Orlando shooting. Sad.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

So no mention from dax of the republican favored draconian police state involved in rounding up and imprisoning american citizens that have committed no crimes?

Color me shocked that known partisan right wing wacko dax has no problem with that. Trump 2016!!!

Like what neo-socialist hero FDR did?

Lol, lib7 is one of those guys who thinks trump wants to reinstate slavery. So brainwashed

[sonofdaxjones]

So no mention from dax of the republican favored draconian police state involved in rounding up and imprisoning american citizens that have committed no crimes?

Color me shocked that known partisan right wing wacko dax has no problem with that. Trump 2016!!!

Like what neo-socialist hero FDR did?

Lol, lib7 is one of those guys who thinks trump wants to reinstate slavery. So brainwashed

Even worse, more of putting campaign rhetoric (exaggerated by the Lib7 the resident lib Jackboot as always) on the same level, even superseding actual policy being carried forth by the current administration.    That's a Jim Jones level of Kool-Aid drinking, that's full indoctrination and hyper-partisanship on display.    How . . . sad  #smdh

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I find it interesting that the current situation in the ME is topical in the context of this mass homicide. Not because of the exercise in demonstrating egregious left-winged hypocrisy, but because of the lefts proud proclaimed hindsight concerning the "overreaction" that led us into the Iraq war, the Patriot Act, etc.

Apparently neo-socialists like lib7 and 'teve 'ave are okay with sweeping reactionary policy when events are triggered by a single deranged psychopath, but not in response to the most orchestrated foreign attack on American soil since the Revolutionary War.

Being a libtard must be a dreadfully sad and stupid existence.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

So no mention from dax of the republican favored draconian police state involved in rounding up and imprisoning american citizens that have committed no crimes?

Color me shocked that known partisan right wing wacko dax has no problem with that. Trump 2016!!!

Like what neo-socialist hero FDR did?

Lol, lib7 is one of those guys who thinks trump wants to reinstate slavery. So brainwashed

Even worse, more of putting campaign rhetoric (exaggerated by the Lib7 the resident lib Jackboot as always) on the same level, even superseding actual policy being carried forth by the current administration.    That's a Jim Jones level of Kool-Aid drinking, that's full indoctrination and hyper-partisanship on display.    How . . . sad  #smdh

Lib7 is a moron, incapable of cognition, and who doesn't know what the eff is going on ever. He is the target demographic (victim) of media matters, think progress and Tom the bug cartoons.

[yoga-like_abana]

this is a terrible situation but talk about the ultimate melting pot for discussion..
You've got an ISIS terrorist, LGBT community, a mass shooting and thoughts and prayers.
Wow.... Just drink it in..

[420seriouscat69]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gunmans-wife-tried-to-talk-him-out-of-attack/ar-AAh2kPR

His wife knew too and helped him drive around casing places.

[bubbles4ksu]

this is a terrible situation but talk about the ultimate melting pot for discussion..
You've got an ISIS terrorist, LGBT community, a mass shooting and thoughts and prayers.
Wow.... Just drink it in..

Yes everyone is mad as hell and about to elect a president who will take office with 70% disapproval.

[DQ12]

We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun.  Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.

Isn't there a waiting period already?

Not nearly long enough

how long should it be

[Emo EMAW]

We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun.  Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.

Isn't there a waiting period already?

Not nearly long enough

how long should it be

Well considering this dude was a sicko on 9/11, at least 15 years.

[chuckjames]

We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun.  Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.

Isn't there a waiting period already?

Not nearly long enough

how long should it be

The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.

[DQ12]

We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun.  Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.

Isn't there a waiting period already?

Not nearly long enough

how long should it be

The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.

seems like a reasonable opinion

[wetwillie]

We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun.  Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.

Isn't there a waiting period already?

Not nearly long enough

how long should it be

1 year

[chuckjames]

We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun.  Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.

Isn't there a waiting period already?

Not nearly long enough

how long should it be

The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.

seems like a reasonable opinion

I honestly don't know. I just know this crazy was able to buy a gun in the same week he killed 50 people and injured another 50 so that's not ideal.

[DQ12]

We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun.  Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.

Isn't there a waiting period already?

Not nearly long enough

how long should it be

The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.

seems like a reasonable opinion

I honestly don't know. I just know this crazy was able to buy a gun in the same week he killed 50 people and injured another 50 so that's not ideal.

I don't know either.  I think what this guy did was disgusting and horrible.  But I also understand that his right to buy the tool used to carry out the massacre is constitutionally guaranteed.  It's a sticky wicket, those civil liberties.

[Trim]

Should the constitution still be a thing in 2016?

[DQ12]

Should the constitution still be a thing in 2016?

there's some good stuff in there imo

[chuckjames]

We need to make it really rough ridin' hard to get a gun.  Not impossible just really hard. Long waiting time, unnecessary hoops etc.

Isn't there a waiting period already?

Not nearly long enough

how long should it be

The natural life of the person trying to buy the gun.

seems like a reasonable opinion

I honestly don't know. I just know this crazy was able to buy a gun in the same week he killed 50 people and injured another 50 so that's not ideal.

I don't know either.  I think what this guy did was disgusting and horrible.  But I also understand that his right to buy the tool used to carry out the massacre is constitutionally guaranteed.  It's a sticky wicket, those civil liberties.

Just wondering, would you consider yourself an organalist? Like where on the Supreme Court spectrum do you think you fall?

[Rage Against the McKee]

The best solution is probably to just regulate guns to the point that they are unattractive to purchase.

[michigancat]

Should the constitution still be a thing in 2016?

there's some good stuff in there imo

it could still probably use a refresh. And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.

[Trim]

Should the constitution still be a thing in 2016?

there's some good stuff in there imo

Sure.  But it's def time for a reboot.  That would be a nice thing to break out by 2026 to celebrate 250 years of usa.

[Tobias]

#usa2026

[DQ12]

Just wondering, would you consider yourself an organalist? Like where on the Supreme Court spectrum do you think you fall?

I don't really consider myself any kind of constitutional interpreter.  I'm mostly just interested in figuring out what the Court says our rights are.  And if the Court says that we have a right, then I think we have that right, and I don't really blame people for fighting to defend rights they care about.

For instance, i'm pretty pro-life, but the Court says there's a right to abortion, so, until that changes, I recognize that people have that right and I don't blame them for fighting to defend it.  Same with guns.

[Trim]

And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.

Yes, I like this.

I hated con law.

[DQ12]

And in the refresh, specify the need for a refresh every 10 years or 25 years or whatever.

Yes, I like this.

I hated con law.

Me too.  But First Amendment and crimpro classes made me think that the constitution is pretty groovy in some respects.

[WildcatNkilt]

I saw a quote on FB from someone famous (I think).  They made it into a meme but it made a lot of sense to me. 

Something along the lines of there are two reasons to own an assault rifle.

Reason 1) take it every so often to a firing range to shoot targets and get horny (this made laugh) off of the smoke and fire that comes out of it while hollering loudly at its performance.

Reason 2) to kill


My feelings are guns need to be regulated.  I also respect gun owners and their rights to own firearms.  I don't understand why some gun activists get upset over the thought of restrictions on certain weapons. 

I'm probably pretty ignorant and there are great needs that make total sense for Joe Somebody to have the ability to purchase an assault rifle.  I just haven't had it explained to me other than "its my right as an American citizen" or some junk like that.