The Royals

[kso_FAN]

Fair enough. Herrera and Davis's fastballs are down this year

There will be a game this month where we lose because of Herrera or Davis, and everyone will go bananas

To be fair, we are one the most spoiled fan bases in baseball history with our bullpen. We won 111 straight games until last August when leading after 7 innings. That's a ridiculous number. We lost like 2 more after that, but won a lot more. Then you go to leading after 8, and I think we have 1 loss in the last 2+ seasons or whatever. Its really a staggering stat of bullpen greatness.

[Cartierfor3]

Fair enough. Herrera and Davis's fastballs are down this year

There will be a game this month where we lose because of Herrera or Davis, and everyone will go bananas

To be fair, we are one the most spoiled fan bases in baseball history with our bullpen. We won 111 straight games until last August when leading after 7 innings. That's a ridiculous number. We lost like 2 more after that, but won a lot more. Then you go to leading after 8, and I think we have 1 loss in the last 2+ seasons or whatever. Its really a staggering stat of bullpen greatness.

its bananas

https://twitter.com/theaceofspaeder/status/720091331557728257

[pissclams]

wade davis has absolutely decimated anything that mariano rivera ever attempted to do

[star seed 7]

WackyCat08 hoping and praying for royals failure is pretty weird and random

[Cartierfor3]

I added this up myself, but I think I'm right. On 9/11 and 9/14 of last season, Kelvin Herrera gave up 3 ER in back to back appearances. I like to think he was still recovering from chicken pox.

Since 9/14, including postseason:

23 appearances
24 2/3 innings
2 Earned Runs
34 strikeouts
ERA of 0.72

[scottwildcat]

WackyCat08 hoping and praying for royals failure is pretty weird and random

WC08 in general is weird and random imo

[kso_FAN]

wade davis has absolutely decimated anything that mariano rivera ever attempted to do

The last 2 years + so far this season.

15 earned runs in 143 innings.

[star seed 7]

WackyCat08 hoping and praying for royals failure is pretty weird and random

WC08 in general is weird and random imo

Well I don't think so

[420seriouscat69]

WackyCat08 hoping and praying for royals failure is pretty weird and random

I would never due such a thing. This blog and K-State have turned me into one of those fans that's waiting for the bottom to drop out. Even tho we're champs. 

[star seed 7]

WackyCat08 hoping and praying for royals failure is pretty weird and random

I would never due such a thing. This blog and K-State have turned me into one of those fans that's waiting for the bottom to drop out. Even tho we're champs. 

Think positive!

[kso_FAN]

WackyCat08 hoping and praying for royals failure is pretty weird and random

This blog and K-State have turned me into one of those fans that's waiting for the bottom to drop out. Even tho we're champs. 

No, that's your choice. I have never made that choice.

[Cartierfor3]

Mariano Rivera was great, but his greatness was in his consistency over 17 years. Clams is right though, he never had a stretch of complete dominance like Wade is in right now. I'm not sure anyone has.

[Cartierfor3]

WackyCat08 hoping and praying for royals failure is pretty weird and random

I would never due such a thing. This blog and K-State have turned me into one of those fans that's waiting for the bottom to drop out. Even tho we're champs. 

I was this way until the 2014 playoffs. Now I just assume we'll comeback and win. Sunday's 2 run 9th and extra inning win felt inevitable.

[Cartierfor3]

I will admit that I didn't believe in the 8th inning in GM4 ALDS though. I mean, it was an absolute miracle.

[star seed 7]

I will admit that I didn't believe in the 8th inning in GM4 ALDS though. I mean, it was an absolute miracle.

Meh, wasn't even sweating

[420seriouscat69]

WackyCat08 hoping and praying for royals failure is pretty weird and random

This blog and K-State have turned me into one of those fans that's waiting for the bottom to drop out. Even tho we're champs. 

No, that's your choice. I have never made that choice.

Fair enough! 

[8manpick]

I would never due such a thing

[Cartierfor3]

Rivera has 9 seasons with a higher WAR than 2015 Wade Davis.  Wade had a lower ERA than all 9 of those seasons, a lower WHIP than all but 1. Rivera did have a lower FIP in 5 of those seasons though. I guess Rivera gets the better WAR for playing in a much more hitter friendly era. Bullpens are so much better now.

[wetwillie]

I imagine if bullpens had to face roided out Barry bonds, mark McGuire, sammy Sosa, etc they might perform worse than they have.

[mocat]

Rivera has 9 seasons with a higher WAR than 2015 Wade Davis.  Wade had a lower ERA than all 9 of those seasons, a lower WHIP than all but 1. Rivera did have a lower FIP in 5 of those seasons though. I guess Rivera gets the better WAR for playing in a much more hitter friendly era. Bullpens are so much better now.

wade davis only had 17 saves in 2015

[420seriouscat69]

Rivera has 9 seasons with a higher WAR than 2015 Wade Davis.  Wade had a lower ERA than all 9 of those seasons, a lower WHIP than all but 1. Rivera did have a lower FIP in 5 of those seasons though. I guess Rivera gets the better WAR for playing in a much more hitter friendly era. Bullpens are so much better now.

wade davis only had 17 saves in 2015

Holland!

 

[Cartierfor3]

Saves are kind of a fake stat though. Like Wins. Does WAR take saves into account?

[pissclams]

who knew mariano and goose had such a beef?
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2013/3/12/4088360/mariano-rivera-is-not-the-greatest-closer-of-all-time

he's using some obscure stats in the yellow table towards the bottom that i don't understand

[Cartierfor3]

He's basically just pointing out that a lot of what Rivera did was in a clean 9th inning, and past closers entered the game often in higher leverage moments and pitched more innings. I don't put much stock into a Clutch Rating stat though.

[mocat]

stupid soren had an ill-advised rant on david ortiz this morning