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I made a point to watch him in the second half because the game was such a blow out, but he is the worst big we've had in the three decades I've watched K-State basketball. He has no instincts and might be afraid. He's never in the right position to rebound and when he is, by just sheer happenstance, he gets beat to the ball every single time.

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I know he isn't any good but my goodness the referees hate that dude. Both first half fouls were bad, the second one was just for boxing out, he didn't even back out just got into position. This is at least the third game I've seen this happen to him.

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:ROFL: oh my god, so small time, they look like a jostens class ring

What the hell kind of stones are those?

probably the same fake stones that you see in the bama/osu/clemson rings and yeah, actually they're all ordered through jostens
ncaa limits the value of these at $400 ...they sure aren't diamonds

Oh I knew the ones from Clemson, Alabama, and OSU weren't real, those would cost several thousands of dollars, I was just commenting on how horrible the UCF ones are, but like I said I don't even think they are real now.

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I'm mad that I hadn't already realized what mich pointed out re: barry having to wait for people to be in oscar's positions to get oscar's play rolling.  It would be nice to see a football "all-22" video of that all playing out.

It's a problem I've complained about with oscar (and college coaches in general). A general distrust of allowing players to make plays and thinking their sets and plays out of timeouts are way better than they are.

Mark Fox just drew up one of the best set plays I've ever seen in a late game situation and his players executed it flawlessly. Whatever Will Wade drew up it resulted in his point guard taking a 40 ft. runner with 3 seconds left, it was as bad as anything I've seen.

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:ROFL: oh my god, so small time, they look like a jostens class ring

What the hell kind of stones are those?
We don't agree on a lot, but holy crap exactly my thoughts when I looked at it. HS class ring

I'm not convinced it's not stainless steel with some topaz gemstones or some crap. wow

I'm not convinced it's not something our guy BEFR made with his 3D printer, especially as there's not a single other story about or picture of the finished rings on the whole internet.

Okay I see that there are also Alabama and Georgia logos on the rings, there is no way in hell those are real.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Wackycat Harvey Weinstein Thread
« on: January 16, 2018, 02:49:05 PM »
People shouldn't be lumped together with respect to what's appropriate to do or how sex advances should be received.

What does this mean? It might be appropriate to (1) talk your date into sex OR it might be appropriate to (2) take the action of trying to talk your date into sex as an unwanted advance? When someone of opinion 1 goes on a date with someone of opinion 2, that leads to the situation we are discussing. So even though you think people shouldn't be "lumped in" they are lumped into society together.

Some people might try the "claw" on a first date, many won't.  This guy did what he initially thought both people were there for, under the circumstances.  It was some combination of awkward and aggressive, imo.

Some people after going back to the other's apartment and one wanting to put the other on the kitchen counter would be disgusted and bust the white wine bottle upside the head and bounce.  Others might be way into it and even freakier and put their claw up the other's ass.  Others will do some awkward back-and-forth with clothes on and off and watching tv and some oral and then get an uber.

I don't take that story to say anything about men or women or society.

Most sane people wouldn't however mob mentality is definitely winning right now

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: The DACA masterpiece
« on: January 16, 2018, 02:40:32 PM »
It’s not racist to call certain countries shitholes. It is racist to call predominantly black and brown countries shitholes when contrasted to predominantly white countries.

He not only contrasted those countries with a predominantly white country, but he called for more immigrants from that white country. Which means he doesn't have a problem with immigration, he has a problem with darked skinned immigrants.

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"national western"

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and found a club that wants him

That's the biggest WTF for me. I think the number of MLS teams that would sign him is less than 5, I can't think of one actually.

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I missed the "AU BEAT BOTH FINALISTS" on the bottom of the ring :lol: why would you point out other "finalists" on your championship ring?

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just to compare




Yes, the actual real national champion gets two national championship rings

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 :ROFL: oh my god, so small time, they look like a jostens class ring

What the hell kind of stones are those?

