2011 Recruiting Thread

[sonofdaxjones]

It's that newly discovered curse of Melvin that Dalonte can't seem to overcome(Watkins was his HC at Charlotte).

Dalonte has a chance here to reverse a couple of bad trends, losing recruits to MU and breaking the DCA dryspell. Personally, I say offer Harrison, get him on board ASAP, and remove any drama from the situation but I would not be disappointed if we ended up with Seagears. Really looks fast, strong, and very athletic overall, which I know makes our staff

 

[treysolid]

so it's been pretty obvious for a while now that the 2011 class will consist of a SG/SF tweener (Nino), a PG or comboguard (most likely Angel) and a forward.  As far as that forward spot is concerned, we've now offered Gipson and Luke Mergerson loves us:

I recently became aware that Kansas State was also considering you. How does that make you feel?
Luke Mergerson:  That makes me feel great. I was receiving letters with information regarding their program, but I didn't know that they were interested in me. They are a great program with a very intense and great coach. There is a player named Nick Russell on the team who I am cool with. He went to Duncanville and then graduated from Arlington Grace Prep.

Unfortunately for Luke, he's probably our 4th or 5th option after Finney-Smith, Cunningham and Gipson.

[sys]

so it's been pretty obvious for a while now that the 2011 class will consist of a SG/SF tweener (Nino), a PG or comboguard (most likely Angel) and a forward.

i don't think that's obvious yet.  especially with lawrence clouding the issue.  also, finney-smith is a 3.

[treysolid]

lawrence doesn't cloud the issue.  he's insurance.

[Underdog Wildcat]

FWIW, Finney-Smith recently cut his list to 6 and we didn't make it.

"Norcom junior Dorian Finney-Smith has narrowed his list of colleges down to Virginia Tech, Virginia, Maryland, Florida, Wake Forest and Old Dominion."

http://hamptonroads.com/2010/06/boys-basketball-norcoms-finneysmith-narrows-list-six?cid=poblg

[Underdog Wildcat]

From sys post above, I guess we're still sorta talking to Boatright. Boat gets plenty of love from ESPN in the writeup below.

Ryan Boatright (Aurora, Ill./East)
2011, PG, 5-foot-10, 155 pounds
He attacked defenders off the dribble without mercy with his extra-tight handle. Boatright keeps the ball on a string as he crosses over and goes in between his legs at high speeds, with a fully loaded offensive arsenal at his disposal. When he receives the outlet, he can be at the rim in the blink of an eye. When Boatright can't get all the way to the rim, he knocks down a high-arching floater or stops and pops from midrange. When the defender backs away because of his excellent speed and quickness, Boatright rises up and knocks down the 3. He can create a shot at will and put up big numbers very quickly. His pace and energy on the offensive end is always at a high level.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5310182

Top Scorers from NBPA camp
1. P.J. Hairston - 15.8
2. B.J. Young - 14.7
2. Chane Behanan - 14.7
4. Cody Zeller - 14.3
5. Michael Gbinije - 14.0
6. Ryan Boatright - 13.0
7. Nick Faust - 12.8
8. D'Angelo Harriosn - 12.5
9. Josiah Turner - 11.8
10. Anthony Davis - 11.7
11. Rodney Purvis - 11.5
12. Anthony Gill - 11.3
13. Aaron Ross - 11.2
14. Deuce Bello - 11.0
14. Chris Jones - 11.0
16. Jabari Brown - 10.8
17. Wayne Blackshear - 10.7
18. Branden Dawson - 10.3
19. Jakarr Sampson - 10.2
19. Norman Powell 10.2

[mcmwcat]

could boatright defend any big 12 guards at that 5'10" 150?  doubt he's really 5'10 either

[yosh]

could boatright defend any big 12 guards at that 5'10" 150?  doubt he's really 5'10 either

His weight is probably an issue defensively.  Not worried about his height at all.  Plays longer/taller than Pullen or Clemente.

