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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31875 on: February 20, 2015, 10:24:29 PM »
also, everything that has survived in the history of everything has pissed of its "purists". I'm not commenting on any of these specific things but just about the sport in general.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31876 on: February 20, 2015, 10:25:32 PM »
I'm glad cartier brought up soccer stuff because the first thing i thought of was "they're gonna act just like soccer fans"

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31877 on: February 20, 2015, 10:27:11 PM »
We would still have to watch pitchers hit in the AL if dumbass baseball purists got their way.
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31878 on: February 21, 2015, 10:29:04 AM »
People complaining about David Glass.  MLB.Tv renewal email received.  Salvy's back harassing Cain on Instagram.  It's baseball season!   :royals:

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31879 on: February 21, 2015, 11:59:43 AM »
Well said SD. I'm glad they added replay reviews, more playoff teams, improved revenue sharing etc. But JMHO, a clock of any kind fundamentally changes the fabric of the game. We're not talking "hey let's kick off from the 35 instead of the 30" here. I hate it.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31880 on: February 21, 2015, 12:12:09 PM »
My idea is that instead of a big play clock or something the MLB should adopt a kind of "pace of play" rule like golf.  So have a set length of time in mind that a game should last and then adopt a reasonable length between pitches.  (however many seconds)  Then during the game an umpire (behind the scenes) is timing.  If a pitcher is taking an abnormally long time between pitches than he is warned that he is "on the clock" meaning now he is officially being timed and there will be a penalty if he doesn't pick up the pace.  No one would say that there is a clock in golf and yet there actually is, it's just behind the scenes.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31881 on: February 21, 2015, 12:19:30 PM »
My idea is that instead of a big play clock or something the MLB should adopt a kind of "pace of play" rule like golf.  So have a set length of time in mind that a game should last and then adopt a reasonable length between pitches.  (however many seconds)  Then during the game an umpire (behind the scenes) is timing.  If a pitcher is taking an abnormally long time between pitches than he is warned that he is "on the clock" meaning now he is officially being timed and there will be a penalty if he doesn't pick up the pace.  No one would say that there is a clock in golf and yet there actually is, it's just behind the scenes.

I'm fine with that. However punishment can't be like starting with a 1-0 count or something, only monetary fines

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31882 on: February 21, 2015, 11:17:35 PM »
If the pitcher was timed it would really change how a runner leads off. The pitcher wouldn't throw it to keep him honest as much because he'd be conscience of the clock, so runners would get more comfortable getting further and further out. But maybe like a couple times a game the pitcher would find it necessary to throw it to a base. Boom, we got pickle.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31883 on: February 21, 2015, 11:24:19 PM »
If the pitcher was timed it would really change how a runner leads off. The pitcher wouldn't throw it to keep him honest as much because he'd be conscience of the clock, so runners would get more comfortable getting further and further out. But maybe like a couple times a game the pitcher would find it necessary to throw it to a base. Boom, we got pickle.

Hmmm. Interesting point.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31884 on: February 21, 2015, 11:51:31 PM »
anything that leads to more steals is good for baseball and good for america.
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31885 on: February 22, 2015, 12:10:44 AM »
If the pitcher was timed it would really change how a runner leads off. The pitcher wouldn't throw it to keep him honest as much because he'd be conscience of the clock, so runners would get more comfortable getting further and further out. But maybe like a couple times a game the pitcher would find it necessary to throw it to a base. Boom, we got pickle.

pitchers have an internal clock for how they hold runners.  this would really eff that timing up, its already hard enough to try and change your timing up.  it takes a lot of practice to hold until a batter calls time to mess the runners timing up, doesnt look like it from the outside, but its hard as crap.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31886 on: February 22, 2015, 12:22:08 AM »
Imagine FSD's reaction to being told that term limits were abolished and Obama was going to run again with Bill Clinton replacing Joe Biden as running mate. Imagine ksu_FAN being told by the doctor he can't play golf anymore. Imagine Skin Ben finding out from now on all stadiums will be exactly the same with 1 master template.

