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Title: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on January 24, 2010, 04:47:50 PM
2011 Recruiting Thread
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on January 25, 2010, 07:24:05 PM
This class is huge.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on January 25, 2010, 07:53:16 PM
quin cook!  Or not.  :blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nunyabusiness on January 25, 2010, 08:15:15 PM
TP is going to sue the crap out of the owners of this site. Not for just copying ksufans.com, but soliciting his members to join this site. You guys just FITZED up. Literally...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on January 25, 2010, 08:16:15 PM
:runningaroundincirclesguy:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Gooch on January 25, 2010, 08:17:07 PM
 :ohno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on January 25, 2010, 08:19:33 PM
TP is going to sue the crap out of the owners of this site. Not for just copying ksufans.com, but soliciting his members to join this site. You guys just FITZED up. Literally...

keep this crap out of the 2011 recruiting thread.  TIA.

Also, Southwell has a 4 star team mate why aren't we recruiting him?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SuperG on January 27, 2010, 02:59:06 PM
TP is going to sue the crap out of the owners of this site. Not for just copying ksufans.com, but soliciting his members to join this site. You guys just FITZED up. Literally...

Odd use of "literally" or "Literally..."  :confused:

I'm not sure if it's possible to literally "Fitz Up" or even "eff Up" for that matter. It's a figure of speech and that alone makes it not literal. Anyway, I'll drop it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on January 28, 2010, 12:47:00 PM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/01/27/southwell-jack-talk-sny-invite-recruiting/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: BigPapi on January 28, 2010, 12:51:27 PM
Tell me again why we aren't going after Jack?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on January 28, 2010, 02:45:07 PM
Tell me again why we aren't going after Jack?

maybe they did, and he wasn't interested?  maybe they didn't think that highly of him until this year (most teams didn't), and are now either too late, or not interested in another post in the 2010 class?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on January 28, 2010, 08:16:24 PM
towards the end southwell talks a bit about jack not listening to him re. kstate, and about leaning on 2011 teammate jermaine sanders.  no indication if the kstate staff wanted southwell to recruit either player.

http://web.sny.tv/media/video.jsp?content_id=7150977&topic_id=6479520



http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jermaine-Sanders-102536
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on February 02, 2010, 10:25:29 PM
Talked To QUIN COOK on facebook, I asked if Kansas State was high on his list? he replied "yeah real high".. so  :bball:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 02, 2010, 10:29:13 PM
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on February 02, 2010, 10:37:25 PM
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.
I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 02, 2010, 10:56:58 PM
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.
I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT

yes, but that'd still just be the one source.  you need an independent confirmation.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 03, 2010, 07:54:17 AM
lol sys
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on February 03, 2010, 08:19:31 AM
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.
:pray:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WildcatNkilt on February 03, 2010, 08:35:06 AM
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.
I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT

:waiting:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on February 03, 2010, 06:24:27 PM
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.
I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT

yes, but that'd still just be the one source.  you need an independent confirmation.
how is facebook NOT independent? its him typing the letters on a keyboard, and sending them lol
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 03, 2010, 06:39:45 PM
oh.  my bad.  go ahead and copy and paste then.  thx.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 03, 2010, 06:59:47 PM
 :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on February 04, 2010, 07:52:58 AM
see if you can get him to confirm on twitter.
I can Copy n paste from the FBOOK CHAT

yes, but that'd still just be the one source.  you need an independent confirmation.
how is facebook NOT independent? its him typing the letters on a keyboard, and sending them lol
facebook was determined to be NON-INDEPENDENT by ICANN (http://www.icann.org/) like 6-8 weeks ago.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on February 04, 2010, 07:25:46 PM
Quote
QCook323
 
Had a great talk with one of the most influential people in my life @coachadkins. Love you coach! RiP DAD!
   :confused:

http://twitter.com/coachadkins (http://twitter.com/coachadkins)   :runaway:  :bawl:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 04, 2010, 07:32:27 PM
Quote
QCook323
 
Had a great talk with one of the most influential people in my life @coachadkins. Love you coach! RiP DAD!
   :confused:

http://twitter.com/coachadkins (http://twitter.com/coachadkins)   :runaway:  :bawl:
:embarrassed:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 04, 2010, 07:35:53 PM
tough to compete w/ a guy about as handsome as a child produced by deb patterson and brad underwood.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on February 04, 2010, 08:45:47 PM
Quote
QCook323
 
Had a great talk with one of the most influential people in my life @coachadkins. Love you coach! RiP DAD!
   :confused:

http://twitter.com/coachadkins (http://twitter.com/coachadkins)   :runaway:  :bawl:

