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August 22, 2007, 08:36:25 PM
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what are some cheep hdtv's and over 40 inches?  good ones prefrebaly

August 22, 2007, 08:46:21 PM
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this is an ett if i ever saw one.

I think anything 36 inch is legit imo. what is the "sweet spot" for hdtv's?
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 22, 2007, 08:50:11 PM
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What's cheap to you?  Around $1000?  At that price and size you're looking at 720p/1080i HD (not 1080p), which is probably fine because it's tough to see the difference unless you sit really close or have a 50"+ screen.  

Samsung has some nice 42/46" DLP's.  Sony has a 42" 3LCD projection (similar in size to a DLP).  I've had this one for about a year and love it.  There are probably some 40" LCD or plasmas that don't cost too much more than that.  You can get more if you go off brand, but watch out.

August 22, 2007, 09:00:17 PM
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cheap = 400-600
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 22, 2007, 09:20:27 PM
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What's cheap to you?  Around $1000?  At that price and size you're looking at 720p/1080i HD (not 1080p), which is probably fine because it's tough to see the difference unless you sit really close or have a 50"+ screen. 

Samsung has some nice 42/46" DLP's.  Sony has a 42" 3LCD projection (similar in size to a DLP).  I've had this one for about a year and love it.  There are probably some 40" LCD or plasmas that don't cost too much more than that.  You can get more if you go off brand, but watch out.


i dunno.  good and cheep.

August 22, 2007, 09:40:45 PM
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August 22, 2007, 10:40:17 PM
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piss, are these any good?

i mean, what's the diff? if it shows in hd, it shows in hd? right?

It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 22, 2007, 11:09:43 PM
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no.  there's a couple main things to consider-
A) the type of tv: crt, lcd, plasma, and DLP/projection.  they all vary in picture quality, no reason to buy an HDTV if the picture sux0rs. 

B) the type of hd: 720p, 1080i, 1080p. usually this is a second consideration and money dictates where you end up on this scale.  most people would have a hard time telling you the difference b/w a 720p and a 1080i/p.

the type of room you're putting the tv in should dictate what the answer to A is, how much you have to spend will determine the answer to B.

i've heard good things about the Olevia LCD's-
http://promotions.newegg.com/olevia/080307/index.html




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August 22, 2007, 11:34:33 PM
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There are always a ton of plasma/hdtv's sold on eBay that are still "factor sealed" that are sold really cheap. The only problem is that I doubt you get the warranty with them..

August 23, 2007, 12:21:50 AM
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The "best" HDTVs: 1. CRT (dead and gone for the most part) / plasma (the newest are almost CRT quality), 2. Projection, 3. LCD.  *NO* HDTV will give you the bang-for-the-buck of a decent projection set.  E.g., you can get a pretty solid 57" Toshiba 57HM167 DLP projection set delivered to your place for ~$1300; ditto the 55" Sony KDF-55E2000 LCD projection set; ditto the 56" JVC HD-56FH97 LCOS projection set ... and all three of those are 1080p.  You won't save a ton by stepping down to a 720p projection set so you might as well spend a couple hundred extra and go for 1080p (not many 1080i projection sets out there).  You won't find an LCD or plasma worth owning that's anywhere near those sizes at anywhere near those prices. 

Personally I'd start on your favorite price search engine, sort the delivered prices in the size range you want, then google reviews until I found a good one. 
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August 23, 2007, 11:59:54 AM
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The "best" HDTVs: 1. CRT (dead and gone for the most part) / plasma (the newest are almost CRT quality), 2. Projection, 3. LCD.  *NO* HDTV will give you the bang-for-the-buck of a decent projection set.  E.g., you can get a pretty solid 57" Toshiba 57HM167 DLP projection set delivered to your place for ~$1300; ditto the 55" Sony KDF-55E2000 LCD projection set; ditto the 56" JVC HD-56FH97 LCOS projection set ... and all three of those are 1080p.  You won't save a ton by stepping down to a 720p projection set so you might as well spend a couple hundred extra and go for 1080p (not many 1080i projection sets out there).  You won't find an LCD or plasma worth owning that's anywhere near those sizes at anywhere near those prices. 