That's how I'd feel about a pitch clock.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31887 on: February 22, 2015, 12:23:30 AM »
These recent posts about pace of play are, IMO, our spring training. It's all about getting us back into the business of Royals baseball and I like it.  :royals:

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31888 on: February 22, 2015, 01:24:35 AM »
I'm happy they are looking at stuff. nothing has ever in the history of everything survived without innovating.

Baseball is the perfect sport, though. Any innovation outside of stuff like instant replay, which just serves to improve the enforcement of existing rules, only makes it worse. No new rules allowed for baseball, IMHO.

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« Reply #31889 on: February 22, 2015, 01:25:58 AM »
I'm happy they are looking at stuff. nothing has ever in the history of everything survived without innovating.

Baseball is the perfect sport, though. Any innovation outside of stuff like instant replay, which just serves to improve the enforcement of existing rules, only makes it worse. No new rules allowed for baseball, IMHO.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31890 on: February 22, 2015, 01:50:55 AM »
any innovation makes it worse

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31891 on: February 22, 2015, 09:22:22 AM »
Lol that baseball is perfect
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« Reply #31892 on: February 22, 2015, 09:43:33 AM »
Keep it the way it is. Pace of play stuff is stupid. No clock, no timing, no limits is part of the romance of baseball

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31893 on: February 22, 2015, 07:18:42 PM »
Imagine FSD's reaction to being told that term limits were abolished and Obama was going to run again with Bill Clinton replacing Joe Biden as running mate. Imagine ksu_FAN being told by the doctor he can't play golf anymore. Imagine Skin Ben finding out from now on all stadiums will be exactly the same with 1 master template.

That's how I'd feel about a pitch clock.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31894 on: February 22, 2015, 07:19:52 PM »
Baseball isn't perfect, sure, but a big part of its appeal is that the game is almost completely unchanged since the turn of the century. A baseball game in 1925 looks pretty much like it does today. Football and basketball are much more constantly evolving and changing.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31895 on: February 22, 2015, 07:30:53 PM »
Baseball isn't perfect, sure, but a big part of its appeal is that the game is almost completely unchanged since the turn of the century. A baseball game in 1925 looks pretty much like it does today. Football and basketball are much more constantly evolving and changing.

In some ways you are correct, but in a lot of ways you are ignoring tons of developments in even basic things like the height of the mound, the type of balls and bats used, instant replay, challenges, DH, use of relievers, the number of games in a season, the fact that there are no double headers and almost exclusively night games etc.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31896 on: February 22, 2015, 07:32:26 PM »
Replay, wild cards, interleague play, DH, all star game determining home field for WS seem like pretty significant changes to me.  Didn't they recently ban home plate collisions?  I'd say baseball has changed plenty.  Which isn't a bad thing. 
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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31897 on: February 22, 2015, 07:41:56 PM »
Replay, wild cards, interleague play, DH, all star game determining home field for WS seem like pretty significant changes to me.  Didn't they recently ban home plate collisions?  I'd say baseball has changed plenty.  Which isn't a bad thing.

also huge changes.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31898 on: February 22, 2015, 07:50:47 PM »
Replay, wild cards, interleague play, DH, all star game determining home field for WS seem like pretty significant changes to me.  Didn't they recently ban home plate collisions?  I'd say baseball has changed plenty.  Which isn't a bad thing.

Other than home plate collisions, those are changes to the league, not the game itself.

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Re: The Royals
« Reply #31899 on: February 22, 2015, 07:53:17 PM »
Replay, wild cards, interleague play, DH, all star game determining home field for WS seem like pretty significant changes to me.  Didn't they recently ban home plate collisions?  I'd say baseball has changed plenty.  Which isn't a bad thing.

Other than home plate collisions, those are changes to the league, not the game itself.

Replay and DH haven't changed the game?  Surely you are trolling. 
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