Phil Steele was on 610 this morning, 7-6, at 11am

[j@yh@wks]

No charge.

 

Thanks

[JTKSU]

VT had no business being ranked in the top 10 in the AP poll anyway. They played in the worst conference that season. The ACC was pathetic.

Actually the Pac10 was worse.

Being better than the Pac 10 doesn't say much

Says ku probably would have rolled the Pac 10 Champs.  LOL how USC deserved their #3 ranking but VT didn't deserve #9. 

Are you seriously trying to say that uk was a better team than USC that year?  Please tell me at which positions uk was more talented or better coached than USC.  Jesus dude, USC's 2 deep would have rolled you.  They had like 7 high school AAs at RB that year.  Yeah, they &@#%ed up and lost to a bad Stanford team, but that certainly doesn't mean that uk was a better team that year.  You sir, are a retard.

[JTKSU]

Gotta admit . . . the resident validators are trying to cash in a lot of chips early this year.

They've pretty much already crowned themselves Big 12 Champions in Football and National Champions in basketball.

If you look at my past posts I've never guaranteed any of the above.  I think we will play in the B12CG but I am not expecting a win in it.  As for bball?  Who knows with some of the clowns (henry's) and their dad's mouth.  Could implode, could win it all.  

So what makes you think that uk will win one of those three games (vs. south opponents) during the regular season, but couldn't beat them in the B12CG?

I think the team (or one of the teams) that beats ku from the south will also beat them in the B12CG.  I am pretty sure it will not be TT.

Of course, dude.  I mean, you guys were so close to beating TT last year, and you have some incoming freshman that are practicing well, so why on earth wouldn't you beat them this year?

[mcmwcat]

if ku doesn't win the north does kufan get mad at Mangino or will they just lose interest?  if ku doesn't win the north now do they just quit trying at football for fear of infraction hurting the hoops program?  in this risk/reward scenario i would quit trying at football

[j@yh@wks]

VT had no business being ranked in the top 10 in the AP poll anyway. They played in the worst conference that season. The ACC was pathetic.

Actually the Pac10 was worse.

Being better than the Pac 10 doesn't say much

Says ku probably would have rolled the Pac 10 Champs.  LOL how USC deserved their #3 ranking but VT didn't deserve #9. 

Are you seriously trying to say that uk was a better team than USC that year?  Please tell me at which positions uk was more talented or better coached than USC.  Jesus dude, USC's 2 deep would have rolled you.  They had like 7 high school AAs at RB that year.  Yeah, they fracked up and lost to a bad Stanford team, but that certainly doesn't mean that uk was a better team that year.  You sir, are a retard.

12 - 1 SOS of 72
11 - 2 SOS of 73

Which one is ku and which one is USC?  ku didn't frack up and lose to any bad teams that year.  Thanks for the retard comment though, shows your intellectual skills.

[sonofdaxjones]

You know I once tried to make an argument that the 1993 K-State which played #3, #16, #17 (Final Polls) Nebraska, CU and OU on back-to-back-to back saturadays. . . that if K-State would've won the NU game (lost 45-28 as nu pulled away late in Lincoln), and beat CU (tied 16-16) and then not screwed up and lost @ Iowa State (seriously WTF), that K-State would've played for the National Title.   Ah yes, good times.

Dang, nationally ranked NU, CU and OU on back-to-back-to-back weekends . . . the modern day version of Mark Mangino would've coughed up a 20oz ribeye and died facing that gauntlet.  That's more games against final Top 25 teams in the span of 3 weeks, than Mangino faced during 2 full regular seasons in 2006 and 2007.

[BMWJhawk]

How can 'Pad and his cult following act like it's easy to win in Manhattan, Boulder, Stillwater, or College Station?  Texas couldn't beat A&M in College Station in '07.  Oklahoma couldn't beat Colorado in Boulder in '07.  Heck, Texas lost at home to K-State that year.  Also, it's hilarious watching K-State fans try to put down Va Tech, like they're some mediocre ACC program.  Va Tech has won 10+ games for five years in a row... they're in the midst of their own "DoD."  Speaking of the ACC, take a look at that conference.  Every program except for Duke has been solid over the past few years.  Florida St, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Maryland, UNC, Wake Forest, Clemson, Miami (FL), NC State, etc.  That's no cakewalk.  In fact, I think it's better from top to bottom than the Big East, Pac 10, and Big 10.  I don't care what anyone says.  Now, back to ku's '07 schedule... 6 out of the 13 games were against bowl teams, including two teams that finished in the top 10.  The team featured a top 20 NFL Draft pick at CB, a 2nd-team AA at LT, and the Big 12 DPOY at DT.  They also lost a 1,000 yard rusher in Brandon McAnderson, and a couple NFL Draft picks in Marcus Henry (WR) and Derek Fine (TE).  The '07 team was superior to the '08 team.  There's really no denying it. 