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Didn't watch Ok St & Baylor. Looked at box score. It was a tight game (1 pt Baylor lead with 14-15 minutes to play). Then Lecomte and Bears went off. 43 pts in next 21 Possessions. He ended with 30

I watched, both of those teams are gross but Baylor's bigs are going to harm us.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Wackycat Harvey Weinstein Thread
« on: January 16, 2018, 10:18:46 AM »
I would guess Aziz had a normal amount of sexual encounters before he was famous. He went to NYU and involved in comedy before parks and rec. And he's obviously a charismatic guy.

He's a 5'5" Indian, the NYU crowd is exactly the type to look down on a 5'5", weird, dark skinned dude who isn't famous.
:rolleyes:

Roll your eyes all you want to. You live in a world where liberals don't discriminate against Asians or show dating preferences to people that look like them, I don't live I that world. Two Americas.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: The DACA masterpiece
« on: January 15, 2018, 11:17:21 PM »
Here’s the dirty little secret: Dem politicos don’t care any more about these illegal immigrants than the Pubs do - maybe less.

You're normalizing your racism again, it's just you, no one else. It's not a Democrat or Republican thing, your racism is all yours.

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Wackycat Harvey Weinstein Thread
« on: January 15, 2018, 11:13:35 PM »
I would guess Aziz had a normal amount of sexual encounters before he was famous. He went to NYU and involved in comedy before parks and rec. And he's obviously a charismatic guy.

He's a 5'5" Indian, the NYU crowd is exactly the type to look down on a 5'5", weird, dark skinned dude who isn't famous.

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How in the hell does Teddy Allen sit with that half-court offense as bad as it is?

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Wackycat Harvey Weinstein Thread
« on: January 15, 2018, 06:26:56 PM »
Yeah, I don't think anything he did was assault. I do think that with his history of speaking out on this kind of thing, I'd have expected more respectful behavior (i.e. not trying to get her to continue after she clearly said she was uncomfortable). But it worked (she blew him after the plan was to just chill on the couch), so.....

I definitely think women have to take responsibility for saying no when they mean no. If a guy asks if he can pull out his penis and you say yes, under no duress, you can't later claim that you felt like you couldn't say no because he was a big star.

And in Aziz's cause, the woman had lots of opportunities to leave. She made no mention of ever feeling threatened or like he would hurt her or anything if she attempted to leave. Also, all of her non-verbal cues mean nothing. Guys aren't paying attention enough to pick up on those. The only things that matter are when she actually told him she was uncomfortable and needed to slow down. (Now, how clear was she on that? I don't know. Did she mumble or did she say it clearly?) But his actions don't fit the image I previously had of him. (Maybe that's on me for thinking his real personally was in line with his public persona.)

Also, the culture that most men grew up with is that it is perfectly normal for the guy to talk a woman (or girl) into sex. As MIR says, this isn't going to change overnight. I recognize that. Also, I imagine it is kind of awkward to get consent at every step of the process especially for people who are not all that talkative during sex in the first place.
Hopefully the things happening now will change the mindset of the boys who are coming of age now. (Not sure if it will though.)

As far as the nonverbal cues go, I'd be willing to bet that we'll find, in due time, that at some point of arousal there has to be some biology that comes into play that makes things like this a little more difficult to pick up on.

To speak to your last point, the actual last sentence, one part of this movement and newfound time of awareness is how the inexperience of young men come into play when dealing with all of this stuff. Again, it's important to parse all of this, as in most cases the line you don't cross is big, bold, and well defined. However, ensuring that you have full consent, every step of the way, can get confusing and cumbersome if you already don't know what in the hell you're doing in the bedroom. I don't want to make excuses for the dude, like I said, I never acted like Aziz did when I was single, but he doesn't strike me as a dude that got a lot of experience before he was famous, and just because he is now, that doesn't mean he is just raking it in every night, his behaviour doesn't speak to someone getting it in on the reg. And even for Aziz, this dude was just a regular guy, then he becomes famous, and the rules on how women interact with him gets completely flipped. How many times you think that guy is told no when he gets to that point?

