The Royals

[kso_FAN]

So when MysStarter goes 3.1, 8 H, 4 R,  we bring in Finnegan thru the 5th or 6th, then HDH if it's close, Collins/Frasor if not

Mystarter won't go that long.

[mocat]

So when MysStarter goes 3.1, 8 H, 4 R,  we bring in Finnegan thru the 5th or 6th, then HDH if it's close, Collins/Frasor if not

yeah

[kso_FAN]

If its a shaky start by Vargas, Guthrie, or Duffy I think Ned will be really quick to pull the trigger. Right now I think he'll let Shields and Ventura work through some jams, but the other guys he'll pull.

['taterblast]

holy crap guys

To win the 2014 World Series
52   Washington Nationals      +800   
54   LA Dodgers      +550   
55   Baltimore Orioles      +225   
56   St. Louis Cardinals      +450   
59   Kansas City Royals      +350   
60   San Francisco Giants      +600   

['taterblast]

ok that's not as good once you realize both NLDS are still going on BUT STILL

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

ok that's not as good once you realize both NLDS are still going on BUT STILL

i wasnt going to say anything... we deserve this. FAVORITES! (kinda)

[mocat]

what do those numbers even mean

[steve dave]

what do those numbers even mean

it means we are underdogs to the orioles

[steve dave]

and once the NL division series are over we're going to be underdogs to both of those teams as well

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

and once the NL division series are over we're going to be underdogs to both of those teams as well

basically it means weve got em right where we want em!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, well those Vegas bozos probably thought we would lose to the Angels, too, and we swept those bums. Vegas will never be Royal like us. We will beat the Orioles, too.

[sys]

A couple of things here. Ned was on 810 this morning. Said Duffy is 100%, but he just liked him in case Vargas got in trouble. He thought our mathcups with the Angels made more sense with him being the long relief guy. 2. He announced Shields would be a game 1 guy, but doesn't know after that. He said Guthrie and Ventura will definitely make starts, but the 4th guy is down to Vargas or Duffy based off if we need them from the pen in the first 3 games.

that's part of the thing that's sketchy to me.  somewhere (blog, reporter, don't remember), i saw some people saying or reporting that the royals thought he had a problem with his mechanics pop up and that's why he isn't getting starts.  it wasn't clear to me if the mechanics thing is something that they think makes him more vulnerable to getting injured or they just think it'll make him pitch poorly.  it also wasn't at all clear if it was something that popped up after the injury or maybe existed before and they think contributed to the injury or what.  basically the whole thing is super sketchy because either no one is asking the royals or the royals aren't answering.

[sys]

btw, same reaction on guthrie as vargas.  it's fine to pitch them.  deliberately pitching either of them at camden (twice!) instead of kauffman when they could use ventura in the camden games is simply Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[Cartierfor3]

Ned just told Nate Bukaty he's going Shields/Ventura in Baltimore. 

Also, only 11 pitchers, so I'd imagine the roster will be:

Pitchers:
Shields
Ventura
Duffy
Vargas
Guthrie
Davis
Finnegan
Herrera
Holland
Frasor
Collins

Position Players:
Salvy
Kratz

Hos
Infante
Moose
Escobar
Billy
Colon

Gordon
Dyson
Cain
Aoki
Willingham
Gore

Ibanez/Nix are left off. JMHO

[Cartierfor3]

I mean, Willingham is a valuable player especially with games in Baltimore. You get a lefty on the mound late in a game he can pinch hit for Moose, or go in at DH after Billy gets PR for. And Gore is just a dynamic weapon to unleash upon these losers.

[420seriouscat69]

Ned just told Nate Bukaty he's going Shields/Ventura in Baltimore. 

Yup!

[bones129]

Collins makes me nervous but he'll likely stay on the roster.

[Cartierfor3]

Ventura went 1-1 with a 1.26 ERA in 14 1/3 innings in two starts against the Orioles this season. Also, Ventura surrendered fewer home runs this season (14) than any of the Royals starters except Danny Duffy.

 

[mocat]

Ned just told Nate Bukaty he's going Shields/Ventura in Baltimore. 

Also, only 11 pitchers, so I'd imagine the roster will be:

Pitchers:
Shields
Ventura
Duffy
Vargas
Guthrie
Davis
Finnegan
Herrera
Holland
Frasor
Collins

Position Players:
Salvy
Kratz

Hos
Infante
Moose
Escobar
Billy
Colon

Gordon
Dyson
Cain
Aoki
Willingham
Gore

Ibanez/Nix are left off. JMHO

this is maybe my favorite CF3 post ever

[Cartierfor3]

Collins makes me nervous but he'll likely stay on the roster.

Samesies but I mean, its either him, Crow, or Coleman for that last spot. Hopefully we don't need Collins. I'd rather him on the hill than Crow

[The Tonya Harding of Twitter Users Creep]

collins is the last guy we go to and im fine with him being on there. he got the outs we needed.

duffy isnt hurt. he pitched and has been on the roster. hes a long relief/emergency starter right now.

[Cartierfor3]

I mean, if we go to Baltimore and come home behind 0-2, I think we can all live with it if Yordano was the guy on the mound for game 2. I mean, look at Vargas's starts in September. The game in Anaheim WAS the outlier, and should not be expected to happen again. If we lose, we lose, but I want them to have to beat our best guys.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/6352/jason-vargas

[Emo EMAW]

So what changed, or what's different, between the Angels and Baltimore series, re:  Vargie?

[nicname]

btw, same reaction on guthrie as vargas.  it's fine to pitch them.  deliberately pitching either of them at camden (twice!) instead of kauffman when they could use ventura in the camden games is simply Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Ventura walks a lot of guys and gives up more home runs than Vargas. Guthrie should definitely only be pitching at home, but the other two are pretty much a toss-up.

[nicname]

I mean, if we go to Baltimore and come home behind 0-2, I think we can all live with it if Yordano was the guy on the mound for game 2. I mean, look at Vargas's starts in September. The game in Anaheim WAS the outlier, and should not be expected to happen again. If we lose, we lose, but I want them to have to beat our best guys.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/gamelog/_/id/6352/jason-vargas

Woof, not a positive trend.