Personally I'd start on your favorite price search engine, sort the delivered prices in the size range you want, then google reviews until I found a good one. 

How is the pic quality from projection to LDC or plasma?  OK I'll be serious now, my price range is $700-$1000, and I'd like it to be 40+ inches.  I lot of people here have 36 inch TV's and I just don't think that's big enough for my liking.  My room is like 12 feet long, is that enough for projection?  I dunno, I'd just kind of prefer an LCD.  I looked at wal-mart (don't lol at me, meanies), and they have 42 inches (or was it 47?) for about $900, and I thought it looked OK.

August 23, 2007, 12:24:23 PM
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i was at sears in manhattan yesterday and saw a 40" sony lcd for $900, not sure of resolution. looked like one of those that got returned and they are selling cheap. said it was like a $1900 tv originally. i got my old projection at sears on a deal like this years ago and it still came with the full warranty, i assume this one would too.

August 23, 2007, 12:45:52 PM
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The biggest problems with LCDs are motion blur and crappy black levels that'll drive you nuts in the evening with the lights down low.  Both are significantly better in the new Sony XBR4/5 and Samsung '71 LCDs but then those are like $3k+ for a 40"+ set.  If you buy a cheap LCD you're going to step back a couple of years in technology and IMHO LCDs from a couple of years ago aren't really all that great for television.

By "projection" I mean "rear projection" not "projector and screen".  The only practical difference between a DLP/LCD/LCOS rear projection set and and LCD is that the LCD might be 4-5" thick while the projection set might be 14-16" thick.  A few people but not many (I'm one unfortunatley) see slightly whitish or rainbow artifacts near the center of rear projection TVs.  They're not nearly as annoying as the blurred motion and crappy blacks of 2-3 year old LCD flatscreen technology though and odds are you won't see 'em anyway.  Check out a few in shops and see if you can pick out the slight color variation near the middle of the screen, if not you'll get a far better set for far less money with rear projection versus LCD flatscreen.

12' is a pretty good sized room if the couch is on one wall with the television opposite.  Check out this viewing distance calculator to get an idea of what you need.

And beware comparing sets in the store.  They're typically all set with the contrast and brightness cranked waaaay up to compensate for store lighting which is several times as bright as typical home viewing conditions.  Better to look for smooth motion, lack of artifacts, lack of digital noise, picture sharpness and the like and rely on the reviews for color accuracy and the like.
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August 23, 2007, 12:46:40 PM
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.
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August 23, 2007, 04:10:13 PM
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.

QFT.

I researched this for months and if you're looking to save some money and want to go Plasma get the Vizio VP42 refurbished for about $600.

Google it and you'll find all you ever wanted to know about the product.  If you do buy refurbished make sure you get the extended warranty.


August 23, 2007, 04:14:48 PM
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.

QFT.

I researched this for months and if you're looking to save some money and want to go Plasma get the Vizio VP42 refurbished for about $600.

Google it and you'll find all you ever wanted to know about the product.  If you do buy refurbished make sure you get the extended warranty.



http://www.amazon.com/P42HDTV10A-Definition-Widescreen-Plasma-P42HDTV/dp/B000QGLRXM/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-6122984-6982424?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187903606&sr=8-2

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August 23, 2007, 06:56:34 PM
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.

QFT.

I researched this for months and if you're looking to save some money and want to go Plasma get the Vizio VP42 refurbished for about $600.

Google it and you'll find all you ever wanted to know about the product.  If you do buy refurbished make sure you get the extended warranty.



http://www.amazon.com/P42HDTV10A-Definition-Widescreen-Plasma-P42HDTV/dp/B000QGLRXM/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-6122984-6982424?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187903606&sr=8-2

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That's pretty terrifying.  In your price range I'd go for this:

http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/projection-televisions/m/10462370/

After all, if you're buying two year old technology you might as well have a former product of the year, no?  (http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/news/newsarticle.asp?newsid=102)



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August 23, 2007, 07:24:50 PM
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And if you really have a lot of time to waste check out the AVS Forums for more than you ever wanted to know about home audio and video.

QFT.

I researched this for months and if you're looking to save some money and want to go Plasma get the Vizio VP42 refurbished for about $600.

