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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2010, 11:52:06 PM »
That whole effing rat trap is coming down. 

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2010, 11:02:48 AM »
I'm not a PE, but ended up with a CNSM degree after 2 years in ARE.    Without doing the calcs, I'm trusting that you did them properly.

The downfall of your predicament is that no PE is going to assume liability without compensation.   Even amongst friends, the liability is too high, and if their O&E insurer ever found out, it'd be akin to medical malpractice.

Your best bet is to find a local independent engineer, someone not working for a large firm, and get them to write the letter to the LAHJ for a couple hundred bucks at most.    Consider it insurance just like your extra beam.

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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2010, 01:18:40 PM »
I'm not a PE, but ended up with a CNSM degree after 2 years in ARE.    Without doing the calcs, I'm trusting that you did them properly.

The downfall of your predicament is that no PE is going to assume liability without compensation.   Even amongst friends, the liability is too high, and if their O&E insurer ever found out, it'd be akin to medical malpractice.

Your best bet is to find a local independent engineer, someone not working for a large firm, and get them to write the letter to the LAHJ for a couple hundred bucks at most.    Consider it insurance just like your extra beam.

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2010, 01:43:23 PM »
Question, is this where you're going to live when your wife finds out what a dumbass do-it-yourselfer you are?
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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2010, 01:48:08 PM »
Question, is this where you're going to live when your wife finds out what a dumbass do-it-yourselfer you are?
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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2010, 03:19:35 PM »
I would suggest just hiring someone to build a whole new house just how you like it. That was ultimately the solution to the 6 page finish a basement thread.

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2010, 03:21:54 PM »
My next house(the perfect one) will not have a basement.

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2010, 03:23:00 PM »
My next house(the perfect one) will not have a basement.

sounds like a shitty house

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2010, 03:26:49 PM »
My next house(the perfect one) will not have a basement.

sounds like a cacty house

Out door living.  Gonna do an outdoor living room and cooking area.  The kind with a roof, but at least one open wall(maybe operable).

Basements suck. 

Master bed walls will be concrete so that it will be the tornado room. 


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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2010, 03:28:31 PM »
My next house(the perfect one) will not have a basement.

sounds like a cacty house

Out door living.  Gonna do an outdoor living room and cooking area.  The kind with a roof, but at least one open wall(maybe operable).

Basements suck. 

Master bed walls will be concrete so that it will be the tornado room. 



wow, it gets worse everytime you talk about it.  why don't you just live in a igloo if you love shitty houses so much?

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2010, 03:30:16 PM »
The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.

The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.

Just no basement. 

Gonna be great.

Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2010, 03:34:36 PM »
The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.

The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.

Just no basement. 

Gonna be great.

Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.

your penguin girlfriend will love your igloo

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2010, 03:49:54 PM »
Sounds like you want to live in a condemned warehouse.  "That 3rd wall didn't fall down, we opened up the floorplan because we don't have a basement and I am Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2010, 03:50:48 PM »
Sounds like you want to live in a condemned warehouse.  "That 3rd wall didn't fall down, we opened up the floorplan because we don't have a basement and I am Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)."

Your log cabin must be nice.

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2010, 03:55:46 PM »
The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.

The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.

Just no basement.  

Gonna be great.

Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.

I was planning on crashing in sd's basement for CWS/NCAA Omaha trips.  Would I have to sleep outside if I ever stayed at your house?

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2010, 04:06:00 PM »
The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.

The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.

Just no basement.  

Gonna be great.

Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.

I was planning on crashing in sd's basement for CWS/NCAA Omaha trips.  Would I have to sleep outside if I ever stayed at your house?


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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2010, 04:08:36 PM »
The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.

The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.

Just no basement. 

Gonna be great.

Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.

I was planning on crashing in sd's basement for CWS/NCAA Omaha trips.  Would I have to sleep outside if I ever stayed at your house?



Your whole setup seems pretty damn cheap for a brain surgeon.

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2010, 04:11:11 PM »
The concrete walls will have drywall finishes and look just like a normal wall.

The out door stuff will be in addition to the normal in door stuff.

Just no basement. 

Gonna be great.

Basements are for losers who like smelling musty.

I was planning on crashing in sd's basement for CWS/NCAA Omaha trips.  Would I have to sleep outside if I ever stayed at your house?



Your whole setup seems pretty damn cheap for a brain surgeon.

That is just the guest room.

wife and I are thinking more like the below for our outdoor areas:


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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2010, 04:12:23 PM »
Needs a center pillar.

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2010, 04:23:10 PM »
cns, you seem to be missing at least 3 of your walls

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #45 on: November 28, 2010, 04:23:28 PM »
Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?

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« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2010, 04:25:17 PM »
Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?

That looks like the Ft. Riley hill.  It's gonna be loud as eff in the outdoor room when they start shooting off tanks.

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2010, 04:27:47 PM »
Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?

Unfortunately Google Image doesn't contain a fully similar example of what I want.

I live in N.E. KS.

Note: I am thinking about an operable wall so that the room can be sealed during the shitty months.  Also, we will have the normal indoor rooms, just no basement.  

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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2010, 04:29:25 PM »
Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?

Unfortunately Google Image doesn't contain a fully similar example of what I want.

I live in N.E. KS.

Note: I am thinking about an operable wall so that the room can be sealed during the shitty months.  Also, we will have the normal indoor rooms, just no basement.  

why not do this but also have a basement?  :dunno:
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Re: Any Structural Engineers in here
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2010, 04:30:49 PM »
Where can you build this house that is nice enough most the year for an outdoor room, yet you fear tornadoes?

Unfortunately Google Image doesn't contain a fully similar example of what I want.

I live in N.E. KS.

Note: I am thinking about an operable wall so that the room can be sealed during the cacty months.  Also, we will have the normal indoor rooms, just no basement.  

why not do this but also have a basement?  :dunno:

1. as noted above, basements are for losers who like to smell musty
2. cost of outdoor room offset by not building basement