come back then.No one ever knew you were gone, to be fair.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2016, 10:18:41 AM
Post by: SdK on June 15, 2016, 10:32:29 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 15, 2016, 10:56:41 AM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 11:01:13 AM
Reconstituting the government every 25 years might be the most retardiest thing ever posted in the pit. Very Central America-y. You know how to ensure frequent coup d'etat? Create a government so unstable that it has to be recreated 4 times every century.
All this because you're scared of guns??? No, I think the gun thing is subterfuge for the neo-socialist neo-fascist police state the libtards yearn for. SMH
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/9WBMpUK3sKiW90nkMwEbOI2Dm8DOffaUHrVE-uiRZP0MByFKWJMFTSW0DYCLW9KG2eJBCWAQ5g)
Post by: Phil Titola on June 15, 2016, 11:02:28 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2016, 11:12:43 AM
on this topic a redneck from my hometown was going nuts on facebook because the MEDIA kept calling magazines clips or vice versa. I don't know the difference but he did and boy howdy was he not having any of their not knowing about gun stuff bullshit.
hold on, I'll find it
Similarly, this got shared on my feed:
http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/06/14/fact-check-ar-15-wasnt-used-orlando-wouldnt-mattered-anyway/
Quote
Despite attempts by politicians and the media to claim that the common, kid-friendly AR-15 is a “weapon of war,” or “military-style,” actual military rifles have been banned from manufacture for civilian purchase for exactly 30 years.
Also:
Quote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0tGXXLTzFc
It’s not particularly scary, is it?
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 11:13:09 AM
2.0 should be written via Facebook meme
all text outside of pictures limited to 140 characters, too.
Post by: Fedor on June 15, 2016, 01:28:34 PM
Should be all emoji's.2.0 should be written via Facebook meme
all text outside of pictures limited to 140 characters, too.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 01:33:10 PM
Should be all emoji's.2.0 should be written via Facebook meme
all text outside of pictures limited to 140 characters, too.
good luck to the supreme court justices who have to interpret that mess.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2016, 01:34:00 PM
Should be all emoji's.2.0 should be written via Facebook meme
all text outside of pictures limited to 140 characters, too.
good luck to the supreme court justices who have to interpret that mess.
That's why we put our best and brightest there.
Post by: Fedor on June 15, 2016, 02:18:21 PM
SCOTUS would issue court decisions with either a (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fcache%2F42%2F6d%2F426d5d9155c35c44e66980c4187f6bab.png&hash=ccbc81518c50baac255d81bd91d056d4391fc034) or a (https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Femojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fcache%2F8c%2F65%2F8c65e5de808ec301754508366480250c.png&hash=7bac25776e20427097c78f48761fcc7574ac2288)Should be all emoji's.2.0 should be written via Facebook meme
all text outside of pictures limited to 140 characters, too.
good luck to the supreme court justices who have to interpret that mess.
That's why we put our best and brightest there.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 15, 2016, 02:19:38 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 15, 2016, 03:03:15 PM
These are real quotes, from a real journalist. This is who is writing the news. Completely absurd.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2016, 03:05:40 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2016, 03:05:52 PM
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“I think Orlando, Fla., is a little safer tonight,” he told his congregation, equating members of the LGBT community to sexual predators. “The tragedy is more of them didn’t die…. I’m kind of upset he didn’t finish the job!”
Jimenez also said if it were up to him, gays and lesbians would be lined up against a wall so a firing squad could “blow their brains out.”
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-pastor-praises-orlando-killings-video-sermon-20160614-snap-story.html
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 15, 2016, 03:14:40 PM
Post by: Fedor on June 15, 2016, 03:26:03 PM
I bet the Central Planners aka the Maoites in residence would prefer a series of 5 year plans, just blow that whole constitution up entirely.5 years is way too long. Rights would be decided with twitter hashtags. If #freespeech fell below the threshold of twitter mentions/hour, Boom! No more 1st amendment.
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2016, 03:39:52 PM
I want to know which grouo is going to be counted as 3/5th a person before I sign off on this going any further
I don't anticipate any fractions in v2.0. I'd been contemplating if they'd be of any use in the abortion section, but I'm hoping we won't need them.
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 15, 2016, 03:51:37 PM
What makes the shooter a bad person and those killed, good people, or perhaps even "innocent"?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 15, 2016, 03:54:04 PM
Question:
What makes the shooter a bad person and those killed, good people, or perhaps even "innocent"?
The shooting makes the shooter a bad person.
Post by: wetwillie on June 15, 2016, 03:55:35 PM
Disgusting. We should repeal the 1st Amendment.
Shall not be infringed asshat
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 15, 2016, 03:56:45 PM
Question:
What makes the shooter a bad person and those killed, good people, or perhaps even "innocent"?
The shooting makes the shooter a bad person.
Need more info.
Post by: CNS on June 15, 2016, 04:02:54 PM
I can't wait to hear about gay, god, etc.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 15, 2016, 04:11:44 PM
Question:
What makes the shooter a bad person and those killed, good people, or perhaps even "innocent"?
The shooting makes the shooter a bad person.
Need more info.
no, not really. bye now.
Post by: Fedor on June 15, 2016, 04:16:44 PM
It is bad because the overwhelming response on social media was negative.Question:
What makes the shooter a bad person and those killed, good people, or perhaps even "innocent"?
The shooting makes the shooter a bad person.
Need more info.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 15, 2016, 04:19:42 PM
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These are real quotes, from a real journalist. This is who is writing the news. Completely absurd.
For a moment there, I didn't know if I was reading about a guy who popped off a few rounds down at the local gun club and then stumbled back to the bar for a Gin and Club Soda, or if it was a guy who spent two weeks battling the NVA in Hue Vietnam.
Post by: Fedor on June 15, 2016, 04:23:07 PM
"brass flying past my face" This freak is left handed, obviously genetically deficient we can safely disregard anything he has to say.(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s526x395/13418977_1110666125672576_7464025411402384257_n.jpg?oh=835e12b1378d65caf7738a25d0f14466&oe=57FA86F8)
These are real quotes, from a real journalist. This is who is writing the news. Completely absurd.
For a moment there, I didn't know if I was reading about a guy who popped off a few rounds down at the local gun club and then stumbled back to the bar for a Gin and Club Soda, or if it was a guy who spent two weeks battling the NVA in Hue Vietnam.
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 15, 2016, 05:49:22 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2016, 06:06:21 PM
Question:
What makes the shooter a bad person and those killed, good people, or perhaps even "innocent"?
The shooting makes the shooter a bad person.
Need more info.
Why do you need more info?
