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Sports => Snyder's Electronic Cyber Space World => Topic started by: fatty fat fat on January 01, 2009, 03:36:27 PM
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3804400 :ksu:
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LMAO
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here come the youtubes, josh. :stirpot:
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
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Dude's gonna get huge paychecks for his upside too. Smart move.
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&@#% you Josh, &@#% you...
(i still love you though :love:)
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
You're an idiot...no offense.
He improved tremendously from his frosh season to this year. His OLINE was AWFUL. He didn't have a running game to help whatsoever. His coaching was terrible at best. He will be an excellent QB in the pro's and the best to come out of this draft when it's all said and done.
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
You're an idiot...no offense.
He improved tremendously from his frosh season to this year. His OLINE was AWFUL. He didn't have a running game to help whatsoever. His coaching was terrible at best. He will be an excellent QB in the pro's and the best to come out of this draft when it's all said and done.
He had no running game this season, but that's not true at all for the last two years. His oline was terrible, i'll give you that, but he also had the luxury to throw to two all american receivers over the course of his career.
The best to come out of this year's draft? Please.
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Frack, we are screwed next season at QB. :angryMJ:
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Im dissapointed that he didn't return so he could have had a chance to at least beat MU,ku,or NU at least once. :yuck:
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Oh wow.
revised prediction
2 wins.
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Dude's gonna get huge paychecks for his upside too. Smart move.
He'll probably actually lose out on a couple million. If he stayed and played well he could have been a early first round pick, but i can't see him getting drafted in the first round right now. This will probably turn out like the bill walker situation with freemie ridding the pine for a couple years.
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Leadership and Toughness . . . hmm.
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Dude's gonna get huge paychecks for his upside too. Smart move.
He'll probably actually lose out on a couple million. If he stayed and played well he could have been a early first round pick, but i can't see him getting drafted in the first round right now. This will probably turn out like the bill walker situation with freemie ridding the pine for a couple years.
Lots of QB's ride the bench for a few seasons.
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Im dissapointed that he didn't return so he could have had a chance to at least beat MU,ku,or NU at least once. :yuck:
Yep. :lol: at calling this guy anything more than what he's been his entire career, totally overrated.
Thanks for the Texas games, Josh.
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Frankly, I never understood the huge expectations for Josh. He was, what, the #90 or so overall recruit in his class?
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Dude's gonna get huge paychecks for his upside too. Smart move.
He'll probably actually lose out on a couple million. If he stayed and played well he could have been a early first round pick, but i can't see him getting drafted in the first round right now. This will probably turn out like the bill walker situation with freemie ridding the pine for a couple years.
Lots of QB's ride the bench for a few seasons.
Ya i know im just saying he won't be the next matt ryan but more like the next matt shaub.
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I hope Kassanavoid or Klein are ready because coffman can't run. :banghead:
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
He improved tremendously from his frosh season to this year.
No.
No he didn't.
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I hope Kassanavoid or Klein are ready because coffman can't run. :banghead:
Stop hoping.
We're going to blow. Embrace it.
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I hope Kassanavoid or Klein are ready because coffman can't run. :banghead:
Tysyn!!
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
He improved tremendously from his frosh season to this year.
No.
No he didn't.
retard.
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Leadership and Toughness . . . hmm.
I'm sure Prince will suggest some books to read on leadership and toughness. He'll likely take a binder to his interviews as well. Freeman could benefit from some real coaching before heading to the pros.
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I hope Kassanavoid or Klein are ready because coffman can't run. :banghead:
i thought those two were transferring or leaving? must have guessed wrong.
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On a side note, I'm really looking forward to watching Carson Coffman get coached up to a Div-1 quarterback next season.
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On a side note, I'm really looking forward to watching Carson Coffman get coached up to a Div-1 quarterback next season.
think Chad May.
I mean, with the type of coaches we have possible Grahm Harrell/Tim Tebow ish.
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
He improved tremendously from his frosh season to this year.
No.
No he didn't.
retard.
Oh the irony.
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Really . . . who gives a F-ck.
Good luck Josh, you were okay I guess, I know you probably didn't like the prospect of actually you know . . . having to work for your starting job, and maybe dealing with Old Ball's propensity to yank QB's when they throw interceptions and fumble the ball and the offense isn't moving.
Actually pretty smart on your part . . . your coddled life at KSU was over, and it's best to go earn some jack and hold a clipboard.
3 wins tops for KSU next year.
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Really . . . who gives a F-ck.
Good luck Josh, you were okay I guess, I know you probably didn't like the prospect of actually you know . . . having to work for your starting job, and maybe dealing with Old Ball's propensity to yank QB's when they throw interceptions and fumble the ball and the offense isn't moving.
Actually pretty smart on your part . . . your coddled life at KSU was over, and it's best to go earn some jack and hold a clipboard.
3 wins tops for KSU next year.
Pretty much nailed it, cept for the wins part.
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Well, everyone was comparing Collin Klein's vids to Alex Smith, and we know how Snyder loves the Urban Meyer mania, so now's his time to shine.
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The difference is Josh will have a long, successful NFL career.
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On a side note, I'm really looking forward to watching Carson Coffman get coached up to a Div-1 quarterback next season.
think Chad May.
I mean, with the type of coaches we have possible Grahm Harrell/Tim Tebow ish.
Without the million dollar arm and cockyish attitude.
He's basically like a giant piece of marble just waiting to get carved into a masterpiece. And Bill Snyder is the Michelangelo that's going to make it happen.
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:billypopcorn:
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:lol:
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On a side note, I'm really looking forward to watching Carson Coffman get coached up to a Div-1 quarterback next season.
think Chad May.
I mean, with the type of coaches we have possible Grahm Harrell/Tim Tebow ish.
Without the million dollar arm and cockyish attitude.
He's basically like a giant 6'3 200lb piece of marble just waiting to get carved into a masterpiece. And Bill Snyder is the Michelangelo that's going to make it happen.
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:billypopcorn:
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:woohoo:
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What was the latest news on Daniel Thomas making it to manhattan? He could run the option since he was a QB in juco. :dunno:
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
QFT glad to see him go honestly; this is more than likely one of the last times we hear from him for quite a while.
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here come the youtubes, josh. :stirpot:
:dancin: :fatty: :woohoo:
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:repost:
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(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3097/3157865910_f43d2ecd5d.jpg?v=0)
:frown:
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you really suck at this whole "posting" thing
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I guess he saw the writing on the wall, huh?
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Dude's gonna get huge paychecks for his upside too. Smart move.
He'll probably actually lose out on a couple million. If he stayed and played well he could have been a early first round pick, but i can't see him getting drafted in the first round right now. This will probably turn out like the bill walker situation with freemie ridding the pine for a couple years.
Lots of QB's ride the bench for a few seasons.
Yeah like matt ryan, joe flaco or projected Matt Stafford
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
QFT glad to see him go honestly; this is more than likely one of the last times we hear from him for quite a while.
:powertard:
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:yikes:
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will be fun to see who Dylan Meier v2.0 will be for the next few years. I'm sure bill will coach'em up.
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Freeman sucks, he has sucked and will suck. he has never been a good big game player. The two UT wins were from other people making plays and him not hurting the team too much.
