Any Structural Engineers in here

[KITNfury]

??

Need a little help if there are.

[Mikeyis4dcats]

what do you need?

[Tobias]

This oughta get good... 

[KITNfury]

what do you need?

Pic below. Long story short, I plan to take out a post beneath my center beam in my basement. I've already put another identical beam next to the old one. I've done the calculations to show that it's more than strong enough, so I feel pretty good that the city will accept that. There's a 3 foot gap between the new wood post/column and the nearest existing column. The inspector said that I need to provide plans for this and hope it passes or provide a stamped letter from a Kansas licensed PE structural engg. Since I'm confident that the I can get the beam to pass, I'm hoping that a Structural Engg will say that I don't have to put a footing under the wood post.



Wood Column

[jtksu]

I would say there is a 50% chance that passes inspection and a 50% chance that your house collapses within a few months.

[Cire]

yeah, I'd get an inspector out there.

[Trim]

Probably best to sell that house and buy one with the beams and posts in the places you want.  Maybe get non-pink posts and beams in the new place too? 

[KITNfury]

I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.



EDIT: Added Trim.

[06wildcat]

Wouldn't worry about it. That beam looks totally decorative. Yank the rough rider out entirely.

[Cire]

I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.



EDIT: Added Trim.

so what's the problem?  didn't he tell you what to do?

[Trim]

I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.



EDIT: Added Trim.

Your answer can probably be found somewhere in here: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=627.0

I can only surmise that the insight displayed in that thread is what led you to ask your question to the goEMAW constituency.

[jtksu]

Timelife has a neat series of DIY books.  Maybe you could check some out at your local library?  They have pictures and everything.

[KITNfury]

I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.



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so what's the problem?  didn't he tell you what to do?

You're overestimating what city inspectors do. They make sure that the basics are right. They aren't engineers.

[KITNfury]

I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.



EDIT: Added Trim.

Your answer can probably be found somewhere in here: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=627.0

I can only surmise that the insight displayed in that thread is what led you to ask your question to the goEMAW constituency.

Didn't read. Not going to.

[CNS]

why are you adding a second beam?  one not enough?

[Trim]

I've had an inspector out here. LHomeImprovementIQ people please stay out. I'm looking at you cire, jt, and Trim.



EDIT: Added Trim.

Your answer can probably be found somewhere in here: http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=627.0

I can only surmise that the insight displayed in that thread is what led you to ask your question to the goEMAW constituency.

Didn't read. Not going to.

Then you deserve for your project to fail, squawk.

[ChiComCat]

More info on the joists will be required to solve this doozy...

[KITNfury]

why are you adding a second beam?  one not enough?

I actually didn't have to. I initially did the calculations as if it were a simply supported beam on two ends. In that scenario, it would need 2. In actuality, it's a beam that is essentially cantilevered on both ends. When calculating it that way, one beam would be enough. I figured for $150, it's good to be on the safe side and add the other beam. So the beam shouldn't be an issue. The city, if you're not going to have it ok'd by a PE, says you need a 12" footing beneath new posts. That would mean I'd need to  pull the post out and put the footing in. Not impossible by any means, but if I can get a PE (KSU grad doing another KSU grad a favor) to write a letter saying it's ok, then I wouldn't have to cut concrete out and put the footing in.

If all this was covered in SDs thread let me know and I'll check it out.

[KITNfury]

More info on the joists will be required to solve this doozy...

Not if I already know how much force the beam(s) carry.

94.2 lbs/L-in

[KSUBrian]

why are you adding a second beam?  one not enough?

I actually didn't have to. I initially did the calculations as if it were a simply supported beam on two ends. In that scenario, it would need 2. In actuality, it's a beam that is essentially cantilevered on both ends. When calculating it that way, one beam would be enough. I figured for $150, it's good to be on the safe side and add the other beam. So the beam shouldn't be an issue. The city, if you're not going to have it ok'd by a PE, says you need a 12" footing beneath new posts. That would mean I'd need to  pull the post out and put the footing in. Not impossible by any means, but if I can get a PE (KSU grad doing another KSU grad a favor) to write a letter saying it's ok, then I wouldn't have to cut concrete out and put the footing in.

If all this was covered in SDs thread let me know and I'll check it out.

I once built a tower with an Erector set and have had a few beers.  Do I qualify for writing a letter to the city?

[ChiComCat]

Next question, what are you planning on storing in your columns?

[KITNfury]

why are you adding a second beam?  one not enough?

I actually didn't have to. I initially did the calculations as if it were a simply supported beam on two ends. In that scenario, it would need 2. In actuality, it's a beam that is essentially cantilevered on both ends. When calculating it that way, one beam would be enough. I figured for $150, it's good to be on the safe side and add the other beam. So the beam shouldn't be an issue. The city, if you're not going to have it ok'd by a PE, says you need a 12" footing beneath new posts. That would mean I'd need to  pull the post out and put the footing in. Not impossible by any means, but if I can get a PE (KSU grad doing another KSU grad a favor) to write a letter saying it's ok, then I wouldn't have to cut concrete out and put the footing in.

If all this was covered in SDs thread let me know and I'll check it out.

I once built a tower with an Erector set and have had a few beers.  Do I qualify for writing a letter to the city?

Prolly

[KITNfury]

Next question, what are you planning on storing in your columns?

What do you mean, like cocaine?

[ChiComCat]

Next question, what are you planning on storing in your columns?

What do you mean, like cocaine?

Potentially, though if you have that amount of cocaine, I'd hire some people to do it for you.  Probably Mennonites if they're available.  I would store Legos in mine. 

On a seperate note, I could build the whole support for you out of Legos.  I am not a practicing Mennonite but I come from Mennonite roots.  Also provided in my bid, a letter from someone with "qualifications" saying this type of thing is safe.  And Legos would be a pretty solid cover for hiding cocaine.  When people come to murder you and your family, they would assume the Legos are kids toys and not the best hiding place ever.

[chunkles]

you're going to need to submit your calcs here for full approval. 
surprised the AHJ was willing to see them without a PE seal.  Where you from?  SEK?  lol.