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June 04, 2007, 07:44:38 AM
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Most overrated director ever.  Good.  Not great.


1967: Who's That Knocking at My Door
1972: Boxcar Bertha
1973: Mean Streets
1974: Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
1976: Taxi Driver
1977: New York, New York
1980: Raging Bull
1983: The King of Comedy
1985: After Hours
1986: The Color of Money
1988: The Last Temptation of Christ
1990: Goodfellas
1991: Cape Fear
1993: The Age of Innocence
1995: Casino
1997: kundun
1999: Bringing Out the Dead
2002: Gangs of New York
2004: The Aviator
2006: The Departed

June 04, 2007, 07:55:29 AM
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Good, not great is a great description.

I'm pretty sure he just got the Oscar for Departed because they want to give him one before he dies.

June 04, 2007, 09:51:17 AM
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Most overrated director ever.  Good.  Not great.


1967: Who's That Knocking at My Door
1972: Boxcar Bertha
1973: Mean Streets
1974: Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore
1976: Taxi Driver
1977: New York, New York
1980: Raging Bull
1983: The King of Comedy
1985: After Hours
1986: The Color of Money
1988: The Last Temptation of Christ
1990: Goodfellas
1991: Cape Fear
1993: The Age of Innocence
1995: Casino
1997: kundun
1999: Bringing Out the Dead
2002: Gangs of New York
2004: The Aviator
2006: The Departed

Sorry but most directors in Hollywood would kill for just one of those movies on that list.  Scorsese has swung and missed a lot but when he connects it's a beautiful thing, seriously...Raging F'n Bull??

I agree with Rusty that The Departed was over blown/hyped and probably didn't deserve the Oscar, although I'm not sure what its competition was last year and don't really care that he won it because I think the f'n oscars are a bunch of self-absorbed hollywood idiots who have no sense of the real world we all live in anyways.


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June 04, 2007, 10:31:33 AM
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I don't remember "Taxi Driver" and haven't seen "Raging Bull."  But even if they are as good as I could imagine them to be, I still don't think he'd live up to the hype.  "Goodfellas" and "Casino" both seem just a little phony and affected to me.  Comparing "Goodfellas" to "The Godfather," for example, would be like comparing Jay Leno to Johnny Carson. 

June 04, 2007, 10:34:06 AM
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June 04, 2007, 10:38:31 AM
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God I hate Jay Leno.

Letterman>>>>>>>>>>>Leno

It's not even close.
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June 04, 2007, 10:41:44 AM
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My initial thought is to hate Leno as well.  He is actually good, not great, though.  Jaywalking and headlines (at least in their heyday) are pretty good bits.

June 04, 2007, 10:42:23 AM
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I hate when he 'explains' his jokes. You know what I mean?
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June 04, 2007, 10:45:39 AM
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So you think it's fair to call Scorsese the most overrated director without having seen two of his most recognized films in "Taxi Driver" and "Raging Bull"?  What else on the list have you not seen?  Hell, I even liked "The Color Of Money".

Comparing anything to "The Godfather" is like comparing anything to "The Godfather", it just doesn't work and isn't fair.  

FWIW Scorsese is working on a documentary on the Stones right now to be released this year.


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June 04, 2007, 10:46:22 AM
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And Leno has grown on me over time and actually has pretty decent writers, but I don't really watch the show.


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June 04, 2007, 10:46:50 AM
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Makes you feel like he is talking down to you, and he probably is to the majority of the world. They  are all probably looking at the size of his chin to listen to him.
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June 04, 2007, 10:50:23 AM
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So you think it's fair to call Scorsese the most overrated director without having seen two of his most recognized films in "Taxi Driver" and "Raging Bull"?  What else on the list have you not seen?  Hell, I even liked "The Color Of Money".

Comparing anything to "The Godfather" is like comparing anything to "The Godfather", it just doesn't work and isn't fair. 

FWIW Scorsese is working on a documentary on the Stones right now to be released this year.

Isn't Tom Cruise in "The Color of Money" and didn't Newman when Best Actor that year.
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June 04, 2007, 10:57:18 AM
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Yes x 2, but the film itself is not generally regarded as one of Scorsese's better works, my point was that maybe I just happen to like his filmmaking style, whatever the hell that is.


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June 04, 2007, 11:00:38 AM
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I hate when he 'explains' his jokes. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I really don't like him at all.

So you think it's fair to call Scorsese the most overrated director without having seen two of his most recognized films in "Taxi Driver" and "Raging Bull"?

I saw one and don't remember that much about it.  Not a good sign.  I do understand that those are his two most acclaimed, but they would just have to be damn good for him to live up to the hype that I can't imagine it.  

Hell, I even liked "The Color Of Money".

Now that you mention it, I do too.  In fact, it is probably underrated.  There's some good stuff in there - like when Newman gets hustled (was that Forest Whitaker?) and is in denial about it.

Comparing anything to "The Godfather" is like comparing anything to "The Godfather", it just doesn't work and isn't fair.

I wouldn't say that it is one of the all-time best movies.  I only chose it based on genre.  And I would say that there are other moves in that genre that should be considered great.

June 04, 2007, 11:33:48 AM
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Ya it was Forrest Whitaker.



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June 04, 2007, 11:34:33 AM
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I wouldn't say that it is one of the all-time best movies.  I only chose it based on genre.  And I would say that there are other moves in that genre that should be considered great.
Like what?


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June 04, 2007, 11:40:47 AM
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leno, lettermen blow.

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gangs of NY was ass-kicking good. IMO.

the departed...= barf

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June 04, 2007, 11:58:49 AM
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i boycotted GONY because of my deep seeded hate for all things Cameron Diaz.


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June 04, 2007, 12:00:11 PM
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link?

i hate her too. damn, i really hate her.

i still like it.
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June 04, 2007, 12:01:29 PM
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June 04, 2007, 01:41:59 PM
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June 04, 2007, 01:43:32 PM
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Back to Scorsese though... Raging bull is one of my Top 25; I've been meaning to watch Taxi driver for a long time now though.   
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June 04, 2007, 01:52:39 PM
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June 04, 2007, 02:02:41 PM
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her and her buddy FatAnnoyingChickFromET need to get on a ganja boat and get lost


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June 04, 2007, 02:20:16 PM
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I wouldn't say that it is one of the all-time best movies.  I only chose it based on genre.  And I would say that there are other moves in that genre that should be considered great.
Like what?

I don't know.  I couldn't really think of any crime dramas that stand out - including Goodfellas.  I know that I'm in the minority regarding Scorsese.  I just don't think he delivers like most people seem to.  I liked watching "Gangs of New York," for example, and there is tons of potential for a great story there, but I think the movie just wasn't a very good one.  Most of all, I hate his glasses.

June 04, 2007, 02:25:13 PM
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imo he lets the story tell itself and doesn't force feed the thing to you like a lot of  guys do.  kinda an older style of storytelling maybe.
you should try to watch raging bull.  if you watch it and don't like how he tells the story then you and he just don't get along.


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June 04, 2007, 02:56:58 PM
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i swear you and chums are the same person.
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June 04, 2007, 06:58:21 PM
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