Maryland?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 05, 2010, 12:08:21 PM
anybody know anything about this guy?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Marquis-Jackson-104055?colleges=show#college_choices
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 05, 2010, 12:26:15 PM
looks like a fball recruit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kcchiefdav on February 07, 2010, 08:02:34 AM
anybody know anything about this guy?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Marquis-Jackson-104055?colleges=show#college_choices

Seems hella fast and athletic aka we could use him but Mizzou will steal him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on February 07, 2010, 08:57:18 AM
anybody know anything about this guy?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Marquis-Jackson-104055?colleges=show#college_choices

Seems hella fast and athletic aka we could use him but Texas will steal him as a wide receiver.

FYP
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on February 07, 2010, 10:02:23 AM
ARod just got 3 stars on rivals.  I wonder when they'll update their top 150 for 2011.  would like to see where Nino and Angel fall, since both are having v. good seasons.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 07, 2010, 03:26:10 PM
Quote from: qcook323
UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: theswo on February 07, 2010, 05:21:17 PM
Quote from: qcook323
UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!
:bang:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on February 07, 2010, 05:44:19 PM
sys, what are our chances with Cook?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 07, 2010, 07:08:41 PM
Quote from: qcook323
UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!

:blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Winters on February 08, 2010, 07:15:02 PM
Quote from: qcook323
UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!
:blindfold:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on February 08, 2010, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: qcook323
UNC neeeeeds a Point Guard!!!

we need  BMW(jhawk) to steer him to KSU ... or just away from Roy
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 09, 2010, 12:46:27 PM
old peoria newspaper note on donivine stewart.  no mention of kstate.

Quote
Widespread reports of Limestone junior Donivine Stewart’s imminent commitment to Bradley could be premature. “DWorld” said Tuesday he likely will wait until next summer to choose a college, and he mentioned Northwestern and Clemson as schools that were supposed to be in Pekin to watch him. Through Tuesday, however, the only college coaches to see Stewart were Bradley’s unpaid assistant, Chuck Buescher, and Western Illinois boss Jim Molinari.


http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x980513373/Stewart-Limestone-junior-still-is-looking
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 09, 2010, 01:00:53 PM
another one.  even older.


http://www.illinihq.com/blogs/recruiting_wrap/2009/09/29/donivine_stewart_planning_visits
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SuperG on February 10, 2010, 12:19:05 AM
Illini and WVU should be our only real competition on that list if we really want him... especially with Pullen on the team.  Can Frank really go toe-to-toe, head-to-head, man-to-drunken fat man with Huggs?  :ohno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on February 10, 2010, 04:09:18 PM
sys, what are our chances with Cook?
Pretty good according to what he told me.  kstate is "pretty high" on his list.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 10, 2010, 04:47:03 PM
Pretty good according to what he told me.  kstate is "pretty high" on his list.

weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on February 10, 2010, 10:12:06 PM
Pretty good according to what he told me.  kstate is "pretty high" on his list.

weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?
It was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on February 12, 2010, 02:39:53 AM
Pretty good according to what he told me.  kstate is "pretty high" on his list.

weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?
It was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.
kstatefreak42 seems to have DL on all the 'cruits.  :cool:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 12, 2010, 06:40:24 AM
Pretty good according to what he told me.  kstate is "pretty high" on his list.

weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?
It was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.
kstatefreak42 seems to have DL on be stalking all the 'cruits.  :cool:

FYP
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on February 12, 2010, 09:04:53 AM
Pretty good according to what he told me.  kstate is "pretty high" on his list.

weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?
It was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.
kstatefreak42 seems to have DL on be stalking all the 'cruits.  :cool:

FYP
wouldnt say the dL. I dont rely on other source's.. I just go ahead and ask them straight up. and if they reply, i report the information back here
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 15, 2010, 09:54:08 AM
larkin update.  no mention of kstate.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1052325

Quote
In terms of recruiting, there are numerous schools showing Larkin attention.

"It has been going good," he said. "I am hearing from Clemson, California, Minnesota, Harvard called, Virginia, Georgia, USF, Wake Forest, Cincinnati, VCU, George Mason, UCF, Georgia Tech, and some others."

