too soon. JFC. Frank has only had one recruiting class.
jank is a kstate guy and took over a crap illinois state program and made them compete immediatly...and has signed some talent at a level that school has never known. Plus, he's relatively young.
if martin is let go i'd be looking directly at him.
jank is a kstate guy and took over a crap illinois state program and made them compete immediatly...and has signed some talent at a level that school has never known. Plus, he's relatively young.
if martin is let go i'd be looking directly at him.
GMAFB. His team is nothing but juniors and seniors.
http://kenpom.com/team.php?y=2009&team=Illinois%20St.
jank is a kstate guy and took over a crap illinois state program and made them compete immediatly...and has signed some talent at a level that school has never known. Plus, he's relatively young.
if martin is let go i'd be looking directly at him.
GMAFB. His team is nothing but juniors and seniors.
http://kenpom.com/team.php?y=2009&team=Illinois%20St.
i was under the impression that he has gotten some solid commitments from chicago for next year.
Jank being an assistant at ku is a little hard for me to get over still.
Jank being an assistant at ku is a little hard for me to get over still.
I just want what is best for the conference. the better ksu is the better off the rest of the league is and right now ksu is in a position to capitalize on their recent success.
I don't care who the coach is but if ksu fans are wanting martin fired I think jank would be a great hire.
sorry if it's too early but I didn't mean anything negative by this thread.
I just want what is best for the conference. the better ksu is the better off the rest of the league is and right now ksu is in a position to capitalize on their recent success.
I don't care who the coach is but if ksu fans are wanting martin fired I think jank would be a great hire.
sorry if it's too early but I didn't mean anything negative by this thread.
Please don't bring that "Best for the conference" crap in here.
just sayin2nd time in as many seasons you've started this thread. you two must be related or you have a whorish mancrush on the guy, can't blame you HE IS GOOD LOOKING.
just sayin2nd time in as many seasons you've started this thread. you two must be related or you have a whorish mancrush on the guy, can't blame you HE IS GOOD LOOKING.
it's far too early to judge Martin at this point. hell, the guy took us to, and won a game, in the NCAA tourney last year which is more than anyone coaching at K-State for over 20 years.
and if you want to discredit that win because of Beasley and Walker, 2 NBA players, well guess what ku fan, then your NC means crap because it took Seff 6 NBA players to get past Bucknell and Bradley.
too soon. JFC. Frank has only had one recruiting class.
just sayin2nd time in as many seasons you've started this thread. you two must be related or you have a whorish mancrush on the guy, can't blame you HE IS GOOD LOOKING.
it's far too early to judge Martin at this point. hell, the guy took us to, and won a game, in the NCAA tourney last year which is more than anyone coaching at K-State for over 20 years.
and if you want to discredit that win because of Beasley and Walker, 2 NBA players, well guess what ku fan, then your NC means crap because it took Seff 6 NBA players to get past Bucknell and Bradley.
too soon. JFC. Frank has only had one recruiting class.
... and it was the worst in the Big 12 (even with Delonte Hill). Jankovich is a hell of a coach and he can also recruit. I'd hate to see him at K-State.
:ohno:
too soon. JFC. Frank has only had one recruiting class.
... and it was the worst in the Big 12 (even with Delonte Hill). Jankovich is a hell of a coach and he can also recruit. I'd hate to see him at K-State.
:ohno:
recruiting rankings?
wow.
this isn't football. i'll take tyshawn taylor over almost any guard in the country and he was a 3 star until just before signing for ku.
some coaches have a better eye for talent than recruiting service people...crazy huh?
recruiting rankings?one of your more retarded statements on this board. and that's saying something. well done! :lol:
wow.
this isn't football. i'll take tyshawn taylor over almost any guard in the country and he was a 3 star until just before signing for ku.
some coaches have a better eye for talent than recruiting service people...crazy huh?
i'll take tyshawn taylor over almost any guard in the country and he was a 3 star until just before signing for ku.
just sayin2nd time in as many seasons you've started this thread. you two must be related or you have a whorish mancrush on the guy, can't blame you HE IS GOOD LOOKING.
it's far too early to judge Martin at this point. hell, the guy took us to, and won a game, in the NCAA tourney last year which is more than anyone coaching at K-State for over 20 years.