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
QFT glad to see him go honestly; this is more than likely one of the last times we hear from him for quite a while.
:powertard:
:powertard: :powertard:
See what I did there?
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Dude's gonna get huge paychecks for his upside too. Smart move.
He'll probably actually lose out on a couple million. If he stayed and played well he could have been a early first round pick, but i can't see him getting drafted in the first round right now. This will probably turn out like the bill walker situation with freemie ridding the pine for a couple years.
Lots of QB's ride the bench for a few seasons.
Yeah like matt ryan, joe flaco or projected Matt Stafford
Ryan has great weapons and a good line, Flaco has a solid run game and good offensive line.
If Stafford goes to detroit/KC he will suck.
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If he possesses it he still has it because he has never used it while at KSU
Leadership and Toughness . . . hmm.
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will be fun to see who Dylan Meier v2.0 will be for the next few years. I'm sure bill will coach'em up.
I was thinking more along the lines of Allen Evridge.
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Freeman should have spent more time running the offense and less time running Tri Delt trains while he was here. That being said, I'm literally about to vomit thinking of Carson Coffman going under center next season.
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-Freeman is a very good quarterback with great potential
-his head coach sucked
-he didn't have a defense
-he didn't have an Oline
-he didn't have a running game
-he was not pushed through competition while at KSU which that didn't help his college career but he's still a very good quarterback that was on a bad team
-thought he could have benefited from another season in college because he's not ready to play in the NFL but don't blame him a bit for leaving now
-it will be a dream to get back to rooting for dual threat QBs at KSU. Pro style QBs in the college game are for teams with 4-5 star talent.
Two Cents
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We will have at least five. I say six but can see seven. If Coffman is the man we will be fine. And one of the others could surprise everyone. JF had never shown his potential so not sure why next year would be any different. Coffman showed confidence and leadership. Which wins more games than potential never realized.
Really . . . who gives a F-ck.
Good luck Josh, you were okay I guess, I know you probably didn't like the prospect of actually you know . . . having to work for your starting job, and maybe dealing with Old Ball's propensity to yank QB's when they throw interceptions and fumble the ball and the offense isn't moving.
Actually pretty smart on your part . . . your coddled life at KSU was over, and it's best to go earn some jack and hold a clipboard.
3 wins tops for KSU next year.
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The difference is Josh will have a long, successful NFL career.
I can't wait for you to get pwnd by TP like Ben does.
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Dude's gonna get huge paychecks for his upside too. Smart move.
He'll probably actually lose out on a couple million. If he stayed and played well he could have been a early first round pick, but i can't see him getting drafted in the first round right now. This will probably turn out like the bill walker situation with freemie ridding the pine for a couple years.
Lots of QB's ride the bench for a few seasons.
Yeah like matt ryan, joe flaco or projected Matt Stafford
Ryan has great weapons and a good line, Flaco has a solid run game and good offensive line.
If Stafford goes to detroit/KC he will suck.
dude that is seriously off base. Flaco has been running the offense in Baltimore not just a shell to get them through. He has shown to be a great passer and decision maker, both of which I hope we can agree Freeman isnt. Ryan I will give you has a shell and not a full O to work with but has proven to be a great decision maker. He is NOT hurting his team. Once again Freeman couldnt keep himself from blowing a game (See all Big12North Games). Ryan has a great vet running back in Dunn and a solid team, but by no means is that team "good". They go rid of key vets (Crumpler) and have taken risks on unproven player.
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I'm actually surprised that the freems backlash from the tards took so long. GPC must have had a team powertard party last night and everyone is just now getting around.
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Dude's gonna get huge paychecks for his upside too. Smart move.
He'll probably actually lose out on a couple million. If he stayed and played well he could have been a early first round pick, but i can't see him getting drafted in the first round right now. This will probably turn out like the bill walker situation with freemie ridding the pine for a couple years.
Lots of QB's ride the bench for a few seasons.
Yeah like matt ryan, joe flaco or projected Matt Stafford
Ryan has great weapons and a good line, Flaco has a solid run game and good offensive line.
If Stafford goes to detroit/KC he will suck.
dude that is seriously off base. Flaco has been running the offense in Baltimore not just a shell to get them through. He has shown to be a great passer and decision maker, both of which I hope we can agree Freeman isnt. Ryan I will give you has a shell and not a full O to work with but has proven to be a great decision maker. He is NOT hurting his team. Once again Freeman couldnt keep himself from blowing a game (See all Big12North Games). Ryan has a great vet running back in Dunn and a solid team, but by no means is that team "good". They go rid of key vets (Crumpler) and have taken risks on unproven player.
Ryan Has the NFL's second leading rusher with almost 1700 yds dumbass.
Balt has the league's second best defense and was +13 give/take.
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Off the top of my head (no notes)
Started 32 games, Would guess the 2nd most behind (D. Dickey 1979-82)
Won 14
Lost 18
2 big wins vs TX
1 great comeback vs Okie State
Anything else?
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Off the top of my head (no notes)
Started 32 games, Would guess the 2nd most behind (D. Dickey 1979-82)
Won 14
Lost 18
2 big wins vs TX
1 great comeback vs Okie State
Anything else?
Being about the only reason to watch this team unless you enjoy watching train wrecks??
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2008
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
J. Freeman 22/37 207 5.6 0 3
2007
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
J. Freeman 31/48 305 6.4 1 3
2006
C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT
Josh Freeman 23/44 244 5.5 0 3
Oh yeah he is a &@#%ing winner
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Dude's gonna get huge paychecks for his upside too. Smart move.
He'll probably actually lose out on a couple million. If he stayed and played well he could have been a early first round pick, but i can't see him getting drafted in the first round right now. This will probably turn out like the bill walker situation with freemie ridding the pine for a couple years.
Lots of QB's ride the bench for a few seasons.
Yeah like matt ryan, joe flaco or projected Matt Stafford
Ryan has great weapons and a good line, Flaco has a solid run game and good offensive line.
If Stafford goes to detroit/KC he will suck.
dude that is seriously off base. Flaco has been running the offense in Baltimore not just a shell to get them through. He has shown to be a great passer and decision maker, both of which I hope we can agree Freeman isnt. Ryan I will give you has a shell and not a full O to work with but has proven to be a great decision maker. He is NOT hurting his team. Once again Freeman couldnt keep himself from blowing a game (See all Big12North Games). Ryan has a great vet running back in Dunn and a solid team, but by no means is that team "good". They go rid of key vets (Crumpler) and have taken risks on unproven player.
Ryan Has the NFL's second leading rusher with almost 1700 yds dumbass.
Balt has the league's second best defense and was +13 give/take.
reading >>>>>>>>>>> you
oh and Baltimore had that same great D last year. With NO offense what so ever.
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Thank God. I was hoping he would leave. We are better off without him. His lack of leadership and decision making on the field hurt us. He will fail in the NFL. If he thought Iowa State's defense was difficult, wait until he has the Steelers D running after his ass. That is if he ever steps on the field. :lol:
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I"m not going to trash Josh but it's not a big deal either way. He only had one year left to play and we are going to pretty well suck next year either way. We won't be as good without him next year but long term it has no real effect. Either way Snyder was always going to have to find and develop a QB to run his system.
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The difference is Josh will have a long, successful NFL career.