Out of those schools, Larkin has offers from Clemson, South Florida, VCU, George Mason, and Central Florida.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 15, 2010, 10:03:47 AM
Indication we are feeling pretty good about Angel?  Seems like, with the list of schools he mentioned, we would get mentioned if we were pursuing. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 15, 2010, 10:18:23 AM
Indication we are feeling pretty good about Angel?  Seems like, with the list of schools he mentioned, we would get mentioned if we were pursuing. 

idk, you'd think kstate would still be recruiting other options even if they felt 99.99% sure they were getting rodriguez tricoche.  more like an indication of laziness if you ask me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 16, 2010, 09:25:43 AM
Quote
KCPREPHOOPS    Top 6 players in Kansas City at this point- Daylen Robinson, Trevor Releford, Nino Williams, Maurice Holliday, Will Spradling, Deontae Hooks
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: stunz on February 17, 2010, 07:16:03 PM
Pretty good according to what he told me.  kstate is "pretty high" on his list.

weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?
It was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.
kstatefreak42 seems to have DL on be stalking all the 'cruits.  :cool:

FYP
wouldnt say the dL. I dont rely on other source's.. I just go ahead and ask them straight up. and if they reply, i report the information back here

make more facebook accounts under different schools, and compare the responses
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on February 21, 2010, 02:34:38 PM
Pretty good according to what he told me.  kstate is "pretty high" on his list.

weren't you going to post a transcript of your chat w. him?
It was on the "facebook chat" feature. I'll have to get him to say it again. Sorry Sys. forgot to post it immediately.
kstatefreak42 seems to have DL on be stalking all the 'cruits.  :cool:

FYP
wouldnt say the dL. I dont rely on other source's.. I just go ahead and ask them straight up. and if they reply, i report the information back here

make more facebook accounts under different schools, and compare the responses
good idea.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on February 21, 2010, 02:35:43 PM
Quote
KCPREPHOOPS    Top 6 players in Kansas City at this point- Daylen Robinson, Trevor Releford, Nino Williams, Maurice Holliday, Will Spradling, Deontae Hooks


Is that supposed to be "in order?"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 22, 2010, 01:58:06 PM
Wessel to Wichita State.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 22, 2010, 06:56:16 PM
Wessel to Wichita State.

good get for them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 23, 2010, 02:32:13 PM
Hmmm, we're on McLemore's scout profile.

http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4811085
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on February 23, 2010, 03:16:24 PM
Hmmm, we're on McLemore's scout profile.

http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4811085

nice.  should I be scared of going head to head for a kid with Mike Anderson?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 23, 2010, 03:26:38 PM
Hmmm, we're on McLemore's scout profile.

http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4811085

nice.  should I be scared of going head to head for a kid with Mike Anderson?

I wish I could say no.  But probably.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 23, 2010, 03:50:42 PM
Hmmm, we're on McLemore's scout profile.

http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4811085

nice.  should I be scared of going head to head for a kid with Mike Anderson?

depends on if $$ is involved...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 23, 2010, 05:23:06 PM
Hmmm, we're on McLemore's scout profile.

http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4811085

nice.  should I be scared of going head to head for a kid with Mike Anderson?

sweet.  anderson has been good on local recruits.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 23, 2010, 10:25:52 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Ben-McLemore-108908

rivals updated him too.  bunch of lemmings.


from gpcwallace:

Quote
McCaw listed Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Ole Miss and Providence as schools that have already offered. Kansas State has recently called, and McCaw will be busy fielding many more calls in the coming days.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 23, 2010, 11:13:17 PM
Quote
In 8th grade, McLemore stood just 5-foot-8. He began to grow as he reached high school and during his sophomore season he was stuck in the post and averaged 15 points and 10 boards a game.

Then at the beginning of his junior year, McCaw was hired at Eskridge and he began the transition to playing on the wing.

“I asked him ‘what position do you think you play?,’ McCaw said. “He said he was a four, and I told him ‘no, you’re a guard.’ If he wants to prepare for the next level he had to become a guard.”

“He’s getting more and more acclimated with the system and more comfortable,” the Eskridge coach added. “His court awareness is better and I’m bringing him along because I played point guard. I’m helping him process to know what he’s doing.”

With the move to the wing, McLemore has put countless hours in the gym, and it’s beginning to pay off. In fact he’s nearly doubled his point production, as he averages 28 points, 13 rebounds and just over six assists per game.

McLemore, who just turned 17, had interest from Mississippi, Providence, Missouri, Missouri State, Southern Illinois, St. Louis, TN-Martin and Tennessee State prior to this weekend. On Sunday and Monday a few high majors tossed their hats in the mix.