and if you want to discredit that win because of Beasley and Walker, 2 NBA players, well guess what ku fan, then your NC means crap because it took Seff 6 NBA players to get past Bucknell and Bradley.
clams . . . bringing it strong and with extreme validity.
i'll take tyshawn taylor over almost any guard in the country and he was a 3 star until just before signing for ku.
yeah, thats about right. when you sign 6 3 stars, 1 usually turns out to be better than advertised. if self plans to keep recruiting like a nortard, you'll get a handle on the ratios.
ku's bringing in two 5-stars for '09 and possibly one or two more.
ku's bringing in two 5-stars for '09 and possibly one or two more.
i love ku's '09 class. i lol @ their '07 and '08 classes. ku should never recruit that poorly, for any reason.
what's not to love? 3 very good players. i especially like the rebounder dude.
yes, they've missed on a 3 so far, but they still have dece. shots at wall and steph. if they land wall, will be an amazing class.
ku's bringing in two 5-stars for '09 and possibly one or two more.
i love ku's '09 class. i lol @ their '07 and '08 classes. ku should never recruit that poorly, for any reason.
Every single one of those guys would start at K-State.
reed wouldn't start. doubt if taylor would either. (consistently start, obv. they'd get some "i'm mad at sutton" starts).
the only elite player of the bunch is aldrich. and, you know, not really self's fault, but ku gets a ridiculous amount of nothing out of having a player of his ability on the roster. benched behind the deepest team of all time last year and then gone after a throwaway soph year where just getting into the tourney will be a win for kansas.
reed wouldn't start. doubt if taylor would either. (consistently start, obv. they'd get some "i'm mad at sutton" starts).
the only elite player of the bunch is aldrich. and, you know, not really self's fault, but ku gets a ridiculous amount of nothing out of having a player of his ability on the roster. benched behind the deepest team of all time last year and then gone after a throwaway soph year where just getting into the tourney will be a win for kansas.
Little would start if healthy (along w/ Aldrich). let's not be too tardish.
This post has to be a joke, because (1) Tyshawn Taylor makes your guards look like trash [please rewatch ku/K-State game], and (2) because you don't need 6 elite players in one recruiting class in order for it to be a good class. Aldrich is playing like an All-American and both Morningstar and Reed have provided some great minutes this season. Add a couple 5-stars to the mix next season and that team will be Final Four material.
Little would start if healthy (along w/ Aldrich). let's not be too tardish.
:confused:
who said they wouldn't?
Add a couple 5-stars to the mix next season and that team will be Final Four material.
This post has to be a joke, because (1) Tyshawn Taylor makes your guards look like trash [please rewatch ku/K-State game], and (2) because you don't need 6 elite players in one recruiting class in order for it to be a good class. Aldrich is playing like an All-American and both Morningstar and Reed have provided some great minutes this season. Add a couple 5-stars to the mix next season and that team will be Final Four material.
taylor is like ku's version of '07-'08 pullen. fans like him because they expected nothing and he can run up and down the court without falling down (strange how pullen lost the ability to do that this year). in reality, he's done nothing.
no one needs elite players. if ku just wants to be the best of the nortards, then by all means, classes like '08 are the way to go.
lol @ ku in the final four next year btw. stupider than the ksutards that thought ksu had a shot @ the tourney this year.
Add a couple 5-stars to the mix next season and that team will be Final Four material.
BMW, what do you think the odds are on Collins and Aldrich being there next year? (not smack, actual question)
:curse: :mad:
Taylor is nothing at all like Pullen... Don't tell me he's like Pullen.
Aldrich needs another year in college, and has said he plans on coming back next year.
Taylor is nothing at all like Pullen. You just get increasingly more ignorant with each and every post. Taylor is a legit 6'3 and he has long arms. I've seen him throw down an alley oop 'and-one.' Don't tell me he's like Pullen. Second, a team of Collins, Aldrich, Little, Morris', Morningstar, Robinson, Withey, Taylor, Johnson, etc, would be Final Four material. You're insane if you don't see how loaded that team is.
(Pastner (:love:) should be #1).
Hey everyone,
I am new to this forum but have been a friend of coach Jankovich for several years. After talking to him this morning, I mentioned if he would ever consider moving back to kansas for the ksu job if it opened. He mentioned that also he is extremely proud of his alma mater he has no desire to move out of bloomington. Also the ad is a ksu alumn and both plan on staying at isu for several more years. I know ISU can pay them a large salary and the ceo from state farm has offered to donate money to keep coach jank and Dr. Zenger at isu.