Now, did ku fans expect the '08 team to be better than 8-5?  I'd say most ku fans would have predicted 9-4 or 10-3 if you include the bowl game.  ku was actually pretty close to 9-4 if you look at how close that South Florida game was.  ku had a chance to win at the end, but Reesing threw an INT and South Florida made a last-second FG.  If ku beats Nebraska in Lincoln, they win the North.  So while '08 wasn't the type of season that ku fans were hoping for, it wasn't a complete failure, either.  ku was able to beat both K-State and Mizzou, and went to its first ever back-to-back bowl game.  Laugh all you want, but K-State didn't create "DoD" overnight.  Call me a homer all you want, but ku and Nebraska are the favorites to win the North in '09.  No one in the North brings back a QB with as much experience and talent as Reesing.  No one in the North has a receiving corp like ku.  Sure, ku's schedule is tough, but like I said, I expect ku's defense to be much improved next year.  ku's offense will be tough to stop, and if the defense is as improved as I think it will be, ku's going to be really, really good. 

[sonofdaxjones]

No one cares anymore Ben . . . go explain it all back in Tardville.

[BMWJhawk]

No one cares anymore Ben . . . go explain it all back in Tardville.

 

[sonofdaxjones]

Reconcile yourself to the reality that no team ku played in conference play in 2007 finished above .500 in conference play except for MU, and ku lost that game.  Reconcile yourself to the reality that ku finished the regular season with a 77th rated SOS

The average total defense rankings of ku's Big 12 Opponents in 2007 . . .83rd.  Number of defenses that ku faced in the Top 60 in the country in conference play in 2007 . . . 1 . . . MU at 59th.

Average Total Defense Rankings for all of ku's 2007 regular season opponents . . . 88th.   ku played the 101st, 110th, 112th, 109th, 102nd and 105th rated defenses in the country in 2007.   Yes, ku played 6 of the worst defenses in college football in 2007, that's half the schedule right there.

As a comparison . . . K-State's conference opponents average defensive rankings . . .63rd.    Highest Defense rank K-State faced was . . . 6th (ku . . . 59th), next highest was 12th (ku's next highest . . . 64th).    K-State opponents average defensive ranking-all . . . 66th (ku . . . 88th).  

Scoring Defense (Opponents) Average Rank:

ku:  89th.  Highest Ranked: 49th, next highest 75th.  Lowest Ranked 116th, number of scoring defenses ranked in the top 60 . . . 1.  ku played against the 111th, 116th, 115th, 112th, and 114th ranked scoring defenses in the country in the 2007 regular season, that's 5 games against literally the worst scoring defenses in college football.

As a comparison-

K-State: 64th. Highest Ranked: 4th, next highest ranked 6th, lowest ranked 114th, number of scoring defenses in the Top 60 . . .4.

And Bill Snyder turned away in horror . . .

[cireksu]

Reconcile yourself to the reality that no team ku played in conference play in 2007 finished above .500 in conference play except for MU,

that is unreal

[sonofdaxjones]

Conference record of ku's 2007 big 12 opponents:  26-38  

ku's 2007 regular season opponents:  65-87

[fatty fat fat]

Conference record of ku's 2007 big 12 opponents:  26-38 

ku's 2007 regular season opponents:  65-87

pretty much like ksu in 1997.

[BMWJhawk]

Reconcile yourself to the reality that no team ku played in conference play in 2007 finished above .500 in conference play except for MU, and ku lost that game.  Reconcile yourself to the reality that ku finished the regular season with a 77th rated SOS

The average total defense rankings of ku's Big 12 Opponents in 2007 . . .83rd.  Number of defenses that ku faced in the Top 60 in the country in conference play in 2007 . . . 1 . . . MU at 59th.

Average Total Defense Rankings for all of ku's 2007 regular season opponents . . . 88th.   ku played the 101st, 110th, 112th, 109th, 102nd and 105th rated defenses in the country in 2007.   Yes, ku played 6 of the worst defenses in college football in 2007, that's half the schedule right there.

As a comparison . . . K-State's conference opponents average defensive rankings . . .63rd.    Highest Defense rank K-State faced was . . . 6th (ku . . . 59th), next highest was 12th (ku's next highest . . . 64th).    K-State opponents average defensive ranking-all . . . 66th (ku . . . 88th).  