“I’ve had Arkansas call, Kansas State call and I just got off the phone with Ohio State,” McCaw informed Scout.com. “Everything has just sped up.

from the scout article.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bleedpurple on February 23, 2010, 11:21:07 PM
He's a freak...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5HXWx7GdBs
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 24, 2010, 03:13:07 AM
more of the same.  mclemore supposedly played for the st louis majestics last year.  the majestics are adidas, the eagles nike.

the same article also updated moses abraham (now 2010).  no mention of kstate.


Quote
McLemore is 6 feet 5, weighs 185 pounds and is loaded with athleticism. Before he suits up for the St. Louis Eagles travel team alongside Beal this spring, McLemore will already have plenty of scholarship offers.

McCaw listed Arkansas, Missouri, Nebraska, Ole Miss and Providence as schools that have already offered. Kansas State has recently called, and McCaw will be busy fielding many more calls in the coming days.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1055531
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 24, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
McCaw sounds like a good dude.  At least for a high school coach.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on February 24, 2010, 08:01:21 AM
yeah nike.  boo adidas  :cool:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on February 24, 2010, 09:35:34 PM
McCaw sounds like a good dude.  At least for a high school coach.

Its always good to see HS coaches get players where they need ot be for the next level over what may benefit his team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Gooch on February 24, 2010, 10:00:16 PM
He's a freak...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5HXWx7GdBs

:love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on February 24, 2010, 10:39:12 PM
KU getting involved with McLemore now. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 28, 2010, 10:09:34 AM
mclemore visited ui.  also includes discussion of his hs plans next year.  it'd be ridiculous if he and beal were playing on the same team as seniors.  no mention of kstate.

Quote
According to McCaw, McLemore has some work to do in the classroom, but he is making good progress and hopes to become eligible for his freshman season in college.

"I have some catching up to do," said McLemore. "I got behind my freshman and sophomore years, but I'm picking it up and my grades are good this year."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 02, 2010, 11:07:56 AM
This has a lot of potential to be a dumb question, if it is, you can go easy on me.

For HBBIQ posters, it is obvious that we have hit a wall with recruiting. Is there any chance that this is because Martin and co. plan on leaving and see no need to recruit here?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WildcatNkilt on March 02, 2010, 11:18:47 AM
This has a lot of potential to be a dumb question, if it is, you can go easy on me.

For HBBIQ posters, it is obvious that we have hit a wall with recruiting. Is there any chance that this is because Martin and co. plan on leaving and see no need to recruit here?

No.  That would be setting yourself up for failure.  Plus, he could always attempt to take the recruits with him (see Huggins).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SwiftCat on March 02, 2010, 12:13:33 PM
This has a lot of potential to be a dumb question, if it is, you can go easy on me.

For HBBIQ posters, it is obvious that we have hit a wall with recruiting. Is there any chance that this is because Martin and co. plan on leaving and see no need to recruit here?

No.  That would be setting yourself up for failure.  Plus, he could always attempt to take the recruits with him (see Huggins).


For the record, I can't see Frank trying to do this.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 02, 2010, 12:16:32 PM
This has a lot of potential to be a dumb question, if it is, you can go easy on me.

For HBBIQ posters, it is obvious that we have hit a wall with recruiting. Is there any chance that this is because Martin and co. plan on leaving and see no need to recruit here?

No.  That would be setting yourself up for failure. Plus, he could always attempt to take the recruits with him (see Huggins).


For the record, I can't see Frank trying to do this.

He would in a heartbeat.  If he wouldn't, I question his motivation.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 02, 2010, 12:18:07 PM
No.  That would be setting yourself up for failure.  Plus, he could always attempt to take the recruits with him (see Huggins).

For the record, I can't see Frank trying to do this.

he's not going to leave asprilla stranded out in buttfuck, ks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SwiftCat on March 02, 2010, 12:39:14 PM

he's not going to leave asprilla stranded out in buttfrack, ks.

 :embarrassed: I live in buttfrack?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 02, 2010, 12:42:31 PM
:embarrassed: I live in buttfrack?