Hey everyone,
I am new to this forum but have been a friend of coach Jankovich for several years. After talking to him this morning, I mentioned if he would ever consider moving back to kansas for the ksu job if it opened. He mentioned that also he is extremely proud of his alma mater he has no desire to move out of bloomington. Also the ad is a ksu alumn and both plan on staying at isu for several more years. I know ISU can pay them a large salary and the ceo from state farm has offered to donate money to keep coach jank and Dr. Zenger at isu.
Hey everyone,
I am new to this forum but have been a friend of coach Jankovich for several years. After talking to him this morning, I mentioned if he would ever consider moving back to kansas for the ksu job if it opened. He mentioned that also he is extremely proud of his alma mater he has no desire to move out of bloomington. Also the ad is a ksu alumn and both plan on staying at isu for several more years. I know ISU can pay them a large salary and the ceo from state farm has offered to donate money to keep coach jank and Dr. Zenger at isu.
I think Jank would be great for ksu. Martin is a joke and this little experiment has ran its course. Trying to base your program on one and doners here and there is not sustainable, you need a coach that can coach.
I guess I just don't see the shame in losing in the MVC Championship to Northern Iowa. Jankovich is a good coach, and he can recruit. He's done pretty well in his first couple of years at Illinois State.
He's not as lucky as Frank Martin. He wasn't the beneficiary of a coach bolting and leaving a top five recruiting class. All Frank Martin has done so far is not totally f*ck up a pretty good situation. K-State was an 11-seed last year with Michael Beasley and Bill Walker. This year, K-State is looking at the NIT. Honestly, not that impressive.
He's not as lucky as Frank Martin. He wasn't the beneficiary of a coach bolting and leaving a top five recruiting class.
He's not as lucky as Frank Martin. He wasn't the beneficiary of a coach bolting and leaving a top five recruiting class. All Frank Martin has done so far is not totally f*ck up a pretty good situation. K-State was an 11-seed last year with Michael Beasley and Bill Walker. This year, K-State is looking at the NIT. Honestly, not that impressive.
Jank over Frank would have stank. :yuck:
Jankovich recruited a bunch of talent to ku and Illinois. ku probably would have Willie Warren right now if Jank had stayed.
just think how much attendance ammo ben would have had w stank as our coach
:sweat:
just think how much attendance ammo ben would have had w stank as our coach
:sweat:
Umm....mcmwcat.....stank also rhymes with Frank :ohno: (see yosh post for explanation) :runaway:
reed wouldn't start. doubt if taylor would either. (consistently start, obv. they'd get some "i'm mad at sutton" starts).
the only elite player of the bunch is aldrich. and, you know, not really self's fault, but ku gets a ridiculous amount of nothing out of having a player of his ability on the roster. benched behind the deepest team of all time last year and then gone after a throwaway soph year where just getting into the tourney will be a win for kansas.
This post has to be a joke, because (1) Tyshawn Taylor makes your guards look like trash [please rewatch ku/K-State game], and (2) because you don't need 6 elite players in one recruiting class in order for it to be a good class. Aldrich is playing like an All-American and both Morningstar and Reed have provided some great minutes this season. Add a couple 5-stars to the mix next season and that team will be Final Four material.
i still get a little reverse-emaw when i see oguchi playing.
just fracking graduate already! :curse: glad he lost.
Jank = [(Chris Fowler*Depp)+(Dana Altman-dork_factor)]/(MVC)
I like jank, sorry you guys don't agree. I think KSU would be better off with him than Martin but I know it's not a popular idea with most of you right now.
Jank could do more with the same talent IMO.
I like jank, sorry you guys don't agree. I think KSU would be better off with him than Martin but I know it's not a popular idea with most of you right now.
Jank could do more with the same talent IMO.
I like jank, sorry you guys don't agree. I think KSU would be better off with him than Martin but I know it's not a popular idea with most of you right now.
Jank could do more with the same talent IMO.
big difference is Jank wouldn't have the same talent.
I like jank, sorry you guys don't agree. I think KSU would be better off with him than Martin but I know it's not a popular idea with most of you right now.