Post by: The Big Train on June 15, 2016, 06:13:14 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 15, 2016, 06:32:33 PM
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 15, 2016, 06:35:03 PM
But I guess if they don't, and people call them out on it, it's RAGE.
Then again, you might be trolling, I didn't get the memo.
Post by: slobber on June 15, 2016, 06:50:19 PM
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2016, 06:50:40 PM
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 15, 2016, 07:07:36 PM
Why are simply worded questions regarding difficult subjects always met with simple, inadequate answers that do not begin to answer the question or provide any insight whatsoever?
Post by: The Big Train on June 15, 2016, 07:08:46 PM
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2016, 07:14:25 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2016, 07:18:54 PM
Hating someone else because your religious is rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
I don't want my god to be a bigoted bad person. If he is, let me rot in so called hell. Stop being a bigoted, over the top, religious freak, PW. You make some of us who want to believe look rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Atheist, stop making fun of religious ppl like you know what's going to happen when you die. You sound like self righteous ass holes who hate the world, because something bad happened to you in your life & you feel like there's no way there's a God.
Everyone, stfu! Nobody is right, yet! And when someone is, you won't be around to troll them about it.
Post by: The Big Train on June 15, 2016, 07:23:23 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2016, 07:25:26 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 15, 2016, 08:11:46 PM
Post by: 8manpick on June 15, 2016, 08:17:00 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 15, 2016, 08:23:39 PM
Michael Moore Twitter feed is very hilarious and sad.
Was it jebs engraved pistol that was the sad/funny part or the Donald trump brown shirt?
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 15, 2016, 08:35:52 PM
Michael Moore Twitter feed is very hilarious and sad.
Was it jebs engraved pistol that was the sad/funny part or the Donald trump brown shirt?
Other stuff.
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 15, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 15, 2016, 09:13:53 PM
We are all capable of identifying a bad act and perhaps even a good one. We, of course, were all born with a foundational understanding of a set of morals.
This, however, does not go far in answering THE question.
Post by: CNS on June 15, 2016, 09:30:52 PM
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Post by: treysolid on June 15, 2016, 09:47:27 PM
Hint:
We are all capable of identifying a bad act and perhaps even a good one. We, of course, were all born with a foundational understanding of a set of morals.
This, however, does not go far in answering THE question.
Their lives were not his to take. He stole from the Many-Faced God.
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 15, 2016, 09:56:30 PM
That's a great way to describe the bible PW
Oh please.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 15, 2016, 10:09:09 PM
Check out these responses!
You are totally smashed like that time we got totally smashed in Wichita. That was so goddam fun
Post by: Trim on June 15, 2016, 10:17:23 PM
Check out these responses!
You are totally smashed like that time we got totally smashed in Wichita. That was so goddam fun
Absolutely no way I could hang now like I did that night.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2016, 10:17:43 PM
Not the place, but why in the world would you need something bad to happen to you in order to not believe?Are you being for reals?
Post by: LickNeckey on June 15, 2016, 10:21:21 PM
Hint:
We are all capable of identifying a bad act and perhaps even a good one. We, of course, were all born with a foundational understanding of a set of morals.
This, however, does not go far in answering THE question.
Their lives were not his to take. He stole from the Many-Faced God.
However that being said, Arya also stole from the many-faced god and I don't think she is a bad person.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2016, 10:25:29 PM
Post by: 8manpick on June 15, 2016, 10:37:10 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 15, 2016, 10:38:53 PM
#wackyscienceYou asked and I told you. I could probably break everyone down on this board to a tee. Myself included.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 15, 2016, 11:49:12 PM
#wackyscienceYou asked and I told you. I could probably break everyone down on this board to a tee. Myself included.
do bushblister
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 16, 2016, 12:00:16 AM
Question:
Why are simply worded questions regarding difficult subjects always met with simple, inadequate answers that do not begin to answer the question or provide any insight whatsoever?
Well, I gave you a complete, adequate answer to a simply worded question regarding a very simple subject.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2016, 12:02:43 AM
I can't help you! Reach out to the guy who finally left Wichita#wackyscienceYou asked and I told you. I could probably break everyone down on this board to a tee. Myself included.
do bushblister
Post by: puniraptor on June 16, 2016, 03:09:12 AM
Post by: pvegs on June 16, 2016, 03:54:38 AM
Not the place, but why in the world would you need something bad to happen to you in order to not believe?Are you being for reals?
i'd say most of these apply to wacky as well http://theslot.jezebel.com/in-honor-of-donald-trumps-70th-birthday-here-are-70-wa-1781899319
Post by: slobber on June 16, 2016, 06:11:21 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2016, 07:06:02 AM
Hot take, pvegs. Happy Trim has found another bitch boy to eff with.Not the place, but why in the world would you need something bad to happen to you in order to not believe?Are you being for reals?
i'd say most of these apply to wacky as well http://theslot.jezebel.com/in-honor-of-donald-trumps-70th-birthday-here-are-70-wa-1781899319
Post by: The Big Train on June 16, 2016, 07:19:16 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 07:21:18 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2016, 07:46:27 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2016, 07:49:33 AM
Some ppl grow up hateful without a mom and dad that never wanted them, troll IRL ppl everyday of their life as a successful lawyer ( on their own free time, tweet IRL interactions of fellow gE'rs and future spouses for "entertainment purposes", without interacting with them) and others like EllRII had something happen in their life where they openly quit on the church. It's #Science
Lots of people believe this about gay people
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2016, 07:54:46 AM
Post by: Trim on June 16, 2016, 08:01:42 AM
What a ridiculous system. I tried watching last night and it was relegated to cspan2 while British legislators yelling were on the main channel. We need v2.0.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2016, 08:12:48 AM
I'm around more gay ppl than the average person, that I'm aware of. I've never heard them exclaim that's why ppl think they're gay, lib^7. But if it is, whatever works for them.
Interesting if accurate
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 08:31:12 AM
I'm trying to understand yesterday's filibuster. Normally a filibuster is to prevent a vote, but there was no vote scheduled. I gathered both sides were kicking around some ideas on legislation about tightening up gun sales to terrorist-ish types, but were trying to agree on detail, in their offices or whatever. So what was the point of that particular filibuster? Was the guy trying to make it so absolutely nothing else besides gun stuff happened in the actual legislature room until those outside the room got to a compromise? Did it work, or was it a lot of grandstanding?
What a ridiculous system. I tried watching last night and it was relegated to cspan2 while British legislators yelling were on the main channel. We need v2.0.
it's just grandstanding
Post by: Trim on June 16, 2016, 08:41:49 AM
I'm trying to understand yesterday's filibuster. Normally a filibuster is to prevent a vote, but there was no vote scheduled. I gathered both sides were kicking around some ideas on legislation about tightening up gun sales to terrorist-ish types, but were trying to agree on detail, in their offices or whatever. So what was the point of that particular filibuster? Was the guy trying to make it so absolutely nothing else besides gun stuff happened in the actual legislature room until those outside the room got to a compromise? Did it work, or was it a lot of grandstanding?
