Author Topic: 2012 Recruiting Thread (Read 623398 times)

wabash909 · « **Reply #3500 on:** April 18, 2012, 04:11:57 PM »

Gip will get a little better, but he'll always be limited in Conference play. Not tall enough, not quick enough to be an impact post player in a BCS league like the Big XII.

steve dave · « **Reply #3501 on:** April 18, 2012, 04:30:34 PM »

NBA hands though. Like, as good as Frank claimed asprilla's were.

Jackie Moon · « **Reply #3502 on:** April 18, 2012, 04:36:38 PM »

Also don't think the pinch post offense was good for gip.

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #3503 on:** April 18, 2012, 04:39:58 PM »

Quote from: wabash909 on April 18, 2012, 04:11:57 PM

Gip will get a little better, but he'll always be limited in Conference play. Not tall enough, not quick enough to be an impact post player in a BCS league like the Big XII.

6'7 with a 7'2 wingspan is plenty big enough for Conference play and Gip has great feet, It is shocking how people link Thomas declining to his size and not the fact he was a freshmen post on a team with a declining offensive efficiency.

steve dave · « **Reply #3504 on:** April 18, 2012, 04:44:18 PM »

Gip is limited physically for his game. He's a plodder. I love him, but he won't make huge strides like a lengthy jumper could. He's not athletically Thomas Robinson and doesn't have the potential to be.

michigancat · « **Reply #3505 on:** April 18, 2012, 04:44:22 PM »

once oscar gets Gip's face up jumper going he'll be rough ridin' unstoppable

steve dave · « **Reply #3506 on:** April 18, 2012, 04:45:00 PM »

wabash909 · « **Reply #3507 on:** April 18, 2012, 05:55:36 PM »

Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 18, 2012, 04:39:58 PM

Quote from: wabash909 on April 18, 2012, 04:11:57 PM
Gip will get a little better, but he'll always be limited in Conference play. Not tall enough, not quick enough to be an impact post player in a BCS league like the Big XII.

6'7 with a 7'2 wingspan is plenty big enough for Conference play and Gip has great feet, It is shocking how people link Thomas declining to his size and not the fact he was a freshmen post on a team with a declining offensive efficiency.

His top end potential is a little more polished Louis Colon.

And that's ok. There just shouldn't be expectations that he's going to be All-Conference or anything.

CNS · « **Reply #3508 on:** April 18, 2012, 06:08:06 PM »

Will be a better scorer than Lu.

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Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #3509 on:** April 18, 2012, 06:12:47 PM »

Quote from: wabash909 on April 18, 2012, 05:55:36 PM

Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 18, 2012, 04:39:58 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 18, 2012, 04:11:57 PM
Gip will get a little better, but he'll always be limited in Conference play. Not tall enough, not quick enough to be an impact post player in a BCS league like the Big XII.

6'7 with a 7'2 wingspan is plenty big enough for Conference play and Gip has great feet, It is shocking how people link Thomas declining to his size and not the fact he was a freshmen post on a team with a declining offensive efficiency.

His top end potential is a little more polished Louis Colon.

And that's ok. There just shouldn't be expectations that he's going to be All-Conference or anything.

15 and 8 is not out of the reach for him, Colon and Gip are nothing like. He could end up being a 2X 2nd/3rd team performer, He has a really good understanding of the game and really understands positioning. Colon didn't understand the game at a high level just knew how to be physical. Gips numbers per 40 are pretty solid.

Jackie Moon · « **Reply #3510 on:** April 18, 2012, 07:28:00 PM »

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/788597/darrell-johnson

Bunch of videos of Johnson's games. Can even watch him play football is your feel like it.

steve dave · « **Reply #3511 on:** April 18, 2012, 07:49:14 PM »

Quote from: wabash909 on April 18, 2012, 05:55:36 PM

Quote from: Mixed-Nutz on April 18, 2012, 04:39:58 PM
Quote from: wabash909 on April 18, 2012, 04:11:57 PM
Gip will get a little better, but he'll always be limited in Conference play. Not tall enough, not quick enough to be an impact post player in a BCS league like the Big XII.

6'7 with a 7'2 wingspan is plenty big enough for Conference play and Gip has great feet, It is shocking how people link Thomas declining to his size and not the fact he was a freshmen post on a team with a declining offensive efficiency.

His top end potential is a little more polished Louis Colon.

And that's ok. There just shouldn't be expectations that he's going to be All-Conference or anything.

wtf are you talking about? he is a much better scorer and offensive player than Lu ever was.

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #3512 on:** April 18, 2012, 08:25:55 PM »

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420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #3513 on:** April 18, 2012, 08:48:32 PM »

JFC. We're doing oscar's recruiting for him on twitter. You're welcome butter scotches.

KSUBrian · « **Reply #3514 on:** April 18, 2012, 09:07:36 PM »

Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2012, 04:44:18 PM

Gip is limited physically for his game. He's a plodder. I love him, but he won't make huge strides like a lengthy jumper could. He's not athletically Thomas Robinson and doesn't have the potential to be.

Definitely not as athletic as T-Rob. However, while it may be purple glasses, I thought Gip was better offensively as a Fr than what T-Rob was. As a Fr, it looked like the only shots T-Rob could make consistently were a lay-up or slam dunk.

SuperG · « **Reply #3515 on:** April 18, 2012, 09:19:14 PM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on April 18, 2012, 03:59:20 PM

Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2012, 01:21:59 PM
gipson had a pretty polished offensive game for a freshman big.