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=1396.0

dunno.  you can check here.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 03, 2010, 11:00:23 PM
don't really have a feel for the protocol on this:  can it be assumed that goEMAW readers also check the ksufans recruiting threads?  or should info there be placed here?

at any rate, per scout as interpreted on ksufans, justin gant got a few letters from kstate.  here's his profile:



http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Justin-Gant-84522
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 04, 2010, 05:55:01 AM
don't really have a feel for the protocol on this:  can it be assumed that goEMAW readers also check the ksufans recruiting threads?  or should info there be placed here?

at any rate, per scout as interpreted on ksufans, justin gant got a few letters from kstate.  here's his profile:



http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Justin-Gant-84522

I'm banned.  You should let anyone posting in ksufans threads that the true bb recruiting followers are here, and that's where they should post all their info.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 04, 2010, 06:45:42 AM
I'm banned.  You should let anyone posting in ksufans threads that the true bb recruiting followers are here, and that's where they should post all their info.

i'll summarize here or something.  i think the guy doing a lot of recruiting updates now is part of an effort to upgrade their site.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 05, 2010, 08:01:59 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/AR2010030404491.html

cook article, no mention of kstate.  the new staff at arizona is doing a great job of getting mentions and visits.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2010, 08:06:01 AM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/04/AR2010030404491.html

cook article, no mention of kstate.  the new staff at arizona is doing a great job of getting mentions and visits.

Honestly, if Arizona can get an unofficial, and we can't, we suck.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 05, 2010, 08:13:28 AM
i'll be really surprised if kstate gets a visit.



townsend in st. louis watching mclemore last night, btw.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2010, 08:15:03 AM
i'll be really surprised if kstate gets a visit.



townsend in st. louis watching mclemore last night, btw.

saw that.  Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something.  :flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 05, 2010, 08:20:01 AM
saw that.  Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something.  :flush:

your pessimism is starting to rub off.  i'm going to need to start seeing some 2011-12 mentions soon.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 05, 2010, 08:21:55 AM
saw that.  Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something.  :flush:

your pessimism is starting to rub off.  i'm going to need to start seeing some 2011-12 mentions soon.

all the recruiting threads are incredibly depressing to read.  even when jmart was finding out recruiting tidbits, there were still other ksu mentions to be googled.  now, there's just nothing. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2010, 08:25:15 AM
saw that.  Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something.  :flush:

your pessimism is starting to rub off.  i'm going to need to start seeing some 2011-12 mentions soon.

all the recruiting threads are incredibly depressing to read.  even when jmart was finding out recruiting tidbits, there were still other ksu mentions to be googled.  now, there's just nothing. 

to be fair, it's not a real busy time.  When the AAU tourneys start up, we'll hopefully get another "Boynton saying, 'yeah, look into me listing KSU first'" moment.  (really, that was the peak of KSU basketball recruiting since November of 07.)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 05, 2010, 08:37:38 AM
saw that.  Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something.  :flush:

your pessimism is starting to rub off.  i'm going to need to start seeing some 2011-12 mentions soon.

all the recruiting threads are incredibly depressing to read.  even when jmart was finding out recruiting tidbits, there were still other ksu mentions to be googled.  now, there's just nothing. 

to be fair, it's not a real busy time.  When the AAU tourneys start up, we'll hopefully get another "Boynton saying, 'yeah, look into me listing KSU first'" moment.  (really, that was the peak of KSU basketball recruiting since November of 07.)

recruiting seems like it's been dry for a long, long time.  it's basically been "did cook mention us in someone else's update? no? okay.  has bhoops give us some stupid update on Perry Ellis yet?"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2010, 08:40:31 AM
saw that.  Maybe we sent Underwood to watch Ellis or something.  :flush:

your pessimism is starting to rub off.  i'm going to need to start seeing some 2011-12 mentions soon.

all the recruiting threads are incredibly depressing to read.  even when jmart was finding out recruiting tidbits, there were still other ksu mentions to be googled.  now, there's just nothing. 

to be fair, it's not a real busy time.  When the AAU tourneys start up, we'll hopefully get another "Boynton saying, 'yeah, look into me listing KSU first'" moment.  (really, that was the peak of KSU basketball recruiting since November of 07.)

recruiting seems like it's been dry for a long, long time.  it's basically been "did cook mention us in someone else's update? no? okay.  has bhoops give us some stupid update on Perry Ellis yet?"

It has been pretty dry, at least compared to the Huggins year.  It's amplified by the fact that Judge and McGruder committed so early and Mitchell was pretty much under-the-radar for most of the time he was committed to us.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 05, 2010, 08:52:50 AM
We should just announce a Rodriguez-Trioche committment to save face
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2010, 08:56:29 AM
We should just announce a Rodriguez-Trioche committment to save face

Pretty lame face-saving, if you ask me.  HE HASN'T EVEN PLAYED SUMMER BALL.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2010, 09:08:03 AM
can't wait for the 5 stars to come rolling in since we are ranked high and stuff.  also the espn stuff.  gonna be great, can't wait, want to mate!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2010, 09:16:45 AM
Will be interesting to see what Frank does with the 4 'ships available; this year's extra, then Pullen/Sutton/Kelly.

