Phil Steele was on 610 this morning, 7-6, at 11am

[Perry]

VT had no business being ranked in the top 10 in the AP poll anyway. They played in the worst conference that season. The ACC was pathetic.

Actually the Pac10 was worse.

Being better than the Pac 10 doesn't say much

[j@yh@wks]

You do understand what "regular season" means right??

You do understand that a Sagarin SOS Score of 74.45 is better than a Sagarin SOS score of 67.78 right??

Per the NCAA official site toughest schedule ranks
ku - 72
USC - 73

You do understand that during the regular season USC played 3 Final Top 25 teams, and that ku played 1 Final Top 25 team right??

Yeah.  
#16, #20, # 25
While ku played #4

You do understand that during the regular season USC played 1 BCS Top 20 team and won, while ku played 1 Final BCS Top 20 and lost right??

yeah, they played #16 and barely won
ku played #4 and lost by 8

To put it better for you
USC played 0 top 15 teams that year and ku played 1

You do understand that during the 2007 season USC played 5 Sagarin Top 30 teams, and ku played 3 Sagarin Top 30 teams right??

So, big difference there, USC LOST to Stanford.  4-8 Stanford.  I shouldn't have to continue from here.  

At the end of the entire season, you understand that USC was 2-0 against Final BCS Top 20 Opponents and ku was 1-1 against Final BCS Top 20 opponents right??

This is where you do your old "lets narrow down the stats to make me right" routine.
USC was 0-0 against top 15 teams.  ku was 1-1 against top 10 teams.

At the end of the entire football season, you do understand that USC was 3-1 vs teams in the AP Final Top 25, while ku was 1-1 vs teams in the AP Final Top 25 right??

I am sure had ku played 4 teams ranked from 16 to 25 they would have won them that year.  But instead they played 2 teams in the top 10 and was 1-1.

By the way.  I just installed my AWD kit for my Xmod.  Should I get ceramic bearings first, or a new chilli motor and evo V2 board first?

[j@yh@wks]

VT had no business being ranked in the top 10 in the AP poll anyway. They played in the worst conference that season. The ACC was pathetic.

Actually the Pac10 was worse.

Being better than the Pac 10 doesn't say much

Says ku probably would have rolled the Pac 10 Champs.  LOL how USC deserved their #3 ranking but VT didn't deserve #9. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Gosh hawks, you don't think there's a difference in playing final Top 25 teams on 3 out of 4 consecutive Saturdays, 2 were true road games.  As opposed to say playing 1 regular season game against a Final Top 25 team at a "neutral site" (just 50 miles from the ku campus) with 40,000 of your own fans in the stands??   Then having nearly 2 months to prepare to play an overrated VT team at another neutral site with another 25,000 or more of your own fans in the stands . . . do you??

I guess you can make far flung extrapolations that ku would've beaten 16-25, but reality says that to date, at no time during the Mangino tenure has ku handled playing good teams in close proximity to each other very well.   Last year was a prime example:  ku played 5 games against final Top 25 teams in 6 weeks and lost 4 of them . . . in the 4 losses, 2 were total blowouts, and the other 2 weren't nearly as close as the resident valdiator in chief tries to claim they were.   The one win was ku's only regular season win over a final top 25 team in the Mangino era.

[j@yh@wks]

Gosh hawks, you don't think there's a difference in playing final Top 25 teams on 3 out of 4 consecutive Saturdays, 2 were true road games.  As opposed to say playing 1 regular season game against a Final Top 25 team at a "neutral site" (just 50 miles from the ku campus) with 40,000 of your own fans in the stands??   Then having nearly 2 months to prepare to play an overrated VT team at another neutral site with another 25,000 or more of your own fans in the stands . . . do you??

I guess you can make far flung extrapolations that ku would've beaten 16-25, but reality says that to date, at no time during the Mangino tenure has ku handled playing good teams in close proximity to each other very well.   Last year was a prime example:  ku played 5 games against final Top 25 teams in 6 weeks and lost 4 of them . . . in the 4 losses, 2 were total blowouts, and the other 2 weren't nearly as close as the resident valdiator in chief tries to claim they were.   The one win was ku's only regular season win over a final top 25 team in the Mangino era.

yeah the fact is the pac 10 of 07 was a weak conference.  You had one good team and 3 mediocre teams that smashed the lower teams in that conference.  All I said was ku played a better strength of schedule compared to usc and was better that year than USC and the NCAA agrees ku 72 USC 73.  ku's FBS opponents that year were .492 in winning % while USC's opponents win % was .486.  You say numbers don't lie, well there you go.  USC also lost to 4-8 Stanford. 

So with a SOS of 72 ku was 12 - 1 with a loss to #4 Moo and a victory over #9 VT while with a SOS of 73 USC was 11-2 with a loss to #20 Oregon and their bad loss to 4-8 Stanford, their best win was #16 Illinois, how'd they do against the top 15?  They didn't have to play any.  With USC's schedule ku probably would have been 12-0 and PAC10 Champs. 