Scoring Defense (Opponents) Average Rank:

ku:  89th.  Highest Ranked: 49th, next highest 75th.  Lowest Ranked 116th, number of scoring defenses ranked in the top 60 . . . 1.  ku played against the 111th, 116th, 115th, 112th, and 114th ranked scoring defenses in the country in the 2007 regular season, that's 5 games against literally the worst scoring defenses in college football.

As a comparison-

K-State: 64th. Highest Ranked: 4th, next highest ranked 6th, lowest ranked 114th, number of scoring defenses in the Top 60 . . .4.

And Bill Snyder turned away in horror . . .

First of all, I'd just like to say that I can literally feel the bitterness and jealousy popping out of the computer screen.  Holy smokes... that is quite the tit fit.  Now, if I may...


1.  It's so convenient how you limit everything to the regular season.  As I've pointed out, ku's conference schedule was determined by the Big 12.  It had nothing to do with ku.  Central Michigan was a bowl team and Toledo beat ku the year before.  The non-con schedule was more difficult than the cupcakes Bill Snyder used to schedule at K-State.  

2.  ku did what it was supposed to do against less talented teams.  Programs such as USC, Oklahoma, and LSU did not.  

3.  That second-highest ranked defense that K-State faced was ku at #12.  Thanks for pointing that out for us... Oh, and Va Tech was ranked #4 overall in total defense, by the way.  

 

4.  In 2007, ku ranked #8 in the country in total offense.  ku's defense (ranked #12 overall) faced three top 10 offenses in (5) Mizzou, (7) Oklahoma St, and (9) Nebraska.  ku's defense also faced (40) K-State and (58) Texas A&M.  

5.  As I've pointed out, ku won road games in Manhattan, Boulder, Stillwater, and College Station.  Since when were those easy places to win?  Oklahoma lost to Colorado that year in Boulder.  Texas lost to K-State that year at home.  Texas also lost in College Station that season.  It's not like ku was just playing a bunch of nobodies.  I'd like to see how many teams go into Stillwater next season and come out with a victory.  


...don't look now, Bill Snyder just scheduled his 2nd D-1AA school for the '09 season.  



 

[fatty fat fat]

Now, did ku fans expect the '08 team to be better than 8-5?  I'd say most ku fans would have predicted 9-4 or 10-3 if you include the bowl game.  ku was actually pretty close to 9-4 if you look at how close that South Florida game was

ku wasn't anything close to 9 wins last year. mu game should have been a loss, cu and isu weren't blowouts either. usf was close, but that one makes sense. usf was lame last year.

9 wins is a big deal, ku was hardly a 9 win ball club.

[BMWJhawk]

Now, did ku fans expect the '08 team to be better than 8-5?  I'd say most ku fans would have predicted 9-4 or 10-3 if you include the bowl game.  ku was actually pretty close to 9-4 if you look at how close that South Florida game was

ku wasn't anything close to 9 wins last year. mu game should have been a loss, cu and isu weren't blowouts either. usf was close, but that one makes sense. usf was lame last year.

9 wins is a big deal, ku was hardly a 9 win ball club.

ku was winning the South Florida game, 24-3.  It was an absolute meltdown in the 3rd quarter that allowed South Florida to come back.  ku should have won that game and been 9-4.  ku dominated most of the Mizzou game as well and was leading Nebraska at halftime in Lincoln.  The Iowa State game was one of those "trap" games that can happen to a team that's not used to winning on the road.

[fatty fat fat]

ku was winning the South Florida game, 24-3.  It was an absolute meltdown in the 3rd quarter that allowed South Florida to come back.  ku should have won that game and been 9-4.  ku dominated most of the Mizzou game as well and was leading Nebraska at halftime in Lincoln.  The Iowa State game was one of those "trap" games that can happen to a team that's not used to winning on the road.

dear god. you two are perfect for each other. 
 

[BMWJhawk]

ku was winning the South Florida game, 24-3.  It was an absolute meltdown in the 3rd quarter that allowed South Florida to come back.  ku should have won that game and been 9-4.  ku dominated most of the Mizzou game as well and was leading Nebraska at halftime in Lincoln.  The Iowa State game was one of those "trap" games that can happen to a team that's not used to winning on the road.

dear god. you two are perfect for each other. 
 