It's all so complicated, maybe the religiously devout have it right, you won't have to worry about being confused if you're not getting it in until your wedding night.

https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/01/the-humiliation-of-aziz-ansari/550541/

Interesting that my FB friend who posted this an hour ago has already removed it....

The feminists mob are fighting that article hard. FWIW, I think race is a factor here, just maybe not in the way the author framed it. This guy grew up as a tiny Muslim Indian in South Carolina, he went from that to a wealthy celebrity that is still a tiny Muslim Indian man. How many meaningful sexual experiences did he have before he was famous and how does his sex as a famous dude informs his interactions with women in his condo?

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That's fantastic wb :D

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The New Joe Montgomery Birther Pit / Re: Wackycat Harvey Weinstein Thread
« on: January 15, 2018, 08:26:39 AM »
That is really disappointing. If he was just some guy 5 years ago acting like that, I would say that he is a product of our culture where men are encouraged to talk women into sex. But now in light of everything that has happened recently and his particular experience and knowledge, there is no excuse or reason for that behavior.

Although, why would you go ahead and perform oral on someone that you already decided was acting creepy/assaulting you?

The aspect of this whole movement that most miss is that there is a large swath of women who don't want men to essentially sit around and wait for explicit consent. Despite the me too movement taking hold, changing hundreds of years of bedroom dynamics will take a little more than a couple of months to change.

If we're putting this in the same category as Harvey Weinstein and Bill Cosby then we will always have this issue. Women, don't agree how the sensual interaction should ideally go so how should men know that? In this specific case these people had mutual oral sex, she did not consent, he didn't have intercourse with her. She leaves, expresses to him that she was not comfortable with how things went down, he apologized. Isn't this exactly what consent looks like? Yes, he was persistent, a lot more than I would be, but by definition he never violated consent. She definitely has the right to consent to oral but not sexual intercourse, I don't even think that's all that unusual.

I think the only unseemly part of this is that we know it happened and the out of control mob that fail to understand the consequences of not being able to apply context and nuance.

Honestly speaking, if this constitutes assault there are a lot of men and women who are assailants who previously thought nothing of the interaction. We probably shouldn't leave it up to twitter to redefine the legal definition of assault because this woman didn't want to feel pressure to have sex after oral.

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6, 7, 13, 17, 22, 29, 30, 41, 65, 70 v 5, 10, 11, 13, 27, 38, 43, 44, 57, 97.

That has nothing to with what you replied to

 :rolleyes:

Yeah exactly

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It would have been huge to have Maurice this year.

You must have forgotten what Maurice was for the program.
For the program? I'm not sure what you mean. Didnt he get kicked off the team?

I was trying a very nice way of saying that he wasn't very good and I think you don't remember the lack of an impact he had.

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Moreover, Self and KU players said they prepared for the play because we ran it at the end of the game a year ago. If Oscar was a 3-D chessmaster he would have had a counter to it involving a couple of the three non-entitites he apparently doesn't trust.

People keep bringing this up as if it's some indictment of oscar when it isn't at all. It's not football they aren't choosing from a hundred plays, it's like a half dozen. It would be an indictment of Self if he didn't have an idea of what was coming. KU runs the same end game play so often that not only do most know the action but they know the actual play call, it's called Chop.

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I'm mad that I hadn't already realized what mich pointed out re: barry having to wait for people to be in oscar's positions to get oscar's play rolling.  It would be nice to see a football "all-22" video of that all playing out.

It's a problem I've complained about with oscar (and college coaches in general). A general distrust of allowing players to make plays and thinking their sets and plays out of timeouts are way better than they are.

I know everyone is slobbering all over Chris Beard, and for good reason, but yesterday he had an over coaching hall of fame moment. Dude called three time outs yesterday, in overtime, each with his team on the line, and WVU out of timeouts, to remind his team to play half court man to man and not foul.

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I mean, sure the fact that it was the last possession instead of the next-to-last possession made it different, but that seems like an unlikely OK/meltdown threshold

That's all I was saying, friend.

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