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah . . . I mean ku played one Final Top 25 team during the 2007 regular season . . . and lost, I can see your point.      And that was with half the place being ku fans. 

[j@yh@wks]

Yeah . . . I mean ku played one Final Top 25 team during the 2007 regular season . . . and lost, I can see your point.      And that was with half the place being ku fans. 

USC lost to stanford.  I guess you must think stanford is some big football powerhouse.

[sonofdaxjones]

Yeah . . . I mean ku played one Final Top 25 team during the 2007 regular season . . . and lost, I can see your point.      And that was with half the place being ku fans. 

USC lost to stanford.  I guess you must think stanford is some big football powerhouse.

When you spend all your time as THE TEAM to beat, it happens . . .look at 2007 to 2008 at ku, ku had plenty of attention, and lost 5 games.

[j@yh@wks]

Yeah . . . I mean ku played one Final Top 25 team during the 2007 regular season . . . and lost, I can see your point.      And that was with half the place being ku fans. 

USC lost to stanford.  I guess you must think stanford is some big football powerhouse.

When you spend all your time as THE TEAM to beat, it happens . . .look at 2007 to 2008 at ku, ku had plenty of attention, and lost 5 games.

but not to any team the caliber of stanford.  I just think it's funny that USC had an easier SOS but yet they where somehow "the team to beat" after losing numerous times in games they shouldn't have lost.  You don't see Florida losing to those kind of teams.

[sonofdaxjones]

I guess you missed the Florida-Ol' Miss game in the Swamp last year.

Hey, I am not a big fan of USC, but the reality is, they played more good teams than ku, and as I said, Mangino's track record when having to play multiple good teams in quick succession is abysmal, ku played 5 ranked teams in 6 weeks last year and went 1-4 . . . that's just one example.   So I am just not buying that ku would have won those games . . . and won't until Mangino proves his teams can take on good teams in rapid succession and win the majority of those games, including having some of those games be true road games. 

[Guscat]

Part of Phil Steele's assessment of ku was their poor road record, especially conference games.  I guess ku was 1 - 4 for true road games (Arrowhead was more of a neutral site, despite the awesome game played there against Mizzou).  ku has 5 conference road games this year, and ku fans think Colorado will be crappy (they won't), and KSU will be crappy (unknown).  I think the Jayhawks can kiss their ass goodbye in Austin, and in Lubbock.  Mizzou, when ku plays them late in the season, will have had a talented roster that's played 10 or 11 games to build experience, so I think Jayhawk fans underestimate them at their own risk.  So, I like ku teams, think their fans suck, and believe the football squad has a tough row to hoe in 2009.

Go 'Cats!

[mcmwcat]

just listened to Petro and Steele's segment from the other day.  i feel like my brain is a lot bigger.  granted it was tiny like a tRex's to begin with.  but now i feel like a Raptor.

http://www.stationcaster.com/player.php?s=26&c=373&f=29470

[j@yh@wks]

Part of Phil Steele's assessment of ku was their poor road record, especially conference games.  I guess ku was 1 - 4 for true road games (Arrowhead was more of a neutral site, despite the awesome game played there against Mizzou).  ku has 5 conference road games this year, and ku fans think Colorado will be crappy (they won't), and KSU will be crappy (unknown).  I think the Jayhawks can kiss their ass goodbye in Austin, and in Lubbock.  Mizzou, when ku plays them late in the season, will have had a talented roster that's played 10 or 11 games to build experience, so I think Jayhawk fans underestimate them at their own risk.  So, I like ku teams, think their fans suck, and believe the football squad has a tough row to hoe in 2009.

Go 'Cats!

I don't hate Phil Steele, i think he has HFBIQ and does a great assessment.  That being said, he did call for ku to finish 4th in 07, even with the schedule ku had.  There is nothing wrong with thinking ku will struggle on the road, until they prove otherwise this will always cause people to doubt them when they have a tough schedule.  I believe this year is more important than last year in terms of seeing where our program is and where it is headed.  I still stand by my prediction of 11-1 or 10-2.  Only losses to south teams.  Yeah it's a bit homer of me, but i think the D is going to be vastly improved which will be troubling for other teams.

[Guscat]

11-1?  10-2?   Try 7-5.  Dream on.  Yes, you are a homer.

[j@yh@wks]

11-1?  10-2?   Try 7-5.  Dream on.  Yes, you are a homer.

i am, but i still believe it.  who are the 5 losses?

[steve dave]

man, this thread really snowballed

[cyclist]

man, this thread really snowballed

True dat.  Classy bastages !

[PowercatPat]

I'd say ku goes 8-4 with losses to OU, TT, UT, and one from either MU, NU, or KSU. Keep dreaming of 11-1 or 10-2.

[nfl13]

Hey Loser.......one thing PS didn't factor in are injuries and that Little Midget of a QB  at GayU is due to get blowin up some time this year........he's been lucky...in fact....the whole Damn team has been lucky w/ injuries....better hope your luck doesn't run out........................

apparently you didn't watch many ku games last year.

