TP is going to sue the crap out of the owners of this site. Not for just copying ksufans.com, but soliciting his members to join this site. You guys just FITZED up. Literally...
TP is going to sue the crap out of the owners of this site. Not for just copying ksufans.com, but soliciting his members to join this site. You guys just FITZED up. Literally...
Tell me again why we aren't going after Jack?
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.:pray:
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT
how is facebook NOT independent? its him typing the letters on a keyboard, and sending them lolsee if you can get him to confirm on twitter.I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT
yes, but that'd still just be the one source. you need an independent confirmation.
facebook was determined to be NON-INDEPENDENT by ICANN (http://www.icann.org/) like 6-8 weeks ago.how is facebook NOT independent? its him typing the letters on a keyboard, and sending them lolsee if you can get him to confirm on twitter.I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT
yes, but that'd still just be the one source. you need an independent confirmation.
QCook323:confused:
Had a great talk with one of the most influential people in my life @coachadkins. Love you coach! RiP DAD!
:embarrassed:QuoteQCook323:confused:
Had a great talk with one of the most influential people in my life @coachadkins. Love you coach! RiP DAD!
http://twitter.com/coachadkins (http://twitter.com/coachadkins) :runaway: :bawl:
QuoteQCook323:confused:
Had a great talk with one of the most influential people in my life @coachadkins. Love you coach! RiP DAD!
http://twitter.com/coachadkins (http://twitter.com/coachadkins) :runaway: :bawl:
anybody know anything about this guy?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Marquis-Jackson-104055?colleges=show#college_choices
anybody know anything about this guy?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Marquis-Jackson-104055?colleges=show#college_choices
Seems hella fast and athletic aka we could use him but Texas will steal him as a wide receiver.
UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!
:bang:Quote from: qcook323UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!
Quote from: qcook323UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!
:blindfold:Quote from: qcook323UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!
Quote from: qcook323UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!
Widespread reports of Limestone junior Donivine Stewart’s imminent commitment to Bradley could be premature. “DWorld” said Tuesday he likely will wait until next summer to choose a college, and he mentioned Northwestern and Clemson as schools that were supposed to be in Pekin to watch him. Through Tuesday, however, the only college coaches to see Stewart were Bradley’s unpaid assistant, Chuck Buescher, and Western Illinois boss Jim Molinari.
sys, what are our chances with Cook?Pretty good according to what he told me. kstate is "pretty high" on his list.
Pretty good according to what he told me. kstate is "pretty high" on his list.
It was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.Pretty good according to what he told me. kstate is "pretty high" on his list.
weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?
kstatefreak42 seems to have DL on all the 'cruits. :cool:It was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.Pretty good according to what he told me. kstate is "pretty high" on his list.
weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?
kstatefreak42 seems toIt was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.Pretty good according to what he told me. kstate is "pretty high" on his list.
weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?have DL onbe stalking all the 'cruits. :cool:
wouldnt say the dL. I dont rely on other source's.. I just go ahead and ask them straight up. and if they reply, i report the information back herekstatefreak42 seems toIt was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.Pretty good according to what he told me. kstate is "pretty high" on his list.
weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?have DL onbe stalking all the 'cruits. :cool:
FYP
In terms of recruiting, there are numerous schools showing Larkin attention.
"It has been going good," he said. "I am hearing from Clemson, California, Minnesota, Harvard called, Virginia, Georgia, USF, Wake Forest, Cincinnati, VCU, George Mason, UCF, Georgia Tech, and some others."
Out of those schools, Larkin has offers from Clemson, South Florida, VCU, George Mason, and Central Florida.
Indication we are feeling pretty good about Angel? Seems like, with the list of schools he mentioned, we would get mentioned if we were pursuing.
KCPREPHOOPS Top 6 players in Kansas City at this point- Daylen Robinson, Trevor Releford, Nino Williams, Maurice Holliday, Will Spradling, Deontae Hooks
wouldnt say the dL. I dont rely on other source's.. I just go ahead and ask them straight up. and if they reply, i report the information back herekstatefreak42 seems toIt was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.Pretty good according to what he told me. kstate is "pretty high" on his list.
weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?have DL onbe stalking all the 'cruits. :cool:
FYP
good idea.wouldnt say the dL. I dont rely on other source's.. I just go ahead and ask them straight up. and if they reply, i report the information back herekstatefreak42 seems toIt was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.Pretty good according to what he told me. kstate is "pretty high" on his list.
weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?have DL onbe stalking all the 'cruits. :cool:
FYP
make more facebook accounts under different schools, and compare the responses
QuoteKCPREPHOOPS Top 6 players in Kansas City at this point- Daylen Robinson, Trevor Releford, Nino Williams, Maurice Holliday, Will Spradling, Deontae Hooks
Wessel to Wichita State.
Hmmm, we're on McLemore's scout profile.
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4811085
Hmmm, we're on McLemore's scout profile.
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4811085
nice. should I be scared of going head to head for a kid with Mike Anderson?
Hmmm, we're on McLemore's scout profile.
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4811085
nice. should I be scared of going head to head for a kid with Mike Anderson?
Hmmm, we're on McLemore's scout profile.
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4811085
nice. should I be scared of going head to head for a kid with Mike Anderson?
McCaw listed Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Ole Miss and Providence as schools that have already offered. Kansas State has recently called, and McCaw will be busy fielding many more calls in the coming days.
In 8th grade, McLemore stood just 5-foot-8. He began to grow as he reached high school and during his sophomore season he was stuck in the post and averaged 15 points and 10 boards a game.
Then at the beginning of his junior year, McCaw was hired at Eskridge and he began the transition to playing on the wing.
“I asked him ‘what position do you think you play?,’ McCaw said. “He said he was a four, and I told him ‘no, you’re a guard.’ If he wants to prepare for the next level he had to become a guard.”
“He’s getting more and more acclimated with the system and more comfortable,” the Eskridge coach added. “His court awareness is better and I’m bringing him along because I played point guard. I’m helping him process to know what he’s doing.”
With the move to the wing, McLemore has put countless hours in the gym, and it’s beginning to pay off. In fact he’s nearly doubled his point production, as he averages 28 points, 13 rebounds and just over six assists per game.
McLemore, who just turned 17, had interest from Mississippi, Providence, Missouri, Missouri State, Southern Illinois, St. Louis, TN-Martin and Tennessee State prior to this weekend. On Sunday and Monday a few high majors tossed their hats in the mix.
“I’ve had Arkansas call, Kansas State call and I just got off the phone with Ohio State,” McCaw informed Scout.com. “Everything has just sped up.
McLemore is 6 feet 5, weighs 185 pounds and is loaded with athleticism. Before he suits up for the St. Louis Eagles travel team alongside Beal this spring, McLemore will already have plenty of scholarship offers.
McCaw listed Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Ole Miss and Providence as schools that have already offered. Kansas State has recently called, and McCaw will be busy fielding many more calls in the coming days.
McCaw sounds like a good dude. At least for a high school coach.
He's a freak...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5HXWx7GdBs
According to McCaw, McLemore has some work to do in the classroom, but he is making good progress and hopes to become eligible for his freshman season in college.
"I have some catching up to do," said McLemore. "I got behind my freshman and sophomore years, but I'm picking it up and my grades are good this year."
This has a lot of potential to be a dumb question, if it is, you can go easy on me.
For HBBIQ posters, it is obvious that we have hit a wall with recruiting. Is there any chance that this is because Martin and co. plan on leaving and see no need to recruit here?
This has a lot of potential to be a dumb question, if it is, you can go easy on me.
For HBBIQ posters, it is obvious that we have hit a wall with recruiting. Is there any chance that this is because Martin and co. plan on leaving and see no need to recruit here?
No. That would be setting yourself up for failure. Plus, he could always attempt to take the recruits with him (see Huggins).
This has a lot of potential to be a dumb question, if it is, you can go easy on me.
For HBBIQ posters, it is obvious that we have hit a wall with recruiting. Is there any chance that this is because Martin and co. plan on leaving and see no need to recruit here?
No. That would be setting yourself up for failure. Plus, he could always attempt to take the recruits with him (see Huggins).
For the record, I can't see Frank trying to do this.
No. That would be setting yourself up for failure. Plus, he could always attempt to take the recruits with him (see Huggins).
For the record, I can't see Frank trying to do this.
he's not going to leave asprilla stranded out in buttfrack, ks.
:embarrassed: I live in buttfrack?
don't really have a feel for the protocol on this: can it be assumed that goEMAW readers also check the ksufans recruiting threads? or should info there be placed here?
at any rate, per scout as interpreted on ksufans, justin gant got a few letters from kstate. here's his profile:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Justin-Gant-84522
I'm banned. You should let anyone posting in ksufans threads that the true bb recruiting followers are here, and that's where they should post all their info.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/AR2010030404491.html
cook article, no mention of kstate. the new staff at arizona is doing a great job of getting mentions and visits.
i'll be really surprised if kstate gets a visit.
townsend in st. louis watching mclemore last night, btw.
saw that. Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something. :flush:
saw that. Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something. :flush:
your pessimism is starting to rub off. i'm going to need to start seeing some 2011-12 mentions soon.
saw that. Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something. :flush:
your pessimism is starting to rub off. i'm going to need to start seeing some 2011-12 mentions soon.
all the recruiting threads are incredibly depressing to read. even when jmart was finding out recruiting tidbits, there were still other ksu mentions to be googled. now, there's just nothing.
saw that. Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something. :flush:
your pessimism is starting to rub off. i'm going to need to start seeing some 2011-12 mentions soon.
all the recruiting threads are incredibly depressing to read. even when jmart was finding out recruiting tidbits, there were still other ksu mentions to be googled. now, there's just nothing.
to be fair, it's not a real busy time. When the AAU tourneys start up, we'll hopefully get another "Boynton saying, 'yeah, look into me listing KSU first'" moment. (really, that was the peak of KSU basketball recruiting since November of 07.)
saw that. Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something. :flush:
your pessimism is starting to rub off. i'm going to need to start seeing some 2011-12 mentions soon.
all the recruiting threads are incredibly depressing to read. even when jmart was finding out recruiting tidbits, there were still other ksu mentions to be googled. now, there's just nothing.
to be fair, it's not a real busy time. When the AAU tourneys start up, we'll hopefully get another "Boynton saying, 'yeah, look into me listing KSU first'" moment. (really, that was the peak of KSU basketball recruiting since November of 07.)
recruiting seems like it's been dry for a long, long time. it's basically been "did cook mention us in someone else's update? no? okay. has bhoops give us some stupid update on Perry Ellis yet?"
We should just announce a Rodriguez-Trioche committment to save face
I'm just hopeful we don't sign another Awaji/Gilbert JUCO in the late signing period for '10.
Will be interesting to see what Frank does with the 4 'ships available; this year's extra, then Pullen/Sutton/Kelly.
i'm praying for a juco guard. scared they're going to give it to some irving clone they think they can coach up.
rodriguez tricoche is going to make michigancat look pretty stupid when he ends up being as good as chris corchiani. hopefully he commits during his game with shane larkin tonight.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/04/1511826/hes-not-going-to-let-you-lose.html
i'm praying for a juco guard. scared they're going to give it to some irving clone they think they can coach up.
rodriguez tricoche is going to make michigancat look pretty stupid when he ends up being as good as chris corchiani. hopefully he commits during his game with shane larkin tonight.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/04/1511826/hes-not-going-to-let-you-lose.html
Hope you and Art and Shakey are right. Hopefully Tony Smith for the guard. (I really have no idea who would be better).
And sys was right yesterday, I look forward to the Rodriguez comparos to Denis by upset "traditional" K-State fans.
``The thing that is beautiful about Angel is that he's uninterested in the individual side of the game,'' Rodriguez said. ``He's so conscious of the team concept, but he'll go out and get 39 against Columbus because he has to. Then, he'll go have seven points and 10 assists in the next game. He's a special kid with special qualities. It's all about his basketball team. That's the greatest thing a player can have. All his teammates love playing with him.''
About where will Angel end up in the rankings?(not that it matters) High 3 star? 4 star?Stacy Dean: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:
Dobbie: 6 :D :D :D :D :D :D out of 8About where will Angel end up in the rankings?(not that it matters) High 3 star? 4 star?Stacy Dean: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:
"I have been hearing a lot from Oklahoma, Xavier, Cincinnati, South Florida, Western Kentucky, and Alabama is recruiting me pretty hard," explained Goff. "I have offers from Oklahoma and Cincinnati."
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057
Art being Art.
clone of J.J. Barea:surprised:
More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters. Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?
More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters. Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?
Well, he was in town...
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057
Art being Art.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057
Art being Art.
More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters. Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?
you sound like one persistant SOB, you have a background in collections?http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057
Art being Art.
More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters. Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?
Tried calling Angel himself a week or so ago. Couldn't get him. Nothing wrong with interviewing Art. Good dude. I expect Rodriguez to end up at K-State.
Tried calling Angel himself a week or so ago. Couldn't get him. Nothing wrong with interviewing Art. Good dude. I expect Rodriguez to end up at K-State.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057
Art being Art.
More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters. Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?
Tried calling Angel himself a week or so ago. Couldn't get him. Nothing wrong with interviewing Art. Good dude. I expect Rodriguez to end up at K-State.
tropicalshox says we're interested in this guy:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/hickoryhusker/basketball/recruiting/player-Alexander-Hutson-103740
I think it's old info, though:
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9106
tropicalshox says we're interested in this guy:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/hickoryhusker/basketball/recruiting/player-Alexander-Hutson-103740
I think it's old info, though:
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9106
Any idea on the connection?
I hope to god our recruiting reporters are as lazy as they seem. :flush:
so we pretty much have no shot at Cook, correct? Is 'Te on the "every other year" recruiting schedule? Or is this just fallout from Curtis hating us now?
so we pretty much have no shot at Cook, correct? Is 'Te on the "every other year" recruiting schedule? Or is this just fallout from Curtis hating us now?
Cook is 2011, so this would put him on the "every three years" recruiting schedule. Hopefully. :blank:
Is this just fallout from Curtis hating us now? Or is 'Te just incredibly and undeniably overrated?
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook. Obviously, they won't sign all three. They see PG as the first need right now. Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.
Quote from: RobCassidyFor 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook. Obviously, they won't sign all three. They see PG as the first need right now. Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.
Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.
Quote from: RobCassidyFor 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook. Obviously, they won't sign all three. They see PG as the first need right now. Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.
Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.
Is there anything out there telling them/us otherwise?
Quote from: RobCassidyFor 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook. Obviously, they won't sign all three. They see PG as the first need right now. Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.
Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.
Is there anything out there telling them/us otherwise?
Yeah, like every interview ever done with Cook since he's been alive.
Quote from: RobCassidyFor 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook. Obviously, they won't sign all three. They see PG as the first need right now. Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.
Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.
Quote from: RobCassidyFor 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook. Obviously, they won't sign all three. They see PG as the first need right now. Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.
Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.
Gimme a break. That's just Cassidy reading the rivals database. If he really knew anything they would have articles on Boatright and Cook. Cassidy knows dick.
Quote from: RobCassidyFor 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook. Obviously, they won't sign all three. They see PG as the first need right now. Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.
Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.
Gimme a break. That's just Cassidy reading the rivals database. If he really knew anything they would have articles on Boatright and Cook. Cassidy knows dick.
Quote from: RobCassidyFor 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook. Obviously, they won't sign all three. They see PG as the first need right now. Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.
Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.
Gimme a break. That's just Cassidy reading the rivals database. If he really knew anything they would have articles on Boatright and Cook. Cassidy knows dick.
Quote from: RobCassidyFor 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook. Obviously, they won't sign all three. They see PG as the first need right now. Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.
Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.
Gimme a break. That's just Cassidy reading the rivals database. If he really knew anything they would have articles on Boatright and Cook. Cassidy knows dick.
i agree. i think rodriguez tricoche is basically theirs. anything else they recruit is either swinging for the fences with nothing to lose, or a backup plan.
the russell tidbit is interesting.
even w/ bigs? I would think they would want another big in '11.
even w/ bigs? I would think they would want another big in '11.
yeah, no. i just meant pgs. i also assume they want a big in '11. kinda don't like that there's no mentions w. quality '11 bigs.
Top 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...
I know more than dick on the subject.
Quote from: CassidyI know more than dick on the subject.
Gotta love it when Echofon catches deleted comments!
Will Martin's extension help with recruiting?
Quote from: CassidyI know more than dick on the subject.
Gotta love it when Echofon saves deleted tweets!
Quote from: CassidyI know more than dick on the subject.
Gotta love it when Echofon saves deleted tweets!
Quote from: re. A-Rod-TriTop 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...
Quote from: re. A-Rod-TriTop 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...
:eek:
Quote from: re. A-Rod-TriTop 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...
:eek:
i'm not on the tweetosphere, who's that quote from?
Quote from: re. A-Rod-TriTop 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...
:eek:
i'm not on the tweetosphere, who's that quote from?
Not a tweet, but source is A+++
ballplayers?
"It is the same, but Kansas is in the mix now and Arizona is in the mix," explained Cook of his recruitment. "Everything else is still the same. I don't have any favorites or anything. I am just taking everything one day at a time."
The offers from the Jayhawks and the Wildcats join existing grants from Georgetown, Indiana, Kansas State, Maryland, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest.
Recently Cook made an unofficial visit to College Park to check out the Terrapins game against the Duke Blue Devils.
the russell tidbit is interesting.
cook update. nothing new.Quote"It is the same, but Kansas is in the mix now and Arizona is in the mix," explained Cook of his recruitment. "Everything else is still the same. I don't have any favorites or anything. I am just taking everything one day at a time."
The offers from the Jayhawks and the Wildcats join existing grants from Georgetown, Indiana, Kansas State, Maryland, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest.
Recently Cook made an unofficial visit to College Park to check out the Terrapins game against the Duke Blue Devils.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061885
cook update. nothing new.Quote"It is the same, but Kansas is in the mix now and Arizona is in the mix," explained Cook of his recruitment. "Everything else is still the same. I don't have any favorites or anything. I am just taking everything one day at a time."
The offers from the Jayhawks and the Wildcats join existing grants from Georgetown, Indiana, Kansas State, Maryland, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest.
Recently Cook made an unofficial visit to College Park to check out the Terrapins game against the Duke Blue Devils.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061885
WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:
cook update. nothing new.Quote"It is the same, but Kansas is in the mix now and Arizona is in the mix," explained Cook of his recruitment. "Everything else is still the same. I don't have any favorites or anything. I am just taking everything one day at a time."
The offers from the Jayhawks and the Wildcats join existing grants from Georgetown, Indiana, Kansas State, Maryland, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest.
Recently Cook made an unofficial visit to College Park to check out the Terrapins game against the Duke Blue Devils.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061885
WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:
We fire 'Te on the spot if we lose him to KU, right? Someone tell me we are comfortable with A-Rod-Tri and we've "cooled" on him or something.
WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:
WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:
doesn't count. writer just offer listing.
WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:
doesn't count. writer just offer listing.
I know, idiot.
worse recruiting from now, forward: LHC Bill Snyder or Frank Marin?
worse recruiting from now, forward: LHC Bill Snyder or Frank Marin?
If Brown's already counted, then I've still got to go with Snyder being worse going forward.
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?
Cause Dalonte will be gone by then :popcorn:
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?
Do we know if he has a favorite at this point? He can step in and start right away most likely.
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?
Do we know if he has a favorite at this point? He can step in and start right away most likely.
I think we have a couple issues here:
a) I don't think he likes us
b) we may have a myscommit already at PG for this class
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?
Do we know if he has a favorite at this point? He can step in and start right away most likely.
I think we have a couple issues here:
a) I don't think he likes us
b) we may have a myscommit already at PG for this class
for 2011? or 2010?
We really need to have a better nickname than "a-rod-tri." It just doesn't flow, ya know?
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?I'll find out... last time we talked he said kstate was high on his list.
Dalonte Hill encountered the stress of game planning, practice and film sessions but also worked on the recruiting trail. In a move to build for the future while laboring in the present, Hill phoned Quinn Cook, the 20th-ranked prospect in the 2011 Class, frequently during the Wildcats' run to the Elite Eight.
:excited:QuoteDalonte Hill encountered the stress of game planning, practice and film sessions but also worked on the recruiting trail. In a move to build for the future while laboring in the present, Hill phoned Quinn Cook, the 20th-ranked prospect in the 2011 Class, frequently during the Wildcats' run to the Elite Eight.
:pbj:
not cook. cook's aau coach. who, imo, would be considerably more likely to commit to kstate.
All inclusive list of uncommitted 11's with K-state mentions.
Quincy Miller :lol:
Quinn Cook
Ben McLemore
Ryan Boatright
Angel Rodriguez
Thomas Gibson
Nino Williams
I'd be happy with any 4 of these, but is there any chance at all this class doesn't end up as Angel, Nino and some big we've never heard of? :blank: Somebody please convince me....
Finally, sounds like K-State is still in good shape with Angel Rodriguez, another Tropics point guard in the 2011 class.
I have a good buddy who plays baseball at Cloud County and he can't stop talking about Freddy. He got to watch a lot of their practices. And he uses the words "real deal" all of the time. Says he weighs about 275lbs and that his basketball coach loves to throw out Dexter Pittman comparisons when discussing Freddy. But claims he is much more nimble and agile. His strongest asset according to my friend is his footwork. He claims that if Freddy catches it down low then you might as well put two points on the board. His back to the basket moves are just fantastic. He also has a nice mid-range jump shot that he can consistently make out to about 17ft. And yeah I know he's going against god awful competition during practice, but still it's at least encouraging to hear this kind of stuff. His weakness is his defense as of right now. Just doesn't bring 100% effort on every play, but I'm sure that will change once he starts working with Frank.
Oh and my friend also claims that a Chicago Bulls scout has been at 3 or 4 different practices checking out the big guy. I just hope he is more successful than our last Firebird from Cloud County.
I have a good buddy who plays baseball at Cloud County and he can't stop talking about Freddy. He got to watch a lot of their practices. And he uses the words "real deal" all of the time. Says he weighs about 275lbs and that his basketball coach loves to throw out Dexter Pittman comparisons when discussing Freddy. But claims he is much more nimble and agile. His strongest asset according to my friend is his footwork. He claims that if Freddy catches it down low then you might as well put two points on the board. His back to the basket moves are just fantastic. He also has a nice mid-range jump shot that he can consistently make out to about 17ft. And yeah I know he's going against god awful competition during practice, but still it's at least encouraging to hear this kind of stuff. His weakness is his defense as of right now. Just doesn't bring 100% effort on every play, but I'm sure that will change once he starts working with Frank.
Oh and my friend also claims that a Chicago Bulls scout has been at 3 or 4 different practices checking out the big guy. I just hope he is more successful than our last Thunderbird from Cloud County.
Ben McLemore- He isn't sure who has offered him, but McLemore has Kansas clearly at the top of his list. Behind Kansas are Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Illinois, Tennessee and Providence. McLemore's high school is closing down after this year, and he is slated to attend Oak Hill Academy next year.
Not even a mention from McLemore on the latest Rivals update. So, apparently when Frank was getting contract advice from Snyder awhile back, OB slipped in some recruiting advice as well.QuoteBen McLemore- He isn't sure who has offered him, but McLemore has Kansas clearly at the top of his list. Behind Kansas are Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Illinois, Tennessee and Providence. McLemore's high school is closing down after this year, and he is slated to attend Oak Hill Academy next year.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1073326
Cook is Nolan Smith's god brother apparently :dunno:Curtis Malone is going to absolutely eff us isn't he?
Cook is Nolan Smith's god brother apparently :dunno:Curtis Malone is going to absolutely shazbot! us isn't he?
Kentucky, North Carolina, Maryland, Georgetown, Virginia, Arizona, Washington, Kansas State, Kansas, UNLV, Villanova, North Carolina State, “and a couple more” are the programs Cook said are recruiting him.
cook mentions kstate without lolling or being prompted to include them!QuoteKentucky, North Carolina, Maryland, Georgetown, Virginia, Arizona, Washington, Kansas State, Kansas, UNLV, Villanova, North Carolina State, “and a couple more” are the programs Cook said are recruiting him.
http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/04/11/nations-elite-in-pursuit-of-cook.aspx
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database. better than nothing.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321
suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.
U wanna make a wager? Are you guessing or is someone telling you this? The only people that stood between MD and Cook were Roy Williams and Dalonte Hill. The latter has been removed from the equation and the former will be on Thursday. Actually, Roy knows he will not recruit Cook anymore but it will not be formally known until after the UNC banquet.
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database. better than nothing.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321
suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.
suarez was mentioned on scout!
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database. better than nothing.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321
suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.
suarez was mentioned on scout!
Suarez was listed at a HS in TN and a HS in Georgia, too. Seems like a good fit for us.
edit: apparently he finished in ATL area:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/04/russell-never-lost-faith-in-heritages-ability/
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database. better than nothing.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321
suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.
suarez was mentioned on scout!
Suarez was listed at a HS in TN and a HS in Georgia, too. Seems like a good fit for us.
edit: apparently he finished in ATL area:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/04/russell-never-lost-faith-in-heritages-ability/
jfc. complete dogsh*t recruiting. warm up the neckbrace motherfackers.
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database. better than nothing.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321
suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.
suarez was mentioned on scout!
Suarez was listed at a HS in TN and a HS in Georgia, too. Seems like a good fit for us.
edit: apparently he finished in ATL area:
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/04/russell-never-lost-faith-in-heritages-ability/
jfc. complete dogsh*t recruiting. warm up the neckbrace motherfackers.
I'm not trying to be a tard, but I don't usually make any determinations about who we're recruiting until they've gone through the summer AAU season following their junior year.
A lot of kids, like Tony Mitchell, will make a big jump after the summer session and attending various camps.
I'm sure someone will correct me on this, but my observation has been that there will be a lot of movement in recruiting rankings, offers, etc. after the summer.
Zack is right. It is complete dogshit recruiting.
I will submit this into the discussion on dogsh*t recruiting...
Rivals has us listed with interest on 17 guys in 2011. I honestly don't think that's right.
Now, I'm wondering if the recruiting is really bad, or if the reporting of it is what shows a lack of interest.
I mean outside of calling Art Alvarez, hang out at the Manhattan Classic, or follow up on a lead found on a message board what has anyone done to follow Kansas State recruiting?
Again, not trying to be a tard, but since JMart left, Kansas State recruiting seems to have gone downhill too. Coincidence?
I will submit this into the discussion on dogsh*t recruiting...
Rivals has us listed with interest on 17 guys in 2011. I honestly don't think that's right.
Now, I'm wondering if the recruiting is really bad, or if the reporting of it is what shows a lack of interest.
I mean outside of calling Art Alvarez, hang out at the Manhattan Classic, or follow up on a lead found on a message board what has anyone done to follow Kansas State recruiting?
Again, not trying to be a tard, but since JMart left, Kansas State recruiting seems to have gone downhill too. Coincidence?
That has already been noticed, but does not at all explain the issue. If you read national recruiting from top prospects even the mention of KSU interest has declined over the last 2 classes.
I will submit this into the discussion on dogsh*t recruiting...
Rivals has us listed with interest on 17 guys in 2011. I honestly don't think that's right.
Now, I'm wondering if the recruiting is really bad, or if the reporting of it is what shows a lack of interest.
I mean outside of calling Art Alvarez, hang out at the Manhattan Classic, or follow up on a lead found on a message board what has anyone done to follow Kansas State recruiting?
Again, not trying to be a tard, but since JMart left, Kansas State recruiting seems to have gone downhill too. Coincidence?
but i still also wonder if the staff isn't making an active effort to conceal recruiting efforts for some unknowable reason. i know it sounds stupid, but i still wonder it.
i think there is a small recruiting decline effect (loss of dca connection), but there is a far greater lack-of-coverage effect.
i've run this idea past several of the kstate media, and basically had it shot down. but i still also wonder if the staff isn't making an active effort to conceal recruiting efforts for some unknowable reason. i know it sounds stupid, but i still wonder it.
KSU got a TON of mentions from top 100 types in the 08 and 09 classes, and they didn't come via J-Mart - they all came from guys like Telep and Meyer in their AAU tourney recaps. The only mention we got from Boo Williams is Suarez, and that's really pathetic. J-Mart has nothing to do with it.
maybe the staff just knows that they can win by doing things the right way. they don't need the "mercedes" recruits to win, instead they're building a foundation the way it is meant to be built and that will last.
i'd love to see what kind of recruiting the lot of you who are being so critical could pull off. i know this much, none of the sh*t talkers here have been to the Elite Eight before, guess what? Frank and his staff have been. Tia.
maybe the staff just knows that they can win by doing things the right way. they don't need the "mercedes" recruits to win, instead they're building a foundation the way it is meant to be built and that will last.
KSU got a TON of mentions from top 100 types in the 08 and 09 classes, and they didn't come via J-Mart - they all came from guys like Telep and Meyer in their AAU tourney recaps. The only mention we got from Boo Williams is Suarez, and that's really pathetic. J-Mart has nothing to do with it.
yeah, that's why i wonder about the idea that the staff is covering their tracks.
i do think they are being very targeted with their '11 ships, basically just recruiting a pg (3 targets?), and probably an unknown big. but you'd think that there would be a scattering of mentions with the big targets, even if they're only looking at a small number of possibilities for one 'ship. and there aren't.
maybe the staff just knows that they can win by doing things the right way. they don't need the "mercedes" recruits to win, instead they're building a foundation the way it is meant to be built and that will last.
i'd love to see what kind of recruiting the lot of you who are being so critical could pull off. i know this much, none of the sh*t talkers here have been to the Elite Eight before, guess what? Frank and his staff have been. Tia.
I don't know how staffs could possibly do this. The only way a KSU mention goes undocumented is because the kid was never asked because the kid wasn't/isn't on anyone's radar because he's not getting looks by anyone worth mentioning.
damn it. i considered a u digg? but didn't go with one. damn it.maybe the staff just knows that they can win by doing things the right way. they don't need the "mercedes" recruits to win, instead they're building a foundation the way it is meant to be built and that will last.
i'd love to see what kind of recruiting the lot of you who are being so critical could pull off. i know this much, none of the sh*t talkers here have been to the Elite Eight before, guess what? Frank and his staff have been. Tia.
F'ing love clams. Need to finish that with a "u digg?" though.
I don't know how staffs could possibly do this. The only way a KSU mention goes undocumented is because the kid was never asked because the kid wasn't/isn't on anyone's radar because he's not getting looks by anyone worth mentioning.
just ask the recruit not to mention. that part is really easy. the difficult part with the hypothesis is coming up with a motivation.
I don't know how staffs could possibly do this. The only way a KSU mention goes undocumented is because the kid was never asked because the kid wasn't/isn't on anyone's radar because he's not getting looks by anyone worth mentioning.
just ask the recruit not to mention. that part is really easy. the difficult part with the hypothesis is coming up with a motivation.
Also, insidery grumblings here, don't expect any DCA commits anytime soon :blindfold:
The only semi-plausible, positive scenario...
I don't know how staffs could possibly do this. The only way a KSU mention goes undocumented is because the kid was never asked because the kid wasn't/isn't on anyone's radar because he's not getting looks by anyone worth mentioning.
just ask the recruit not to mention. that part is really easy. the difficult part with the hypothesis is coming up with a motivation.
The only semi-plausible, posititve scenrio is that your both correct. We have a commitment/near commitment from sombeody (not sucky) on nobody's radar and we are trying to keep him hidden. Like Mitchell from last year, but we're keeping him under wraps. I find this unlikely, but it's the only plausible hidden recruit theory. I don't think we're recruiting a bunch of current 5-stars and telling them not to mention us. Nothing at all to gain there. If you say the class is Nino, elite DIR Mitchell type, and whatever PG we get out of the guys we are recruiting, you might be able to sleep a little better.
the only plausible hidden recruit theory.
the only plausible hidden recruit theory.
yeah, something like that or a foreign big is probably the most plausible. but even if it was a proverbial silent commit, wouldn't there be mentions from backup plan bigs?
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Are we just in denial? Would it be fair to say that without the influence of Beasley/Huggs, this staff has gotten Gilbert, Awaji, Clemente, Kelly, Irving, Russell, Asprilla, Sprads, Southwell, and Nino? Kind of an underwhelming group overall. Further, would it be fair to say that most of these guys were "late" additions/mentions?
the only plausible hidden recruit theory.
yeah, something like that or a foreign big is probably the most plausible. but even if it was a proverbial silent commit, wouldn't there be mentions from backup plan bigs?
Are we just in denial? Would it be fair to say that without the influence of Beasley/Huggs, this staff has gotten Gilbert, Awaji, Clemente, Kelly, Irving, Russell, Asprilla, Sprads, Southwell, and Nino? Kind of an underwhelming group overall. Further, would it be fair to say that most of these guys were "late" additions/mentions?
At least many were "plan b" recruits. Maybe plan c.
I'd say Sprads/Southwell/Nino were targeted kids though, perhaps that's the route we're going to go now.
I think Southwell was a backup. He seems like a less athletic clone of Mitchell.
Are we just in denial? Would it be fair to say that without the influence of Beasley/Huggs, this staff has gotten Gilbert, Awaji, Clemente, Kelly, Irving, Russell, Asprilla, Sprads, Southwell, and Nino? Kind of an underwhelming group overall. Further, would it be fair to say that most of these guys were "late" additions/mentions?
At least many were "plan b" recruits. Maybe plan c.
I'd say Sprads/Southwell/Nino were targeted kids though, perhaps that's the route we're going to go now.
Are we just in denial? Would it be fair to say that without the influence of Beasley/Huggs, this staff has gotten Gilbert, Awaji, Clemente, Kelly, Irving, Russell, Asprilla, Sprads, Southwell, and Nino? Kind of an underwhelming group overall. Further, would it be fair to say that most of these guys were "late" additions/mentions?
At least many were "plan b" recruits. Maybe plan c.
I'd say Sprads/Southwell/Nino were targeted kids though, perhaps that's the route we're going to go now.
"coach'em up".
that's true, sprads/south/nino wouldn't be "late" guys and were "targeted". which is kind of frightening, actually. "right fit" is a slippery slope. usually means "mediocre" and "coach'em up".
ya'll had a nice little run
that's true, sprads/south/nino wouldn't be "late" guys and were "targeted". which is kind of frightening, actually. "right fit" is a slippery slope. usually means "mediocre" and "coach'em up".
True, it is a caution. I don't think we've reached SLTH recruiting by any means, but it now looks like Top 100-150 kids rather than Top 75 kids as probably the norm, then mix in a few transfers/JUCOs. As long as they can find more Pullens and even Samuels that way, we should be fine, but we'll see.
there are a lot of grumblings that the '11 class is lazy/not very intense. I'm going to tell my self that's why our staff has decided not to recruit any '11s.
It's like LHC Bill Snyder sat Frank down and said "listen, this is how you recruit youngsters...".
there are a lot of grumblings that the '11 class is lazy/not very intense. I'm going to tell my self that's why our staff has decided not to recruit any '11s.
there are a lot of grumblings that the '11 class is lazy/not very intense. I'm going to tell my self that's why our staff has decided not to recruit any '11s.
saw bossi tweet something about that.
there are a lot of grumblings that the '11 class is lazy/not very intense. I'm going to tell my self that's why our staff has decided not to recruit any '11s.
saw bossi tweet something about that.
So did Telep.
if any of you think you can recruit better than Frank and this staff then please, by all means, send Frank an email. he will love to hear from you. it's hilarious that this whole board was clamoring for an extension/raise for frank and his staff just a couple months ago, and now he's got it, and we got him, and all that you can do is bitch. why don't you recruiting gurus out there outline for us real fans exactly the type of player and position, size, etc that this team needs most. when you get done, come back here and check the latest commitments because I will guarantee that Frank and staff will have just gotten done inking that very kid to a scholarship to YOUR Kansas State University.
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff.
Sad.
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff.
Sad.
:confused:
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff.
Sad.
:confused:
qft. Is he saying there's a lot of people irrationally defending the staff here? :dunno:
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff.
Sad.
:confused:
qft. Is he saying there's a lot of people irrationally defending the staff here? :dunno:
Don't think he understands PCs tic posts. PC has a gift for having no decearnable difference between a sarcastic post and a serious one.
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff.
Sad.
:confused:
qft. Is he saying there's a lot of people irrationally defending the staff here? :dunno:
Don't think he understands PCs tic posts. PC has a gift for having no decearnable difference between a sarcastic post and a serious one.
I think it's pretty obvious. :dunno:
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)
Would we rather have this kid, or A-Rod-Trich, or both?
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)
Would we rather have this kid, or A-Rod-Trich, or both?
Ask this question again in August.
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)
Would we rather have this kid, or A-Rod-Trich, or both?
Ask this question again in August.
Sounds like it could be Cats vs Cats.
And I'm counting A-Rod-Trich as pretty much ours.
couple of great, nostalgia-laden pieces featuring kstate recruits and/or players that would have been kstate recruits in happier times. parts even make you wonder about the role michigancat played in the kstate-dca rift.
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20grab%20bag.htm
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20standouts.html
couple of great, nostalgia-laden pieces featuring kstate recruits and/or players that would have been kstate recruits in happier times. parts even make you wonder about the role michigancat played in the kstate-dca rift.
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20grab%20bag.htm
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20standouts.html
couple of great, nostalgia-laden pieces featuring kstate recruits and/or players that would have been kstate recruits in happier times. parts even make you wonder about the role michigancat played in the kstate-dca rift.
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20grab%20bag.htm
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20standouts.html
jesus, knowing shings is a DCA coach again makes me want to punch frank and dalonte in the nuts.
jesus, knowing shings is a DCA coach again makes me want to punch frank and dalonte in the nuts.
never seen r-tricoche play, not even highlights. but he doesn't sound at all like clemente. sounds like a very conventional american-style short, stocky pg.
To all College Basketball fans..if a school gets a PG that doesn't mean they are off my list!! That article was false.
QuoteTo all College Basketball fans..if a school gets a PG that doesn't mean they are off my list!! That article was false.
:surprised: :surprised:
couple of great, nostalgia-laden pieces featuring kstate recruits and/or players that would have been kstate recruits in happier times. parts even make you wonder about the role michigancat played in the kstate-dca rift.
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20grab%20bag.htm
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20standouts.html
jesus, knowing shings is a DCA coach again makes me want to punch frank and dalonte in the nuts.
We should propose an ongoing trade with them for Shings/'Te. Like, every 4 years we swap Chings for Dalonte and vice versa.
never seen r-tricoche play, not even highlights. but he doesn't sound at all like clemente. sounds like a very conventional american-style short, stocky pg.
Have you seen boatright vids?
Mike Rosario?
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/)
Mike Rosario?
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/)
man, oh man. would be fantastic.
“We’re interested in Kansas State. I like him a lot,” Fontan said.
Mike Rosario?
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/)
man, oh man. would be fantastic.Quote“We’re interested in Kansas State. I like him a lot,” Fontan said.
:eek:
http://scorecenter.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=41876
:eek:
Though he was often forced to settle for deep jumpers late in the shot clock when his team needed him to create something, Rosario displayed a great deal of versatility in his scoring repertoire. Capable of hitting shots running off of screens, creating off the bounce, and giving preference to his floater when looking to score inside of 15-feet, Rosario has a certain swagger to his offensive game. Constantly in motion, his consistently high-effort level earned him a number of easy looks around the rim last season, which he converted at a respectable rate. Unfortunately, for every good play he made to get an easy look, he often forced an equally questionable shot on his way to the rim.
his usage is ridiculous which at least in part explains his horrible efficiency. from this, he sounds like clemente, if you told clemente that he needed to shoot every time he touched the ball.QuoteThough he was often forced to settle for deep jumpers late in the shot clock when his team needed him to create something, Rosario displayed a great deal of versatility in his scoring repertoire. Capable of hitting shots running off of screens, creating off the bounce, and giving preference to his floater when looking to score inside of 15-feet, Rosario has a certain swagger to his offensive game. Constantly in motion, his consistently high-effort level earned him a number of easy looks around the rim last season, which he converted at a respectable rate. Unfortunately, for every good play he made to get an easy look, he often forced an equally questionable shot on his way to the rim.
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mike-Rosario-5151/
..so glad you will have Rutgers in your heart, now take a foot up your a**. ..and have fun playing in Europe when all is said and done.
lol, rutgers will always be in his heart..BS
see ya mr. pied-piper..i sure as hell wont miss you
cancer officially removed...it is best for the program...at least there is one happy fan.
Good....we must get rid of this mess down to the very last bit.
Anyone know what Ros'y is doing this Friday? (edit)...........
Anyone know what Ros'y is doing this Friday? (edit)...........
Have you seen boatright vids?
links?
No, but I heard a rumor Boatright will be here last weekend in April
No, but I heard a rumor Boatright will be here last weekend in April
:eek:
No, but I heard a rumor Boatright will be here last weekend in April
:eek:
Jayhawk invitational
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related)
:love: :crossfingers: :love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related)
:love: :crossfingers: :love:
OMG. If we get Rosario I will explode. :runaway:
The University termed the release “conditional,” but there was no confirmation of the Gannett New Jersey report that Rutgers would file tampering charges against Southern California in a move that would prohibit Rosario’s transfer to USC, Florida and Kansas.
that put a damper on my excitement... :sigh:No, but I heard a rumor Boatright will be here last weekend in April
:eek:
Jayhawk invitational
Rosario could reunite with one of those high school teammates, Jio Fontan, at Southern California — another school in the running according to Rosario.:confused:
The guard only spoke with Florida so far, because his transfer did not become official until yesterday, but he did speak with Fontan.
“He told me just how good of a program it is and how beautiful it is out there,” Rosario said. “I’m going to take a look, but right now my focus is on Florida.”
QuoteRosario could reunite with one of those high school teammates, Jio Fontan, at Southern California — another school in the running according to Rosario.
:confused:
everyone is saying it's all but over for florida, btw.
Regarding the previously reported restriction on USC, Kansas and Florida, the source indicated Rutgers has reconsidered in an effort to keep a positive relationship with St. Anthony High School of Jersey City.
everyone is saying it's all but over for florida, btw.
explain
everyone is saying it's all but over for florida, btw.
explain
lots of people expect him to commit to florida this weekend on his visit.
he called the handler, at least.
he called the handler, at least.
pretty sure this staff only directly contacts a recruit as a last gasp act of desperation.
NEW RECRUITING THEORY: KSU has handlers across the country that will surprise their high profile handlees with visits to KSU this fall! :ksu:
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker? Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere. :dunno:
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker? Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere. :dunno:
Beal, Rosario, and ?????
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker? Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere. :dunno:
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker? Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere. :dunno:
beal is rumored to be a really soft commit. most observers think rivers won't recommit.
I hadn't heard Beal was soft.
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker? Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere. :dunno:
Beal, Rosario, and ?????
I'm assuming Rivers re-commits. I think he will.
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker? Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere. :dunno:
Beal, Rosario, and ?????
I'm assuming Rivers re-commits. I think he will.
Oh, I don't think Rivers is going there. Scuttlebutt in Indy was that it was clearly UNC or Duke.
Know Doc Rivers thru some back channels, Austin is going to Duke.
Ridiculous how much insider information we can get on this board, in such a short time, on a guy we are NOT recruiting. :blank:
Ridiculous how much insider information we can get on this board, in such a short time, on a guy we are NOT recruiting. :blank:
The Rivers to Duke scuttlebutt was all over twitter.
(k)rusty just pissed he didn't drop the nuke on the 11 'uiting 'eadRidiculous how much insider information we can get on this board, in such a short time, on a guy we are NOT recruiting. :blank:
The Rivers to Duke scuttlebutt was all over twitter.
not really the point Krusty.
Next season will be Harrison’s last before he departs for a Division I college. He has received scholarship offers from Kansas State, Texas A&M, Arizona State, Arkansas and Oklahoma State among others. At this point, he said, Kansas State and Texas A&M are at the top of his list.
New mention on scout - top 150:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-DeAngelo-Harrison-93728
EDIT: Maybe it's not a new mention:QuoteNext season will be Harrison’s last before he departs for a Division I college. He has received scholarship offers from Kansas State, Texas A&M, Arizona State, Arkansas and Oklahoma State among others. At this point, he said, Kansas State and Texas A&M are at the top of his list.
http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/04/17/fort_bend_sun/sports/sws_-_harrison_poty.txt
Way to work hard KSU beat writers! :ksu:
Right now DeAngelo Harrison for Franchize is lighting up the main arena at ULR. Smooth, compact stroke. Another sniper who can go off drib
Harrison is a lights out spot up wing shooter!
Sounds like we'll stop recruiting since he can shoot, is playing well at AAU tourneys, and didn't keep our recruitment a secret. A guy like that would clearly ruin our locker room.
18 Apr 2010 ... DeAngelo Harrison, SG, Franchize AS: Count us as fans. He dropped 27 first half points in the game we caught. He's not the ideal size for a ...
Quote from: telep teaser18 Apr 2010 ... DeAngelo Harrison, SG, Franchize AS: Count us as fans. He dropped 27 first half points in the game we caught. He's not the ideal size for a ...
Sounds like we'll stop recruiting since he can shoot, is playing well at AAU tourneys, and didn't keep our recruitment a secret. A guy like that would clearly ruin our locker room.
did you see the tweet about how the '11s can all shoot, even though they aren't competitive and are fracking pussies? even martin may have to take a shooter in this class.
<--------- Concerned that with the 'potential' signing of Myles we will not have a scholarship for a big next year.
<--------- Concerned that with the 'potential' signing of Myles we will not have a scholarship for a big next year.
Then we Branderson Nick Russell.
<--------- Concerned that with the 'potential' signing of Myles we will not have a scholarship for a big next year.
Then we Branderson Nick Russell.
Better do it fast before we use that Brandersoned scholarship on a 6'7" JUCO PF in the late signing period.
<--------- Concerned that with the 'potential' signing of Myles we will not have a scholarship for a big next year.
Then we Branderson Nick Russell.
Better do it fast before we use that Brandersoned scholarship on a 6'7" JUCO PF in the late signing period.
A. You can oversign. You kick the players off after you sign the replacements, not before.
B. We don't appear to be recuiting any bigs now anyway, which is more of a concern than having room for one.
A. True, but the powerespect in me hates doing that. It's kind of embarrassing.
I'll get the scoop on this kid.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html)
I'll get the scoop on this kid.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html)
Still the best in the biz
B. We don't appear to be recuiting any bigs now anyway, which is more of a concern than having room for one.
B. We don't appear to be recuiting any bigs now anyway, which is more of a concern than having room for one.
so the assumption has always been a big, a pg and williams for 2011. does harrison indicate maybe that they're looking at 3 perimeter players, no bigs? do they think of him as a combo point? do they think of williams as a big?
Terrific offensive talent. He can score inside and out, run the floor, handle the ball and create his own quality shot in the half court.
Good court vision, seems to see the floor well in transition and in the half court.
Decent rebounder. Very good passer.
Any time I've watched him he hasn't really stood out to me defensively, but he can make plays on the ball (swiping it or playing passing lanes).
Good clutch player too.
Biggest thing to keep an eye on is off the court. He missed a good chunk of his sophomore season because of grade issues. He didn't miss any time this year, so perhaps he has fixed that. I'm not real sure if it'll be an issue going forward.
He's always been quiet any time I've been around him so I'm not sure what kind of attitude he has. He seems to be a good floor leader but I don't know that he's a leader in the true sense of the word. I'm thinking this is the year that we'll find out, because he'll be one of few holdovers on a roster that's going to have a ton of turnover.
He has experience on his side - he has been on varsity since he was a freshman and got significant minutes off the bench that year when Dulles went to the state championship game. So he has logged a lot of meaningful minutes when he has been on the court. If Dulles would have gone further in the playoffs, he would have been on my second team probably. They lost in the second round to the eventual state champs. He'll be a surefire first-team all-city pick next preseason for me. He's without question one of the top talents in this area in general, and especially in the Class of 2011. He was an all-state selection this year.
I just heard from the local guy who's deep into AAU coverage that he had a huge game today (41 points, 12 rebounds, five assists) in the semifinals of the Real Deal on the Hill in Arkansas, which is supposed a pretty high quality tournament. Chief might know this better than I though, where it ranks on the totem pole.
His team is playing in the championship game later today.
One of the best guards in the state. I'm pretty sure he's left handed. Plays at Dulles HS in Fort Bend. About 6-3. Can get to the rack and fill it up just as easily.