Jank could do more with the same talent IMO.
big difference is Jank wouldn't have the same talent.
Jank would have K-State better than 7th place in the Big 12 this season, with losses to Iowa, Baylor, and Oregon.
Jank would have K-State better than 7th place in the Big 12 this season, with losses to Iowa, Baylor, and Oregon.
there is nothing in jankovich's record to suggest that this is true.
Jank would have K-State better than 7th place in the Big 12 this season, with losses to Iowa, Baylor, and Oregon.
there is nothing in jankovich's record to suggest that this is true.
He has Illinois State at the top of the MVC and almost took them to the tourney this year. He's 46-17 in his first two years there... the guy can coach.
He has Illinois State at the top of the MVC and almost took them to the tourney this year. He's 46-17 in his first two years there... the guy can coach.
For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL).
For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL). Frank's recruiting hasn't been all that great... Huggins recruited Beasley/Walker/etc.
Are you kidding? You think recruiting to the Big 12 and MVC are the same?
:lol:
Are you kidding? You think recruiting to the Big 12 and MVC are the same?You clearly think the win-loss record counts the same
:lol:
Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.
Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.
i don't really follow mvc recruiting, but i'm pretty sure that wsu and siu brought in better classes than that.
Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.
i don't really follow mvc recruiting, but i'm pretty sure that wsu and siu brought in better classes than that.
That recruiting class was better than K-State's '08 recruiting class. Not even joking.
Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.
i don't really follow mvc recruiting, but i'm pretty sure that wsu and siu brought in better classes than that.
That recruiting class was better than K-State's '08 recruiting class. Not even joking.
For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL). Frank's recruiting hasn't been all that great... Huggins recruited Beasley/Walker/etc.
For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL). Frank's recruiting hasn't been all that great... Huggins recruited Beasley/Walker/etc.
so your saying frank is better at coaching em up :D
For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL). Frank's recruiting hasn't been all that great... Huggins recruited Beasley/Walker/etc.
I just want what is best for the conference. the better ksu is the better off the rest of the league is and right now ksu is in a position to capitalize on their recent success.
Jank would have K-State better than 7th place in the Big 12 this season, with losses to Iowa, Baylor, and Oregon.
there is nothing in jankovich's record to suggest that this is true.
He has Illinois State at the top of the MVC and almost took them to the tourney this year. He's 46-17 in his first two years there... the guy can coach.
this is getting ugly, where's UMKC fan when BMW needs someone to throw in his towel?
this is getting ugly, where's UMKC fan when BMW needs someone to throw in his towel?
I thought they were one and the same? :dunno:
Don't worry, when Delonte's pipeline dries up, and Frank is fired, Jank might still be available.
Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.
i don't really follow mvc recruiting, but i'm pretty sure that wsu and siu brought in better classes than that.
That recruiting class was better than K-State's '08 recruiting class. Not even joking.
Jank's avg star-1.16
Frank's-2.67 w/ Denis, or 3.33 if you count Kelly instead of Denis. Either way, you're an idiot.
2. Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different. You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.
Don't worry, when Delonte's pipeline dries up, and Frank is fired, Jank might still be available.
2. Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different. You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.
You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC. You can't have it both ways. :dunno:
Enjoy the NIT.
2. Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different. You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.
You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC. You can't have it both ways. :dunno:
No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17).
2. Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different. You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.
You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC. You can't have it both ways. :dunno:
No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17).
2. Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different. You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.
You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC. You can't have it both ways. :dunno:
No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17).
How come you still haven't addressed the most valid comparison out there IMO; former MoValley coaches and their transition to Big 12 basketball compared to Frank. Frank owns them (6-0 head to head!) and it isn't even close.
You are biased toward Jank simply b/c he was at ku. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a fine coach, but there is no guarantee that he could do better than Frank in this league. Perhaps he'll prove me wrong at some point, but based on what I've seen so far from Frank compared to former Valley coaches, I'll take Frank.
2. Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different. You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.
You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC. You can't have it both ways. :dunno:
No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17).
and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history. not bad for aau thug ball :kstatriot:
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yes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)
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Did you just provide a link to this same thread? Weird.
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Did you just provide a link to this same thread? Weird.
no :'byecruelworld:
I didn't really keep up with this thread, and now it's super long. I am certainly not going to take the time to go back and read it. IMO, this thread should be moved to the World Forum so that Mirak and Az can finish it off.