I'm just hopeful we don't sign another Awaji/Gilbert JUCO in the late signing period for '10.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 05, 2010, 09:22:42 AM
I'm just hopeful we don't sign another Awaji/Gilbert JUCO in the late signing period for '10.

You know we will
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 05, 2010, 09:26:03 AM
Will be interesting to see what Frank does with the 4 'ships available; this year's extra, then Pullen/Sutton/Kelly.



leave?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 05, 2010, 09:38:32 AM
i'm praying for a juco guard.  scared they're going to give it to some irving clone they think they can coach up.


rodriguez tricoche is going to make michigancat look pretty stupid when he ends up being as good as chris corchiani.  hopefully he commits during his game with shane larkin tonight.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/04/1511826/hes-not-going-to-let-you-lose.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 05, 2010, 09:44:01 AM
i'm praying for a juco guard.  scared they're going to give it to some irving clone they think they can coach up.


rodriguez tricoche is going to make michigancat look pretty stupid when he ends up being as good as chris corchiani.  hopefully he commits during his game with shane larkin tonight.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/04/1511826/hes-not-going-to-let-you-lose.html

Hope you and Art and Shakey are right.  Hopefully Tony Smith for the guard.  (I really have no idea who would be better).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2010, 09:48:20 AM
i'm praying for a juco guard.  scared they're going to give it to some irving clone they think they can coach up.


rodriguez tricoche is going to make michigancat look pretty stupid when he ends up being as good as chris corchiani.  hopefully he commits during his game with shane larkin tonight.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/04/1511826/hes-not-going-to-let-you-lose.html

Hope you and Art and Shakey are right.  Hopefully Tony Smith for the guard.  (I really have no idea who would be better).

Art will be in town for Lou's SR deal tomorrow.  FWIW.

And sys was right yesterday, I look forward to the Rodriguez comparos to Denis by upset "traditional" K-State fans. 

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 05, 2010, 09:49:10 AM
And sys was right yesterday, I look forward to the Rodriguez comparos to Denis by upset "traditional" K-State fans. 

going to be great
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 05, 2010, 09:49:37 AM
Couldn't sound more like Frank describing Denis:

Quote
``The thing that is beautiful about Angel is that he's uninterested in the individual side of the game,'' Rodriguez said. ``He's so conscious of the team concept, but he'll go out and get 39 against Columbus because he has to. Then, he'll go have seven points and 10 assists in the next game. He's a special kid with special qualities. It's all about his basketball team. That's the greatest thing a player can have. All his teammates love playing with him.''
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 05, 2010, 09:52:39 AM
About where will Angel end up in the rankings?(not that it matters) High 3 star? 4 star?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2010, 10:39:49 AM
About where will Angel end up in the rankings?(not that it matters) High 3 star? 4 star?
Stacy Dean:   :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The Whale on March 05, 2010, 11:21:39 AM
About where will Angel end up in the rankings?(not that it matters) High 3 star? 4 star?
Stacy Dean:   :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:
Dobbie:   6  :D :D :D :D :D :D out of 8
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on March 05, 2010, 12:42:47 PM
LOLz
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 05, 2010, 05:05:34 PM
some guy on ouhoops says that kstate has shown some interest in robert goff.  a juco 2011.  presumably pretty perfunctory attention since kstate is not mentioned in a recent rivals update.

http://www.hovpen.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1059453

Quote
"I have been hearing a lot from Oklahoma, Xavier, Cincinnati, South Florida, Western Kentucky, and Alabama is recruiting me pretty hard," explained Goff. "I have offers from Oklahoma and Cincinnati."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2010, 09:46:09 AM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057

Art being Art.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 09:54:43 AM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057

Art being Art.

More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters.  Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on March 09, 2010, 09:56:30 AM
Quote
clone of J.J. Barea
 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2010, 09:57:12 AM
(http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/889/919910.jpg)
 :love: :love: :love: :love:


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2010, 09:57:24 AM
More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters.  Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?

Well, he was in town...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 09, 2010, 09:58:03 AM
Has Art ever had a guard that wasn't a clone of JJ?  LOVE YOU ART!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 09:59:25 AM
More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters.  Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?

Well, he was in town...

And they had a phone interview.  :flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2010, 10:00:19 AM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057

Art being Art.

""Angel just went berserk," Alverez said, recalling the contest. "He had 39 points and 19 assists. Those are legitimate numbers. They aren't just numbers from up in air, I mean 39 points and 19 assists."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: C_Manbeck on March 09, 2010, 10:00:24 AM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057

Art being Art.

