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[Houcat]

Has to be the worst defensive performance since Prince left.  Simply embarrassing.
Safeties and linebackers beat continuously.  They are all slow, can't tackle or cover.  Simply embarrassing.
Hartman got beat so bad for a BU TD when he was suppose to pick up the wide end as the DB blitzed.  Simply embarrassing.  What is this guy's problem?
Aufner replaced by Hanson on next series after the 2 illegal procedure penalties and Hanson promptly got beat.  Simply embarrassing. 

Baylor DTs HUGE.  I wish we had size and strength like that.
Couldn't lay a hand on RG3.  RG3 = best QB in B12.  What a talent.  He didn't run that much

Never saw Powell at RB but what a great return for the TD.
Thomas' pass classic.  I was just telling the guy beside me that Thomas has to pass sooner or later.
Coffman not all that bad, 4 outstanding passes on 3rd and long but forced too many and can't run worth a lick.

All in all, the defense is simply embarrassing and Cosh HAS TO GO.  I don't think it can get much worst.  We couldn't have won with 13 guys on defense.
Sort of happy for Baylor though, going to a bowl and all that this year.

[Pett]

Sort of happy for Baylor though, going to a bowl and all that this year.

Felt kind of guilty that I was happy for Baylor at the end of the game with how pissed off I was. They were even passing out pre-printed Waco newspaper with headlines that read "Baylor is Going Bowling!!" Very cute.

[cas4ksu]

I say Snyder burns Billy's redshirt just to rough ridin' piss of Chris.

Go to hell cosh.

[Havs]

Sort of happy for Baylor though, going to a bowl and all that this year.

Felt kind of guilty that I was happy for Baylor at the end of the game with how pissed off I was. They were even passing out pre-printed Waco newspaper with headlines that read "Baylor is Going Bowling!!" Very cute.

And people say Iowa State is bottom of the Big 12. 

Didn't think anything could bring me down tonight, but the fire escape is looking pretty good right about now.

[BigCat]

Almost unbelievable how far ahead Baylor Bears athletics is compared to KSU. 'grats Havs

[kstatefreak42]

 

[michigancat]

Has to be the worst defensive performance since Prince left.  Simply embarrassing.

It was worse than any Prince performance.  Again. 

[catzacker]

Has to be the worst defensive performance since Prince left.  Simply embarrassing.

It was worse than any Prince performance.  Again. 

rusty, we beat ku.  that's all that matters. 

[michigancat]

Has to be the worst defensive performance since Prince left.  Simply embarrassing.

It was worse than any Prince performance.  Again. 

rusty, we beat ku.  that's all that matters. 

And you could argue that we're better than Prince. 

[catzacker]

Has to be the worst defensive performance since Prince left.  Simply embarrassing.

It was worse than any Prince performance.  Again.  

rusty, we beat ku.  that's all that matters.  

And you could argue that we're better than Prince.  

Rusty, please don't tell let this get out, because it will be tough for a lot of fans to take, but it's shockingly comparable:
       Scoring O     Scoring D
Ronald
06     22.8                23.8
07     35.2                30.8**
08     34.9                35.8
Old Balls
09     23.0                23.3
10     33.9                25.9**

**through 7 games in '07 (after a tough road loss in a shoot at OSU, 39-41) KSU's D was giving up 22.7ppg.  Prince did make it to one bowl game though.

[I_have_purplewood]

'Simply embarrassing' has my vote for new name of the Football board.

[hemmy]

28-28 OU game was the worst defensive performance, no matter how good that OU offense was.  They scored just about all of the 55 first half points on drives of 3 plays or fewer.

[Cartierfor3]

Has to be the worst defensive performance since Prince left.  Simply embarrassing.

It was worse than any Prince performance.  Again. 

2007 in Lincoln would be hard to top for shitty performances.

[michigancat]

Has to be the worst defensive performance since Prince left.  Simply embarrassing.

It was worse than any Prince performance.  Again. 

2007 in Lincoln would be hard to top for shitty performances.

Yeah, you would think it would be hard.  But we still managed.

[kso_FAN]

I wouldn't say I'm surprised.  I fully expected Baylor to get 400-500 yards.  And as ridiculous as it is to say, if we "hold" Baylor to 500 yards, we win this game, probably by 2 scores.  But I didn't expect to give up the number of big plays that we did against Baylor.

What's most frustrating is (judging by the Baylor Highlights) many of the same problems that plagued us vs NU did AGAIN yesterday.  Poor run fits and bad angles against Baylor's running game.  Then, after that was exposed again, Baylor started going to more of a down-field passing game, getting 1 on 1 match-ups, and beating us badly.   Part of this was b/c we started to be more aggressive, utilizing less safety help and more man coverages, and it just led to different types of big plays.

