Brian Butler

[stormnut]

Let our recurits go!!!!

[thedot]

Seriously, one does have to wonder...

what's the guy's credentials?

[stormnut]

what's the guy's credentials?

[michigancat]

Even if we don't get the Browns (like they'd be a slam dunk without BB in the picture, LOL), a successful Brian Butler is a long term positive for KSU. 

He's basically an AAU coach, and AAU coaches are good.

[WorldWideBalla21]

Don't worry, Franklin already told Butler to frack off!

[catzacker]

Even if we don't get the Browns (like they'd be a slam dunk without BB in the picture, LOL), a successful Brian Butler is a long term positive for KSU. 

He's basically an AAU coach, and AAU coaches are good.

QFT.  But from some of the things that have been said/alleged, we have opted to not "work" with Butler. 

[michigancat]

Even if we don't get the Browns (like they'd be a slam dunk without BB in the picture, LOL), a successful Brian Butler is a long term positive for KSU. 

He's basically an AAU coach, and AAU coaches are good.

QFT.  But from some of the things that have been said/alleged, we have opted to not "work" with Butler. 

It sounds like things improved (joking w/ coaches @ KSU camp).

I forgot to mention that having a healthy relationship with Butler is necessary, but figured it was obvious.

[steve dave]

Do you think he got ahold of Broderick Smith only after we offered?

[michigancat]

Do you think he got ahold of Broderick Smith only after we offered?

You're asking me?

Like I know.

[steve dave]

Do you think he got ahold of Broderick Smith only after we offered?

You're asking me?

No, I'm asking society.

[Fausto]

"He's basically an AAU coach, and AAU coaches are good."

AAU coaches sort through (censor, really) recruits mail?

[michigancat]

"He's basically an AAU coach, and AAU coaches are good."

AAU coaches sort through (censor, really) recruits mail?

I'm sure lots of them do.  (censor, LOL)

[Fausto]

"I'm sure lots of them do.  (censor, LOL)"

Why sort though mail which isn't yours...and apparently just mail from some (not all) recruits if you are not censoring it?

Where are all the examples of these AAU coaches sorting through mail of prospective recruits?   If you are sure, I am sure there are numerous examples.

[fatty fat fat]

WE LOVE BRIAN! BUTLER!

[michigancat]

"I'm sure lots of them do.  (censor, LOL)"

Why sort though mail which isn't yours...and apparently just mail from some (not all) recruits if you are not censoring it?

Arthur Brown asks you to?  Where did you read that Butler sorts the mail anyway?

Where are all the examples of these AAU coaches sorting through mail of prospective recruits?   If you are sure, I am sure there are numerous examples.

I couldn't find any specific examples, but I couldn't find an article that said Butler was sorting Brown's mail, either (see above).

Either way, how is sorting junk mail significantly different from AAU coaches receiving phone calls from college coaches?

[WorldWideBalla21]

FATTYY WE LOVES BRIAN! BUTLER!

[Fausto]

From the Wichita Eagle and everyone's favorite sports writer...Jeffrey Martin!

]http://www.810whb.com/scripts/archives/getstory.asp?article=14964&string=noSearch]

"He receives recruiting mail addressed to the Browns."

Addressed to the Browns.  Key words.  Sure, I don't see anything saying the Browns don't have any problem with that.  They may not.  That's really not my point.  Your next question really leads me to that point however.

"Either way, how is sorting junk mail significantly different from AAU coaches receiving phone calls from college coaches?"

Junk mail?  All of this mail is recruiting related, it's not the Piggly Wiggly circular.  So, who determines what the *junk* is?  Butler, not Brown?  Or, Brown not Butler?  Sounds to me like Butler make the determination for mail which is not addressed to him.  I believe it should be up to the recipient of the mail to determine what is junk, and what is not.

Rusty, I don't believe there is a significant difference than an AAU coach receiving a phone call (a junk phone call, as you term it apparently) and mail addressed to them.  If they jump on the recruits phone and take the call...then I have a problem.

How much mail has been dismissed by Butler (even though it was addressed to the Browns) as junk?

[michigancat]

From the Wichita Eagle and everyone's favorite sports writer...Jeffrey Martin!

]http://www.810whb.com/scripts/archives/getstory.asp?article=14964&string=noSearch]

"He receives recruiting mail addressed to the Browns."

Addressed to the Browns.  Key words.  Sure, I don't see anything saying the Browns don't have any problem with that.