More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters.  Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?

Tried calling Angel himself a week or so ago. Couldn't get him. Nothing wrong with interviewing Art. Good dude. I expect Rodriguez to end up at K-State.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on March 09, 2010, 10:01:57 AM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057

Art being Art.

More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters.  Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?

Tried calling Angel himself a week or so ago. Couldn't get him. Nothing wrong with interviewing Art. Good dude. I expect Rodriguez to end up at K-State.
you sound like one persistant SOB, you have a background in collections?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2010, 10:03:27 AM
Tried calling Angel himself a week or so ago. Couldn't get him. Nothing wrong with interviewing Art. Good dude. I expect Rodriguez to end up at K-State.

Yeah, and this is sounding like Asprilla's recruitment the 2nd time.  Everyone will want him, he's going to visit all over, etc., and "somehow" he picks K-State in the end.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 10:05:33 AM
http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061057

Art being Art.

More like lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters being lazy ass gpc recruiting reporters.  Is an Art Alvarez interview really the best they can come up with?

Tried calling Angel himself a week or so ago. Couldn't get him. Nothing wrong with interviewing Art. Good dude. I expect Rodriguez to end up at K-State.

There is nothing wrong with interviewing Art - there is something wrong with getting no new information and not interviewing anyone but Art.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 10:07:48 AM
tropicalshox says we're interested in this guy:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/hickoryhusker/basketball/recruiting/player-Alexander-Hutson-103740

I think it's old info, though:

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9106
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 09, 2010, 10:11:34 AM
tropicalshox says we're interested in this guy:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/hickoryhusker/basketball/recruiting/player-Alexander-Hutson-103740

I think it's old info, though:

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9106

Any idea on the connection?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 10:19:20 AM
tropicalshox says we're interested in this guy:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/hickoryhusker/basketball/recruiting/player-Alexander-Hutson-103740

I think it's old info, though:

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9106

Any idea on the connection?

No - nothing other than playing AAU w/ Justin Gant at one point.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on March 09, 2010, 10:32:48 AM
I hope to god our recruiting reporters are as lazy as they seem.  :flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 10:41:05 AM
I hope to god our recruiting reporters are as lazy as they seem.  :flush:

Frank said the assistants leave their families three nights a week to recruit or something.  Sound like they're trying, I guess.  :dunno:

But Hutson sounds like a great driveway shooter.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 09, 2010, 10:47:41 AM
I know Figger was in Florida about 10 days ago.  I have a fairly insidery type source I might just ask every week if (he/she) has heard from Figgs and where he is. 

FWIW... Figgs loves to  :cheers: :drink: :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 09, 2010, 11:02:30 AM
so we pretty much have no shot at Cook, correct?   Is this just fallout from Curtis hating us now?  Or is 'Te just incredibly and undeniably overrated?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 11:03:52 AM
so we pretty much have no shot at Cook, correct?   Is 'Te on the "every other year" recruiting schedule?  Or is this just fallout from Curtis hating us now?

Cook is 2011, so this would put him on the "every three years" recruiting schedule.   Hopefully.  :blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 09, 2010, 11:12:32 AM
so we pretty much have no shot at Cook, correct?   Is 'Te on the "every other year" recruiting schedule?  Or is this just fallout from Curtis hating us now?

Cook is 2011, so this would put him on the "every three years" recruiting schedule.   Hopefully.  :blank:

yeah, I changed my hate post.  just kind of seems like we're getting nothing out of the DCA moving forward.  No mentions, nothing.  wally and gruds not friends with any good players?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 09, 2010, 12:15:52 PM
Is this just fallout from Curtis hating us now?  Or is 'Te just incredibly and undeniably overrated?

the two things you said are the same thing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 01:18:25 PM
Quote from: RobCassidy
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook.  Obviously, they won't sign all three.  They see PG as the first need right now.  Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.

Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2010, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: RobCassidy
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook.  Obviously, they won't sign all three.  They see PG as the first need right now.  Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.

Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.

Is there anything out there telling them/us otherwise?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 01:24:46 PM
Quote from: RobCassidy
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook.  Obviously, they won't sign all three.  They see PG as the first need right now.  Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.

Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.

Is there anything out there telling them/us otherwise?

Yeah, like every interview ever done with Cook since he's been alive.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 09, 2010, 01:52:10 PM
Quote from: RobCassidy
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook.  Obviously, they won't sign all three.  They see PG as the first need right now.  Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.

Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.