Hope that helps.
The ball has been BAD, the play worse and the energy has been sucked out of me. Hope Franchize vs Playground delivers
I don't understand how meek, manbeck, and smelly are getting paid actual money right now. Seems journalists should be on commission or something.
Good stuff here from Sam Khan, who is the Chronicle's lead high school writer - and he's very good:QuoteTerrific offensive talent. He can score inside and out, run the floor, handle the ball and create his own quality shot in the half court.
Good court vision, seems to see the floor well in transition and in the half court.
Decent rebounder. Very good passer.
Any time I've watched him he hasn't really stood out to me defensively, but he can make plays on the ball (swiping it or playing passing lanes).
Good clutch player too.
Biggest thing to keep an eye on is off the court. He missed a good chunk of his sophomore season because of grade issues. He didn't miss any time this year, so perhaps he has fixed that. I'm not real sure if it'll be an issue going forward.
He's always been quiet any time I've been around him so I'm not sure what kind of attitude he has. He seems to be a good floor leader but I don't know that he's a leader in the true sense of the word. I'm thinking this is the year that we'll find out, because he'll be one of few holdovers on a roster that's going to have a ton of turnover.
He has experience on his side - he has been on varsity since he was a freshman and got significant minutes off the bench that year when Dulles went to the state championship game. So he has logged a lot of meaningful minutes when he has been on the court. If Dulles would have gone further in the playoffs, he would have been on my second team probably. They lost in the second round to the eventual state champs. He'll be a surefire first-team all-city pick next preseason for me. He's without question one of the top talents in this area in general, and especially in the Class of 2011. He was an all-state selection this year.
And then this just popped in my in-box from Sam:QuoteI just heard from the local guy who's deep into AAU coverage that he had a huge game today (41 points, 12 rebounds, five assists) in the semifinals of the Real Deal on the Hill in Arkansas, which is supposed a pretty high quality tournament. Chief might know this better than I though, where it ranks on the totem pole.
His team is playing in the championship game later today.
Another guy I work with happens to run an AAU team here in Houston. His name is Chief, and this is what he had to say:QuoteOne of the best guards in the state. I'm pretty sure he's left handed. Plays at Dulles HS in Fort Bend. About 6-3. Can get to the rack and fill it up just as easily.
Hope that helps.
DeAngelo Harrison (Franchize All-Starz 2011)- Harrison absolutely filled it up from deep Sunday morning. He hit three-pointers of the dribble and coming off screens, while also spending a lot of time running the point. Harrison is a high level shooter as a high major prospect.
And evidently Harrison was even better when Rivals.com wasn't watching. In a 10 point loss to the Dallas Mustangs in the championship game, Harrison went for 47 points.
Isiah Jones (Franchize-The Life 2011)- Speaking of high level shooters, Jones was just as impressive from deep as Harrison. A former 2010 prospect out of Chicago. Jones is now at Christian Life Academy as a 2011 prospect.... Isiah Jones did have offers as a 2010 prospect from DePaul, Kansas State, Indiana State and Illinois State. Now that he is reclassifying at Christian Life Academy his recruitment is starting over. He lists those four schools along with Indiana and Louisiana Tech.
we're suddenly listed with this guy:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Wayne-Martin-102054
not sure why. :dunno:
Corey Hilliard is getting to the rim at well for KC Pump N Run 17's, up 9 on Dream Vision near halftime.
QuoteCorey Hilliard is getting to the rim at well for KC Pump N Run 17's, up 9 on Dream Vision near halftime.
hilliard (2011 from raytown) visited kstate this season. has been linked to kstate by such notable sites such as: scout, shockernet, ksufans.com and msubearnation.
2010 guard Isaiah “Hoopy” Jones is still at Mounds Meridian after contrary reports throughout the summer that he was transferring to Carbondale.
Good stuff here from Sam Khan, who is the Chronicle's lead high school writer - and he's very good:QuoteTerrific offensive talent. He can score inside and out, run the floor, handle the ball and create his own quality shot in the half court.
Good court vision, seems to see the floor well in transition and in the half court.
Decent rebounder. Very good passer.
Any time I've watched him he hasn't really stood out to me defensively, but he can make plays on the ball (swiping it or playing passing lanes).
Good clutch player too.
Biggest thing to keep an eye on is off the court. He missed a good chunk of his sophomore season because of grade issues. He didn't miss any time this year, so perhaps he has fixed that. I'm not real sure if it'll be an issue going forward.
He's always been quiet any time I've been around him so I'm not sure what kind of attitude he has. He seems to be a good floor leader but I don't know that he's a leader in the true sense of the word. I'm thinking this is the year that we'll find out, because he'll be one of few holdovers on a roster that's going to have a ton of turnover.
He has experience on his side - he has been on varsity since he was a freshman and got significant minutes off the bench that year when Dulles went to the state championship game. So he has logged a lot of meaningful minutes when he has been on the court. If Dulles would have gone further in the playoffs, he would have been on my second team probably. They lost in the second round to the eventual state champs. He'll be a surefire first-team all-city pick next preseason for me. He's without question one of the top talents in this area in general, and especially in the Class of 2011. He was an all-state selection this year.
And then this just popped in my in-box from Sam:QuoteI just heard from the local guy who's deep into AAU coverage that he had a huge game today (41 points, 12 rebounds, five assists) in the semifinals of the Real Deal on the Hill in Arkansas, which is supposed a pretty high quality tournament. Chief might know this better than I though, where it ranks on the totem pole.
His team is playing in the championship game later today.
Another guy I work with happens to run an AAU team here in Houston. His name is Chief, and this is what he had to say:QuoteOne of the best guards in the state. I'm pretty sure he's left handed. Plays at Dulles HS in Fort Bend. About 6-3. Can get to the rack and fill it up just as easily.
Hope that helps.
WONDERFUL work. Ironic that he probably played his way out of KSU's hands the same day KSU fans discovered his interest in KSU.
I'm told he's "wide open."
As a side note, he's supposed to be picking up another offer soon. Marquette will be jumping into the fray with an offer as early as tomorrow.
Random non-paid posters (I'm counting Jeff in this) on a free-non-media-affiliated message board are KSU's primary source of basketball recruiting news. Is this weird or does this happen for other major conference fan bases?
Random non-paid posters (I'm counting Jeff in this) on a free-non-media-affiliated message board are KSU's primary source of basketball recruiting news. Is this weird or does this happen for other major conference fan bases?
As usual, Michigancat on point... From Sam Khan:QuoteI'm told he's "wide open."
As a side note, he's supposed to be picking up another offer soon. Marquette will be jumping into the fray with an offer as early as tomorrow.
http://www.rcssports.com/
http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Dre-Harrison-77052;_ylt=AlDr9g7T3KgZYBM8JOEWU1nfS5B4?colleges=show#college_choices
Hilliard is the point guard who runs the show, and gets things done. The Dream Vision guards had absolutely no chance to stop Hilliard from getting into the lane and either scoring or dishing to a teammate such as Kirk. Hilliard finished the game with 11 points, and simply controlled every aspect of the action.... Corey Hilliard has an offer from Missouri State and interest from Kansas State, Minnesota, Arizona State, and Missouri.
Though the KC Pump N Run 15's fell in the semi-finals, Conner Frankamp had nothing to be ashamed of. The point guard has a lot of flair to his game, and the handle he possesses is at a very high level. Just when defenders play off of him in an attempt to keep him in front, Frankamp showed the ability to knock in a deep jumper. Overall he looks the part of a potential high-major guard down the road.
Get ready to hear the name Chris Thomas. The Colorado native now attends school at Princeton Day Academy in Bowie, Maryland. The little known 6-foot-4 wing asserted himself as one of the premier players in his class with his play over the weekend. Even though his Colorado Hawks team was completely outmanned by Indiana Elite at the 16 and under level, Thomas is a 2013 star who made an impact and even kept the game relatively close for a long period of time.
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?highlight=wichita&CID=1076021
a few vaguely kstate items. think it's free.
on thomas, he used to be listed as a 2012. can't find anything to connect him to kstate. the hawks seem like a pretty amateur organization, but perhaps are coming up in the ranks.QuoteHilliard is the point guard who runs the show, and gets things done. The Dream Vision guards had absolutely no chance to stop Hilliard from getting into the lane and either scoring or dishing to a teammate such as Kirk. Hilliard finished the game with 11 points, and simply controlled every aspect of the action.... Corey Hilliard has an offer from Missouri State and interest from Kansas State, Minnesota, Arizona State, and Missouri.
Though the KC Pump N Run 15's fell in the semi-finals, Conner Frankamp had nothing to be ashamed of. The point guard has a lot of flair to his game, and the handle he possesses is at a very high level. Just when defenders play off of him in an attempt to keep him in front, Frankamp showed the ability to knock in a deep jumper. Overall he looks the part of a potential high-major guard down the road.
Get ready to hear the name Chris Thomas. The Colorado native now attends school at Princeton Day Academy in Bowie, Maryland. The little known 6-foot-4 wing asserted himself as one of the premier players in his class with his play over the weekend. Even though his Colorado Hawks team was completely outmanned by Indiana Elite at the 16 and under level, Thomas is a 2013 star who made an impact and even kept the game relatively close for a long period of time.
I pretty much assume all 13's (or even 12's) that we're hearing about now are guys we have no shot at unless they are local guys KU doesn't want.
It's like a nice warm blanket. But kind of hilarious that the "keep everything under wraps" theory that sys pushed might have some truth and even more hilarious that this staff thinks in this environment that they're going to get a kid worth a sh*t that no one knows about. If the kid is good and blows up people are going to notice and we're going to get put in the back of the bus.
I pretty much assume all 13's (or even 12's) that we're hearing about now are guys we have no shot at unless they are local guys KU doesn't want.
:concerned: that doesn't seem like you...
It's like a nice warm blanket. But kind of hilarious that the "keep everything under wraps" theory that sys pushed might have some truth and even more hilarious that this staff thinks in this environment that they're going to get a kid worth a sh*t that no one knows about. If the kid is good and blows up people are going to notice and we're going to get put in the back of the bus.
the only way it makes sense is to keep programs like KU's (and prolly Baylor's) from trying to blow up your recruiting. if the rumors about Walker, Sutton and Little's recruitment are true then it's a smart move.
Just heard that DeAngelo Harrison is scheduled to be visited this week by an undisclosed Big Ten coach, who is rumored to be prepared to offer him. Word is, he was set to offer him before he set a scoring record and led his team to the 17u championship.
Anything is possible for him because he has real skill and has good athleticism. Question for me is, can he shun all the "rec-center mentality" that he shows in the summer, and really learn the PG position? Cannot properly evaluate that from where I or any other observer sits.
Some can and some can't. The rec centers in major metropolitan areas around this country are littered with stellar ball players who simply couldn't find a way to compete at a high level of organized ball. If I had to guess, he'll probably end up an undersized 2 at the next level unless he plays in a dribble-weave, motion-type offensive system.
if the rumors about Walker, Sutton and Little's recruitment are true then it's a smart move.
dre harrison was a nonqualifier, no? so he's an '11 too.
deangelo harrison looks like an impressive player, and would be a nice get. don't think he's good enough to take his less talented, same size, same position brother in a class with 3 ships.
B. We don't appear to be recuiting any bigs now anyway, which is more of a concern than having room for one.
so the assumption has always been a big, a pg and williams for 2011. does harrison indicate maybe that they're looking at 3 perimeter players, no bigs? do they think of him as a combo point? do they think of williams as a big?
DeAngelo Harrison Franchize All-Stars, 2011 shooting guard
Yes, Harrison probably isn't a point guard. And yes, he probably is a little undersized as a high-major shooting guard prospect. Regardless, this combo guard might just be the best shooter in the 2011 class - at least it looked that way in Little Rock. Harrison knocked down five 3-pointers in a row in the semifinals and then scored 47 points in the final.
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.
Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS. He's also 3" shorter. This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).
Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.
Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS. He's also 3" shorter. This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).
Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.
That is crazy. I figured Pullen would be considered a good shooter especially after he broke Provisos record for 3 pointers made in a game
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.
Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS. He's also 3" shorter. This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).
Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.
That is crazy. I figured Pullen would be considered a good shooter especially after he broke Provisos record for 3 pointers made in a game
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
PG Boatright 4-star #69
SG Harrison 3-star #118
SF Williams 3-star UR
PF Gipson 3-star #111
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.
Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS. He's also 3" shorter. This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).
Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.
Over/under that the class is at least this good?
PG Boatright 4-star #69
SG Harrison 3-star #118
SF Williams 3-star UR
PF Gipson 3-star #111
Right now thinking under :cry: , but trying to be optimistic. (this is considerably worse than i was expecting a year ago)
PG Boatright 4-star #69
SG Harrison 3-star #118
SF Williams 3-star UR
PF Gipson 3-star #111
it'll be better, but just 3 players.
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.
Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS. He's also 3" shorter. This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).
Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.
Sounds a lot like Royce Woolridge, but Woolridge is simply "garbage" according to you because of his 3-star status. Hypocrite.
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
If we were lucky enough to get a visit (we won't be) we better f'ing have that Beasley jersey up in the rafters by the time he gets here :curse:
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright? Not that Cal was ever going to fall far enough down his list to actually offer Boatright.
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright? Not that Cal was ever going to fall far enough down his list to actually offer Boatright.
Would we take Rodriguez-Trioche and Boatright? Can we trade one for a quality big?
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright? Not that Cal was ever going to fall far enough down his list to actually offer Boatright.
Would we take Rodriguez-Trioche and Boatright? Can we trade one for a quality big?
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?
I don't think so. Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?
I don't think so. Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.
K-State beat out FSU for Russell, if I remember correctly.
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?
I don't think so. Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?
I don't think so. Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.
K-State beat out FSU for Russell, if I remember correctly.
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona. :frown: Not feeling good.
sounds like teague to uk. unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?
I don't think so. Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.
K-State beat out FSU for Russell, if I remember correctly.
While I realize they aren't always accurate, these are the notables we supposedly beat out (offers) in our last couple of classes:
Southwell: Marquette, Providence, South Carolina, St John's, S Carolina, Xavier.
Sprads: UNLV
Asprilla: Marquette, Memphis, Miami FL
Myles: OU, NU, GW
JHR: Rhode Island, St Johns, (visited both), DePaul, Kentucky, Missouri, Seton Hall, UNLV, Xavier.
Irving: Georgia, Creighton, S Florida, St. Louis (bunch of other mid/low majors).
Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.
Judge and McGruds a bunch of high majors, but DCA.
I don't think you do.
Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.
And Nino has always been 11, until recently finding out he may have to move it up.
I don't think you do.Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.
:users:
I don't think you do.Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.
:users:
I question that, along w/ UCLA and OU offers. You don't get legit offers from UCLA, OU, and FSU and visit SMU, Tech, and Iowa.
Forsett said Russell isn’t waiting to see what shakes out with UCLA. That’s not to say he isn’t interested, but his heart isn’t set on a visit to Cali. UCLA has already come in for an in-home visit. Speaking of which, K-State almost brought the whole staff on its visit. Matt Figger, the lead guy, and Dalonte Hill were there, and Frank Martin also tagged along. “It was a great visit,” he said.
I don't think you do.Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.
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I question that, along w/ UCLA and OU offers. You don't get legit offers from UCLA, OU, and FSU and visit SMU, Tech, and Iowa.QuoteForsett said Russell isn’t waiting to see what shakes out with UCLA. That’s not to say he isn’t interested, but his heart isn’t set on a visit to Cali. UCLA has already come in for an in-home visit. Speaking of which, K-State almost brought the whole staff on its visit. Matt Figger, the lead guy, and Dalonte Hill were there, and Frank Martin also tagged along. “It was a great visit,” he said.
Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/10/01/nick-russell/#ixzz0lqEjTpsJ
FACE michigan cat, FACE
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database. better than nothing.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321
suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.
Sorry you werent entertained, that hurts deeply.
we got some hurt feelin's up in this threadSorry you werent entertained, that hurts deeply.
it was a great job of digging up the names. it's just that the names suck. which in a way makes them more impressive finds, if you're looking for board cred.
Sorry you werent entertained, that hurts deeply.
it was a great job of digging up the names. it's just that the names suck. which in a way makes them more impressive finds, if you're looking for board cred.
I stalk Angel Rodriguez daily on FB and he never says anything about us, kinda bugs me. That and I cant read 75% of what he is saying because its spanish.
He said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.
harrison update from texashoops.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076843QuoteHe said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.
harrison update from texashoops.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076843QuoteHe said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.
Jesus. Epic :facepalm: (or we told him to shut his damn mouth when we recruit him).
harrison update from texashoops.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076843QuoteHe said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.
Jesus. Epic :facepalm: (or we told him to shut his damn mouth when we recruit him).
:dunno:
harrison update from texashoops.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076843QuoteHe said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.
Jesus. Epic :facepalm: (or we told him to shut his damn mouth when we recruit him).
:dunno:
A&m and OSU had already shown interest before the tournament.
Frank to staff: So, um, you guys going to recruit this week
Staff: No, we're good (throws another cheeto in mouth and wipes hands on sweatpants while turning up the volume on cartoon network)
PERRY ELLIS! PITINO AND CAL WERE THERE! :ksu:
:blank:
Frank to staff: So, um, you guys going to recruit this week
Staff: No, we're good (throws another cheeto in mouth and wipes hands on sweatpants while turning up the volume on cartoon network)
PERRY ELLIS! PITINO AND CAL WERE THERE! :ksu:
:blank:
But the real story of the Teague commitment is the stone cold kick to the gut for Louisville and Rick Pitino. Make no mistake, this is one of, if not THE, worst recruiting losses in history for UL. Rick Pitino spent TWO YEARS recruiting Teague and building a relationship with the young man that was as tight as you see in recruiting circles. (http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=50128)
the real story of the Teague commitment is the stone cold kick to the gut for Louisville and Rick Pitino. Make no mistake, this is one of, if not THE, worst recruiting losses in history for UL.
Tlked to guerrero via fb- he said he would keep kstate in his mind..
Frank to staff: So, um, you guys going to recruit this weekyour visuals are fantastic. always make me lol.
Staff: No, we're good (throws another cheeto in mouth and wipes hands on sweatpants while turning up the volume on cartoon network)
Did anyone recruit leawoodcat when the exodus happened? :dunno:
I havent seen Boatright play. But idc I want Cezar Guerrero on my team. He's not being recruited as hard as you would expect because of transfer isssues, and a broken collar bone this past summer. So he didnt get to compete during the summer. I fully expect him to be a minimum 4 star. Go get'em frank.Tlked to guerrero via fb- he said he would keep kstate in his mind..
great. now talk to our staff.
BTW, Guerrero plays like I expected Boatright to play. (style wise)
I could watch Team Texas' Thomas Gipson play all day. Strong, tough 6-6 ass kicker in the lane.
If you are looking for a big guy in the class of 2012, you are in luck. '12 is LOADED with bigs of all levels.
Going against Larkin was Ryan Boatright. The Chicago point man has a lot of flash to his game, and is ultra quick with the ball. Boatright didn't start the game, and it took him a little while to find his rhythm, but he was solid overall. His handle is very impressive, and also he has a great looking shot. He still needs to do more to set up his teammates, but Boatright kept D-Rose in the game with his play.
Cliffs' notes are: Nino is starting to take his game to another level, starting to knock down 3's consistently along with dominating in the paint. Sounds like he may attend Brewster Academy, a prep school in New Hampshire next year. By my count, Brewster had no less than 7 DI signees on their team this year.
QuoteCliffs' notes are: Nino is starting to take his game to another level, starting to knock down 3's consistently along with dominating in the paint. Sounds like he may attend Brewster Academy, a prep school in New Hampshire next year. By my count, Brewster had no less than 7 DI signees on their team this year.
The have Perry Ellis only listed at 6'7". Said he's really working on his perimeter game and starting to show improvement in that area.
Willie Cauley is legit 6'10" to go along w/really long arms. Due to that length, is really a presence on D. Needs bulk, but runs floor very well and is deserving of high-major interest he's receiving.
Semi Ojeleye(Vic's younger brother), is 6'5". Plays hard and really gets after it on O glass. Already an outstanding passer, has good looking shot and can also handle the ball
Other cruits mentionedQuoteThe have Perry Ellis only listed at 6'7". Said he's really working on his perimeter game and starting to show improvement in that area.
Willie Cauley is legit 6'10" to go along w/really long arms. Due to that length, is really a presence on D. Needs bulk, but runs floor very well and is deserving of high-major interest he's receiving.
Semi Ojeleye(Vic's younger brother), is 6'5". Plays hard and really gets after it on O glass. Already an outstanding passer, has good looking shot and can also handle the ball
Other cruits mentionedQuoteThe have Perry Ellis only listed at 6'7". Said he's really working on his perimeter game and starting to show improvement in that area.
Willie Cauley is legit 6'10" to go along w/really long arms. Due to that length, is really a presence on D. Needs bulk, but runs floor very well and is deserving of high-major interest he's receiving.
Semi Ojeleye(Vic's younger brother), is 6'5". Plays hard and really gets after it on O glass. Already an outstanding passer, has good looking shot and can also handle the ball
where is this from?
QuoteCliffs' notes are: Nino is starting to take his game to another level, starting to knock down 3's consistently along with dominating in the paint. Sounds like he may attend Brewster Academy, a prep school in New Hampshire next year. By my count, Brewster had no less than 7 DI signees on their team this year.
I probably talk more sh*t about our staff's recruiting than anyone, but it seems like most guys they offer early end up a lot better than they seem initially.
I probably talk more sh*t about our staff's recruiting than anyone, but it seems like most guys they offer early end up a lot better than they seem initially.
with williams, you were just being stubborn. it was obvious he has a high major body and decent skills.
I tend to trust the early offers regardless of rating. (even Spradling) The later (fall) offers always seems suspect. Late period (Spring) offers are putrid (D1 transfers aside).
2011 is not a tremendously strong overall PG class in terms of depth. That's why guys are flying of the board quickly.
Kadeem Jack was set to announce his college choice Wednesday on SNY.tv, but instead appears headed to prep school, possibly South Kent (Conn).
opportunity.QuoteKadeem Jack was set to announce his college choice Wednesday on SNY.tv, but instead appears headed to prep school, possibly South Kent (Conn).
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/27/kadeem-jack-to-prep-school/
http://austinrichie.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y06AvC3LzZI
http://austinrichie.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y06AvC3LzZI
kstate's elite 8 obviously meant the same thing to martin that maryland's championship meant to williams.
presumably just that he got a kstate listing on rivals.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/illinois/basketball/recruiting/player-Austin-Richie-108040
Cook named leaders. Did we make the cut? :ohno:
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Cook named leaders. Did we make the cut? :ohno:
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Notre Dame, Villanova, UCLA, Kansas State, Virginia, Georgetown, Tennessee, Florida State, Wake Forest, Arizona, Indiana, Connecticut and Washington are all under consideration. Each program has committed itself with a scholarship offer. Kentucky, Duke and North Carolina are involved as well.
"It's not a closed list," Cook said.
Cook named leaders. Did we make the cut? :ohno:
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Only "for sure" visits are to Wildcats!
:ksu:
Cook named leaders. Did we make the cut? :ohno:
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Only "for sure" visits are to Wildcats!
:ksu:
AZ and KY so as not to tease anyone
could we make the elite 8 twice in one year. :crossfingers:
top yla poat?could we make the elite 8 twice in one year. :crossfingers:
lol
Gauchos stuff
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/29/rices-hicks-jack-weighing-options/
Yet because of a new NCAA rule, if Hicks were to join St. John’s in that capacity, the program could not recruit any players from Rice or the Gauchos AAU program for the next two years.
the whole jack to prep thing makes no sense. no angle.
Cook named leaders. Did we make the cut? :ohno:
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Yeah, we made his final 16 (or more)QuoteNotre Dame, Villanova, UCLA, Kansas State, Virginia, Georgetown, Tennessee, Florida State, Wake Forest, Arizona, Indiana, Connecticut and Washington are all under consideration. Each program has committed itself with a scholarship offer. Kentucky, Duke and North Carolina are involved as well.Quote"It's not a closed list," Cook said.
I didn't like this movie the first time I saw it, when it was called Wesley Witherspoon.
the whole jack to prep thing makes no sense. no angle.
grades?
the whole jack to prep thing makes no sense. no angle.
grades?
he's qualified. unless people have been lied to, or something.
he thinks he's better than the schools that have offerred and wants an elite school (like KSU) to come calling when they have room next year?
thank god the prep system has finally allowed more deserving young men to fufill their EMAW apirations :kstatriot:yup, he's definitely coming KAZZU's way via prep
plus it seems much more socially acceptable than the jc route :blindfold:
KAZZU
Nino Williams really gets to the foul line for Mo-Kan... Tough and athletic wing.
anthony davis getting lots of attention from telep and snow.
no mention. just pullen/meanstreets, tai streets in mhk, i'm desperate.
eric bossi podcast on 810. talks about williams, kstate 2010 class, perry ellis. it's ok. also mentions beal possibly opening up (for people that care about other team's recruiting).Who would Beal consider if he did re-open.
eric bossi podcast on 810. talks about williams, kstate 2010 class, perry ellis. it's ok. also mentions beal possibly opening up (for people that care about other team's recruiting).Who would Beal consider if he did re-open.
ON ITeric bossi podcast on 810. talks about williams, kstate 2010 class, perry ellis. it's ok. also mentions beal possibly opening up (for people that care about other team's recruiting).Who would Beal consider if he did re-open.
freak42, I think it's your job to find out.
probably not going to be eligible. maybe juco or prep.
same story with mclemore?
probably not going to be eligible. maybe juco or prep.
same story with mclemore?
probably not going to be eligible. maybe juco or prep.
same story with mclemore?
McLemore is going to Oak Hill Academy, so he'll be eligible most likely after his senior season. At this point, most schools have backed off because KU is considered such a heavy favorite. Georgetown is the only other school that has really given him much attention lately.
McLemore is going to Oak Hill Academy, so he'll be eligible most likely after his senior season. At this point, most schools have backed off because KU is considered such a heavy favorite. Georgetown is the only other school that has really given him much attention lately.
Do you have any idea how stupid this sounds?
• Class of 2011 Kansas State commit Nino Williams (Lansing, Kan./Leavenworth) is a rim-attacker for Spiece Mo-Kan. His body is college-ready and he finishes through contact on slashes and post-ups. Williams also sprints through block-outs for offensive rebounds.
Quote• Class of 2011 Kansas State commit Nino Williams (Lansing, Kan./Leavenworth) is a rim-attacker for Spiece Mo-Kan. His body is college-ready and he finishes through contact on slashes and post-ups. Williams also sprints through block-outs for offensive rebounds.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5157644
Quote• Class of 2011 Kansas State commit Nino Williams (Lansing, Kan./Leavenworth) is a rim-attacker for Spiece Mo-Kan. His body is college-ready and he finishes through contact on slashes and post-ups. Williams also sprints through block-outs for offensive rebounds.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5157644
I'm pretty sure that the David Hoskins comparisons are dead on.
Kadeem Jack just sent the same text to 40 media outlets... He committed to prep school over Arizona, Arkansas, Miami-FL, and UConn.
QuoteKadeem Jack just sent the same text to 40 media outlets... He committed to prep school over Arizona, Arkansas, Miami-FL, and UConn.
QuoteKadeem Jack just sent the same text to 40 media outlets... He committed to prep school over Arizona, Arkansas, Miami-FL, and UConn.
Nino Williams/6-foot-6/WG from Spiece Mo-Kan is cut up like a Roman Soldier! Explosive like TNT!
He added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”
definitive proof that kstate is now recruiting jack and has prohibited him from mentioning kstate publicly.QuoteHe added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”
http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/04/jack-headed-to-prep-school.aspx
like this:QuoteNino Williams/6-foot-6/WG from Spiece Mo-Kan is cut up like a Roman Soldier! Explosive like TNT!
confirmation that a kstate coach has left the state of ks on a recruiting trip. rodriguez and two other miami names, holton and perkins.
http://www.floridahoops.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=55&func=view&id=8241&catid=3
http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Darius-Perkins-70974#latest_news
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holton-89231
Nice find sys. Anyone kind of worried that we are sending Dalonte to Florida? Like, have we just given up out east?
Nice find sys. Anyone kind of worried that we are sending Dalonte to Florida? Like, have we just given up out east?
he's gotta do something, right?
K-State fans will be interested to watch Spiece MoKan's Nino Williams, a 2011 commit who is drawing positive reviews on the circuit.
"He's always been an extremely physical and aggressive kid," Suther said. "He's really shooting the ball better. He shot close to 50 percent from the 3-point line last weekend.
"The other deficiency with his game was his ballhandling. He's working on that on a daily basis. Now he's able to put it on the floor create of the dribble."
There was some thought that Williams could join K-State in 2010, but it looks like he'll go the prep school route. (K-State just filled its final scholarship with juco point guard Juevol Myles.)
"(Prep school) is the plan," Suther said. "We're still waiting to hear back from the NCAA Clearinghouse on where he's at."
Suther said Williams is looking at a couple East Coast prep schools, including Brewster Academy in New Hampshire.
D'Angelo Harrison (2011 Franchize All Stars)- Perhaps no player in the class has done more to raise his stock this spring than Harrison. After tearing it up at the Real Deal in the Rock last month, Harrison's recruitment took off. The shooting guard now has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, SMU and UTEP. Memphis is also showing interest.
Oddly enough, Harrison's top three schools of Texas A&M, Kansas State and Houston have not offered.
In a variety of ways, Harrison scored 32 points in his team's win. He drained three-pointers, scored off the dribble and repeatedly got to the free throw line. Solid and composed with the basketball, Harrison has a crafty pace to his game as a scorer.
what the hell are we doing? offer this kid already! :runaway:
what the hell are we doing? offer this kid already! :runaway:
on vacation. :gocho:
Frank, Figs and Undy are still evaluating the kids locker room "fit" factor . . . very important, takes time.
out of 2009, 2010, 2011 commits (including mitchell), did any prominently mention kstate to the media more than a month or so prior to committing? can't think of any, but i don't really recall the 2009s so well. asprilla's handler did, of course, but handlers don't count.
pretty sure spradling did. Judge mentioned KSU pretty early in the process, but some of his late summer updates didn't and I pretty much assumed we lost him. His and McGruder's commitments basically came out of nowhere.
K-State hosted its first ever Elite Camp, an event that allows the coaches to see some of the top prospects from the area as well as some from across the country they hope to lure to play in their program. The camp was limited to players entering the ninth through 12th grades in the fall of 2007 and is especially recommended for those who are college-bound.
"Having an Elite Camp is extremely beneficial when you can have that caliber of players come in and you actually put them through a practice session similar to what we put our players through," the coach said. "It gives those guys a chance to see what we do with our guys and our teaching points. At the end of the day, recruiting is about building relationships, and any time you can spend time with guys you'd like to recruit or are recruiting, it is either going to strengthen that relationship or just help you understand if players are right for you and vice versa."
Martin also talked about the skill level of the players they had in the camp.
"Tremendous. Tremendous. I believe we had 42 young men. I could be wrong by one or two, but when we broke camp I'm pretty sure that was about the number. That's where we wanted it at. There were some high level players there, some high level players, and the kind of guys that if you get will help us win a lot of Big 12 games."
CAMP STANDOUTS
Florida Rams president Matt Ramker said there were six players who showed their skills as some of the tops in the camp.
"Our three from here (Kenny Kadji, Ray Shipman and Dago Pena), Marcus Denmon and Travis Releford from Kansas City and Terrence Boyd from Norman kind of separated themselves from the others on the court. They were playing at a high level throughout the weekend."
MORE PARTICIPANTS
The list of all participants is not available but several other prospects' names have been identified as making their way to Manhattan. Shawnee Mission South point guard Will Spradling was one of the participants. The 6-foot-1 point guard is one of Kansas City's better prospects from the upcoming sophomore class.
Bishop Miege sophomore-to-be Justin McCay, who played this season as a freshman for the Stags, was there as were three of his teammates. McCay's freshman classmate Trevor Releford was in attendance. A fourth member of the Stags, Willie Reed, was at the Elite Camp, but the 6-foot-9 center committed to play for St. Louis University on Tuesday.
Two other Kansas players in attendance were Wichita Southeast guard and 2008 prospect Jordan Cyphers and Abilene, Kan., guard and 2010 recruit Curry Sexton.
FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT
Sexton was able to watch most of the 2007-08 K-State team scrimmage while he was in Manhattan as the players scrimmaged Saturday night at Bramlage Coliseum.
"We got to watch the current team scrimmage," Sexton said. "They had some impressive plays and players. Michael Beasley was hitting everything he threw up. He is going to be very good next year.
"The guy that really impressed me was Dominique Sutton. I had heard he was pretty good, but I didn't know he was that good. It didn't matter who was on him or where he was. He would go around them and score or he could shoot outside and make it. Like I said, I didn't know he was that good."
BIG IMPROVEMENT
Sexton was also impressed by Kadji during the camp sessions.
"I was at the game when (Kadji) came to Bramlage with his team to play Beasley's team," he said. "From what I saw that day to what I saw this weekend, he has made a lot of improvement.
"He was a good player and you could tell he had ability earlier, but he was just a better player this weekend than he was then."
A FAMILIAR SOUND
Pena and Martin both speak fluent Spanish, a fact that allowed the 6-foot-6 forward to hit it off well with the Wildcat coach.
"I think Dago really felt good being able to talk in Spanish with Frank," Ramker said. "They were talking all weekend to each other and laughing. It was good for Dago to get to do that."
definitive proof that kstate is now recruiting jack and has prohibited him from mentioning kstate publicly.QuoteHe added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”
http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/04/jack-headed-to-prep-school.aspx
definitive proof that kstate is now recruiting jack and has prohibited him from mentioning kstate publicly.QuoteHe added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”
http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/04/jack-headed-to-prep-school.aspx
lols
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/08/jack-to-visit-carolina-kentucky/
Steve Lavin's smartest hire at StJ was Rice HS coach Maurice Hicks. I'll bet Hicks is the highest paid director of bkb operations in the US.
wonder if Jack wants to stay at home to play college ball
wonder if Jack wants to stay at home to play college ball
sju couldn't take him, if he did. the chalmers rule passed earlier this year.
wonder if Jack wants to stay at home to play college ball
sju couldn't take him, if he did. the chalmers rule passed earlier this year.
I'll admit, I wondered at first if the prep school thing was a loophole around this rule. I don't think it would work though.
definitive proof that kstate is now recruiting jack and has prohibited him from mentioning kstate publicly.QuoteHe added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”
http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/04/jack-headed-to-prep-school.aspx
lols
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/08/jack-to-visit-carolina-kentucky/
hey underdog wildcat, register here. even if you don't want to post you can send me pms with scout premium info. and you can be included on recruiting pms from here.
do it.
:love:
pm = personal message.
The whole PM really does mystify me though, does it just pop up on the screen like an IM?
Hey, underdog wildcat, you have x messages, y are new.
D'Angelo Harrison
Franchize All Stars, 2011 shooting guard
Harrison is the epitome of a shot maker. A pure shooter, Harrison has deep range and can also score off the dribble inside the arc. Top all that off with a penchant for getting to the free-throw line. The rest of his game is solid, but his scoring ability is exceptional.
Harrison has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, SMU and UTEP, but Texas A&M, Kansas State and Houston are his top three schools.
QuoteD'Angelo Harrison
Franchize All Stars, 2011 shooting guard
Harrison is the epitome of a shot maker. A pure shooter, Harrison has deep range and can also score off the dribble inside the arc. Top all that off with a penchant for getting to the free-throw line. The rest of his game is solid, but his scoring ability is exceptional.
Harrison has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, SMU and UTEP, but Texas A&M, Kansas State and Houston are his top three schools.
is harrison emaw enough to force the staff to offer, despite his obvious lack of fit?
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1083243
QuoteD'Angelo Harrison
Franchize All Stars, 2011 shooting guard
Harrison is the epitome of a shot maker. A pure shooter, Harrison has deep range and can also score off the dribble inside the arc. Top all that off with a penchant for getting to the free-throw line. The rest of his game is solid, but his scoring ability is exceptional.
Harrison has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, SMU and UTEP, but Texas A&M, Kansas State and Houston are his top three schools.
is harrison emaw enough to force the staff to offer, despite his obvious lack of fit?
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1083243
BRIEF Harrison highlights linked below. Can't really tell a whole lot, but it looks like he has a really smooth jumper and shoots it with plenty of range. This kid is quickly moving atop my wish list for '11, go ahead and offer him already.
Harrison is #45 in white.
http://www.myhoustons55.com/_Basketball-FB-Bush-v-Dulles/video/944523/38668.html
I thought he looked like an extremely unathletic Fred Brown type.
:dunno:
Harrison is drawing college attention from numerous programs and when asked which schools were recruiting him the hardest rattled off a list that included Virginia, Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Marquette, Baylor, Alabama, Auburn, Memphis and Wichita State.
honestly, if he'd have included kstate among the schools recruiting him the hardest, you'd have to suspect him of lying. kstate doesn't recruit anyone the hardest.
QuoteHarrison is drawing college attention from numerous programs and when asked which schools were recruiting him the hardest rattled off a list that included Virginia, Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Marquette, Baylor, Alabama, Auburn, Memphis and Wichita State.
not free.
honestly, if he'd have included kstate among the schools recruiting him the hardest, you'd have to suspect him of lying. kstate doesn't recruit anyone the hardest.
Oh yeah this staff wants to keep everything on the DL . . . so much so not even the kid himself knows this staff is recruiting him.
Ryan Boatright
Year: Junior
Position: PG
Hometown: Aurora, IL
College: Undecided; Boatright de-committed from USC after the Tim Floyd fiasco. He had committed to USC in eighth grade.
Team-given lookalike: Tiger Woods
Team-given lookalike rating: 3 of 10. Boatright is nice kid with some nice dreams; Tiger Woods is an orange pornstar-slaying herb that just happens to be a golf prodigy. Boatright is a real person; Tiger is manufactured by Nike.
Bio: Charismatic on and off the court, Boatright finished second in the tournament in scoring at 19.6 ppg. Boat did much of his damage on fearless forays to the rim and bailout threes. He has a nice knack for the “oh snap, my team needs me to score right now or we’ll be in trouble” bucket. With the right coaching, the sky is the limit for Boat at a big-time program.
Quirk: Due to issues breathing out of his nose, Boat’s the only kid we’ve met who can go for 25 and 5 while consistently looking like he’s about to faint.
So are we officially funneling kids to Anthony Grant?
Following up on Luke Winn's recommedation that we recruit P.R. native Carmelo Betancourt, I did some digging and came up with a couple nuggets regarding him and fellow PR native Rasham Suarez. No, they're not as cool as sys' stat finds but it does give some insight on what types of players they are. Montrose and St Benedict's are both national-level, highly visible programs, will be interesting to see if either ends up at 1 of those programs and how it will affect their recruitment.
We are listed on Suarez's Rivals profile and he mentioned us as recruiting him in a Scout update, but it doesn't appear we are heavily pursuing at this time, but you know our staff ...
http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/suarez-update.html
http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/betancourt-to-montrose-or-st-benedicts.html
I was down in PR this year looking at a couple of kids and to be honest the style of play and lack of size made it hard for me to see if the kids could really play. Very few of these kids really know or want to play defense and the transition game doesn't exist", said a D1 coach.
Following up on Luke Winn's recommedation that we recruit P.R. native Carmelo Betancourt, I did some digging and came up with a couple nuggets regarding him and fellow PR native Rasham Suarez. No, they're not as cool as sys' stat finds but it does give some insight on what types of players they are. Montrose and St Benedict's are both national-level, highly visible programs, will be interesting to see if either ends up at 1 of those programs and how it will affect their recruitment.
We are listed on Suarez's Rivals profile and he mentioned us as recruiting him in a Scout update, but it doesn't appear we are heavily pursuing at this time, but you know our staff ...
http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/suarez-update.html
http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/betancourt-to-montrose-or-st-benedicts.html
Good work.
Could this be Frank? :dunno:QuoteI was down in PR this year looking at a couple of kids and to be honest the style of play and lack of size made it hard for me to see if the kids could really play. Very few of these kids really know or want to play defense and the transition game doesn't exist", said a D1 coach.
Following up on Luke Winn's recommedation that we recruit P.R. native Carmelo Betancourt, I did some digging and came up with a couple nuggets regarding him and fellow PR native Rasham Suarez. No, they're not as cool as sys' stat finds but it does give some insight on what types of players they are. Montrose and St Benedict's are both national-level, highly visible programs, will be interesting to see if either ends up at 1 of those programs and how it will affect their recruitment.
We are listed on Suarez's Rivals profile and he mentioned us as recruiting him in a Scout update, but it doesn't appear we are heavily pursuing at this time, but you know our staff ...
http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/suarez-update.html
http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/betancourt-to-montrose-or-st-benedicts.html
Good work.
Could this be Frank? :dunno:QuoteI was down in PR this year looking at a couple of kids and to be honest the style of play and lack of size made it hard for me to see if the kids could really play. Very few of these kids really know or want to play defense and the transition game doesn't exist", said a D1 coach.
Graded as a 90 by ESPNU's Scouts Inc., Wayne Martin of Providence School in Jacksonville is one of the top junior basketball players in the state of Florida.
As a 6-foot-8, 200-pound combo forward, Martin is being pursued by numerous big-time college programs primarily from the Southeast.
He claims scholarship offers from Ole Miss, Memphis, Alabama, Central Florida, Arkansas, Miami, and Virginia Tech.
“Well, not really [any favorites]," Martin said. "It’s still kind of up in the air. I’m still deciding, still cutting my list down."
Clemson, Kansas State, and Tennessee are also amongst the schools showing interest.
With the number of schools recruiting him being so high, Martin has yet to have the time to narrow down his list, and is not sure when he will.
“I hadn’t really thought about it yet,” he said. “There are so many schools, I’d have to sit and analyze every school, and I haven’t had the time.”
a 6-foot-8, 200-pound
Underdog Wildcat has really busted onto the goEMAW scene
Underdog Wildcat has really busted onto the goEMAW scene
Ever since I was a little kid, I'd always hoped my posting skills would one day be analogous to the storied program that is NUBB hoops. Thank you all for helping those dreams come true.
EBosshoops has been killin it on the national board ever since he joined Rivals, hope that can continue.
Convo referencing Nino and McCullough linked below. SOB, it's not free.
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=143042015&sid=910&tid=143042015&style=2&Override=1
EBosshoops has been killin it on the national board ever since he joined Rivals, hope that can continue.
Convo referencing Nino and McCullough linked below. SOB, it's not free.
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=143042015&sid=910&tid=143042015&style=2&Override=1
paraphrase?
BTW, let me echo the other complimentary words...nice work.
KSU coaches are quite confident that Nino will clear the Clearinging House this summer and will redshirt the 2010-2011 season.
Wayne Martin listed KSU. Frank Martin recruits Fla well. Martin is a nice player, superb athlete.
QuoteKSU coaches are quite confident that Nino will clear the Clearinging House this summer and will redshirt the 2010-2011 season.
random gpc post. i'm a sucker for these. if samuels was emaw enough to do it w. out of state tuition, why would williams lack the emaw to walk-on/red-shirt instate?
ar-t making his 2010 aau debut? :runaway:
ar-t making his 2010 aau debut? :runaway:
Does this explain Betancourt?
ar-t making his 2010 aau debut? :runaway:
ar-t making his 2010 aau debut? :runaway:
noyhing in rivals report on last nights games :users:
Nike Team Florida played without Scottie Wilbekin (6-2, 180, Gainesville, FL The Rock School) in its win over Seattle-based Friends of Hoop. Wilbekin will fly in tonight and will be available the remaining three games of the weekend. In his absence, Nike Team Florida split time between Will Cummings (6-0, 160, Jacksonville, FL Providence) and Angel Rodriguez (5-11, 165, Miami, FL Dr. Krop).
noy exactly glowing is it?
where'd u find that?
Surprise Player
Will Cummings (Jacksonville, Fla./Providence)
2011 PG, 6-0, 160
Team: Team Florida
Cummings displayed great speed and quickness throughout the game. He played in full attack-mode and got to the rim in transition and from the point in the half-court set. He beat his defender with a quick first step and finished with excellent touch and body control. Cummings advanced the ball on the break and also did a nice job of penetrating and dishing to an open teammate. He has improved his midrange jumper and can even hit an open 3 with needed time and space, but this is still an area that he needs to work on with a sense of urgency. Cummings has shown notable improvement since I last saw him, especially with his shooting. He plays with energy and makes his presence felt on the defensive end. Cummings pressures the ball and is fully alert in the passing lanes. Currently Cummings is hearing from Jacksonville, North Florida, Central Florida, Fairfield, East Carolina and Old Dominion. If Cummings improves, expect this list to grow.
So, is he not a Trop or can you run with both? VLAAUIQ here.
So, is he not a Trop or can you run with both? VLAAUIQ here.
alvarez is really good at the giving ridic quotes & flying out on school visits with players part of his job. he seems less interested in the taking a group of kids to play bball on weekends part. i have no idea when the tropics last played in a tourney.
players can switch whenever they want. sometimes can play for two different teams at the same tourney. if alavarez ever decides that the tropics should play bball again, i'm sure ar-t will run with them.
Cummings stood out.QuoteSurprise Player
Will Cummings (Jacksonville, Fla./Providence)
2011 PG, 6-0, 160
Team: Team Florida
Cummings displayed great speed and quickness throughout the game....
Yeah, thanks. Did Mayo or someone else play with DCA or Mike play with someone else for a game and freaked us out one way or the other? I seem to remember that.
Yeah, thanks. Did Mayo or someone else play with DCA or Mike play with someone else for a game and freaked us out one way or the other? I seem to remember that.
mayo played with the tropics for a tournament.
Cummings stood out.QuoteSurprise Player
Will Cummings (Jacksonville, Fla./Providence)
2011 PG, 6-0, 160
Team: Team Florida
Cummings displayed great speed and quickness throughout the game....
this is very painful to read, personally. i have a large emotional investment in ar-t's success.
Ar-t might just suck.
Ar-t might just suck.
My hopeful guess? He can't speak english well enough to have mattered/played enough to matter
Ar-t might just suck.
My hopeful guess? He can't speak english well enough to have mattered/played enough to matter
My hope was that the evaluator was actually watching Ar-t and was confused.
My hope was that the evaluator was actually watching Ar-t and was confused.
ohhhh, good one
Rodriguez's summer coach Tom Topping absolutely loves the kid and thinks he's high major all the way.
Most observers believe Will Cummings (6-0, 160, Jacksonville, FL Providence) is about to go from mid-major to high major prospect. Against the Georgia Stars Saturday morning, Cummings had 12 points, five assists and six steals while teaming with Scottie Wilbekin in the Nike Team Florida backcourt.
Two other Nike Team Florida players getting plenty of interest are Chris Bryant (6-8, 185, Tallahassee, FL Rickards) and 2012 center prospect Ty Houghton (6-10, 210, Miami, FL Dr. Krop). Bryant ate up with 13 points, nine rebounds, two assists, two steals and a blocked shot while holding Parker to four points. Houghton came off the bench to score six points, grab six rebounds and block three shots.
I saw him play in Houston this weekend. He's real good player. Very solid PG, a little on the small side at about 5'11 but he's nice.
QuoteMost observers believe Will Cummings (6-0, 160, Jacksonville, FL Providence) is about to go from mid-major to high major prospect. Against the Georgia Stars Saturday morning, Cummings had 12 points, five assists and six steals while teaming with Scottie Wilbekin in the Nike Team Florida backcourt.
Two other Nike Team Florida players getting plenty of interest are Chris Bryant (6-8, 185, Tallahassee, FL Rickards) and 2012 center prospect Ty Houghton (6-10, 210, Miami, FL Dr. Krop). Bryant ate up with 13 points, nine rebounds, two assists, two steals and a blocked shot while holding Parker to four points. Houghton came off the bench to score six points, grab six rebounds and block three shots.
brutal. at least some random poster said this:QuoteI saw him play in Houston this weekend. He's real good player. Very solid PG, a little on the small side at about 5'11 but he's nice.
the silver lining in the A-R-T sucking business is that I can probably say I told you so. (go celebrate your Nino getting in the top 150 discussion, losers).
