tim jankovich?

[JTKSU]

Don't worry, when Delonte's pipeline dries up, and Frank is fired, Jank might still be available. 

Further proof that he's nothing special as a coach.  Believe me, if anyone wanted to lure him away from ISU, they could do it fairly easily.  Nobody not named Dana wants to stay in that wasteland of a conference any longer than they have to.  Just ask Keno Davis, McNeck, Turd, etc...

[BMWJhawk]

2.  Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different.  You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.  

You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC.  You can't have it both ways.

No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17). 

[mcmwcat]

Enjoy the NIT.

thanks!  enjoy the NCAAs.  i wish ksu was playing in it like ku.  at least we'll have a chance to boost our despicable attendance #s.   

[mcmwcat]

2.  Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different.  You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.  

You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC.  You can't have it both ways.

No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17). 

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

[ksu_FAN]

2.  Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different.  You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.  

You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC.  You can't have it both ways.

No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17). 

How come you still haven't addressed the most valid comparison out there IMO; former MoValley coaches and their transition to Big 12 basketball compared to Frank.  Frank owns them (6-0 head to head!) and it isn't even close.

You are biased toward Jank simply b/c he was at ku.  Don't get me wrong, I think he's a fine coach, but there is no guarantee that he could do better than Frank in this league.  Perhaps he'll prove me wrong at some point, but based on what I've seen so far from Frank compared to former Valley coaches, I'll take Frank.

[mcmwcat]

2.  Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different.  You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.  

You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC.  You can't have it both ways.

No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17). 

How come you still haven't addressed the most valid comparison out there IMO; former MoValley coaches and their transition to Big 12 basketball compared to Frank.  Frank owns them (6-0 head to head!) and it isn't even close.

You are biased toward Jank simply b/c he was at ku.  Don't get me wrong, I think he's a fine coach, but there is no guarantee that he could do better than Frank in this league.  Perhaps he'll prove me wrong at some point, but based on what I've seen so far from Frank compared to former Valley coaches, I'll take Frank.

but 46-17 > 44-22   

[BMWJhawk]

2.  Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different.  You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.  

You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC.  You can't have it both ways.

No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17). 

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not... his winning percentage is 6th best (LOL) because he's only been at K-State for two years, and inherited Beasley/Walker in his first year.

[mcmwcat]

how long has jank been at ISU?

[mcmwcat]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

[yosh]

Current state of KSU basketball had Jank been hired:

last two years record:  4-24
looking forward to: handful of three star unranked and JUCOs, maybe one 4 star   starting to develop.
asses sniffing: Doc Sadlers, Turds, McNecks
ku fan reaction:  "you did the right thing.  Jank will get it turned around, just give him time" (snicker)
Other big 12 schools reaction:  

[JTKSU]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

Did you just provide a link to this same thread?  Weird.

[mcmwcat]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

Did you just provide a link to this same thread?  Weird.

no

[catdude33]

More like Junkovich.

[Pete]

I didn't really keep up with this thread, and now it's super long.  I am certainly not going to take the time to go back and read it.  IMO, this thread should be moved to the World Forum so that Mirak and Az can finish it off.

[JTKSU]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

Did you just provide a link to this same thread?  Weird.

no

Well then, color me confused.

[JTKSU]

I didn't really keep up with this thread, and now it's super long.  I am certainly not going to take the time to go back and read it.  IMO, this thread should be moved to the World Forum so that Mirak and Az can finish it off.

Where is this "world forum" that you speak off?

[BMWJhawk]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

You are slow... Frank's record isn't 6th best in Big 12 history.  His winning percentage is 6th best up to this point. 


 

[ksu_FAN]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

Did you just provide a link to this same thread?  Weird.

no

Well then, color me confused.

Be careful, if you keep clicking on that link you may get caught in some weird time loop.  Next thing you know your computer will disappear and you'll be wondering who is going to replace Hatcher and Davis.

[steve dave]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

You are slow... Frank's record isn't 6th best in Big 12 history.  His winning percentage is 6th best up to this point. 


 

pffttt 

[BMWJhawk]

Jank would probably have Willie Warren right now at K-State and would have Huggins' recruits playing at a higher level.  Jank recruited tons of talent to ku and Illinois, why wouldn't he be able to do it at K-State?   You guys are getting killed on this one.  Almost worse than the Dezmon Briscoe > Lamark Brown thread.

[mcmwcat]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

No it's not

yes it is

[JTKSU]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

No it's not

yes it is

Damnit, stop doing that. 

[BMWJhawk]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

No it's not

yes it is

Oh, I get it... you realize you're wrong, and so now you're just linking the same thing, over and over, until you start feeling better about yourself.  Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.  

[steve dave]

BMW, where do you think Jank would have us ranked in the B12 this season?  1st?  2nd?  How much higher would our '09 recruiting class be ranked?  Curious what we are missing out on here.

[catdude33]

Jank would have Huggins' recruits playing at a higher level.

He just took a team that started Kent and Colon to a 4th place finish in the Big XII.  Clemente was our only consistent threat to score the entire year.  To what level were you expecting them to go?  

[yosh]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

No it's not

yes it is

Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.
  

WTF?    No they aren't.  Best record = highest winning percentage.  There is no other way to measure it.  Are you retarded or something?  

[steve dave]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

No it's not

yes it is

Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.
  

WTF?    No they aren't.  Best record = highest winning percentage.  There is no other way to measure it.  Are you retarded or something?  

This is so absurd 

[pissclams]

2.  Recruiting players to the MVC and Big 12 is entirely different.  You can't compare Jank's recruiting to K-State's, because they're not on a level playing field.  

You, in this very thread, compared their W/L records while one was in the B12 and one was in the MVC.  You can't have it both ways.

No, I simply used Jank's overall record at Illinois State to point out that he's done a good job so far in his first two years there (46-17). 

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not... his winning percentage is 6th best (LOL) because he's only been at K-State for two years, and inherited Beasley/Walker in his first year.

your national championship doesn't count either because Seff had Wut?, Chalmers, Rush, and Jackson.  let's see you win without good players!!   

[mcmwcat]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

No it's not

yes it is

Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.

WTF?    No they aren't.  Best record = highest winning percentage.  There is no other way to measure it.  Are you retarded or something?  

This is so absurd 

i would honestly like to hear the difference between winning percentage and win/loss record. 

[pissclams]

and frank's record is the 6th best in big 12 history.  not bad for aau thug ball  

No it's not

yes it is

No it's not

yes it is

Best overall record and highest winning percentage are two completely different things.

WTF?    No they aren't.  Best record = highest winning percentage.  There is no other way to measure it.  Are you retarded or something?  

This is so absurd 

i would honestly like to hear the difference between winning percentage and win/loss record. 

perhaps Joe Posnanski will be by to help you sort it out