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Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« on: January 08, 2011, 02:37:31 PM »
Oboards b/c we don't get position.  Foul after foul.  Dumb TOs.  OSU gets to the line 43 times. 

Still, a 49-41 lead with 9:26 left in the game.  Then give up 35 points that last 9 and a half minutes.  Unbelievable. 

Trying to stay positive, but this may not be a tournament team.  And it may get worse before it gets better.


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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2011, 02:38:32 PM »
JYC have been dead since the first half of big 12 play last season
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2011, 02:39:08 PM »
TURN OUT THE LIGHTS ON THIS TEAM[/size]
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2011, 02:40:45 PM »
Don't do this to me _fan. If you lose all hope, what am I to believe in?
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2011, 02:42:08 PM »
I'm just saying there is no way that a Top 3-4 team in this league should lose that game, especially seemingly being in control at the 9 and 1/2 minute mark.
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2011, 02:42:11 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
Oboards b/c we don't get position.  Foul after foul.  Dumb TOs.  OSU gets to the line 43 times. 

Still, a 49-41 lead with 9:26 left in the game.  Then give up 35 points that last 9 and a half minutes.  Unbelievable. 

Trying to stay positive, but this may not be a tournament team.  And it may get worse before it gets better.

Quick question: still think Asprilla isn't garbage?
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2011, 02:43:10 PM »
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2011, 02:44:04 PM »
Quote from: kougar24 on January 08, 2011, 02:42:11 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
Oboards b/c we don't get position.  Foul after foul.  Dumb TOs.  OSU gets to the line 43 times. 

Still, a 49-41 lead with 9:26 left in the game.  Then give up 35 points that last 9 and a half minutes.  Unbelievable. 

Trying to stay positive, but this may not be a tournament team.  And it may get worse before it gets better.

Quick question: still think Asprilla isn't garbage?

Meh.  Asprilla is still what I thought he'd be, but a bunch of the guys on this team are not.  I'd rather focus on them.
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2011, 02:44:25 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:37:31 PM
Oboards b/c we don't get position.  Foul after foul.  Dumb TOs.  OSU gets to the line 43 times. 

Still, a 49-41 lead with 9:26 left in the game.  Then give up 35 points that last 9 and a half minutes.  Unbelievable. 

Trying to stay positive, but this may not be a tournament team.  And it may get worse before it gets better.

I need to go back but I called this years kats last years tejas. They will fly high early and fall very very far.

Im sorry, just telling you guys what I see in the magic crystal bally thing.

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« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2011, 02:46:37 PM »
The weird thing is we played amazing JYC ball in stretches of this game.  At times OSU could do nothing offensively. But then the last 10 minutes I have no answer for; giving up 35 points in 10 minutes is ridiculous.
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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2011, 02:47:50 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:46:37 PM
The weird thing is we played amazing JYC ball in stretches of this game.  At times OSU could do nothing offensively. But then the last 10 minutes I have no answer for; giving up 35 points in 10 minutes is ridiculous.

When we go through scoring droughts, our guys get frustrated and eventually give up defensively. It's happened several times this year.

Also, you knew coming in that Asprilla would be completely worthless? Kudos to you for ignoring the mini-hype, I guess.
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« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2011, 02:49:06 PM »
27-8 pts off TOs

JYC got owned
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« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2011, 02:52:53 PM »
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a 49-41 lead with 9:26 left in the game.

That's sh*tty coaching.  Sh*tty leadership.

This is where a senior All-American point guard should win the game.  And once again evident, that Pullen is all lip service and the heart of this team was Clemente.

The reality is we don't have a single reliable player on this team that we can consistently depend on in critical points during the game to make a shot or to play defense.  We don't.  And with Kelly out, we don't have a single post player, not one that we can turn to for any real offensive production or has an ounce defensive ability.  That many fouls from our post players is completely indefensible and completely on Frank for his shitty recruiting and coaching.