:frown:
Hoping to in your face your early in your facing of the rest of us. :frown:
robcassidy22
Unless a letter is signed, there are no "done deals" in basketball recruiting, but this is as close as it gets. http://tinyurl.com/29vphf5
Nice looking player. Strong, solid and competitive.
Well, sucky or not, sounds like he's ours :dunno:Quoterobcassidy22 t
Unless a letter is signed, there are no "done deals" in basketball recruiting, but this is as close as it gets. http://tinyurl.com/29vphf5
Well, sucky or not, sounds like he's ours :dunno:Quoterobcassidy22 t
Unless a letter is signed, there are no "done deals" in basketball recruiting, but this is as close as it gets. http://tinyurl.com/29vphf5
He's pretty much ours. At least he'll likely sign in the fall.
Well, sucky or not, sounds like he's ours :dunno:Quoterobcassidy22 t
Unless a letter is signed, there are no "done deals" in basketball recruiting, but this is as close as it gets. http://tinyurl.com/29vphf5
He's pretty much ours. At least he'll likely sign in the fall.
Long time lurker here....
Isn't Angel supposed to be pretty darn good? :dunno:
Also :dunno:Quote from: Jerry MeyerNice looking player. Strong, solid and competitive.
Guess: Angel - #115, Nino - #95.
Guess: Angel - #115, Nino - #95.
:surprised:
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs533.snc3/30260_390876740473_683040473_4599202_3465539_n.jpg)who dis
Agreed on McLemore, NO shot with him.
Not offering Boatright yet, I can understand. I love his game, but he's 1 tiny fracker. Don't think it's a great idea to sign 2 sub 6 fters in 1 class(ART being the other).
The more we slow play Harrison though, the more I cringe. From what I've read, he sounds like a high-scoring combo G, similar to Cook. Hope we're not putting all our eggs in the Cook basket, if that is the case, I think we all know how that's going to end up.
I'll see if I can get Telep to comment on Nino and ART.
Guess: Angel - #115, Nino - #95.
Guess: Angel - #115, Nino - #95.
williams - 125ish on this first rivals list. then will reclassify to 2010 and not be reranked.
ar-t - 75ish.
i don't agree that kstate has no chance with mclemore. low chance, but i don't think his recruitment is going to end soon. lots of things could happen. not sure another 2/3 is a high priority either.
seen Angel many times, helped him get on NIKE Team Florida (as NTF does not
have many South Florida players) that is based in St. Pete!
NOT as fast as Clemente.....
@ same stage is more of a True Blue PG, better 3 ball shooter, plays for
FM former HC @ Miami Senior and he has "been yelled at", more overall
ball skills than DC!
Quote from: e-mail I gotseen Angel many times, helped him get on NIKE Team Florida (as NTF does not
have many South Florida players) that is based in St. Pete!
NOT as fast as Clemente.....
@ same stage is more of a True Blue PG, better 3 ball shooter, plays for
FM former HC @ Miami Senior and he has "been yelled at", more overall
ball skills than DC!
NOT as fast as Clemente.....
Quote from: e-mail I gotseen Angel many times, helped him get on NIKE Team Florida (as NTF does not
have many South Florida players) that is based in St. Pete!
NOT as fast as Clemente.....
@ same stage is more of a True Blue PG, better 3 ball shooter, plays for
FM former HC @ Miami Senior and he has "been yelled at", more overall
ball skills than DC!
Nice work.QuoteNOT as fast as Clemente.....
Who is? We'll probably never have a guy that fast with the ball again.
How legit is the e-mailer?
Quote from: e-mail I gotseen Angel many times, helped him get on NIKE Team Florida (as NTF does not
have many South Florida players) that is based in St. Pete!
NOT as fast as Clemente.....
@ same stage is more of a True Blue PG, better 3 ball shooter, plays for
FM former HC @ Miami Senior and he has "been yelled at", more overall
ball skills than DC!
Nice work.QuoteNOT as fast as Clemente.....
Who is? We'll probably never have a guy that fast with the ball again.
How legit is the e-mailer?
One of the Best Prognosticators in recruiting out there. JMHO.
clemente is fast ...never ceases to amaze me
Angel is Top 5-10 in Florida for 2011,
so assume that is Top 50-100 nationally*
QuoteAngel is Top 5-10 in Florida for 2011,
so assume that is Top 50-100 nationally*
sys has pointed out his tendnancy but he left that asterick out there like it was nothing. It doesn't refer to anything.
QuoteAngel is Top 5-10 in Florida for 2011,
so assume that is Top 50-100 nationally*
sys has pointed out his tendnancy but he left that asterick out there like it was nothing. It doesn't refer to anything.
I've always figured him to be somewhere close to Larkin in the rankings, but this weekend did nothing to help my confidence. Somebody should ask BP why it appears that he was the 3rd string PG for NTF last weekend.
i don't agree that kstate has no chance with mclemore. low chance, but i don't think his recruitment is going to end soon. lots of things could happen. not sure another 2/3 is a high priority either.
We haven't recruited him, he's top 30, we're done.
Somebody should ask BP why it appears that he was the 3rd string PG for NTF last weekend.
Somebody should ask BP why it appears that he was the 3rd string PG for NTF last weekend.
one of the guys in front of him is a semi-senior playing in his last aau tournament (i think). ar-t just joined the team.
i don't agree that kstate has no chance with mclemore. low chance, but i don't think his recruitment is going to end soon. lots of things could happen. not sure another 2/3 is a high priority either.
We haven't recruited him, he's top 30, we're done.
yeah, i'm not saying i think it is likely. i'm just saying that i don't think his recruitment is over.
he seems to be very comfortable in english.
McLemore is all but committed to KU at this point.
His grades are a question. Once he gets to Oak Hill Academy and straightens those out, I have a feeling KU will be ready to accept a commitment.
His grades are a question.
His grades are a question.
yes, that's the most probable explanation. but if that's the issue, why would ku wait till spring with crossed fingers? he's good, but not that good.
heard he probably won't go to oak hill, btw. drama.
Some people think he might even be top 10 overall.
Furthermore, when the 2011 rankings are updated, McLemore, according to Rivals.com National Recruiting Analyst Jerry Meyer, will make the jump to five-star status.
http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1080832 (http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1080832)QuoteFurthermore, when the 2011 rankings are updated, McLemore, according to Rivals.com National Recruiting Analyst Jerry Meyer, will make the jump to five-star status.
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/897/942894.jpg)
"Not every high school kid truly brings it every single time," Bossi said. "Nino brings it every single time. We're starting to toss around our 2011 rankings, and I'm going to be pushing for him pretty hard."
nice to hear that kstate contacted jackson.
nice to hear that kstate contacted jackson.
what did I miss?
Better than 50/50 proposition that Nino is on campus this fall. Coaches are confident he will make it through the clearinghouse and be at KSU for 2010-11. If this happens, he will redshirt for sure.
Quote from: gpc posterBetter than 50/50 proposition that Nino is on campus this fall. Coaches are confident he will make it through the clearinghouse and be at KSU for 2010-11. If this happens, he will redshirt for sure.
Quote from: gpc posterBetter than 50/50 proposition that Nino is on campus this fall. Coaches are confident he will make it through the clearinghouse and be at KSU for 2010-11. If this happens, he will redshirt for sure.
is this what we want?
Quote from: gpc posterBetter than 50/50 proposition that Nino is on campus this fall. Coaches are confident he will make it through the clearinghouse and be at KSU for 2010-11. If this happens, he will redshirt for sure.
What's the downside? :dunno:
What's the downside? :dunno:
can't blow up in rankings and decommit for michigancat to shove in our faces.
"Fit in or Quit"
"Fit in or Quit"
"Fit in or Quit"
I'm thinking, "Fit In or shazbot! Off."
Quote from: random emaw heroif ar-t is so decent, why was he the 3rd string pg in for ntf in houston?
Angel is 4-5 hours away from most of NIKE Team Florida and had NEVER
practiced with them! Other PG is in his 3rd year with NTF*
AAU Coach said that he was VERY Pleased with Angel.
scout says we've offered harrison :dunno:
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011 (http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011)
scout says we've offered harrison :dunno:
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011 (http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011)
yeah. that's been reported elsewhere too. but him not having an offer makes for a much better narrative.
To be fair, there were reports last week specifically saying we have not offered even though we were a favorite. I've not read a report saying we had offered yet.
tons of great stuff here. williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036
tons of great stuff here. williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036
I am pretty damn happy bossi got the rivals gig
Re: PG is an ANGEL
5th year Senior
Angel is better @ same stage
...J J Barea was/in NBA for several years
.......Top 100-150 IS from that AAU +/_ circuit!/*
More BallPlayers
Who do we have to blow to get this guy to post over here?
tons of great stuff here. williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036
More BallPlayers
Who do we have to blow to get this guy to post over here?
iirc he was asked at some point to post on ksufans and said he didn't want to post on a free board or something.
AaronsUKBBBlog
It’s highly doubtful that Calipari still has an interest — or a need – in Kadeem Jack
QuoteAaronsUKBBBlog
It’s highly doubtful that Calipari still has an interest — or a need – in Kadeem Jack
Don't know that Kadeem Jack updates are really relevant to us but I'm going to keep posting them for something to do
tons of great stuff here. williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036
Getting more excited about Nino with each article.
i agree, he can play and his body is built on a whole different level than the kids around him.tons of great stuff here. williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036
Getting more excited about Nino with each article.
Nino will be a four star before the summer is over.
I havent seen this before, but it sounds like we are recruiting Thomas Gipson, per Autin Meek. 6-7" Forward. Here is a copy of the article.
Thomas Gipson
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Maybe it's the beard, maybe it's the game, but it's hard to watch Thomas Gipson without picturing Damion James.
He gets that a lot.
Gipson, a 2011 power forward, is playing with Team Texas at this weekend's Kansas City Classic. Team Texas coach Ray Forsett mentioned Gipson was looking at K-State, so we got the run-down on the 6-foot-7 forward.
Gipson listed his favorites as K-State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma. He'll probably wait until fall to pick a school, but he likes Frank Martin and K-State's style of play.
Gipson describes his game like this: "Very physical in the paint, hard-nosed, dominant." Sounds about right. Gipson might be an inch or two shorter than teammate Zach Peters, a KU commit, but he's every bit as thick.
Rivals and Scout rank Gipson as a three-star prospect, and he was No. 128 in Rivals' latest 150. We'll leave the evaluations to the professionals, but Gipson definitely looks like a high-major player. Keep an eye on this guy
top 4 mention!
top 4 mention!
Looks strong. Decent ups. Looks like a southpaw.
Probably a decent replacement for Kelly down the road. After two or three years with SG, he'd look like an advertisement for Muscle Milk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g)
top 4 mention!
top 4 mention!
Looks strong. Decent ups. Looks like a southpaw.
Probably a decent replacement for Kelly down the road. After two or three years with SG, he'd look like an advertisement for Muscle Milk.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g)
For being 11 plus minutes of highlights, you sure don't get a lot of variety. Obviously finishes strong at the rim, has some touch and lots of power. Would have liked to see if he has any post moves, or can face up, or shoot.
Now he’s back to saying he will attend South Kent.
QuoteNow he’s back to saying he will attend South Kent.
Jack Says It’s South Kent; Recruiting Roundup (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/24/jack-says-its-south-kent-recruiting-roundup/)
Angel get rated by ESPN. It's embarassingly bad. :embarrassed:
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=100506&season=2011&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d100506%26season%3d2011
jesus christ, they make him sound like a fit recruit.
Miami has solidified its position at the top speedy point guard Ryan Boatright's school list. Kentucky, Georgetown, Illinois and Indiana are also showing various degrees of attention to Boatwright, but the recruiting effort Miami has been putting forth will be hard to beat.
QuoteMiami has solidified its position at the top speedy point guard Ryan Boatright's school list. Kentucky, Georgetown, Illinois and Indiana are also showing various degrees of attention to Boatwright, but the recruiting effort Miami has been putting forth will be hard to beat.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1088149
Good news bros (but not MICat), everyone on GPC says Angel is just rated low on ESPN because ESPN sucks at recruiting analysis.
Good news bros (but not MICat), everyone on GPC says Angel is just rated low on ESPN because ESPN sucks at recruiting analysis.
ESPN has pretty good analysts, but they are basing their ranking of him off the one tournament they've seen him at this summer. A kid who dominated the miami prep scene this past summer, went tit for tat with Shane Larkin and has offers from Miami and NC State isn't an 82.
100Good news bros (but not MICat), everyone on GPC says Angel is just rated low on ESPN because ESPN sucks at recruiting analysis.
ESPN has pretty good analysts, but they are basing their ranking of him off the one tournament they've seen him at this summer. A kid who dominated the miami prep scene this past summer, went tit for tat with Shane Larkin and has offers from Miami and NC State isn't an 82.
What else would they rate the third string PG on a medicore AAU team? :dunno:
(agree that he's not really an 82)
If the best prognosticator did HS ratings for the public he'd be like 105.6. That's all I need to know.
If the best prognosticator did HS ratings for the public he'd be like 105.6. That's all I need to know.
Would really like to see somebody besides BP and Alvarez heap praise on AR-T.
If the best prognosticator did HS ratings for the public he'd be like 105.6. That's all I need to know.
Would really like to see somebody besides BP and Alvarez heap praise on AR-T.
ESPN has pretty good analysts, but they are basing their ranking of him off the one tournament they've seen him at this summer. A kid who dominated the miami prep scene this past summer, went tit for tat with Shane Larkin and has offers from Miami and NC State isn't an 82.
What else would they rate the third string PG on a medicore AAU team? :dunno:
(agree that he's not really an 82)
4 points lower than Irving, who was 2 points lower than any commit we've ever had rated.
4 points lower than Irving, who was 2 points lower than any commit we've ever had rated.
i think mitchell's initial rating was 88. maybe 86. iirc.
1. Nino Williams
SF, 6-5, Mo-Kan Elite
Had an MVP been handed out for the event, the future K-State Wildcat would have been a lock for the award. A bruising wing who likes to create contact and slash to the rim, he's a top-notch transition finisher. His jumper - which still has a small hitch on the setup - is something that defenders have to respect out to the 3-point line and he makes tough shots when his team needs them. He's consistently improved his overall game and tightening his handle is next on his list.
4. Willie Cauley
C, 6-10, Mo-Kan Elite 16's
At this point, you can't really count on Cauley for consistent offensive production. Some of that is his fault for not always working hard enough, some of it is on his teammates for missing him in the post. Regardless, it's about long term projection with Cauley. He already blocks a lot of shots, can dominate on the glass in stretches and he moves very, very well for a guy his size. He does have some offensive talent, good feet and soft hands. Clearly a high major prospect who has heard early from Arizona, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Indiana, Notre Dame, California, Nebraska and others.
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I live in lansing and nino lives up the street from me. He's been showing up to the rec daily. He is only 6'5 on a good day (probably closer to 6'3). He plays like a truck in the lane and his jumper is getting better. Talked to him about weither he is coming to ksu next year instead of prep school and he said he will for sure be at ksu for next year!!!
new name to keep an eye on - jerome seagears
new name to keep an eye on - jerome seagearsAnother point guard?
new name to keep an eye on - jerome seagears
Anything concrete or just that he's DCA/Florida.
new name to keep an eye on - jerome seagears
Anything concrete or just that he's DCA/Florida.
don't know if you can read this, but:
Mention (http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=2&c=972676&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/972676.html)
Surprise player
Jerome Seagears, PG (6-3, 175)
2011, District of Columbia/Flora MacDonald
Seagears is a dynamic point guard who consistently produced against solid competition. He scored 26 impressive points in a tightly contested loss to United Faith Christian. He is a long, athletic leader with good size that gets it down the floor in a hurry and is great at finding a seam to attack the basket. He is nearly impossible to stop in the open floor. He can go strong with either hand and is great at adjusting and changing direction in an instant. He showed a nice stroke from deep and makes his free throws like a good point guard is supposed to do. He is a good defender who can extend pressure up the floor while containing the ball. A competitor that hates to lose, he plays with a high level of intensity and brings it for 32 minutes each time he takes the floor. He needs to improve at drawing the defense and finding an open teammate, but he showed that he should be able to make the adjustment.
Jack piece that mentions Kelly in passing. Weird.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/27/new-rice-coach-confirms-jack-to-south-kent/
Reached earlier this week by text, Jack confirmed that he would indeed spend a year at prep school.
“Yea,” he wrote.
Dorian Finney-Smith, SF, Boo Williams- Should he replicate what he did on Saturday for the rest of the summer, Finney-Smith is poised to make a climb up the 2011 rankings. A skinny wing with quickness, athleticism and a surprising floor game, he's looking confident right now and is playing in attack mode. He is a slasher by nature who makes just enough shots to keep defenders honest. Saturday, he even ran some point and showed surprising feel for the position. He listed Kansas, Kansas State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Maryland, Florida, Xavier and Cincinnati as his current suitors.
Quinn Cook (2011 DC Assault)- This heady combo guard makes me think of Scottie Reynolds when I watch him. He quietly can control a game with his composed and skilled play. Rarely does he over do it, but yet the production is there. Crafty and strong with the ball, Cook is a serious threat to score from all three levels.
Jerome Seagears (2011 DC Assault)- Seagears spent most of the time running the point for DC Assault, and he was impressive. Powerfully built, Seagears got where he wanted to get on the court and found open teammates in the process. He also looked comfortable shooting the ball from behind the arc.
Presently a ranked three-star prospect, Seagears might be due a bump in the rankings.
Marcus Thornton (2011 DC Assault)- Liked what Thornton did on the wing as a scorer, playing off the creativity of Cook and Seagers.
Thornton? i like this kid already (i bet he's hot too).LOL?
Scout's Evan Daniels liked what he saw out of Thomas Gipson this weekend at the EYBL tourney in LA. Paraphrasing, he's an undersized PF height wise but he overcomes that by working hard on both ends. Clears space with his wide frame and is using that frame to attack the glass and finish in the paint. Also knocked down a couple face up looks from mid-range.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/973716.html
Don't like this development 1 damn bit:
"Kadeem Jack says that he plans to attend elite camps at Arizona and Kansas coming up this summer, and also might visit Rutgers next week. Beyond those three schools he mentioned Arkansas, Miami, Syracuse, West Virginia, St. John's, Kentucky, Georgetown, Memphis, and that he has spoken to North Carolina."
In case you don't want to read the entire update(I don't blame you if you don't, it's freakin long), Jack is now running with the New England Playaz
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1089349
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Nino could be a part-time student and "gray-shirt", but he could do NOTHING
related to the MBB program...NO "clock" starts!
Likely develop better @ a Prep by practicing/playing...then still have 5 years to play 4*
YES, Juevol needs 1 summer session, then has 3 years to play.
NIKE Team Florida
...went 2-3 in L.A. last weekend (9-5 for the Spring), their Coach said that
Angel was one of their Top 2 Players for the Weekend!
can someone get him to post here?? :crossfingers:
I still don't get why Nino wouldn't be able to Redshirt during the '10-'11 season if he's able to fully qualify. He would basically be a walk-on who's allowed to workout and practice with the team. He could make substantial improvements during that hypothetical RS year and would be ready to roll in '11-'12. If he's on campus, you might as well have him to connected to the team as much as possible.for Nino this makes the most sense given that RS's do practice with the team. my ill informed guess is that frank is probably trying (or was trying) to manage his roster around some issues we dont know about.
I directly asked BP this in response to the above statement and have yet to receive a response.
nino would have to pay his own way, right?
nino would have to pay his own way, right? last schollie went to that there canadian fellerhe has little to gain from beating up on prep schoolers for a year
nino would have to pay his own way, right? last schollie went to that there canadian fellerhe has little to gain from beating up on prep schoolers for a year
My Bob Gibbons update:
http://truebluekentucky.com/index.php/basketball/926-guest-basketball/3235-bob-gibbons.html
I'm posting it here because I see you were talking about Seagears.
My Bob Gibbons update:
http://truebluekentucky.com/index.php/basketball/926-guest-basketball/3235-bob-gibbons.html
I'm posting it here because I see you were talking about Seagears.
My Bob Gibbons update:
http://truebluekentucky.com/index.php/basketball/926-guest-basketball/3235-bob-gibbons.html
I'm posting it here because I see you were talking about Seagears.
I still don't get why Nino wouldn't be able to Redshirt during the '10-'11 season if he's able to fully qualify. He would basically be a walk-on who's allowed to workout and practice with the team. He could make substantial improvements during that hypothetical RS year and would be ready to roll in '11-'12. If he's on campus, you might as well have him to connected to the team as much as possible.
I directly asked BP this in response to the above statement and have yet to receive a response.
D'Angelo Harrison has earned some impressive offers so far (Alabama, Arizona State, Oklahoma State), but do you think with his recent breakout play on the AAU circuit that his offer list will grow even more impressive than it is now? Am I crazy, or does he have some Stephen Curry to his game?
- Greg from Hutchinson
Harrison was one of the most impressive prospects I watched this spring. He is an absolute scoring machine.
I like the Curry comparison because there is not much physically about Harrison that catches your eyes. But once the game starts, he scores bucket after bucket. He doesn't need much of a window to get a shot off, and he can score in a variety of ways.
I have no doubt that his offer list will grow dramatically once the coaches get out in July.
Quinn Cook, PG- The Hyatsville (Md.) Dematha standout was easily one of the best scorers on the floor Friday night. He's neither super quick or athletic, but the six footer is very crafty and skilled with the ball. He hit on jumpers, some tough drives in transition and dribble pull-ups. His game features lots of spin and hesitation moves that he's able to pull off without losing balance because of his superior body control.
Speed is a virtue at the point guard position and Jerome Seagears has plenty of it. The the six foot tall floor general from Flora McDonald in Red Springs, N.C. is a jet with the ball who weaves in and out of traffic and shows tremendous burst to the rim in pick and roll situations.
Isaiah Austin wasn't on the court we were focusing on, but we saw him making lots of plays. He hit on a nifty step-back three and a tough jump hook, but most importantly he was imposing defensively. Saw him block and alter a ton of shots.
Jerome Seagears - A physical point guard in the 2011 class, Seagears has command of the game with the ball in his hands. Love his pace when attacking on the high-ball screen.
Quinn Cook will stick around Sunday and visit UCLA before heading to Arizona on Monday. He is contemplating nine schools, including North Carolina, Wake Forest, Villanova, Georgetown, Rutgers, St. John's and North Carolina State. All but North Carolina have offered.
Cannen Cunningham-(2011-Brandon Bass Elite) is blessed with a ton of upside. He can score the basketball from inside and out. Cunningham is very skilled and athletic power forward with a lot of untapped potential. He has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Santa Clara, SMU and Wichita State and receiving strong interest from Kansas State, Purdue, Texas, and Ohio State.
Terrence Durham-(2011-Memphis Elite) the one-time 2010 recruit will be reclassifying and will be attending North Carolina Prep. Durham has offers from Ole Miss, Nebraska, and Wichita State and is also receiving interest from Tennessee and Kansas State.
new name & durham to '11.QuoteCannen Cunningham-(2011-Brandon Bass Elite) is blessed with a ton of upside. He can score the basketball from inside and out. Cunningham is very skilled and athletic power forward with a lot of untapped potential. He has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Santa Clara, SMU and Wichita State and receiving strong interest from Kansas State, Purdue, Texas, and Ohio State.
new name & durham to '11.QuoteCannen Cunningham-(2011-Brandon Bass Elite) is blessed with a ton of upside. He can score the basketball from inside and out. Cunningham is very skilled and athletic power forward with a lot of untapped potential. He has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Santa Clara, SMU and Wichita State and receiving strong interest from Kansas State, Purdue, Texas, and Ohio State.
brandon bass? that just means we won't get him.
More BPQuoteNIKE Team Florida
...went 2-3 in L.A. last weekend (9-5 for the Spring), their Coach said that
Angel was one of their Top 2 Players for the Weekend!
This could go anywhere but, David Cox is what 'Te used to be :cry:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/09/rutgers-in-mix-for-nigerian-xavier-henry/
we do not appear to be pursuing Goodman since his decommittment.
"Point guard Jerome Seagears (Washington, D.C./Flora McDonald Academy) had a strong showing. He ran the floor well, scored the ball off the bounce or with the jumper and executed pick-and-rolls well. Schools he is hearing from are Florida, Rutgers, Seton Hall, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Boston College and Arizona."
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5259917
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Very impressed with D'Angelo Harrison. The 6'3 guard out of Dulles (TX) is big-time.
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D'Angelo Harrison has a unique haircut, to say the least.
The Franchize All-Stars from the Lone Star State made the trip north from Houston with their talented roster, and showed immediately what they have to offer. Led by Harrison, the Franchize All-Stars were able to dismantle Upstate Elite which is coached by former Syracuse standout John Wallace.
Harrison is a 6-foot-3 guard who is really capable of lighting up the scoreboard. He didn't have his best shooting day, but still he was very effective. Harrison was able to beat his man off the dribble and get to the rim, or finish in the mid-range. While Harrison didn't get hot from deep, he did hit a few jumpers, and those opened up the driving lanes.
On top of that, Harrison is a major competitor who got after it on the defensive end. He is a good athlete with a solid amount of lateral quickness. Those physical gifts combined with his mental desire to win make him a tough player to deal with on the floor, and that was obvious on Friday night.
D'Angelo Harrison noted that the entire Big XII is after him along with schools such as Marquette, Houston, and Alabama also showing him attention.
There's a new Omari Lawrence article on GPC that says he would recieve a full ride and not walk on. So who is leaving to open up the extra scholarship?Is Freddy for sure going to make it to Manhattan?
GPC has heard of basketball?
Could always be juevol not coming.
There's a new Omari Lawrence article on GPC that says he would recieve a full ride and not walk on. So who is leaving to open up the extra scholarship?Is Freddy for sure going to make it to Manhattan?
Update from CU site(linked below) says we've offered Cannen Cunningham. He says KSU and UT are his 2 favorites at this point, even though UT has not offered yet.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094470
Update from CU site(linked below) says we've offered Cannen Cunningham. He says KSU and UT are his 2 favorites at this point, even though UT has not offered yet.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094470
I am real indecisive so I will probably wait until the last minute to decide.
Update from Scout this week said he liked Kansas State, West Virginia, Oklahoma and Cal.
Angel Rodriguez update
Angel Rodriguez, a current Miami Tropics guard that K-State is actively recruiting for its 2011 class, is still leaning toward the Wildcats. But Alvarez says spending time with Clemente this summer has made Rodriguez grow even fonder of K-State.
“He really looks up to Denis,” Alvarez said of Rodriguez. “And the fact that he knows Frank is the guy who helped him is important to him. He’s leaning hard toward Kansas State. I would be in shock if he doesn’t go there.”
Does that mean Rodriguez will be verbally committing to Martin anytime soon?
“What will happen is, he’ll go see, touch and feel Manhattan first,” Alvarez said. “Once he gets to Bramlage Coliseum and does all the stuff he needs to do on an official visit, he’ll be able to give his commitment then in the early-signing period.”
Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2010/06/17/clementes-draft-stock-rising/#ixzz0r9Qesywh
aa is hilarious.ridiculously
Ryan Boatright, PG, Aurora (Ill.) East- Few guys in the country can match his quickness and explosion off of the dribble. He's little at about 5-foot-10 and 150 pounds soaking wet but he's tough as nails and doesn't let misfortune get him down. He can smoke jumpers from deep, is an electric finisher on the break , and shows signs as a playmaker for others. There aren't a lot of point guards left in 2011 and his recruitment will certainly benefit from it.
Ryan Boatright listed West Virginia, Wake Forest (said he had an offer from old staff but didn't know about new one), Miami, Kentucky, Kansas State, DePaul, Baylor and Tennessee.
It's that newly discovered curse of Melvin that Dalonte can't seem to overcome(Watkins was his HC at Charlotte).
Dalonte has a chance here to reverse a couple of bad trends, losing recruits to MU and breaking the DCA dryspell. Personally, I say offer Harrison, get him on board ASAP, and remove any drama from the situation but I would not be disappointed if we ended up with Seagears. Really looks fast, strong, and very athletic overall, which I know makes our staff :love:
I recently became aware that Kansas State was also considering you. How does that make you feel?
Luke Mergerson: That makes me feel great. I was receiving letters with information regarding their program, but I didn't know that they were interested in me. They are a great program with a very intense and great coach. There is a player named Nick Russell on the team who I am cool with. He went to Duncanville and then graduated from Arlington Grace Prep.
so it's been pretty obvious for a while now that the 2011 class will consist of a SG/SF tweener (Nino), a PG or comboguard (most likely Angel) and a forward.
could boatright defend any big 12 guards at that 5'10" 150? doubt he's really 5'10 either
lawrence doesn't cloud the issue. he's insurance.
swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all. only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture. and that's not happening.
swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all. only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture. and that's not happening.
swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all. only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture. and that's not happening.
swapping a 2009 1 for a 2010 3 doesn't make an '11 difference?
:flush:
no. not when you consider that we are overstocked and undertalented at both of those positions (notable exception being Jake).
almost, the only way taking either makes sense is if they are planning on running someone at the end of the year.
(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)
(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)
myles sort of fits that profile. lawrence doesn't at all. if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.
If he's still a fatass, then they'll show him the door.
(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)
myles sort of fits that profile. lawrence doesn't at all. if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.
(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)
myles sort of fits that profile. lawrence doesn't at all. if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.
I agree with sys, Lawrence fits more the Clemente, Kelly, and hopefully Asprilla model, than like the Herrera, Gilbert, and Awaji model. Two different monsters.
Lawrence is closer to Herrera than Clemente or Kelly.
Lawrence is closer to Herrera than Clemente or Kelly.
ludicrous. not in any way.
whatever.
would have to sit out a year, has 4 to play 3, has other high major (hell d1) offers, is interested in playing collegiate basketball: minor differences.Agree with all these points and I do think that Lawrence would be a pretty good get. However, he did have a fairly unimpressive year stats-wise as a part of a very mediocre St. John's squad, so I understand the concern.
Omari Lawrence: (see Abdul Herrera) (DO NOT see Dennis Clemente) (See Curtis Kelly if yourboarderlineFake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
yosh, i think i see the problem. you're looking at a lawrence vs herrera/kelly/clemente comparo vis a vis how good they are. that's not the issue at all, and is completely beside the point.
the comparo is about whether the staff is recruiting him as a 1 year stop-gap or not.
Omari Lawrence: (see Abdul Herrera) (DO NOT see Dennis Clemente) (See Curtis Kelly if yourboarderlineFake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
"you're"
They didn't really have any other options with the scholly so why not? I see Lawrence the same way.
When did everyone on this board turn full blown Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
ARE WE EVEN HAVING AN ELITE CAMP OR DID IT GET CANCELLED?
ARE WE EVEN HAVING AN ELITE CAMP OR DID IT GET CANCELLED?
do you think the "media" is afraid to tell us?
yeah, I would hate for them to piss off the staff and lose their access. access to what, not sure.
Lawrence is much more like Clemente than Herrera IMO. Herrera was Frank's boy, first kid he recruited to Cincinnati. I really don't think that situation is comparable. But a pretty talented kid who didn't completely fit at a lower tier bcs school is a major similarity between Lawrence and Clemente. Now we'll just have to see if there is any talent there or if Frank gives him a shot.
Lawrence is much more like Clemente than Herrera IMO. Herrera was Frank's boy, first kid he recruited to Cincinnati. I really don't think that situation is comparable. But a pretty talented kid who didn't completely fit at a lower tier bcs school is a major similarity between Lawrence and Clemente. Now we'll just have to see if there is any talent there or if Frank gives him a shot.
also a guard so a higher chance he pans out. he just has to lose weight apparently.
if you beleive KOB.
In other news, Te460K is has drawn several smiley faces and a mean looking monster type character on his office whiteboard , . . just underneath the note to call Baron and set up a test drive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ&feature=channel
Frank, you can relate to him cant you? GET HIM
couldnt help myself.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ&feature=channel
Frank, you can relate to him cant you? GET HIM
Nice post, Wyatt. :opcat:
When did everyone on this board turn full blown Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?:frown:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ&feature=channel
Frank, you can relate to him cant you? GET HIM
In other news, Te460K is has drawn several smiley faces and a mean looking monster type character on his office whiteboard , . . just underneath the note to call Baron and set up a test drive.
dax,
you do a very good job w/ this. very good. your biggest obstacle though (imo) is that nobody cares how much coaches get paid. i don't. at all. i personally wish that everybody on the staff made 8 billion a year each. or more if they wanted it. maybe rework your stuff to focus on the laziness and not the amount of money being made. :twocents:
When did everyone on this board turn full blown Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
For me it happened some time in May, I think, not really sure. What was the question?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ&feature=channel
Frank, you can relate to him cant you? GET HIM
:surprised:
LOL at the Chipmunks version of "Whipping Post"
Not listed, but doesn't have any offers yet
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Cezar-Guerrero-82492
and an extra :love: :love: that we probably would get to pronounce his name Say-Zar and listen to Wyatt and Stan butcher it.
We just recently offered Jordan Williams. PF out of Texas...
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jordan-Williams-93725
We haven't set up a visit yet, but we probably will after July.... I like Georgetown and UCLA, and I definitely like Kansas State. I like DePaul, Arizona Seton Hall, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I definitely want to visit Arizona, Cincinnati and DePaul, but all my visits are probably going to be in August and September.
In other news, Te460K is has drawn several smiley faces and a mean looking monster type character on his office whiteboard , . . just underneath the note to call Baron and set up a test drive.
dax,
you do a very good job w/ this. very good. your biggest obstacle though (imo) is that nobody cares how much coaches get paid. i don't. at all. i personally wish that everybody on the staff made 8 billion a year each. or more if they wanted it. maybe rework your stuff to focus on the laziness and not the amount of money being made. :twocents:
Daris . . . that's really the point dude. I couldn't care less if they paid Te a million a year if he was out landing 4 and 5 star recruits. But he's not.
Oh . . . another note, after watching 42's video. I just want us all to take a moment of silence before we issue last rights for the palming/carrying the basketball rule.
sounds like a 3.
cassidy has a nice, emaw-friendly seagears update.QuoteWe haven't set up a visit yet, but we probably will after July.... I like Georgetown and UCLA, and I definitely like Kansas State. I like DePaul, Arizona Seton Hall, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I definitely want to visit Arizona, Cincinnati and DePaul, but all my visits are probably going to be in August and September.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1097084
So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.
So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.
i think there's a better than 50% chance they take 2 guards.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Quinn-Cook/115518535127433?ref=ts
At the expense of a big, or because someone's getting the boot?
So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.
i think there's a better than 50% chance they take 2 guards.
So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.
i think there's a better than 50% chance they take 2 guards.
Bet we're not going to want Tavious to go anywhere after this season.
Bet we're not going to want Tavious to go anywhere after this season.
I bet I will.
Bet we're not going to want Tavious to go anywhere after this season.
sounds like a 3.
cassidy has a nice, emaw-friendly seagears update.QuoteWe haven't set up a visit yet, but we probably will after July.... I like Georgetown and UCLA, and I definitely like Kansas State. I like DePaul, Arizona Seton Hall, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I definitely want to visit Arizona, Cincinnati and DePaul, but all my visits are probably going to be in August and September.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1097084
So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel. If we're still looking at guards, I'm guessing that we're not 100% set on him.
I mean, it's not like we really need a backup plan for one of Art's kids if we offer them.
Don't know much about Art. How would it go over if we left Angel out in the cold?
my N.Y.C. contacts say that Curtis & Jordan when they went home for a little
time, BOTH were telling EVERYONE to go to Kansas State U. w/Frank Martin!
.....Serious Purple Ambassadors.....
uf is starting to recruit ar-t, don't know how seriously.
Angel got U Florida's attention @ their Team Camp last weekend,
Coach Donovan watched ALL of Dr. Krop's games.....
I can't stand selfish players. Selfish players drive me crazy. Selfish players destroy your locker room. He's another guy that's a pass-first guy.
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.
We're paying an assistant coach in excess of $450k a year (with bonuses) to get K-State in on Top 100 kids.
Why bother to pay out that kind of money if that's not happening??
I don't believe for a second that Te brings $450K plus worth of bench coaching prowess to the table.
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.
don't really understand the 2011 negativity. it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s. 3 more likely. are people truly going to be disappointed with that?
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.
don't really understand the 2011 negativity. it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s. 3 more likely. are people truly going to be disappointed with that?
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.
don't really understand the 2011 negativity. it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s. 3 more likely. are people truly going to be disappointed with that?
Will people be disappointed with that? You know damn well the answer is yes, because people are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Will Sugar Dick be disappointed? Hell No! I remember when we would be thrilled about having one 150 guy. Now practically our whole team is made up of them. It's pretty fracking sweet if you ask me.
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.
don't really understand the 2011 negativity. it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s. 3 more likely. are people truly going to be disappointed with that?
Will people be disappointed with that? You know damn well the answer is yes, because people are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Will Sugar Dick be disappointed? Hell No! I remember when we would be thrilled about having one 150 guy. Now practically our whole team is made up of them. It's pretty fracking sweet if you ask me.
I remember standing in line at a subway next to ksu asst. Jimmy Elgas. ksu was in need of a big man, so I asked him if they were recruiting one or having any luck. he said "dont worry, we've got your back". As a young happy EMAW fan, I went home to tell my friends the good news. Come to find out Serge Afeli was on the way.
So yes, it is nice to finally recruit American players recognized by recruiting services.
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.
don't really understand the 2011 negativity. it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s. 3 more likely. are people truly going to be disappointed with that?
Will people be disappointed with that? You know damn well the answer is yes, because people are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Will Sugar Dick be disappointed? Hell No! I remember when we would be thrilled about having one 150 guy. Now practically our whole team is made up of them. It's pretty fracking sweet if you ask me.
I remember standing in line at a subway next to ksu asst. Jimmy Elgas. ksu was in need of a big man, so I asked him if they were recruiting one or having any luck. he said "dont worry, we've got your back". As a young happy EMAW fan, I went home to tell my friends the good news. Come to find out Serge Afeli was on the way.
So yes, it is nice to finally recruit American players recognized by recruiting services.
Dalonte Hill makes almost as much money as Jim Wooldridge did, and likely makes 2.5 times more money than Jim Elgas did.
The last 2 posts = :facepalm:
Aim low . . . shoot just slightly higher.
No sh*t. Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!
No sh*t. Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!
so, what do you want? what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?
No sh*t. Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!
so, what do you want? what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?
top 25-ish class would be a success. two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success". I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.
ummmmm....:facepalm:
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/ANTHONY-DAVIS2011_150A.JPG)
No sh*t. Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!
so, what do you want? what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?
top 25-ish class would be a success. two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success". I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/28/anthony-davis-bursting-onto-national-scene/
:fatty:
No sh*t. Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!
so, what do you want? what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?
top 25-ish class would be a success. two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success". I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.
Having a team full of 150 players vs. a team with one or two 150 players is "slightly better"?
Are you just not counting Nino as top 150 because of bias?was an odd timing for his bump up, wasn't it.
Northstar hoops blog reporting we offered Boatright, he also seems to have backed off from Miami being his leader.Nice job underdog.
"Aurora East (IL) point guard Ryan Boatright was one of just a handful of players under 6-feet tall at NBPA Top 100 Camp.
Boatright was also one of just a handful of players to average 13 or more points per game, and was the leading scorer amongst the sub 6-footers. Clearly, Boatright’s size is not holding him back, which is evidenced by the types of schools pursuing him. The 5'10, 152-pound point guard holds offers from Miami, Wake Forest, Tennessee, West Virginia, Kansas State, and UTEP were amongst the schools that have offered him. Kentucky is showing interest."
Ryan Boatright ’11, Aurora East (IL): Kentucky, Wake Forest, Tennessee, Miami, UTEP, West Virginia, Kansas State, and
others
Offers: All except Kentucky
Favorites: “No, not really, they are all in the same boat really.”
Note- Boatright committed to USC before his freshman year of high school, but has since decommitted and is not considering the Trojans. He said that he does not regret the commitment, though. To read the full article that I wrote on Boatright for InsideTheU.com, click Here .
http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/06/23/boatright-interested-in-miami.aspx
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/28/anthony-davis-bursting-onto-national-scene/
:fatty:
Nice to be an also ran! :pbj:
“We’re looking at Syracuse, Kentucky and Ohio State,” Anthony Sr. said. “I think those three schools fit perfectly in the style of basketball he plays.”http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/28/anthony-davis-cuts-list-to-3/
lol, didn't last long
top 25-ish class would be a success. two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success". I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.
No sh*t. Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!
so, what do you want? what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?
top 25-ish class would be a success. two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success". I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.
Having a team full of 150 players vs. a team with one or two 150 players is "slightly better"?
I don't think you understand what a "team full of 150 players" looks like:I don't think you know what a "team full of 150 players" means.
Here's the 11-12 scholarship roster as it stands today.
Henriquez-Roberts, Jordan
Irving, Martavious
Judge, Wally
McGruder, Rodney
Russell, Nick
Samuels, Jamar
Southwell, Shane
Asprilla, Freddy
Spradling, Will
Myles, Juevol
Williams, Nino
That's 6 scholarship players that aren't top 150. And only one player is consensus top 100. One! Where do you get this "full of top 150 players" nonsense, sugar dick?
Seriously, a class of a couple top 150's and Nino would look like a class of Clent, Curtis Allen, and Fred Peete. Woo hoo!
lol, didn't last long
not sure i believe his father. weird not to see louisville even listed. was great to get a mention though, even if possibly fake.
i have a hard time understanding how filling 2 of 3 or 3 of 3 ships with top 150s would be considered poor.
He's too ugly for us anyway
I remember when Tai Streets visited the OOD this past season and sys, michigancat, yosh and others were leaving no stone unturned trying to figure out if we were after any Meanstreets prospects. An under the radar stud like AD would have been fantastic but everybody, myself included, would have flipped our crap when he blew up this past Spring and we would have been left out in the cold.
Good luck to @QCook323....wanted to keep it quiet but the entire DM family wish him all the best. STAG forever.
when I asked him if he was going to take visits somewhere other than the three schools Davis said
"Not sure yet."
cook to tranfer to oak hill for his senior year.
tweet from his coach at dematha:QuoteGood luck to @QCook323....wanted to keep it quiet but the entire DM family wish him all the best. STAG forever.
"apparently this was a power play by DC Assault to Dematha"
:surprised:
cook to tranfer to oak hill for his senior year.god. It would solve alot of my future concerns for EMAW basketball at the Point Guard Position!
tweet from his coach at dematha:QuoteGood luck to @QCook323....wanted to keep it quiet but the entire DM family wish him all the best. STAG forever.
"apparently this was a power play by DC Assault to Dematha"
:surprised:
No sh*t. Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!
so, what do you want? what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?
top 25-ish class would be a success. two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success". I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.
Having a team full of 150 players vs. a team with one or two 150 players is "slightly better"?
I don't think you understand what a "team full of 150 players" looks like:I don't think you know what a "team full of 150 players" means.
Here's the 11-12 scholarship roster as it stands today.
Henriquez-Roberts, Jordan
Irving, Martavious
Judge, Wally
McGruder, Rodney
Russell, Nick
Samuels, Jamar
Southwell, Shane
Asprilla, Freddy
Spradling, Will
Myles, Juevol
Williams, Nino
That's 6 scholarship players that aren't top 150. And only one player is consensus top 100. One! Where do you get this "full of top 150 players" nonsense, sugar dick?
Seriously, a class of a couple top 150's and Nino would look like a class of Clent, Curtis Allen, and Fred Peete. Woo hoo!
Kelly won't be on the '11-12 roster dood.
Kelly won't be on the '11-12 roster dood.
I misread your post but i don't think we will go after anyone considered a one and done. Frank is trying to build teams and you can't do that when you have guys leaving after a year. I think these later top 150 players who can become NBA type talent down the road is what we will be after here and out.
This is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)Kelly won't be on the '11-12 roster dood.
I misread your post but i don't think we will go after anyone considered a one and done. Frank is trying to build teams and you can't do that when you have guys leaving after a year. I think these later top 150 players who can become NBA type talent down the road is what we will be after here and out.
Frank is trying to build teams and you can't do that when you have guys leaving after a year.
Frank is trying to build teams and you can't do that when you have guys leaving after a year.
Oh....he went there.
Back it up and walk away. Just walk away from that comment as soon as you can.
lol. pt5000 is my cub of the week. He's destroying.
lol. pt5000 is my cub of the week. He's destroying.
I was excited that it was going to be some fresh GPCer out to kick some goEMAW ass until I found out it was just Bam8485 from ksufans.
lol. pt5000 is my cub of the week. He's destroying.
I was excited that it was going to be some fresh GPCer out to kick some goEMAW ass until I found out it was just Bam8485 from ksufans.
R u my stalker?
Thanks, Bossi!
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2288
:ksu:
lol. pt5000 is my cub of the week. He's destroying.
I was excited that it was going to be some fresh GPCer out to kick some goEMAW ass until I found out it was just Bam8485 from ksufans.
R u my stalker?
Isn't Nino considered a SF?
4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*
Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.
With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson
4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*
Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.
With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson
this
4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*
Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.
With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson
this
With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Yeah, I don't think we'd go wrong either way with Cunningham or Gipson. You have to like the way Cunningham has rocketed up the rankings and it sounds like he can step out and shoot it from distance. He would also provide more versatility on both ends of the floor and probably has more overall upside. I went with Gipson because I always think it's good to have that "enforcer" type on your team who can move people around and be a physical presence in the paint. Having seen the kid person, he's already a beast, and if you introduce him to Mr. Greenawalt, then he could just be a monster. He also has a nicely developing post game and if he can continue to improve in that area, he could be a real threat to score in the paint, not just a bruiser.4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*
Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.
With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson
this
Like it, but I'll sub Gipson for Cunningham.
I like Gipson a lot, but I'd rather have Cunningham's length. But it's not a big difference. I'd love either.
With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
with the pending addition of lawrence, 2011 recruiting just got mind-numbingly boring. eff you, staff.
I may be falling into the kids are begging to come here trap that Frank fell into a few times but I'd rather take my chances with this class.
we'll have nothing to talk about for the rest of the summer. surely everyone can see that.
Based on what I've seen of Rodriguez, he's a mid major type prospect.
Yeah, I don't think we'd go wrong either way with Cunningham or Gipson. You have to like the way Cunningham has rocketed up the rankings and it sounds like he can step out and shoot it from distance. He would also provide more versatility on both ends of the floor and probably has more overall upside. I went with Gipson because I always think it's good to have that "enforcer" type on your team who can move people around and be a physical presence in the paint. Having seen the kid person, he's already a beast, and if you introduce him to Mr. Greenawalt, then he could just be a monster. He also has a nicely developing post game and if he can continue to improve in that area, he could be a real threat to score in the paint, not just a bruiser.4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*
Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.
With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson
this
Like it, but I'll sub Gipson for Cunningham.
I like Gipson a lot, but I'd rather have Cunningham's length. But it's not a big difference. I'd love either.
Quote from: bossiBased on what I've seen of Rodriguez, he's a mid major type prospect.
ouch.
I may be falling into the kids are begging to come here trap that Frank fell into a few times but I'd rather take my chances with this class.
even if no one else wants to come to kstate, if they take him, we'll have nothing to talk about for the rest of the summer. surely everyone can see that.
If Nino gets cleared and we send Omari down the road 2011 recruiting BBS'ing just got taken up a couple notches. :drool:
So do we take nino this year start developing him and say GTFOOMF omari OR
take omari, send nino to a prep school and we're short at the 3 spot this year? Is this the choice we have :dunno: need some HBRIQ here
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-07-05/williams_to_enroll_at_ksu
Meek with the premium info.
Nino to enroll.Quotehttp://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-07-05/williams_to_enroll_at_ksu
Meek with the premium info.LOL at the comment from kansasman regarding it aint over yet on eligibility. If KU can get D. Arthur eligible from the crooked school in Dallas, surely Nino coming out of a Kansas school without prior issues can get through the clearinghouse.
Nino to enroll.Quotehttp://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-07-05/williams_to_enroll_at_ksu
I'm slightly hungover so help me out here. How does this change our numbers for the 2011 class. Assuming Omari is in and then assuming Omari is out.
We lose Kelly and Pullen right? So if Omari comes in we have one ship for 11 and two if he doesn't? That right?
Meek with the premium info.
Nino to enroll.