And yes, at the end of the day a lot of the fault has to fall on the defensive staff.  We are not going to be a great defense, but there is no excuse of giving up big play after big play like we did against NU and BU.  Those are very good offenses, but you can scheme and play better than we did in either game.  

[catzacker]

Has to be the worst defensive performance since Prince left.  Simply embarrassing.

It was worse than any Prince performance.  Again. 

2007 in Lincoln would be hard to top for cacty performances.

Yeah, you would think it would be hard.  But we still managed.

I don't see why fans feel the need to find the worst defensive performance in two decades and then use that as a line of demarcation between what is "acceptable" and what isn't.  This exactly how we allowed basketball to get terrible.

[yoga-like_abana]

Simply Embarrassing

[Pete]

Has to be the worst defensive performance since Prince left.  Simply embarrassing.

It was worse than any Prince performance.  Again.  

2007 in Lincoln would be hard to top for cacty performances.

Yeah, you would think it would be hard.  But we still managed.

I don't see why fans feel the need to find the worst defensive performance in two decades and then use that as a line of demarcation between what is "acceptable" and what isn't.  This exactly how we allowed basketball to get terrible.

Agreed.  The notion that Old Balls was going to be able to create anything better than what we were in 2004 and 2005 was laughable when he was hired (and you and I both stated as much to anyone who would listen)....but now it's "simply embarrassing" ©

[CHONGS]

I broke this down post NU game, but to reiterate:

DE (which I think is the best measure for a defense, NOT yards allowed or simply points allowed)

vs NU 2010 = 70.67
vs NU 2007 = 68.43
vs TT 2009 = 66.0
vs BU 2010 = 61.84

[T42YS]

I broke this down post NU game, but to reiterate:

DE (which I think is the best measure for a defense, NOT yards allowed or simply points allowed)

vs NU 2010 = 70.67
vs NU 2007 = 68.43
vs TT 2009 = 66.0
vs BU 2010 = 61.84

thx

[michigancat]

I broke this down post NU game, but to reiterate:

DE (which I think is the best measure for a defense, NOT yards allowed or simply points allowed)

vs NU 2010 = 70.67
vs NU 2007 = 68.43
vs TT 2009 = 66.0
vs BU 2010 = 61.84

[sonofdaxjones]

I think OB needs to be told that if he doesn't completely overhaul the defensive coaching staff this offseason and/or also hire 1 if not 2 dynamic recruiters, and change his ways on recruiting he has to go (he should go anyway, but we all know that's not going to happen right now).  

Of course all the Powertards will roll out their litany of excuses about why this, or that can't be done, and it isn't easy blah, blah, blah.  

If you're going to have a "coach'm up mentality" (and I believe there's lots of credence to that in football as long as you're recruiting guys with a solid baseline to start with, like speed) then you've got to have guys who can . . . coach.

[Do Work Son]

I think OB needs to be told that if he doesn't completely overhaul the defensive coaching staff this offseason and/or also hire 1 if not 2 dynamic recruiters, and change his ways on recruiting he has to go (he should go anyway, but we all know that's not going to happen right now).  

Of course all the Powertards will roll out their litany of excuses about why this, or that can't be done, and it isn't easy blah, blah, blah.  

If you're going to have a "coach'm up mentality" (and I believe there's lots of credence to that in football as long as you're recruiting guys with a solid baseline to start with, like speed) then you've got to have guys who can . . . coach.

Come on home, Brent! WE WANT YOU!! Chokelahoma doesn't like you anyways

[kso_FAN]

I think OB needs to be told that if he doesn't completely overhaul the defensive coaching staff this offseason and/or also hire 1 if not 2 dynamic recruiters, and change his ways on recruiting he has to go (he should go anyway, but we all know that's not going to happen right now).  

Of course all the Powertards will roll out their litany of excuses about why this, or that can't be done, and it isn't easy blah, blah, blah.  

If you're going to have a "coach'm up mentality" (and I believe there's lots of credence to that in football as long as you're recruiting guys with a solid baseline to start with, like speed) then you've got to have guys who can . . . coach.

I think Burns and Joe Bob are fine to stay.  Mo retiring wouldn't be a bad thing.  And the coordinator definitely needs to be adjusted.  

[CHONGS]

28-28 OU game was the worst defensive performance, no matter how good that OU offense was.  They scored just about all of the 55 first half points on drives of 3 plays or fewer.

First half v OU 2008 = 1.25
Second half v NU 2010 = 1.15
3rd Q vs NU 2010 = 2.33