The Midget better stay healthy....just sayin..................

[j@yh@wks]

I'd say ku goes 8-4 with losses to OU, TT, UT, and one from either MU, NU, or KSU. Keep dreaming of 11-1 or 10-2.

I do not think they lose any North games and takes 1 possibly 2 from the south.  Keep dreaming that KSU can hang with ku this year.

[j@yh@wks]

Hey Loser.......one thing PS didn't factor in are injuries and that Little Midget of a QB  at GayU is due to get blowin up some time this year........he's been lucky...in fact....the whole Damn team has been lucky w/ injuries....better hope your luck doesn't run out........................

apparently you didn't watch many ku games last year.

The Midget better stay healthy....just sayin..................

He beat moo and almost unl while he was nursing some injuries.  Kid is tough no matter how sparkly he looks.

[sonofdaxjones]

Gotta admit . . . the resident validators are trying to cash in a lot of chips early this year.

They've pretty much already crowned themselves Big 12 Champions in Football and National Champions in basketball.

[Guscat]

I'd say ku goes 8-4 with losses to OU, TT, UT, and one from either MU, NU, or KSU. Keep dreaming of 11-1 or 10-2.

I'd add a loss at Colorado.  They will not be the '07 Buffs.  The '08 Buffs, according to Phil Steele, only missed bowl eligbility by a 57 yd Nebraska field goal in the NU-Colorado game.  Steele ranked both CU lines top 40.

ku could lose more than 1 from the NU, MU, KSU games.

Call it 7-5.

[nfl13]

Hey Loser.......one thing PS didn't factor in are injuries and that Little Midget of a QB  at GayU is due to get blowin up some time this year........he's been lucky...in fact....the whole Damn team has been lucky w/ injuries....better hope your luck doesn't run out........................

apparently you didn't watch many ku games last year.

The Midget better stay healthy....just sayin..................

He beat moo and almost unl while he was nursing some injuries.  Kid is tough no matter how sparkly he looks.

Better hope Fat A** can keep him out of the Bars................

[Bookie Pimp]

How can you blame a missed tackle on Clint Bowen?  Players have been learning how to tackle since pee wee football.  The coaches work on fundamentals during the off-season, but you're naive if you think ku practices tackling formation on a regular basis. 

At the D-1 level, the players are required to practice and play at 100% all of the time.     

Wow... clearly bentard has not played much football at ANY level by the looks of this post.  The two most fundamental skills in football are blocking and tackling.  BOTH are practiced DAILY by teams at ALL levels from pee-wee to the NFL.

Now, with that said, to think that collegiate and NFL players always practice all skills, drills, and scrimmaged plays at 100% is as ludicrous as it is assinine.   You'd have everybody hurt by the third week of the season if you practiced "100% all of the time".

No charge.

 

[j@yh@wks]

Gotta admit . . . the resident validators are trying to cash in a lot of chips early this year.

They've pretty much already crowned themselves Big 12 Champions in Football and National Champions in basketball.

If you look at my past posts I've never guaranteed any of the above.  I think we will play in the B12CG but I am not expecting a win in it.  As for bball?  Who knows with some of the clowns (henry's) and their dad's mouth.  Could implode, could win it all. 

[snauzages]

almost beat unl...hee hee. No he didnt, silly

[lynchmobrules]

Gotta admit . . . the resident validators are trying to cash in a lot of chips early this year.

They've pretty much already crowned themselves Big 12 Champions in Football and National Champions in basketball.

If you look at my past posts I've never guaranteed any of the above.  I think we will play in the B12CG but I am not expecting a win in it.  As for bball?  Who knows with some of the clowns (henry's) and their dad's mouth.  Could implode, could win it all. 

So what makes you think that uk will win one of those three games (vs. south opponents) during the regular season, but couldn't beat them in the B12CG?

[j@yh@wks]

Hey Loser.......one thing PS didn't factor in are injuries and that Little Midget of a QB  at GayU is due to get blowin up some time this year........he's been lucky...in fact....the whole Damn team has been lucky w/ injuries....better hope your luck doesn't run out........................

apparently you didn't watch many ku games last year.

The Midget better stay healthy....just sayin..................

He beat moo and almost unl while he was nursing some injuries.  Kid is tough no matter how sparkly he looks.

Better hope Fat A** can keep him out of the Bars................

WTF are you talking about

[j@yh@wks]

Gotta admit . . . the resident validators are trying to cash in a lot of chips early this year.

They've pretty much already crowned themselves Big 12 Champions in Football and National Champions in basketball.

If you look at my past posts I've never guaranteed any of the above.  I think we will play in the B12CG but I am not expecting a win in it.  As for bball?  Who knows with some of the clowns (henry's) and their dad's mouth.  Could implode, could win it all. 

So what makes you think that uk will win one of those three games (vs. south opponents) during the regular season, but couldn't beat them in the B12CG?

I think the team (or one of the teams) that beats ku from the south will also beat them in the B12CG.  I am pretty sure it will not be TT.