What a ridiculous system. I tried watching last night and it was relegated to cspan2 while British legislators yelling were on the main channel. We need v2.0.
it's just grandstanding
That's too bad. At least there's still the primary plan of praying there aren't any more mass shootings.
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 08:44:52 AM
Post by: Trim on June 16, 2016, 08:47:04 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 08:47:29 AM
Move on to hoping (privately)?
well that's certainly not grandstanding so it's a move in the right direction
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 16, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 08:55:20 AM
(I don't watch much TV)...so this guys walks in to the club ~2AM, shoots up the place for...15 minutes maybe? Tops? Then he's in there for 4 rough ridin' hours before he's killed in a gun battle? What took so long?
barricaded himself in the back with hostages
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2016, 08:56:03 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 16, 2016, 09:03:46 AM
(I don't watch much TV)...so this guys walks in to the club ~2AM, shoots up the place for...15 minutes maybe? Tops? Then he's in there for 4 rough ridin' hours before he's killed in a gun battle? What took so long?
barricaded himself in the back with hostages
Damn. Did any of the hostages make it?
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 09:06:04 AM
(I don't watch much TV)...so this guys walks in to the club ~2AM, shoots up the place for...15 minutes maybe? Tops? Then he's in there for 4 rough ridin' hours before he's killed in a gun battle? What took so long?
barricaded himself in the back with hostages
Damn. Did any of the hostages make it?
I don't know, they punched holes through the exterior wall to get to him though
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2016, 09:08:08 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 09:14:27 AM
Post by: Trim on June 16, 2016, 09:16:36 AM
Post by: 8manpick on June 16, 2016, 09:16:45 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2016, 09:23:04 AM
Latinos just aren't fighters I guess
Firey temper tho
Post by: ChiComCat on June 16, 2016, 09:26:24 AM
Shame she couldn't round up radio hosts to save the day
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 16, 2016, 09:27:16 AM
I'm around more gay ppl than the average person, that I'm aware of.Best fanning brag ever
Post by: michigancat on June 16, 2016, 09:27:17 AM
Lots of army tough guys on am radio questioning why unarmed people being shot at didn't fight backThe thing is an armed security guard/off duty cop and two more cops tried and failed to shoot him
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 09:30:35 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2016, 09:34:02 AM
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 16, 2016, 09:34:43 AM
sounds like they should've had an assault rifle too instead of a glockLots of army tough guys on am radio questioning why unarmed people being shot at didn't fight backThe thing is an armed security guard/off duty cop and two more cops tried and failed to shoot him
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 16, 2016, 09:35:14 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on June 16, 2016, 09:36:14 AM
You obviously wait for him to reload then attack.
obviously
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 09:41:30 AM
Post by: wetwillie on June 16, 2016, 09:47:58 AM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 16, 2016, 10:05:25 AM
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2016, 01:05:59 PM
Quote from: pete sessions
It was a young person's nightclub, I'm told. And there were some [LGBT people] there, but it was mostly Latinos
Post by: Kat Kid on June 16, 2016, 01:41:44 PM
but in my scenario, Operation Flesh Wall, the victims would have converged on the shooter in such a mass he wouldn't have time to shoot every one of them and eventually some of them would have gotten to him or at least contained him in a wall of dead bodies.
Actual writer for The Atlantic Megan McArdle suggested that with a straight face after Newtown (I think).
https://twitter.com/elongreen/status/742557678057197568
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2016, 01:55:04 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 16, 2016, 02:01:30 PM
Seems more reasonable than arming 150 people at a bar
So armed people automatically means someone, if not everyone gets shot?
That is fascinating Lib, even from your hilarious little mind.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 16, 2016, 02:38:59 PM
Post by: catastrophe on June 16, 2016, 03:01:11 PM
I'm trying to understand yesterday's filibuster. Normally a filibuster is to prevent a vote, but there was no vote scheduled. I gathered both sides were kicking around some ideas on legislation about tightening up gun sales to terrorist-ish types, but were trying to agree on detail, in their offices or whatever. So what was the point of that particular filibuster? Was the guy trying to make it so absolutely nothing else besides gun stuff happened in the actual legislature room until those outside the room got to a compromise? Did it work, or was it a lot of grandstanding?
What a ridiculous system. I tried watching last night and it was relegated to cspan2 while British legislators yelling were on the main channel. We need v2.0.
I don't know a ton about the procedural rules, but I think the speaker can have a lot of authority over what bills get considered and when. I think the filibuster was to get their bill on the floor for debate/consideration, which required at least some bipartisan support.
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 16, 2016, 03:08:44 PM
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DENVER -- Gun sales are surging in the wake of Sunday’s deadly mass shooting in Orlando, Fla. The tragedy is generating new debate over gun control reform and the right to bear arms.
Gun shops typically see a spike in customers after mass shootings. But this time, many are seeing shoppers they’ve never really seen before: More gays and lesbians.
The Pink Pistols is a national gun club for gays and lesbians. It saw its membership soar from about 1,500 members on Saturday to 3,500 on Monday.
Post by: Trim on June 16, 2016, 03:21:39 PM
I'm trying to understand yesterday's filibuster. Normally a filibuster is to prevent a vote, but there was no vote scheduled. I gathered both sides were kicking around some ideas on legislation about tightening up gun sales to terrorist-ish types, but were trying to agree on detail, in their offices or whatever. So what was the point of that particular filibuster? Was the guy trying to make it so absolutely nothing else besides gun stuff happened in the actual legislature room until those outside the room got to a compromise? Did it work, or was it a lot of grandstanding?
What a ridiculous system. I tried watching last night and it was relegated to cspan2 while British legislators yelling were on the main channel. We need v2.0.
I don't know a ton about the procedural rules, but I think the speaker can have a lot of authority over what bills get considered and when. I think the filibuster was to get their bill on the floor for debate/consideration, which required at least some bipartisan support.
How'd it go?
Post by: pvegs on June 16, 2016, 03:57:35 PM
Hot take, pvegs. Happy Trim has found another bitch boy to eff with.Not the place, but why in the world would you need something bad to happen to you in order to not believe?Are you being for reals?
i'd say most of these apply to wacky as well http://theslot.jezebel.com/in-honor-of-donald-trumps-70th-birthday-here-are-70-wa-1781899319
when i'm getting stung in the eyeballs by jellyfish next wk, i'm gonna miss these convos, wacks.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 16, 2016, 03:59:24 PM
Post by: Ptolemy on June 16, 2016, 04:11:10 PM
Post by: Trim on June 16, 2016, 04:17:45 PM
Anyone want to explain the logic behind Obama working to take away Americans' right to keep and bear arms while at the same time arming the terrorist-supporting regime of Iran with nuclear weapons?
