Leach.... (not sure if this is good or bad)

[OK_Cat]

Snyder hasn't won since 2003.

snyder lovers don't like facts.  he's a legend.

[Dr Rick Daris]

Want defense and wins. Not one shared division title since 2000 with a lot of offense.

your right, leach sucks.

Agreed

you are coming dangerously close to becoming the first person to ever get banned from here. if i could reach through the screen and punch you, i would.

[ednksu]

could someone please bold the portion that makes him better then Bill?
10 consecutive winning seasons
8 consecutive seasons with at least 8 wins
4 seasons with at least 9 wins[61]
1 season with 11 wins
9 consecutive bowl appearances[62]
5 bowl wins (most by any individual coach in the history of the program)[62]
4 seasons completed with team ranked in the Top 25[63]
19–11 record against in-state conference rivals Baylor, Texas, and Texas A&M
53–11 record at Jones AT&T Stadium, home of the Texas Tech Red Raider football team
2008 AP Big 12 Coach of the Year[31]
2008 Big 12 Coach of the Year[32]

[Dr Rick Daris]

could someone please bold the portion that makes him better then Bill?
10 consecutive winning seasons
8 consecutive seasons with at least 8 wins
4 seasons with at least 9 wins[61]
1 season with 11 wins
9 consecutive bowl appearances[62]
5 bowl wins (most by any individual coach in the history of the program)[62]
4 seasons completed with team ranked in the Top 25[63]
19–11 record against in-state conference rivals Baylor, Texas, and Texas A&M
53–11 record at Jones AT&T Stadium, home of the Texas Tech Red Raider football team
2008 AP Big 12 Coach of the Year[31]
2008 Big 12 Coach of the Year[32]

gee, i wonder what their head to head record against each other as head coaches (while they were in the same conference) would be. seems like that would be a pretty good way to settle who the better coach is once and for all.

[bakerman]

could someone please bold the portion that makes him better then Bill?
10 consecutive winning seasons
8 consecutive seasons with at least 8 wins
4 seasons with at least 9 wins[61]
1 season with 11 wins
9 consecutive bowl appearances[62]
5 bowl wins (most by any individual coach in the history of the program)[62]
4 seasons completed with team ranked in the Top 25[63]
19–11 record against in-state conference rivals Baylor, Texas, and Texas A&M***
53–11 record at Jones AT&T Stadium, home of the Texas Tech Red Raider football team
2008 AP Big 12 Coach of the Year[31]
2008 Big 12 Coach of the Year[32]

*** that's a 63% winning against what I'm assuming your saying their main rivals.

Snyder vs. KU/MU/NU has a 59%.  Throw in CU and it goes down to 53%

This is pretty freaking impressive too:

Four NCAA, 42 SEC, and 116 school records broken as Kentucky's offensive coordinator

[bakerman]

also Leach came close to a lot of those accomplishments in 9 years that Snyder did in 19 years.

[wetwillie]

love that the tards think 58 year old LHC Bill Snyder is walking through the door or something.  Past accomplishments are ways for those who can't or won't let go to justify their denial.

[Andy]

Leach accomplishes all that and much more if he coaches in the north.

[CNS]

Leach accomplishes all that and much more if he coaches in the north.

This is something that tards can't accept. 

Leach would have won the north several times over that period.

[ednksu]

Leach accomplishes all that and much more if he coaches in the north.

This is something that tards can't accept.  

Leach would have won the north several times over that period.

well by your logic, LHC Bill Snyder would have won at least 5 national titles if he was in the South.  


Keep in mind all of your logic is based on faulty assumptions, poor history and your overreaching desire for something different.

Here is what we know.  Leach has never won anything of value.  LHC Bill Snyder has.  LHC Bill Snyder has also only won the most when he has had better assistants then what he has now.  Even with being hamstrung by Cosh, crap recruits from RP, we are bowling.  I think serious pressure needs to put on Snyder to overhaul his staff, but you guys are lacking all logic when pine after Leach. 

[wetwillie]

Leach accomplishes all that and much more if he coaches in the north.

This is something that tards can't accept. 

Leach would have won the north several times over that period.

well by your logic, LHC Bill Snyder would have won at least 5 national titles if he was in the South. 


Keep in mind all of your logic is based on faulty assumptions, poor history and your overreaching desire for something different.

Here is what we know.  Leach has never won

Just to be clear you are saying that current Mike Leach < Current LHC Bill Snyder? 

[ChiComCat]

Leach accomplishes all that and much more if he coaches in the north.

This is something that tards can't accept. 

Leach would have won the north several times over that period.

well by your logic, LHC Bill Snyder would have won at least 5 national titles if he was in the South. 


Keep in mind all of your logic is based on faulty assumptions, poor history and your overreaching desire for something different.

Here is what we know.  Leach has never won anything of value.  LHC Bill Snyder has.  LHC Bill Snyder has also only won the most when he has had better assistants then what he has now.  Even with being hamstrung by Cosh, crap recruits from RP, we are bowling.  I think serious pressure needs to put on Snyder to overhaul his staff, but you guys are lacking all logic when pine after Leach. 