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-07-05/williams_to_enroll_at_ksu
"Obviously with the Sutton situation, that has changed the whole outlook and has given him an opportunity now to be on the team, which kind of changed overnight," Zeck said. "He's pretty excited. He had to go in and change his whole mindset, from possibly sitting out or redshirting to now having opportunity to play and earn minutes."
I'm slightly hungover so help me out here. How does this change our numbers for the 2011 class. Assuming Omari is in and then assuming Omari is out.
We lose Kelly and Pullen right? So if Omari comes in we have one ship for 11 and two if he doesn't? That right?
Unless we ditch Russel or Irving.
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?
Yeah you have a better chance at passing a breathalyzer than that happening.Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?
What happened to RichConnecticutBoosterCat?
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?
What happened to RichConnecticutBoosterCat?
He was make believe :cry:
The HORROR!!!!!11!!1!1!!He was make believe :cry:What happened to RichConnecticutBoosterCat?pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
The HORROR!!!!!11!!1!1!!He was make believe :cry:What happened to RichConnecticutBoosterCat?pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Clarahan you sly dog! Long time no see.
A 6'6" guy with a center's game? No thanks, we showed one of thse types the door.
Passing a breathalyzer is a stretch (even though the only one I ever took I blew a 0.00), but why is an in-state paying his own way so far fetched? With grants, academic/local scholarships, a good work/study "job", and student loans, it is pretty easy to pay for a year of college for a family of modest means.Yeah you have a better chance at passing a breathalyzer than that happening.Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Passing a breathalyzer is a stretch (even though the only one I ever took I blew a 0.00), but why is an in-state paying his own way so far fetched? With grants, academic/local scholarships, a good work/study "job", and student loans, it is pretty easy to pay for a year of college for a family of modest means.Yeah you have a better chance at passing a breathalyzer than that happening.Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Almost all of you people are retards
DeAngelo Harrison did his best to put his team on his back but fell just short. Put up 47 points in a losing effort for Franchize.
Harrison is refusing to list schools and says that he will re-address his recruitment after July.
Quote from: HardwoodEliteDeAngelo Harrison did his best to put his team on his back but fell just short. Put up 47 points in a losing effort for Franchize.
obvious showboat, bad fit, etc.
not completely clear from the gpc story, but presumably lawrence gets an '11 ship. leaving a single '11 to give.
rpi '11 recruiting fun times.
:cry:
not completely clear from the gpc story, but presumably lawrence gets an '11 ship. leaving a single '11 to give.
rpi '11 recruiting fun times.
:cry:
not completely clear from the gpc story, but presumably lawrence gets an '11 ship. leaving a single '11 to give.
rpi '11 recruiting fun times.
:cry:
Yeah, that sucks...but I have faith that either Irving or the Canada Air Miles get the boot
...leaving only late season lameo recruiting lameness to follow. :cry:
Lawrence fully intends to join the team as a walk-on and attempt to earn a scholarship going forward
...leaving only late season lameo recruiting lameness to follow. :cry:
yeah. spring recruiting is not fun times.
"Jerome Seagears says he has offers from Cincinnati, Rutgers, DePaul, Clemson, Maryland, and Boston College with interest from Arizona and Georgetown."
Apparently we are not worried about getting a PG anytime soon."Jerome Seagears says he has offers from Cincinnati, Rutgers, DePaul, Clemson, Maryland, and Boston College with interest from Arizona and Georgetown."
SHOW MORE INTEREST FRANK!
Apparently we are not worried about getting a PG anytime soon."Jerome Seagears says he has offers from Cincinnati, Rutgers, DePaul, Clemson, Maryland, and Boston College with interest from Arizona and Georgetown."
SHOW MORE INTEREST FRANK!
He's worried that if he shows interest in a player, other coaches will know he's interested in the player and start recruiting them.
what happens though if our coaches (esp Underwood :drink: ) forget which players they're "ignoring" and which players they're ignoring?
also, our beat writers are in on it, obviously, and also must ignore our recruits or face being ignored by frank and Athletic Dept.
Antwan Space, SF, Urban DFW Elite- When you've got his size (near 6-foot-8) and you can shoot the ball like the Desoto (Texas) High wing does, things can pick up in a hurry. After a nice day on Tuesday, he was even better while we watched on Wednesday. He's got a turnaround jumper he will shoot over either shoulder, can create his shot and also plays with some athleticism. Big 12 programs like Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Missouri and Kansas State look poised to join Colorado, Houston and Gonzaga in making moves for him.
what happens though if our coaches (esp Underwood :drink: ) forget which players they're "ignoring" and which players they're ignoring?
also, our beat writers are in on it, obviously, and also must ignore our recruits or face being ignored by frank and Athletic Dept.
QuoteAntwan Space, SF, Urban DFW Elite- When you've got his size (near 6-foot-8) and you can shoot the ball like the Desoto (Texas) High wing does, things can pick up in a hurry. After a nice day on Tuesday, he was even better while we watched on Wednesday. He's got a turnaround jumper he will shoot over either shoulder, can create his shot and also plays with some athleticism. Big 12 programs like Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Missouri and Kansas State look poised to join Colorado, Houston and Gonzaga in making moves for him.
Yeah, the DW connection will no doubt have a strong pull here, when is his jersey going up in the rafters anyway?
QuoteAntwan Space, SF, Urban DFW Elite- When you've got his size (near 6-foot-8) and you can shoot the ball like the Desoto (Texas) High wing does, things can pick up in a hurry. After a nice day on Tuesday, he was even better while we watched on Wednesday. He's got a turnaround jumper he will shoot over either shoulder, can create his shot and also plays with some athleticism. Big 12 programs like Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Missouri and Kansas State look poised to join Colorado, Houston and Gonzaga in making moves for him.
This kid is NICE.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Terran-Petteway-100114 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Terran-Petteway-100114)
Might be too small at SF, although he has a long wingspan.
fresh off jeffrey's revelation that kstate is now looking at taking an '11 big. jack mention.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/09/harkless-rules-out-uconn-jack-stars-at-hoop-group/
fresh off jeffrey's revelation that kstate is now looking at taking an '11 big. jack mention.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/09/harkless-rules-out-uconn-jack-stars-at-hoop-group/
fresh off jeffrey's revelation that kstate is now looking at taking an '11 big. jack mention.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/09/harkless-rules-out-uconn-jack-stars-at-hoop-group/
Didn't he play with Southwell? Same Jack?
ebosshoops - Cannen Cunningham drawing Frank Martin, Tad Boyle and assts from Texas, Mizzou, Arizona State, gonzaga, Texas A&M and others.
The Franchize All-Starz are clearly one of the most talented teams on the circuit, [db]D'Angelo Harrison[/db] is one prospect that garners a lot of attention. The scoring guard is proving to be an absolute sniper from the outside, and he keeps racking up huge numbers in July.
Franchize played two games on Saturday, one against the Mac Irvin Fire and the other against Meanstreets. Both Chicago based teams were ready for Harrison and what he could do, but neither could come even close to stopping him.
Harrison has a natural ability to make shots. His coach gives him a green light to shoot when he feels necessary, and Harrison takes advantage of that by getting bucket after bucket. What Harrison does best is knock in shots from deep, and that is what he did in a big way on Saturday.
Most impressively Harrison makes shots without much help from his teammates. His pull-up three pointer off the dribble can be money, but also in catch and shoot situations he is just as lethal. While shooting the ball from deep is what he does best, Harrison also makes sure to attack the rim using his quickness.
While Harrison doesn't have the best handle for a guard, it is still above average, and his natural quickness allows him to beat his man and get into the lane. Once in the lane he knows how to creatively finish over taller players by using a floater or simply going all the way to the rim and scoring with a strong move.
In both games on Saturday, Harrison was well over 30 points, and each time Franchize really looked to him during the key moments of the game.
Quoteebosshoops - Cannen Cunningham drawing Frank Martin, Tad Boyle and assts from Texas, Mizzou, Arizona State, gonzaga, Texas A&M and others.
Quoteebosshoops - Cannen Cunningham drawing Frank Martin, Tad Boyle and assts from Texas, Mizzou, Arizona State, gonzaga, Texas A&M and others.
If twitter would have been around at that time, would JW, TA, and DA been mentioned when they were at an event? Hell, would have they been even recognized at an event? Or even invited?
Quoteebosshoops - Cannen Cunningham drawing Frank Martin, Tad Boyle and assts from Texas, Mizzou, Arizona State, gonzaga, Texas A&M and others.
If twitter would have been around at that time, would JW, TA, and DA been mentioned when they were at an event? Hell, would have they been even recognized at an event? Or even invited?
Carolina head coach Roy Williams watched the 6-foot-10, 195-pound Chicago Perspectives forward put up 18 points, 7 rebounds, 5 steals and 4 blocks in a 55-34 blowout victory Monday over Team Florida here at the Peach Jam.
wow, just destroyed.Wow that is thin.QuoteCarolina head coach Roy Williams watched the 6-foot-10, 195-pound Chicago Perspectives forward put up 18 points, 7 rebounds, 5 steals and 4 blocks in a 55-34 blowout victory Monday over Team Florida here at the Peach Jam.
don't know why zagoria called mean streets chicago perspectives. he's weird.
- Coach Martin was in the Dallas area this past weekend to check out several prospects at the Great American Shootout AAU tourney. Per a tweet from Eric Bossi, Martin was front and center to catch Cannen Cunningham in action. Cunningham had 17 and 11 for the BB Elite in a loss to the Galveston Hornets. Commentary from Bossi regarding Cunningham and another big we've been reported to be in close contact with, Thomas Gipson, pasted below:
"Cannen Cunningham, PF, Brandon Bass Elite- A thin, face-up four man, Cunningham moves with fluidity, has great hands and can really run the floor. He likes to catch on the baseline, square up his man and attack off of the dribble. A bonus is that he's a very good shooter and has legitimate range to the three point line. Overall, a productive guy but he's going to have to get much stronger and college coaches watching him indicated that they would like to see him compete a bit harder."
"Thomas Gipson, PF, Texas Bluechips- Gipson played the way he always does, with physicality and effort. A brute around the rim, he uses his long arms and desire to outwork guys on the glass and make them uncomfortable. An in the paint guy all the way, his ability to keep competing has helped him out."
- Martin was also there checking out 6'4" 205 '12 wing prospect Marcus Smart(Flower Mound, TX). Smart is a consensus Top 50 player in that class and some recruitniks think he has the potential to be a Top 10 guy if he can keep growing which would put at a more suitable size for his natural SF position. KSU, Baylor, and Marquette are reported to be the schools showing the most interest right now. Along with Torian Graham, that makes 2 Top 100 wings that our staff is known to be aggressively pursuing at this time.
"For the past couple of months, Marcus Smart has been on the shelf while he recovered from surgery. Saturday, the 6-foot-3 guard from Flower Mound (Texas) Marcus showed little, if any, signs of rust as he authored a virtuoso performance during a tough loss to the Houston Hoopstars.
Powerfully built, the junior to be is an intensely competitive guy who would probably run over his own mother for an important rebound. However, he's also pretty skilled with the ball. He ran the point for large stretches of the game and is armed with a devastating crossover and outstanding court vision.
While not in the mold of a high flyer, he's a strong kid who rebounds the ball at a ridiculous clip and defends. Bottom line, he's a guy that makes plays and he's totally and completely about winning.
He indicated that Kansas State, Baylor and Marquette were the three schools that had been the most aggressive with him and they all had head coaches on hand to see him Saturday."
- Moving back to the Class of '11, D'Angelo Harrison has continued his tear accross the AAU circuit. He put 47 in 1 game(33 in the 2nd half) at the Adidas Invitational last week and the follwoing excerpt is from a tourney that took place in the Chicago area this past weekend:
The Franchize All-Starz are clearly one of the most talented teams on the circuit, D'Angelo Harrison is one prospect that garners a lot of attention. The scoring guard is proving to be an absolute sniper from the outside, and he keeps racking up huge numbers in July.
Franchize played two games on Saturday, one against the Mac Irvin Fire and the other against Meanstreets. Both Chicago based teams were ready for Harrison and what he could do, but neither could come even close to stopping him.
Harrison has a natural ability to make shots. His coach gives him a green light to shoot when he feels necessary, and Harrison takes advantage of that by getting bucket after bucket. What Harrison does best is knock in shots from deep, and that is what he did in a big way on Saturday.
Most impressively Harrison makes shots without much help from his teammates. His pull-up three pointer off the dribble can be money, but also in catch and shoot situations he is just as lethal. While shooting the ball from deep is what he does best, Harrison also makes sure to attack the rim using his quickness.
While Harrison doesn't have the best handle for a guard, it is still above average, and his natural quickness allows him to beat his man and get into the lane. Once in the lane he knows how to creatively finish over taller players by using a floater or simply going all the way to the rim and scoring with a strong move.
In both games on Saturday, Harrison was well over 30 points, and each time Franchize really looked to him during the key moments of the game."
- Not to be outdone, Jerome Seagears, also played well at the Adidas Invitational and pasted below is a report on his game. Interestingly, there were 2 separate recruiting updates from Seagears last week, 1 from a national reporter and 1 from the Arizona Rivals site, and neither mentioned KSU. I hope that was an oversight:
"A jet quick point guard, Seagears can get overshadowed at times during the summer by his running mate Quinn Cook, but with Cook representing the USA in Germany, it is Seagers chance to run the show and he is making the most of it.
Seagears is a 6-foot-1 and loves to push the ball with pace, but he is more than just fast, he knows how to play. Against Brookwood, Seagears made solid decisions with the basketball, got his teammates involved, and also ran the show. More than anything though he flat out had it working from the field.
Scoring is something that comes naturally for Seagers and it is because he can do it in so many ways. Seagears is excellent in using ball screens, especially going to his right, and when he does get the screen he is threat to either get a paint touch off the drive or shoot it from deep. Either way it often resulted in a bucket. Also Seagears used the step back jumper as a weapon, and it was his performance that got D.C. Assault the victory."
martin, and perhaps another kstate coach are at the ny2la tourney in wisconsin.
teams playing include: mokan, pray & play (formerly ks players), franchize as and kingdom hoops.
martin, and perhaps another kstate coach are at the ny2la tourney in wisconsin.
teams playing include: mokan, pray & play (formerly ks players), franchize as and kingdom hoops.
Wisconsin? Does anyone who is EVER good at basketball play in Wisconsin? Is this some kind of church league that Frank is trying to find good "fit" players at or what, I just think he should be in brooklyn or houston or something, maybe at least Minneapolis... :dunno:
Tenn, Louisville, Kansas, Kansas State, St. John's, Miami, Notre Dame, Cincinnati all checking out Celtics and Pray and Play.
Dream Vision vs. Franchize coming up. Lorenzo Romar, Rick Pitino and assistants from Marquette, Tennessee, Kansas, Indiana, UCLA, Cincinnati
Frank Martin just joined the party as well.
martin, and perhaps another kstate coach are at the ny2la tourney in wisconsin.
teams playing include: mokan, pray & play (formerly ks players), franchize as and kingdom hoops.
Wisconsin? Does anyone who is EVER good at basketball play in Wisconsin? Is this some kind of church league that Frank is trying to find good "fit" players at or what, I just think he should be in brooklyn or houston or something, maybe at least Minneapolis... :dunno:
He's a 12 now right?
He's a 12 now right?
No, he was orignally a '10 but decided to reclassify to '11 and go to prep school to improve his game and earn better offers(waiting on the EMAW offer no doubt :nono:).
If you're able to read his Rivals updates, it was really a pretty interesting saga regarding his decision to reclassify to '11.
Currently ranked 82nd nationally by Rivals in '11, profile linked below.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Kadeem-Jack-84080
So we have to boot someone else to take him in 11? or do we have 1 left for 11? sorry.
odds we end up taking 3 in 11': 80% (if not higher)
if we have 3 scholarships available:
Omari gets a scholly: 75%
that scholly goes to someone else: 25%
if we only have 2 available:
odds Omari gets a scholly: 40%
that scholly goes to someone else:60%
odds we end up taking 3 in 11': 80% (if not higher)
if we have 3 scholarships available:
Omari gets a scholly: 75%
that scholly goes to someone else: 25%
if we only have 2 available:
odds Omari gets a scholly: 40%
that scholly goes to someone else:60%
I cannot see any potential scenario where Frank does not put Omari on scholly.
I cannot see any potential scenario where Frank does not put Omari on scholly.
Yeah he seems like the type that could get caught up in the Manhattan lifestyle and stop caring so much for catsketball.I cannot see any potential scenario where Frank does not put Omari on scholly.
He sucks and/or is team cancer (hard-to-beat type) and/or is still fat and goes the way of Abdul, Buchi and the funny guy. :dunno:
I guess you probably mean there's no way he continues on EMAW as a walk-on, but I think my scenario has a fair possibilty of coming true.
odds we end up taking 3 in 11': 80% (if not higher)
if we have 3 scholarships available:
Omari gets a scholly: 75%
that scholly goes to someone else: 25%
if we only have 2 available:
odds Omari gets a scholly: 40%
that scholly goes to someone else:60%
I cannot see any potential scenario where Frank does not put Omari on scholly.
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be :barf:
So we have to boot someone else to take him in 11? or do we have 1 left for 11? sorry.
there is 1 'ship left for '11, assuming lawrence gets an '11 ship. however, jeffrey has indicated that the staff is looking at taking two.
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be :barf:
Frank scouting Diaz in person:
"Diaz watched by some big teams: Word is getting out even more about 7-foot center Adrian Diaz of Gold Coast with Kansas State's Frank Martin and Florida State assistant Andy Enfield just two of the coaches keeping an eye on Court 2 Wednesday evening.
Diaz, from Hialeah (Fla.) Hialeah-Miami Lakes, was much better Tuesday night than Wednesday but still showed some of the skills that have set him apart in this tournament - good passing from the post, running the floor well in transition and the ability to alter and block shots."
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103034
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be :barf:
i'm guessing he'll be about as good as gpc thinks irving was.
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be :barf:
i'm guessing he'll be about as good as gpc thinks irving was.
I hold out hope that he becomes a solid role player, but then I think about the fact that I don't want my point guard to be a role player, and I get all :ohno:.
I'm still all :crossfingers: though.
Frank scouting Diaz in person:
"Diaz watched by some big teams: Word is getting out even more about 7-foot center Adrian Diaz of Gold Coast with Kansas State's Frank Martin and Florida State assistant Andy Enfield just two of the coaches keeping an eye on Court 2 Wednesday evening.
Diaz, from Hialeah (Fla.) Hialeah-Miami Lakes, was much better Tuesday night than Wednesday but still showed some of the skills that have set him apart in this tournament - good passing from the post, running the floor well in transition and the ability to alter and block shots."
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103034
"Diaz"...so we should be a lock on this kid right? Que?
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be :barf:
i'm guessing he'll be about as good as gpc thinks irving was.
I hold out hope that he becomes a solid role player, but then I think about the fact that I don't want my point guard to be a role player, and I get all :ohno:.
I'm still all :crossfingers: though.
Wasn't he just a solid role player for his AAU and then Juco? Seems unlikely he does better at the D1 level than he did there, you know?
Late bloomer?If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be :barf:
i'm guessing he'll be about as good as gpc thinks irving was.
I hold out hope that he becomes a solid role player, but then I think about the fact that I don't want my point guard to be a role player, and I get all :ohno:.
I'm still all :crossfingers: though.
Wasn't he just a solid role player for his AAU and then Juco? Seems unlikely he does better at the D1 level than he did there, you know?
Already stocked with guards, Frank Martin's staff turns its attention to forwards: http://tinyurl.com/34zko8l #Kstate
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Already stocked with guards, Frank Martin's staff turns its attention to forwards: http://tinyurl.com/34zko8l #Kstate
Anyone recap if this is old info on Cunningham?
We magically reappeared on Seagears' list, if there was an emoticon for "sigh of relief", I would post that here.
"Jerome Seagears is catching the most interest from Kansas State, Clemson, DePaul, Maryland, Rutgers, and North Carolina State."
FWIW, Seagears was named 3rd team All tourney at the Best Buy Summer Classic held in Minnie the past few days.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103861
i was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol
most definally man. love k state
Heard from a VERY close source to the DC Assault program that Seagears might be as good as Cook. Not kidding. He just said Jerome is flying under the radar big time because of Quinn.:love:
I sent J.S. a message on facebook, here was his response:
Me:Quotei was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol
Jerome:Quotemost definally man. love k state
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Heard from a VERY close source to the DC Assault program that Seagears might be as good as Cook. Not kidding. He just said Jerome is flying under the radar big time because of Quinn.Way to pick up the slack
I sent J.S. a message on facebook, here was his response:
Me:Quotei was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol
Jerome:Quotemost definally man. love k state
This goEMAW.com recruiting update was brought to you by Pett.
Heard from a VERY close source to the DC Assault program that Seagears might be as good as Cook. Not kidding. He just said Jerome is flying under the radar big time because of Quinn.Way to pick up the slack
I sent J.S. a message on facebook, here was his response:
Me:Quotei was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol
Jerome:Quotemost definally man. love k state
This goEMAW.com recruiting update was brought to you by Pett.
Heard from a VERY close source to the DC Assault program that Seagears might be as good as Cook. Not kidding. He just said Jerome is flying under the radar big time because of Quinn.
I sent J.S. a message on facebook, here was his response:
Me:Quotei was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol
Jerome:Quotemost definally man. love k state
This goEMAW.com recruiting update was brought to you by Pett.
So are we going to offer Seagears?
So are we going to offer Seagears?
If so, assuming Lawrence goes on scholarship, we've got one to give in 2011.
Unless we don't give him a scholarship and/or run someone off. Then we get two to use.
Cunningham and Seagears maybe?
So are we going to offer Seagears?
If so, assuming Lawrence goes on scholarship, we've got one to give in 2011.
Unless we don't give him a scholarship and/or run someone off. Then we get two to use.
Cunningham and Seagears maybe?
Ya, has to be a Big and a Pointish guard, doesn't it?
If we don't get a good PG I will throw up
I keep hoping lack of updates from Rodriguez means he's not in the fold.
If we don't get a good PG I will throw up
"Duke hasn't offered yet, but they are on me pretty hard," said Cook, who will attend Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Academy this year. "Coach K has called me a couple times recently, and Coach (Nate) James has been to all my games and even came to Germany to watch me. They are supposed to be at all my games in Las Vegas, too.
Along with Duke and North Carolina, Cook listed Villanova, Arizona, UCLA, Connecticut, Georgetown, West Virginia, Wake Forest and St. John's as his schools of interest. All of those schools have offered Cook.
Cook updateQuote"Duke hasn't offered yet, but they are on me pretty hard," said Cook, who will attend Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Academy this year. "Coach K has called me a couple times recently, and Coach (Nate) James has been to all my games and even came to Germany to watch me. They are supposed to be at all my games in Las Vegas, too.
Along with Duke and North Carolina, Cook listed Villanova, Arizona, UCLA, Connecticut, Georgetown, West Virginia, Wake Forest and St. John's as his schools of interest. All of those schools have offered Cook.
Seagears & Harrison: '11 'cruit class :pray: :crossfingers: :love: :ksu:Would be elite.
Seagears & Harrison: '11 'cruit class :pray: :crossfingers: :love: :ksu:Would be elite.
Have we offered harrison? Last time i checked rivals.com it said we have not offered.
Next season will be Harrison’s last before he departs for a Division I college. He has received scholarship offers from Kansas State, Texas A&M, Arizona State, Arkansas and Oklahoma State among others. At this point, he said, Kansas State and Texas A&M are at the top of his list.
Doubt we get either.
Cook updateQuote"Duke hasn't offered yet, but they are on me pretty hard," said Cook, who will attend Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Academy this year. "Coach K has called me a couple times recently, and Coach (Nate) James has been to all my games and even came to Germany to watch me. They are supposed to be at all my games in Las Vegas, too.
Along with Duke and North Carolina, Cook listed Villanova, Arizona, UCLA, Connecticut, Georgetown, West Virginia, Wake Forest and St. John's as his schools of interest. All of those schools have offered Cook.
Does dobbie ever post at this new place ya got here? If not, you should really think about inviting that melon-headed son of a bitch to join in so he can help with these recruiting battles. If you want to win a war, your army needs to have a killer general. Dude is a whiz. And not a creep.I'm back bitches, and I am not afraid to look into anything that is what makes me the best recruiter (that's not really a recruiter) of all time
:comehere: :comehere: :comehere:
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20super%20elite%20showcase%2010%20all%20stars.html
do you cruiting xperts really think that we're going to get anyone good in 11?
KCPREPHOOPS
2011 Anthony Davis of Meanstreets is big, tough and explosive - May be best player in KC this week. Apparently great student too
Each 1 Teach 1 vs. Houston Hoops. So is Kansas (Self), Mississippi State, Kansas State, Florida, Austin Peay, LSU and many more
Another possible big for '11 but 1st JC prospect I'm aware of(Can we really count Widgett Washington?), played his FR yr at Cowley Co and followed Eck to Hutch where he redshirted last yr. Xavier, Cincy, and Indiana have all been named as being in heavy pursuit of him prior to this update.
"Robert Goff, PF, Hutchinson CC- Likely the top big man prospect in the junior college ranks, the Indianapolis native has really made strides under head coach Steve Eck. Explosive off the floor, he rises above the crowd for backboard shaking dunks, runs the floor and contests shots around the rim. Love the way he finishes with either hand. Among those involved or looking to be are Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, South Florida, Alabama and Oregon."
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106072
QuoteEach 1 Teach 1 vs. Houston Hoops. So is Kansas (Self), Mississippi State, Kansas State, Florida, Austin Peay, LSU and many more
northstar tweet.
had to check, 'cause i couldn't think of any e1t1 or hh players that kstate recruits. apparently, they have recruited jonathan holton of e1t1 some. could also indicate a new name.
We're making a run at Austin Rivers! :powerespect:QuoteEach 1 Teach 1 vs. Houston Hoops. So is Kansas (Self), Mississippi State, Kansas State, Florida, Austin Peay, LSU and many more
northstar tweet.
had to check, 'cause i couldn't think of any e1t1 or hh players that kstate recruits. apparently, they have recruited jonathan holton of e1t1 some. could also indicate a new name.
per northstar, kstate is watching e1t1 vs westchester hawks today.
Another possible big for '11 but 1st JC prospect I'm aware of(Can we really count Widgett Washington?), played his FR yr at Cowley Co and followed Eck to Hutch where he redshirted last yr. Xavier, Cincy, and Indiana have all been named as being in heavy pursuit of him prior to this update.
"Robert Goff, PF, Hutchinson CC- Likely the top big man prospect in the junior college ranks, the Indianapolis native has really made strides under head coach Steve Eck. Explosive off the floor, he rises above the crowd for backboard shaking dunks, runs the floor and contests shots around the rim. Love the way he finishes with either hand. Among those involved or looking to be are Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, South Florida, Alabama and Oregon."
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106072
Another possible big for '11 but 1st JC prospect I'm aware of(Can we really count Widgett Washington?), played his FR yr at Cowley Co and followed Eck to Hutch where he redshirted last yr. Xavier, Cincy, and Indiana have all been named as being in heavy pursuit of him prior to this update.
"Robert Goff, PF, Hutchinson CC- Likely the top big man prospect in the junior college ranks, the Indianapolis native has really made strides under head coach Steve Eck. Explosive off the floor, he rises above the crowd for backboard shaking dunks, runs the floor and contests shots around the rim. Love the way he finishes with either hand. Among those involved or looking to be are Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, South Florida, Alabama and Oregon."
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106072
So I know nobody wants this guy because we have too many '09 players on our roster but say what if Judge goes pro after this year (30/70 chance in my eyes). This kid looks to have Judge-ish upside, but I read he didn't start getting serious about playing basketball until he was a sophomore and still got offers from Indiana and Purdue out of high school.
Anyway, I went to his Facebook page and somehow his cell phone number wasn't hidden so I texted him. (I know that's 42's job but wth)
Me: Hey r u being recruited by kstate?
RG: Yea I am being recruited by them
Me: Alright thanks keep working hard and maybe you'll get an offer and by the way manhattan is a million times better than hutch. Good luck this yr
RG: Lol thanks
:gocho:
Thanks, pretty sad that I subscribe to GPC and I know more about bball recruiting than the staff over there.
Like Gold Coast. Austin Keel is mid major. Jonathan Holton could be a HM out of necessity and Adrian Diaz is a prospect
Lack of bigs in 2011 has guys perplexed. "it's not if he's good enough it's what can u tolerate and can u make him better?"
QuoteLack of bigs in 2011 has guys perplexed. "it's not if he's good enough it's what can u tolerate and can u make him better?"
don't fall into the trap of tolerating players, staff.
QuoteLack of bigs in 2011 has guys perplexed. "it's not if he's good enough it's what can u tolerate and can u make him better?"
don't fall into the trap of tolerating players, staff.
for me, it's cunningham, jack or bust. i don't want mergerson, i don't want holton, i don't want diaz. i'm borderline on gipson. we really need some more height.
It's Jack, Goff or bust.
It's Jack, Goff or bust.
:lol:
It's Jack, Goff or bust.
:lol:
Just squirted milk through my nose
It's Jack, Goff or bust.
:lol:
Just squirted milk through my nose
Just because Goff is juco doesn't mean he's suck, maybe sucks at life, but not at basketball.
Cunningham is probably a good option but reports say he's passive.
At the guard spot, I think we all reeallly want Seagears.
It's Jack, Goff or bust.
:lol:
Sounds like we're making a strong push for Diaz:
"Adrian Diaz has offers from Kansas State, North Florida, High Point and Virginia Tech. Florida State, Miami, Virginia, and Alabama are looking."
"Adrian Diaz, C, Gold Coast: Diaz has something many colleges covet: size. Pushing 6-11, he’s got athleticism and finishes plays at the rim. His body is one strength and conditioning coaches yearn to mold as he can be a strong presence down the road. Most is his offense comes at the rim and he’s a guy big schools have to seriously consider."
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/987382.html
"Big man Adrian Diaz from Florida will be making a push for the rankings because of his size and emerging offensive game. Word on the street is that Kansas State is the behind the scenes leader and will be quite tough to beat."
(Still no Rivals profile for AD yet though)
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107398
It's Jack, Goff or bust.
:lol:
Just squirted milk through my nose
Just because Goff is juco doesn't mean he's suck, maybe sucks at life, but not at basketball.
Cunningham is probably a good option but reports say he's passive.
At the guard spot, I think we all reeallly want Seagears.
I don't think you were really shooting for the pun here. Too bad.
But seriously, it's Seagears & Harrison for this year. Save the bigs for next.
It's Jack, Goff or bust.
:lol:
Just squirted milk through my nose
Just because Goff is juco doesn't mean he's suck, maybe sucks at life, but not at basketball.
Cunningham is probably a good option but reports say he's passive.
At the guard spot, I think we all reeallly want Seagears.
I don't think you were really shooting for the pun here. Too bad.
But seriously, it's Seagears & Harrison for this year. Save the bigs for next.
Let me make myself clear here bozo. I was referring to treysolid's post regarding which bigs he would take.
I'm with you guys, I would take Seagears and Harrison before anybody else.
But IF Judge would go pro, which would take a heck of a season, then we need a big i.e. Jack, Goff, Cunningham, and whoever else comes out of the woodwork.
It's Jack, Goff or bust.
:lol:
Just squirted milk through my nose
Just because Goff is juco doesn't mean he's suck, maybe sucks at life, but not at basketball.
Cunningham is probably a good option but reports say he's passive.
At the guard spot, I think we all reeallly want Seagears.
I don't think you were really shooting for the pun here. Too bad.
But seriously, it's Seagears & Harrison for this year. Save the bigs for next.
Let me make myself clear here bozo. I was referring to treysolid's post regarding which bigs he would take.
I'm with you guys, I would take Seagears and Harrison before anybody else.
But IF Judge would go pro, which would take a heck of a season, then we need a big i.e. Jack, Goff, Cunningham, and whoever else comes out of the woodwork.
Not laughing at Goff. Don't know anything about him really. We're all laughing at the play on words. If you put "Jack, Goff" in that sequence on purpose, then you should take a well-deserved bow. If not, then this is the UPOW*. :thumbsup:
**unintentional post of the week
The matchup is Hoop Heaven Heat (NJ) vs. K Lightning (FL..basically Dr. Krop HS).... For Lightning, Angel Rodriguez has 12 (2 3s). HHH down 30-23 at the half.
Miami and Kansas State watching KL.
Alabama (Grant) and Florida are here too.
KL is basically Dr. Krop HS. Rodriguez has been good.
:surprised:Quote from: special, just-for-sys tweetKL is basically Dr. Krop HS. Rodriguez has been good.
:surprised:Quote from: special, just-for-sys tweetKL is basically Dr. Krop HS. Rodriguez has been good.
EvanDanielscout This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot
QuoteEvanDanielscout This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot
QuoteEvanDanielscout This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot
QuoteEvanDanielscout This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot
bossi tweeted something nice too.
nbe has a premium report from northstar re. jack's school list. hopefully zagoria takes it public soon.
QuoteEvanDanielscout This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot
Too many NYC kids but the ones we have are really nice kids, kinda surprised.
force's essay brings up a great point: martin was never a point. :runaway:
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107996
Who is Adrian Diaz?
:bball:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5148.0
Diaz's AAU coach says he could list 20 schools with interest in his most-recruited commodity, a player holding offers from Miami, Virginia Tech, Florida International, Central Florida and South Florida and strong interest from Syracuse, Alabama and a host of others.
Who is Adrian Diaz?
:bball:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5148.0
Who is Adrian Diaz?
:bball:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5148.0
An athletic big man who runs the floor well and is also a threat from behind the 3-point arc
JHR can't run.
Quote from: Jerry Meyer about DiazAn athletic big man who runs the floor well and is also a threat from behind the 3-point arc
:surprised:
Jack is fully qualified. Given the fact that we have 3 former HS teammates of Jack on our current roster and his skills and athleticism are more college ready than Diaz, I would have liked to see us ride out Jack's recruitment a while longer. I guess it's not officially over, but I really don't see taking 2 bigs in the fall.
"Usually when a student-athlete attends a prep school that has major D-I offers it is due to an academic issue. This is not the case for Jack, who is in good academic standing. He simply made a decision to attend prep school for basketball purposes.
"I'm just trying to hone my skills next year and I thought it would be best to do it at South Kent," said Jack. "That is pretty much my focus."
http://cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1081508
Jack is fully qualified. Given the fact that we have 3 former HS teammates of Jack on our current roster and his skills and athleticism are more college ready than Diaz, I would have liked to see us ride out Jack's recruitment a while longer. I guess it's not officially over, but I really don't see taking 2 bigs in the fall.
"Usually when a student-athlete attends a prep school that has major D-I offers it is due to an academic issue. This is not the case for Jack, who is in good academic standing. He simply made a decision to attend prep school for basketball purposes.
"I'm just trying to hone my skills next year and I thought it would be best to do it at South Kent," said Jack. "That is pretty much my focus."
http://cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1081508
Who sits out a year on purpose?
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4487595
Diaz commit.
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4487595
Diaz commit.
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Thanks that was what I was going for!http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4487595
Diaz commit.
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To be fair, he was the first person to actually post it in the appropriate thread...
Seagears back to not mentioing KSU, doesn't sound like our staff made it a priority to watch him during the live period:
"Some of the teams I saw at our games were Miami, UCLA, Duke, West Virginia, Virginia, NC State, Rutgers, DePaul, Cincinnati, and Clemson. There were even more teams than that, but those were some of the ones I noticed."
"Definitely West Virginia, Rutgers, DePaul, Cincinnati, and Arizona are up there," he said. "Those would be the top five right now. They've all offered me. I wouldn't say I have a favorite. I'm still neutral.
"It's still open, but I'm thinking of narrowing it down within this month to about seven or eight schools."
http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/988251.html
Sprads, you are our only hope....shazbot!
Sprads, you are our only hope....shazbot!
Frank has said Sprads is as good as Jake.
Scout had Pullen listed as the #36 SG. They have Spradling listed as the #36 PG.
Frank has said Sprads is as good as Jake.
frank can sound like a real dipshit at times.
Frank has said Sprads is as good as Jake.frank can sound like a real dipshit at times.
keep in mind our moron fan base is largely incapable of understanding compound sentences.
Frank has said Sprads is as good as Jake.frank can sound like a real dipshit at times.
keep in mind our moron fan base is largely incapable of understanding compound sentences.
RT @ebosshoops: #SCOOP- Thomas Gipson '11 has committed to Kansas State per my man Glenn Smith at DFW Hoops
QuoteRT @ebosshoops: #SCOOP- Thomas Gipson '11 has committed to Kansas State per my man Glenn Smith at DFW Hoops
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys
I like lefty post players.
And while I'm not so sure about Diaz, this kid looks like he could develop into a player. JMHO.
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys
I like lefty post players.
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys
I like lefty post players.
Seibrandt.
Harrison and Seagars!!!!!!!!
Harrison and Seagars!!!!!!!!
Harrison and Seagars!!!!!!!!
I doubt we will only sign 2 in the 11 class.
ron anderson v. 2.0 :dunno: but with better offers
i think i'm going to shoot myself. jfc.
lriq here someone please answer the following question... if we offer these kids and they give verbal commitment can we back out on our end of the deal without the letter of intent being signed?
lriq here someone please answer the following question... if we offer these kids and they give verbal commitment can we back out on our end of the deal without the letter of intent being signed?
i think i'm going to shoot myself. jfc.
i think i'm going to shoot myself. jfc.
Serious question. Does sys really know what he's ever talking about?
For what it's worth, Gipson only gave a "soft verbal" according to Rivals. Diaz gave us a "solid verbal".
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329
i think i'm going to shoot myself. jfc.
Because this guy sucks, that he's a big, or because of him filling a spot? Be specific.
Well, so much for my "only 1 big in the fall" theory!
And I guess we're intending to oversign in the fall here? :dunno:
I like what I've read about Gipson, a physical low post banger who works his ass off but, man, him AND Diaz in the same class? I gotta wonder if Diaz is not a serious candidate to go to prep and reclassify.
I asked Bossi on GPC if he'd seen anything recently to change his eval of Gipson("Big 12 niche, MW ass kicker) but don't think he's going to bite.
I'm glad the kid has chosen to be a Wildcat but my gut reaction is we're taking this "we may suck at basketball but we're going to outwork your ass" schtick a little too seriously.
i think i'm going to shoot myself. jfc.
Because this guy sucks, that he's a big, or because of him filling a spot? Be specific.
I firmly belive Russell will be the PG and surprise people.
I firmly belive Russell will be the PG and surprise people.
For what it's worth, Gipson only gave a "soft verbal" according to Rivals. Diaz gave us a "solid verbal".
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329
Where are you getting the "soft" verbal from? His profile simply reads "Committed", the story on GPC makes it sound like he's solid, and Bossi also confirmed it on GPC.
Not trying to stir crap up, I just don't see the "soft" part anywhere.
I firmly belive Russell will be the PG and surprise people.
7. If you could tell people one thing about you that you wish they knew, what would it be?
When I was a kid, we lived on 19 acres, took care of 100 acres of land that had 75 cattle on it. I would ride on the tractor with my mom…You wouldn’t believe it!
For what it's worth, Gipson only gave a "soft verbal" according to Rivals. Diaz gave us a "solid verbal".
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329
Where are you getting the "soft" verbal from? His profile simply reads "Committed", the story on GPC makes it sound like he's solid, and Bossi also confirmed it on GPC.
Not trying to stir crap up, I just don't see the "soft" part anywhere.
Follow the link. Upper right corner by the powercat logo. "Commitment Status:"
Probably meaningless. Just thought I'd throw that out there
i think i'm going to shoot myself. jfc.
Because this guy sucks, that he's a big, or because of him filling a spot? Be specific.
i like gipson. think he's better than his rating, actually. the idea of not getting a guard in the '11 class makes me physically ill.
steve dave? comment?
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gipson isn't a bad get.
i think i'm going to shoot myself. jfc.
Because this guy sucks, that he's a big, or because of him filling a spot? Be specific.
i like gipson. think he's better than his rating, actually. the idea of not getting a guard in the '11 class makes me physically ill.
I like him too. And I wouldn't be anti-Diaz except for the fact that we have a legitimate shot at Harrison and/or Seagears. Could've been a special class, small as it is.
I haven't been able to find any evidence of the existence of a mid range jump shot from Gipson at all. Scott should be able to make him one of the most physical players in the league though. Any reports on wing span or jumping ability?
I haven't been able to find any evidence of the existence of a mid range jump shot from Gipson at all. Scott should be able to make him one of the most physical players in the league though. Any reports on wing span or jumping ability?
Is it to out of line to compare this guy to Dejuan Blair.:peek:
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?
normal 'ship distribution is 8 backcourt, 5 frontcourt. martin may be happy with his guards (must be?), as fans we have no reason to agree with him. other than mcgruder, they either sucked last year, or have never played.
Why 8 ships for 2 spots and 5 ships for 3 spots?
I asked Bossi on GPC if he'd seen anything recently to change his eval of Gipson("Big 12 niche, MW ass kicker") but don't think he's going to bite.
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?
Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is. And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman. Neither was Denis or Pullen. Gruds is going to be a stud. We'll see how the point shakes out.
Why 8 ships for 2 spots and 5 ships for 3 spots?
sf=wing=backcourt.
sf=wing=backcourt.
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?
Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is. And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman. Neither was Denis or Pullen. Gruds is going to be a stud. We'll see how the point shakes out.
"Lawrence expects the conversation to take place in the next couple days, but warned that nothing, as it relates to his imminent transfer, will be certain until the conclusion of that call. Even still, the sophomore says he already has an idea of what his role on the team will be should he, as expected, find himself in a purple jersey.
"Since I'm a slasher, they want me to be versatile and get to the basket," Lawrence said. "I'll just be a playing that off guard."
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1099063
Southwell is not a guard at the DI level, he's an SF with above average handling and passing skills for that position. Just because he played PG in HS doesn't mean that translates to DI ball.
Pullen and Clemente both came out of HS with reputations as big-time scorers and we're projected to do that at the next level and they both absolutely lived up to that billing, guys that can score off the bounce or off the catch. Which one of these guys is projected as being a scoring combo guard?
I certainly do expect McGruder to develop into a scorer but he's more of a wing and it will not be his role to create off the dribble.
I always thought that it was 1,2= back court and 3,4,5= front court. :dunno:
Hi, everyone. I'd like to welcome everyone to the Elite Eight won't automatically get us Blue Chips train.
Ironically, I'm pretty happy with Gipson assuming we send Diaz to Cloud or something.
His most recent highlights, from the KC Classic
http://www.prepforce.com/videos/183/thomas-gipson-highlights-from-the-kc-classic.html (http://www.prepforce.com/videos/183/thomas-gipson-highlights-from-the-kc-classic.html)
Hi, everyone. I'd like to welcome everyone to the Elite Eight won't automatically get us Blue Chips train.
stfu, martin never let us find out.
I'm pretty sure he let you find out when he offered Diaz. (assuming he's not sending him to cloud)
I think everyone here got spoiled by Clemente and Pullen. We need low-post scorers to compete with KU. That's absolutely what killed us in the tournament. We could not feed the ball down low to a big and get an easy bucket. I just don't see why we have to have a guard that can go off for 30. I think Myles is going to be a decent PG. He won't go off for 30, but will take care of the ball and be serviceable. Apparently not many people on this board are ok with a serviceable pg.
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?
Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is. And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman. Neither was Denis or Pullen. Gruds is going to be a stud. We'll see how the point shakes out.
"Lawrence expects the conversation to take place in the next couple days, but warned that nothing, as it relates to his imminent transfer, will be certain until the conclusion of that call. Even still, the sophomore says he already has an idea of what his role on the team will be should he, as expected, find himself in a purple jersey.
"Since I'm a slasher, they want me to be versatile and get to the basket," Lawrence said. "I'll just be a playing that off guard."
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1099063
Southwell is not a guard at the DI level, he's an SF with above average handling and passing skills for that position. Just because he played PG in HS doesn't mean that translates to DI ball.
Pullen and Clemente both came out of HS with reputations as big-time scorers and we're projected to do that at the next level and they both absolutely lived up to that billing, guys that can score off the bounce or off the catch. Which one of these guys is projected as being a scoring combo guard?
I certainly do expect McGruder to develop into a scorer but he's more of a wing and it will not be his role to create off the dribble.
Not a good idea to argue with someone who does his research.
I think everyone here got spoiled by Clemente and Pullen. We need low-post scorers to compete with KU. That's absolutely what killed us in the tournament. We could not feed the ball down low to a big and get an easy bucket. I just don't see why we have to have a guard that can go off for 30. I think Myles is going to be a decent PG. He won't go off for 30, but will take care of the ball and be serviceable. Apparently not many people on this board are ok with a serviceable pg.
A "serviceable" PG would be fine alongside a stud SG.
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?
Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is. And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman. Neither was Denis or Pullen. Gruds is going to be a stud. We'll see how the point shakes out.
"Lawrence expects the conversation to take place in the next couple days, but warned that nothing, as it relates to his imminent transfer, will be certain until the conclusion of that call. Even still, the sophomore says he already has an idea of what his role on the team will be should he, as expected, find himself in a purple jersey.
"Since I'm a slasher, they want me to be versatile and get to the basket," Lawrence said. "I'll just be a playing that off guard."
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1099063
Southwell is not a guard at the DI level, he's an SF with above average handling and passing skills for that position. Just because he played PG in HS doesn't mean that translates to DI ball.
Pullen and Clemente both came out of HS with reputations as big-time scorers and we're projected to do that at the next level and they both absolutely lived up to that billing, guys that can score off the bounce or off the catch. Which one of these guys is projected as being a scoring combo guard?
I certainly do expect McGruder to develop into a scorer but he's more of a wing and it will not be his role to create off the dribble.
Not a good idea to argue with someone who does his research.
1 Shane Southwell Guard 6-6 220 FR/HS Bronx, N.Y. (Rice)
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ksu-m-baskbl-mtt.html
:dunno:
So absolutely no more chance that we get Cunningham, correct?
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?
Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is. And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman. Neither was Denis or Pullen. Gruds is going to be a stud. We'll see how the point shakes out.
"Lawrence expects the conversation to take place in the next couple days, but warned that nothing, as it relates to his imminent transfer, will be certain until the conclusion of that call. Even still, the sophomore says he already has an idea of what his role on the team will be should he, as expected, find himself in a purple jersey.
"Since I'm a slasher, they want me to be versatile and get to the basket," Lawrence said. "I'll just be a playing that off guard."
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1099063
Southwell is not a guard at the DI level, he's an SF with above average handling and passing skills for that position. Just because he played PG in HS doesn't mean that translates to DI ball.
Pullen and Clemente both came out of HS with reputations as big-time scorers and we're projected to do that at the next level and they both absolutely lived up to that billing, guys that can score off the bounce or off the catch. Which one of these guys is projected as being a scoring combo guard?
I certainly do expect McGruder to develop into a scorer but he's more of a wing and it will not be his role to create off the dribble.
Not a good idea to argue with someone who does his research.
1 Shane Southwell Guard 6-6 220 FR/HS Bronx, N.Y. (Rice)
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ksu-m-baskbl-mtt.html
:dunno:
Everybody else in the free world sees the kid as an SF, if he's regularly bringing the ball up the court and setting up the offense 3 years from now, I'll eat my words.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Shane-Southwell-68331
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3226334
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=44165&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d44165
I always thought that it was 1,2= back court and 3,4,5= front court. :dunno:
40 years ago that was probably accurate.
(Southwell not a guard)
who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?
martin may be happy with his guards (must be?), as fans we have no reason to agree with him.
I always thought that it was 1,2= back court and 3,4,5= front court. :dunno:
40 years ago that was probably accurate.
http://dimemag.com/2010/02/the-nbas-top-10-frontcourts/
:dunno:
Diaz, two negatives:
1. needs bulk, strength (just get to a hardened 225#)
2. young for his Class (Red-Shirt)
LIKED him in Jan. 2008, as a Soph!
Long, Athletic, Offensive, Energy, Shot range
ballplayers on diaz.QuoteDiaz, two negatives:
1. needs bulk, strength (just get to a hardened 225#)
2. young for his Class (Red-Shirt)
LIKED him in Jan. 2008, as a Soph!