I can't wait for you to get pwnd by TP like Ben does.
"pwnd"...
Whatever that is, I welcome him to give it his best shot.
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I welcome him to give it his best shot.
i thought so.
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The difference is Josh will have a long, successful NFL career.
We're you born an a$$hole or did you work at it your whole life?
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O/U on how long until catsfan20052006 re-posts this? :billypopcorn:
or an
OFFICIAL KSU QB SEARCH THREAD :lol:
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What a douche. crap hitting fan
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What has he ever led? The scout team? When did he show leadership? Confidence? When he was fumbling on the goalline in garbage time against Tech?
How many times this year did your OL and RB ineptitude relegate our offense to chucking the ball deep? Too often. Carson can't throw the ball 35 yards downfield, much less 55.
We will have at least five. I say six but can see seven. If Coffman is the man we will be fine. And one of the others could surprise everyone. JF had never shown his potential so not sure why next year would be any different. Coffman showed confidence and leadership. Which wins more games than potential never realized.
Really . . . who gives a F-ck.
Good luck Josh, you were okay I guess, I know you probably didn't like the prospect of actually you know . . . having to work for your starting job, and maybe dealing with Old Ball's propensity to yank QB's when they throw interceptions and fumble the ball and the offense isn't moving.
Actually pretty smart on your part . . . your coddled life at KSU was over, and it's best to go earn some jack and hold a clipboard.
3 wins tops for KSU next year.
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I am surprised many of the posters on this thread are intelligent enough to operate a computer and post on this message board. Cherry picking games here and there, and completely ignoring the fact that the defense was abysmal while the offense was solid this year, are not ways to form a solid and coherent argument. Freeman was a good player and would likely have been very good next year. Losing him is not a good thing in any way, shape, or form.
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"I hope to bring leadership and toughness to an NFL team," Freeman said.
Strange, we hoped he would bring that to a Big XII team.
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Thoughts?
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you people are f'ing idiots. If the defense got as better, year from year, as Josh did from his freshman year, we'd be playing today. completely f'ing idiots. It's tough to "lead" a team when the OL sucks complete donkey d*ck, you have no running back, and your defense has the resistancy of air.
Michael Bishop was a "leader" because he had an NFL line in front of him, an NFL-caliber wide reciever, an NFL caliber RB, and a defense that was littered with NFL players. Same for J. Beasley and E. Roberson. f'ing idiots. I mean, do you think D. Meier's problem was that he didn't have "fire"? No, he had zero talent and so did the team around him. Same for AE. They had no talent, Josh does it's just a shame that no one else on the team does/did.
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Freeman was a good player and has always had great potential. That being said, he gets gun shy in the pocket and is prone to bad decisions...particularly when that happens. Joe Cool...he is not. He could've finally gotten some good coaching next year and seen what a good coach is. He no doubt would've been a better QB had he stayed one more year...not just when he enters the draft but over his career. Good background and coaching in college really seems to help guys out throughout a pro career. I know why Freeman is going now, potential changes to 1st year player salaries, weaker QB class this year, new system coming in, new coaching, etc. That being said, it is kind of like Huggins used to say, do you want to play pro ball, or have a career? I don't see Freeman as having the intangibles to make it as more than a backup QB for a few years and I doubt he ever really even gets a shot at #1. Another yr of playing under Sndyer and I think he had the potential to be an actual QB in the league. That being said, good luck, Josh and thanks for the time...I wish you the best of luck.
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Freeman was a good player and has always had great potential. That being said, he gets gun shy in the pocket and is prone to bad decisions...particularly when that happens. Joe Cool...he is not. He could've finally gotten some good coaching next year and seen what a good coach is. He no doubt would've been a better QB had he stayed one more year...not just when he enters the draft but over his career. Good background and coaching in college really seems to help guys out throughout a pro career. I know why Freeman is going now, potential changes to 1st year player salaries, weaker QB class this year, new system coming in, new coaching, etc. That being said, it is kind of like Huggins used to say, do you want to play pro ball, or have a career? I don't see Freeman as having the intangibles to make it as more than a backup QB for a few years and I doubt he ever really even gets a shot at #1. Another yr of playing under Sndyer and I think he had the potential to be an actual QB in the league. That being said, good luck, Josh and thanks for the time...I wish you the best of luck.
I am pretty sure they put this off for a few years.
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Its good to see the usual idiots sippin on the hater-ade.
So is like Freeman the Most Hated Cat of All Time (MHCOAT) now? What's the verdict out there in tard-land?
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How about we don't throw the best player on the team under the bus? Not a sermon, just a thought.
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Just one more bad decision by the kid, not really surprising.
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the Freemie hate is ridic.
Defini. shows a lack of fbiq to think that he was bad.
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PW just owned TP and all of his groupies with one post, lol.
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
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So is like Freeman the Most Hated Cat of All Time (MHCOAT) now?
Doubtful.
But what most others realize that many of you don't, is that you'll always be referring to 'potential' when remembering Josh Freeman. But the actual reality that we've all witnessed was a quarterback that had a size and build for it, but was mediocre even at his best and a colossal &@#%-up under pressure. And thats after all this 'massive improvement' from his freshman year.
He's like a Jason Bennett. Except you actually put all your eggs into the basket and instead of acknowledging the reality of his ineptitude, you persist into delusional fantasies that with a good team around him he would have been great.
He was lazy. He was narcissistic. And he wasn't a good quarterback.
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How about we don't throw the best player on the team under the bus? Not a sermon, just a thought.
:flush:
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious what kind of response you wanted/were going to get.
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How about we don't throw the best player on the team under the bus? Not a sermon, just a thought.
:flush:
:suicideispainless:
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the Freemie hate is ridic.
Defini. shows a lack of fbiq to think that he was bad.
Defending Freems is :powertard:
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the Freemie hate is ridic.
Defini. shows a lack of fbiq to think that he was bad.
Defending Freems is :powertard:
You're an idiot, and not only are you not using the powertard stamp appropriately, but you're ruining it. Stop.
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So is like Freeman the Most Hated Cat of All Time (MHCOAT) now?
Doubtful.
But what most others realize that many of you don't, is that you'll always be referring to 'potential' when remembering Josh Freeman. But the actual reality that we've all witnessed was a quarterback that had a size and build for it, but was mediocre even at his best and a colossal frack-up under pressure. And thats after all this 'massive improvement' from his freshman year.
He's like a Jason Bennett. Except you actually put all your eggs into the basket and instead of acknowledging the reality of his ineptitude, you persist into delusional fantasies that with a good team around him he would have been great.
He was lazy. He was narcissistic. And he wasn't a good quarterback.
We'll see won't we?
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the Freemie hate is ridic.
Defini. shows a lack of fbiq to think that he was bad.
Defending Freems is :powertard:
You're an idiot, and not only are you not using the powertard stamp appropriately, but you're ruining it. Stop.
lol, don't fight it. :powertard: :powertard: :powertard: :powertard: :powertard:
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So is like Freeman the Most Hated Cat of All Time (MHCOAT) now?
Doubtful.
But what most others realize that many of you don't, is that you'll always be referring to 'potential' when remembering Josh Freeman. But the actual reality that we've all witnessed was a quarterback that had a size and build for it, but was mediocre even at his best and a colossal frack-up under pressure. And thats after all this 'massive improvement' from his freshman year.