Go back and watch the games, fats.  I don't see how you can say a team with 8 wins wasn't close to 9 wins, especially when ku was leading that South Florida game, 24-3, at one point.  ku had the ball with a chance to win at the end and Reesing threw an INT.  It was a very close game.  The Mizzou game was crazy as well, but ku dominated the ball (36 minutes to Mizzou's 24) and jumped out to a 26-10 lead.  The ku/Nebraska game was 31-28 (Nebraska) with just over 9 minutes left in the 4th quarter.  It was a pretty close game that might have been different if Reesing wasn't playing injured.  Like I said, ku was close to 9-4 in more ways than one. 

[sonofdaxjones]

I am not bitter at all . . . I just enjoy destroying you on this because the numbers simply don't lie.  You can concoct all the anecdotal information you want about this or that, but the numbers simply are what they are.  No wins over any conference team that finished above .500 in conference play, regular season opponents finished over 20 games below .500, a 77th rated regular season SOS, half the schedule against the worst defenses in college football. .  

I use the regular season because that's how you get to a bowl game right??  Unless you have some other formula that they use.  

What happened the next year when ku played a real schedule . . . 5 losses.   Someday you'll actually admit to yourself that the perfect cupcake storm came together for a good, but not great ku football team.  

In terms of Snyder's scheduling, I've never attempted to deny that he's scheduled very softly.  

Gosh Ben, if only K-State's Center hadn't snapped the ball over Matt Miller's head against CU in 1996, K-State would've won that game and possibly gotten a major bowl bid.   Gosh, if only Russ Campbell had caught that pass in the endzone in Lincoln in 1991, K-State would've upset Nebraska on the road in Snyder's 2nd year at K-State.   Gosh, if only the ref would've called pass interference against Nebraska when they tripped Kevin Lockett streaking wide open down the sidelines, or only if Chad May hadn't thrown 2 INT's against powerhouse CU the next weekend in Boulder, K-State would've won the Big 8 in 1994.    See, we can do that Bull$hit all day long.   

[j@yh@wks]

I am not bitter at all . . . I just enjoy destroying you on this because the numbers simply don't lie.  You can concoct all the anecdotal information you want about this or that, but the numbers simply are what they are.  No wins over any conference team that finished above .500 in conference play, regular season opponents finished over 20 games below .500, a 77th rated regular season SOS, half the schedule against the worst defenses in college football. .  

I use the regular season because that's how you get to a bowl game right??  Unless you have some other formula that they use.  

What happened the next year when ku played a real schedule . . . 5 losses.   Someday you'll actually admit to yourself that the perfect cupcake storm came together for a good, but not great ku football team.  

In terms of Snyder's scheduling, I've never attempted to deny that he's scheduled very softly.  

Gosh Ben, if only K-State's Center hadn't snapped the ball over Matt Miller's head against CU in 1996, K-State would've won that game and possibly gotten a major bowl bid.   Gosh, if only Russ Campbell had caught that pass in the endzone in Lincoln in 1991, K-State would've upset Nebraska on the road in Snyder's 2nd year at K-State.   Gosh, if only the ref would've called pass interference against Nebraska when they tripped Kevin Lockett streaking wide open down the sidelines, or only if Chad May hadn't thrown 2 INT's against powerhouse CU the next weekend in Boulder, K-State would've won the Big 8 in 1994.    See, we can do that Bull$hit all day long.   

If only the ref would have called that facemask.   

[hemmy]

I am not bitter at all . . . I just enjoy destroying you on this because the numbers simply don't lie.  You can concoct all the anecdotal information you want about this or that, but the numbers simply are what they are.  No wins over any conference team that finished above .500 in conference play, regular season opponents finished over 20 games below .500, a 77th rated regular season SOS, half the schedule against the worst defenses in college football. .  

I use the regular season because that's how you get to a bowl game right??  Unless you have some other formula that they use.  

What happened the next year when ku played a real schedule . . . 5 losses.   Someday you'll actually admit to yourself that the perfect cupcake storm came together for a good, but not great ku football team.  

In terms of Snyder's scheduling, I've never attempted to deny that he's scheduled very softly.  

Gosh Ben, if only K-State's Center hadn't snapped the ball over Matt Miller's head against CU in 1996, K-State would've won that game and possibly gotten a major bowl bid.   Gosh, if only Russ Campbell had caught that pass in the endzone in Lincoln in 1991, K-State would've upset Nebraska on the road in Snyder's 2nd year at K-State.   Gosh, if only the ref would've called pass interference against Nebraska when they tripped Kevin Lockett streaking wide open down the sidelines, or only if Chad May hadn't thrown 2 INT's against powerhouse CU the next weekend in Boulder, K-State would've won the Big 8 in 1994.    See, we can do that Bull$hit all day long.  

If only the ref would have called that facemask.  

Lynch mob dude, they wouldn't have scored anyway.

