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Author Topic: Still Getting Heat from Ron's Firing  (Read 4851 times)

December 16, 2008, 06:28:33 PM
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:nono: FU Charles Barkley and anyone else who tries to bring the race card into play after a coach is fired.  RP was fired because he sucked ass, was an arrogant prick, and had lost respect from players, fans, coaches, local HS coaches.....everywhere.  It had nothing to do with race and everything to do with the direction the program was heading.  If he was halfway decent, was able to bring in and keep quality assistants, and was able to produce a team that constistently improved (any decent coach) he would still be here.  He was in way over his head and his ego was so big he couldn't even see it.  If a black coach is successful...he keeps his job. Period.  If any coach is successful he keeps his job. Period.  No race issue at all...it's about doing the job you are hired to do, and achieving the desired results.




Ron lost his job because he lost those donor dollars...

Now why that is, I do not know for sure, but can speculate: high expectations at KSU following the Godfather's tenure, the belief that Ron may never win at the level Bill did, or the potentially personal feelings of discomfort of donors with Ron.

Either way the man could not keep a coaching staff together for even two seasons. Not good when you are a greenhorn like Ron. This is the major reason donor's lost faith and the commonly held belief that he could not get us back to the big time developed.

The policy that got Ron the interview - a good thing no doubt. The decision to hire him - not such a good idea.

The other major issue is that minority coaches are not around as coordinator's, positions where they could learn to be a good head coach.


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December 16, 2008, 06:46:03 PM
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:nono: FU Charles Barkley and anyone else who tries to bring the race card into play after a coach is fired.  RP was fired because he sucked ass, was an arrogant prick, and had lost respect from players, fans, coaches, local HS coaches.....everywhere.  It had nothing to do with race and everything to do with the direction the program was heading.  If he was halfway decent, was able to bring in and keep quality assistants, and was able to produce a team that constistently improved (any decent coach) he would still be here.  He was in way over his head and his ego was so big he couldn't even see it.  If a black coach is successful...he keeps his job. Period.  If any coach is successful he keeps his job. Period.  No race issue at all...it's about doing the job you are hired to do, and achieving the desired results.




Ron lost his job because he lost those donor dollars... Because he's a arrogant prick

Now why that is, I do not know for sure, but can speculate: high expectations at KSU following the Godfather's tenure, the belief that Ron may never win at the level Bill did, or the potentially personal feelings of discomfort of donors with Ron.

Either way the man could not keep a coaching staff together for even two seasons. Because he's a arrogant prick Not good when you are a greenhorn like Ron. This is the major reason donor's lost faith and the commonly held belief that he could not get us back to the big time developed.

The policy that got Ron the interview - a good thing no doubt. The decision to hire him - not such a good idea.

The other major issue is that minority coaches are not around as coordinator's, positions where they could learn to be a good head coach. He was a coordinator at Virginia. Sure didnt seem to help him much.


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December 16, 2008, 07:17:50 PM
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How many years as the O-Coord. at UVA?

December 16, 2008, 10:07:00 PM
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“My biggest problem with the black coaches is they’re not getting jobs and they’re getting (expletive) jobs when they are hired,” Barkley said. “They’re not getting good jobs. They’re not getting jobs where they can be successful. That’s why I wanted Turner to get the Auburn job. He could win consistently at Auburn. You can’t win consistently at New Mexico. You can’t win consistently at Kansas State. He could have won at Auburn.”

Just see my letter to "First Take" for my response to this
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December 16, 2008, 10:08:41 PM
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December 16, 2008, 10:10:02 PM
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That being said...Auburn should have taken a harder look at Gill b/c I think that could have been a good fit.
No, it couldn't have been a good fit. Because, well, Auburn fans are racist.

December 16, 2008, 10:10:09 PM
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December 16, 2008, 10:10:40 PM
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“My biggest problem with the black coaches is they’re not getting jobs and they’re getting (expletive) jobs when they are hired,” Barkley said. “They’re not getting good jobs. They’re not getting jobs where they can be successful. That’s why I wanted Turner to get the Auburn job. He could win consistently at Auburn. You can’t win consistently at New Mexico. You can’t win consistently at Kansas State. He could have won at Auburn.”

Just see my letter to "First Take" for my response to this

Yeah.  Someone posted his comments yesterday.  You would think that CB would be thinking about calling 1-800 bets off or working on his crappy golf swing instead of running his fat mouth about $hit.  

December 16, 2008, 10:11:03 PM
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December 16, 2008, 10:12:14 PM
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You're going to have to be more specific. I've had so many.

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December 16, 2008, 10:13:16 PM
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December 16, 2008, 10:15:35 PM
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I love Catsfan20052006. He's got "the stuff."

I don't know whether to be :blush: or :ohno:
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December 16, 2008, 10:19:14 PM
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December 16, 2008, 10:21:44 PM
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December 16, 2008, 10:22:35 PM
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December 16, 2008, 10:27:03 PM
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December 16, 2008, 10:30:32 PM
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He's got my vote! This is quality stuff, keep it up cf0506!

December 16, 2008, 10:38:29 PM
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What if Grambling hired a white head coach  :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno: :ohno:
Norfolk St. and Delaware St. both have had white coaches.

December 16, 2008, 10:39:23 PM
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interesting that "jmlynch" is a cf05-06 fan.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

December 16, 2008, 11:13:56 PM
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December 16, 2008, 11:19:56 PM
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December 16, 2008, 11:27:32 PM
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How about win at OU.

Barkley = dumb as rocks.

Still waiting on chickensh** media to call him out.  How about someone in our local press.  This is your chance to get some mainstream pub.  Call him for what he is.

December 17, 2008, 12:18:42 AM
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December 17, 2008, 06:49:10 AM
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I love, love, love 0506 fwiw. The board would be much less entertaining w/out him. 99% of posters (me included) could go away and no one would notice. Don't let these guys get ya down 0506.  :eyeseeyou:

December 17, 2008, 08:23:48 AM
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That's for the support. It's not easy to try to keep this place going in a productive manner. I was a tad behind yesterday, I didn't have the best day, so if I was behind on my information that's why. Doesn't make it right.....But that's why.
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December 17, 2008, 10:44:53 AM
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December 17, 2008, 11:00:05 AM
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December 17, 2008, 11:02:54 AM
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That's for the support. It's not easy to try to keep this place going in a productive manner. I was a tad behind yesterday, I didn't have the best day, so if I was behind on my information that's why. Doesn't make it right.....But that's why.

yeah, keep up the good work buddy, thanks for the updates.  They are appreciated.

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December 17, 2008, 01:06:46 PM
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That's for the support. It's not easy to try to keep this place going in a productive manner. I was a tad behind yesterday, I didn't have the best day, so if I was behind on my information that's why. Doesn't make it right.....But that's why.

No need to apoligize or explain yourself to these tards, just keep on truckin on bro  :Driving:

December 17, 2008, 01:14:23 PM
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Chuck is 100% right on this.

50% at best.  Probably should have been Gill, but it seems to me that the reason Chizik was hired was that he used to coach there and was bff's with the ad.