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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2011, 03:36:45 PM »
In the gym and Sandstorm just came on my iPod.  Literally got choked up.

It's never going to be like that again, is it?
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2011, 03:39:53 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 03:31:37 PM
Even worse, that last 10 minutes brought back a lot of bad memories.  It looked a lot (A LOT) like a Wooly coached team.  Play well in spurts, then in crunch time no one wants to step up and make a play.  Allow teams to absolutely control stretches of games to stay in it, then put it away.   

Thanks, you just ruined my 2011.
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2011, 03:41:42 PM »
Quote from: kougar24 on January 08, 2011, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 03:31:37 PM
Even worse, that last 10 minutes brought back a lot of bad memories.  It looked a lot (A LOT) like a Wooly coached team.  Play well in spurts, then in crunch time no one wants to step up and make a play.  Allow teams to absolutely control stretches of games to stay in it, then put it away.   

Thanks, you just ruined my 2011.

Don't worry, this means we are going to take some 10-12 point losses and turn them into "almost" 3-5 point losses with a furious comeback in the last 3 minutes later in the season.
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2011, 03:42:50 PM »
Wooly-esque players = Wooly-esque results
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2011, 03:45:47 PM »
Pretty much ALL our bigs stunk it up -- and I'm not giving Samuels a pass just because he wasn't atrocious like everyone else. Complain about PGs and offensive sets all you want, but our bigs lost this one for us. They were horrific. Look at the numbers:

Freddy: 9 minutes, 0 points, 2 rebounds, 0 turnovers, 5 fouls.
Wally: 25 minutes, 4 points, 5 rebounds, 5 turnovers, 5 fouls.
JHR: 9 minutes, 0 points, 3 rebounds, 1 turnover, 5 fouls.
Vic: 9 minutes, 2 points, 4 rebounds, 0 turnovers, 0 fouls.
SamuelsR: 26 minutes, 8 points, 4 rebounds, 5 turnovers, 5 fouls.

That's a grand total of 78 minutes, 14 points, 18 rebounds, 11 turnovers, and 20 fouls. That's some really really awful post play. It's just beyond comprehension how awful these guys are.

I think I'll become a Cyclone fan. At least they can win a game! :-)
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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2011, 03:46:25 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 03:41:42 PM
Quote from: kougar24 on January 08, 2011, 03:39:53 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 03:31:37 PM
Even worse, that last 10 minutes brought back a lot of bad memories.  It looked a lot (A LOT) like a Wooly coached team.  Play well in spurts, then in crunch time no one wants to step up and make a play.  Allow teams to absolutely control stretches of games to stay in it, then put it away.   

Thanks, you just ruined my 2011.

Don't worry, this means we are going to take some 10-12 point losses and turn them into "almost" 3-5 point losses with a furious comeback in the last 3 minutes later in the season.

Thanks, you just ruined my 2011.
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2011, 03:55:27 PM »
Quote from: Acceleration Man on January 08, 2011, 03:45:47 PM
I think I'll become a Cyclone fan.

stfu.  i hope doc kills you dumbfucks.
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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2011, 04:14:59 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
Oboards b/c we don't get position.  Foul after foul.  Dumb TOs.  OSU gets to the line 43 times. 

Still, a 49-41 lead with 9:26 left in the game.  Then give up 35 points that last 9 and a half minutes.  Unbelievable. 

Trying to stay positive, but this may not be a tournament team.  And it may get worse before it gets better.

Didn't read the rest of the thread, but I'm surprised at you _fan. This was a bad performance for sure but did you really expect us to win this one? Understandable loss to me, all factors considered. This is nowhere near a top five team, obviously, and at times an incredibly hard team to watch, but a tournament team? Sure. We'll still win plenty of conference games. This team, at this point in the season was not ready to win this kind of game, and I never really expected a win going in.
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2011, 04:20:10 PM »
Texas is our fallback bandwagon team you effs.
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« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2011, 04:24:18 PM »
Quote from: Benja on January 08, 2011, 04:14:59 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
Oboards b/c we don't get position.  Foul after foul.  Dumb TOs.  OSU gets to the line 43 times.  

Still, a 49-41 lead with 9:26 left in the game.  Then give up 35 points that last 9 and a half minutes.  Unbelievable.  

Trying to stay positive, but this may not be a tournament team.  And it may get worse before it gets better.

Didn't read the rest of the thread, but I'm surprised at you _fan. This was a bad performance for sure but did you really expect us to win this one? Understandable loss to me, all factors considered. This is nowhere near a top five team, obviously, and at times an incredibly hard team to watch, but a tournament team? Sure. We'll still win plenty of conference games. This team, at this point in the season was not ready to win this kind of game, and I never really expected a win going in.

I expected a win. OSU is okay, but probably an NIT level team. I think a tournament team wins that game, let alone a top 5 team.
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« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2011, 04:26:41 PM »
I know this was an extremely annoying way to lose a game, but I don't really see how this is a game to freak out about. If you couldn't see the same glaring weaknesses weeks ago against UF and UNLV and such, I don't really know what to tell ya. Winning on the road consistently against above average teams is tough and this team especially at this point in time isn't good enough to piss down their legs like they did and still have any chance to pull one out. I hate this team a lot of the time, but eff, who didn't see this one coming?
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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2011, 04:28:39 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: Benja on January 08, 2011, 04:14:59 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
Oboards b/c we don't get position.  Foul after foul.  Dumb TOs.  OSU gets to the line 43 times. 

