Still Getting Heat from Ron's Firing

[bigboiksu]

And this crap came from Charles Barkley don't throw us under the bus cause you alma mater made a fracked up decision on Chizik:

"My biggest problem with the black coaches is they're not getting jobs and they're getting [expletive] jobs when they are hired," Barkley said. "They're not getting good jobs. They're not getting jobs where they can be successful. That's why I wanted Turner to get the Auburn job. He could win consistently at Auburn. You can't win consistently at New Mexico. You can't win consistently at Kansas State. He could have won at Auburn."

[SUPERKSUFAN]

 

[McGrowlTowelZac]

Hey, as long as someone's talking about us.  Bad publicity is still publicity.

[jmlynch1]

He has always been and always will be my favorite basketball player of all time.

[bigboiksu]

I guess so but really charles barkley come on now he can say whatever he wants about college basketball but football.......

[steve dave]

CHARLES BARKLEY KNOWS WHO WE ARE! 

[bam8485]

 Does Barkley know who Snyder is? I think we won with consistency under him before but im no charles Barkley, so who knows.

[pufizzle]

Exactly how many schools can you win consistently?

4? 5?    

USC
UT
OU
tOSU

 

[sonofdaxjones]

I like Charles.

But is he really saying that all black coaches should get nothing but elite or near elite head coaching jobs?? 

[steve dave]

I think this is plenty of evidence to add Charles to the KSU Super Fan Celebrity list 

[sonofdaxjones]

I think this is plenty of evidence to add Charles to the KSU Super Fan Celebrity list 

I think that pretty much goes without saying don't you?? 

[JTKSU]

I like Charles.

But is he really saying that all black coaches should get nothing but elite or near elite head coaching jobs?? 

The New Mexicos and Kansas States of the world are fine jobs for white dudes, but black dudes deserve elite jobs, at places where it's easy to win.  This in no way resembles racism to me.

[KCcat28]

Any college can win consistently if you have a coach that loves the program and he is good and committed... then you are going to be winners for awhile (i.e. Kstate under Snyder and now Texas Tech under Leach.)  What he said sort of makes sense but really some coaches just don't fit with certain programs. Prince didn't fit with Kstate people just need to get over it.

[yosh]

Imagine that...Barkley went to Auburn.  Homer.   

[bigboiksu]

Being a Black man and a KState far I would agree in part with charles and all considering their is 4 coaches but I think the issue is that none of the mid majors are giving these guys and chance as well as black coaches gotta be willing to play the game like Gill has go to a mid major school have some success and then you will be on the radar of big time schools cause you have experience and your not just some ok coordinator with no HC experience (insert RON HERE)

[hemmy]

I wish teams gave more white guys scholarships 

[opcat]

Funny how no one in the media brings up  that blacks have more than half of the jobs in the (edit)ncaa and nfl.

Instead we are hearing how evil whitey is being bad again.

The affirmative action parade will never end until people with backbones stand up to it.

[ArchE_Cat]

being a mexican (sapniard) and a K-Statriot (), I have to ask where are all the latino HCs? MJ, perhaps you can shed some light on this. Have all of our homies given up on futbol de americano and gone back to roofing/construction   Jessie Tetuan sure didn't help out our cause any.

[Jeffrey_Martin]

Funny how no one in the media brings up  that blacks have more than half of the jobs in the nfl.

Instead we are hearing how evil whitey is being bad again.

The affirmative action parade will never end until people with backbones stand up to it.

Fight the power. 

[McLovin]

The comparisons to the NFL are ridiculous.  It's two different games.  For one, the NFL has done a much better job of preparing minority coaches for success.  Has the NCAA ever had a program like the NFL's minority coaching internships?  Look at all the coaches that got their start in the NFL through the minority programs- Dungy, Marvin Lewis, Lovie Smith, Ron Rivera, Mike Tomlin, etc.

The problem isn't that universities aren't doing enough, it's that the NCAA DIDN'T do enough 20 years ago to lay the groundwork like the NFL did.

And don't tell me that the "Rooney Rule" is the reason for the disparity between NFL and College.  The "Rooney Rule" doesn't mean teams HAVE to hire minority coaches, only that they need to be considered.  It's all about establishing programs to give young coaches opportunities as position coaches, then allowing them to grow.  NCAA has been a failure at this.

[catdude33]

Didn't that one dude lose horribly at ND.  That's a pretty elite job.

[bigboiksu]

what's your take on it j mart ?

[KSt8er]

I wonder why he didn't suggest that AU hire Ron, since he's already had a BCS HC position and was fired only because he was at the wrong school?   

[connwildcat]

charles barkley..........racist.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxuynicf9rI
channeling ron burgundy

[steve dave]

Why does everyone here meltdown when someone brings up race in relation to anything?   

[yosh]

Funny how no one in the media brings up  that blacks have more than half of the jobs in the nfl.

Instead we are hearing how evil whitey is being bad again.

The affirmative action parade will never end until people with backbones stand up to it.

Fight the power. 

 

[catdude33]

Why does everyone here meltdown when someone brings up race in relation to anything?   

Because there are a ton of K-State fans who are so retarded that they actually believe that white people are the one's who are discriminated against.

[dccat]

My biggest problem with Barkley's comments is that he put it like we did a disservice to blacks.  Ok, sorry Charlie, we shouldn't have hired Ron because there was a good chance he could fail and then everybody everywhere would think that black coaches will fail.  I'm sure he didn't mean to, but he basically slapped k-state, and coach snyder for that matter, in the face.

[Bullfn33]

Dorrell couldn't win at UCLA. Willingham couldn't win at Notre Dame or Washington. Sometimes a guy just can't coach and it has nothing to do with where he is or what color he is. Great coaches will be successful wherever they are. It sounds to me like Barkley is making excuses for the ones that fail at harder places to win but at the same time ignoring the ones that fail at very good jobs. Black coaches, like white, will weed themselves out. Prince, Willingham, Dorrell, Croom, etc., weeded themselves back to easier courses where some should have started to begin with.

[McLovin]

More to the point of Sir Chuck's comment...

Since 1993-

Auburn- 134-60-1 (69% winning percentage)
Kansas State- 135-62-1 (68% winning percentage)

 

Has anyone ever been paid so well to talk out their @ss as Sir Chuck?