Google it and you'll find all you ever wanted to know about the product.  If you do buy refurbished make sure you get the extended warranty.



http://www.amazon.com/P42HDTV10A-Definition-Widescreen-Plasma-P42HDTV/dp/B000QGLRXM/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-6122984-6982424?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1187903606&sr=8-2

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That's pretty terrifying.  In your price range I'd go for this:

http://reviews.pricegrabber.com/projection-televisions/m/10462370/

After all, if you're buying two year old technology you might as well have a former product of the year, no?  (http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/news/newsarticle.asp?newsid=102)



Hmmm...actually I think I'd like something that mounted on the wall.  42-46 inch range preferably.  Hmmm...

August 23, 2007, 07:33:56 PM
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Have you priced wall mounts?  That's not a cheap way to go. 
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August 23, 2007, 07:56:55 PM
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Have you priced wall mounts?  That's not a cheap way to go. 

They're just like 50 bucks aren't they?

August 23, 2007, 09:43:40 PM
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Would you really drop a grand on a (very fragile) television and hand it on your wall using the most cheap-ass mount money can buy?   :popcorn:
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August 23, 2007, 10:02:20 PM
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My roomie just got a 42" LG LCD ($1400). I have a 32" Olevia HDTV ($550). If you want a 42", you can get an LCD. I know Best Buy has a 42" plasma for $850. Either way you go, LCD or Plasma, it will still kick ass. Don't buy online. WAY too much hassle. Get it in store with a warranty. Olevia is a good cheap brand. The newest Vizios surprised me as well. My other friend has the 42" Vizio from Walmart ($1000 + $55 for warranty) and it looks just as good as our LG. 

August 23, 2007, 10:09:10 PM
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My roomie just got a 42" LG LCD ($1400). I have a 32" Olevia HDTV ($550). If you want a 42", you can get an LCD. I know Best Buy has a 42" plasma for $850. Either way you go, LCD or Plasma, it will still kick ass. Don't buy online. WAY too much hassle. Get it in store with a warranty. Olevia is a good cheap brand. The newest Vizios surprised me as well. My other friend has the 42" Vizio from Walmart ($1000 + $55 for warranty) and it looks just as good as our LG. 

I've read some good reviews on Vizio as well.  They seem to be one of the better bargain brands right now.  Go to cnet.com for lots of great reviews and general HD info.

August 23, 2007, 10:38:13 PM
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is there anyway you can get highdef from your cable provider, and just play it off of your pc?

like, record a show in HD to your dvr, then transfer it to your PC w/o even buying an HDTV.
It is a tragedy because now, we have at least an extra month without Cat football until next year. I hate wasting my life away but I can hardly wait until next year.

August 24, 2007, 02:05:07 AM
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Would you really drop a grand on a (very fragile) television and hand it on your wall using the most cheap-ass mount money can buy?   :popcorn:

psh...i'll just buy another wall mount.

August 24, 2007, 10:02:37 AM
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is there anyway you can get highdef from your cable provider, and just play it off of your pc?

like, record a show in HD to your dvr, then transfer it to your PC w/o even buying an HDTV.

All of the SD channels still broadcast in SD, so you would have no problem viewing them. The guide broadcasts in SD as well. Theoretically it would work (just paying $15 for the HD DVR box).

August 24, 2007, 11:58:40 AM
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is there anyway you can get highdef from your cable provider, and just play it off of your pc?

like, record a show in HD to your dvr, then transfer it to your PC w/o even buying an HDTV.

All of the SD channels still broadcast in SD, so you would have no problem viewing them. The guide broadcasts in SD as well. Theoretically it would work (just paying $15 for the HD DVR box).

All the Cox boxes disable any type of transfer function from their HD boxes.  You can record on their DVR but there is no way to transfer it.  You can buy your own box and sign up for their service though.  Don't know about other cable carriers.
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August 25, 2007, 04:34:59 AM
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Stunner - this chart might help with your decision:

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August 25, 2007, 01:26:55 PM
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So if I'm reading that right unless I have a huge room to watch in I should go as cheap as possible for a 42 inch?

August 25, 2007, 01:42:53 PM
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Azcat- I'm not sure the graph is totally accurate. I can definitely tell HD and SD difference on my 32" from further away.