In the non-con, he was superb. And then Conference season happened.

And at what point in the season did you forget that he was a true freshman?

Gip had an amazing season for a freshman in the Big XII and contributed a lot more than anybody could have reasonably expected.

Belvis Noland · « **Reply #3516 on:** April 18, 2012, 09:48:02 PM »

Quote from: SuperG on April 18, 2012, 09:19:14 PM

Quote from: Belvis Noland on April 18, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2012, 01:21:59 PM
gipson had a pretty polished offensive game for a freshman big.

In the non-con, he was superb. And then Conference season happened.

And at what point in the season did you forget that he was a true freshman?

Gip had an amazing season for a freshman in the Big XII and contributed a lot more than anybody could have reasonably expected.

Uh no. Beasley, Griffin, Durant were "amazing" freshmen. Guys like Pullen, Pressey, Elijah Johnson were "good" as freshmen. Gip was pretty average, at best.

Do you watch much KState basketball? Serious question.

Underdog Wildcat · « **Reply #3517 on:** April 18, 2012, 09:53:11 PM »

I'll just say that Gip came in as a FR with a lot more skill and touch on the low block than I was expecting, his hook is pretty reliable and he even showed the ability to knock it down with his right hand at times

As many others have pointed out, he is somewhat limited due to lacking explosive athleticism but he's already fairly crafty in the paint and if he can continue to develop that craftiness, I could definitely see him being a 12-13 and 8 guy by the time he's done at KSU.

As for Johnson, well when you've got even his HS coach who's pumping up as some sort of Kenneth Faried clone saying he has some offensive limitations, then well, I'm not going to expect much pt production from him early. Does look like he already has decent physical build and moves pretty well for his size, so he has a good base of physical tools to build from.

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #3518 on:** April 18, 2012, 09:56:40 PM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on April 18, 2012, 09:48:02 PM

Quote from: SuperG on April 18, 2012, 09:19:14 PM
Quote from: Belvis Noland on April 18, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2012, 01:21:59 PM
gipson had a pretty polished offensive game for a freshman big.

In the non-con, he was superb. And then Conference season happened.

And at what point in the season did you forget that he was a true freshman?

Gip had an amazing season for a freshman in the Big XII and contributed a lot more than anybody could have reasonably expected.

Uh no. Beasley, Griffin, Durant were "amazing" freshmen. Guys like Pullen, Pressey, Elijah Johnson were "good" as freshmen. Gip was pretty average, at best.

Do you watch much KState basketball? Serious question.

Ummm, post players are less developed coming into college basketball than gaurds are in general, Bad comparison

hatingfrancisco · « **Reply #3519 on:** April 18, 2012, 11:18:11 PM »

Gip was an above average frosh IMO. Dude had amazing hands and rarely played out of control. He's only going to get better.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #3520 on:** April 19, 2012, 12:06:28 AM »

Stop talking about gip, dumbasses. Make a thread about him. This thread is only left for Gray, and only Gray.

FranklyFrankYou · « **Reply #3521 on:** April 19, 2012, 12:21:06 AM »

Quote from: fanningksu on April 19, 2012, 12:06:28 AM

Stop talking about gip, dumbasses. Make a thread about him. This thread is only left for Gray, and only Gray.

O trust me fanning we are all fans of shades of gray....but you can't get called out by some high-holy dumbass like "Belvis Noland" and not trespond...especially when he equates elijah johnson as a peer of Jacob Pullen who is not only a superior basketbal player, but also person, public speaker, and role model. I mean elijah johnson hardly played at ku his freshman year and now as,what, a junior? Is still half the player Jake was/is...so I guess I turn the question to you Belvis, do you watch much Big XII basketball? Because if you do I would recommend you get a cat scan because it appears you might have had some sort of stroke or something

wabash909 · « **Reply #3522 on:** April 19, 2012, 12:22:34 AM »

Quote from: fanningksu on April 19, 2012, 12:06:28 AM

Stop talking about gip, dumbasses. Make a thread about him. This thread is only left for Gray, and only Gray.

You tell em', Fanning!

SuperG · « **Reply #3523 on:** April 19, 2012, 01:50:23 AM »

Quote from: Belvis Noland on April 18, 2012, 09:48:02 PM

Quote from: SuperG on April 18, 2012, 09:19:14 PM
Quote from: Belvis Noland on April 18, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
Quote from: steve dave on April 18, 2012, 01:21:59 PM
gipson had a pretty polished offensive game for a freshman big.

In the non-con, he was superb. And then Conference season happened.

And at what point in the season did you forget that he was a true freshman?

Gip had an amazing season for a freshman in the Big XII and contributed a lot more than anybody could have reasonably expected.

Uh no. Beasley, Griffin, Durant were "amazing" freshmen. Guys like Pullen, Pressey, Elijah Johnson were "good" as freshmen. Gip was pretty average, at best.

Do you watch much KState basketball? Serious question.

Now you're just being a douchebag... didn't know that was your thing.

I didn't say he was "really, really, amazing". Beaz & Durant were well beyond any adjective yet uttered in this thread.

beefpac · « **Reply #3524 on:** April 19, 2012, 08:50:51 AM »

Lets get back on track. Josh Gray!

Whats the word on scholarships? How are we going to make room for him? I know there is a Frank Omari camp, but is there anything more behind this other than he appears to be our worst player? I know there are other rumblings of Watson graduating, is that really an option?