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Did you just provide a link to this same thread? Weird.
no :'byecruelworld:
Well then, color me confused.
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You are slow... Frank's record isn't 6th best in Big 12 history. His winning percentage is 6th best up to this point.
:thumbsup:
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Jank would have Huggins' recruits playing at a higher level.
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Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.
yes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)No it's notyes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)Quote from: mcmwcatand frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history. not bad for aau thug ball :kstatriot:No it's not
Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.
WTF? :confused: No they aren't. Best record = highest winning percentage. There is no other way to measure it. Are you retarded or something? :confused:
your national championship doesn't count either because Seff had Wut?, Chalmers, Rush, and Jackson. let's see you win without good players!! :flush:2. Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different. You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.
You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC. You can't have it both ways. :dunno:
No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17).
and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history. not bad for aau thug ball :kstatriot:
No it's not... his winning percentage is 6th best (LOL) because he's only been at K-State for two years, and inherited Beasley/Walker in his first year.
i would honestly like to hear the difference between winning percentage and win/loss record. :billypopcorn:This is so absurd :lol:WTF? :confused: No they aren't. Best record = highest winning percentage. There is no other way to measure it. Are you retarded or something? :confused:Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.yes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)No it's notyes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)Quote from: mcmwcatand frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history. not bad for aau thug ball :kstatriot:No it's not
perhaps Joe Posnanski will be by to help you sort it outi would honestly like to hear the difference between winning percentage and win/loss record. :billypopcorn:This is so absurd :lol:WTF? :confused: No they aren't. Best record = highest winning percentage. There is no other way to measure it. Are you retarded or something? :confused:Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.yes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)No it's notyes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)Quote from: mcmwcatand frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history. not bad for aau thug ball :kstatriot:No it's not
perhaps Joe Posnanski will be by to help you sort it outi would honestly like to hear the difference between winning percentage and win/loss record. :billypopcorn:This is so absurd :lol:WTF? :confused: No they aren't. Best record = highest winning percentage. There is no other way to measure it. Are you retarded or something? :confused:Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.yes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)No it's notyes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)Quote from: mcmwcatand frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history. not bad for aau thug ball :kstatriot:No it's not
he's still coaching because he, just like Jank, is a great coach. you should check out his winning percentage, it's incredible. don't focus on his win/loss record though, i don't think it tells the whole story to how great of a coach he is.perhaps Joe Posnanski will be by to help you sort it outi would honestly like to hear the difference between winning percentage and win/loss record. :billypopcorn:This is so absurd :lol:WTF? :confused: No they aren't. Best record = highest winning percentage. There is no other way to measure it. Are you retarded or something? :confused:Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.yes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)No it's notyes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)Quote from: mcmwcatand frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history. not bad for aau thug ball :kstatriot:No it's not
I can't believe that old bastard is still coaching. :fiesta:
:users: almost pfffthe's still coaching because he, just like Jank, is a great coach. you should check out his winning percentage, it's incredible. don't focus on his win/loss record though, i don't think it tells the whole story to how great of a coach he is.perhaps Joe Posnanski will be by to help you sort it outi would honestly like to hear the difference between winning percentage and win/loss record. :billypopcorn:This is so absurd :lol:WTF? :confused: No they aren't. Best record = highest winning percentage. There is no other way to measure it. Are you retarded or something? :confused:Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.yes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)No it's notyes it is (http://www.ksufans.com/forums/index.php?topic=36501.msg526810#msg526810)Quote from: mcmwcatand frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history. not bad for aau thug ball :kstatriot:No it's not
I can't believe that old bastard is still coaching. :fiesta:
Jank would probably have Willie Warren right now at K-State and would have Huggins' recruits playing at a higher level. Jank recruited tons of talent to ku and Illinois, why wouldn't he be able to do it at K-State? You guys are getting killed on this one. Almost worse than the Dezmon Briscoe > Lamark Brown thread.
Jank recruited approximately half of the players that played in championships with ku and Illinois. Where are you getting the idea that he can't recruit? Martin would be nothing without Delonte. . . K-State's 08 recruiting class was the worst in the Big 12.
K-State's 08 recruiting class was the worst in the Big 12.the same could be said for ku's 07 class
Bill Self, Roy Williams, Bob Knight, Rick Barnes, Eddie Sutton, Billy Gillispie, etc., etc., all have better overall records than Frank Martin. Do you see the difference between that and Big 12 winning percentage?