I don't sweat Iran.
Post by: pvegs on June 16, 2016, 04:21:47 PM
Jellyfish bukake really is a time for reflection.
too tru. after you exhaust your supply of "motherfuckers" all you're left with is "why am i here?" "how did i get here?"
Post by: catastrophe on June 16, 2016, 04:56:54 PM
How'd it go?
People on Facebook seem happy with it. :dunno:
Post by: Trim on June 16, 2016, 05:06:29 PM
How'd it go?
People on Facebook seem happy with it. :dunno:
Mission accomplished!
Post by: MakeItRain on June 16, 2016, 07:34:49 PM
Maybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.
Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too.
Like????
Increase in violent crime, for example (DC, Chicago, etc).
Sorry I'm two days late here and if this has been discussed I apologize but am I reading correctly that emo is proposing more guns to fix the murder rate in Chicago?
:horrorsurprise:
Also not sure why you mentioned D.C., murder rate isn't up there
Post by: MakeItRain on June 16, 2016, 08:42:41 PM
Anyone want to explain the logic behind Obama working to take away Americans' right to keep and bear arms while at the same time arming the terrorist-supporting regime of Iran with nuclear weapons?Undoubtedly Obama's legacy will be the irreversible damage done to gun rights in America, it's shocking how difficult it is to legally acquire guns here as opposed to eight years ago. The rest of the modern world frequently wish their gun laws are as stringent as ours.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 16, 2016, 09:56:17 PM
Maybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.
Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too.
Like????
Increase in violent crime, for example (DC, Chicago, etc).
Sorry I'm two days late here and if this has been discussed I apologize but am I reading correctly that emo is proposing more guns to fix the murder rate in Chicago?
:horrorsurprise:
Also not sure why you mentioned D.C., murder rate isn't up there
Your determination to put words in other people's mouths is astounding.
Post by: Phil Titola on June 16, 2016, 10:51:43 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 16, 2016, 11:27:31 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on June 17, 2016, 12:19:41 AM
Maybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.
Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too.
Like????
Increase in violent crime, for example (DC, Chicago, etc).
Sorry I'm two days late here and if this has been discussed I apologize but am I reading correctly that emo is proposing more guns to fix the murder rate in Chicago?
:horrorsurprise:
Also not sure why you mentioned D.C., murder rate isn't up there
Your determination to put words in other people's mouths is astounding.
You said that a negative consequence of having no legal guns is
Increase in violent crime, for example (DC, Chicago, etc).What words am I putting in your mouth? Very basic logic is dictating that you believe more guns would be helpful in Chicago.
Post by: 8manpick on June 17, 2016, 06:41:44 AM
Post by: Trim on June 17, 2016, 07:36:19 AM
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/pbmjci/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-senate-democrats-filibuster-for-gun-control?xrs=share_copy_email_cctveapp
Post by: steve dave on June 17, 2016, 07:38:54 AM
Post by: The Big Train on June 17, 2016, 08:16:45 AM
Post by: Trim on June 17, 2016, 08:29:31 AM
any updates on if the praying accomplished something?
https://twitter.com/hosienation/status/743771782449139712
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 17, 2016, 08:30:39 AM
Did I miss in the news that the filibuster legit accomplished something or did the daily show get hoodwinked or did they lie?
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/pbmjci/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-senate-democrats-filibuster-for-gun-control?xrs=share_copy_email_cctveapp
My understanding is that they had a deal, but this guy filibustered it for no known reason other than he reps the district where Newton CT is, and then they did or will do the same deal again.
The bipartisan deal is that if you are on "a list" you can't buy a gun. So basically a swift kick in the nuts for due process rights. Very Obama-y.
I think you should keep getting news from the Daily show though. That's awesome.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 17, 2016, 08:32:20 AM
any updates on if the praying accomplished something?
It made a bunch of people who tweeted/posted that they were praying for Orlando instantly feel better about themselves...
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 17, 2016, 08:34:17 AM
FYI, DC vs Heller and Mcdonald vs. Chicago pretty much ended all of Chicago's strict gun laws as of 2008/10 so using Chicago as an example of gun control leading to more violent crime is pretty silly
Fyi, this is completely inaccurate.
Post by: Trim on June 17, 2016, 08:40:23 AM
Did I miss in the news that the filibuster legit accomplished something or did the daily show get hoodwinked or did they lie?
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/pbmjci/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-senate-democrats-filibuster-for-gun-control?xrs=share_copy_email_cctveapp
My understanding is that they had a deal, but this guy filibustered it for no known reason other than he reps the district where Newton CT is, and then they did or will do the same deal again.
The bipartisan deal is that if you are on "a list" you can't buy a gun. So basically a swift kick in the nuts for due process rights. Very Obama-y.
I think you should keep getting news from the Daily show though. That's awesome.
I'd love to see an unbiased news story that plainly clarifies what the filibuster'r thought he was (or wanted people to believe) he was accomplishing, and if it worked. Because as far as I know, absolutely nothing has been accomplished since last Sunday.
"The list" def seems problematic, and already even w/o the gun aspect. I don't follow why it's "secret" and there's no way to litigate being on it or not, if the secret is blown as soon as one tries to get on their flight.
That's really weird that you take a post pointing out that the daily show's representation of something doesn't seem to match reality as "getting news from the daily show."
Post by: Trim on June 17, 2016, 08:40:55 AM
any updates on if the praying accomplished something?
It made a bunch of people who tweeted/posted that they were praying for Orlando instantly feel better about themselves...
I haven't prayed, and nothing's been accomplished. Correlation?
Post by: 8manpick on June 17, 2016, 08:41:37 AM
I mean, handguns are allowed, concealed carry is allowed, there is no gun registry anymore, guns can be sold within city limits. Assault weapons are banned but that is pretty common among major cities... What are Chicago's strict gun laws?FYI, DC vs Heller and Mcdonald vs. Chicago pretty much ended all of Chicago's strict gun laws as of 2008/10 so using Chicago as an example of gun control leading to more violent crime is pretty silly
Fyi, this is completely inaccurate.
Post by: steve dave on June 17, 2016, 08:44:05 AM
Post by: Trim on June 17, 2016, 08:47:48 AM
a strange amount of people become enraged when the daily show is mentioned
Lucky for them, it'll probably be canceled soon. The new guy just isn't funny.
