not too sure what ksuguy9 is talking about. they were better than 4-8, i'm pretty sure they were bowl winners at 8-4 last season and only lost to Boise State by 3. true, they did lose their 2 leading wide receivers, but they had a ton of guys see action so i don't know if they'll be terrible the position (don't forget their running backs are versatile enough to go deep out of the backfield as well). personally, their defense doesn't look too shabby in my eyes. besides lowery, the all-american cornerback, justin cole and jarron gilbert look young and quick at defensive end, and matt castelo is the nation's returning career average tackler. overall, they're going to be athletic and fast and will push us. let's see how they open at Arizona State- then we can figure out how worried we should be.