[sys]

lawrence doesn't cloud the issue.  he's insurance.

he's insurance, but not for '11s.  he insures against either a player getting run, or a '10 not qualifying.  if he kicks in for either, it changes the '11 picture.

[treysolid]

swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all.  only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture.  and that's not happening.

[Trim]

swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all.  only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture.  and that's not happening.

I need to buy Colombian, Panamanian and Jamaican flags.  When will I know if the Canadian flag should be added to my cart?

[sys]

swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all.  only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture.  and that's not happening.

swapping a 2009 1 for a 2010 3 doesn't make an '11 difference?

 

[treysolid]

swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all.  only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture.  and that's not happening.

swapping a 2009 1 for a 2010 3 doesn't make an '11 difference?

 

no.  not when you consider that we are overstocked and undertalented at both of those positions (notable exception being Jake). 

[sys]

no.  not when you consider that we are overstocked and undertalented at both of those positions (notable exception being Jake). 

i don't know if kstate is undertalented at the 3.  unquestionably overstocked though, ridiculously so if they take lawrence.

not at all overstocked at the 1 if myles doesn't make it.  in fact, the opposite.  agree on the undertalented part there though, which is why i think they'd have to look hard at taking 2pgs (pg and a combo) if they don't have myles.


almost, the only way taking either makes sense is if they are planning on running someone at the end of the year.

[yosh]

almost, the only way taking either makes sense is if they are planning on running someone at the end of the year.

both guys are just fill out the roster/take a flyer on types.  We're most assuredly running somebody off at the end of the season, and right now the most likely canidate is whomever makes it to campus between Lawrence and Myles.  (see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)  Either player would need to make a dramatic splash just to keep their spot IMO.  I doubt getting either one changes the way we recruit for '11.  Getting one is almost the same as leaving the 'ship open.

[sys]

(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)

myles sort of fits that profile.  lawrence doesn't at all.  if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.

[yosh]

(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)

myles sort of fits that profile.  lawrence doesn't at all.  if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.

If he's still a fatass, then they'll show him the door.

[sys]

If he's still a fatass, then they'll show him the door.

anything's possible, but that's not a plan, that's a failure.

[StayOutOfTrees]

(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)

myles sort of fits that profile.  lawrence doesn't at all.  if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.

I agree with sys, Lawrence fits more the Clemente, Kelly, and hopefully Asprilla model, than like the Herrera, Gilbert, and Awaji model. Two different monsters.

[yosh]

(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)

myles sort of fits that profile.  lawrence doesn't at all.  if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.

I agree with sys, Lawrence fits more the Clemente, Kelly, and hopefully Asprilla model, than like the Herrera, Gilbert, and Awaji model. Two different monsters.

Lawrence is closer to Herrera than Clemente or Kelly.

[jtksu]

Wasn't Kelly's rap at UCONN that he was fat and lazy?  Maybe a year with Greenie will help out Lawrence as well? 

[sys]

Lawrence is closer to Herrera than Clemente or Kelly.

ludicrous.  not in any way.

[yosh]

Lawrence is closer to Herrera than Clemente or Kelly.

ludicrous.  not in any way.

whatever.

[sys]

whatever.

would have to sit out a year, has 4 to play 3, has other high major (hell d1) offers, is interested in playing collegiate basketball:  minor differences.


the idea that the staff would offer a prominent player from one of the small number of areas they recruit with the intention of having him burn his rs, only to run him off without him ever seeing the court is borderline Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

[theswo]

would have to sit out a year, has 4 to play 3, has other high major (hell d1) offers, is interested in playing collegiate basketball:  minor differences.

Agree with all these points and I do think that Lawrence would be a pretty good get. However, he did have a fairly unimpressive year stats-wise as a part of a very mediocre St. John's squad, so I understand the concern.

He is more of a rebounding guard/defensive specialist though right?