Long, Athletic, Offensive, Energy, Shot range
Does the kid have shooting range, or not? Seems like half of the stuff I have read about him says he doesn't have much and half says he does. Maybe half the stuff I have read is outdated? :crossfingers:
Does the kid have shooting range, or not? Seems like half of the stuff I have read about him says he doesn't have much and half says he does. Maybe half the stuff I have read is outdated? :crossfingers:
probably just diff. scouts watching him in diff games/tourneys.
with bp, him referencing his impressions of diaz as a soph suggests that he hasn't seen him this summer.
Let's be serious here fellas. We're signing a G (hopefully PG). Yeah, it's prolly going to be sucky A-Rod-Tri but we're signing one.
Let's be serious here fellas. We're signing a G (hopefully PG). Yeah, it's prolly going to be sucky A-Rod-Tri but we're signing one.
Why not Quinn Cook?
Your way off base. My son's AAU played DC Assault in Cali last week (we beat them in the semi's) Dalonte was there and is still considered the man.
You should have seen the respect Coach Hill was getting. All the kids were aware he was in the gym watching games. Folks our program has really arrived. We need to let them do their thing.
From big time Kansas State message board poster/supporter/scout:QuoteYour way off base. My son's AAU played DC Assault in Cali last week (we beat them in the semi's) Dalonte was there and is still considered the man.QuoteYou should have seen the respect Coach Hill was getting. All the kids were aware he was in the gym watching games. Folks our program has really arrived. We need to let them do their thing.
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You guys do realize that Dalonte has been the point man for all of the New York City kids don't you??? Kelly, Southwell, Peterson, Hentriquez, Lawrence fist made contact with KSU through Hill. Hill is the one that initially set up the connection with the NY Gauchos and their coaches.
What I have seen with Hill is that he is very good in going out and starting the cold calls and opening new doors for KSU however rarely is he the "closer". Frank is our closer and I think Underwood and Figurs have some closing skills too.
The ultimate key to success is once the coaches get the door busted wide open and the pipeline built then the assistant doesn't have to be the key lead person for every kid he is targeting. The current players from that area actually do more to sell the program than any of the coaches can. Hill opened the doors in NY, Frank is the closer but in between the two the current players like Kelly and Henriquez did all of the work telling the recruit how much they like it in the Little Apple as opposed to the Big Apple.
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Come on ChiTwn, you just blew up a whiner thread. Good lord it's amazing what kind of crap gets posted on this board at times.
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PoetWarrior, I just figured out that your name is ChiTwnCat over on GP.
First of all, Gipson is #136 and most likely will rise in those rankings. Hard to believe we complain after we beat out Huggs and Final Four West Virginia for his services. Maybe all of you have played ball is some way shape or form or have been around the aau circuit. To be able to take all of the aau kids and kids in the nation for that matter and be in the top 150, you have to be a very special player.
As for Dalonte, the man has BIG value to our program. You guys want the 5 stars every year and its not going to happen. Here is a great example of comparisons. Go look at Michigan State's recruits every year. Izzo isn't bringing in 5 start and 4 stars every year. He is however bringing in players that fit his brand of basketball. Turned out pretty good for them over the past decade didn't it. We are starting to sound like a bunch of spoiled brats east of here. Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Purdue and Syracuse. Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Huggs. Sound the alarm the program is going down hill! GMAB :jerk:
First of all, Gipson is #136 and most likely will rise in those rankings. Hard to believe we complain after we beat out Huggs and Final Four West Virginia for his services. Maybe all of you have played ball is some way shape or form or have been around the aau circuit. To be able to take all of the aau kids and kids in the nation for that matter and be in the top 150, you have to be a very special player.
As for Dalonte, the man has BIG value to our program. You guys want the 5 stars every year and its not going to happen. Here is a great example of comparisons. Go look at Michigan State's recruits every year. Izzo isn't bringing in 5 start and 4 stars every year. He is however bringing in players that fit his brand of basketball. Turned out pretty good for them over the past decade didn't it. We are starting to sound like a bunch of spoiled brats east of here. Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Purdue and Syracuse. Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Huggs. Sound the alarm the program is going down hill! GMAB :jerk:
Go look at Michigan State's recruits every year. Izzo isn't bringing in 5 start and 4 stars every year. He is however bringing in players that fit his brand of basketball. Turned out pretty good for them over the past decade didn't it. We are starting to sound like a bunch of spoiled brats east of here. Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Purdue and Syracuse. Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Huggs. Sound the alarm the program is going down hill! GMAB :jerk:
Go back and look at Frank's classes. They are going to start to look identical.
Beasley 5 Star
Walker 5 Star
Judge 5 Star
McGruder 4 star
Kelly 5 Star
Nino 4 Star
Gosh, your right. We should all start running for the hills. Those guys suck. My point is we can make some comparisons to the program Michigan State built. They recruit for system.
That's in what 3 years? 4 5 star players.
Gipson will be closing in on 4 by next year and Diaz will be close to breaking 150.
I just get sick of all the negativity. We just went to the Elite 8 and are a top 5 pre-season team. We have a coach who turned down 2.5 at Oregon and a a great staff. Instead of enjoying it we berate them. Enjoy the freaking ride. We sound like the mid-courters at Lawrence. You know the tools that call into the Monday night shows suggesting a change to the coach. Always ridiculous.
I just get sick of all the negativity. We just went to the Elite 8 and are a top 5 pre-season team. We have a coach who turned down 2.5 at Oregon and a a great staff. Instead of enjoying it we berate them. Enjoy the freaking ride. We sound like the mid-courters at Lawrence. You know the tools that call into the Monday night shows suggesting a change to the coach. Always ridiculous.
I just get sick of all the negativity. We just went to the Elite 8 and are a top 5 pre-season team. We have a coach who turned down 2.5 at Oregon and a a great staff. Instead of enjoying it we berate them. Enjoy the freaking ride. We sound like the mid-courters at Lawrence. You know the tools that call into the Monday night shows suggesting a change to the coach. Always ridiculous.
I just get sick of all the negativity. We just went to the Elite 8 and are a top 5 pre-season team. We have a coach who turned down 2.5 at Oregon and a a great staff. Instead of enjoying it we berate them. Enjoy the freaking ride. We sound like the mid-courters at Lawrence. You know the tools that call into the Monday night shows suggesting a change to the coach. Always ridiculous.sorry but your michigan state comparo was so stupid i have to think it was either a joke or you have the downs. either way, you suck as a poster.
It seems like most here share the opinion that Frank and co. are pretty good at identifying talent. Still, lots of scepticism over a couple guys who Frank apparently accepted early commitments from.
As for Dalonte, the man has BIG value to our program. You guys want the 5 stars every year and its not going to happen.
The simple truth is that Adrian Diaz had an 1 verified(possibly 2)offer(s) from other BCS schools when he committed to us. Still doesn't mean he won't turn out to be a productive player for KSU, but taking that kind of kid early in the process is a bigger risk than taking a top 100 kid with multiple BCS offers at the same time.
Gipson and Diaz could both be very solid role players for us, but at some point, if we want to maintain Top 25 status, we're going to have get players who have the POTENTIAL to be difference makers. I do think Williams has that kind of potential and I thought that even before he was given 4*, I'd like to see us land more players like him.
Gip is benefiting from the overall lack of elite-level posts in this class. In a typical class, a player with his skill set and body type would be a mid-major contributor at best.
Consequently, all posts are being over-valued in the 2011 class. His contributions at K-State will largely depend on his ability to change his work ethic both in games and out of games, and on developing fundamental footwork and angle improvements.
Right now he relies 100% on his physical assets to play the game. At the major D1 level, he'll be facing many players who are his equal physically. In games where he's pitted against like-bodied or better-bodied players, he currently disappears because he doesn't have great footwork or feel for the game to find an advantage.
He'll likely find it tough to even get minutes at K-State. Unless something changes with him, look for him to ultimately transfer out, after a year or two, to somewhere mid-major or below, looking for playing time. New coach at Cedar Hill (where he plays HS) is really good. Maybe this will light a fire with Gip and he can change all this.
From big time Kansas State message board poster/supporter/scout:QuoteYour way off base. My son's AAU played DC Assault in Cali last week (we beat them in the semi's) Dalonte was there and is still considered the man.QuoteYou should have seen the respect Coach Hill was getting. All the kids were aware he was in the gym watching games. Folks our program has really arrived. We need to let them do their thing.
God damnit. Bossi?
God damnit. Bossi?
soonerdaze. honestly, i don't agree. but i do respect his opinion, and he sees the dfw guys a lot.
QuoteGip is benefiting from the overall lack of elite-level posts in this class. In a typical class, a player with his skill set and body type would be a mid-major contributor at best.
Consequently, all posts are being over-valued in the 2011 class. His contributions at K-State will largely depend on his ability to change his work ethic both in games and out of games, and on developing fundamental footwork and angle improvements.
Right now he relies 100% on his physical assets to play the game. At the major D1 level, he'll be facing many players who are his equal physically. In games where he's pitted against like-bodied or better-bodied players, he currently disappears because he doesn't have great footwork or feel for the game to find an advantage.
He'll likely find it tough to even get minutes at K-State. Unless something changes with him, look for him to ultimately transfer out, after a year or two, to somewhere mid-major or below, looking for playing time. New coach at Cedar Hill (where he plays HS) is really good. Maybe this will light a fire with Gip and he can change all this.
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QuoteGip is benefiting from the overall lack of elite-level posts in this class. In a typical class, a player with his skill set and body type would be a mid-major contributor at best.
Consequently, all posts are being over-valued in the 2011 class. His contributions at K-State will largely depend on his ability to change his work ethic both in games and out of games, and on developing fundamental footwork and angle improvements.
Right now he relies 100% on his physical assets to play the game. At the major D1 level, he'll be facing many players who are his equal physically. In games where he's pitted against like-bodied or better-bodied players, he currently disappears because he doesn't have great footwork or feel for the game to find an advantage.
He'll likely find it tough to even get minutes at K-State. Unless something changes with him, look for him to ultimately transfer out, after a year or two, to somewhere mid-major or below, looking for playing time. New coach at Cedar Hill (where he plays HS) is really good. Maybe this will light a fire with Gip and he can change all this.
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All of those issues are almost entirely in the domain of coaching and player development. There are a very, very, very few high school recruits who do not struggle against like bodied/ability players. The "he struggles against guys his size and build/he looks good because of the talent he plays against" is quite possibly the dumbest basketball recruiting commentary in history . . . well no $hit captain obvious, and the same thing could be said of damn nearly every Top 150 recruit out there, unless he's fvcking Lebron or Kobe.
The early signing period hasn't even started, but Kansas State coach Frank Martin is off to a great start by landing two post presences in Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and Adrian Diaz (Hialeah, Fla./ Hialeah Miami Lakes). It is very difficult to find size in any draft class, particularly early, which makes it that much more impressive for Martin to bring in the 6-foot-7, 240-pound Gipson and the 7-0, 205-pound Diaz. Now, Kansas State can focus on building around these two bigs to fill out its 2011 recruiting class.
I recently saw both of these prospects play and it is fair to say that Gipson will have an immediate impact and be factor in the Big 12, while Diaz has even more upside.
Gipson is a legitimate threat inside and displayed an uncanny ability to create space with his body in the paint at the Fab 48 in Las Vegas. The lefty power forward's body is so big and strong that he looked unstoppable at times. Gipson has strong hands for rebounding, but a soft touch to use his go-to move -- a lefty hook over his right shoulder.
Despite having a thin frame, Diaz showed at the AAU Nationals in Orlando, Fla., that he could make his presence felt with his shot blocking, ability to run the floor and 15-foot jumper. His potential is very high due to his size and skills, but he needs to become best friends with the strength and conditioning coach.
There are a very, very, very few high school recruits who do not struggle against like bodied/ability players. The "he struggles against guys his size and build/he looks good because of the talent he plays against" is quite possibly the dumbest basketball recruiting commentary in history . . .
The early signing period hasn't even started, but Kansas State coach Frank Martin is off to a great start by landing two post presences in Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and Adrian Diaz (Hialeah, Fla./ Hialeah Miami Lakes). It is very difficult to find size in any draft class, particularly early, which makes it that much more impressive for Martin to bring in the 6-foot-7, 240-pound Gipson and the 7-0, 205-pound Diaz. Now, Kansas State can focus on building around these two bigs to fill out its 2011 recruiting class.
There are a very, very, very few high school recruits who do not struggle against like bodied/ability players. The "he struggles against guys his size and build/he looks good because of the talent he plays against" is quite possibly the dumbest basketball recruiting commentary in history . . .
i get what you're saying, and it may be overused. but, no, not really. there are plenty of recruits that don't struggle at all against like-bodied players. in fact, they tend to dominate them. pretty much the entire top 50 falls into that category. then you've got many more players that don't standout physically, but excel on skill.
i do think the whole "let's see if he can do that at a high-major" thing that gets thrown at every short thick pf is incredibly overdone. 1) even at high majors, there aren't many 6'9" 260 guys. or even other 6'6" 260 guys. those thick bastards can still knock everyone out of the way at high-majors. 2) there is an extremely long, very distinguished list of short pfs that were productive in college. but for some reason all the recruiting analysts get collective amnesia on the subject whenever they see a recruit under 6'8" in the post.
Seven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.
I'm a noob, but been following a while...
much more excited about Gipson than Diaz, but this is at least encouraging that he won't be like our last 7 footer from Florida:QuoteSeven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044)
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I'm a noob, but been following a while...
much more excited about Gipson than Diaz, but this is at least encouraging that he won't be like our last 7 footer from Florida:QuoteSeven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044)
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Excellent first time use of :dunno:.
I'm a noob, but been following a while...
much more excited about Gipson than Diaz, but this is at least encouraging that he won't be like our last 7 footer from Florida:QuoteSeven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044)
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Excellent first time use of :dunno:.
I'm a noob, but been following a while...
much more excited about Gipson than Diaz, but this is at least encouraging that he won't be like our last 7 footer from Florida:QuoteSeven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044)
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Excellent first time use of :dunno:.
But horrible use of avatar. I mean, powercat facing left? lol. He's right. He is a n00b.
I'm very comfortable when I hear "Diaz needs to be best friends with the strength and conditioning coach"...I'm guessing Greenie won't give him much of a choice. If the kid has a body that can add weight (don't see JHR) then he could become a force with a few years under Scott.
I'm very comfortable when I hear "Diaz needs to be best friends with the strength and conditioning coach"...I'm guessing Greenie won't give him much of a choice. If the kid has a body that can add weight (don't see JHR) then he could become a force with a few years under Scott.
honestly, that isn't even the issue. the thing is: why take a 2011 project big, knowing full well that he has absolutely no chance to contribute as a freshman when you could take a position of need combo guard with a decent chance to contribute immediately?
knowing full well that 2012 is a very good class for bigs and there's a decent chance that you could get a 2012 big able to give you as soph what diaz could give you as a jr?
also knowing full well that there are always oppys for quality transfer and juco bigs in the spring if your whole plan goes to crap.
it just doesn't make any sense.
Growing up, Thomas Gipson had a workout routine that would rival anything Kansas State strength coach Scott Greenawalt could concoct.
"In second grade I was 6-foot, but I was skinny," said Gipson, K-State's newest basketball commit. "So my pops told me to go out to the ranch."
The ranch was 100 acres of land near Seguin, Texas, where Gipson trained by flipping telephone poles, lifting logs and running sprints in the smothering South Texas heat. When he wasn't working out, Gipson would repair fences or drive the tractor.
"It's always like 100 degrees," Gipson said. "The worst thing was the monster truck tires, having to flip them for 50 yards."
The grueling routine helped mold Gipson into a 6-foot-7, 245-pound power forward who should mesh perfectly with K-State's physical brand of basketball. Gipson, a three-star prospect in the class of 2011, chose K-State over offers from Baylor, West Virginia, California and Iowa.
"When they see him, people think he should have played football," said Gipson's mother, Cassundra. "He's always been a pretty big fella. Instead of playing football, he's used to banging on the court."
K-State started recruiting Gipson when he was a sophomore in high school, and he formed a bond with assistant coach Matt Figger. The interest was strong enough that, during an unofficial visit to Baylor last year, Gipson was fixated on the road team. (K-State won the game 76-74 on two late free throws.)
"Thomas liked coaching style, liked the team, liked the way they worked together," Cassundra said.
The decision itself was easy enough.
"He told me, 'I think I want to go to K-State,'" Cassundra said. "I said, 'Are you sure?' He said, 'Yeah.'"
"Talking to the head coach, seeing him in the stands every single game, that was just a heads up," Thomas said.
Gipson gives K-State two 2011 commitments in the past few days. Adrian Diaz, a 6-foot-11 center from Miami, gave K-State a verbal pledge on Sunday.
Figger?!
I call BS on the "I was 6' in second grade".
I am 6'-5" and was 5' in 3rd grade(still by far and away the tallest in my class at that time). I don't remember when I wasn't the tallest in my grade.
No way unless he was 12 yrs old while in 2nd grade.
I call BS on the "I was 6' in second grade".
I am 6'-5" and was 5' in 3rd grade(still by far and away the tallest in my class at that time). I don't remember when I wasn't the tallest in my grade.
No way unless he was 12 yrs old while in 2nd grade.
edit: BTW, BigGipfan :love:
I'm very comfortable when I hear "Diaz needs to be best friends with the strength and conditioning coach"...I'm guessing Greenie won't give him much of a choice. If the kid has a body that can add weight (don't see JHR) then he could become a force with a few years under Scott.
honestly, that isn't even the issue. the thing is: why take a 2011 project big, knowing full well that he has absolutely no chance to contribute as a freshman when you could take a position of need combo guard with a decent chance to contribute immediately?
knowing full well that 2012 is a very good class for bigs and there's a decent chance that you could get a 2012 big able to give you as soph what diaz could give you as a jr?
also knowing full well that there are always oppys for quality transfer and juco bigs in the spring if your whole plan goes to crap.
it just doesn't make any sense.
Why do people keep saying that the commitment of one recruit means the elimination of another (especially at a different position)?
We're going to take guard(s) in 11. If you don't like a recruit because of the recruit, fire away. If there are any other 4/5's we were in on that you really wanted, I could see the argument. To say you don't like a recruit because you think it means we won't be able to get a really good recruit at another position is silly/naive.
We're going to take guard(s) in 11. If you don't like a recruit because of the recruit, fire away. If there are any other 4/5's we were in on that you really wanted, I could see the argument. To say you don't like a recruit because you think it means we won't be able to get a really good recruit at another position is silly/naive.
i hope you are correct.
We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign.
we need an impact guard much more than we need an impact big. We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign. A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.
Does a Florida offer make him suck less? Please expand on that.we need an impact guard much more than we need an impact big. We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign. A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.
Florida offer...
A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.
Everything I'm reading about Gipson is that he could/should be a top #100 player by the time it's all said and done. Diaz doesn't exactly get dog crap reviews either.
I hate this talking point. You read it about everyone. The thing is, if he's destined to be a top 100 player, which top 100 players aren't supposed to be there? You know what you rarely read? Someone posting that their new recruit is currently ranked in the top 100 but when it's all said and done he's prolly not going to be in the top 150. But, yeah, my primary problem is I've said forever that I really want an impact pg/combo in this class. As chum has repeatedly pointed out, Frank seems to be happy with the guys we have there. And, the fact that we have arguably already oversigned tells me our only hope at signing a pg/combo is in the late stages once we've jettisoned some losers....which means we aren't getting a highly rated pg/combo.
See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).
With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking. He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100? The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools. Obviously, he's a valuable player. And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off. See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).
Is it just the personnel distribution (ie too many bigs v. guards) that your unhappy with?
Using the Frank method . . . of JHO doesn't pick it up, he's likely gone after this year. JMO.
Gipson & Diaz
Powerful 6-7 PF inside grinder with "no finesse" compared to Haslem
(Miami Senior HS/U Florida)
Long 6-11 C runner, flier, high post shooter with much PO
OLD School KSU folks.....Les Craft & Randy Reed.....other odd pairs ???
POtential, he should be in 2012 Class!
2011 is a weak Class nationally for "size", this Staff got two goodens in a
tight year for PF & C.
Think they are "planning" on 3 schollies for 2011 Class,
3rd one to go to a PG.
2012 Class nationally has mucho BIGS, several in Kansas Area.....
REPEAT:
*this Staff will BE recruiting always*
**there WILL be Players in Manhappiness**
.....with an Angelic name!
NOT the most Gifted, IS a Tuff Nutt that is very familiar with FM!
PG Play from: Nick, Will, Juevol, ???
Diaz, two negatives:
1. needs bulk, strength (just get to a hardened 225#)
2. young for his Class (Red-Shirt)
LIKED him in Jan. 2008, as a Soph!
Long, Athletic, Offensive, Energy, Shot range
Red-Shirting is MY opinion!
BIGS can always us more time.....HE is a young Senior*
Depends, IF Wally and/or Fred are @ KSU for 2011-2012 Season
(I think they will be)
Depends HOW his body attracts poundage... strength...
with all the supposed great bigs available in the 2012 class wouldn't redshirting Diaz be the utlimate in retardery?
we need an impact guard much more than we need an impact big. We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign. A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.
Florida offer...
I hate this talking point. You read it about everyone. The thing is, if he's destined to be a top 100 player, which top 100 players aren't supposed to be there? You know what you rarely read? Someone posting that their new recruit is currently ranked in the top 100 but when it's all said and done he's prolly not going to be in the top 150. But, yeah, my primary problem is I've said forever that I really want an impact pg/combo in this class. As chum has repeatedly pointed out, Frank seems to be happy with the guys we have there. And, the fact that we have arguably already oversigned tells me our only hope at signing a pg/combo is in the late stages once we've jettisoned some losers....which means we aren't getting a highly rated pg/combo.
I certainly get where you're coming from re: impact pg/combo guard. I hope the guys we have develop into playmakers, but outside of Pullen and McGruder, we're pretty unproven.
With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking. He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100? The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools. Obviously, he's a valuable player. And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off. See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).
Good work in that thread UW
we need an impact guard much more than we need an impact big. We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign. A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.
Florida offer...
A Gator weighs in ..
"We are monitoring Angel just in case Boynton decides to go pro (NBA or Europe) after this year. We would not sign him in the Fall, but if he is still there in the spring and we like what he does this HS season, there is a chance we might take him....the only guard we would take in the Fall is Kedren Johnson"
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=145696777&sid=910&tid=145637036&style=1
Good work in that thread UW
Just reppin the KSU Cats bro!
... If you are capable of reading between the lines at all, Kedren Johnson is the only guard UF has been actively recruiting that they would take in the Fall.
If Austin Rivers did a complete 180, and said he wanted to recommit there, I'm sure they would take him. Same as if Josiah Turner, Ky Madden, and Quinn Cook all had miraculous epiphanys that they should become Gators. But anybody with a half brain realizes that's not happening.
With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking. He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100? The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools. Obviously, he's a valuable player. And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off. See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).
Nobody has even mentioned his ranking more than in passing except for you. I certainly haven't except in general response to the "should be top 100" comment.
With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking. He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100? The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools. Obviously, he's a valuable player. And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off. See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).
Nobody has even mentioned his ranking more than in passing except for you. I certainly haven't except in general response to the "should be top 100" comment.
hadwood elite has him top 100.
http://www.hardwoodelite.com/prospects-list.php
booyah
With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking. He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100? The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools. Obviously, he's a valuable player. And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off. See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).
Nobody has even mentioned his ranking more than in passing except for you. I certainly haven't except in general response to the "should be top 100" comment.
hadwood elite has him top 100.
http://www.hardwoodelite.com/prospects-list.php
booyah
What???? Gipson will end up in the top 100? I got slammed for saying that yesterday.
don't know why he doesn't impress on The Circuit.
definitely would take a-rod over selby. that may spark a debate
I would suppose the odds are the Josh Selby will end up playing for Kansas this fall. However, where there is smoke there is fire. The question is whether the fire is big enough to be a problem with the NCAA. As you may have heard, he is being investigates for possibly having an oral agreement for future representation by a family friend.http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/2411 (http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/2411)
don't know why he doesn't impress on The Circuit.
hardly played.
dobbiedribble
Sorry I got too deep for you there. I will keep it simple next time.
So after one year of Selby and maybe a sweet 16 or something compared to 4 years of fatty collins? We have no idea how a-rod will turn out. Let's say he turns out to be a 12 pts and 5-6 assists guy over the course of his career at ksu. You still take Selby and the baggage? Again its that debate about the stars and rankings. Are the other two guys we are recruiting from dc assault 1 and done?
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So after one year of Selby and maybe a sweet 16 or something compared to 4 years of fatty collins? We have no idea how a-rod will turn out. Let's say he turns out to be a 12 pts and 5-6 assists guy over the course of his career at ksu. You still take Selby and the baggage? Again its that debate about the stars and rankings. Are the other two guys we are recruiting from dc assault 1 and done?
ku will get to recruit a new player when selby leaves. they don't have to leave it open for the following 3 years.
who do you mean with the dca recruits, seagears and cook? there is scanty evidence either is still being recruited, but if those are the players referenced, no. neither is a guy that could leave after a year. not that convinced seagears is all that good, actually. rather have ar-t.
A month ago everyone here was convinced the guy was a scrub. Is ar-11' still a lock for EMAW?
A month ago everyone here was convinced the guy was a scrub. Is ar-11' still a lock for EMAW?
i've always been an ar-t apologist. don't lump me in with the rest of these candle to the winders.
don't think he's a lock.
A month ago everyone here was convinced the guy was a scrub. Is ar-11' still a lock for EMAW?
i've always been an ar-t apologist. don't lump me in with the rest of these candle to the winders.
don't think he's a lock.
Thoughts on ar-t going prep and classifying in 2012?
No evidence he will; just wondering if we want him and he wants EMAW, it may be his best chance if there are no defections?
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( :facepalm: <-- at myself for even thinking this.)
Looks like we're bascially out of the running for Boatright. Could have seen this one coming but still, PG options for this class are dwindling on a daily basis.Underdog, with the signings this last week does it mean we are out of the running for Rodriguez and Cannen Cunningham? How many schollies do we have left? Ive heard Cunningham is a beast.
"The offers have come from Miami (Fla.), Texas-El Paso (where Floyd landed), West Virginia, Iowa, Minnesota, DePaul, Baylor and Providence.
Tennessee, Kentucky and Wake Forest have shown interest, too, but have yet to offer."
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/sports/2571518,2_2_AU06_BOATRIGHT_S1-100806.article
Honestly? I really don't know. I've heard we've offered both and that both are planning to visit Manhattan this fall.
Hoowever, it would be a major surprise to me if we took another big in this class. Hell, I was surprised we took 2 bigs in this class, so given our current scolly crunch(If you count O. Lawrence we're setting up to be 1 over for '11-'12) I'm thinking we pass on Cunningham.
Rodriguez? Well the "beat" writer in your sig pic is convinced it's a done deal. Again, we already appear to be oversigning(which is something our staff hasn't done before), but I haven't seen anything to lead to believe that we've stopped recruiting Rodriguez or that anyone else besides KSU is his leader. I have no clue how we'd make the #'s work, but if I had to bet on it today, I'd bet on Rodriguez ending up at KSU.
There you go, completely unfounded and sourceless recruiting analysis, it's what I do best.
(Freddy will go pro)staff counting on it
the "staff counting on it" part makes it seem like you have insidery info. PM if so. Don't wan't want to dog you if you know something. Doesn't make sense to me personally. He isn't getting drafted. He's not a prospect
and Omari has to earn a scholarship that doesn't exist, so we will have three scholarships
clearly, But when has Frank ever left someone out there like that. Seems more likely he sends him packing (or someone(s) else). we aren't getting this kid 2 years for free. also d-pete, who will probably not make it here, but it throws another cog into the mess.
Why oversign with two bigs? < nobody can answer this.
Art Alvarez had some quotes about Freddy going pro early when he was still at FIU. Seems kinda like a kid that could have it in his mind to go pro early no matter what...damn the torpedoes.
Maybe he's saying that he needs a paycheck next year one way or another....Europe, etc. :dunno:
Art Alvarez had some quotes about Freddy going pro early when he was still at FIU. Seems kinda like a kid that could have it in his mind to go pro early no matter what...damn the torpedoes.
Maybe he's saying that he needs a paycheck next year one way or another....Europe, etc. :dunno:
Seems kinda like a kid that could have it in his mind to go pro early no matter what...damn the torpedoes.
Lee Summit North's (& mokan's) 6'9" David Kravish has received offers from California, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa, Wichita State, Creighton
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889
GPA:2.4
ACT:19
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889
GPA:2.4
ACT:19
This seems fine for eligibility. Is it not?
Of course, K-State is one of the leaders. We haven't really identified the rest of them yet, but K-State is one.
We've let in much worse non-athletes.Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889
GPA:2.4
ACT:19
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889
If Fred Hoibergs not offering why are we? Does Frank really thing he knows something that Fred Hoiberg does not? Fred Hoiberg has more scholarships than he does chest hairs. Something's not adding up. :confused:
What we do know is that he received some less than stellar reviews from analysts and that Alvarez is saying he scores 30 a game every game, the truth probably lies somewhere in between.
So are you buying the "J.J. Barea clone" line too?
if we got ar-t, we'd be getting a more skilled javi gonzalez. is that good enough?
So are you buying the "J.J. Barea clone" line too?
i think it's a better style comparo than clemente. and i think alvarez is wonderfully entertaining.
if we got ar-t, we'd be getting a more skilled javi gonzalez. is that good enough?
how much more skilled? look at his 2009 stats too. if he didn't turn the ball over at a ridiculous rate, he'd be pretty dece.
http://alturl.com/f2xcc
I'm not sure what's not to be excited about with this kid. You can say that Alvarez is full of crap, fine. But the fact is Billy Dunnavun has offered and that should say alot...pretty sure Billy's seen the kid play a few times given he's in his back yard. I personally put some faith in his hs coach saying that ar-t has "it" and refuses to lose. I want those kids...give me the 3 star that plays his heart out and you can have the 5 star Xavier Henry's that get all the press but couldn't give a crap about winning or losing.
I'm not sure what's not to be excited about with this kid. You can say that Alvarez is full of crap, fine. But the fact is Billy Dunnavun has offered and that should say alot...pretty sure Billy's seen the kid play a few times given he's in his back yard. I personally put some faith in his hs coach saying that ar-t has "it" and refuses to lose. I want those kids...give me the 3 star that plays his heart out and you can have the 5 star Xavier Henry's that get all the press but couldn't give a crap about winning or losing.
A) Yeah, I don't mind A-R-T
B) There are some rumblings that he may not have a full fledged Florida offer iirc.
C) Xavier Henry was/is very good. Don't be a tard.
I'm not sure what's not to be excited about with this kid. You can say that Alvarez is full of crap, fine. But the fact is Billy Dunnavun has offered and that should say alot...pretty sure Billy's seen the kid play a few times given he's in his back yard. I personally put some faith in his hs coach saying that ar-t has "it" and refuses to lose. I want those kids...give me the 3 star that plays his heart out and you can have the 5 star Xavier Henry's that get all the press but couldn't give a crap about winning or losing.ray shipman
Yeah, supposedly UF would only take Angel in the spring and then only if they missed on a couple of other guys. And Xavier is real fracking good. You don't get drafted that high unless you are one hell of a player.
Angel is only 5'10???????????!!!!!!!!!
I asked the Scout recruiting guys Dave Telep and Evan Daniels if either Gipson or Diaz had a shot at making their post-summer Top 100 and how early they thought Gipson or Diaz could contribute at KSU, pasted below are their responses:
Daniels:
"Gipson won't be in it. I can't comment on Diaz because I haven't seen him in over year. Telep has though. Gipson is an undersized banger type prospect."
Telep:
"Don't see either of them in our Top 100 at this time. Diaz intrigues me as a prospect and will watch closely this year to see if there's a spike in production and he can get comfortable carrying a team at both ends. Gipson's solid. Not tall but wide. He's a rotation guy in Big 12. "
So is Gipson basically David Hoskins?
So is Gipson basically David Hoskins?
no, not at all, he's an interior guy all the way. more like ron anderson.
I think he's a bit shorter than Ron
So is Gipson basically David Hoskins?
Yeah, sorry to reiterate, but he sounds like a DH type player.
Remember when I suggested we make Hoskins our full time PG? :lol:
Yeah, sorry to reiterate, but he sounds like a DH type player.
no, hoskins had legit wing skills (minus the j) and athleticism. he was not a 4.
athletic anderson; short, skinny pittman; moses without the hops; etc. you can come up with a thousand low post comparos. as long as you stay in the post.
Moses has hopps?
I think he's a bit shorter than Ron
great job, uw. any chance you could get them to bite on an ar-t question?
meh. you asked the wrong guys. scout rankings are an absolute joke.
Guys, Sys has provided links to hundreds of recruitng articles, he obviously knows what he's talking about!!! Moses has/had hops, he just doesn't show them!!!! :runaway:
I'll try again after the dust settles when the rankings are updated, which will hopefully happen within the next couple weeks.
Adrian Diaz – The 7’0 Center for Gold Coast raised his stock the most of any player in the state. Out of Hialeah Miami Lakes, Diaz first impressed at the Rumble in the Bronx where national scouts from Hoop Scoop and Rivals liked his length and mobility. He stepped up his play at the Breakdown Hoops ...Festival, showcasing his passing ability and defensive presence in the lane. At Disney, he was aggressive offensively inside and finished above the rim the vast majority of the time. Diaz committed to Kansas State shortly after the event.
Angel is a solid floor general. He can score it. I think he will end up at KState.
Jack names top 4. Not shockingly EMAW doesn't make the cut
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0815/four-schools-top-list-for-kadeem-jack/
5* digging there sys.QuoteAngel is a solid floor general. He can score it. I think he will end up at KState.
northstar
It's been rumored for a while but now it's official, 5* wing DeAndre Daniels from SoCal has de-committed from Tecas
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1114254
Not sure the reported EMAW offer was legit(or the offers from Baylor, Marquette, OK St) but this kid still is a very intriguing prospect. Mean Green making noise on the 'cruiting trail!
It's been rumored for a while but now it's official, 5* wing DeAndre Daniels from SoCal has de-committed from Tecas
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1114254
saw that. any word on where he's looking? If he goes to KY I will LMAO.
Not sure the reported EMAW offer was legit(or the offers from Baylor, Marquette, OK St) but this kid still is a very intriguing prospect. Mean Green making noise on the 'cruiting trail!
Really need The Greek to weigh in on this.
Williams said that he is one of a few top players in the Dallas area talking about coming to UNT together.
"I think that I can be a good leader," Williams said. "I felt like if I committed, everyone else would jump on board."
In the meantime, I've been meaning to ask what the key to beating Kansas in basketball is so that I can share it with our coaching staff. I know nobody here has any idea how to do it...
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He's still is not 100 percent cleared to go. I should know something definite on him in the next week or so.
It's going to be close ... again. Don't pencil him on the 2011 roster just yet, though.
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Where is he or she at?
That MyaJ has got to be on top of this.
In the meantime, I've been meaning to ask what the key to beating Kansas in basketball is so that I can share it with our coaching staff. I know nobody here has any idea how to do it...
In the meantime, I've been meaning to ask what the key to beating Kansas in basketball is so that I can share it with our coaching staff. I know nobody here has any idea how to do it...
Pretend it's the NCAA tournament and you're a shitty mid-major.
Diaz looks like he has some decent upside. If anything, Gipson looks like a bigger reach.
QuoteWeekly Devon Peterson Update Reply
He's still is not 100 percent cleared to go. I should know something definite on him in the next week or so.
It's going to be close ... again. Don't pencil him on the 2011 roster just yet, though.
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OK, David Cox is starting to piss me off
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Now, this is in no way a Dalonte bash. I think Hill's doing great work and you won't hear me complain about any aspect of a Top 10 program that's winning consistently.
But if Cox convinces Seagears to go play for freakin' Rutgers and unproven Mike Rice, then even I have to wonder if he hasn't stolen AHCDH's D.C. mojo a little.
Probably a moot point, since all signs point to us holding our last schollie for Angel. Still chafes, though.
Link: Rutgers in great standing with DC Assault guards
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For obvious reasons, people on here are very hung up on the DC assault connections for Delonte.
But you don't make a guy the highest paid assistant in NCAA for a single pipeline. Too many other factors can cause that to lose value - e.g. other Assault coaches move to NCAA, traditional powers like Maryland & GTown make stronger pushes to keep local talent home, the Assault string together a couple weak years for high D1 prospects, etc.
So it should be noted that it's Delonte's broader AAU connections, more than just the Assault, that led to him getting his contract and labeled as the staff's king recruiter (not to shortchange anyone else).
While we needed the Assault connections to pull the program off the mat, it's obvious that the staff's overall recruiting strategy has become much broader in lieu of recent success.
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aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying
aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying
what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years. the entire staff is overpaid.
i didn't forget that. my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible. the whole rough ridin' staff is failing.aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying
what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years. the entire staff is overpaid.
i didn't forget that. my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible. the whole fracking staff is failing.aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying
what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years. the entire staff is overpaid.
I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.
I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.
it'd be nicer if telep, bossi, meyer, et al. thought they'd be fantastic rather than some random fracktard.
you summed up my thoughts nicely, thank you sys. you saved me from having to interrupt watching big brother and alert this rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to the fact that hard workers with strong wills to succeed are called walk-ons.I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.
it'd be nicer if telep, bossi, meyer, et al. thought they'd be fantastic rather than some random fracktard.
i didn't forget that. my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible. the whole fracking staff is failing.aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying
what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years. the entire staff is overpaid.
WTF is wrong with you people. I'm far from a kool aid drinker and I appreciate constructive criticism of all things KSU athletics, but GMAFB. "The whole staff is failing"? I remember when Tony Mitchell comitted, I was thinking, meh, a 3 star kid but I'm guessing Frank is seeing something I don't. A few months later hes one of the top recruits in the class. I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.
Yeah, supposedly UF would only take Angel in the spring and then only if they missed on a couple of other guys. And Xavier is real fracking good. You don't get drafted that high unless you are one hell of a player.
Mike Olowokandi, Kwame Brown, Stromile Swift, Darko Milicic...just sayin
Only a very select few can get by on talent alone.
Ideally, I want the very talented players who also work hard. I would also like a 12 inch dong, while we're at it.
Ideally, I want the very talented players who also work hard.where did i say I didn't want all three? fuktard came here saying that although we don't have the most talented recruits, that they try hard and that'll be good enough.
Hey, "nicname," for the answers to your questions feel free to reference the 2009-10 KU roster.
Yeah and that awesome team lost to a goddamn mid major in the 2nd round.
Very well played pc. Excellent work!! I should know better than to make a negative comment about our football teams first practice and then a positive comment about our 2011 bball recruiting class. Thanks for putting me in my place...again excellent work. Made me laugh! I'm living up to my screen name!i didn't forget that. my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible. the whole fracking staff is failing.aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying
what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years. the entire staff is overpaid.
WTF is wrong with you people. I'm far from a kool aid drinker and I appreciate constructive criticism of all things KSU athletics, but GMAFB. "The whole staff is failing"? I remember when Tony Mitchell comitted, I was thinking, meh, a 3 star kid but I'm guessing Frank is seeing something I don't. A few months later hes one of the top recruits in the class. I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.
and don't take too long before clicking on this link---> http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5447.new#new
dumbass :flush:
It's weird how things work two ways, isn't it?Very well played pc. Excellent work!! I should know better than to make a negative comment about our football teams first practice and then a positive comment about our 2011 bball recruiting class. Thanks for putting me in my place...again excellent work. Made me laugh! I'm living up to my screen name!i didn't forget that. my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible. the whole fracking staff is failing.aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying
what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years. the entire staff is overpaid.
WTF is wrong with you people. I'm far from a kool aid drinker and I appreciate constructive criticism of all things KSU athletics, but GMAFB. "The whole staff is failing"? I remember when Tony Mitchell comitted, I was thinking, meh, a 3 star kid but I'm guessing Frank is seeing something I don't. A few months later hes one of the top recruits in the class. I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.
and don't take too long before clicking on this link---> http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5447.new#new
dumbass :flush:
In the past I've stressed a lot about leaving guys off our T-100 list. This year we r scrambling to fill out the list. Just isn't deep.
QuoteIn the past I've stressed a lot about leaving guys off our T-100 list. This year we r scrambling to fill out the list. Just isn't deep.
sigh.
"Please list talented players who didn't work hard, preferably ones were were highly ranked recruits that never amounted to anything of substance. Also, if you could find out which players(higher or lower ranked recruits) are usually on winning teams. Thanks."
Donnell Harvey -
Jason Fraser -
Marvin Stone
Von Wafer
Evan Burns
Ray Young
Chris Rodgers
Mike Jones
Abdou Diame
Derrick Caracter
Corey Benjamin
Lester Earl
Ronnie Fields
Vassil Evtimov
Ndubi Ebi
James Lang
Earl Smith
Sebastian Telfair
Gerald Green
Andray Blatche
Sorry pic
QuoteIn the past I've stressed a lot about leaving guys off our T-100 list. This year we r scrambling to fill out the list. Just isn't deep.
sigh.
But everyone is getting inflated, sucky players, right?
"Please list talented players who didn't work hard, preferably ones were were highly ranked recruits that never amounted to anything of substance. Also, if you could find out which players(higher or lower ranked recruits) are usually on winning teams. Thanks."
Donnell Harvey
Jason Fraser
Marvin Stone
Von Wafer
Evan Burns
Ray Young
Chris Rodgers
Mike Jones
Abdou Diame
Derrick Caracter
Corey Benjamin
Lester Earl
Ronnie Fields
Vassil Evtimov
Ndubi Ebi
James Lang
Earl Smith
Sebastian Telfair
Gerald Green
Andray Blatche
Sorry pic
Bracey Wright.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/w/wrighbr02.html
are you being sarcastic?
Damn.
Angel or bust, peeps.
@AdamZagoria: D`Angelo Harrison confirms his top 4 is Marquette, Okla State, Baylor & St John`s...will take unofficial to SJU this wknd or Monday
Its a powerespect notion that the 3 stars work harder than the 5 stars by virtue of being shittier.
:powerespect:powerespect approved!!
If it makes anybody feel any better, Boatright is back to listing us again, even says we've offered, I'd really have to question is that reported offer is legit at this point but, hey, I guess we'll just have to wait it out. Update does state he does not have a definite time frame for his decision and he may wait until the Spring to sign. Only visit lined up at this time is to Providence in late September:
"West Virginia, UConn, Kansas State, Miami, UTEP, Wake Forest, Providence, DePaul, and Minnesota were the schools Boatright listed. He claims offers from all of them and noted that others are involved as well."
http://providence.scout.com/2/994991.html
I'm afraid it is, had the chance to watch him play (on TV) at the Adidas Nations event a couple weeks back, don't see how he could weigh more than 150 at this point. There's no question he's a high-level athlete who's capable of creating for himself or his teammates at any time, but, yes, he could stand to put some solid lbs on his frame, as long as he doesn't lose his explosiveness off the dribble, that's what makes him a Top 100 prospect.
This kid must be lightning quick.
Quote@AdamZagoria: D`Angelo Harrison confirms his top 4 is Marquette, Okla State, Baylor & St John`s...will take unofficial to SJU this wknd or Monday
You have to be f*cking kidding me.
Damn.
Angel or bust, peeps.
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.
i almost wish they'd been 152 and 155. having them in the top 150 makes the messageboarding harder.
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.
I don't think it's really a matter of us not getting him but if we want him
IMO, this 1 doesn't hurt as bad as Harrison and was fairly predictable but just so everybody knows, Cunningham no longer has KSU on his list. Has top 5 of SMU, Boston College, Texas Tech, Purdue, and Arizona St.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1117166
IMO, this 1 doesn't hurt as bad as Harrison and was fairly predictable but just so everybody knows, Cunningham no longer has KSU on his list. Has top 5 of SMU, Boston College, Texas Tech, Purdue, and Arizona St.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1117166
Or KSU no longer has him on their list?
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.
I don't think it's really a matter of us not getting him but if we want him
If that's the case why don't we just go ahead and take angel and put the full court press on all these long shot studs. If we sign one, we say sorry Omari, if not we give him the left over scholly.
Can't really claim to know the inner-workings of what went on there. Either our staff backed off or Cunningham saw he wasn't a top priority and decided to move on. Either of these scenarios are believable and predictable based on recent happenings in our recruiting.
Can't really claim to know the inner-workings of what went on there. Either our staff backed off or Cunningham saw he wasn't a top priority and decided to move on. Either of these scenarios are believable and predictable based on recent happenings in our recruiting.
there's no fracking way kstate would take 3 mid-level bigs in the worst year for bigs that telep can recall. of course, there should have been no way they'd take 2.
Can't really claim to know the inner-workings of what went on there. Either our staff backed off or Cunningham saw he wasn't a top priority and decided to move on. Either of these scenarios are believable and predictable based on recent happenings in our recruiting.
there's no fracking way kstate would take 3 mid-level bigs in the worst year for bigs that telep can recall. of course, there should have been no way they'd take 2.
thoughts on the possibility of jhr II going prep for a year or something similar?
OK, so we completely backed off Jack too, right?
Angel is now friends with Kstate Men's Hoops.
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.
I don't think it's really a matter of us not getting him but if we want him
If that's the case why don't we just go ahead and take angel and put the full court press on all these long shot studs. If we sign one, we say sorry Omari, if not we give him the left over scholly.
Because if we sign Angel we're already over the scholly limit. Over by 2 if we give Omari one.
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.
I don't think it's really a matter of us not getting him but if we want him
If that's the case why don't we just go ahead and take angel and put the full court press on all these long shot studs. If we sign one, we say sorry Omari, if not we give him the left over scholly.
Because if we sign Angel we're already over the scholly limit. Over by 2 if we give Omari one.
Yeah, I counted wrong. wow.
so, we're either trying to land some stud with Angel, who loves us, as a backup plan, and Omari is out of luck unless we clear out two rosters spaces....
or, Angel doesn't love us so much, we are desperately offering every stud recruit that even gives us a passing smile in the hallway, but probably won't get one, and if we strike out on A-rod as well we are done for the year, sys kills himself, and we had better be preparing to bring in one hell of an impact class next year, with offers to about 37 point guards.
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just through out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.
I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just through out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.
I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.
So you are the bad person who came up with the power towel! :curse: :curse:
Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just throw out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.
I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.
Former Cardozo big man Ryan Rhoomes will prep at St Stanislaus College Prep in Mississippi, per his mother
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just throw out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.
I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.
Our marketing department is scary bad now as well. Tell us all a story like when you all sat around a table and decided to never spend a penny on professional advertising.
God. I was gonna be like "well, at least we aren't these guys"power towel = greatness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mE9Au3CwM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mE9Au3CwM)
Then I remembered the power towel :users:
Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.
Did you help with the KSTATEO schedule poster?
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just throw out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.
I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.
Our marketing department is scary bad now as well. Tell us all a story like when you all sat around a table and decided to never spend a penny on professional advertising.
North Chicago High's boys basketball team will be playing the host East Aurora Tomcats in a one-day shootout in Aurora next January.
The Tomcats will have 5-foot-11 Ryan Boatright, who is the kid who verbally committed to playing college basketball at USC while he was in eighth grade ... a decision he's since reversed.
Last year, Boatright averaged 26.2 points, 5.8 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 3.3 steals for the state powerhouse.
You have to figure he'll put up 30-50 points playing against North Chicago's fun-and-gun attack.
jack to rutgers.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/997472.html
Quinn Cook may miss his senior year with a knee injury he sustained during the Boost Mobile Elite 24 game, The Washington Post reports.
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.
if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.
if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?
ya, that was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.
if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?
ya, that was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
So we are waiting on him then?
D'Angelo Harrison says he's down to 3 schools -- Marquette, Baylor and SJU http://tinyurl.com/39gkusc
QuoteD'Angelo Harrison says he's down to 3 schools -- Marquette, Baylor and SJU http://tinyurl.com/39gkusc
QuoteD'Angelo Harrison says he's down to 3 schools -- Marquette, Baylor and SJU http://tinyurl.com/39gkusc
adorable that his mother posts these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A6j36k3n0
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.
if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?
ya, that was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
So we are waiting on him then?
were we waiting on freddy?
adorable that his mother posts these.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A6j36k3n0
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.
if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?
ya, that was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
So we are waiting on him then?
were we waiting on freddy?
The ART pattern is pretty clear...
Really breaks my heart that figs played that card. :eek: :frown:
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.
would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's.