Still, a 49-41 lead with 9:26 left in the game.  Then give up 35 points that last 9 and a half minutes.  Unbelievable. 

Trying to stay positive, but this may not be a tournament team.  And it may get worse before it gets better.

Didn't read the rest of the thread, but I'm surprised at you _fan. This was a bad performance for sure but did you really expect us to win this one? Understandable loss to me, all factors considered. This is nowhere near a top five team, obviously, and at times an incredibly hard team to watch, but a tournament team? Sure. We'll still win plenty of conference games. This team, at this point in the season was not ready to win this kind of game, and I never really expected a win going in.

I expected a win. OSU is okay, but probably an NIT level team. I think a tournament team wins that game, let alone a top 5 team.

And we could of won. We pissed down our legs and we aren't good enough to overcome that. Losses like this will happen in league play. I dunno, part of me is squarely on your side, trust me, but I guess I'm saving my meltdown energy for later.
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2011, 04:31:35 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2011, 04:32:13 PM »
This was an incredibly winnable game for any kind of top 20 team.
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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2011, 04:32:43 PM »
meh.
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« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2011, 04:34:03 PM »
We crumble under the slightest bit of adversity this year. It's so strange to witness.
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« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2011, 04:54:28 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 03:31:37 PM
Even worse, that last 10 minutes brought back a lot of bad memories.  It looked a lot (A LOT) like a Wooly coached team.  Play well in spurts, then in crunch time no one wants to step up and make a play.  Allow teams to absolutely control stretches of games to stay in it, then put it away.   

Quote from: wooldridge after another 1-pt loss
They made a play and we didn't
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« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2011, 04:57:06 PM »
8 minutes without making a FG after Mcgruds's 3 put us up by 8. :sigh:
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« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2011, 04:58:33 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 04:57:06 PM
8 minutes without making a FG after Mcgruds's 3 put us up by 8. :sigh:

There must've been a bunch of backdoor cuts given up on the other end that caused our lack of execution on offense, right?
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« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2011, 05:35:43 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 04:57:06 PM
8 minutes without making a FG after Mcgruds's 3 put us up by 8. :sigh:

they made some plays, and sometimes didn't, but mostly did; while we didn't.  for 8 minutes.
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« Reply #45 on: January 08, 2011, 06:04:55 PM »
[miniturnoutthelights]
I suppose the frustration with this one is b/c of the optimist in me.  Even with the disappointment of the OOC, I still had some pretty solid hope (silly, I know) that Frank would get things fixed over break and the great season we were expecting was going to happen.  Maybe not win the league, but contend for the league at least well into February and finish with 3 or 4 losses.  Today its pretty clear that is highly unlikely; please forgive my blind optimism for still thinking it was possible. 

This team likely will do some of the things Frank's teams do; win games we don't expect and lose games we don't expect.  It will could still finish 9-7ish in the league and be a 8/9 seed or something and still make the tournament.  I'd say that is probably even likely. In most years that would be a pretty good season for a K-State basketball fan, but after Elite 8/#3/Preseason Big 12 Champs/etc., even for me it will be disappointing. 
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« Reply #46 on: January 08, 2011, 06:13:09 PM »
Quote from: sys on January 08, 2011, 05:35:43 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 04:57:06 PM
8 minutes without making a FG after Mcgruds's 3 put us up by 8. :sigh:

they made some plays, and sometimes didn't, but mostly did; while we didn't.  for 8 minutes.

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« Reply #47 on: January 08, 2011, 06:25:16 PM »
Quote from: Limestone on January 08, 2011, 04:32:13 PM
This was an incredibly winnable game for any kind of top 20 team.

This is true, at least that is the perception today. Let's see what OSU does for the remainder of the season. We're not a top 25 team currently. Sure would have been nice to see CK in the post today, things likely end differently. For one thing JHR does not see the floor as much.

We're the 2nd youngest team in the conference. Gallagher Iba is never an easy place to win (although if ever there were a time, did you see all the empty seats in the upper deck?). Marshall Moses may be the most improved player in the conference. I still say Travis Ford is a top 4-5 coach in the conference. People may be sleeping on the Pokes. Let's hope so. We'll be 2-1 going to Columbia with CK, that will be a huge measuring stick.

Comparing the talent on this team to the Wooly era is a complete overreaction though.

Best part of this game - Frank's Powercat boots.
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« Reply #48 on: January 08, 2011, 06:46:45 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 06:04:55 PM
[miniturnoutthelights]
I suppose the frustration with this one is b/c of the optimist in me.  Even with the disappointment of the OOC, I still had some pretty solid hope (silly, I know) that Frank would get things fixed over break and the great season we were expecting was going to happen.  Maybe not win the league, but contend for the league at least well into February and finish with 3 or 4 losses.  Today its pretty clear that is highly unlikely; please forgive my blind optimism for still thinking it was possible. 

This team likely will do some of the things Frank's teams do; win games we don't expect and lose games we don't expect.  It will could still finish 9-7ish in the league and be a 8/9 seed or something and still make the tournament.  I'd say that is probably even likely. In most years that would be a pretty good season for a K-State basketball fan, but after Elite 8/#3/Preseason Big 12 Champs/etc., even for me it will be disappointing. 
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Exactly. This is more or less how I have felt since unlv.
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #49 on: January 08, 2011, 06:56:41 PM »
we don't have an effing play maker with the ball in his hands, or the intestinal fortitude to take the shot.  JPullz is like the guy from UT last year that scored his points and went home.  A win was just a plus  :dunno:
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