The first problem with this theory is that Snyder has shown that he will not, under any cirumstances, overhaul his staff. 

[Dr Rick Daris]

gee, i wonder what their head to head record against each other as head coaches (while they were in the same conference) would be. seems like that would be a pretty good way to settle who the better coach is once and for all.

[GetVocalwithCurt]

Leach also has Western TX to recruit from as opposed to western ks

[theymightbegiants]

Snyder hasn't won since 2003.

snyder lovers don't like facts.  he's a legend.

tell me the fact that leech hasn't won cac. Snyder has had us on the brink of a national championship. Won an unbelievable amount of games especially for the worst school in history when he took it over. Snyder is a winner and has given us the opportunity to bring in a winner as the next head coach after him. This is something we can't afford to screw up again (prince) and Snyder will stay and then leave as soon as we find an acceptable replacement. He is not our future*. He is our past and present and wants to leave his legacy in tack so lets enjoy the cats bowl game when our teams talent sucks balls and hope that we can get a coach who doesn't screw over alumni and athletic directors while also treating players badly. OB has coached some pretty bad teams (this one) but he has also coached the best teams in k-state history.

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Snyder hasn't won since 2003.

snyder lovers don't like facts.  he's a legend.

tell me the fact that leech hasn't won cac. Snyder has had us on the brink of a national championship. Won an unbelievable amount of games especially for the worst school in history when he took it over. Snyder is a winner and has given us the opportunity to bring in a winner as the next head coach after him. This is something we can't afford to screw up again (prince) and Snyder will stay and then leave as soon as we find an acceptable replacement. He is not our future*. He is our past and present and wants to leave his legacy in tack so lets enjoy the cats bowl game when our teams talent sucks balls and hope that we can get a coach who doesn't screw over alumni and athletic directors while also treating players badly. OB has coached some pretty bad teams (this one) but he has also coached the best teams in k-state history.

IN TACK!

[ednksu]

as far as Snyder now >/< Leach I don't know.  I would like to know what the Leach coaching staff was like at Tech.  Was he involved at all levels or did he give his assistants responsibility for their side of the ball?  If those assistants failed what happened to them? 

We can all agree that massive changes need to be made on the defensive side of the ball and massive changes in recruiting.  We know that Bill isn't happy with the D but has the tradition of not firing assistants.  He has made changes in his recruiting method. 


I would like to know from you anti bill guys why you are so fervently against him.  Here is what we know about bill 2.0:
1) The cupboard was bare.  Same excuse many of you were using against Bill 1.0 and for RP which turned out to be dead wrong.
2) Recruiting relationships were left in shambles.  those relationships took years to develop only took months to destroy.
3) we were on the brink of a bowl last year and is position to win the north, this year we are bowling

So from you anti-Bill people, what do you want from this program, AD, coaching staff right now 2 years out of Prince?

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So from you anti-Bill people, what do you want from this program, AD, coaching staff right now 2 years out of Prince?

Mike Leach.  Or any other reason to believe there's a purpose.

[OK_Cat]

Snyder hasn't won since 2003.

snyder lovers don't like facts.  he's a legend.

tell me the fact that leech hasn't won cac. Snyder has had us on the brink of a national championship. Won an unbelievable amount of games especially for the worst school in history when he took it over. Snyder is a winner and has given us the opportunity to bring in a winner as the next head coach after him. This is something we can't afford to screw up again (prince) and Snyder will stay and then leave as soon as we find an acceptable replacement. He is not our future*. He is our past and present and wants to leave his legacy in tack so lets enjoy the cats bowl game when our teams talent sucks balls and hope that we can get a coach who doesn't screw over alumni and athletic directors while also treating players badly. OB has coached some pretty bad teams (this one) but he has also coached the best teams in k-state history.

You know what coaches don't treat their players badly?  The horrible, shitty ones.

Old Ballz won 1 conference championship.  1.  Let's not get carried away with how much he won. 

Current Old Ballz is far inferior to Current Mike Leach.

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Maryland.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5931102

[WildCatzPhreak]

Maryland.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5931102

This deserves it's own thread so goEMAW can melt down appropriately.

[Andy]

Maryland.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5931102

This deserves it's own thread so goEMAW can melt down appropriately.

we all knew it wasn't going to happen

[KSUTOMMY]

Maryland.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5931102

This deserves it's own thread so goEMAW can melt down appropriately.

we all knew it wasn't going to happen

This is how it always turns out... we will be left with jackshit. Water's calm OBz, the waters are rough ridin' calm, get out!!!

[Havs]

Maryland wants to be in the Big Ten though... idk how that system works in the Big Ten.

[KSUTOMMY]

Maryland wants to be in the Big Ten though... idk how that system works in the Big Ten.

I'd like to see how it works in Manhattan, KS... It'l never happen now.