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
Nonsense! If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!
Sincerely,
Curtis Kelly's coach
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
Nonsense! If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!
Sincerely,
Curtis Kelly's coach
yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history.
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.
would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's.
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
Nonsense! If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!
Sincerely,
Curtis Kelly's coach
yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history.
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
Nonsense! If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!
Sincerely,
Curtis Kelly's coach
yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history.
I can roll with this :bball:
Don't they have to be transfers though?
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.
would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's.
Billy Donovan, is that you? BTW, nice work with all those 5 stars!
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
He said we are done. :bawl:
Lock er down. :cry:
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
He said we are done. :bawl:
Lock er down. :cry:
lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point :lol: What was he going to say?
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
He said we are done. :bawl:
Lock er down. :cry:
lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point :lol: What was he going to say?
"Recruit like you have 13 available"? :dunno:
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
He said we are done. :bawl:
Lock er down. :cry:
lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point :lol: What was he going to say?
"Recruit like you have 13 available"? :dunno:
"We are going to boot at least one of these losers off the team after the season" :dunno:
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
He said we are done. :bawl:
Lock er down. :cry:
lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point :lol: What was he going to say?
"Recruit like you have 13 available"? :dunno:
"We are going to boot at least one of these losers off the team after the season" :dunno:
"There are always uncertainties" :dunno:
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
He said we are done. :bawl:
Lock er down. :cry:
lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point :lol: What was he going to say?
"Recruit like you have 13 available"? :dunno:
"We are going to boot at least one of these losers off the team after the season" :dunno:
"There are always uncertainties" :dunno:
"Martavious Irving sucks" :dunno:
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
He said we are done. :bawl:
Lock er down. :cry:
lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point :lol: What was he going to say?
"Recruit like you have 13 available"? :dunno:
"We are going to boot at least one of these losers off the team after the season" :dunno:
"There are always uncertainties" :dunno:
"Martavious Irving sucks" :dunno:
I can live with that.
Prob is that Tay "fits"
Bye, Nick....it's been real.
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.
would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's.
Billy Donovan, is that you? BTW, nice work with all those 5 stars!
Thanks. Always good to hear from well wishers.
Gotta tell you, those back-to-back NC's still feel REAL FRACKING GOOD!
Still poppin collars.
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
Nonsense! If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!
Sincerely,
Curtis Kelly's coach
yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history.
I can roll with this :bball:
Don't they have to be transfers though?
beasley was a super-lazy head case. Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank. With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.
would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's.
Billy Donovan, is that you? BTW, nice work with all those 5 stars!
Thanks. Always good to hear from well wishers.
Gotta tell you, those back-to-back NC's still feel REAL FRACKING GOOD!
Still poppin collars.
Which of your NC players were 5-Star recruits, I can't remember?
EPIC FAIL
Right after Figger told 5-star players they weren't wanted at our school, he began effusively praising Colon and Energy. Forget their statlines--they're amazingly hard workers, you see, and team leaders. You rabble can't see what they bring, but we can see it. Warm up your hard working two-stars that fit our mold, frackers!
:barf::flush:
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
Nonsense! If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!
Sincerely,
Curtis Kelly's coach
yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history.
I can roll with this :bball:
Don't they have to be transfers though?
beasley was a super-lazy head case. Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank. With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).
To be fair, Beasley was pretty lazy when he played for Frank, he was just miles ahead of everyone else on the floor. Dude didn't play 5 minutes of defense that entire season. Even as a lazy head case in the NBA he's scoring 15ppg and half the time doesn't even get to play the 4th quarter.
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
Nonsense! If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!
Sincerely,
Curtis Kelly's coach
yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history.
I can roll with this :bball:
Don't they have to be transfers though?
beasley was a super-lazy head case. Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank. With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).
To be fair, Beasley was pretty lazy when he played for Frank, he was just miles ahead of everyone else on the floor. Dude didn't play 5 minutes of defense that entire season. Even as a lazy head case in the NBA he's scoring 15ppg and half the time doesn't even get to play the 4th quarter.
Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
Nonsense! If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!
Sincerely,
Curtis Kelly's coach
yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history.
I can roll with this :bball:
Don't they have to be transfers though?
beasley was a super-lazy head case. Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank. With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).
To be fair, Beasley was pretty lazy when he played for Frank, he was just miles ahead of everyone else on the floor. Dude didn't play 5 minutes of defense that entire season. Even as a lazy head case in the NBA he's scoring 15ppg and half the time doesn't even get to play the 4th quarter.
Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?
He did it in such a lacksadaisical manner, though.
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.
would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's.
Billy Donovan, is that you? BTW, nice work with all those 5 stars!
Thanks. Always good to hear from well wishers.
Gotta tell you, those back-to-back NC's still feel REAL FRACKING GOOD!
Still poppin collars.
Which of your NC players were 5-Star recruits, I can't remember?
EPIC FAIL
Which ones on last year's team were? Boynton and ????
Just STFU, sugar dick. Your incredible stupidity is obviously an act. No one is as genuinely stupid as you.
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape." :dunno:
Nonsense! If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!
Sincerely,
Curtis Kelly's coach
yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history.
I can roll with this :bball:
Don't they have to be transfers though?
beasley was a super-lazy head case. Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank. With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).
To be fair, Beasley was pretty lazy when he played for Frank, he was just miles ahead of everyone else on the floor. Dude didn't play 5 minutes of defense that entire season. Even as a lazy head case in the NBA he's scoring 15ppg and half the time doesn't even get to play the 4th quarter.
Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?
So did Sam Perkins and Derrick Coleman
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2012890
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2012890
You've got to be kidding
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Chandler-Parsons-46675;_ylt=Ak7YP_XiEb8VXsnZSQjl3T7asJB4
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2012890
You've got to be kidding
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Chandler-Parsons-46675;_ylt=Ak7YP_XiEb8VXsnZSQjl3T7asJB4
Sugar dick, Rivals ranked him higher than anyone. (By far).
http://home.roadrunner.com/~rsci/RSCI_100_Final_2007.htm
He's less of a 5 star than Jason Bennett.
Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?
So did Sam Perkins and Derrick Coleman
Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?
So did Sam Perkins and Derrick Coleman
Sam Perkins and Derrick Coleman were amazing college basketball players... WTF was your point with that? That they weren't great NBA players? WGAF.
My point is made. If we don't get one of the 25 five-star players every season its not the end of the world, and the staff isn't lazy. We've had one awesome season in the last 21 years, and our campus is 95% white.
O.k. so tell me what 5* freshmen on K-States team was a large contributer last year? My point is that 5* have an entitlment issue and Frank will not put up with that. I think Beasley is an exception to the rule. I think he worked harder than most people give him credit because he was so good he made it look easy. And I think he has a good set up with his mom moving with him to Manhattan she made sure he was putting his work in at least on the floor.
I will promise you Frank Martin can get more production and grit from a 3* that wants to be here and play than a 5* who is just using this as a stay over till the NBA. He is building a program not a river of 1 and dones. Don't get me wrong if we can get a Beasley every 5 years I would love to have them but that is not realistic at this stage, lets get 3-4 NCAA tournaments in a row a couple more E8's Final fours and then we will be looked at by the 5*. KSU has still not done much on the national stage outside of one season. Although it was a great season and next year should be just as good if not better and maybe then we will be getting more top 50 kids looking our way.
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
Maybe we should get not-lazy but not-super-hard-working 4-stars? :dunno:
Maybe we should get not-lazy but not-super-hard-working 4-stars? :dunno:
speaking for the fans, we will accept that compromise if the staff will.
How useful are the user ratings on Rivals? Angel has an average user rating of 4.54 stars out of 5 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Angel-Rodriguez-101432), from 46 users. Are these just GPC tards, or might they be people with some insight?
Maybe we should get not-lazy but not-super-hard-working 4-stars? :dunno:
speaking for the fans, we will accept that compromise if the staff will.
espn rankings updated. they like gipson more than others (71). meh on diaz, hate ar-t.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings
espn rankings updated. they like gipson more than others (71). meh on diaz, hate ar-t.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings
Not to be a stickler but it looks like Gipson is actually #70. Woot!
Has anyone mentioned that Gipson is #70 (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player?id=78455&_slug_=thomas-gipson&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmens-college-basketball%2frecruiting%2fplayer%3fid%3d78455%26_slug_%3dthomas-gipson) on the ESPNU 100 list, or is this a new development? :surprised:
Uh, yeah, I brought this up yesterday on this thread.Has anyone mentioned that Gipson is #70 (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player?id=78455&_slug_=thomas-gipson&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmens-college-basketball%2frecruiting%2fplayer%3fid%3d78455%26_slug_%3dthomas-gipson) on the ESPNU 100 list, or is this a new development? :surprised:
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:bang:
Article basically states/implies Rodriguez ran with them at some point, which is certainly news to me, but no real revelations about his recruitment.
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good job by gipson's mother. doing the kstate media's job for them.
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good job by gipson's mother. doing the kstate media's job for them.
She's really into it which is great
She's really into it which is great
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good job by gipson's mother. doing the kstate media's job for them.
Pic isn't showing up for me. But i bet he looks adorable, along with Frank.
He's undersized but he goes hard as crap. Once Frank and Scott program his ass, he will be a load.
QuoteHe's undersized but he goes hard as crap. Once Frank and Scott program his ass, he will be a load.
pastrana on gipson.
pastrana on gipson.
:dunno:
Just spoke with ESPNU 100 PG Ryan Boatright he has had Prov and Miami(FL) in for home visits with WVU coming sunday and UCONN on the 20th.
I'm sure we saw Angel.
don't have gpc acct, but a thread title is talking about jakarr sampson. sys, rusty?
don't have gpc acct, but a thread title is talking about jakarr sampson. sys, rusty?
The mention was a mistake. Should have said KU.
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good job by gipson's mother. doing the kstate media's job for them.
She's really into it which is great
don't have gpc acct, but a thread title is talking about jakarr sampson. sys, rusty?
The mention was a mistake. Should have said KU.
One of the top uncommitted players in the Class of 2011 is D’Angelo Harrison, a 6-foot-3 shooting guard who attends Dulles High School in Fort Bend (TX). Harrison had an impressive summer on the AAU scene with the Franchize All-Stars and is once again considering four colleges in the recruiting process.
Harrison told NBE earlier today that he will be visiting Baylor next weekend and confirmed that Oklahoma State is indeed back in the mix after he briefly removed the Cowboys from his list a couple weeks ago.
“Yes I am,” Harrison responded via text message when asked if he was considering Oklahoma State again.
Harrison told NBE that he will be visiting Baylor “next weekend” and that he had in home visits from “Marquette last Thursday and Oklahoma State today.”
St. John’s is the fourth team on his list. The Red Storm are expected in for a visit next week with Harrison and his family. While on the East Coast for the recent 5-Star NY Super Session, Harrison took an unofficial visit to St. John’s.
D’Angelo Harrison is one of the top uncommitted players in the class of 2011 and NBE will keep readers updates as his decision draws closer.
QuoteOne of the top uncommitted players in the Class of 2011 is D’Angelo Harrison, a 6-foot-3 shooting guard who attends Dulles High School in Fort Bend (TX). Harrison had an impressive summer on the AAU scene with the Franchize All-Stars and is once again considering four colleges in the recruiting process.
Harrison told NBE earlier today that he will be visiting Baylor next weekend and confirmed that Oklahoma State is indeed back in the mix after he briefly removed the Cowboys from his list a couple weeks ago.
“Yes I am,” Harrison responded via text message when asked if he was considering Oklahoma State again.
Harrison told NBE that he will be visiting Baylor “next weekend” and that he had in home visits from “Marquette last Thursday and Oklahoma State today.”
St. John’s is the fourth team on his list. The Red Storm are expected in for a visit next week with Harrison and his family. While on the East Coast for the recent 5-Star NY Super Session, Harrison took an unofficial visit to St. John’s.
D’Angelo Harrison is one of the top uncommitted players in the class of 2011 and NBE will keep readers updates as his decision draws closer.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0915/dangelo-harrison-sets-baylor-visit/
have seen where he's supposed to be a marq lock and where he's supposed to be a baylor lock. either way, supposedly his aau coach is in control. sigh.
Galveston (Texas) Ball small forward Terran Petteway has been in contact with the coaching staff at Texas Tech since the spring. The 2011 prospect is now preparing for his first trip to West Texas this weekend for an official visit to the program....
Aside from Texas Tech, Petteway holds offers from Bradley, Clemson, Colorado, Colorado State, Creighton, Houston, Mississippi, North Texas, Oregon, Penn State, Pepperdine, SMU, and UTEP.
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Is there a reason why this kid hasn't committed yet? All I've heard is how impressed he is with our program and how we are the frontrunners for him but it just seems like the longer this plays out, a school like Miami might steal him out from under us.
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Doesn't seem he has the skills for QB at D1 level. We'll be pretty set at RB, and WR.
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Doesn't seem he has the skills for QB at D1 level. We'll be pretty set at RB, and WR.
I think we are looking at playing him at point guard, but I wouldn't consider myself in "the know".
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Thomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW
QuoteThomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW
emaw from gipson's mother.
QuoteThomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW
emaw from gipson's mother.
I can see Frank learned from Tony...go for the mom.
QuoteThomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW
emaw from gipson's mother.
I can see Frank learned from Tony...go for the mom.
lol, very dissimilar situations/moms
QuoteThomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW
emaw from gipson's mother.
I can see Frank learned from Tony...go for the mom.
lol, very dissimilar situations/moms
Are you saying she didn't birth that [redacted]?
NBESports
Ryan Boatright is concentrating on five schools, but still open to other potential suitors as the NBE Top 100... http://fb.me/xKHrp7en
NBESports
Ryan Boatright has had recent in-homes with Providence, WVU, Miami and UConn is expected Monday. Boatright...
maybe he's concentrating on KSU 5 times :dunno:QuoteNBESports
Ryan Boatright is concentrating on five schools, but still open to other potential suitors as the NBE Top 100... http://fb.me/xKHrp7en
Don't suppose we are one of them but still curious. Anyone know?
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Quinn Cook will take an unofficial to Duke on Saturday
robcassidy22
Word is #KState coaches Brad Underwood and Frank Martin will be in Wichita this wednesday to take in Perry Ellis' open gym session.
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Word is #KState coaches Brad Underwood and Frank Martin will be in Wichita this wednesday to take in Perry Ellis' open gym session.
Whatever happened to bbhoops? Was he left behind at goEMAWCopyCat, or did he stop posting after the posts making fun of Ellis dropping in the rankings?
QuoteRyan Boatright has had recent in-homes with Providence, WVU, Miami and UConn is expected Monday. Boatright...
yeah, kstate bowed out of that race a while back. really don't think they are recruiting any '11s other than ar-t.
jeffrey was touting this guy early in the summer.QuoteGalveston (Texas) Ball small forward Terran Petteway has been in contact with the coaching staff at Texas Tech since the spring. The 2011 prospect is now preparing for his first trip to West Texas this weekend for an official visit to the program....
Aside from Texas Tech, Petteway holds offers from Bradley, Clemson, Colorado, Colorado State, Creighton, Houston, Mississippi, North Texas, Oregon, Penn State, Pepperdine, SMU, and UTEP.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1126717
Terran Petteway 6'5 w (galveston ball hs) commits to Tx Tech!
Josiah Turner to AZ
Robert Goff has committed to Oklahoma.
coach coming 2day.
Quote from: omari lawrencecoach coming 2day.
a kstate coach, presumably.
coming where? Cloud?
coming where? Cloud?
yeah, i'd imagine. it's pretty well confirmed that he's there.
no idea if he's playing. i imagine we'll find out fairly soon. or 42 could ask.
if not, presumably the staff feels like giving up one of their out-of-state 'ships is worth it for help from the kstate staff w. in-state recruits. or maybe they're just super emaw.
Jerome Seagears of DC Assault has committed to Rutgers, multiple reports say.
QuoteJerome Seagears of DC Assault has committed to Rutgers, multiple reports say.
Reaction when Cook ends up at KU?
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Duke, Carolina, Kansas, Villanova and UCLA all trying to get Quinn Cook to visit, but nothing set, sources say
Reaction when Cook ends up at KU?
Reaction when Cook ends up at KU?
We'll burn my DC Assault hat in front of the Ernie Barrett statue before the KU game.
QCook323Quinn Cook's twitter. He's with Quinn right now so it's either Quinn messing with him or he's picked a weird way to announce it. :dunno:
This is Sidiki Johnson. Im now reconsidering other schools!
QCook323
Everybody that was Keith playing around!! Sidiki is still committed to Arizona!! RiP DAD!
cook to ku is a longshot. i'd put money on him never visiting. he's elite though, as good as turner.
cook to ku is a longshot. i'd put money on him never visiting. he's elite though, as good as turner.
Him to KU would be amazing message boarding. Don't get in front of that sys.
if cook does go to KU, does that mean we get to snobbishly ask them what they are going to do when their DC Assault pipeline runs dry?
The banner that ku will hang if they get cook to visit will be unlike any unfurled before it.
Top 150 for '11 from NBE, Gip and Diaz at 126 and 127 respectively::babywillie:
126) Thomas Gipson – PF/6?7/Cedar Hill/TX (Kansas State): A slightly undersized big man who has a sound overall skill set and rebounds well
127) Adrian Diaz – PF/6?11/Miami-Hialeah Lakes/FL (Kansas State): Long, mobile, active big man has great height, rebounds well, knows how to play the game and can score the ball
two wooly posts in a row
At 6-foot-8 and 232 pounds, Duncanville's most valued prospect, Luke Mergerson is sorting through his offers. Programs from Conference USA, the Colonial, and Northeast have official visits set for three consecutive weekends in October.
"I am going to Tulane October 8, North Carolina Wilmington October 15, and Mount St. Mary's October 22," said Mergerson.
In addition to the three visits that Mergerson has set, he has his eye on two Ivy League schools.
"Cornell and Brown are on my list, but I need to take the ACT," added Mergerson. "I would like to be a Sports Agent and both schools have great Law programs. They are also a place where I could go in and play as a freshman."
"The highlight of the tour of the campus was the library, the University library, I'll never forget that," Kravish said. "When we were walking to it, Mohamed (Muqtar) pointed to this grassy area ahead of us, and said, 'Beneath this, five stories deep, is the library. I mean, I just, when we went in there, first of all, it felt like an old Greek building, like the Parthenon, with the pillars and everything. That was cool, and then I walk in and the ceiling is engraved, and it just looked so cool. And then, we walked to the stairs, and it's this spiral staircase where you can look down all five floors. It was cool. That had to be the highlight of that tour. And they have more than just that library. They have a library for each specific area, like they have a science and whatever library, a business library and then they've got that main one."...
Coming all the way from Lee's Summit, Mo., Kravish saw some things he wasn't exactly familiar with. You know, trees, hills, things like that....
"I'm going to meet with my coaches again and my family, so we're going to talk through some things," Kravish said. "I'll have a lot better understanding and a lot better view of things then. I'm guessing a week to two weeks after my Colorado visit.
have seen where he's supposed to be a marq lock and where he's supposed to be a baylor lock. either way, supposedly his aau coach is in control. sigh.
Texas Shooting Guard D'Angelo Harrison is "leaning heavily" towards St. John's, according to @BrandonTierney.
Seems like :AA: was definitely a factor in his decision.
http://www.1350kman.com/news/?p=5406
have seen where he's supposed to be a marq lock and where he's supposed to be a baylor lock. either way, supposedly his aau coach is in control. sigh.QuoteTexas Shooting Guard D'Angelo Harrison is "leaning heavily" towards St. John's, according to @BrandonTierney.
:dunno:
California lands Lee's Summit North Power Forward David Kravish.
Grumblings Cook is announcing soon. Before LNATP?!?! :eek:who cares
Grumblings Cook is announcing soon. Before LNATP?!?! :eek:
D'Angelo Harrison will announce on Thursday between St. John's, Baylor, Marquette & Oklahoma State.
D'angelo Harrison to annouce his college decision thurs @ 3pm via ESPN feed. Yes, grandma confirmed! She is asking for everyone to please respect the fact that D'angelo wants to have his day by releasing his own news first! No spoilers.
Harrison To St John's
Cannen Cunningham to SMU.
Louisville is Big East, right?
What are the odds we lose him to Conf USA?
We ranked Willie Reed in our Top 25 impact players in college & now he has left SLU-will he end up at Kansas State?
QuoteWe ranked Willie Reed in our Top 25 impact players in college & now he has left SLU-will he end up at Kansas State?
from kcprephoops. i wouldn't think that he just randomly threw kstate's name out there. and there was a guy on gpc saying he'd heard something about this too.
hard to imagine, but who knows?
Do not want and do not need.Yeah, who needs another athletic 6-8/9 4/5 with post moves who can rebound and defend the basket? Especially ones who go for 20/15 against ND and 18/13 on Xavier. It would really suck to put another guy like that on our roster in case Wally goes pro. Plus, everybody knows Diaz and Gipson are going to show up on campus ready to dominate. He'd probably never even see the court. Worse yet, every guy we sign ends up clogging up our roster until he uses up his eligibility. Why take a chance?
It would really suck to put another guy like that on our roster in case Wally goes pro.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/article_f841bd84-9dde-5ed3-b92a-e5e102af552c.html
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how are the powertards going to react to an alleged raper on our team? :users:
how are the powertards going to react to an alleged raper on our team? :users:
they'll argue about it for a thread or two, then go out en masse and tell everyone they see that the chick was a slut and that snyder would never allow a mcmw on the team.
how are the powertards going to react to an alleged raper on our team? :users:
Sys, I know we weren't in on this kid but I think I remember talking about him alittle. Cezar Guerrero committed to Western Kentucky today which was a WTF moment for me. Looked like he had offers from OU, KU , Indiana, CU among other schools. Think he was over valued or what?
Strengths: Extremely athletic and long power forward … He has a very lanky and wiry frame … His springy legs allow him to get off the ground very quickly... before exploding … He has...good reflexes and shows the ability to catch … He runs the floor well, Finishes strong at and above the rim … Has a soft touch …
So far, I love this place," Rodriguez said during the school's basketball-launching event. "Honestly, for me, it's all about playing time and the type of game the team plays. I have to fit in with the system. That's pretty much it."
"They way they play the game is the way I play the game," Rodriguez said. "Coach Martin says I'm going to be a perfect for the system."
"I'm planning on taking all my visits," he said. "Then, I'll sit down and talk to my coaches. Then, I'll make a commitment. I'm planning on signing in the last signing period."
"All three of them are about even," he said on Friday. "I want to visit and see that everything I've been told is for real at all these schools. Then I'll make my decision."
How does Reed's eligibility likely play out? 2 to play 1?
Boatright to West Virgina, I think Huggs really got a baller here.He is a baller indeed.
http://www.wvillustrated.com/wvubasketball/story/id/385
ncstate ar-t update.:bang: :goodbyecruelworld: :bawl:
http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/
ncstate ar-t update.
http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/
Love the tactic of asking players about specific recruits. At media day. :lol:
I would put the full court press on Angel, but i cant find him!Found him. :crossfingers:
Thomas Gipson swears up and down We have no more schollys in 2011............................. Why are we still recruiting Angel?! are we going to dump diaz or gipson? Or is Frank plan on a transfer/draft?
Been :bigtoke: apologiesThomas Gipson swears up and down We have no more schollys in 2011............................. Why are we still recruiting Angel?! are we going to dump diaz or gipson? Or is Frank plan on a transfer/draft?
there's a whole effing thread on this below. stop 'tarding up the recruiting thread.
Shane Larkin has committed to DePaul.
Quincy Miller and Deuce Bello to Baylor as expected :frown:
3starmeyer Jerry Meyer:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Ryan Boatright has opened his recruiment. UNLV, oklahoma and Uconn now.
Quote3starmeyer Jerry Meyer:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Ryan Boatright has opened his recruiment. UNLV, oklahoma and Uconn now.
Quote3starmeyer Jerry Meyer:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Ryan Boatright has opened his recruiment. UNLV, oklahoma and Uconn now.
interesting. there was some speculation that boatright was surprised that wv took another pg right after he committed. i guess the speculation was right.
if reed makes it to kstate next semester, i wonder if diaz will experience similar surprise?
Didn't Frank already do what Huggs did by bringing in Reed after Diaz had commited?
EvanDanielscout Evan Daniels
Hearing Connecticut may be the early leader in the Ryan Boatright sweepstakes now that he's reopened his recruitment.
Just heard from Breakdown's Kenny Gillion, Standout Players from the Battle of the Rankings Camp were Angel Rodriguez, Adrian Diaz, Daniel Sapp, Malik Martin, Joel James, Demetrius Henry, Tim Dixon and Billydee Williams.
rankin tweet.QuoteJust heard from Breakdown's Kenny Gillion, Standout Players from the Battle of the Rankings Camp were Angel Rodriguez, Adrian Diaz, Daniel Sapp, Malik Martin, Joel James, Demetrius Henry, Tim Dixon and Billydee Williams.
Damn that Florida Hoops subscription, just $4.95 a month!
http://www.floridahoops.com/
Billydee Williams.
Damn that Florida Hoops subscription, just $4.95 a month!
http://www.floridahoops.com/
no known kstate targets. maybe vol 2?
http://www.floridahoopsrecruits.com/2010-breakdown-battle-for-the-rankings-recap-vol-1/
Rodriguez update from Florida Hoops Recruits. I know a lot of recruits say it, but hadn't heard the "I want early PT" line from Rodriguez yet, also he must have had some affiliation with Gold Coast, as their director heaps praise on him.
http://www.floridahoopsrecruits.com/angel-rodriguez-has-trimmed-his-list-to-three/
Rodriguez update from Florida Hoops Recruits. I know a lot of recruits say it, but hadn't heard the "I want early PT" line from Rodriguez yet, also he must have had some affiliation with Gold Coast, as their director heaps praise on him.
http://www.floridahoopsrecruits.com/angel-rodriguez-has-trimmed-his-list-to-three/
yeah, they keep claiming he played for them. i suppose it must be true, but i can't think of when it would have been.
He's Michael Jordan with a better handle and more intangibles
Quote from: that guy's description, basicallyHe's Michael Jordan with a better handle and more intangibles
If he wants to play early, NC State wouldnt be the pick. ( Ryan Harrow).
I know who ryan harrow is. IMO he has the best handle's in his freshman class. BALLER!.If he wants to play early, NC State wouldnt be the pick. ( Ryan Harrow).
Cousin Javi might have to give up the starting PG spot, google "Future of NC St Basketball", Harrow can ball.
I know who ryan harrow is. IMO he has the best handle's in his freshman class. BALLER!.If he wants to play early, NC State wouldnt be the pick. ( Ryan Harrow).
Cousin Javi might have to give up the starting PG spot, google "Future of NC St Basketball", Harrow can ball.
ar-t and diaz update from last weekend's camp. prince-martin also mentioned.
http://breakdownmagazine.com/dailybreakdown/index.cfm?textID=2010
Didn't Art say that Angel would be announcing in Feb?
Miami (Fla.) Dr. Krop three-star point guard Angel Rodriguez has set three official visits in an effort to potentially make his college selection in time for the early signing period. The 5-11, 180-pound point guard has already taken one of those visits and will see two more schools over the next two weekends.
Rodriguez took an official visit to Kansas State for the Wildcats' Madness in Manhattan event the weekend of Oct. 15, and is scheduled to see Louisville next.
"He's going tomorrow," confirmed Dr. Krop head coach Shakey Rodriguez. "He's going to visit NC State the following weekend and after all three visits are done then me and him are going to sit down, discuss it and see where he's at. I don't think there is any lean right now."
Rodriguez goes into this weekend's official visit with a pretty good feel for head coach Rick Pitino and his staff. He will be evaluating the opportunity for early playing time and checking out the campus and facilities at Louisville.
"He's going to watch them practice and go from there," Coach Rodriguez said. "Coach Pitino has spent a lot of time in Miami and Angel has had a chance to spend time with him.
"I don't think style of play is an issue because we play pretty much the same way. I know his style of play and I coach pretty much the same style. He's up-tempo, he presses and he expects players to play with a certain level of intensity. He knows how he's going to be in practice, so that's not going to be any shock to him. He most importantly wants to see that he has a chance to play."
Coach Rodriguez has a strong familiarity with Pitino and members of his staff. He has worked closely with Louisville's head man on the recruiting trail in years past.
"I've had two of my players play for him. Gimel Martinez and Allen Edwards were part of his Kentucky teams and had very good careers," Coach Rodriguez said. "Mark Lieberman was the head coach at Miami Pace and he's the assistant that is involved in his recruitment.
"I have absolutely no qualms about Coach Pitino. Of course, Kansas State is a good program too. Coach [Frank] Martin was my jayvee coach years ago, so there's familiarity there too. Then, I've been friends with Monte Towe at NC State for many, many years and they have Javi Gonzalez over there who is actually a cousin of Angel's. So, all three programs have some familiarity there."
N.C. State is the third program in contention for Rodriguez at this stage of the process. He will travel to see the Wolfpack next weekend, Nov. 5, after returning from Louisville. After those three trips are complete, Rodriguez and his coach will sit down to discuss what they have seen in the previous weeks.
"I asked him specifically to not get into anything until we see all three," Coach Rodriguez said. "At the end of that, if it doesn't stick out to you then we can go over some things, readdress these people if we have to and figure out whatever concerns each program has. At the end of the day, if he is not 100 percent sure, we'll go to the late signing period."
"It's just a matter of the kid being comfortable. His primary desire is to be in a program he feels he can fit in and be able to contribute."
That was very encouraging. We are going to have to do something about Diaz's hair though.
It must be nice to have local recruiting coverage.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/22/1886478/top-hoops-prospects-to-participate.html
The Best player at the Ranking Expo was number 317, I'm not sure if any of the other scouts were watching, in my opinion he was the most balance and star quality player over the week.. Does anyone know who number 317 is? What school does he go to?
Coach Simms
2011 – Adrian Diaz, 7’0 Center, Miami Lakes High: Probably the most impressive post player of the weekend was Adrian Diaz. Diaz is skilled for his size, showing his ability to face up his defender and knock down shots. Adrian did not show off many post moves, but his high motor and ability to the run the floor certainly made up for that. Diaz was rewarded numerous times for running the floor by his guards and finished with thunderous dunks, keeping the crowd involved. Diaz must add size and strength to play early at Kansas State next year.
Quincy Miller and Deuce Bello to Baylor as expected :frown:
It's just so ironic that the same day this news came out, Bello and Miller decided to pick Baylor of all schools. It's ironic because that same guy - Brian Clifton of D-One Sports - is Bello and Miller's AAU coach. And that same school that Dwon was hired by two years ago to lure in another top recruit who played for D-One Sports - Baylor - is getting Bello and Miller.
So does that mean the Cliftons still have a strong connection with Drew and Baylor, even though Dwon is now working for Wall in the NBA?
It seems that way. And there is nothing the NCAA can really do to stop them, unless the NCAA decides to investigate and find out the obvious truth behind all of this.
This could now go in '10. Jack left south Kent could early enroll.
This could now go in '10. Jack left south Kent could early enroll.
that dude makes some strange choices.
espn 100 update. no kstate recruits on the list, diaz & gipson rated as 90s, ar-t rated an 89.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2011
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2306/class/2011
espn 100 update. no kstate recruits on the list, diaz & gipson rated as 90s, ar-t rated an 89.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2011
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2306/class/2011
espn 100 update. no kstate recruits on the list, diaz & gipson rated as 90s, ar-t rated an 89.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2011
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2306/class/2011
Thanks Telep, probably better to know the truth now than have Gip arrive on campus next year and have everybody wonder why he's not living up to expectations and not IMMEDIATELY averaging a double double.
This could now go in '10. Jack left south Kent could early enroll.
CBBRumorCentral Rick Pitino could be on the verge of bringing a sneaky good PG to #Louisville: http://es.pn/92MOoF #cbb @dooley_jeff
QuoteCBBRumorCentral Rick Pitino could be on the verge of bringing a sneaky good PG to #Louisville: http://es.pn/92MOoF #cbb @dooley_jeff
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Despite K-State's hand in getting him to CLA, Jones didn't sound overly optimistic that the Wildcats still want to sign him.
"It's open," he said. "They just got two more guards. I'm open."
Adrian Diaz is in town this weekend.
Angel Rodriguez deciding tonight
The point guard garnering a lot of attention this week is Angel Rodriguez, a 5-foot-11 point guard from Florida.
Rodriguez is currently considering Kansas State, Louisville and North Carolina State, and is not sure whether he will sign in the next week or wait until the spring.
“We are going to decide tonight or first thing tomorrow morning,” Art Alvarez, Rodriguez’s AAU coach with the Miami Tropics, said.
Rodriguez attends Dr. Michael M. Krop (Fla.).
Is it just me, or is does the timing of this feel like bad news for us?
Is it just me, or is does the timing of this feel like bad news for us?
I'm probably more interested to see if Diaz signs today than anything honestly.
Is it just me, or is does the timing of this feel like bad news for us?
yeah, good point, frank dominates people in the late period.
Is it just me, or is does the timing of this feel like bad news for us?
yeah, good point, frank dominates people in the late period.
What I mean is that he had visited us, and left saying he would def sign in the late period. Now, he finishes all his visits, and all of a sudden he is signing tonight.
I am sure there is a whole lot of Art happening here, and truthfully I am new enough in following this that I have no feel for Art, but it seems like something after us changed his mind.
A lot of people seem to think shA-rod has more of AR-T's ear than Art.
Breakdown: Most people consider Shane Larkin (DePaul), Daniel Sapp (Clemson), Andre Smith (Winthrop), and yourself the top four point guards in the Florida. You have faced all four of them. How do you compare to them and which one gives you the most trouble?
Angel Rodriguez: Like you said I have played all of them and to me the only one you can say is a true point guard out of all of them is Shane Larkin. They are all good players, but none of them gave me trouble when I played them.
collegiate_hoop: Fwd: Thomas Gipson signs his LOI to attend Kansas State today at his high school 4:15
SYS or Underdog......... Im sure this has already been covered, but if Diaz and Gipson both sign today....WHERE the F*CK is Angel's scholly coming from?
YES!SYS or Underdog......... Im sure this has already been covered, but if Diaz and Gipson both sign today....WHERE the F*CK is Angel's scholly coming from?
RIGHT ON CUE!
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/stevedaveksu/untitled.jpg)
DON'T YOU GET TOO COMFORTABLE EITHER NICK!
The Brandersonation of Jamar will kill KSTATEO and probably me too.
SYS or Underdog......... Im sure this has already been covered, but if Diaz and Gipson both sign today....WHERE the F*CK is Angel's scholly coming from?
all you rubes need to learn some spanish and go back and read the quote again. "the decision" is whether or not to sign in the early period, not to pick a certain school. early or late, he signs with louisville anyway.
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Miami point guard Angel Rodiguez commits to Frank Martin and K-State
:excited: :excited: :drool:
Does this mean that Jamar is going to have career ending eye surgery before next season?
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Miami point guard Angel Rodiguez commits to Frank Martin and K-State
:excited: :excited: :drool:
Hell yes!!!!! :bball:
he has the adorable part down
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx223/DobzTex/Angel_Rodriguez1.jpg)
eff YOU TREYSOLID!
he has the adorable part down
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx223/DobzTex/Angel_Rodriguez1.jpg)
:love:
the adorableness is starting to get unreal around the JYC's.
"This is a perfect example of a kid committing to a coach first over the school," Alvarez said. "Angel wants to play for Frank Martin, so he has committed to him. But he has not signed with K-State.
"Frank is a young, hot commodity. We just want to make sure that everything is going to stay the same in April. There's nothing to read into that. He talked to Frank about it, and he is more than comfortable about that."
Quote"This is a perfect example of a kid committing to a coach first over the school," Alvarez said. "Angel wants to play for Frank Martin, so he has committed to him. But he has not signed with K-State.
"Frank is a young, hot commodity. We just want to make sure that everything is going to stay the same in April. There's nothing to read into that. He talked to Frank about it, and he is more than comfortable about that."
:horrorsurprise:
So he hates us but loves Frank? :frown:
obvious ref. to martin taking a new job. nothing to do with hating manhattan or kstate. jfc, people.
he has the adorable part down
(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx223/DobzTex/Angel_Rodriguez1.jpg)
omg he does
LVille fans couldn't be happier about the decision. :frown:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755&t=6682493
"This is a perfect example of a kid committing to a coach first over the school," Alvarez said. "Angel wants to play for Frank Martin, so he has committed to him. But he has not signed with K-State.
"Frank is a young, hot commodity. We just want to make sure that everything is going to stay the same in April. There's nothing to read into that. He talked to Frank about it, and he is more than comfortable about that."
Don't worry after this season, we're not going to have to worry about Frank leaving . . . nobody is going to want him.
Don't worry after this season, we're not going to have to worry about Frank leaving . . . nobody is going to want him.
Don't worry after this season, we're not going to have to worry about Frank leaving . . . nobody is going to want him.
Don't worry after this season, we're not going to have to worry about Frank leaving . . . nobody is going to want him.
Dax, the perpetual optimist.
Just found this NC State article on Angel while googling. Sorry if it's been posted.
Diamond In The Rough (http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/)
Frank Richards :star: :star: :star: :star: :facepalm: Rivals really missed on that one.Just found this NC State article on Angel while googling. Sorry if it's been posted.
Diamond In The Rough (http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/)
I only hope Angel is better than the last PG we beat out NC State for...
emeh
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 shooting guard Todd Mayo of Notre Dame Prep (MA) tells me he has a list of Baylor, Memphis, UNLV, Kansas, Kansas State & Kent State.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/southernmiss/basketball/recruiting/player-Todd-Mayo-82845
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 shooting guard Todd Mayo of Notre Dame Prep (MA) tells me he has a list of Baylor, Memphis, UNLV, Kansas, Kansas State & Kent State.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/southernmiss/basketball/recruiting/player-Todd-Mayo-82845
I want him
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 shooting guard Todd Mayo of Notre Dame Prep (MA) tells me he has a list of Baylor, Memphis, UNLV, Kansas, Kansas State & Kent State.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/southernmiss/basketball/recruiting/player-Todd-Mayo-82845
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 shooting guard Todd Mayo of Notre Dame Prep (MA) tells me he has a list of Baylor, Memphis, UNLV, Kansas, Kansas State & Kent State.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/southernmiss/basketball/recruiting/player-Todd-Mayo-82845
As much as it pains me to say it, he's probably a step up from Hoopy :frown:
@UD and/or Sys- I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a cac but how do you guys think that effects their recruiting? Seems like some players would shy away from that behavior, yet Scotty seems to land some very nice players. Will it eventually catch up, or is that a common tactic? I guess I'm just curious what downside there is to just offering the eff out of players. We seem to offer few players and don't land the players Baylor does.TIA.
Why would any recruit want to go to Baylor?
@UD and/or Sys- I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a crap but how do you guys think that effects their recruiting? Seems like some players would shy away from that behavior, yet Scotty seems to land some very nice players. Will it eventually catch up, or is that a common tactic? I guess I'm just curious what downside there is to just offering the eff out of players. We seem to offer few players and don't land the players Baylor does.TIA.
Has anyone else noticed that Diaz is in Rivals' top 150 now?
Has anyone else noticed that Diaz is in Rivals' top 150 now?
I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a crap.
I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a crap.
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/02/baylor-offers-a-scholarship-to-8th-grader-adrian-moore/
I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a cac.
http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/02/baylor-offers-a-scholarship-to-8th-grader-adrian-moore/
bossi already shot that down.
Top 10 Motor for the Gipper!
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1163726
Top 10 Motor for the Gipper!
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1163726
for whatever reason my GPC login won't let me read. Please PM or post youknowwhere
Top 10 Motor for the Gipper!
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1163726
for whatever reason my GPC login won't let me read. Please PM or post youknowwhere
rivals rated "The Top 10 Non-stop Motors in the Class of 2010"; Gipper was #10.
@UD and/or Sys- I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a crap but how do you guys think that effects their recruiting? Seems like some players would shy away from that behavior, yet Scotty seems to land some very nice players. Will it eventually catch up, or is that a common tactic? I guess I'm just curious what downside there is to just offering the eff out of players. We seem to offer few players and don't land the players Baylor does.TIA.
i guess one downside could be spreading your recruiting attention too thin, and losing a recruit you want because he feels neglected. with a hard working staff, probably not a big problem.
the real downside is the occasional awkward conversation when someone who thinks they had a real offer tries to commit and finds out they can't. for a psychopath coach, that's not an issue.
Dr. Krop. Who's going to beat these dudes in Fla? Got a 6-9 post named Tyrone Haughton, a junior & Angel Rodriguez. Plus K-State unis.
Watched Jose Juan Berea for 1st time at City of Palms. Watching Angel Rodriguez now. Impossible not to have flashbacks.
Game Eval: I would commit secondary for McAdoo, might in the spring for Rodriguez and Houghton could force a text out of me next year.
Tough nosed. Stubborn at times. Goes for homerun plays a lot. High level offensive package. Great hands. Needs to pick and choose.
Commend the fearlessness of Angel Rodriguez BUT he's got to take better shots and less chances w/ball. Now, he's a tough kid, rebounds too.
Game 1: Norfolk Christian (Va.) 62 Dr. Krop (Miami,Fl.) 60
Norfolk was lead by there All-American 6-foot-8, Senior James McAdoo and his 18 points to go along with 10 rebounds. McAdoo who displayed a polished face-up game with the ability to use either shoulder equally well and even displayed sweeping weak hand hooks will take his services to Chapel Hill next season for the Tarheels.
Norfolk has three other places reach double figures with Mike Murray (15pts/game winning layup), Dontrell Silver (15pts) and Mario Nixons’s double-double with (10pts and 10rbs).
Dr. Krop was lead by Kansas State signee Angel Rodriguez who went for 22 points on the night to go along with 6 assists and 3 steals. Rodriguez who’s owns a complete offensive package with combo scoring moves, ability to shoot the deep ball and court vision will be a solid player for Frank Martin in years to come. 6-foot-2, Senior, Bryan Delancy was infuego from beyond the arch going 6-for-11 totaling 18 points. Hightly touted, and very athletic 2012 big man Tyrone Haughton finished with a quiet 8 points and 7 rebounds, but his prescience in the lane, along with length and athletic ability make him a top big in the country.
Dr. Krop goes into the consolation bracket Saturday afternoon where they will face local program North Port. Norfolk Christian will take on the winner of Milton/Fort Myers late Monday afternoon.
QuoteCommend the fearlessness of Angel Rodriguez BUT he's got to take better shots and less chances w/ball. Now, he's a tough kid, rebounds too.
telep from today, so i guess he prolly was at this morning's game.
QuoteCommend the fearlessness of Angel Rodriguez BUT he's got to take better shots and less chances w/ball. Now, he's a tough kid, rebounds too.
telep from today, so i guess he prolly was at this morning's game.
I know he's got a different skill set, but could he sound any more like Denis?
Rodriguez who’s owns a complete offensive package with combo scoring moves
Commend the fearlessness of Angel Rodriguez BUT he's got to take better shots and less chances w/ball. Now, he's a tough kid, rebounds too.
what would be a good comparo to AR-T? D Lavendar?
what would be a good comparo to AR-T? D Lavendar?
people that see him play seem to use barea. he's puerto rican, don't forget.
what would be a good comparo to AR-T? D Lavendar?
people that see him play seem to use barea. he's puerto rican, don't forget.
what would be a good comparo to AR-T? D Lavendar?
people that see him play seem to use barea. he's puerto rican, don't forget.
Puerto Rico must finish in the top two in next summer's tournament to travel to London in 2012. Pitino met with Dallas Mavericks guard J.J. Barea and Miami Heat point guard Carlos Arroyo -- both Puerto Rico natives -- in Miami on Sunday to gauge their interest and came away impressed.
what would be a good comparo to AR-T? D Lavendar?
people that see him play seem to use barea. he's puerto rican, don't forget.
Another guy that will be hanging out in Louisville with Rick Pitino this summer. :runaway:QuotePuerto Rico must finish in the top two in next summer's tournament to travel to London in 2012. Pitino met with Dallas Mavericks guard J.J. Barea and Miami Heat point guard Carlos Arroyo -- both Puerto Rico natives -- in Miami on Sunday to gauge their interest and came away impressed.
Tough and competitive. Average athlete. Solid handler but not a unique playmaker. Scores from the perimeter but didn't shoot it that well at City of Palms.
Don't see as a 150 prospect.
It doesn't sound like Rodriguez played his way into top 150. Volume shooting point guard who isn't all that quick.
Went 22/70 overall (38.5%) and 5-23 from three (21.7%) with 19 assists to 25 turnovers during his four games at City of Palms.
I'm just sad that he isn't as quick as I was hoping.
I'm just sad that he isn't as quick as I was hoping.
pretty :opcat: of you to assume that he would be the same as denis.
meyer & bossi being mean to ar-t.QuoteTough and competitive. Average athlete. Solid handler but not a unique playmaker. Scores from the perimeter but didn't shoot it that well at City of Palms.
Don't see as a 150 prospect.QuoteIt doesn't sound like Rodriguez played his way into top 150. Volume shooting point guard who isn't all that quick.
Went 22/70 overall (38.5%) and 5-23 from three (21.7%) with 19 assists to 25 turnovers during his four games at City of Palms.
Are we recruiting at a Jim Wooldridge level yet or not? Starting to think we're almost there.
this is depressing... my lord :cry:Are we recruiting at a Jim Wooldridge level yet or not? Starting to think we're almost there.
we don't really have a cartier or a massey on the team.
Angel Rodriguez – 5’11, CG, 2011 (Miami, Fla./ Dr. Krop)
The Kansas State signee did not shoot the ball extremely well this week, but his ability to get into the lane and finish strong despite his small stature was impressive. He has a quick first step and is strong with the ball, making it tough for defenders to stay in front of him. He looks to score more at this point, and he tends to find a way to put the ball in the basket more often than not, but he will have to take better care of the ball and become a consistent distributor at the next level to maximize his potential for the Wildcats.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Cezar-Guerrero-82492
Frank must not like Mexicans.
(http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/r/9a/9aa5b072c3256ee7fe7e6d63140b360e/195977.jpg)
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Cezar-Guerrero-82492
Frank must not like Mexicans.
(http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/r/9a/9aa5b072c3256ee7fe7e6d63140b360e/195977.jpg)
...so is Frank going to fill Freddy's schollie with some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
...so is Frank going to fill Freddy's schollie with some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
hopefully not Omari. I don't like his twitter. It's gross.
...so is Frank going to fill Freddy's schollie with some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
hopefully not Omari. I don't like his twitter. It's gross.
maybe Art has another kid that sucks that frank could snatch up?
Dudes, with Asprilla gone, we're even now(1 over if you count OMoney), but somebody(plural) will inevitably get run in the Spring leaving us to recruit another Juevol Myles level player.
Has AJPC written all over it :dunno:Dudes, with Asprilla gone, we're even now(1 over if you count OMoney), but somebody(plural) will inevitably get run in the Spring leaving us to recruit another Juevol Myles level player.
let's just hope that the staff manages to control themselves with re. to the insane hope that they can pick up one of the spring leftovers that is better than the players already on the team.
the other thing to remember is that they're now down to just a single 2012 to give. pending further developments.
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Thomas Gipson looks to have trimmed down and gotten his bounce back. Haven't seen this side of him since his soph year. Frank Martin would
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Theres a Chris Washburn citing. Bruising matchup between him and Thomas Gipson.
there's a small chance that Omari could be decent isn't there?
what about juco trash?
what about juco trash?
Our man MIR posted this over on GPC, probably needs to be here also
Feast your eyes...
http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769;_ylt=AjDfzfPdFuEyMeloafX7loRrWpB4
I apologize if these guys have been mentioned before, but here are some preps that are still open per ESPN and Rivals:
Jarion Henry (4 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Dallas, TX/Kimball - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578)
Otto Porter (4 star Rivals/4 star ESPN) - Sikeston, MO/Scott County Central - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410)
Eric Katenda (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Bel Aire, KS/Sunrise Christian Academy - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222)
Kevin Johnson (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Woodland Hills, CA/William Howard Taft - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667)
I apologize if these guys have been mentioned before, but here are some preps that are still open per ESPN and Rivals:
Jarion Henry (4 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Dallas, TX/Kimball - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578)
Otto Porter (4 star Rivals/4 star ESPN) - Sikeston, MO/Scott County Central - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410)
Eric Katenda (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Bel Aire, KS/Sunrise Christian Academy - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222)
Kevin Johnson (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Woodland Hills, CA/William Howard Taft - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667)
Forget it, the well is poisoned, no of these kids are going to come to K-State and put up with Frank.
