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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #151 on: December 14, 2010, 10:28:48 AM »
hi Jake!  How you doin' bro? :adios:

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #152 on: December 14, 2010, 11:12:22 AM »
This team has to find or figure out a way to get the ball from the outside to the rim without throwing the ball up. Our problem comes from the fact there isn't a sole player on this team capable of taking a guy of the dribble. Motivation is fine, and is lacking to be sure. But when you have no one to take the ball to the rim, you are going to find it rather difficult to be succesful. We are easy to defend. Get in Pullen's face, and we will have problems scoring points.

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #153 on: December 14, 2010, 11:13:11 AM »
This team is awful, jay kay.
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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #154 on: December 14, 2010, 12:27:28 PM »
This entire thread

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #155 on: December 14, 2010, 03:24:22 PM »
I'm not talking about who he plays, but when he plays them and for how long.  He will tighten up the rotation and get a better sense of player roles, it is a gradual process though its not like we are going to see February's rotation on Saturday.  The Colon example is poor, throughout the season WHEN Luis got his minutes significantly changed.  It wasn't uncommon for him to get no more than 5 second half minutes.  Energy also lost a lot of minutes after the game at Missouri.  There were games when he didn't see the floor at all when he started some games in the non-con.

i don't see how to link the graph itself.  have to go to the page.  uncheck the other stats to clarify the graph.


http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/chris-merriewether/game_stats
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/luis-colon/game_stats


for colon, i don't see any pattern of changing use.  with merriewether, it looks like less variance in mpg later in the season, and fewer games with very high (for him) mpg.

there's no data for game situations when players played, just off memory, i recall colon's role as unchanged, start games, start 2nd half.  play 3-5 minutes then come out.  come back in, for another 3-5 minute bout later in each half.

merriewether, i don't recall as well, if he has such a defined role, i don't think i noticed it.  i do, of course, recall him figuring prominently in end of game situs late in the season.



i guess i do agree that martin will begin to establish more defined roles for some players, and mpgs of a few players may become slightly more consistent.  i strongly disagree however, with the idea that there will be a dramatic change in player minutes, variance in player seeing the court, that early season rotations are wildly different than later season rotations, and that rotations to date have had much of an impact on performance to date.

basically the idea that kstate has played less well than they could have because martin assigns player minutes differently early in the season vs later in the season.
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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #156 on: December 14, 2010, 03:35:30 PM »
come back in, for another 3-5 minute bout later in each half.

great colon description

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #157 on: December 14, 2010, 05:06:28 PM »
save any and all in-season meltdowns for actual losses to certain teams--like any of those horrible christmas break games, any losses to nor-tards, tech, ou.  thats it.  beyond that its Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to meltdown until we lose in the tourney.

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #158 on: December 18, 2010, 04:35:53 PM »
AWFUL.

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #159 on: December 18, 2010, 04:54:27 PM »
F*CKING AWFUL.  You reading this Jake?  F*CKING AWFUL.

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #160 on: December 18, 2010, 04:57:32 PM »
Somebody tell me why we are ranked in the top 10???

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #161 on: December 18, 2010, 04:58:56 PM »
OUR BIGS SUCK ASS!!!!

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #162 on: December 18, 2010, 05:03:22 PM »
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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #163 on: December 18, 2010, 05:06:02 PM »
Somebody tell me why we are ranked in the top 10???

We'll be lucky to win 9 games in conference.

Lucky.

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #164 on: December 18, 2010, 05:06:23 PM »
How awful are we?  ALL AMERICAN AWFUL.

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #165 on: December 18, 2010, 05:10:09 PM »
Lots of growing up to do... This Is terrible.

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #166 on: December 18, 2010, 05:11:17 PM »
We rough ridin' suck.

20-8 lead and lose by 20.  The epitome of pathetic.
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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #167 on: December 18, 2010, 05:12:04 PM »
we'll be lucky to finish 4th in the Big12

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #168 on: December 18, 2010, 05:13:00 PM »
Keep shooting those threes, Jake.

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #169 on: December 18, 2010, 05:16:23 PM »
we'll be lucky to finish 4th in the Big12

We won't finish ahead of A&M so yeah.

And lol at Boyton clownsuiting Jake. 

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #170 on: December 18, 2010, 05:18:10 PM »
Yep, this thread is pretty much dead on.  How about some rough ridin' offense?

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #171 on: December 18, 2010, 05:22:16 PM »
The recruiting does not reduce the anxiety that last year was the peak.  It is probably not justified and I should be gratefull we are out of wooly's 6-10 vortex of mediocrity.

recruiting is going fine.



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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #172 on: December 18, 2010, 05:23:00 PM »
I hope this team makes the NCAA tournament.

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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #173 on: December 18, 2010, 05:29:54 PM »
We love you Jake!!
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Re: this team is awful
« Reply #174 on: December 18, 2010, 05:32:53 PM »
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