He's like a Jason Bennett. Except you actually put all your eggs into the basket and instead of acknowledging the reality of his ineptitude, you persist into delusional fantasies that with a good team around him he would have been great.
He was lazy. He was narcissistic. And he wasn't a good quarterback.
Player PAC% PAYD PATD INT
Josh Freeman 58.6 2945 20 8
The kid had his deficiencies, but those are the numbers of a good quarterback. Not great, but good enough to lead a team with half of a defense to 7 or 8 wins.
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Can't wait to watch you fail in the league Josh!!
Frack you.
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here come the youtubes, josh. :stirpot:
haha...and to be honest we all know what your youtubes did to jordy and talib's stock last year....freeman stock :AzCatBS:
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"I hope to bring leadership, toughness, and turnovers to an NFL team," Freeman said.
FTQ.
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What an absolute bust. His entire career, people were slobbing all over josh's knob about his "upside."
QFT glad to see him go honestly; this is more than likely one of the last times we hear from him for quite a while.
:powertard:
Cire it probably no secret that i think you are and have always been a douche, but to lable me a powertard,( you moderate a board that is two strokes away from being fitz homers themselves) is assanine. I never had confidence in RP and Freems, actually got into some arguments with you about both of their abilities. If I remeber right i called bullcrap on you more than once when you were pimping them both on Kstatefans.
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I'll miss Freemaw; but i guess the sooner KSU gets rid of all the prince FP/TC's the better. :popcorn:
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I'll take a shot. Good luck in the league if you actually make a team. The NFL is made up of extremely tough, athletic, and strong minded individuals who make up a team and you don't seem to be. My guess is that your career will not be any better than your father's before you, but hopefully I'll be wrong. I lost all respect for you when you threw your teammates under the bus with your "Snyder guys" comment. You are a team player as long as you're the one making up the rules and I think that you will find this gets you nowhere in the NFL and very little in life.
JMO
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Personally, I don't know how tough or not Freeman is, nor do I know of his leadership capabilities. One thing is for certain neither of these could have been helped by being RP's golden boy. I hope he does well and I hope he continues ties with KSU. He has all the physical tools, and if he gets hooked up with the right group of coaches he could blosso into what he said he wants to be.
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:kstatriot:
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Terry shouldn't take this personally.
I supported him wholeheartedly from 1999-2002
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I heard that TP had some family issues that played into his decision. Josh's old man does quite well. Maybe apples and oranges here on the "decision" side of this issue.
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here come the youtubes, josh. :stirpot:
Patiently waiting for this.
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I heard that TP had some family issues that played into his decision. Josh's old man does quite well. Maybe apples and oranges here on the "decision" side of this issue.
Family issues, you say?
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The chance of this thread becoming epic is getting greater and greater. :billypopcorn:
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I bet those grapes were sour anyway.
:yuck:
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Freems still has a big problem that going to make it hard for him to make it in the NFL--he's not a terribly accurate passer. He's making a big mistake, but he knows that Snyder is more interested in a winning team than helping Josh's NFL stock.
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you people are f'ing idiots. If the defense got as better, year from year, as Josh did from his freshman year, we'd be playing today. completely f'ing idiots. It's tough to "lead" a team when the OL sucks complete donkey d*ck, you have no running back, and your defense has the resistancy of air.
Michael Bishop was a "leader" because he had an NFL line in front of him, an NFL-caliber wide reciever, an NFL caliber RB, and a defense that was littered with NFL players. Same for J. Beasley and E. Roberson. f'ing idiots. I mean, do you think D. Meier's problem was that he didn't have "fire"? No, he had zero talent and so did the team around him. Same for AE. They had no talent, Josh does it's just a shame that no one else on the team does/did.
I agree with Zacker, but I'll add this......IF, and that is one mother &@#%ing HUGE "if," IF we can get a player with the ability of a Roberson (who wasn't great), then I think we'll more success than we saw with Freeman.
We have very little high-end talent on this roster right now. Snyder will at least coach up crap talent. Freems never had a chance to excel due to the worst coaching hire in the history of the Big 12.
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I heard that TP had some family issues that played into his decision. Josh's old man does quite well. Maybe apples and oranges here on the "decision" side of this issue.
Family issues, you say?
That's correct.
As I understand it, Terry assisted his uncle with substantial legal bills. His uncle established himself as the number one importer of heroin in the Harlem district of Manhattan. He did so by buying heroin directly from the source in South East Asia and he came up with a unique way of importing the drugs into the United States...on military cargo shipments. As a result, his product was superior to what is currently available on the street and his prices were lower. His alliance with the New York Mafia ensured his position.
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Terry shouldn't take this personally.
I supported him wholeheartedly from 1999-2002
Good backpedal... I would probably do the same thing if I just spewed a mouthfull of "I'm a horses ass"
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I hope to God your next quarterback is as awesome as Freeman.
:dancin:
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I heard that TP had some family issues that played into his decision. Josh's old man does quite well. Maybe apples and oranges here on the "decision" side of this issue.
Family issues, you say?
That's correct.
As I understand it, Terry assisted his uncle with substantial legal bills. His uncle established himself as the number one importer of heroin in the Harlem district of Manhattan. He did so by buying heroin directly from the source in South East Asia and he came up with a unique way of importing the drugs into the United States...on military cargo shipments. As a result, his product was superior to what is currently available on the street and his prices were lower. His alliance with the New York Mafia ensured his position.
O
M
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HAHAHAHAHA
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Terry shouldn't take this personally.
I supported him wholeheartedly from 1999-2002
Good backpedal... I would probably do the same thing if I just spewed a mouthfull of "I'm a horses ass"
Not a backpedal at all. Just the truth.
I once was a big time Terry fan.
And this is the internet. Not reality.
My posts seem to often require further explanation.
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I heard that TP had some family issues that played into his decision. Josh's old man does quite well. Maybe apples and oranges here on the "decision" side of this issue.
Family issues, you say?
That's correct.
As I understand it, Terry assisted his uncle with substantial legal bills. His uncle established himself as the number one importer of heroin in the Harlem district of Manhattan. He did so by buying heroin directly from the source in South East Asia and he came up with a unique way of importing the drugs into the United States...on military cargo shipments. As a result, his product was superior to what is currently available on the street and his prices were lower. His alliance with the New York Mafia ensured his position.
:lol:
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My posts seem to often require further explanation.
qft. lets see you backpedal out of not wanting to have sex with pete carroll.
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Selfish, poor decisions hurt Kansas State.
I think we can all agree on that.
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My posts seem to often require further explanation.
qft. lets see you backpedal out of not wanting to have sex with pete carroll.
Few things are more disgusting.
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Few things are more disgusting.
:eek:
could you be more gay?
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Terry shouldn't take this personally.
I supported him wholeheartedly from 1999-2002
Good backpedal... I would probably do the same thing if I just spewed a mouthfull of "I'm a horses ass"
Not a backpedal at all. Just the truth.
I once was a big time Terry fan.
And this is the internet. Not reality.
Wow, thats a shocking revelation... I was under the impression that I was awake... must be in a dream world or something... Guess that this isn't reality is good news for annonymous postings that call out people who crap more class than the poster will ever have.