2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.
Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.
2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!
:runaway: Ballplayers alert! :runaway:Quote2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.
Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.
2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!
:runaway: Ballplayers alert! :runaway:Quote2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.
Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.
2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!
Doesn't bode well for next season. Play for the future. Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.
:runaway: Ballplayers alert! :runaway:Quote2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.
Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.
2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!
Doesn't bode well for next season. Play for the future. Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.
:runaway: Ballplayers alert! :runaway:Quote2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.
Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.
2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!
Doesn't bode well for next season. Play for the future. Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.
Well, that settles it. Ojeleye is going to be a key cog in the 2011-2012 season.
:runaway: Ballplayers alert! :runaway:Quote2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.
Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.
2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!
Doesn't bode well for next season. Play for the future. Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.
:runaway: Ballplayers alert! :runaway:Quote2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.
Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.
2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!
Doesn't bode well for next season. Play for the future. Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.
What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.
What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.
What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.
two big differences: we already had Judge and McGruder commitments in hand. And the 2011 class is FAR better than the 2008 class.
What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.
two big differences: we already had Judge and McGruder commitments in hand. And the 2011 class is FAR better than the 2008 class.
Yeah 08' was horrible, even by Wally standards. I'd really be alright with 11' IF we already had an experienced impact pg on the roster.
What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.
two big differences: we already had Judge and McGruder commitments in hand. And the 2011 class is FAR better than the 2008 class.
Yeah 08' was horrible, even by Wally standards. I'd really be alright with 11' IF we already had an experienced impact pg on the roster.
Angel gets on-the-job training.
You really think they will save one?Why use it just to use it? Just setting up for another mediocre player you many need to run off the following year.
You really think they will save one?
You really think they will save one?
I don't think it would be a bad idea. There are still 5 left in the SO class and Samuels is currently the only scholarship JR. Kelly, Pullen, and Asprilla's departure leaves 3 for Rodriguez, Gipson, and Diaz. Judge frees up an extra, but rather than try to find some last ditch 2011 recruit, give it to Peterson for another scholarship in the current JR class, then you have 2 to give for the next class.
You really think they will save one?
I don't think it would be a bad idea. There are still 5 left in the SO class and Samuels is currently the only scholarship JR. Kelly, Pullen, and Asprilla's departure leaves 3 for Rodriguez, Gipson, and Diaz. Judge frees up an extra, but rather than try to find some last ditch 2011 recruit, give it to Peterson for another scholarship in the current JR class, then you have 2 to give for the next class.
Saving one would allow the 'Open Scholarship would've made that' meme to continue.
just that is was difficult to handle.
otto porter is really good. prolly too late to make any headway with him, but he's about the only one worth trying for.
they should bank the 'ship with a walk on till 2012, but they'll prolly pick a no talent juco, then run him off halfway through the '11-'12 season. dumbasses.
Jeremy Jones Prepping For Simeon’s Opener Vs. Oak Hill
By Cavan Walsh
Class of 2009 combo guard Jeremy Jones of Simeon High School is poised to come into his own and breakout this upcoming season after a stellar fall and summer. Jones is a long 6 foot 2 inches with an uncanny ability to knock down shots from long range, and the kid is clutch. With Simeon’s first game in nearly a month’s time, when they will square off with national powerhouse Oak Hill Academy at the Marshall County Hoopfest, Jones is steadily prepping for the season and weighing his college choices.
“Yeah this is our last week of conditioning, and then we start practice next Monday,” stated Jones. “It’s the last week so we made it through, it was alright. I mean it was hard, but it wasn’t it was just long and a lot of running it wasn’t that bad though,” said Jones.
After breakout performances at Nike MDOC, Nike Peach Jam, and AAU Super Showcase the latter two coming in front of dozens of college coaches, Jones recruiting stock really elevated.
“Basically the only two right now are Kent State and University of Detroit. Both have offered, I am supposed to visit Detroit on the 7th of this month, and Kent State hasn’t scheduled a visit yet. I most likely won’t make the Detroit visit on the 7th, but we are rescheduling it. Kyle (Cain) is going to Detroit on the 7th instead. I will visit Kent State also; I just have to set the visit up with them. It’s really just those two schools right now and whoever else will jumps in during the season,” commented Jones.
While Jones is not planning to make a decision anytime soon, he has a few preferences for his future college. “I know for sure that I am waiting to make a decision after the season. I’m just looking for a good program, location, academics, and coaches all that, and just overall where I fit in at.” Also another possibility Jones is looking at is teaming up with his Illinois Warriors teammate and best friend Kyle Cain from T.F. North. Cain is also being heavily recruited by University of Detroit. “It really makes Detroit’s chances a lot better. We talk about it all the time playing in college together,” Jones said.
With lofty goals every year at Simeon they again are no different this year. “Nothing less than state title, I think we can win it all; we got a great chance to do that and win the city also. I can’t tell you how excited I am for the season.”
Junior Jeremy Jones "was the best shooter in our program" last season, Smith said.
@DaveTelep Kansas State going to see former Chi Simeon guard Jeremy Jones of Seward JC. Frank Martin making the trip himself to check him out.
Why are we getting another guard?
Why are we getting another guard?
Telling Russell, Canada, Tay, etc. to GTFO and replacing them with someone as crappy or crappier just like we do every season.....though I would trade Canada for this loser I guess. :dubious:
Why are we getting another guard?
Telling Russell, Canada, Tay, etc. to GTFO and replacing them with someone as crappy or crappier just like we do every season.....though I would trade Canada for this loser I guess. :dubious:
At least Canada can play PG. If we get rid of 95 for this guy, I'm giving up.
Why are we getting another guard?
Telling Russell, Canada, Tay, etc. to GTFO and replacing them with someone as crappy or crappier just like we do every season.....though I would trade Canada for this loser I guess. :dubious:
At least Canada can play PG. If we get rid of 95 for this guy, I'm giving up.
Devon worked too hard to get here plus I hear Frank likes him because he gives him the effort he wants
This thread is a dumpster fire, unless Gipson turns out to be a low post scorer. I have zero confidence we'll see this Diaz fella from Mexico.
This thread is a dumpster fire, unless Gipson turns out to be a low post scorer. I have zero confidence we'll see this Diaz fella from Mexico.
This thread is a dumpster fire, unless Gipson turns out to be a low post scorer. I have zero confidence we'll see this Diaz fella from Mexico.
how come? :confused:
Also, Devon isn't even on scholarship (yet)
This thread is a dumpster fire, unless Gipson turns out to be a low post scorer. I have zero confidence we'll see this Diaz fella from Mexico.
how come? :confused:
There was speculation earlier that he may need prep school....and with our previous scholly count issues I had assumed that this must be the case. But, I dont think Wally and Fred leaving was planned, so I still assume Diaz is prep bound. Hope I am wrong, we will be in troubs with our bigs anyway...
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3930:2010-2011-overall-statistics&catid=58:M%20Basketball&Itemid=175
39% from 3, 52% overall, 73% FT shooter. 113 assists to 72 TOs. 41 steals.
but his coach :love: jfc what a quote.
they're just looking. that's what staffs do.
jfc on the reaction here.
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3930:2010-2011-overall-statistics&catid=58:M%20Basketball&Itemid=175
39% from 3, 52% overall, 73% FT shooter. 113 assists to 72 TOs. 41 steals.
I'd actually take him all things considered.
However, it means we're basically going to do nothing but run and shoot threes next year. Rebounding is out of the question.
but his coach :love: jfc what a quote.
people like matt figger. everyone does.
I think the takeaway is the emphasis on Frank going all the way out to shitty Liberal to evaluate the guy. It's not like he's sending Brad out there while he's going to NYC.
has frank gone to see perry play in person?
I think the takeaway is the emphasis on Frank going all the way out to shitty Liberal to evaluate the guy. It's not like he's sending Brad out there while he's going to NYC.
team had sun & mon off. there better have been three coaches out seeing recruits.
Seward lost last night to an average Colby team(12-13), Jones had 20 pts, 5 asts and 5 TO's
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4141%3Ambb-16-sc-63-colby-70&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172
Yep, the 5 Turnovers makes it a lock that this kid is going to get a K-State offer.
Yep, the 5 Turnovers makes it a lock that this kid is going to get a K-State offer.
Heard K-State is going to check out 7-0 C Jordan Dickerson (Lincoln, NY) This kid has greatly improved over the course of the season.
Seward lost last night to an average Colby team(12-13), Jones had 20 pts, 5 asts and 5 TO's
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4141%3Ambb-16-sc-63-colby-70&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State watched Lincoln (NY) forward Kamari Murphy '12 & center Jordan Dickerson '11 tonight.
A Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.
at least we have death spiral/desperation/spring recruiting to take our minds off not watching kelly play.QuoteA Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103228/nemenja-djurisic
at least we have death spiral/desperation/spring recruiting to take our minds off not watching kelly play.QuoteA Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103228/nemenja-djurisic
at least we have death spiral/desperation/spring recruiting to take our minds off not watching kelly play.QuoteA Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103228/nemenja-djurisic
at least we have death spiral/desperation/spring recruiting to take our minds off not watching kelly play.QuoteA Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103228/nemenja-djurisic
I'm not 100% certain that is even a mexican name
ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.
Quoteebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.
Quoteebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.
if people cared about recruiting like they should, this should blow up like the kelly thread.
they're just looking. that's what staffs do.
jfc on the reaction here.
Quoteebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.
if people cared about recruiting like they should, this should blow up like the kelly thread.
they're just looking. that's what staffs do.
jfc on the reaction here.
:dubious:
Quoteebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.
if people cared about recruiting like they should, this should blow up like the kelly thread.
Quoteebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.
ebosshoops
UNC has also called on Jeremy Jones out at Seward and has indicated that they plan to come out and watch him.
Quoteebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.
if people cared about recruiting like they should, this should blow up like the kelly thread.
Yeah, I asked him bossi about jones and he said that he hasn't seen him enough to have an opinion on him. Says a lot, imo, that a guy who does what bossi does, hasn't taken the time to get an idea on this kid.
that bad?
Quoteebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.Quoteebosshoops
UNC has also called on Jeremy Jones out at Seward and has indicated that they plan to come out and watch him.
:horrorsurprise:
To be fair, does bossi even evaluate JUCO kids?
And to be fair to Frank, putting in the 4 out look we have now should make an easy transition to next year's 5 out look. Jones will look great kicking to Will and McGruds, finishing at the rim, or kicking it to a streaking JHR.
Quoteebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.Quoteebosshoops
UNC has also called on Jeremy Jones out at Seward and has indicated that they plan to come out and watch him.
:horrorsurprise:
I think it's a good sign that our staff is acknowledging that we are going to need some scoring punch and offensive creativity next year.
you may have seen the gpc poster/former seward co player that said jones is more midmajorey than big 12ey?
Djurisic eval from National Prep School Invitational that took place last weekend:
"Nemenja Djurisic (South Kent, Conn./ South Kent)
2011, PF, 6-8, 220 pounds
Djurisic solidified himself as one of the best post players left on the market with a pair of big performances this weekend. While not an explosive athlete, Djurisic has a versatile skill set and excellent feel for the game that make him a perfect fit for a program that likes to run offense. He stretched the floor to the 3-point line and also showed a crafty low-post game making good use of a Vlade Divac flip move. He was rugged and physical inside the paint and consequently able to rebound in traffic on both ends of the floor. Defensively, he was solid in the post, maintaining constant position between the ball and the basket and timely rotations to help on dribble penetration. "
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6098874
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.
one of the best post players left on the market
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.
They had me atQuoteone of the best post players left on the market
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.
Can't find a Rivals profile, is he on any of the scouting sites radars?
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.
They had me atQuoteone of the best post players left on the market
wasn't the 2011 big market shitty to begin with??
Is this the thread you're talking about? If so, the guy says he's never actually seen Jones play, he just recounts the cautionary tale of Tony Smith.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=142292363&sid=889&tid=142292363&style=2&Override=1
If this is not the thread/poster you are referring to, please direct me to it.
i haven't seen him play, but i know a lot of people who have. lets just say the opinions are mixed as to whether he can play in the big 12. if frank gives him a scholly, great; i'll get to root for a kid who played juco ball for my old juco (and coach) and is playing d-1 for my alma mater. however, i'm not going to heap a ton of expectations on the kid, either.
Could probably do worse.
Is this the thread you're talking about? If so, the guy says he's never actually seen Jones play, he just recounts the cautionary tale of Tony Smith.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=142292363&sid=889&tid=142292363&style=2&Override=1
If this is not the thread/poster you are referring to, please direct me to it.
yeah, that's it. i was thinking of this quote. it isn't exactly as i remembered it, but it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence either.Quotei haven't seen him play, but i know a lot of people who have. lets just say the opinions are mixed as to whether he can play in the big 12. if frank gives him a scholly, great; i'll get to root for a kid who played juco ball for my old juco (and coach) and is playing d-1 for my alma mater. however, i'm not going to heap a ton of expectations on the kid, either.
What I do like is that our staff has recognized that we will have a scoring void to fill in our backcourt(and on our roster as a whole) next year and they are at least making SOME effort to fill that hole. Is 1 recruit going to be able do that? Almost certainly no. A lot of JC kids don't amount to much but did anybody really expect J.P. Olukemi to put up the #'s he has this year? Matt Pressey wasn't a really highly rated recruit but he's stepped in and been a solid contributor at Missouri.
In a perfect world, our staff would have had the foresight to see this problem coming and would have put the hard sell on D'Angelo Harrison, Ryan Boatright, or even a Nurideen Lindsey or we'd be able to jump in the hunt for Trevor Lacey. But obviously it's not perfect. If Jones is the best we can do, then wehy sit there and hold on to the ship when there's a CHANCE, even if minimal, that he could make a difference?
I'm telling everyone to look out. Gonna be a lot of talent coming out of Florida in the next couple years.. #2012 #2013.
Isaih "Snoopy" Jones (Christian Life) commits to U A B. Head coach Mike Davis finally gets a Texas hs grad to commit.
Correction: Jones' nickname is "Hoopy"
Jones is now one of the hottest Juco recruits in the country with Kansas State being the latest to offer. “Yeah, Coach Frank Martin and a couple of his assistants have come in and watched me play. They came the other night and by halftime they were leaving, and told my head coach they've seen enough and they wanted me,” said Jones.
Jones sports an impressive list of scholarship offers that should do nothing but grow. "West Virginia, Marquette, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, San Jose State and of course Kansas State."
QuoteJones is now one of the hottest Juco recruits in the country with Kansas State being the latest to offer. “Yeah, Coach Frank Martin and a couple of his assistants have come in and watched me play. They came the other night and by halftime they were leaving, and told my head coach they've seen enough and they wanted me,” said Jones.
Jones sports an impressive list of scholarship offers that should do nothing but grow. "West Virginia, Marquette, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, San Jose State and of course Kansas State."
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news (http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news)
Immediate playing time will be a major factor. "I'm not sure of where I'm going to visit yet because I'm trying stay focused on our season and get to the tournament. But the schools I will visit will be the schools I feel give me the best chance to come in and play right away,” said Jones.
QuoteJones is now one of the hottest Juco recruits in the country with Kansas State being the latest to offer. “Yeah, Coach Frank Martin and a couple of his assistants have come in and watched me play. They came the other night and by halftime they were leaving, and told my head coach they've seen enough and they wanted me,” said Jones.
Jones sports an impressive list of scholarship offers that should do nothing but grow. "West Virginia, Marquette, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, San Jose State and of course Kansas State."
http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news (http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news)
I think this is important too. I bet we're telling him he can be the next Pullen. And if he's good enough, we should be.QuoteImmediate playing time will be a major factor. "I'm not sure of where I'm going to visit yet because I'm trying stay focused on our season and get to the tournament. But the schools I will visit will be the schools I feel give me the best chance to come in and play right away,” said Jones.
This has to mean a current back court guy is getting run. Has to. Has. To.
The OSU/West Virginia/Marquette offers tell me that this is a kid worth putting an offer out there for.
Hopefully its a move that pays off if that's the direction we go.
The OSU/West Virginia/Marquette offers tell me that this is a kid worth putting an offer out there for.
The OSU/West Virginia/Marquette offers tell me that this is a kid worth putting an offer out there for.
Those guys "offer" everyone. It's meaningless. Well, at least OSU and Marquette.
maybe they'll tell a hs big recruit that he should prep for a year because we need a juco guard since nick williams transferred.
would be great if jones could beat nu at the buzzer in a couple years though.
maybe they'll tell a hs big recruit that he should prep for a year because we need a juco guard since nick williams transferred.
would be great if jones could beat nu at the buzzer in a couple years though.
The OSU/West Virginia/Marquette offers tell me that this is a kid worth putting an offer out there for.
Those guys "offer" everyone. It's meaningless. Well, at least OSU and Marquette.
Side note: Buzz Williams is my favorite non-KSU coach.
Side note: Buzz Williams is my favorite non-KSU coach.
did you see him sweat through his suit last game? :eek:
Side note: Buzz Williams is my favorite non-KSU coach.
did you see him sweat through his suit last game? :eek:
That was pretty weird.
Also, he a has a full head of hair and yet he shaves it like he is bald, which is pretty weird as well imo.
(http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/original700/buzz-williams-2009-11-26-17-10-9.jpg)
Would take.
Would take.
you people are bizarre.
Would take.
you people are bizarre.
I would also take Jay Wright, FWIW.
Would take.
you people are bizarre.
MCMW.
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/angel_rodriguez_krop_high_bask.php
Would take.
you people are bizarre.
I would also take Jay Wright, FWIW.
when you email your list of coaching candidates to currie, be sure to attach dax's recruiting hotlist.
what about juco trash?
Our man MIR posted this over on GPC, probably needs to be here also
Feast your eyes...
http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769;_ylt=AjDfzfPdFuEyMeloafX7loRrWpB4
KS JC PG Jeremy Jones will have Bob Huggins, Frank Martin, Jeff Capel and perhaps Herb Sendek on hand to watch him tomorrow.
QuoteKS JC PG Jeremy Jones will have Bob Huggins, Frank Martin, Jeff Capel and perhaps Herb Sendek on hand to watch him tomorrow.
bossi.
QuoteKS JC PG Jeremy Jones will have Bob Huggins, Frank Martin, Jeff Capel and perhaps Herb Sendek on hand to watch him tomorrow.
bossi.
Jeremy Jones, PG, Seward Co. will have Bob Huggins, Frank Martin, Jeff Capel and Buzz Williams front and center for his game today.
Juco Junction's #1 recruit in the country, Karron Johnson, no longer heading to OK St. Sounds like an extremely high risk/high reward recruit, I'll bet somebody takes a chance on him, but I'd really surprised if KSU began showing interest in him.
http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-notebook/article/3542575
Karron Johnson
Would Take
Looks like Jones knew the coaches were there to see him, put up 23 shots with 12 of those being treys, finished w/25 pts, 3 asts, and 5 TO's . Just looking at the box score, it looks like Seward got down big early, so a lot of those attempts may have been in a comeback effort.
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4211%3Ambb-16-sc-75-dodge-city-93&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172
Looks like Jones knew the coaches were there to see him, put up 23 shots with 12 of those being treys, finished w/25 pts, 3 asts, and 5 TO's . Just looking at the box score, it looks like Seward got down big early, so a lot of those attempts may have been in a comeback effort.
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4211%3Ambb-16-sc-75-dodge-city-93&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172
Kind of sounds like a Jake clone in terms of production.
I'm obviously not talking about style of play since I've never seen Jones.
Jeremy Jones had Arizona St, Okie St and Illinois State in as he won conference championship per asst Jay Cyriac. Sun Devils offered
Quote from: TelepJeremy Jones had Arizona St, Okie St and Illinois State in as he won conference championship per asst Jay Cyriac. Sun Devils offered
FWIW, Jones had 17 pts, 6 asts, 5 boards, and 6 TO's in a 20+ pt Seward win over Garden City
Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.
We could swap him for Myles, but I don't see the point. He is Myles 2.0.
Quote from: PanjandrumWho was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.
Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.
Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.
There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.
Quote from: PanjandrumWho was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.
Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.
Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.
There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.
Quote from: PanjandrumWho was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.
Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.
Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.
There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.
Massey :dunno:
Quote from: PanjandrumWho was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.
Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.
Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.
There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.
Massey :dunno:
:facepalm:
My bad.
Quote from: PanjandrumWho was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.
Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.
Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.
There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.
Massey :dunno:
:facepalm:
My bad.
Weren't you the guy that was all pissed off because we weren't putting Richmond on the top 5 all time KSU players list or something?
Quote from: PanjandrumWho was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.
Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.
Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.
There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.
Massey :dunno:
:facepalm:
My bad.
Weren't you the guy that was all pissed off because we weren't putting Richmond on the top 5 all time KSU players list or something?
Quote from: PanjandrumWho was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.
Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.
Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.
There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.
Massey :dunno:
:facepalm:
My bad.
Weren't you the guy that was all pissed off because we weren't putting Richmond on the top 5 all time KSU players list or something?
David Hoskins???
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Wlves left without O
Djurisic has offers from Arizona St, Utah, and NC St. Visiting NC St this weekend and says he has 1 more visit after that and other schools contacting him right now are KSU, Minnesota, and Texas(sorta).
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1195830
Djurisic has offers from Arizona St, Utah, and NC St. Visiting NC St this weekend and says he has 1 more visit after that and other schools contacting him right now are KSU, Minnesota, and Texas(sorta).
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1195830
dubovitsky was kind of fun.
i hate spring recruiting season under martin.
Djurisic has offers from Arizona St, Utah, and NC St. Visiting NC St this weekend and says he has 1 more visit after that and other schools contacting him right now are KSU, Minnesota, and Texas(sorta).
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1195830
dubovitsky was kind of fun.
i hate spring recruiting season under martin.
QuoteWlves left without O
:horrorsurprise:
They obviously needed a little bit of lefty in their life. :fatty:
we've asked for anthony hubbard's transcripts
Hubbard spent three years and 11 months incarcerated after a robbery arrest when he was 17. He's run out of second chances.
we've asked for anthony hubbard's transcripts
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590 (http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590)
Seward 71, Cowley 67 FINAL Cowley led 37-32 at halftime. Jones was amazing … scored game-winner on breakaway layup with 19 seconds left and led all scorers with 29 points.
Seward County 83, Kansas City Kansas 67 FINAL Seward led 39-36 at halftime. Jeremy Jones leads Saints into semifinals with 26 points on 9 of 21 shooting.
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590 (http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590)
looks like he can't shoot 3s. no thanks.
Per this recent update from Iowa Scout site, Hubbard has offers from Iowa, Rutgers, Penn St, Iona. Update alludes to KSU "indicating they will offer" and interest from Louisville.he is almost as old as Drunky Morningtard.
http://iowa.scout.com/2/1053731.html
Per this recent update from Iowa Scout site, Hubbard has offers from Iowa, Rutgers, Penn St, Iona. Update alludes to KSU "indicating they will offer" and interest from Louisville.he is almost as old as Drunky Morningtard.
http://iowa.scout.com/2/1053731.html
Anthony Hubbard:
20 ppg
10 rpg
4 apg
1 spg
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590 (http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590)
I have a lot of interest in Kansas State. Nobody in the nation would not have interest in them if they were interested in you. That is one of the top programs in the nation and they have some great coaches there. Coach Matt Figger is the coach recruiting me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er78kalr0MA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er78kalr0MA):love: :love: :love: :crossfingers: :crossfingers: :crossfingers:
:alleyoop:
I have a lot of interest in Kansas State. Nobody in the nation would not have interest in them if they were interested in you. That is one of the top programs in the nation and they have some great coaches there. Coach Matt Figger is the coach recruiting me.
how much eligibility?
how much eligibility?
DaveTelep:gocho:
Finalists for Seward JC PG Jeremy Jones: Arizona State, K-State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Houston, S. Fla, Arkansas State.
I got money on Arkansas St as Jones' destination
QuoteDaveTelep:gocho:
Finalists for Seward JC PG Jeremy Jones: Arizona State, K-State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Houston, S. Fla, Arkansas State.
QuoteDaveTelep:gocho:
Finalists for Seward JC PG Jeremy Jones: Arizona State, K-State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Houston, S. Fla, Arkansas State.
one tourney team. smoke & mirrors recruiting.
So you think OU's Big 12 title run this weekend is going to knock KSU out of the tournament? Weird.QuoteDaveTelep:gocho:
Finalists for Seward JC PG Jeremy Jones: Arizona State, K-State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Houston, S. Fla, Arkansas State.
one tourney team. smoke & mirrors recruiting.
who is the last BCS tourney team frank beat for a recruit? :dunno: WVU for Judge?
who is the last BCS tourney team frank beat for a recruit? :dunno: WVU for Judge?
louisvillle.
So you think OU's Big 12 title run this weekend is going to knock KSU out of the tournament? Weird.
So you think OU's Big 12 title run this weekend is going to knock KSU out of the tournament? Weird.
wouldn't it be great if they went on a great run in kc and saved capel's job? you should add your prayers into the mix.
who is the last BCS tourney team frank beat for a recruit? :dunno: WVU for Judge?
who is the last BCS tourney team frank beat for a recruit? :dunno: WVU for Judge?
WVU, Baylor, OSU, Cal, Iowa for Thomas Gipson.
Hubbard article.
I don't know. Call me crazy, but I get a good vibe about this guy. It's weird saying that because of his past, but I do.
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114 (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114)
Hubbard article.
I don't know. Call me crazy, but I get a good vibe about this guy. It's weird saying that because of his past, but I do.
http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114 (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114)
i notice that article doesn't mention his jumpshot.
He shot 64% from the field this year. :dunno:
He shot 64% from the field this year. :dunno:
64% = within 5 feet of the basket. his 3 point % and # of attempts indicate that he can't shoot.
If his measurements are somewhat accurate, I think we'd be bringing him in as more of a David Hoskins type than an actual perimeter threat. The guy was locked up for four years, so I'm going to assume he has the mental toughness to survive playing for Frank Martin that some of our recent bigs have lacked. The fact that he averages ten boards a game tells me that he's not afraid to get inside and mix it up, which we'll obviously need next year since we're going to be somewhat short on bigs.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6212623 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6212623)
What will happen to these guys?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2011/arkansas-74;_ylt=AqIZ9UajgfYzPIzpTrvSQQ7VO5B4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2011/arkansas-74;_ylt=AqIZ9UajgfYzPIzpTrvSQQ7VO5B4)
anderson or whoever probably keeps most of them. also 3/5 are from AR.
Early Hawgs wishlist names getting floated include Mark Turgeon, Mike Anderson, Buzz Williams, Frank Martin, Tim Floyd, B. Gillespie.
5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.
Quote5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419
Quote5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419
In all seriousness, just don't effing run people off, frank.
Quote5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419
In all seriousness, just don't effing run people off, frank.
this. i'll lose it if russell leaves.
Quote5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419
In all seriousness, just don't effing run people off, frank.
this. i'll lose it if russell leaves.
Quote5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419
In all seriousness, just don't effing run people off, frank.
this. i'll lose it if russell leaves.
I want him to stay too, but you "losing it" is no ones barometer of what is good and what isn't. You're a drama queen, you'd lose it if Myles left
this. i'll lose it if russell leaves.
I guess I fail to see how Jones from Seward wouldn't be an equal option, and considering Jones has some experience being the man beyond high school, how that intangible wouldn't be better than Russell's experience sitting on the bench for two years.
guys we need scorers. we need them bad. russell has shown he can score at times. frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)
guys we need scorers. we need them bad. russell has shown he can score at times. frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)
I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.
guys we need scorers. we need them bad. russell has shown he can score at times. frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)
I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.
guys we need scorers. we need them bad. russell has shown he can score at times. frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)
I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.
well christ, run everyone off, then. We're all rough ridin' set. :cool:
guys we need scorers. we need them bad. russell has shown he can score at times. frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)
I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.
:powerespect:guys we need scorers. we need them bad. russell has shown he can score at times. frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)
I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.
WGAF if Nick is here or gone next year...I mean really? Meltdown over a good scorer who plays subpar defense and continually makes horrendous decisions at key times? There's a reason the kid can't get off the bench, don't kid yourselves thinking you see something in him that will make him a key contributor next year.
guys we need scorers. we need them bad. russell has shown he can score at times. frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)
I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.
Nick is much better at penetrating than Sprads, and similar size. Though not as quick as 95, he is going to be a better scorer in the lane b/c he has more length.
I agree that keeping Nick would be much better than taking a flyer on Shawshank or Jones.
On the other hand, I don't think losing him would be a huge loss because, frankly, when you look at his kenpom numbers, they look marginally worse than other players in the freshman/sophomore class.
None of the players Frank have run off have been "huge losses" when you look at them individually, but when you look at them overall, they make up a big hit on the program. This trend of replacing 3 star juniors with 3 star freshmen/shitty jucos just isn't a good formula for creating a winning program when you can't beat tourney teams for recruits.
I mean, I hate Irving more than any player in the Frank era but even I don't see the point of running him off. Sure, he's not all-league, but he will be a hell of a lot more successful playing FrankBall than anyone Frank could possibly bring in the spring.
On the other hand, I don't think losing him would be a huge loss because, frankly, when you look at his kenpom numbers, they look marginally worse than other players in the freshman/sophomore class.
None of the players Frank have run off have been "huge losses" when you look at them individually, but when you look at them overall, they make up a big hit on the program. This trend of replacing 3 star juniors with 3 star freshmen/cacty jucos just isn't a good formula for creating a winning program when you can't beat tourney teams for recruits.
I mean, I hate Irving more than any player in the Frank era but even I don't see the point of running him off. Sure, he's not all-league, but he will be a hell of a lot more successful playing FrankBall than anyone Frank could possibly bring in the spring.
On the other hand, I don't think losing him would be a huge loss because, frankly, when you look at his kenpom numbers, they look marginally worse than other players in the freshman/sophomore class.
None of the players Frank have run off have been "huge losses" when you look at them individually, but when you look at them overall, they make up a big hit on the program. This trend of replacing 3 star juniors with 3 star freshmen/shitty jucos just isn't a good formula for creating a winning program when you can't beat tourney teams for recruits.
I mean, I hate Irving more than any player in the Frank era but even I don't see the point of running him off. Sure, he's not all-league, but he will be a hell of a lot more successful playing FrankBall than anyone Frank could possibly bring in the spring.
So you'd rather have a perennial bench dweller who might see minutes every fifth game if he happens to pull his head out of his ass and perform in practice than a wild card juco player who may or may not pan out?
ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Cezar Guerrero has committed to Oklahoma State.
Didn't know KSU was recruiting Cezar
You be nice to Capel with the name calling, he was recently fired.Didn't know KSU was recruiting Cezar
they weren't. some tard wanted him bad or something.
Quoteebosshoops Eric Bossi
Cezar Guerrero has committed to Oklahoma State.
According to poster on GPC, Djurisic spotted on visit to KSU today.
Apparently, coaches still were this morning. Regarding travel itinerary, I have no clue, but using my extremely low NCAATIIQ, I'd think the whole crew would want to head out by at least tomorrow.
Apparently, coaches still were this morning. Regarding travel itinerary, I have no clue, but using my extremely low NCAATIIQ, I'd think the whole crew would want to head out by at least tomorrow.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4420
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Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.
:lol:
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.
:lol:
the funny part isn't ku tossing offers around as if they were baylor, the funny part is the ku posters that still think their bigs are all returning.
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.
:lol:
Based solely on their respective photos, they do not fit our criteria. Not even close. They'd be great Missouri fits.
so, in summary, after seeing the profile of the jucos and HS recruit, feel free to melt down if Nick Russell gets run off.
Djurisic down to 4: KSU, Arizona St, Georgia, and E. Carolina, will decide on Friday, if any of you Insiders out there want to share the rest of the content of the blog(if it's at all relevant/informative), I don't think you will offend anyone around here.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=laplante_mike&id=6224609&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fblog%3fname%3dlaplante_mike%26id%3d6224609
Djurisic down to 4: KSU, Arizona St, Georgia, and E. Carolina, will decide on Friday, if any of you Insiders out there want to share the rest of the content of the blog(if it's at all relevant/informative), I don't think you will offend anyone around here.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=laplante_mike&id=6224609&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fblog%3fname%3dlaplante_mike%26id%3d6224609
Djurisic down to 4: KSU, Arizona St, Georgia, and E. Carolina, will decide on Friday.
The ruggedly built Djurisic is a typical European power forward with a good basketball IQ who has the ability to stretch the defense out to the 3-point line. He caught a lot of people's attention with a good game in a head-to-head match-up against ESPN's No. 1-rated 2012 prospect Andre Drummond.
Key phrase was "How the coach communicates with his players." The furriner isn't coming here. Frank's not a touchy-feely guy.
So far, Missouri State, South Dakota State and North Dakota State have made offers. Iowa, Kansas State, Boston College, Clemson and several other programs in the Missouri Valley, Conference USA and the Horizon League have showed varying levels of interest.
Anyone know when Djurisic is supposed to announce his choice today?
Anyone know when Djurisic is supposed to announce his choice today?
"I don't know if it will be tomorrow(as in Friday, today) but it will be in the next few days," Djurisic said. "The schools I'm still considering are Arizona State, Kansas State, Georgia and East Carolina."
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1201699
kind of want Djurisic. :dunno: Not sure why
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 PF Nemanja Djurisic of South Kent (CT) chose Georgia over Arizona State, Kansas State, NC State, Utah & ECU.
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 PF Nemanja Djurisic of South Kent (CT) chose Georgia over Arizona State, Kansas State, NC State, Utah & ECU.
:emawkid: (emawkid is not sarcastic).
Wally coming back? :dunno:
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 PF Nemanja Djurisic of South Kent (CT) chose Georgia over Arizona State, Kansas State, NC State, Utah & ECU.
:emawkid: (emawkid is not sarcastic).
6'-0" Northeastern JC (CO) PG Widgett Washington committed to Toledo after a weekend trip. Early all-name team candidate. Native of KC.
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Two more guys to throw on the transfer list: South Carolina sophomore guards Ramon Galloway and Stephen Spinella.
Quote from: Hoopniks6'-0" Northeastern JC (CO) PG Widgett Washington committed to Toledo after a weekend trip. Early all-name team candidate. Native of KC.
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Wake Forest has granted sophomore forward Ari Stewart his release from the basketball program, per the Salisbury Post.
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Wake Forest has granted sophomore forward Ari Stewart his release from the basketball program, per the Salisbury Post.
transfer pool is filling up.
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Wake Forest has granted sophomore forward Ari Stewart his release from the basketball program, per the Salisbury Post.
transfer pool is filling up.
:horrorsurprise: Who recruited him for us?
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Wake Forest has granted sophomore forward Ari Stewart his release from the basketball program, per the Salisbury Post.
transfer pool is filling up.
:horrorsurprise: Who recruited him for us?
Not saying we are looking at him, I am saying that the quantity of kids looking to transfer out of their current sitch is increasing.
Not saying we are looking at him, I am saying that the quantity of kids looking to transfer out of their current sitch is increasing.
CK's numbers were awful shitty at UConn. :ck:
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
With Missouri coach Mike Anderson leaving for Arkansas, this leaves unsigned 2011 forward Otto Porter in a strange situation...
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
With Missouri coach Mike Anderson leaving for Arkansas, this leaves unsigned 2011 forward Otto Porter in a strange situation...
QuoteTheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
With Missouri coach Mike Anderson leaving for Arkansas, this leaves unsigned 2011 forward Otto Porter in a strange situation...
ku fan on nat'l board was all :excited: about Porter reportedly planning to take an official there, Bossi replied and basically said, Porter is real close to family and still thinks Missouri is the leader, regardless of CMA's departure, provided Missouri hires a coach worth a crap. We'll see about that ...
Galindo and CJ Giles also decomitted because of coaching changes.
Really, Self is just good at late pull it out your ass recruiting.
so diaz.... undecided? fantastic.
http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1)
so diaz.... undecided? fantastic.
http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1)
very odd. his accent is odd too. thought he was born in florida.
he mentions plans to come to kstate this summer on march 2nd (fb) though, so i'm not sure what to make of the interview.
so diaz.... undecided? fantastic.
http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1)
frank's desire to look past wally being a b*tch.
so diaz.... undecided? fantastic.
http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1)
frank's desire to look past wally being a b*tch.
anything is possible re. diaz not qualifying, etc. re. judge, rumors seem to indicate that judge may desire to look past martin being an bad person, but i haven't seen anything yet that indicates martin desires to look past judge being a bitch.
all of these are fun, but imo, the most interesting recruiting mystery of the weekend is still smith visiting while martin & the students are gone.
% chance that we land him? 10%?
I kinda figured it was just to visit Rod?
QuoteShawn Smith - Headin to orlando... then flying to kansas tomorrow #on the move
When asked why:QuoteFamily but I talked to rodney today so most likely ill be with him on campus. heard its nice there lol I'm excited I finally get to take my visit there
Watching the broadcast of the Seward-Coffeyville Region VI Championship game. Jones looks okay but hasn't really done anything impressive. Jumps really high on his 3s. Didn't pick up a foul until there was like 22 seconds left. Coffeyville has a chick on their dance squad that looks to weigh about 250. Really ugly overall play.
is Ar anything like the VCU Rodriguez?
is Ar anything like the VCU Rodriguez?
I love how 95% of all AR-T comparos are with guards whose last names end with an 'a' or a 'z'.
% chance that we land him? 10%?
have no idea whatsoever. seems like a player that will go wherever he's pointed towards. very confusing re. who is advising him.
from what I heard, made it sound like his mom wants him close to home and that will drive his commitment, but he's decommitted again. another reason for frank to leave? also that we might not have interest...which is f'ing stupid if that's the case.
I don't think he made it to Manhattan and don't expect him to make it to Manhattan. If he was, in fact, here, it was on his own to visit Rodney. As far as I know, his K-State recruitment is over.
With Frank Martin in New York this weekend, it would have been a silly time for a visit anyway.
Sorry to be the wet blanket.
QuoteI don't think he made it to Manhattan and don't expect him to make it to Manhattan. If he was, in fact, here, it was on his own to visit Rodney. As far as I know, his K-State recruitment is over.
With Frank Martin in New York this weekend, it would have been a silly time for a visit anyway.
Sorry to be the wet blanket.
missed this earlier from cassidy. makes sense.
I kinda figured it was just to visit Rod?
QuoteI don't think he made it to Manhattan and don't expect him to make it to Manhattan. If he was, in fact, here, it was on his own to visit Rodney. As far as I know, his K-State recruitment is over.
With Frank Martin in New York this weekend, it would have been a silly time for a visit anyway.
Sorry to be the wet blanket.
missed this earlier from cassidy. makes sense.
QuoteI don't think he made it to Manhattan and don't expect him to make it to Manhattan. If he was, in fact, here, it was on his own to visit Rodney. As far as I know, his K-State recruitment is over.
With Frank Martin in New York this weekend, it would have been a silly time for a visit anyway.
Sorry to be the wet blanket.
missed this earlier from cassidy. makes sense.
did you read the follow up? it's "what I heard".
Smith is a '12
Thought that the original quote from Smith said that he was "finally going to take an official visit...", or something like that.
did you read the follow up? it's "what I heard".
Didn't his AAU team make him decommit and list high profile schools so they get more pub? Also, he can't take officials this early.
what is Smith's connection to McGruder?
are you still coming to kstate? there are some rumors that you arent...
i am still going. can't wait.
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I've gotten 3 messages that he was in Billy's BBQ (a BIG kU joint) earlier this evening. I guess he's been after it pretty hard for the Seward County kid.
For what it's worth, a guy very close to the Seward staff told me he thought he'd end up at K-State. Says he's intrigued by the North Carolina offer, but won't get the playing time that he'd get at K-State.
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Did someone confirm that Jones received an offer from UNC?
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he REALLY like his visit to Tampa/USF, they do need him!
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yeah, don't think the Ware interest is legit.
yeah, don't think the Ware interest is legit.
why?
He (Ware) has heard rumors of interest from Louisville, Kansas, UCLA, Florida State, Kansas State, Georgetown, Georgia Tech and UGA, among others.
I mean, the guy's heard rumors that we are interested? :dubious:
I mean, the guy's heard rumors that we are interested? :dubious:
he hasn't been released yet. it would be some sort of minor violation for a school to talk directly with him.
well then I would err on the side of "not legit".
ware must be an unreal athlete, btw, 'cause his scouting reports are basically: v. athletic, can't shoot, no handle, bad hands, too skinny for college, four star.
:zzz::zzz: :zzz::zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
:zzz::zzz: :zzz::zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
But I really like players that are not offensively challenged.ware must be an unreal athlete, btw, 'cause his scouting reports are basically: v. athletic, can't shoot, no handle, bad hands, too skinny for college, four star.
the perfect JYC once baldy gets through with him :horrorsurprise:
gpc poster reporting that kstate is recruiting james watson of cowley co. pf from oklahoma, went to washington state out of hs, transfered to juco after a rs year + a year with 6 min/game. lots of stuff on google about him.
2011 SG Kevin Ware just got his release from Tennessee.
Quote2011 SG Kevin Ware just got his release from Tennessee.
kline tweet.
what is our connection to Ware?
Louisiana Tech transfer Olu Ashaolu hearing from Kentucky, San Diego State, Duquesne, Oregon, Kansas State, Iowa State & Mississippi State.
QuoteLouisiana Tech transfer Olu Ashaolu hearing from Kentucky, San Diego State, Duquesne, Oregon, Kansas State, Iowa State & Mississippi State.
:ksu:
According to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.
"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."
QuoteAccording to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.
"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."
rather have this ashaolu than watson. but prefer this dude to the juco guards and wings that have been mentioned. hopefully it's an either or situ. cassidy is killing the beat writers, btw. props to him.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1207046
QuoteAccording to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.
"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."
rather have this ashaolu than watson. but prefer this dude to the juco guards and wings that have been mentioned. hopefully it's an either or situ. cassidy is killing the beat writers, btw. props to him.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1207046
QuoteLouisiana Tech transfer Olu Ashaolu hearing from Kentucky, San Diego State, Duquesne, Oregon, Kansas State, Iowa State & Mississippi State.
:ksu:
Figger doin' work.
QuoteAccording to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.
"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."
rather have this ashaolu than watson. but prefer this dude to the juco guards and wings that have been mentioned. hopefully it's an either or situ. cassidy is killing the beat writers, btw. props to him.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1207046
QuoteAccording to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.
"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."
rather have this ashaolu than watson. but prefer this dude to the juco guards and wings that have been mentioned. hopefully it's an either or situ. cassidy is killing the beat writers, btw. props to him.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1207046
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St. Louis standout Ben McLemore picks Kansas over Mizzou. Your comments?
James Watson KSU Recruit playing at Cowley County was arrested last Wednesday.mcmw
Arkansas City Police Report for March 30, 2011
An Ark City male was the victim of aggravated burglary, theft and criminal damage to property in the 100 block of South Fourth. James Watson, Atoka, OK, was arrested in connection.
What will Frank Do?
http://www.newscow.net/story.php?StoryID=5102
Is McLemore still iffy to qualify?
lol.Is McLemore still iffy to qualify?
Not at ku.
Has it been reported on here that Jeremy Jones is supposed to visit KSU this weekend?
ware must be an unreal athlete, btw, 'cause his scouting reports are basically: v. athletic, can't shoot, no handle, bad hands, too skinny for college, four star.
3. said that he was most excited about Gip. that he was a grinder and hard worker
Forgive my ignorance, but who is James Watson?
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My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.
The link is only to a partial story, so here's the full text.
Just do me a favor and keep it on Wabash, OK?
None of this e-mailing it around to your buddies crap. Tell 'em to read it here.
Cowley College athlete caught in the middle
Cowley College basketball standout James Watson, of Atoka, Okla., has a story similar to that of NFL Baltimore Ravens offensive tackle Michael "Big Mike" Oher, the Ole Miss football star about whom the movie "The Blind Side" is based.
The only difference, said Watson's mother, Annette - who works in a child protective agency in Oklahoma - is that Michael Oher was adopted by "rich" white people, and they're just hard-working, middle-class people.
James was arrested last Wednesday on charges of aggravated burglary, felony theft and criminal damage to property in the Cowley College athletic dorm.
He was transported to the Cowley County Jail and released later that day on an $8,000 bond, according to a jail official.
The incident occurred at 7:30 a.m. March 30 in James' dorm room, according to Annette.
She said her son was being portrayed as a criminal - but is far from that.
Annette said James tried to not become mixed up in the dispute between his roommate, fellow Cowley basketball player Ashton Patton, and Patton's former girlfriend, Brenna Howard, of Topeka.
All James did was open the door when Patton's girlfriend knocked, give her his key so he wouldn't have to get up each time she knocked and went back to sleep, Annette said.
Howard was upset over personal problems she and Patton were having, and took some items from the dorm room that she said she had purchased. Among the items was a television.
"James didn't think a crime was being committed," Annette said. He simply thought Patton's girlfriend was taking things that belonged to her.
Her son's alleged crime was letting the girl into the room and not reporting the incident, Annette said. Patton was not in the room at the time.
"James made the choice not to get involved in it because those two are crazy," Annette said.
"James' crime was that he let her into the dorm room once, that's all he did. His crime is he didn't report it. He went back to sleep, got up and went to class, and thought, 'Man, she trashed this place.'"
Arkansas City arresting police officer Travis Stroud told a slightly different story.
According to Stroud, Brenna Howard, 21, of Topeka, was arrested and booked into the Cowley County Jail on March 31 on the same charges as James - aggravated burglary, felony theft and criminal damage to property. She bonded out that same day at $8,000.
"Brenna poured bleach on some of Patton's clothing, broke a door off a microwave oven and snapped about 20 DVDs in half," Stroud said.
James assisted Howard by unhooking the television in his dorm room and carrying items for her, Stroud said.
Stroud added that he was able to contact Howard by phone and talked her into bringing back all the items she had taken the next day.
Annette said James has a court appearance scheduled for Tuesday, but she hopes the incident is cleared up before then.
James was adopted when he was 14 from the foster care system, his mother said.
"He has high character because we demand that of him," Annette said, adding that James never has had "off the court" issues.
But this incident, which first was reported Wednesday in the Traveler and now is being discussed on online sites, is jeopardizing his future playing career, she said.
"My son has offers from K-State and (Oklahoma State), and he's going on a recruiting tour this weekend with this stuff on him, making him look like a criminal," Annette said.
James, a 6-foot-8, 220-pound forward, was a member of the 2010-11 Cowley men's basketball team after transferring to Cowley from Washington State University.
He averaged 10.4 points and 6.1 rebounds per game.
James has high interest and an offer from Georgia State, according to Rivals.com, as well as medium interest from Kansas State, Missouri State and Wichita State. He is listed as visiting Kansas State this weekend.
James had a sister, Kayla, who died four years ago at 21;, and he has a brother, Matthew, 23, and an adopted black sister, Charisma, 3. James was adopted by the Watsons when he was 14. He is 21 years old now.
This was e-mailed to me. Weird, considering the disclaimer by the OP. Nobody ever said those gpc'rs can follow directions well. Not sure if that's an environment I want to work in.QuoteThe link is only to a partial story, so here's the full text.
Just do me a favor and keep it on Wabash, OK?
None of this e-mailing it around to your buddies crap. Tell 'em to read it here.
Cowley College athlete caught in the middle
Cowley College basketball standout James Watson, of Atoka, Okla., has a story similar to that of NFL Baltimore Ravens offensive tackle Michael "Big Mike" Oher, the Ole Miss football star about whom the movie "The Blind Side" is based.
The only difference, said Watson's mother, Annette - who works in a child protective agency in Oklahoma - is that Michael Oher was adopted by "rich" white people, and they're just hard-working, middle-class people.
James was arrested last Wednesday on charges of aggravated burglary, felony theft and criminal damage to property in the Cowley College athletic dorm.
He was transported to the Cowley County Jail and released later that day on an $8,000 bond, according to a jail official.
The incident occurred at 7:30 a.m. March 30 in James' dorm room, according to Annette.
She said her son was being portrayed as a criminal - but is far from that.