That's poorly written.  It sounds, to me, like the mail is being simply sent to Butler's (Potential Players') address w/ Arthur or Bryce's name on it, like this:

Arthur Brown
c/o Potential Players
1 Brian Butler Way
Wichita, KS

It doesn't say anything about him "sorting" it.  Anything we infer beyond that is blind speculation on our part.

Junk mail?  All of this mail is recruiting related, it's not the Piggly Wiggly circular.  So, who determines what the *junk* is?  Butler, not Brown?  Or, Brown not Butler?  Sounds to me like Butler make the determination for mail which is not addressed to him.

Sounds to me like you're engaging in wild speculation.

I believe it should be up to the recipient of the mail to determine what is junk, and what is not.

So do I.  This doesn't change the fact that a healthy relationship with a successful Butler helps us more than hurts us.

[Saulbadguy]

We should chant Brian Butler's name at football games.

[FBWillie]

It sounds, to me, like the mail is being simply sent to Butler's (Potential Players') address w/ Arthur or Bryant's name on it, like this:

Arthur Brown
c/o Potential Players
1 Brian Butler Way
Wichita, KS

If it were addressed any other way, wouldn't it be a federal offense for butler to throw it away?

P.S. It's Bryce, not Bryant.

[michigancat]

thx

[steve dave]

We should chant Brian Butler's name at football games.

That is a pretty good idea. 

[Pete]

I could give a crap less who handles whose mail.

I just want some confirmation that our coaches are sucking Butler's dick at every available opportuniy.

I agree with Rusty in a way...having the "AAU Coach" role consolidates the contact point for many recruits, versus having to navigate through multiple History Teacher/Football Coaches.  However, if that relationship is not top-notch, this is the worst thing that could ever happen to us.

What I expect to happen, is for Butler to ultimately lean on us to take questionable lower ranked guys in return for his continued favor on the bigger guys.

[Pete]

Let our recurits go!!!!

I like that sig gif.

I hadn't realized that a UT trainer actually smacked Colt in the head with a helmet.  That probably made his injury worse.  Tough break for them on that one.

[FBWillie]

thx

just take it easy on me if I ever flub up some Basketball knowledge.

[Fausto]

"Sounds to me like you're engaging in wild speculation."

Of course it is speculation.  You can term it wild if you like.

I find the excuses made for this amazing.  It's poorly written?  This is coming from the writer this board just virtually can't live without!

Maybe "sorting" isn't the right term.  Why is he receiving mail though?  Do the Brown's not have a mailbox?

"This doesn't change the fact that a healthy relationship with a successful Butler helps us more than hurts us."

What is healthy about the relationship when he impugns the motives of K-State's recrutiing the way he does.  A relationship is a two way street.

[KSU4ME]

...Arthur or Bryant's...

P.S. It's Bryce, not Bryant.

Rusty was just craving some BBQ.

[KSU4ME]

What is healthy about the relationship when he impugns the motives of K-State's recrutiing the way he does.  A relationship is a two way street.

Not when it comes to GATEKEEPER (or J-Mart, come to think of it).

Butler could rape Prince's dog and clean up the dirty with a Power Towel, and Prince had better keep things cool.

Brian Butler is the program, nay, he is BIGGER than the program.  Nothing else matters in the universe 'cept keeping Butler happy.  And if Butler isn't happy, Prince should be fired.

And if you can't figure that out, you're just a PowerTard.
and prolly believe in silly things like point guards in basketball

[michigancat]

I find the excuses made for this amazing.  It's poorly written?  This is coming from the writer this board just virtually can't live without!

How is that an excuse?  It's poorly written because it could be interpreted a lot of ways.  (You making the leap to "censorship", for example).  Do you disagree?

Maybe "sorting" isn't the right term.  Why is he receiving mail though?  Do the Brown's not have a mailbox?

He's receiving mail because coaches recognize Butler as an important figure in their recruitment.  I'm sure the Brown's receive plenty of mail at their house, too.  Colleges send mail directly to high schools...how is sending mail to Potential Players any different?

What is healthy about the relationship when he impugns the motives of K-State's recrutiing the way he does.  A relationship is a two way street.

If his remarks in on KSU's in-state recruiting have any real impact on KSU's recruiting whatsoever, it's on Prince and his staff, not Butler.  Any competent recruiter should be able to work around that easily, and it sounds like the staff has (again, refer to Butler joking with KSU coaches at the KSU camp).

[catzacker]

I hope this turns into a Brian Butler vs. J-mart vs. Ron Prince thread.  We haven't had one of those in about 2 months.