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I'm trying to understand yesterday's filibuster. Normally a filibuster is to prevent a vote, but there was no vote scheduled. I gathered both sides were kicking around some ideas on legislation about tightening up gun sales to terrorist-ish types, but were trying to agree on detail, in their offices or whatever. So what was the point of that particular filibuster? Was the guy trying to make it so absolutely nothing else besides gun stuff happened in the actual legislature room until those outside the room got to a compromise? Did it work, or was it a lot of grandstanding? What a ridiculous system. I tried watching last night and it was relegated to cspan2 while British legislators yelling were on the main channel. We need v2.0.
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Quote from: Trim on June 16, 2016, 08:01:42 AMI'm trying to understand yesterday's filibuster. Normally a filibuster is to prevent a vote, but there was no vote scheduled. I gathered both sides were kicking around some ideas on legislation about tightening up gun sales to terrorist-ish types, but were trying to agree on detail, in their offices or whatever. So what was the point of that particular filibuster? Was the guy trying to make it so absolutely nothing else besides gun stuff happened in the actual legislature room until those outside the room got to a compromise? Did it work, or was it a lot of grandstanding? What a ridiculous system. I tried watching last night and it was relegated to cspan2 while British legislators yelling were on the main channel. We need v2.0.I don't know a ton about the procedural rules, but I think the speaker can have a lot of authority over what bills get considered and when. I think the filibuster was to get their bill on the floor for debate/consideration, which required at least some bipartisan support.
Quote from: pvegs on June 16, 2016, 03:54:38 AMQuote from: WackyCat08 on June 15, 2016, 10:17:43 PMQuote from: 8manpick on June 15, 2016, 08:17:00 PMNot the place, but why in the world would you need something bad to happen to you in order to not believe?Are you being for reals?i'd say most of these apply to wacky as well http://theslot.jezebel.com/in-honor-of-donald-trumps-70th-birthday-here-are-70-wa-1781899319Hot take, pvegs. Happy Trim has found another bitch boy to eff with.
Quote from: WackyCat08 on June 15, 2016, 10:17:43 PMQuote from: 8manpick on June 15, 2016, 08:17:00 PMNot the place, but why in the world would you need something bad to happen to you in order to not believe?Are you being for reals?i'd say most of these apply to wacky as well http://theslot.jezebel.com/in-honor-of-donald-trumps-70th-birthday-here-are-70-wa-1781899319
Quote from: 8manpick on June 15, 2016, 08:17:00 PMNot the place, but why in the world would you need something bad to happen to you in order to not believe?Are you being for reals?
Not the place, but why in the world would you need something bad to happen to you in order to not believe?
Anyone want to explain the logic behind Obama working to take away Americans' right to keep and bear arms while at the same time arming the terrorist-supporting regime of Iran with nuclear weapons?
Jellyfish bukake really is a time for reflection.
How'd it go?
Quote from: Trim on June 16, 2016, 03:21:39 PMHow'd it go?People on Facebook seem happy with it.
Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on June 14, 2016, 12:00:22 PMQuote from: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 11:55:05 AMQuote from: Trim on June 14, 2016, 11:42:15 AMMaybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too. Like????Increase in violent crime, for example (DC, Chicago, etc).
Quote from: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 11:55:05 AMQuote from: Trim on June 14, 2016, 11:42:15 AMMaybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too. Like????
Quote from: Trim on June 14, 2016, 11:42:15 AMMaybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too.
Maybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.
Quote from: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 12:13:30 PMQuote from: libliblibliblibliblib on June 14, 2016, 12:00:22 PMQuote from: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 11:55:05 AMQuote from: Trim on June 14, 2016, 11:42:15 AMMaybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too. Like????Increase in violent crime, for example (DC, Chicago, etc). Sorry I'm two days late here and if this has been discussed I apologize but am I reading correctly that emo is proposing more guns to fix the murder rate in Chicago? Also not sure why you mentioned D.C., murder rate isn't up there
Quote from: MakeItRain on June 16, 2016, 07:34:49 PMQuote from: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 12:13:30 PMQuote from: libliblibliblibliblib on June 14, 2016, 12:00:22 PMQuote from: Emo EMAW on June 14, 2016, 11:55:05 AMQuote from: Trim on June 14, 2016, 11:42:15 AMMaybe not having all to deal with all the negative consequences of legal guns would free up some resources to focus in on dealing with the new illegal gun problem.Well then you would have to deal with the negative consequences of not having legal guns, too. Like????Increase in violent crime, for example (DC, Chicago, etc). Sorry I'm two days late here and if this has been discussed I apologize but am I reading correctly that emo is proposing more guns to fix the murder rate in Chicago? Also not sure why you mentioned D.C., murder rate isn't up thereYour determination to put words in other people's mouths is astounding.
Increase in violent crime, for example (DC, Chicago, etc).
any updates on if the praying accomplished something?
Did I miss in the news that the filibuster legit accomplished something or did the daily show get hoodwinked or did they lie?http://www.cc.com/video-clips/pbmjci/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-senate-democrats-filibuster-for-gun-control?xrs=share_copy_email_cctveapp
FYI, DC vs Heller and Mcdonald vs. Chicago pretty much ended all of Chicago's strict gun laws as of 2008/10 so using Chicago as an example of gun control leading to more violent crime is pretty silly