Annette said James tried to not become mixed up in the dispute between his roommate, fellow Cowley basketball player Ashton Patton, and Patton's former girlfriend, Brenna Howard, of Topeka.
All James did was open the door when Patton's girlfriend knocked, give her his key so he wouldn't have to get up each time she knocked and went back to sleep, Annette said.
Howard was upset over personal problems she and Patton were having, and took some items from the dorm room that she said she had purchased. Among the items was a television.
"James didn't think a crime was being committed," Annette said. He simply thought Patton's girlfriend was taking things that belonged to her.
Her son's alleged crime was letting the girl into the room and not reporting the incident, Annette said. Patton was not in the room at the time.
"James made the choice not to get involved in it because those two are crazy," Annette said.
"James' crime was that he let her into the dorm room once, that's all he did. His crime is he didn't report it. He went back to sleep, got up and went to class, and thought, 'Man, she trashed this place.'"
Arkansas City arresting police officer Travis Stroud told a slightly different story.
According to Stroud, Brenna Howard, 21, of Topeka, was arrested and booked into the Cowley County Jail on March 31 on the same charges as James - aggravated burglary, felony theft and criminal damage to property. She bonded out that same day at $8,000.
"Brenna poured bleach on some of Patton's clothing, broke a door off a microwave oven and snapped about 20 DVDs in half," Stroud said.
James assisted Howard by unhooking the television in his dorm room and carrying items for her, Stroud said.
Stroud added that he was able to contact Howard by phone and talked her into bringing back all the items she had taken the next day.
Annette said James has a court appearance scheduled for Tuesday, but she hopes the incident is cleared up before then.
James was adopted when he was 14 from the foster care system, his mother said.
"He has high character because we demand that of him," Annette said, adding that James never has had "off the court" issues.
But this incident, which first was reported Wednesday in the Traveler and now is being discussed on online sites, is jeopardizing his future playing career, she said.
"My son has offers from K-State and (Oklahoma State), and he's going on a recruiting tour this weekend with this stuff on him, making him look like a criminal," Annette said.
James, a 6-foot-8, 220-pound forward, was a member of the 2010-11 Cowley men's basketball team after transferring to Cowley from Washington State University.
He averaged 10.4 points and 6.1 rebounds per game.
James has high interest and an offer from Georgia State, according to Rivals.com, as well as medium interest from Kansas State, Missouri State and Wichita State. He is listed as visiting Kansas State this weekend.
James had a sister, Kayla, who died four years ago at 21;, and he has a brother, Matthew, 23, and an adopted black sister, Charisma, 3. James was adopted by the Watsons when he was 14. He is 21 years old now.
I'm assuming this (unfortunately) goes hereQuoteMartin at Coco Bolos
My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.
I'm assuming this (unfortunately) goes hereQuoteMartin at Coco Bolos
My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.
FWIW, the recruit was Jeremy Jones.
I'm assuming this (unfortunately) goes hereQuoteMartin at Coco Bolos
My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.
I'm assuming this (unfortunately) goes hereQuoteMartin at Coco Bolos
My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.
Pierre Jackson to Baylor(Gary Franklin doesn't approve)
Sam Grooms to Oklahoma(Carl Blair and Calvin Newell probably don't approve but neither are real good so Kruger probably doesn't care)
Stan Simpson to Memphis
KSU was never mentioned in connection with any of these prospects, but these were 3 of the top JC prospects available and it sorta has a local/B12 flavor.
1 player who KSU had briefly been mentioned in connection with, 6'1" PG Wes Washpun from Cedar Rapids, IA, committed to Tennessee(not included in update below)
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210397C
The only 1 of the JC guys that I'm disappointed KSU.
The only 1 of the JC guys that I'm disappointed KSU.
i don't see why you you'd bring in a jr pg unless you hate soph and fr pgs.
Which is exactly why I said it would be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to recruit him if Myles was still sticking around.
I think we were mentioned w/ Simpson when he was a HS recruit.
I think we were mentioned w/ Simpson when he was a HS recruit.
I believe you are correct.
I think we were mentioned w/ Simpson when he was a HS recruit.
I believe you are correct.
I thought KU wanted him pretty bad. Was that TRob insurance, or did they just outright lose him to Cankles?
I thought KU wanted him pretty bad. Was that TRob insurance, or did they just outright lose him to Cankles?
I thought KU wanted him pretty bad. Was that TRob insurance, or did they just outright lose him to Cankles?
no one wanted simpson badly. he sucks, he was just one of the few remaining options. ku got anderson instead/first. anderson's no prize either.
seff will bounce him next year when they get some top 50 guy.
i don't see why you you'd bring in a jr pg unless you hate soph and fr pgs.Freshman and Sophomore PGs are awesome!
A freshman and a sophomore lead OU to their worst seasons in 20+ years, so yeah stick with them as OU passes you guys with the Grooms!!!!!
seff will bounce him next year when they get some top 50 guy.
yes.
mario littleseff will bounce him next year when they get some top 50 guy.
yes.
Nothing too new, but ESPN senior analyst was on 810. Said Gipson will be good around the block as a finisher/rebounder. Diaz is way ahead of Henriquez (although he said Rodriguez) at the same point in their high school career, but needs to add muscle. Rodriguez plays with a big chip on his shoulder like he has something to prove. Got a good shot at getting Jones (or whoever the JC point guard from that one KS juco is) who is a legit high major starting PG.Yay!
? Webster-Chan still committed to Louisville
Kevin Ware update
Posted on April 13, 2011 by Jody Demling
Spoke with the father of Kevin Ware, one of the few uncommitted top 100 prospects nationally, on Wednesday morning about the recruitment process.
Ware’s father, Wesley Junior, said the former Tennessee commitment will not take any visits until later in the month. He was scheduled to visit Central Florida this weekend but those plans have changed because of logistics.
"No visits to any schools right now," Junior said. "There are still two or three schools that want to get in and talk and he needs to have time to think about the schools and then make a final list of the schools that he will visit."
Louisville, Central Florida, Georgia, UCLA, Georgetown and South Carolina are the schools that Junior mentioned. Ware has four official visits left.
Ware is scheduled to play in the Derby Festival Classic on April 22 at the KFC Yum! Center and will arrive in Louisville on April 20 in preparation of the game.
So Lonny signs a kid today and he's been on the job for a rough ridin' week.Lol
youngo11 omari lawrence
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@Jowildkat2 that's what ima do, ima be down there to get that signed
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@Jowildkat2 that's what ima do, ima be down there to get that signed
Billy Gillispie and Texas Tech Have 7 Commitments for 2011-2012 Season
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The Texas Tech Red Raiders were not a good basketball team last season under Pat Knight. Because of their poor record Knight was shown the door and Billy Gillispie was hired.
Even with Gillispie in charge Texas Tech may still not be good next year but at least things will look different when you look out on the court.
In recent weeks Gillispie received commitments from Juco teammates Jaron Nash and Kader Tapsoba out of Tyler J.C. Nash is listed at 6'7" 175 pounds while Tapsoba is listed at 6"10".
With these two players now on board the Red Raiders have a total of seven players committed for the 2011-2012 season.
According to Rivals the five players who have signed their letter of intents consist of four 3 star recruits: SG Toddrick Gotcher, SF Terran Petteway, PF Jordan Tolbert and PG Kevin Wagner along with 2 star recruit PF Hershey Robinson.
This is a continuing situation to watch as usually when a new coach comes on board at any university there is house cleaning of sorts that takes place within the program.
Angel is humming the KSU Fight Song [in Spanish]
...has Rock Ch...in it, I believe*
BP in response to a question about when/iQuote
Angel is humming the KSU Fight Song [in Spanish]
...has Rock Ch...in it, I believe*
Also, BP doesn't know a god damn thing about our fight song, apparently.
Going to be in Louisville next weekend. See that the Derby Festival Basketball Classic is going on. Is it worth going?
would listen "if a school like Duke" came calling.
2011 UNLV signee Grandy Glaze has decommitted from the program, according to his AAU coach.
Sys whats the deal with Ware signing with UCF?
FWIW. Heard last night that Jeremy Jones has already made up his mind to come here.
FWIW. Heard last night that Jeremy Jones has already made up his mind to come here.
I'd be happy with that. Is he only coming for 1 year, like every other juco Frank has recruited?
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
almost certainly
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
almost certainly
Can't wait to follow Nick's and Wally's stats in a couple years.
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
almost certainly
Can't wait to follow Nick's and Wally's stats in a couple years.
rod :frown:
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
almost certainly
Can't wait to follow Nick's and Wally's stats in a couple years.
rod :frown:
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
almost certainly
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
almost certainly
Myles. I don't even give a eff if we cause him to lose a year of eligibility.
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
almost certainly
Myles. I don't even give a eff if we cause him to lose a year of eligibility.
you heartless S.O.B myles is a fine human being
Recently, University of New Orleans’ Freshman KC Ross-Miller spoke to me about leaving the University in order to attend another school, ” I am about to transfer colleges.” Right now, he does not know what college he will ultimately end up at, but Ross-Miller has a list of top contenders that he will evaluate during his transferring process. “I haven’t decided yet but my schools are Purdue, Louisville, UNT, Detroit, Kansas State.” His stay at the University of New Orleans was more of an insurance policy rather than an act of permanence ” I went to UNO because they have a rule where I could go there for one semester and then be eligible to play anywhere without having to sit out, except in the SEC.” Now that the semester is over, Ross-Miller can now focus on looking for the best fitting program, ” I’m looking for a program where I can come and start, have a good coach, and good academics. I’m looking for the best school that needs me the most.” Hopefully this young man will be able to find the school of his dreams!
Obviously Sys's opinion carries much more weight than mine but I've seen Jones play and I was less than impressed. Considering he was playing against juco, I don't think he's any better than abyone we have right now. Plus-our guys at least have an idea of what Franks wants. Qlck:
Why preferable to Jones? We need a scorer if anything imo? :dunno:
Why preferable to Jones? We need a scorer if anything imo? :dunno:
same reason at jt's. i haven't seen him, but i've seen a fair number of reports from people that have. and basically none of them say that he's very good. given that they're all kstate fans, and likely desire him to be decent, that's uninspiring.
good point about his style being a decent fit. i can see the appeal of having another guy with range on the court along with spradler and mcgruder, assuming they're both back.
the other thing is that i just hate jones because recruiting him is so rough ridin' stupid. there's no possible way that getting him is a good thing. every single semi-realistic possibility that leads to an open 'ship for him is a killjoy. like, if it's mcgruder that sucks because mcgruder's good & is due to get great minutes & for him to want to leave prolly means the whole staff other than figger are constant dicks. or if it's russell, then it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because you're kicking out a guy with the exact same skillset as the guy you're bringing in, except the guy you're kicking out is better and has more upside and is from arlington grace prep that produces multiple d1 players each year. or if it's myles, then the staff are a bunch of giant assholes because they recruited a guy with no real chance of making an impact and then kicked him out a year later knowing it would cost him a year of eligibility. etc, etc. it's all just so rough ridin' stupid and depressing.
I saw Isaiah PHilmore was transferring. We kind of recruited him and he's looking at some Big 12 schools.
Former Towson player Isaiah Philmore likes Dayton, Delaware State, Missouri, Oklahoma State & Xavier.
I saw Isaiah PHilmore was transferring. We kind of recruited him and he's looking at some Big 12 schools.QuoteFormer Towson player Isaiah Philmore likes Dayton, Delaware State, Missouri, Oklahoma State & Xavier.
well eff me sideways.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1215630
well eff me sideways.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1215630
Can't read who is it Jones?
well eff me sideways.
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1215630
"...we have two spots to fill..."
"...we have two spots to fill..."
Yeah, sys was correct on that one. I was wrong.
I just heard Cassidy on kman and he confirmed. He said all 4 would sign, likely after Wednesday. That means there will be 2 defections, but he didn't anticipate any "surprises" in those defections.
"signed" that doesn't mean they all get 'ships, right?
this is some bullshit
this is some bullshit
Angel.
Important to discuss; Angel, Jones, and Watson should be fine as far as adorableness goes.
Omari I'm not so sure, Pullen's Wildcat makeover gives me hope.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvfMRsGtRo
:popcorn:
What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have?
What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have? This one seriously perplexes me the most.
What a team Frank is putting together... Reply
The recruiting level keeps going up a notch. CAN YOU EVEN IMAGE WHAT THOMAS GIPSON IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER GREENAWALT!! He is 242 as a high school senior...WOW!! Also a lefty. Omari a lefty..Frank has the market cornered on lefties. This TEAM this fall is going to be really really special. Not only athletic but I feel everyone associated with this program from players to coaches are going to be REALLY REALLY HUNGRY this upcoming season....Just watched the video of the Beast...Omari..Watson...Diaz...Can't WAIT!!!!!!
What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have? This one seriously perplexes me the most.
didn't he at least have some solid offers out of high school? or am I making that up completely
Watson choose the Cougars over Missouri State, Tulsa, Oral Roberts and Wichita State, among other Division I programs.
:facepalm:What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have? This one seriously perplexes me the most.
didn't he at least have some solid offers out of high school? or am I making that up completelyQuoteWatson choose the Cougars over Missouri State, Tulsa, Oral Roberts and Wichita State, among other Division I programs.
Baylor and Wyoming also offered.
:facepalm:What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have? This one seriously perplexes me the most.
didn't he at least have some solid offers out of high school? or am I making that up completelyQuoteWatson choose the Cougars over Missouri State, Tulsa, Oral Roberts and Wichita State, among other Division I programs.
Baylor and Wyoming also offered.
jones seems alright though right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvfMRsGtRo
:popcorn:
Jones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.
"As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."
QuoteJones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.
"As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."
Some good offers there.
QuoteJones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.
"As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."
Some good offers there.
I don't buy most of those good offers fwiw
QuoteJones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.
"As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."
Some good offers there.
I don't buy most of those good offers fwiw
If it was just GP or someone reporting those it would be one thing, but from Telep it seems pretty legit.
Here is my deal on Jones, it doesn't take much looking to see that he was one of the top JUCO guards available for the spring and he got a lot of legitimate attention from decent programs in the last couple weeks. He is not the typical Frank spring signee IMO.
I won't say the same about Watson.
Here is my deal on Jones, it doesn't take much looking to see that he was one of the top JUCO guards available for the spring and he got a lot of legitimate attention from decent programs in the last couple weeks. He is not the typical Frank spring signee IMO.
I won't say the same about Watson.
Watson at least makes sense in that we would have had a non-frosh big rotation of 2 people....and that is if you call Jamar a big.
Here is my deal on Jones, it doesn't take much looking to see that he was one of the top JUCO guards available for the spring and he got a lot of legitimate attention from decent programs in the last couple weeks. He is not the typical Frank spring signee IMO.
I won't say the same about Watson.
Watson at least makes sense in that we would have had a non-frosh big rotation of 2 people....and that is if you call Jamar a big.
I agree that Watson does provide post depth and it makes some sense, but I'm just saying he wasn't nearly as sought after as Jones. I don't think Jones is a Myles, Awaji, or Gilbert level JUCO recruit.
he's blake young
myles and awaji had equivalent offers. maybe not as many, but that's because they weren't offer whores.
Iowa signs a 26 year old ex-con from the JuCo ranks
I think it is safe to say that we know who the most interesting incoming recruit in the country next season will be.
26 year old Anthony Hubbard, who signed with Iowa on Saturday.
He dropped out of high school in the 10th grade in 2002. One of his brothers was killed that same year. And on December 13th, 2003, was charged with four felonies for breaking into a house and robbing and beating a man in that house. Hubbard turned himself in three days later, eventually getting sentenced to three years and eleven months in prison. He reportedly drove the getaway car.
But that incident, as violent as it seems, was apparently an outlying mistake made by a kid than a precursor to a life of crime.
myles and awaji had equivalent offers. maybe not as many, but that's because they weren't offer whores.
People like Telep didn't talk about Myles and Awaji being great pick-ups. You had to scour google to find anything about those guys, there is quite a bit out there about Jones and his recruitment. West Virginia was legitimately recruiting him and all indications are he told them no. Same with Marquette and Indiana. I get the concern that the main players at the end were Houston and South Florida, but I think Jones got some real attention from high majors in the last 2 months.
AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
by stevedaveKSU
Wally Judge will also visit Washington the weekend of May 6 after visiting Maryland this weekend
read in a blurb Jones was to vist ASU this month. Not sure if that happened.
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
Or both... :peek:
FWIW, Watson is ranked #43 on JucoJunction (http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769). Jones is unranked, which seems weird to me if he's as good as reported.
FWIW, Watson is ranked #43 on JucoJunction (http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769). Jones is unranked, which seems weird to me if he's as good as reported.
yeah i wouldn't worry much about that. They have guys in their top 20 committed to absolute cac schools while jones had better options than 90% of them.
FWIW, Watson is ranked #43 on JucoJunction (http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769). Jones is unranked, which seems weird to me if he's as good as reported.
yeah i wouldn't worry much about that. They have guys in their top 20 committed to absolute cac schools while jones had better options than 90% of them.
The Juco Junction Top 150 is usually weird.
Asprilla was #2.
Blake Young was #8.
Not sure where it goes, if it has been mentioned, or if it matters, but NC State's Ryan Harrow is transferring.
Not sure where it goes, if it has been mentioned, or if it matters, but NC State's Ryan Harrow is transferring.
That's the kind of guy I could get behind running a guy off for.
Not sure where it goes, if it has been mentioned, or if it matters, but NC State's Ryan Harrow is transferring.
That's the kind of guy I could get behind running a guy off for.
do not know who he is. sounds white.
Not sure where it goes, if it has been mentioned, or if it matters, but NC State's Ryan Harrow is transferring.
That's the kind of guy I could get behind running a guy off for.
do not know who he is. sounds white.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Harrow-83338
he's blake young
That's fair.
he's blake young
That's fair.
that's depressing.
he's blake young
That's fair.
that's depressing.
eh. only because of how the rest of recruiting has gone.
click on the ryan harrow dance video and check out the adorableness
QuoteJones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.
"As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."
Some good offers there.
I don't buy most of those good offers fwiw
QuoteJones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.
"As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."
Some good offers there.
I don't buy most of those good offers fwiw
Every one of those teams mentioned (minus ASU) was in attendance to watch him play in Dodge City not so long ago... I would say its fairly legit...
Myles had OFFERS from: Nebraska, Florida, Oklahoma...that I know of.
Updated Rivals 150. Gipson and Diaz with slight dip to 147 and 148, they were at 142 and 145 respectively.
Effin Colorado with Cain and Dinwiddie :curse:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2288
Yeah, I think he dropped about 15 spots.
four transfers in one year. what a joke.
"I should be putting something out next week about all that, but we're pleased with the two guys who signed early with us," said Martin, who added that Diaz will not attend prep school next season. "Next week, guys. Next week, I'll talk to people about all that."
Of course, Kelly topped off his coaches words with a familiar garnish. When the departing forward was asked about the offseason feeling surrounding the roster, he pointed out that departures are a part of every big-time program.
"Some people are going to move in and some people are going to move out," Kelly said, before using his final sentence to draw a last laugh.
"I don't know what's going to happen, but I pray for each and every one of them," he said.
How the eff is Curtis Kelly's jersey not in the rafters?
I want to know how the conversation goes. I mean, how does Frank say "GTFO"?? Does he let them down gently, using the "it's not you, it's me" line??
I want to know how the conversation goes. I mean, how does Frank say "GTFO"?? Does he let them down gently, using the "it's not you, it's me" line??
Frank- "Dalonte, did you get your pay check this month?"
Dalonte- "Yeah."
Frank- "Go make sure Nick and Jeuvol have passed their classes and then tell them their scholarships are gone. Oh, and bring me a Diet Dr. Pepper. Thanks."
Top-50 point guard prospect Chris Jones of Memphis will not attend Tennessee and instead will enroll in a junior college, The Commercial Appeal reported.
Jones’ coach at Melrose High, Jermaine Johnson, told the newspaper that Jones will play for former Tennessee assistant Steve Forbes at Northwest Florida State College, where Forbes accepted the head coaching job in early April.
"He can concentrate on getting better mentally and physically," Johnson said.
Ranked No. 39 among class of 2011 prospects by Rivals.com, Jones had talked about escaping his letter of intent after Tennessee fired coach oscar Pearl in March but later said he would join the Vols.
Whether he’ll be at Northwest Florida for one or two seasons would depend upon whether he graduates from Melrose as a full academic qualifier under NCAA rules. The Commercial Appeal reported there were questions about whether Jones would meet the required standards to be eligible to play Division I basketball as a freshman.
Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2011-04-28/top-point-guard-to-bypass-tennessee-go-to-junior-college#ixzz1KpTsw81t
We're in for a protracted Kruger'ing on the recruiting front it appears.Even though his name doesn't lean himself well to a verb I think Lew Hill is the coach that's going to eff you guys up at the ass on the recruiting front for Oklahoma.
We're in for a protracted Kruger'ing on the recruiting front it appears.Even though his name doesn't lean himself well to a verb I think Lew Hill is the coach that's going to eff you guys up at the ass on the recruiting front for Oklahoma.
Damn it, I am finally in a position to feel semi-confident about my program and I want to take noise to you rough ridin' plebes from Kansas. FaawwwwwwwwwwwwkkkkWe're in for a protracted Kruger'ing on the recruiting front it appears.Even though his name doesn't lean himself well to a verb I think Lew Hill is the coach that's going to eff you guys up at the ass on the recruiting front for Oklahoma.
Just a hunch here but I would guess he is referencing the period in K-State B-Ball history in which Lon Kruger mailed it in with recruiting during his final year(s)
Damn it, I am finally in a position to feel semi-confident about my program and I want to take noise to you rough ridin' plebes from Kansas. FaawwwwwwwwwwwwkkkkWe're in for a protracted Kruger'ing on the recruiting front it appears.Even though his name doesn't lean himself well to a verb I think Lew Hill is the coach that's going to eff you guys up at the ass on the recruiting front for Oklahoma.
Just a hunch here but I would guess he is referencing the period in K-State B-Ball history in which Lon Kruger mailed it in with recruiting during his final year(s)
http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/04/28/a-few-minutes-with-omari-lawrence/
http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/04/28/a-few-minutes-with-omari-lawrence/
What made you choose K-State?
I just liked the whole coaching staff, and I have a close relationship with Curtis Kelly and Shane Southwell. And I also built a good relationship with Frank Martin when I reached out to him when I was changing schools.
So you reached out to him when you knew you were going to transfer from St. John’s
No, he actually called me. The staff called me. Frank and Brad Underwood were the main guys who recruited me. They’re both good guys.
QuoteMyles had OFFERS from: Nebraska, Florida, Oklahoma...that I know of.
lol, frank lied right to cassidy's handsome face :lol:
or omari lied right to robinette's smelly face :dunno:
I want to know how the conversation goes. I mean, how does Frank say "GTFO"?? Does he let them down gently, using the "it's not you, it's me" line??
Frank- "Dalonte, did you get your pay check this month?"
Dalonte- "Yeah."
Frank- "Go make sure Nick and Jeuvol have passed their classes and then tell them their scholarships are gone. Oh, and bring me a Diet Dr. Pepper. Thanks."
QuoteMyles had OFFERS from: Nebraska, Florida, Oklahoma...that I know of.
Am I the only one who calls bullcac on the Florida offer?
i don't like ucf anymore. they are injecting too much entropy into florida & surroundings recruiting.
i don't like ucf anymore. they are injecting too much entropy into florida & surroundings recruiting.
Interesting thought. What does entropy mean?
<------------ late to the party here but I'm calling bullshit on this one. :dubious:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvfMRsGtRo
:popcorn:
I'm 35 years with bad knees and I could do all but one of those dunks
<------------ late to the party here but I'm calling bullshit on this one. :dubious:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvfMRsGtRo
:popcorn:
I'm 35 years with bad knees and I could do all but one of those dunks
Speaking of decommits/releases from LOIs... Have there been any rumors of Gipson potentially requesting a release?
Not trying to stir up crap or anything... There's a rumor out that one of the DFW kids in the Rivals 150 is considering asking for a release from an LOI. There are only 5 or 6 viable candidates, and most of those are even less likely than Gipson. Especially when the rumor popped up right after you guys landed not one but two JUCO posts.
I thought Gipson was totally on board with you guys, so at first I didn't think it could be him. Any anxieties over him sticking with your class?
Speaking of decommits/releases from LOIs... Have there been any rumors of Gipson potentially requesting a release?
Not trying to stir up crap or anything... There's a rumor out that one of the DFW kids in the Rivals 150 is considering asking for a release from an LOI. There are only 5 or 6 viable candidates, and most of those are even less likely than Gipson. Especially when the rumor popped up right after you guys landed not one but two JUCO posts.
I thought Gipson was totally on board with you guys, so at first I didn't think it could be him. Any anxieties over him sticking with your class?
He did have a few weird tweets copied on here a few weeks ago about how everyone was transfering and that people needed to stay where they were, or some crap like that.
I will officially blame the Greek if this happens.
Also, pretty obvious that the whole Tony fiasco was N Tex's doing now that it has fully played out.
Greek, why is your school sabotaging ours?
from his tweets & facebook, that would be extremely surprising.
kstate has landed not one, but zero, juco posts. although it is strongly rumored that watson will sign in the near future (or already has but hasn't announced).
from his tweets & facebook, that would be extremely surprising.
kstate has landed not one, but zero, juco posts. although it is strongly rumored that watson will sign in the near future (or already has but hasn't announced).
Thought Watson was announced at the same time as Omari and others? :dunno:
Again, not trying to cause a panic or start a shitstorm. I didn't think Gipson was one of the likelier suspects; just trying to figure out whether there was any reason to think he might be.
It's not gipson
Thought Watson was announced at the same time as Omari and others? :dunno:
no, cassidy reported that he committed. but then there's been nothing about him signing despite signing confirmos for ar-t, lawrence and jones.
It's not gipson
It's not gipson
spill the beans :dubious:
It's not gipson
spill the beans :dubious:
his rough ridin' facebook name is thomas kansas state gipson. he knows family of mine from the dallas area, they've seen him just walking around in k-state gear. he loves frank. i think i even know a guy he's living with in manhattan. there's just no way, dudes.
It's not gipson
spill the beans :dubious:
his rough ridin' facebook name is thomas kansas state gipson. he knows family of mine from the dallas area, they've seen him just walking around in k-state gear. he loves frank. i think i even know a guy he's living with in manhattan. there's just no way, dudes.
oh, I thought you knew who was leaving (in addition to Nick). disregard request for spilled beans.
It's not gipson
spill the beans :dubious:
his rough ridin' facebook name is thomas kansas state gipson. he knows family of mine from the dallas area, they've seen him just walking around in k-state gear. he loves frank. i think i even know a guy he's living with in manhattan. there's just no way, dudes.
oh, I thought you knew who was leaving (in addition to Nick). disregard request for spilled beans.
oh, no i don't. could actually see it being jamar though.
It's not gipson
spill the beans :dubious:
his rough ridin' facebook name is thomas kansas state gipson. he knows family of mine from the dallas area, they've seen him just walking around in k-state gear. he loves frank. i think i even know a guy he's living with in manhattan. there's just no way, dudes.
oh, I thought you knew who was leaving (in addition to Nick). disregard request for spilled beans.
oh, no i don't. could actually see it being jamar though.
how bad would that suck. also, he would have to transfer down a division, right? already spent his RS. Unless he does that grant gregory/murda thing that I thought was outlawed but maybe not. It can't be anyone but canada or irving. just can't. nobody else even remotely makes sense.
me: are you ready to be a wildcat?
thomas gipson: yea
mystery solved.
me: are you ready to be a wildcat?
thomas gipson: yea
mystery solved.
Interesting. Doesn't that mean that we still have a 'ship to fill(assuming 95 doesn't get it)?
whoever is FauxFrankMartin on twitter, I keep forgetting to tell you how great you are at twittering.
P.S., I just asked 95 if he's getting a 'ship. This twitter thing is pretty helpful to get info.
FauxFrankMartin FakeFrankMartin
@
@oklahomacat hey tuck, leave my kids alone. Silly and selfish
P.S., I just asked 95 if he's getting a 'ship. This twitter thing is pretty helpful to get info.
I wouldn't rub it in. 0%
P.S., I just asked 95 if he's getting a 'ship. This twitter thing is pretty helpful to get info.
I followed fake frank martin and didn't think he was very funny.
me: are you ready to be a wildcat?
thomas gipson: yea
mystery solved.
then he basically called TheTastyGreek's mother a whore, in not as many words.
Facebook and Twitter have become a useful tool in getting information about your favorite team. Weird.
Stalkers. :cool:
whoever is FauxFrankMartin on twitter, I keep forgetting to tell you how great you are at twittering.
I followed fake frank martin and didn't think he was very funny.yeah very lame so is the ron prince one......so much potential with both of those but they are terrible
He denies being a runner, but said if he were he would be “the best in the country, and you could not stop me.”
more (not ucf related).
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6453773
longer version. love this quote.QuoteHe denies being a runner, but said if he were he would be “the best in the country, and you could not stop me.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/30/sports/ncaabasketball/30recruit.html?_r=1&src=tptw
#7 and #33.
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434
#7 and #33.
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434
have Scouted JCs for 30+ years, never heard [or SEEN @ games] this person...
...looks like he compiles Players Info via other's lists???
#7 and #33.
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434Quotehave Scouted JCs for 30+ years, never heard [or SEEN @ games] this person...
...looks like he compiles Players Info via other's lists???
Staff: Here are a few of our staff members who evaluate prospects for your program
Brad Winton – President/National Recruiting Director – Brad is the President and National Recruiting Director for JucoRecruiting.com and Elite Basketball Services, LLC. Brad spent 7 years as an assistant and head coach at the collegiate and professional levels before founding JucoRecruiting.com and Elite Basketball’s Scouting Service. Brad evaluates junior college and post grad prep school prospects on a national scale. He is also involved with evaluating international prospects. Winton holds a bachelor’s degree in sports management and business administration from Indiana Tech. He works out of Cleveland, OH and Tampa, FL. You can contact Brad at [email protected]
Willis Brown – West Coast Recruiting Director – Before joining Elite Basketball/JucoRecruiting.com, Brown spent fourteen years as college assistant and head coach, with stops at the NCAA D1, D3, NAIA, and JUCO levels. Brown evaluates junior college and prep school prospects on the west coast and works out of Las Vegas, NV. Brown holds a bachelor’s degree in sports management from Baldwin-Wallace College.
Doug Viegas - Director of International Recruiting – Viegas grew up in Sao Paulo, Brazil and came to the United States in high school to pursue athletic and academic endeavors. Upon graduation, Viegas spent two years playing at Lakeland Community College. After Lakeland, Viegas received a scholarship to play for Dereck Whittenburg at NCAA D1 Wagner College. He was a starter on Wagner’s NCAA Tournament team, and graduated with a bachelor’s degree in business. He then moved on to play professionally in Brazil’s top league for seven years. Viegas now resides in Sao Paulo and serves as an international scout.
#7 and #33.
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434
yep.. im familiar with all the downings. i was upset he didn't stick around with the ksu cats..#7 and #33.
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434
just noticed anthony downing at #58 going to missouri state.
@Collegiate_hoop: 2011 SG Kevin Ware of Rockdale County (GA) has a list of Georgia, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisville & UCLA.
Quote@Collegiate_hoop: 2011 SG Kevin Ware of Rockdale County (GA) has a list of Georgia, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisville & UCLA.
Quote@Collegiate_hoop: 2011 SG Kevin Ware of Rockdale County (GA) has a list of Georgia, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisville & UCLA.
i think that's actually just dated info being tweeted about though.
i think that's actually just dated info being tweeted about though.
http://twitter.com/#!/_incrediblekid/status/65588344209416192
http://twitter.com/#!/_incrediblekid/status/65588344209416192
http://twitter.com/#!/_incrediblekid/status/65588344209416192
not an old tweet; new tweet containing old info. i could be wrong, but my first guess is the guy just tweeted the updated list from ware's espn profile, which i think just reverted back to the list they had for him before he committed to ucf.
no order kstate, kansas, uga, ucla, uofl
explains the fact that Watson hasn't signed?
James Watson the Washington State guy signed a national letter of intent with Kansas State yesterday.
http://twitter.com/#!/_incrediblekid/status/65588344209416192
not an old tweet; new tweet containing old info. i could be wrong, but my first guess is the guy just tweeted the updated list from ware's espn profile, which i think just reverted back to the list they had for him before he committed to ucf.
incrediblekid = ware.
explains the fact that Watson hasn't signed?
Scoops Callahan:QuoteJames Watson the Washington State guy signed a national letter of intent with Kansas State yesterday.
KellisRobinett - Cowley College says former Washington State forward James Watson hasn't signed with K-State. Could happen soon, but nothing official yet.
explains the fact that Watson hasn't signed?
Cowley College says former Washington State forward James Watson hasn't signed with K-State. Could happen soon, but nothing official yet.
Frank,yeah
We will act like you're awesome, man, and pretend, in our minds, that no one has ever transferred, that we liked, and no juco players were ever signed in the spring, if, Ware comes here.
Are we full? OU commit Robert Goff, a soph from Hutch CC just decommited and is now entertaining offers.
Are we full? OU commit Robert Goff, a soph from Hutch CC just decommited and is now entertaining offers.
I think I read Goff was basically told he wasn't wanted by Kruger and that he was looking somewhere down in the southeast at a smaller school.
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
Or both... :peek:
I dont if Goff will qualify, wouldnt attend class or some crap in juco.Are we full? OU commit Robert Goff, a soph from Hutch CC just decommited and is now entertaining offers.
I think I read Goff was basically told he wasn't wanted by Kruger and that he was looking somewhere down in the southeast at a smaller school.
Goff stuff, sounds like the big boys are staying away this time and probably for good reason.
http://www.hutchnews.com/Jucodaily/0503-goff
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Star of George Mason NCAA upset of Villanova may transfer http://dlvr.it/QlNPM
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Former Oklahoma signee Robert Goff is headed to play for Tom Herrion at Marshall, source told FOXSports.com.
Does Frank know he doesn't have to honor the offers he's made once he fills his scholarships?
Does Frank know he doesn't have to honor the offers he's made once he fills his scholarships?
He'll just be next year's Canadian.
Should've got Goff then.He'll just be next year's Canadian.
i wonder if martin searches out jucos who've redshirted? he may find that forcing normal jucos to transfer doesn't inflict enough pain on innocent youngsters.
Gary Williams retiring and Sean Miller potentially taking the Maryland job could open up the recruits Miller had signed that were also considering ku. F*cking carousel always helps out ku.
I think Arizona was Lon's dream job. Think he'd switch (if they'd have him)?eff and no
Should've got Goff then.
Didn't see it posted anywhere on here. But we have a new walk-on. http://www.examiner.net/sports/highschoolsports/x173162038/Blue-Springs-South-s-Meyer-walks-on-with-Kansas-State-basketball
Meyer found out Wednesday that he had been given preferred walk-on status with the team.
“Basically, it means I’m a member of the K-State basketball team, and I get to enjoy everything the scholarship players enjoy – I’m just not on a scholarship.”
“I’ll do whatever they want, but I think most of the time I’ll be distributing the ball,"
At least he knows he isn't there for an engineering degree
Anxiously awaiting that next Dante Holmes update :users:
Anxiously awaiting that next Dante Holmes update :users:
goddamnit, underdog wildcat.
Quotehave Scouted JCs for 30+ years, never heard [or SEEN @ games] this person...
...looks like he compiles Players Info via other's lists???
There are several ways to see them all play. You guys are correct about the lack of AAU, which does make it difficult to see all of them in a short period of time and makes it even more difficult to rank them when a lot never go head to head.
That being said, there are two events in the summer (during the live recruiting period for D1's in July) where I can see the majority of the top JUCO players going into their sophomore year. One is Jerry Mullen's JUCO Top 120 Camp, which is normally held at Oral Robers University in Tulsa. It has been moved to St. Louis this year due to the NCAA's new ruling on AAU and other exposure events not being allowed on a D1 campus. The other is the All American JUCO Showcase in Vegas, which is held during the same time as the Adidas Super 64 and other high level AAU events. This is similar to the Mullens event, but will sometimes have more kids from the out west.
Another way for me to "see all of them" are JUCO Jamborees. These are pre season events that are held in October and are considered scrimmages. These are team events that have more than 60 teams from across the country. There are several of these in different regions of the country. There is a large one in Dallas that has the best teams from Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Illinois, etc. There is also one in Atlanta that has some of the better teams from the southeast. Some are out West as well. I'm sure you get the idea.
Of course you still have regular season games, large holiday tournaments, conference tournaments, regional tournaments and the NJCAA D1, D2 and D3 National Tournaments. Keep in mind I do see most players as freshman, throughout the summer, pre season events and their entire sophomore year. After that the final rankings are released.
Somebody also mentioned film. They are correct as well. This is not a 2 minute highlight film with Jay Z blaring. Junior college coaches send me full game film, sometimes several from each school. Film is usually an even better tool to evaluate b/c I can actually stop and rewind. I can also keep an eye on the same player for multiple possessions, then rewind and take a look at another player. Many schools will also stream their games online as well.
Sorry for being long winded, but I figured my boy, ballplayers, needed a detailed explanation. I hope that clears things up for everybody. There is a decent amount of travel involved, but the summer events and the JUCO jamborees allow me to see hundreds of players in two or three days.
explains the fact that Watson hasn't signed?
Scoops Callahan:QuoteJames Watson the Washington State guy signed a national letter of intent with Kansas State yesterday.QuoteKellisRobinett - Cowley College says former Washington State forward James Watson hasn't signed with K-State. Could happen soon, but nothing official yet.
meek article on watson. have to admit i haven't really paid too much attention to him, but an interesting story.
(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/photos/spt051511watsonRonald.jpg)
http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat (http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat)
meek article on watson. have to admit i haven't really paid too much attention to him, but an interesting story.
(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/photos/spt051511watsonRonald.jpg)
http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat (http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat)
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Scholarship numbers be damned, #KState is expressing interest in yet another transfer. This time, from Louisville. http://kan.st/aZ
Quoterobcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Scholarship numbers be damned, #KState is expressing interest in yet another transfer. This time, from Louisville. http://kan.st/aZ
A career high of 8 points with Louisville and 1 year of eligibility left. Awww-right . . . :pbj:
Quoterobcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Scholarship numbers be damned, #KState is expressing interest in yet another transfer. This time, from Louisville. http://kan.st/aZ
Quoterobcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Scholarship numbers be damned, #KState is expressing interest in yet another transfer. This time, from Louisville. http://kan.st/aZ
name?
If Rod would leave, and we get this guy. I will become a Doc Sadler fan. I can't take this.
If Rod would leave, and we get this guy. I will become a Doc Sadler fan. I can't take this.
change mcgruder to samuels, but yeah, this would be the straw that does it. what a joke.
his latest tweetIf Rod would leave, and we get this guy. I will become a Doc Sadler fan. I can't take this.
change mcgruder to samuels, but yeah, this would be the straw that does it. what a joke.
Great, another Jermaine Maybank.MURDA!
Great, another Jermaine Maybank.MURDA!
Great, another Jermaine Maybank.MURDA!
As far as I'm concerned, that KU game paid for his scholarship.
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/lou/sports/m-baskbl/auto_headshot/5751369.jpeg)
GOODE ENOUGH
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27". If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27". If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting
I read that at the Derby Classic Game, Ware said he was going to Louisville.
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27". If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting
I read that at the Derby Classic Game, Ware said he was going to Louisville.
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27". If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting
I read that at the Derby Classic Game, Ware said he was going to Louisville.
I guess Kevin likes rapists then? :dunno:
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27". If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.
http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting
I read that at the Derby Classic Game, Ware said he was going to Louisville.
I guess Kevin likes rapists then? :dunno:
what the eff are you talking about?
Was thinking the same thing myself, settled on him thinking Rick Pitino was a rapist.
What do you know about James Watson?. What stands out about him?
Well, we're going to have a guard that can dunk a basketball . . . in a game. That's something we haven't had since I've been here. He's long and athletic. He and Jeremy both play with energy and a passion that is typical of Frank Martin-type players. James has a good skill set. He can shoot threes and is explosive.
:dubious:
seems like he misspoke to me :dunno:
trashed the rest of our forwards for not being able to dunk :dubious:
If he meant forward, it's a dumb statement.
If he meant guard, it's a dumb statement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVThZ-krYCg
Guard.
If he meant forward, it's a dumb statement.
with re. to watson dunking in games a lot, probably. with re. to kstate's figger era fowards not dunking much, not really.
We've seen our fair share from Jamar, Curtis, Wally, and Jordan. Haven't we?
On Wednesday, Goode told CBSSports.com he was down to Kansas State, Missouri and Morehead State for his next destination.
does this go here?? i have no clue.QuoteOn Wednesday, Goode told CBSSports.com he was down to Kansas State, Missouri and Morehead State for his next destination.
http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/29900679
does this go here?? i have no clue.QuoteOn Wednesday, Goode told CBSSports.com he was down to Kansas State, Missouri and Morehead State for his next destination.
http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/29900679
the eff is going on? :horrorsurprise:
7th in B12
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1229903
goode announcing in 30 minutes via twitter
goode announcing in 30 minutes via twitter
Any indication of where?
7th in B12
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1229903
How did Tech have a better class than us?
it's mizzou :bracketmouse:
did mu have a spot to give?
did mu have a spot to give?
it's mizzou :bracketmouse:
Goode Thing We Didn't Get Him!
Goode Riddance!
I haven't been keeping up on the 2011 class...but I know the guys we have are Angel Rodriguez, Jeremy Jones, the transfer from WSU, Adrian Diaz, and Thomas Gipson. Any more? What do you guys think of the class in general?
I haven't been keeping up on the 2011 class...but I know the guys we have are Angel Rodriguez, Jeremy Jones, the transfer from WSU, Adrian Diaz, and Thomas Gipson. Any more? What do you guys think of the class in general?
It would be great if there were a master list, perhaps in the initial post of these recruiting threads, where the mods could update our commits along with our verbals, mentions, etc... New people to the thread could go there for a quick primer instead of reading 80+ pages... ya know for easy reference. Sounds like a lot of work but it's really not. It would also give jt' one less opportunity to make an absolute douchey comment all the while thinking he's being amazingly witty.
is there a jeremy jones highlight vid anywhere in the world? i've yet to find one.
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
:kstatriot:
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
:kstatriot:
Thanks for the report, Diaz look redic thin or maybe put on a little muscle already?
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
:kstatriot:
:bball:I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
:kstatriot:
Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
:kstatriot:
Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
:kstatriot:
Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.
The three Amigos :alleyoop:
:opcat: :opcat: :ck:I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
:kstatriot:
Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.
The three Amigos :alleyoop:
:opcat:
6'/2012/PG/Carmelo Betancourt via San Juan, Puerto Rico has committed to the University of Akron. Betancourt plays on the 19U National team.
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
:kstatriot:
Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.
The three Amigos :alleyoop:
:opcat:
Hey, watchit El Guapo :shakesfist:
K-State is love. #justsaying
austin_meek Austin Meek
ETA for K-State hoops signee Jeremy Jones is the end of July. He had originally hoped to finish juco classes and be on campus by July 5.
Quoteaustin_meek Austin Meek
ETA for K-State hoops signee Jeremy Jones is the end of July. He had originally hoped to finish juco classes and be on campus by July 5.
So is Jones not going to qualify? I assume this means he had to take another course to get it done...
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Juco guard Jeremy Jones, the only member of #KState's 2011 hoops class not already on campus, awaits clearance. tinyurl.com/5sc8tz5
Quoterobcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Juco guard Jeremy Jones, the only member of #KState's 2011 hoops class not already on campus, awaits clearance. tinyurl.com/5sc8tz5
Someone with a sub check this out and summarize.
TIA
Quoterobcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Juco guard Jeremy Jones, the only member of #KState's 2011 hoops class not already on campus, awaits clearance. tinyurl.com/5sc8tz5
Someone with a sub check this out and summarize.
TIA
I took my last class through email at Adams State," Jones, who signed a letter of intent in April, said. "I'm just waiting on Adams State to send my transcript to (Seward County). Then, my junior college has to send my transcript to K-State. After that, I'll be good.
Hate to sound like a tard, but what the hell is a email class?
Hate to sound like a tard, but what the hell is a email class?
Ballin' is a Habit:QuoteIowa signs a 26 year old ex-con from the JuCo ranks
I think it is safe to say that we know who the most interesting incoming recruit in the country next season will be.
26 year old Anthony Hubbard, who signed with Iowa on Saturday.
He dropped out of high school in the 10th grade in 2002. One of his brothers was killed that same year. And on December 13th, 2003, was charged with four felonies for breaking into a house and robbing and beating a man in that house. Hubbard turned himself in three days later, eventually getting sentenced to three years and eleven months in prison. He reportedly drove the getaway car.
But that incident, as violent as it seems, was apparently an outlying mistake made by a kid than a precursor to a life of crime.
Iowa transfer Anthony Hubbard will land at Wichita St per reports.
Tragic news. Eric Katenda was blinded in his left eye last month. ND will honor scholarship.
An undisclosed medical condition has led point guard Shane Larkin to decide against joining the DePaul Blue Demons.
The university announced Thursday that Larkin's condition requires him to be closer to his Orlando, Fla., home and thus he will not attend DePaul. Larkin, son of baseball great Barry Larkin, had been the top prospect in coach Oliver Purnell's recruiting class.
Former Iowa signee Anthony Hubbard has committed to Morgan State as part of their 2011 class.
Found out that Eric Wallace just visited us.
He has a year of eligibility left and was released from DePaul not too long ago. He is looking to do the masters program thing where you dont have to sit out a year.
He transferred from Ohio State to DePaul in 2008 but missed last year with a fractured leg.
Here is what his twitter said after his visit.Quote from: Eric Wallace's TwitterK-State is love. #justsaying
High school rivals page:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ohiostate/basketball/recruiting/player-Eric-Wallace-23388;_ylt=Am8ojSc4SQfYSrZvBLXC5gdptJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ohiostate/basketball/recruiting/player-Eric-Wallace-23388;_ylt=Am8ojSc4SQfYSrZvBLXC5gdptJB4)
Not that there is any connection, but interesting. Top 100 kid available; dismissed largely because of a tweet.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/basketball/recruiting/player-D.J.-Gardner-96080
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2011-08-26/mississippi-state-dismisses-freshman-DJamer-gardner-after-tweets
A 6'6" guy with a center's game? No thanks, we showed one of thse types the door.
Are you seriously trying to compare a guy who was 6'4" 195 during his final yr of HS ball to a guy who's already 6'6" 245 BEFORE his Sr yr has even begun? Even though Sutton did primarily play in the post before he went to prep school, I don't think anyone expected him to be a post player in DI ball due to his lack of height and overall body mass. Compounding his physical limitations to becoming a post player was the fact that he was an inconsisten finisher around the rim, particularly in traffic. If Dom had anywhere near the touch or finishing ability of David Hoskins, I firmly beleive he would be staying at KSU.
A far more accurate comparison to Gipson would be Ron Anderson because both are slightly undersized height wise but possess wide frames which would allow each to create space in the lane, and hopefully allow them to be effective in the post on both ends of the floor. Unlike Sutton, both had/have a realistical projection of being a post players in high major ball, The primary difference between Anderson and Gipson before they reached college is that Anderson was chubby and out shape when he came to KSU in the Fall of 07. He was listed at 6'8" 260 but I don't think he's any taller than 6'7". Gipson right now has a man's body and it looks like he's already been involved in a college weight program the past couple years. For Gipson's sake, I hope he displays more intensity, fire, and is able to establish more of a physical presence than Anderson ever did in his time at KSU.
As Bossi alluded to in his comments, he believes Gipson projects as a "niche player" in the B12, ie a banger/enforcer type who works to create space for himself and his teammates in the lane and who finishes when given the opportunity down low. Just to give you an example of a current B12 player who has found success in a similar role, he reminds me of Marshall Moses from Oklahoma St, minus Moses's tendency to cheap shot of course, but that's not always a terrible thing, IMO.
UW is the absolute best.:thumbs:
UW is the absolute best.
I must admit though, that Gip's impact and offensive ability really have been a pleasant surprise, to me at least. I was buying into more of the "niche player" talk, for the early part of his career at least, but his play so far has already surpassed that. I just hope he can maintain his high level of play through conference season and the rest of the year, we are going to need it.
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