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Terry shouldn't take this personally.
I supported him wholeheartedly from 1999-2002
Good backpedal... I would probably do the same thing if I just spewed a mouthfull of "I'm a horses ass"
Not a backpedal at all. Just the truth.
I once was a big time Terry fan.
And this is the internet. Not reality.
Wow, thats a shocking revelation... I was under the impression that I was awake... must be in a dream world or something... Guess that this isn't reality is good news for annonymous postings that call out people who crap more class than the poster will ever have.
Dream world is a decent way to put it.
Terry's all class.
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Selfish, poor decisions hurt Kansas State.
I think we can all agree on that.
Of course, lets ignore what he did for us and only think about what MORE he should have done for the team... wait, that would be selfish, now I'm confused... :jerkoff:
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Few things are more disgusting.
:eek:
could you be more gay?
Sigh...
Pretty sure if you look through the archives you will in fact discover that I am much less gay than most ksufans
This belongs in that other thread, dude.
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Selfish, poor decisions hurt Kansas State.
I think we can all agree on that.
Of course, lets ignore what he did for us and only think about what MORE he should have done for the team... wait, that would be selfish, now I'm confused... :jerkoff:
Fitz fan?
You must not have heard we're good friends now.
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Crap, I was going to call attention to the post number that coincided with the year of my birth, but I missed it...
Got carried away.
Message boards are fun.
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Pretty sure if you look through the archives you will in fact discover that I am much less gay than most ksufans
probably true. but, i'm not talking about moldy archived records, i'm talking about clean, aristocratic, boston brahminy pete carroll.
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Selfish, poor decisions hurt Kansas State.
I think we can all agree on that.
Of course, lets ignore what he did for us and only think about what MORE he should have done for the team... wait, that would be selfish, now I'm confused... :jerkoff:
Fitz fan?
You must not have heard we're good friends now.
Naturally, pull the Fitz reference like 90% of other people with nothing to say...
But nope, didn't hear that, but I'd be more apt to believe it if I heard it from him.
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I hope to God your next quarterback is as awesome as Freeman.
:dancin:
Freems has talent. You really can't argue that. The NFL places more value on Freems than they do on Reesing, for example. However, Reesing played in a system that was vastly superior to Freems.
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On a side note, hilarious to see FITZ and co. blind sided by another major K-State sports announcement.
:powertard:
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On a side note, hilalrious to see FITZ and co. blind sided by another major K-State sports announcement.
:powertard:
Yup, I have lost all faith in any news coming from that website that is noteworthy again...
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Damn poet, I used to like you... but how could you? Friends with fitz..... really?
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Damn poet, I used to like you... but how could you? Friends with fitz..... really?
I think he meant Terry. Pretty sure Fitz and Poet still hate each other.
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On a side note, hilalrious to see FITZ and co. blind sided by another major K-State sports announcement.
:powertard:
Yup, I have lost all faith in any news coming from that website that is noteworthy again...
Fitz is waiting for an announcement from the KSU SID before running a story on Freeman, yet ran with "It's Patterson". :flush:
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Really . . . who gives a F-ck.
Good luck Josh, you were okay I guess, I know you probably didn't like the prospect of actually you know . . . having to work for your starting job, and maybe dealing with Old Ball's propensity to yank QB's when they throw interceptions and fumble the ball and the offense isn't moving.
Actually pretty smart on your part . . . your coddled life at KSU was over, and it's best to go earn some jack and hold a clipboard.
+1
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Really . . . who gives a F-ck.
Good luck Josh, you were okay I guess, I know you probably didn't like the prospect of actually you know . . . having to work for your starting job, and maybe dealing with Old Ball's propensity to yank QB's when they throw interceptions and fumble the ball and the offense isn't moving.
Actually pretty smart on your part . . . your coddled life at KSU was over, and it's best to go earn some jack and hold a clipboard.
+1
QFT
If Coffman or Everidge (two years ago) had been given a fair shot, they would have lead tha CATS to at least 8 more wins.
They would have easily beat out that lazy ass Freeman.
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How about we don't throw the best player on the team under the bus? Not a sermon, just a thought.
:powertard:
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Really . . . who gives a F-ck.
Good luck Josh, you were okay I guess, I know you probably didn't like the prospect of actually you know . . . having to work for your starting job, and maybe dealing with Old Ball's propensity to yank QB's when they throw interceptions and fumble the ball and the offense isn't moving.
Actually pretty smart on your part . . . your coddled life at KSU was over, and it's best to go earn some jack and hold a clipboard.
+1
QFT
If Coffman or Everidge (two years ago) had been given a fair shot, they would have lead tha CATS to at least 8 more wins.
They would have easily beat out that lazy ass Freeman.
exactly. Coffman and AE were/are so good they could block for themselves and play all 11 positions on defense.
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How about we don't throw the best player on the team under the bus? Not a sermon, just a thought.
:powertard:
Lick my taint. And stop overusing that, or the Mangino under your bed will eat you in your sleep.
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Really . . . who gives a F-ck.
Good luck Josh, you were okay I guess, I know you probably didn't like the prospect of actually you know . . . having to work for your starting job, and maybe dealing with Old Ball's propensity to yank QB's when they throw interceptions and fumble the ball and the offense isn't moving.
Actually pretty smart on your part . . . your coddled life at KSU was over, and it's best to go earn some jack and hold a clipboard.
+1
QFT
If Coffman or Everidge (two years ago) had been given a fair shot, they would have lead tha CATS to at least 8 more wins.
They would have easily beat out that lazy ass Freeman.
exactly. Coffman and AE were/are so good they could block for themselves and play all 11 positions on defense.
qmft
AE was in a bowl game
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Freeman is more likely a Jeremetrius Butler scenario.
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Chiefs should take him.
lmao
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
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:suicideispainless:
:AzCatBS: on you golden boy
:mad:
fatty, i'll be expecting a masterpiece for the best qb in ksu histoire
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Well, at least he doesn't have to play MU, NU, and ku anymore. So his chances at success should be higher...:dunno:
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Well, at least he doesn't have to play MU, NU, and ku anymore. So his chances at success should be higher...:dunno:
also he won't have Ksu's defense, oline, and rb's.
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
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I heard that TP had some family issues that played into his decision. Josh's old man does quite well. Maybe apples and oranges here on the "decision" side of this issue.
Family issues, you say?
That's correct.
As I understand it, Terry assisted his uncle with substantial legal bills. His uncle established himself as the number one importer of heroin in the Harlem district of Manhattan. He did so by buying heroin directly from the source in South East Asia and he came up with a unique way of importing the drugs into the United States...on military cargo shipments. As a result, his product was superior to what is currently available on the street and his prices were lower. His alliance with the New York Mafia ensured his position.
I just finished watching that movie about 15 minutes ago. Haha
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I hope to God your next quarterback is as awesome as Freeman.
:dancin:
Freems has talent. You really can't argue that. The NFL places more value on Freems than they do on Reesing, for example. However, Reesing played in a system that was vastly superior to Freems.
As a quarterback Freeman sucked d*ck in college, not sure how that translates to NFL talent.
But if talent means 6'6", dude had it in spades.
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
Might be Qwhom's now that I think of it, with a silent "Q" even...