Post by: steve dave on June 17, 2016, 08:50:07 AM
a strange amount of people become enraged when the daily show is mentioned
Lucky for them, it'll probably be canceled soon. The new guy just isn't funny.
yeah, he's not good at all
Post by: Trim on June 17, 2016, 08:56:15 AM
a strange amount of people become enraged when the daily show is mentioned
Lucky for them, it'll probably be canceled soon. The new guy just isn't funny.
yeah, he's not good at all
Oh man, lol at you for getting your news from the daily show.
Post by: ChiComCat on June 17, 2016, 08:59:31 AM
Post by: catastrophe on June 17, 2016, 09:03:49 AM
Anyone want to explain the logic behind Obama working to take away Americans' right to keep and bear arms while at the same time arming the terrorist-supporting regime of Iran with nuclear weapons?Undoubtedly Obama's legacy will be the irreversible damage done to gun rights in America, it's shocking how difficult it is to legally acquire guns here as opposed to eight years ago. The rest of the modern world frequently wish their gun laws are as stringent as ours.
I've never really tried acquiring firearms. Is it difficult in the sense there are requirements you have to meet or else you will be denied to ability to purchase, or is it difficult as in you cannot get whatever you want whenever you want?
Post by: catastrophe on June 17, 2016, 09:04:26 AM
So republicans are ok with no due process for gitmo but want due process if you are going to prevent arm
The whole point of gitmo is that it's not America.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 17, 2016, 09:22:13 AM
So republicans are ok with no due process for gitmo but want due process if you are going to prevent buying guns
Does due process apply to Gitmo? We drone strike lots of foreigners without due process.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 17, 2016, 09:23:34 AM
Did I miss in the news that the filibuster legit accomplished something or did the daily show get hoodwinked or did they lie?
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/pbmjci/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-senate-democrats-filibuster-for-gun-control?xrs=share_copy_email_cctveapp
My understanding is that they had a deal, but this guy filibustered it for no known reason other than he reps the district where Newton CT is, and then they did or will do the same deal again.
The bipartisan deal is that if you are on "a list" you can't buy a gun. So basically a swift kick in the nuts for due process rights. Very Obama-y.
I think you should keep getting news from the Daily show though. That's awesome.
I'd love to see an unbiased news story that plainly clarifies what the filibuster'r thought he was (or wanted people to believe) he was accomplishing, and if it worked. Because as far as I know, absolutely nothing has been accomplished since last Sunday.
"The list" def seems problematic, and already even w/o the gun aspect. I don't follow why it's "secret" and there's no way to litigate being on it or not, if the secret is blown as soon as one tries to get on their flight.
That's really weird that you take a post pointing out that the daily show's representation of something doesn't seem to match reality as "getting news from the daily show."
I agree with you here. Sorry about the daily show dig, I didn't know you were so sensitive about it.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 17, 2016, 09:25:22 AM
So republicans are ok with no due process for gitmo but want due process if you are going to prevent buying guns
So Democrats are okay with due process rights for non-citizen prisoners of war, but not for us citizens who've been charged with no crime?
Post by: ChiComCat on June 17, 2016, 09:27:14 AM
So republicans are ok with no due process for gitmo but want due process if you are going to prevent buying guns
So Democrats are okay with due process rights for non-citizen prisoners of war, but not for us citizens who've been charged with no crime?
I would rather have due process for people we are going to incarcerate than people we are going to prevent from going to a gun range/hunting
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 17, 2016, 09:31:42 AM
I mean, handguns are allowed, concealed carry is allowed, there is no gun registry anymore, guns can be sold within city limits. Assault weapons are banned but that is pretty common among major cities... What are Chicago's strict gun laws?FYI, DC vs Heller and Mcdonald vs. Chicago pretty much ended all of Chicago's strict gun laws as of 2008/10 so using Chicago as an example of gun control leading to more violent crime is pretty silly
Fyi, this is completely inaccurate.
I'm sure there's an ordinance you can post that will spell out Chicago's gun laws.
Heller and McDonald both overturned municipal schemes deliberately designed to make it impossible to legally own a gun. They didn't ban all regulation.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 17, 2016, 09:33:23 AM
So republicans are ok with no due process for gitmo but want due process if you are going to prevent buying guns
So Democrats are okay with due process rights for non-citizen prisoners of war, but not for us citizens who've been charged with no crime?
I would rather have due process for people we are going to incarcerate than people we are going to prevent from going to a gun range/hunting
None of us are surprised you have this perverted take on due process rights.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 17, 2016, 10:18:35 AM
So republicans are ok with no due process for gitmo but want due process if you are going to prevent buying guns
So Democrats are okay with due process rights for non-citizen prisoners of war, but not for us citizens who've been charged with no crime?
I would rather have due process for people we are going to incarcerate than people we are going to prevent from going to a gun range/hunting
:sdeek: :sdeek: :sdeek:
(It doesn't have to be one or the other, FWIW.)
Post by: MakeItRain on June 17, 2016, 07:57:17 PM
Anyone want to explain the logic behind Obama working to take away Americans' right to keep and bear arms while at the same time arming the terrorist-supporting regime of Iran with nuclear weapons?Undoubtedly Obama's legacy will be the irreversible damage done to gun rights in America, it's shocking how difficult it is to legally acquire guns here as opposed to eight years ago. The rest of the modern world frequently wish their gun laws are as stringent as ours.
I've never really tried acquiring firearms. Is it difficult in the sense there are requirements you have to meet or else you will be denied to ability to purchase, or is it difficult as in you cannot get whatever you want whenever you want?
Did you miss my sarcasm or am I missing yours?
Post by: catastrophe on June 18, 2016, 09:20:54 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 18, 2016, 10:52:44 AM
Post by: stunted on June 18, 2016, 01:05:47 PM
Quote
If New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent. In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime#United_States
Post by: star seed 7 on June 18, 2016, 01:16:04 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 18, 2016, 01:52:34 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-16/fbi-us-homicide-rate-51-year-lowThese are encouraging numbers but I wonder about the effect of better medicine.
I'm not coming at you here, dax. I want you to know that a lot of people in Intelligence believe that zerohedge is Russian propaganda. It has no bearing on that article's accuracy, just an FYI.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 18, 2016, 01:57:33 PM
Instead of gun control or bans, violent liberals should stop shooting each otherthis stat needs controls for ancestral slavery in areas of historic poverty before comparing to those enjoying just the opposite.QuoteIf New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent. In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime#United_States
Post by: 8manpick on June 18, 2016, 02:05:38 PM
If Chicago was all rich, murder would probably decline by like 97%Instead of gun control or bans, violent liberals should stop shooting each otherthis stat needs controls for ancestral slavery in areas of historic poverty before comparing to those enjoying just the opposite.QuoteIf New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent. In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime#United_States
Post by: gatoveintisiete on June 18, 2016, 02:57:07 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-16/fbi-us-homicide-rate-51-year-lowThese are encouraging numbers but I wonder about the effect of better medicine.