Beyond frustrated at how we've pissed this f*cking season away.  #3 in the f*cking country to complete irrelevance.  That's bull sh*t.  And no, we probably will not make the tournament at this rate.  I don't see this team finishing in the top 6.


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« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2011, 02:53:39 PM »
When did cats "fly high early" besides in preseason rankings?
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2011, 02:54:09 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:42:08 PM
I'm just saying there is no way that a Top 3-4 team in this league should lose that game, especially seemingly being in control at the 9 and 1/2 minute mark.

it didn't feel to me like kstate was in control at that point.


they lost due to the turnovers and lack of rebounding.  but the late-game defensive collapse you identified is a concern.  35 pts in 10 minutes is ridic.
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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2011, 02:54:25 PM »
foul trouble or not.... played too much zone in the 2nd half.   They started passing the ball better against and our rebounding in the zone was awful

Asprilla and JO =  both garbage today.   I hate Vic playing the 4 and was begging for him to play at the 4 today because those 2 bigs were an absolute joke
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2011, 02:56:04 PM »
also, lol @ attacking asprilla for this game.  he was the best big (not counting samuels), you dumbasses.  shame he couldn't have stayed on the court a few more minutes.
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Re: Out JYCed in pretty much every phase.
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2011, 02:57:06 PM »
Quote from: sys on January 08, 2011, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:42:08 PM
I'm just saying there is no way that a Top 3-4 team in this league should lose that game, especially seemingly being in control at the 9 and 1/2 minute mark.

it didn't feel to me like kstate was in control at that point.


they lost due to the turnovers and lack of rebounding.  but the late-game defensive collapse you identified is a concern.  35 pts in 10 minutes is ridic.

Did anyone else laugh when Fran said K-State was starting to pull away when up by 8? I scoffed. Scoffed.
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2011, 02:58:15 PM »
Quote from: sys on January 08, 2011, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:42:08 PM
I'm just saying there is no way that a Top 3-4 team in this league should lose that game, especially seemingly being in control at the 9 and 1/2 minute mark.

it didn't feel to me like kstate was in control at that point.


they lost due to the turnovers and lack of rebounding.  but the late-game defensive collapse you identified is a concern.  35 pts in 10 minutes is ridic.

Maybe not in control, but it sure didn't feel like we were going to completely choke the game away and lose by double digits either.
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2011, 02:59:46 PM »
Quote from: sys on January 08, 2011, 02:56:04 PM
also, lol @ attacking asprilla for this game.  he was the best big (not counting samuels), you dumbasses.  shame he couldn't have stayed on the court a few more minutes.

No he wasn't. VO was our second best big today. Ass-prilla and JHR both were a -2 on a scale of 1-10.

And my hate is dedicated to Ass-prilla because I bought his mini-hype coming in, hook line and sinker. :(
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2011, 03:01:25 PM »
Quote from: ksu_FAN on January 08, 2011, 02:58:15 PM
Maybe not in control, but it sure didn't feel like we were going to completely choke the game away and lose by double digits either.

dunno.  i mean, i always feel nervous with a small lead, but so maybe it was just that.  but with kstate shooting really well, osu shooting really poorly, osu scoring whenever they gave it to moses & ksu not rebounding - i wasn't feeling like kstate was playing in a sustainable fashion.

i did think/hope that the turnovers would fix itself with time.  didn't happen.
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2011, 03:02:36 PM »
Quote from: kougar24 on January 08, 2011, 02:59:46 PM
VO was our second best big today.

heh.  maybe so.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2011, 03:04:19 PM »
Quote from: sys on January 08, 2011, 03:01:25 PM
i did think/hope that the turnovers would fix itself with time.  didn't happen.

We seem totally unconcerned with things like passing and ball-handling. :dunno:
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2011, 03:24:34 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2011, 03:31:37 PM »
Even worse, that last 10 minutes brought back a lot of bad memories.  It looked a lot (A LOT) like a Wooly coached team.  Play well in spurts, then in crunch time no one wants to step up and make a play.  Allow teams to absolutely control stretches of games to stay in it, then put it away.   
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