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:suicideispainless:
:AzCatBS: on you golden boy
:mad:
qft. stop defending freeman you fracks.
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I hope to God your next quarterback is as awesome as Freeman.
:dancin:
Freems has talent. You really can't argue that. The NFL places more value on Freems than they do on Reesing, for example. However, Reesing played in a system that was vastly superior to Freems.
As a quarterback Freeman sucked d*ck in college, not sure how that translates to NFL talent.
But if talent means 6'6", dude had it in spades.
I know you know all about sucking d*ck, but Freeman really didn't in college. Look back at ku's QB's before Reesing, those guys knew sucking d*ck all too well.
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
Who = subject
Whom = object
Verbs can only conjugate with subjects, hence "whom's" (whom is) does not compute in the English language.
The original statement (who's) is the correct one. :cyclist:
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
Who = subject
Whom = object
Verbs can only conjugate with subjects, hence "whom's" (whom is) does not compute in the English language.
The original statement (who's) is the correct one. :cyclist:
ahhhhhh
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I hope to God your next quarterback is as awesome as Freeman.
:dancin:
Freems has talent. You really can't argue that. The NFL places more value on Freems than they do on Reesing, for example. However, Reesing played in a system that was vastly superior to Freems.
As a quarterback Freeman sucked d*ck in college, not sure how that translates to NFL talent.
But if talent means 6'6", dude had it in spades.
I know you know all about sucking d*ck, but Freeman really didn't in college. Look back at ku's QB's before Reesing, those guys knew sucking d*ck all too well.
Josh Freeman = black Brian Luke
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Damn poet, I used to like you... but how could you? Friends with fitz..... really?
I think he meant Terry. Pretty sure Fitz and Poet still hate each other.
Nope, Fitz.
We're like this :hope:
Terry and I will have our differences to work out over time.
But love can overcome all.
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I wish the best to freems!
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Pretty sure if you look through the archives you will in fact discover that I am much less gay than most ksufans
probably true. but, i'm not talking about moldy archived records, i'm talking about clean, aristocratic, boston brahminy pete carroll.
I suppose the appropriate reply to this would be, "Not my type."
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Selfish, poor decisions hurt Kansas State.
I think we can all agree on that.
Of course, lets ignore what he did for us and only think about what MORE he should have done for the team... wait, that would be selfish, now I'm confused... :jerkoff:
Fitz fan?
You must not have heard we're good friends now.
Naturally, pull the Fitz reference like 90% of other people with nothing to say...
But nope, didn't hear that, but I'd be more apt to believe it if I heard it from him.
Just recall you being Tardy. Could be mistaken.
Fitzzers stick together.
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stop taking pw so damned seriously you frackers.
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Ron Prince and his apprentice Josh Freeman plotting the final destruction of K-State football:
(http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/star_wars__episode_iii__revenge_of_the_sith/_group_photos/hayden_christensen201.jpg)
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Selfish, poor decisions hurt Kansas State.
I think we can all agree on that.
Of course, lets ignore what he did for us and only think about what MORE he should have done for the team... wait, that would be selfish, now I'm confused... :jerkoff:
Fitz fan?
You must not have heard we're good friends now.
Naturally, pull the Fitz reference like 90% of other people with nothing to say...
But nope, didn't hear that, but I'd be more apt to believe it if I heard it from him.
Just recall you being Tardy. Could be mistaken.
Fitzzers stick together.
Right, again, the answer given by morons who have nothing to say, "well, you listen to fitz".
Amazing how I point out that you have nothing to say, and you just prove it again.
You were there once too, as was a lot of this board.
The least you could do is try...
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Right, again, the answer given by morons who have nothing to say, "well, you listen to fitz".
Amazing how I point out that you have nothing to say, and you just prove it again.
You were there once too, as was a lot of this board.
The least you could do is try...
You tell me what you want me to try and do and I'll try and do it...
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Ron Prince and his apprentice Josh Freeman plotting the final destruction of K-State football:
(http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/hv/photo/movie_pix/twentieth_century_fox/star_wars__episode_iii__revenge_of_the_sith/_group_photos/hayden_christensen201.jpg)
star wars :billypopcorn:
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
Who = subject
Whom = object
Verbs can only conjugate with subjects, hence "whom's" (whom is) does not compute in the English language.
The original statement (who's) is the correct one. :cyclist:
Whose. :users:
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
Who = subject
Whom = object
Verbs can only conjugate with subjects, hence "whom's" (whom is) does not compute in the English language.
The original statement (who's) is the correct one. :cyclist:
Whose. :users:
Nope, "whose" is a possessive pronoun. It needs to possess something. Like another noun.
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Right, again, the answer given by morons who have nothing to say, "well, you listen to fitz".
Amazing how I point out that you have nothing to say, and you just prove it again.
You were there once too, as was a lot of this board.
The least you could do is try...
If I have to tell you, it's a lot less fun.
But go ahead and ignore that you once too posted "there", now how is that different from me? Because you were banned and I chose to leave because it sucked? Thats the only difference I see, but POOF, I'm with Fitzy... genius :notworthy:
You tell me what you want me to try and do and I'll try and do it...
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As in, "Whose cup is this?"
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i have a secret insider source who received an email that said that Snyder personally cleaned out Freeman's locker. Freems wanted to stay but Bill said he was a worthless mother fracker and Bill needed his jersey number for this guy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYQxcFJowas (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYQxcFJowas) Freem's offered to switch #'s but Bill told him to frack off after calling freems a fracking pussy. Bill = :love:
:ksu:
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you people are f'ing idiots. If the defense got as better, year from year, as Josh did from his freshman year, we'd be playing today. completely f'ing idiots. It's tough to "lead" a team when the OL sucks complete donkey d*ck, you have no running back, and your defense has the resistancy of air.
Michael Bishop was a "leader" because he had an NFL line in front of him, an NFL-caliber wide reciever, an NFL caliber RB, and a defense that was littered with NFL players. Same for J. Beasley and E. Roberson. f'ing idiots. I mean, do you think D. Meier's problem was that he didn't have "fire"? No, he had zero talent and so did the team around him. Same for AE. They had no talent, Josh does it's just a shame that no one else on the team does/did.
When did Josh make these great improvements? His best record as a starter was his first season. The best game I ever saw him play was his freshman year at CU when he was darn near perfect. I think the only game winning TD drive he ever had and the only really memorable big play he ever had was in his career first start vs. OSU.
Josh has talent but honestly I don't think he developed much at all during his career. Sure he learned the offense better and learned to read defenses better but he never really learned to lead and never learned to win. If anything he got worse as his career went along because the losses and turnovers got in his head and he was thinking too much, he was best his first year when he just went out and played. ku fans will love this but I don't think he was ever the same after the game in Lawrence his freshman year when he turned it over like 6 times or whatever it was. From that game on Josh kind of froze in the bigger games and was turnover prone. The same kind of thing happened to Chase Daniel this year he was never the same after the loss to Okie State.
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If I have to tell you, it's a lot less fun.
But go ahead and ignore that you once too posted "there", now how is that different from me? Because you were banned and I chose to leave because it sucked? Thats the only difference I see, but POOF, I'm with Fitzy... genius :notworthy:
Yes, I posted on gopowercat. And loved every second of it.