I'm not coming at you here, dax. I want you to know that a lot of people in Intelligence believe that zerohedge is Russian propaganda. It has no bearing on that article's accuracy, just an FYI.
Man, baby boomers were some overly violent motherfuckers.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 18, 2016, 04:47:27 PM
Post by: slobber on June 18, 2016, 05:38:31 PM
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Post by: stunted on June 18, 2016, 06:50:22 PM
Instead of gun control or bans, violent liberals should stop shooting each otherthis stat needs controls for ancestral slavery in areas of historic poverty before comparing to those enjoying just the opposite.QuoteIf New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent. In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime#United_States
White people :curse:
Post by: CNS on June 18, 2016, 07:15:34 PM
Hey guys, not Orlando related, but I just got back from the gun club that my friend belongs to and I shot skeet today! It was pretty fun! Will do again! North Carolina is the best!
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
I have been meaning to find a good spot around here for that. I really like shooting clays.
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Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 18, 2016, 07:35:07 PM
Hey guys, not Orlando related, but I just got back from the gun club that my friend belongs to and I shot skeet today! It was pretty fun! Will do again! North Carolina is the best!
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
West of town?
Post by: slobber on June 18, 2016, 08:59:07 PM
West of Raleigh. Corner of Hopson and mccrimmon. Called Durham County Wildlife Club. Crazy. It has been there for over 60 years and the development just continued around it.Hey guys, not Orlando related, but I just got back from the gun club that my friend belongs to and I shot skeet today! It was pretty fun! Will do again! North Carolina is the best!
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
West of town?
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 18, 2016, 09:45:21 PM
Instead of gun control or bans, violent liberals should stop shooting each otherthis stat needs controls for ancestral slavery in areas of historic poverty before comparing to those enjoying just the opposite.QuoteIf New York City were all white, the murder rate would drop by 91 percent, the robbery rate by 81 percent, and the shootings rate by 97 percent. In an all-white Chicago, murder would decline 90 percent, rape by 81 percent, and robbery by 90 percent.
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime#United_States
...and if slaves had guns, they wouldn't have been slaves.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 19, 2016, 04:30:48 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 19, 2016, 04:33:37 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 19, 2016, 04:36:40 PM
FBI crime stats and maps are Russian propaganda? Damn those guys are good, that Putin, I tell ya, SMDH.1. I told you that article was accurate
2. The Russians are really good
3. The Russians support reactionary groups in the West and contribute to their narrative
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on June 19, 2016, 07:48:47 PM
Dougie, what you said was pretty dumb.
I think your statement trumps mine in that regard. In 2016, short of being born in the United State, your ancestry should have zero affect on your ability to succeed or live within the law.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 19, 2016, 08:07:18 PM
You think that those with grandparents educated under segregation and Jim Crow have the same starting place as those from families that got the Homestead Act and GI Bill.Dougie, what you said was pretty dumb.
I think your statement trumps mine in that regard. In 2016, short of being born in the United State, your ancestry should have zero affect on your ability to succeed or live within the law.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 19, 2016, 08:20:00 PM
Dougie, what you said was pretty dumb.
I think your statement trumps mine in that regard. In 2016, short of being born in the United State, your ancestry should have zero affect on your ability to succeed or live within the law.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 19, 2016, 08:26:21 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 20, 2016, 07:48:31 AM
Post by: treysolid on June 20, 2016, 11:06:31 AM
http://www.thoughtsandprayersthegame.com/
149 T&Ps in 30 s, you guys. That's republican senator status, right there.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 20, 2016, 11:06:53 AM
And the "not become slaves with guns" statement is an argument against the 2nd Amendment because it simply isn't true. If the US wanted slaves the US military could collect them from any nation not possessing nuclear weapons.
The US Military has kind of already done this.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 20, 2016, 12:27:51 PM
And the "not become slaves with guns" statement is an argument against the 2nd Amendment because it simply isn't true. If the US wanted slaves the US military could collect them from any nation not possessing nuclear weapons.
Are you being serious???
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 20, 2016, 02:29:09 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 20, 2016, 03:58:44 PM
Hey guys, not Orlando related, but I just got back from the gun club that my friend belongs to and I shot skeet today! It was pretty fun! Will do again! North Carolina is the best!
Royals aren't gonna win 'em all
I have been meaning to find a good spot around here for that. I really like shooting clays.
Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk
chowder Creek is really your only choice in JoCo. Luckily it's pretty good.
Post by: CNS on June 20, 2016, 04:05:55 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 20, 2016, 04:08:00 PM
I am in LVCo and avoid JoCo as much as possible, tho.
Fort Lv is your only other option I think. Not sure if civ's can go, I'm sure tons of red tape if you can. It's right down K-7, like technically JoCo but you won't drive past a single taupe house with 3 car garage once you get off the highway.
Post by: CNS on June 20, 2016, 05:13:07 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2016, 05:16:09 PM
Racists love faux outrage
Post by: renocat on June 20, 2016, 07:33:04 PM
Post by: 8manpick on June 20, 2016, 07:47:46 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 20, 2016, 07:59:54 PM
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 20, 2016, 08:12:29 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 20, 2016, 08:25:19 PM
I am glad that bubs is back.
he's really great
Post by: 8manpick on June 20, 2016, 08:38:50 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 21, 2016, 08:05:46 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 21, 2016, 08:38:11 AM
Would Jose be translated to Joe?
Probably not, but dios would be
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 21, 2016, 08:43:54 AM
Post by: sys on June 21, 2016, 09:57:54 AM
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/20/here-s-how-islamists-and-the-far-right-feed-off-each-other.html (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/20/here-s-how-islamists-and-the-far-right-feed-off-each-other.html)
that was insightful.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 21, 2016, 09:59:18 AM
Post by: sys on June 21, 2016, 10:07:06 AM
i only skimmed it but my takeaway was, hate begets hate, which seems pretty intuitive to me.
you should maybe reskim it.
Post by: Asteriskhead on June 21, 2016, 11:46:32 AM
i only skimmed it but my takeaway was, hate begets hate, which seems pretty intuitive to me.
you should maybe reskim it.
maybe later.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on June 21, 2016, 01:55:01 PM
I've always thought translating proper nouns was stupid. Why is Deutschland called Germany? It's stupid.
I agree. As I am learning Spanish, there is really no need for the names of countries to be different in other languages....except maybe countries that have names that contain phrases (United States of America, etc.)
