ku had a far better class than KSU for 2008 when you consider who qualifies and who actually shows up on campus. For ku, which has recruited lower numbers that K-State, everyone of the last two classes has showed up on campus. KSU - which lost 30% of the 2007 signed class by the time September rolled around looks like the 2008 class will be more of the same. Just saw where Tony Gillespie, the Freshman DT won't be in Manhattan. How many 19 Juco's won't make it onto campus this fall? It's going to get really ugly over the next few months.