Anything else?
Let's be friends. OK?
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If I have to tell you, it's a lot less fun.
But go ahead and ignore that you once too posted "there", now how is that different from me? Because you were banned and I chose to leave because it sucked? Thats the only difference I see, but POOF, I'm with Fitzy... genius :notworthy:
Yes, I posted on gopowercat. And loved every second of it.
Anything else?
Let's be friends. OK?
Man, you are abrasive, lol.
My point is, it's stupid for people here to bash on other people for posting there, because 90% of us did it... and we're all morons.
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As in, "Whose cup is this?"
Yep.
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Somehow we got off topic.
:PCknockout:
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you people are f'ing idiots. If the defense got as better, year from year, as Josh did from his freshman year, we'd be playing today. completely f'ing idiots. It's tough to "lead" a team when the OL sucks complete donkey d*ck, you have no running back, and your defense has the resistancy of air.
Michael Bishop was a "leader" because he had an NFL line in front of him, an NFL-caliber wide reciever, an NFL caliber RB, and a defense that was littered with NFL players. Same for J. Beasley and E. Roberson. f'ing idiots. I mean, do you think D. Meier's problem was that he didn't have "fire"? No, he had zero talent and so did the team around him. Same for AE. They had no talent, Josh does it's just a shame that no one else on the team does/did.
When did Josh make these great improvements? His best record as a starter was his first season. The best game I ever saw him play was his freshman year at CU when he was darn near perfect. I think the only game winning TD drive he ever had and the only really memorable big play he ever had was in his career first start vs. OSU.
Josh has talent but honestly I don't think he developed much at all during his career. Sure he learned the offense better and learned to read defenses better but he never really learned to lead and never learned to win. If anything he got worse as his career went along because the losses and turnovers got in his head and he was thinking too much, he was best his first year when he just went out and played. ku fans will love this but I don't think he was ever the same after the game in Lawrence his freshman year when he turned it over like 6 times or whatever it was. From that game on Josh kind of froze in the bigger games and was turnover prone. The same kind of thing happened to Chase Daniel this year he was never the same after the loss to Okie State.
were you even paying attention? he couldn't play every goddamn position. was he perfect? no, but he made improvements, no one else did.
Eff Comp % Yds ypg TD/INT Ru TD
2006 103.5 52% 1780 161.8 6/15 2
2007 127.3 63% 3353 279.4 18/11 4
2008 136.5 59% 2945 245.4 20/8 14
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This thread is over.
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Somehow we got off topic.
:PCknockout:
Agreed, let me reset it...
PW thinks Freeman will fail in the NFL and compares what Freeman will do to what TP did.
There, back to how it was.
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Somehow we got off topic.
:PCknockout:
Agreed, let me reset it...
PW thinks Freeman will fail in the NFL and compares what Freeman will do to what TP did.
There, back to how it was.
100% incorrect.
lol (< correct?)
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The difference is Josh will have a long, successful NFL career.
What would make you think that? He didn't have an especially successful college career. Taking those same "skills" to the NFL may result in a short stay... unless there's a pro team that somehow needs a QB who's big, strong, panicky, fumble & interception-prone, has no "command presence", and poor on-field decision-making.
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:suicideispainless:
:AzCatBS: on you golden boy
:mad:
qft. stop defending freeman you fracks.
sorry d00d, I don't hate the player, I hate the game. :koolaid:
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If I have to tell you, it's a lot less fun.
But go ahead and ignore that you once too posted "there", now how is that different from me? Because you were banned and I chose to leave because it sucked? Thats the only difference I see, but POOF, I'm with Fitzy... genius :notworthy:
Yes, I posted on gopowercat. And loved every second of it.
Anything else?
Let's be friends. OK?
Man, you are abrasive, lol.
My point is, it's stupid for people here to bash on other people for posting there, because 90% of us did it... and we're all morons.
so, am I not a moron because I never posted there.... does that go both ways? :dunno:
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This thread makes me want to pop The Empire Strikes Back into the DVD player. :popcorn:
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
Who = subject
Whom = object
Verbs can only conjugate with subjects, hence "whom's" (whom is) does not compute in the English language.
The original statement (who's) is the correct one. :cyclist:
Whose. :users:
Nope, "whose" is a possessive pronoun. It needs to possess something. Like another noun.
nope, cd33 is right on hear. sorry guys.
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you people are f'ing idiots. If the defense got as better, year from year, as Josh did from his freshman year, we'd be playing today. completely f'ing idiots. It's tough to "lead" a team when the OL sucks complete donkey d*ck, you have no running back, and your defense has the resistancy of air.
Michael Bishop was a "leader" because he had an NFL line in front of him, an NFL-caliber wide reciever, an NFL caliber RB, and a defense that was littered with NFL players. Same for J. Beasley and E. Roberson. f'ing idiots. I mean, do you think D. Meier's problem was that he didn't have "fire"? No, he had zero talent and so did the team around him. Same for AE. They had no talent, Josh does it's just a shame that no one else on the team does/did.
When did Josh make these great improvements? His best record as a starter was his first season. The best game I ever saw him play was his freshman year at CU when he was darn near perfect. I think the only game winning TD drive he ever had and the only really memorable big play he ever had was in his career first start vs. OSU.
Josh has talent but honestly I don't think he developed much at all during his career. Sure he learned the offense better and learned to read defenses better but he never really learned to lead and never learned to win. If anything he got worse as his career went along because the losses and turnovers got in his head and he was thinking too much, he was best his first year when he just went out and played. ku fans will love this but I don't think he was ever the same after the game in Lawrence his freshman year when he turned it over like 6 times or whatever it was. From that game on Josh kind of froze in the bigger games and was turnover prone. The same kind of thing happened to Chase Daniel this year he was never the same after the loss to Okie State.
were you even paying attention? he couldn't play every goddamn position. was he perfect? no, but he made improvements, no one else did.
Eff Comp % Yds ypg TD/INT Ru TD
2006 103.5 52% 1780 161.8 6/15 2
2007 127.3 63% 3353 279.4 18/11 4
2008 136.5 59% 2945 245.4 20/8 14
Thank you.
I get so fracking tired of hearing "he never learned how to lead" or "he doesn't know how to win." What the frack do you expect him to do? Give an inspiring speech in the huddle? Tell the guys, "Hey, lets try to WIN this one, got it?"
Freeman improved. The wins did not, but that the TEAM'S fault, not fracking Freeman's.
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It's Freemans fault for thinking he's better off spending a year getting dominated in the NFL than studying under Snyder.
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It's Freemans fault for thinking he's better off spending a year getting dominated in the NFL than studying under Snyder.
Q: Why would spending a year playing Snyder's non-NFL system where he could potentially get hurt and then going in a draft class with many more good qbs and then getting paid significantly less because of the new agreement be better for Freeman?
A: It wouldn't.
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So is like Freeman the Most Hated Cat of All Time (MHCOAT) now?
Doubtful.
But what most others realize that many of you don't, is that you'll always be referring to 'potential' when remembering Josh Freeman. But the actual reality that we've all witnessed was a quarterback that had a size and build for it, but was mediocre even at his best and a colossal frack-up under pressure. And thats after all this 'massive improvement' from his freshman year.
