review the first two pages of this thread....and then comprehend the idea of BMW coming to this board today to hindsight the idea of Mark Mangino as a decent coach. 
Mangino is a "decent" coach. He's just not the coach to take ku to the next level.
so now you think Mangino can't win the North?
Ya see what I'm getting at?
I expected ku to win the North this year. Yes. You got me.

fine..then you define "next level". Your words.
BCS bowl wasn't enough so what is next level in your view?
how 'bout more than 1 conference win in a year you were almost ranked TOP 10. I'm sure you remember bragging about your ranking after beating Duke, UTEP, and USM, right?
The next level is doing better than 6-6/7-5 more than once every eight years.
That's what Mangino was doing.
4-7
6-6
12-1 check (beat KSU, NU...won BCS bowl...no parking attendant stores. No player abuse stories)
8-5 check (beat MU, won bowl...no parking attendant stores. No player abuse stories)
5-7 (Got beat by a 70 year old with a grind it out offense..lmao.) Mangion FIRED
I see a pattern.