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 21, 2016, 03:10:56 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 21, 2016, 03:16:16 PM
Lock the thread?Tearful Gun Manufacturers Thankful They All Made It Out Of Massacre Safely (http://www.theonion.com/article/tearful-gun-manufacturers-thankful-they-all-made-i-53133)
until next time!
Post by: renocat on June 21, 2016, 11:37:15 PM
Post by: renocat on June 22, 2016, 06:09:48 AM
Post by: sys on June 22, 2016, 07:50:18 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 22, 2016, 08:53:16 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 22, 2016, 09:14:37 AM
Post by: Canary on June 22, 2016, 11:36:12 AM
Gayness drives shooter to join ISIS and murder 49 kind innocent souls because ,,,,, CBS is repoting this morning the lover, a man, of the gunman has come forth and told his stoty. IMO shooter thought to make amends with his religion he had to do this to work his way to heaven. Gay isis guy.If shooting my way out of my sins sets myself right with my religion, there is a huge imbalance between morality and the chosen religion. I have way too many sins to buy my way to heaven. I believe in another means to that end.
Post by: CNS on June 22, 2016, 11:57:13 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2016, 12:16:59 PM
Law abiding citizens must give up their rights.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 22, 2016, 12:27:27 PM
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 22, 2016, 12:29:12 PM
Hey guys when an Islamic terrorist who was investigated by the FBI reportedly on multiple occasions and not placed on any watch list or flagged in any way kills 50 peopleThat's an excellent point.
Law abiding citizens must give up their rights.
I'd still like to see an extended waiting period for all semi-automatic gun sales. Start at three weeks and move it out over time. Gun manufacturers should also pay some sort of per weapon tax to fund mental health support.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 22, 2016, 12:38:48 PM
Hey guys when an Islamic terrorist who was investigated by the FBI reportedly on multiple occasions and not placed on any watch list or flagged in any way kills 50 peopleThat's an excellent point.
Law abiding citizens must give up their rights.
I'd still like to see an extended waiting period for all semi-automatic gun sales. Start at three weeks and move it out over time. Gun manufacturers should also pay some sort of per weapon tax to fund mental health support.
If the general public is the ones who benefit, it should be the general public funding the mental health support.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 22, 2016, 12:53:34 PM
We have an amendment for the right to drink and we pay extra taxes on booze. I think gun lovers should be willing to pay $15 extra for a rifle in hopes that the money will keep someone from using a gun in a way that threatens the right to bear arms.If the general public is the ones who benefit, it should be the general public funding the mental health support.Hey guys when an Islamic terrorist who was investigated by the FBI reportedly on multiple occasions and not placed on any watch list or flagged in any way kills 50 peopleThat's an excellent point.
Law abiding citizens must give up their rights.
I'd still like to see an extended waiting period for all semi-automatic gun sales. Start at three weeks and move it out over time. Gun manufacturers should also pay some sort of per weapon tax to fund mental health support.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 22, 2016, 02:46:35 PM
We have an amendment for the right to drink and we pay extra taxes on booze. I think gun lovers should be willing to pay $15 extra for a rifle in hopes that the money will keep someone from using a gun in a way that threatens the right to bear arms.If the general public is the ones who benefit, it should be the general public funding the mental health support.Hey guys when an Islamic terrorist who was investigated by the FBI reportedly on multiple occasions and not placed on any watch list or flagged in any way kills 50 peopleThat's an excellent point.
Law abiding citizens must give up their rights.
I'd still like to see an extended waiting period for all semi-automatic gun sales. Start at three weeks and move it out over time. Gun manufacturers should also pay some sort of per weapon tax to fund mental health support.
Tax on alcohol is designed to drive tax revenue, not pay for some societal problem tied to the use of alcohol.
People purchasing a firearm already pay a Pittman-Robertson tax. It's the only time in the history of the US that American citizens went to the government and said "tax me. It's time for the freeloaders to step up. Anyway, one could argue that the government should subsidize firearms, as even low estimates say they prevent 100 times more crimes than are caused by their existence.
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 22, 2016, 10:01:48 PM
The "sin tax" on booze is meant to be a societal restraint.
And the idea that guns have a curbing effect on crime is ludicrous. First and foremost, it's rough ridin' impossible to study. We could line up Canadian cities against American ones all day and not be able to control for a million different elements.
Post by: bucket on June 22, 2016, 10:06:06 PM
OK, since your argument has been prepared I'm concluding that gun owners are completely unwilling to do anything to prevent gun violence. Are there really no ideas from your side about how to reduce the number of massacres in schools and movie theaters and nightclubs? Not even some gestures of restraint?
The "sin tax" on booze is meant to be a societal restraint.
And the idea that guns have a curbing effect on crime is ludicrous. First and foremost, it's rough ridin' impossible to study. We could line up Canadian cities against American ones all day and not be able to control for a million different elements.
Especially when you consider the ban on federal funding for gun violence research by the CDC. I wonder why they would do that?
Post by: bubbles4ksu on June 22, 2016, 10:10:53 PM
Post by: bucket on June 22, 2016, 10:15:01 PM
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They say if he (director of the CDC) dares publicly talk about lives lost to guns, Congress might retaliate by taking away CDC funding for a whole host of safety issues, including motor vehicle accidents, traumatic brain injury and child abuse, to name just a few.
That, they say, is the strength of the gun lobby in the United States.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/14/health/cdc-frieden-gun-research/
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2016, 10:15:15 PM
Post by: halfEmpty on June 23, 2016, 06:03:27 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2016, 08:49:32 AM
I can't imagine living my life clutching my gun every night nervous that a) I'm definitely going to have to use this tonight to protect myself and b) if I don't hold tight enough {insert liberal name here} is going to come take Betsie (or whatever you named it). Weird.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 09:26:50 AM
OK, since your argument has been prepared I'm concluding that gun owners are completely unwilling to do anything to prevent gun violence. Are there really no ideas from your side about how to reduce the number of massacres in schools and movie theaters and nightclubs? Not even some gestures of restraint?That's not true at all. There were two bills that had Republican (and NRA!) support that didn't 1) didn't trample due process laws and therefore 2) wouldn't have been ruled unconstitutional, but the Democrats would rather throw a staged rough ridin' fit and sit on the goddamned floor like petulant children. How do you explain that? There could have been some movement, anything, but they balked because they'd rather grandstand for votes than actually do something that might help somebody. It's nearly unbelievable, except it's not.
The "sin tax" on booze is meant to be a societal restraint.That's not true at all. It's meant to drive tax revenue. Your statement is true for tobacco products, but not for alcohol.
