tim jankovich?

[ksu_FAN]

McNeck was great in the MVC.  In the Big 12, with a lottery pick no less, he's done nothing.  How on earth would Jank, who has done far less than McNeck in the MVC, do any better?  There is a reason Dana stays in that league.

[JTKSU]

Jank would have K-State better than 7th place in the Big 12 this season, with losses to Iowa, Baylor, and Oregon.

there is nothing in jankovich's record to suggest that this is true.

He has Illinois State at the top of the MVC and almost took them to the tourney this year.  He's 46-17 in his first two years there... the guy can coach.

Frank 9-7 in the Big 12>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jank 11-7 in the MVC.

[sonofdaxjones]

Can we just add (A Phogtard Talking Point Part II) to Bentard's name??

[sys]

He has Illinois State at the top of the MVC and almost took them to the tourney this year.  He's 46-17 in his first two years there... the guy can coach.

he took north texas to a 53-57 record over a four year stretch... the guy can't coach.

[ksu_FAN]

Oh, and if McNeck doesn't work for your lame "any MVC coach would be better than Frank" talking point, you could always use Turg...  Oh wait...

[BMWJhawk]

For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL).  Frank's recruiting hasn't been all that great... Huggins recruited Beasley/Walker/etc.

[sys]

For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL).

why?

why was he such a poor recruiter @ north texas?  who has he brought in to illinois st other than his 1 year band-aid, oguchi?

[JTKSU]

For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL).  Frank's recruiting hasn't been all that great... Huggins recruited Beasley/Walker/etc.

Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.
Frank brought in Buchi, Abdul, and Denis.  

I would love to hear your explanation of how ISU's class was better.

[BMWJhawk]

Are you kidding?  You think recruiting to the Big 12 and MVC are the same?


 

[ksu_FAN]

Are you kidding?  You think recruiting to the Big 12 and MVC are the same?


 

Please address the solid MVC evidence; McDermott and Turgeon, and how they prove the Jank would do a much better job than Frank in the Big 12. 

[jmlynch1]

Are you kidding?  You think recruiting to the Big 12 and MVC are the same?


 

You clearly think the win-loss record counts the same

[sys]

Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.

i don't really follow mvc recruiting, but i'm pretty sure that wsu and siu brought in better classes than that.

[JTKSU]

Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.

i don't really follow mvc recruiting, but i'm pretty sure that wsu and siu brought in better classes than that.

SIU-  (1)**, (3)***, (1)****
WSU- (1)no star, (2)**, (2)***
Bradley- (2)no star, (3)**, (1) ***
Drake- (1)no star, (2)**
Creighton- (2)no star, (1)**, (1)***
Evansville- (1)no star, (1)**, (2)***
Indiana St- (2)no star, (2)**, (1)***
NIU- (3)no star, (1)**, (1)***
MSU- (4)no star, (1)**

Pretty much puts Jank's class in the middle of a very poor recruiting conference.

[BMWJhawk]

Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.

i don't really follow mvc recruiting, but i'm pretty sure that wsu and siu brought in better classes than that.

That recruiting class was better than K-State's '08 recruiting class.  Not even joking.

[sonofdaxjones]

Okay, so BMW thinks that Jank out recruited Frank when Frank spent a good chunk of the year trying to recruit not entirely sure of how many rides he'd have to give and who would be at K-State.   Now with a full understanding of what he has to work with, Frank is pulling in a Top 25 recruiting class, and working on another one. . . Jank, um . . . um . . .

 

[sys]

That recruiting class was better than K-State's '08 recruiting class.  Not even joking.

not really the point.  but i wouldn't trade.  even as bad as ksu's class was, kelly is better than anyone isu got (no idea who they got, but i'm sure this is true).

and there is ample evidence that ksu's 2008 class is more likely an anomaly than the rule.

[JTKSU]

Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.

i don't really follow mvc recruiting, but i'm pretty sure that wsu and siu brought in better classes than that.

That recruiting class was better than K-State's '08 recruiting class.  Not even joking.

Jank's avg star-1.16
Frank's-2.67 w/ Denis, or 3.33 if you count Kelly instead of Denis.  Either way, you're an idiot.

[mcmwcat]

For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL).  Frank's recruiting hasn't been all that great... Huggins recruited Beasley/Walker/etc.

so your saying frank is better at coaching em up 

[LimestoneOutcropping]

For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL).  Frank's recruiting hasn't been all that great... Huggins recruited Beasley/Walker/etc.

so your saying frank is better at coaching em up 

Ben is taking a Rhianna in this thread.  Throw up the flag, puka shell.

[catdude33]

For some reason, I think Jank's '08 class would have been better than last in the Big 12, with guys like Buchi Awaji and Abdul Herrera (LOL).  Frank's recruiting hasn't been all that great... Huggins recruited Beasley/Walker/etc.

We have a McD AA coming next year.  Pretty good, right? 

[pissclams]

this is getting ugly, where's UMKC fan when BMW needs someone to throw in his towel?

[sonofdaxjones]

  @ Bentard . . . damn.

[The Nasti]

I just want what is best for the conference.  the better ksu is the better off the rest of the league is and right now ksu is in a position to capitalize on their recent success.

 

give me a &@#%ing break. stupidest thread ever...

[jthutch]

Jank would have K-State better than 7th place in the Big 12 this season, with losses to Iowa, Baylor, and Oregon.

there is nothing in jankovich's record to suggest that this is true.

He has Illinois State at the top of the MVC and almost took them to the tourney this year.  He's 46-17 in his first two years there... the guy can coach.

MVC sucks, why is that an accomplishment?

[JTKSU]

this is getting ugly, where's UMKC fan when BMW needs someone to throw in his towel?

I thought they were one and the same?

[steve dave]

this is getting ugly, where's UMKC fan when BMW needs someone to throw in his towel?

I thought they were one and the same?

No, everyone screws that up.  Two different d00ds. 

[BMWJhawk]

Don't worry, when Delonte's pipeline dries up, and Frank is fired, Jank might still be available. 

[steve dave]

Don't worry, when Delonte's pipeline dries up, and Frank is fired, Jank might still be available. 

Sounds good, unless ku gets to him first when Self's recruits his next snowcoat, gets fired for another violation of NCAA rules and Danny Manning's dad isn't available

[BMWJhawk]

Jank brought in 2 ** guys, 1 *** guy, and 3 (no stars) guys.

i don't really follow mvc recruiting, but i'm pretty sure that wsu and siu brought in better classes than that.

That recruiting class was better than K-State's '08 recruiting class.  Not even joking.

Jank's avg star-1.16
Frank's-2.67 w/ Denis, or 3.33 if you count Kelly instead of Denis.  Either way, you're an idiot.

1.  Your '08 recruiting class was the worst in the Big 12... dead last.  The entire class is basically a washed up UConn transfer and Buchi Awaji.    


2.  Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different.  You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.  Jank recruited tons of talent to ku and Illinois, as I've already pointed out.


Damn, you guys are delusional.  Enjoy the NIT.

[steve dave]

2.  Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different.  You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.  

You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC.  You can't have it both ways.