He's like a Jason Bennett. Except you actually put all your eggs into the basket and instead of acknowledging the reality of his ineptitude, you persist into delusional fantasies that with a good team around him he would have been great.
He was lazy. He was narcissistic. And he wasn't a good quarterback.
i hate days like this
QFMFT
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you people are f'ing idiots. If the defense got as better, year from year, as Josh did from his freshman year, we'd be playing today. completely f'ing idiots. It's tough to "lead" a team when the OL sucks complete donkey d*ck, you have no running back, and your defense has the resistancy of air.
Michael Bishop was a "leader" because he had an NFL line in front of him, an NFL-caliber wide reciever, an NFL caliber RB, and a defense that was littered with NFL players. Same for J. Beasley and E. Roberson. f'ing idiots. I mean, do you think D. Meier's problem was that he didn't have "fire"? No, he had zero talent and so did the team around him. Same for AE. They had no talent, Josh does it's just a shame that no one else on the team does/did.
When did Josh make these great improvements? His best record as a starter was his first season. The best game I ever saw him play was his freshman year at CU when he was darn near perfect. I think the only game winning TD drive he ever had and the only really memorable big play he ever had was in his career first start vs. OSU.
Josh has talent but honestly I don't think he developed much at all during his career. Sure he learned the offense better and learned to read defenses better but he never really learned to lead and never learned to win. If anything he got worse as his career went along because the losses and turnovers got in his head and he was thinking too much, he was best his first year when he just went out and played. ku fans will love this but I don't think he was ever the same after the game in Lawrence his freshman year when he turned it over like 6 times or whatever it was. From that game on Josh kind of froze in the bigger games and was turnover prone. The same kind of thing happened to Chase Daniel this year he was never the same after the loss to Okie State.
were you even paying attention? he couldn't play every goddamn position. was he perfect? no, but he made improvements, no one else did.
Eff Comp % Yds ypg TD/INT Ru TD
2006 103.5 52% 1780 161.8 6/15 2
2007 127.3 63% 3353 279.4 18/11 4
2008 136.5 59% 2945 245.4 20/8 14
Thank you.
I get so fracking tired of hearing "he never learned how to lead" or "he doesn't know how to win." What the frack do you expect him to do? Give an inspiring speech in the huddle? Tell the guys, "Hey, lets try to WIN this one, got it?"
Freeman improved. The wins did not, but that the TEAM'S fault, not fracking Freeman's.
JFC what is wrong with you Freeman nutswingers? How many of those awesome TDs in his last year came against teams like LaLa TECH, a game which he helped to almost blow!
What the hell do you think an NFL coach is going to do when Freems gets into a division game and pisses down his leg? He couldnt win against teams he saw the most often and fell apart in ALL of those games. You dont go 0-6 against the same teams unless you are a &@#%ing pussy who has a coach jerking you off on the sidelines calling everyone around you a TP/FP and you can do no wrong. Snyder probably told that pussy that who ever comes in will get a shot to take his spot and he knew he would be warming the &@#%ing bench from them on.
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The one year KSU went to a bowl it had, by no coincidence, the best defense over the past 5 years...but it was the year Josh had the worst statistics.....so WTF does that tell you? If the defense was giving up 23ppg (like it did in '06) instead of 30+ ppg like it had in '07 and '08, Freeman would have "magically" been a leader.
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
Who = subject
Whom = object
Verbs can only conjugate with subjects, hence "whom's" (whom is) does not compute in the English language.
The original statement (who's) is the correct one. :cyclist:
Whose. :users:
Nope, "whose" is a possessive pronoun. It needs to possess something. Like another noun.
nope, cd33 is right on hear. sorry guys.
What's that? I couldn't here you.
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
Who = subject
Whom = object
Verbs can only conjugate with subjects, hence "whom's" (whom is) does not compute in the English language.
The original statement (who's) is the correct one. :cyclist:
Whose. :users:
Nope, "whose" is a possessive pronoun. It needs to possess something. Like another noun.
nope, cd33 is right on hear. sorry guys.
What's that? I couldn't here you.
was just saying that cd33 was wright and you guys were wrong.
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Who's throwing anyone under the bus. I made no opinion on the matter.
Whom's.
Wow, nothing like pointing out a grammar mistake... and being the one that's wrong...
Naw, pretty sure it's whom's.
Who = subject
Whom = object
Verbs can only conjugate with subjects, hence "whom's" (whom is) does not compute in the English language.
The original statement (who's) is the correct one. :cyclist:
Whose. :users:
Nope, "whose" is a possessive pronoun. It needs to possess something. Like another noun.
nope, cd33 is right on hear. sorry guys.
What's that? I couldn't here you.
was just saying that cd33 was wright and you guys were wrong.
ok, that makes since.
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the dude wants to get paid, what the hell did you expect him to do? his stock is going to rise incredible amounts in the next few months when the combine and pro days roll around. it honestly wouldn't surprise me if Freeman was a first round pick just because of his measurables. do I honestly think he will be? hell no, it wouldn't shock me if it did happen though.
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Good luck to Freem and all that obligatory :kstatriot: BS............
I just can't help but think how fun it would be to be our biggest Rivals for a day and have our amazing, record setting, cool named, first round draft pick, junior quarterback announce that he was coming back to school next year for his senior season.
An EMAW can only dream of such a ridiculous day................
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Freeman, Jordy, Sproles, Newman, etc. are dead to me right now. Don't wish any harm on them just don't care one way or another. I'm an EMAW'r not an ex-EMAW'r. I really hate the "look how good Sproles is doing" type threads. Unless they are bringing positive attention to KSU (they don't) then I could care less.
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Nothing to do with anything, really, but my grandpa is convinced that Chris Canty of the Dallas Cowboys is our Chris Canty. :lol:
Old people are great. I've considered keeping some sort of journal on the funny k-state related things that my gramps says.
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Nothing to do with anything, really, but my grandpa is convinced that Chris Canty of the Dallas Cowboys is our Chris Canty. :lol:
Old people are great. I've considered keeping some sort of journal on the funny k-state related things that my gramps says.
You should look into joining GoPowercat. You would go through a lot of journals, though.
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thought about it, but i have a hard time justifying paying to gain access to a message board. I browse through the free board, but it's boring.
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thought about it, but i have a hard time justifying paying to gain access to a message board. I browse through the free board, but it's boring.
question is will ksufans have a free board or will the whole site be premium......
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thought about it, but i have a hard time justifying paying to gain access to a message board. I browse through the free board, but it's boring.
question is will ksufans have a free board or will the whole site be premium......
ksufans can't survive without a free board.
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thought about it, but i have a hard time justifying paying to gain access to a message board. I browse through the free board, but it's boring.
question is will ksufans have a free board or will the whole site be premium......
Free board won't change. Everything you get now will still be here (I think)
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Freeman should have spent more time running the offense and less time running Tri Delt trains while he was here.
Some would argue that your logic is skewed...
TriDelt trains and a 2nd rd. draft pick, seems to be doing fine by me...
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thought about it, but i have a hard time justifying paying to gain access to a message board. I browse through the free board, but it's boring.
question is will ksufans have a free board or will the whole site be premium......
There will probably be a free board still.
A free board that will be desolate and abandoned once a new site with only a free board is found and is worthy.