Jank recruited approximately half of the players that played in championships with ku and Illinois. Where are you getting the idea that he can't recruit? Martin would be nothing without Delonte. . . K-State's 08 recruiting class was the worst in the Big 12.
Name the best player that has been recruited to any team he has been the head coach of....
Jank is recruiting to Illinois State. Why would his class be better than K-State's? That's kind of the whole point, isn't it? If Jank was at a Big 12 program he could bring in the top talent, just like he did at ku.why didn't Jank recruit well at N Texas?
Jank recruited approximately half of the players that played in championships with ku and Illinois. Where are you getting the idea that he can't recruit? Martin would be nothing without Delonte. . . K-State's 08 recruiting class was the worst in the Big 12.
Recruiting to Kansas is not hard. I could recruit to ku. They have the name and national media doing your recruiting. I don't give anyone other than that credit for getting good recruits to kansas.
Recruiting to Kansas is not hard. I could recruit to ku. They have the name and national media doing your recruiting. I don't give anyone other than that credit for getting good recruits to kansas.
i don't entirely agree. you have to recruit everywhere. even at unc or duke.
i do think self is pretty hands on as a recruiter. some head coaches are, some aren't. the mere fact that self is willing to carry manning (has manning ever gotten a player?) tells you a lot about how that staff divides the recruiting workload.
Recruiting to Kansas is not hard. I could recruit to ku. They have the name and national media doing your recruiting. I don't give anyone other than that credit for getting good recruits to kansas.
i don't entirely agree. you have to recruit everywhere. even at unc or duke.
i do think self is pretty hands on as a recruiter. some head coaches are, some aren't. the mere fact that self is willing to carry manning (has manning ever gotten a player?) tells you a lot about how that staff divides the recruiting workload.
True, but at certain schools you are automatically on the short list of most major recruits. You do have to recruit directly against other elite level schools, but bringing in a top 25 class to a uk, UNC, Duke, etc is pretty much a forgone conclusion every year, no matter who is doing the recruiting. Even if you miss on your primary target (top 20 type dudes) your second, third, or even fourth options are still going to be top 150 type guys. Hell, dudes like Teahan walk on to uk, when they could have definitely received a schollie from many other decent teams.
Recruiting to Kansas is not hard. I could recruit to ku. They have the name and national media doing your recruiting. I don't give anyone other than that credit for getting good recruits to kansas.
i don't entirely agree. you have to recruit everywhere. even at unc or duke.
i do think self is pretty hands on as a recruiter. some head coaches are, some aren't. the mere fact that self is willing to carry manning (has manning ever gotten a player?) tells you a lot about how that staff divides the recruiting workload.
True, but at certain schools you are automatically on the short list of most major recruits. You do have to recruit directly against other elite level schools, but bringing in a top 25 class to a uk, UNC, Duke, etc is pretty much a forgone conclusion every year, no matter who is doing the recruiting. Even if you miss on your primary target (top 20 type dudes) your second, third, or even fourth options are still going to be top 150 type guys. Hell, dudes like Teahan walk on to uk, when they could have definitely received a schollie from many other decent teams.
Not true. Roy had quite a few unranked classes, and lost a lot of high profile recruiting battles. Self has obviously lost a lot of high profile battles the last three years, too.
Don't worry, when Delonte's pipeline dries up, and Frank is fired, Jank might still be available.
Enjoy the NIT.
This post has to be a joke, because (1) Tyshawn Taylor makes your guards look like trash [please rewatch ku/K-State game], and (2) because you don't need 6 elite players in one recruiting class in order for it to be a good class. Aldrich is playing like an All-American and both Morningstar and Reed have provided some great minutes this season. Add a couple 5-stars to the mix next season and that team will be Final Four material.
taylor is like ku's version of '07-'08 pullen. fans like him because they expected nothing and he can run up and down the court without falling down (strange how pullen lost the ability to do that this year). in reality, he's done nothing.
no one needs elite players. if ku just wants to be the best of the nortards, then by all means, classes like '08 are the way to go.
lol @ ku in the final four next year btw. stupider than the ksutards that thought ksu had a shot @ the tourney this year.
What did I miss? Why is bentard melting down tonight?