[j@yh@wks]

I am not bitter at all . . . I just enjoy destroying you on this because the numbers simply don't lie.  You can concoct all the anecdotal information you want about this or that, but the numbers simply are what they are.  No wins over any conference team that finished above .500 in conference play, regular season opponents finished over 20 games below .500, a 77th rated regular season SOS, half the schedule against the worst defenses in college football. .  

I use the regular season because that's how you get to a bowl game right??  Unless you have some other formula that they use.  

What happened the next year when ku played a real schedule . . . 5 losses.   Someday you'll actually admit to yourself that the perfect cupcake storm came together for a good, but not great ku football team.  

In terms of Snyder's scheduling, I've never attempted to deny that he's scheduled very softly.  

Gosh Ben, if only K-State's Center hadn't snapped the ball over Matt Miller's head against CU in 1996, K-State would've won that game and possibly gotten a major bowl bid.   Gosh, if only Russ Campbell had caught that pass in the endzone in Lincoln in 1991, K-State would've upset Nebraska on the road in Snyder's 2nd year at K-State.   Gosh, if only the ref would've called pass interference against Nebraska when they tripped Kevin Lockett streaking wide open down the sidelines, or only if Chad May hadn't thrown 2 INT's against powerhouse CU the next weekend in Boulder, K-State would've won the Big 8 in 1994.    See, we can do that Bull$hit all day long.  

If only the ref would have called that facemask.  

Lynch mob dude, they wouldn't have scored anyway.

what?  they kinda scored at will for most of that game didn't they?  what was the final?

[hemmy]

Offense only scored 6 points in 2nd half

[Catmatt]

B-b-b-b-but ... ku!  ku!  ku!  What does Fill Steal know?  ku!  ku!  ku!  Helloooooo!  Other fans on the K-State board wanting attention!  Over here in the corner!  I'm the midget wearing crimson and blue lederhosen and the novelty plastic nose that looks like a penis!  ku!  ku!  Uhhhhhhhh, ku?  Mister, I said ku!  ku, dammit all to hell!  

Hello?  ku?  I said ku.  Hello?

Validate me!  Validate me!  For the love of Gah-ah-ah-ah-ahhhhhhhhd!  Validay-ay-ay-ay-ate meeeeee!

[mcmwcat]

ku was winning the South Florida game, 24-3.  It was an absolute meltdown in the 3rd quarter that allowed South Florida to come back.  ku should have won that game and been 9-4.  ku dominated most of the Mizzou game as well and was leading Nebraska at halftime in Lincoln.  The Iowa State game was one of those "trap" games that can happen to a team that's not used to winning on the road.

dear god. you two are perfect for each other. 
 

vs  

[mcmwcat]

what?  they kinda scored at will for most of that game didn't they?  what was the final?

not really.  you haven't seen "scored at will" until you've watched ksu defense the last 4 years.  nubbs had 30 points with 7 coming from a fumble return.   here's your box:

http://www.huskerpedia.com/games/1998/ksu98.html

[McGrowlTowelZac]

do we have a emoticon for a broken record yet? it should be bmw's sig

[j@yh@wks]

what?  they kinda scored at will for most of that game didn't they?  what was the final?

not really.  you haven't seen "scored at will" until you've watched ksu defense the last 4 years.  nubbs had 30 points with 7 coming from a fumble return.   here's your box:

http://www.huskerpedia.com/games/1998/ksu98.html

Thanks for the box.  I knew it was high scoring for 1998.  I seen on you tube that this was the game that introduced the kats to the world, do you agree with that?

[j@yh@wks]

B-b-b-b-but ... ku!  ku!  ku!  What does Fill Steal know?  ku!  ku!  ku!  Helloooooo!  Other fans on the K-State board wanting attention!  Over here in the corner!  I'm the midget wearing crimson and blue lederhosen and the novelty plastic nose that looks like a penis!  ku!  ku!  Uhhhhhhhh, ku?  Mister, I said ku!  ku, dammit all to hell!  

Hello?  ku?  I said ku.  Hello?

Validate me!  Validate me!  For the love of Gah-ah-ah-ah-ahhhhhhhhd!  Validay-ay-ay-ay-ate meeeeee!

Lol. 

[PowercatPat]

People forget that NU got a free TD on a horrible fumble call. The replay clearly showed that our RB was down before he fumbled and that the ground caused the fumble. Unfortunatley, there was no instant replay back then and there wouldn't be for another 8 years or so. We also do not know if NU would have scored. I think that our defense would have held NU, especially with the extremely loud crowd helping, but we'll never know.