And the idea that guns have a curbing effect on crime is ludicrous. First and foremost, it's rough ridin' impossible to study. We could line up Canadian cities against American ones all day and not be able to control for a million different elements.If it's impossible to study (it's not), then isn't it impossible to conclude the opposite?
Here's the thing folks...there are evil people in this world, there are mentally ill people in this world, and they will cause harm, and no laws restricting the rights of law-abiding free people will stop that. It only takes us looking at what happened in Paris to know that.
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2016, 09:33:11 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 09:34:27 AM
Post by: sys on June 23, 2016, 09:38:22 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2016, 09:39:03 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 09:40:19 AM
Laws against stealing don't stop people from stealing, they just trample the rights of law abiding citizens. Repeal theft laws!
^ this guy likes people who sit on the floor (obviously)
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2016, 09:41:19 AM
A ton more than whom?
Every other industrialized country...based on my daily dealings I'd believe you if you said yes
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 10:13:52 AM
A ton more than whom?
Every other industrialized country...based on my daily dealings I'd believe you if you said yes
I don't know, I haven't studied every other industrialized country. I'm pretty sure we prescribe a crap ton more medicines treating mental illnesses than any other industrialized country. But I think we are also a very unique country. No other country is as large and populous as ours, with such stark socio-economic differentials, and packed with as many different and sometimes conflicting cultures. And the rampant drug use, too, doesn't help. And we have a lot of guns too, which are a lot more safe than driving your car or going to the doctor in this country.
What did you think of the sit in? Do you support that? Why shouldn't the dems have taken the NRA supported bills?
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2016, 10:34:27 AM
And we have a lot of guns too, which are a lot more safe than driving your car or going to the doctor in this country.
Nonsense like this makes it impossible to take anything you say seriously.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 10:43:50 AM
And we have a lot of guns too, which are a lot more safe than driving your car or going to the doctor in this country.
Nonsense like this makes it impossible to take anything you say seriously.
It's true though. Both kill way more people than guns. Orders of magnitude more.
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2016, 10:49:42 AM
A ton more than whom?
Every other industrialized country...based on my daily dealings I'd believe you if you said yes
I don't know, I haven't studied every other industrialized country. I'm pretty sure we prescribe a crap ton more medicines treating mental illnesses than any other industrialized country. But I think we are also a very unique country. No other country is as large and populous as ours, with such stark socio-economic differentials, and packed with as many different and sometimes conflicting cultures. And the rampant drug use, too, doesn't help. And we have a lot of guns too, which are a lot more safe than driving your car or going to the doctor in this country.
What did you think of the sit in? Do you support that? Why shouldn't the dems have taken the NRA supported bills?
No real opinion on the sit in.... It will probably just drive the two sides further apart.
Post by: sys on June 23, 2016, 10:50:49 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2016, 10:53:06 AM
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2016, 11:01:32 AM
And we have a lot of guns too, which are a lot more safe than driving your car or going to the doctor in this country.
Nonsense like this makes it impossible to take anything you say seriously.
It's true though. Both kill way more people than guns. Orders of magnitude more.
Choking kills more people than carbon monoxide. Is carbon monoxide safer than eating?
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 11:14:38 AM
A ton more than whom?
Every other industrialized country...based on my daily dealings I'd believe you if you said yes
I don't know, I haven't studied every other industrialized country. I'm pretty sure we prescribe a crap ton more medicines treating mental illnesses than any other industrialized country. But I think we are also a very unique country. No other country is as large and populous as ours, with such stark socio-economic differentials, and packed with as many different and sometimes conflicting cultures. And the rampant drug use, too, doesn't help. And we have a lot of guns too, which are a lot more safe than driving your car or going to the doctor in this country.
What did you think of the sit in? Do you support that? Why shouldn't the dems have taken the NRA supported bills?
No real opinion on the sit in.... It will probably just drive the two sides further apart.
How can you not have an opinion? Are you lazy? Do you not actually care?
Post by: wELLsculptedbrows on June 23, 2016, 11:17:14 AM
Post by: chum1 on June 23, 2016, 11:21:53 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on June 23, 2016, 11:23:41 AM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 11:36:21 AM
I like how they were described as NRA supported bills and not Republican supported bills.
Link?
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 23, 2016, 11:44:38 AM
I like how they were described as NRA supported bills and not Republican supported bills.
Link?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37721.msg1580456#msg1580456
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 12:00:05 PM
I like how they were described as NRA supported bills and not Republican supported bills.
Link?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37721.msg1580456#msg1580456
Did you not read this post? http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37721.msg1580408#msg1580408
Are you not a fan of brevity?
Post by: michigancat on June 23, 2016, 12:04:37 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 23, 2016, 12:09:09 PM
I like how they were described as NRA supported bills and not Republican supported bills.
Link?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37721.msg1580456#msg1580456
Did you not read this post? http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37721.msg1580408#msg1580408
Are you not a fan of brevity?
There's a time and place for that, el Emo emawrino
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 12:09:56 PM
I like how they were described as NRA supported bills and not Republican supported bills.
Link?
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37721.msg1580456#msg1580456
Did you not read this post? http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=37721.msg1580408#msg1580408
Are you not a fan of brevity?
There's a time and place for that, el Emo emawrino
I guess sometimes you eat the bar.
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2016, 12:19:34 PM
A ton more than whom?
Every other industrialized country...based on my daily dealings I'd believe you if you said yes
I don't know, I haven't studied every other industrialized country. I'm pretty sure we prescribe a crap ton more medicines treating mental illnesses than any other industrialized country. But I think we are also a very unique country. No other country is as large and populous as ours, with such stark socio-economic differentials, and packed with as many different and sometimes conflicting cultures. And the rampant drug use, too, doesn't help. And we have a lot of guns too, which are a lot more safe than driving your car or going to the doctor in this country.
What did you think of the sit in? Do you support that? Why shouldn't the dems have taken the NRA supported bills?
No real opinion on the sit in.... It will probably just drive the two sides further apart.
How can you not have an opinion? Are you lazy? Do you not actually care?
My opinion on guns is pretty clear. My opinion on what Congress is doing to help is they are all dumbasses doing the bidding of whatever dumbass organization pays them the most money. Sit in, shutdown, grandstanding.... All the same... Dumbasses.
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 23, 2016, 12:25:01 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on June 23, 2016, 12:36:34 PM
Post by: Creepy Cat on June 23, 2016, 12:45:02 PM
I'm not clear what your opinion is. You have probably stated it but I don't keep notes like Creepy Cat.
Did somebody call? :fatty:
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 23, 2016, 12:53:44 PM
And we have a lot of guns too, which are a lot more safe than driving your car or going to the doctor in this country.
Nonsense like this makes it impossible to take anything you say seriously.
That's one of the best idiot lines of all time
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