Is there anything out there telling them/us otherwise?

Yeah, like every interview ever done with Cook since he's been alive.

Feel free to pile on here, but the few interviews I have read didn't indicate one way or the other.  Only indicated that he was wide open.

Granted, I haven't read more than a few.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on March 09, 2010, 02:05:13 PM
Quote from: RobCassidy
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook.  Obviously, they won't sign all three.  They see PG as the first need right now.  Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.

Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.

Gimme a break.  That's just Cassidy reading the rivals database.  If he really knew anything they would have articles on Boatright and Cook.  Cassidy knows dick.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: RobCassidy
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook.  Obviously, they won't sign all three.  They see PG as the first need right now.  Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.

Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.

Gimme a break.  That's just Cassidy reading the rivals database.  If he really knew anything they would have articles on Boatright and Cook.  Cassidy knows dick.

 :surprised:

 :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 09, 2010, 02:29:40 PM
Quote from: RobCassidy
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook.  Obviously, they won't sign all three.  They see PG as the first need right now.  Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.

Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.

Gimme a break.  That's just Cassidy reading the rivals database.  If he really knew anything they would have articles on Boatright and Cook.  Cassidy knows dick.

i agree.  i think rodriguez tricoche is basically theirs.  anything else they recruit is either swinging for the fences with nothing to lose, or a backup plan.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 09, 2010, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: RobCassidy
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook.  Obviously, they won't sign all three.  They see PG as the first need right now.  Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.

Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.

Gimme a break.  That's just Cassidy reading the rivals database.  If he really knew anything they would have articles on Boatright and Cook.  Cassidy knows dick.

are you meaning this in a good way or bad way?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 09, 2010, 02:42:31 PM
the russell tidbit is interesting.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
Quote from: RobCassidy
For 2011, they are primarily targeting three guards. Angel, Boatwright and Cook.  Obviously, they won't sign all three.  They see PG as the first need right now.  Russell isn't the kind of point they thought he was, making the position a need.

Kind of discouraging that they still think they have a shot w/ cook.

Gimme a break.  That's just Cassidy reading the rivals database.  If he really knew anything they would have articles on Boatright and Cook.  Cassidy knows dick.

i agree.  i think rodriguez tricoche is basically theirs.  anything else they recruit is either swinging for the fences with nothing to lose, or a backup plan.

even w/ bigs?  I would think they would want another big in '11.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 09, 2010, 02:49:59 PM
the russell tidbit is interesting.

no kidding....here comes the transfer rumors!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 09, 2010, 03:14:48 PM
even w/ bigs?  I would think they would want another big in '11.

yeah, no.  i just meant pgs.  i also assume they want a big in '11.  kinda don't like that there's no mentions w. quality '11 bigs.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 09, 2010, 03:25:22 PM
even w/ bigs?  I would think they would want another big in '11.

yeah, no.  i just meant pgs.  i also assume they want a big in '11.  kinda don't like that there's no mentions w. quality '11 bigs.

I was hopeful for a second when I saw the "Rakeem Christmas makes a surprise big 12 visit" headline.  It was a short second.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 10, 2010, 07:57:26 AM
Quote from:  re. A-Rod-Tri
Top 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 10, 2010, 08:01:11 AM
Quote from: Cassidy
I know more than dick on the subject.

Gotta love it when Echofon saves deleted tweets!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 10, 2010, 08:02:26 AM
Quote from: Cassidy
I know more than dick on the subject.

Gotta love it when Echofon catches deleted comments!

I love him
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 10, 2010, 10:15:57 AM
Will Martin's extension help with recruiting?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 10, 2010, 10:17:28 AM
Will Martin's extension help with recruiting?

about as much as our newly founded ESPN exposure.  :flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on March 10, 2010, 10:41:14 AM
Quote from: Cassidy
I know more than dick on the subject.

Gotta love it when Echofon saves deleted tweets!

 :driving:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 10, 2010, 11:19:53 AM
Quote from: Cassidy
I know more than dick on the subject.

Gotta love it when Echofon saves deleted tweets!

 :eek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 10, 2010, 11:20:20 AM
Quote from:  re. A-Rod-Tri
Top 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...

 :eek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on March 10, 2010, 11:43:03 AM
Quote from:  re. A-Rod-Tri
Top 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...

 :eek:

i'm not on the tweetosphere, who's that quote from? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2010, 11:44:21 AM
Quote from:  re. A-Rod-Tri
Top 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...

 :eek:

i'm not on the tweetosphere, who's that quote from? 

Not a tweet, but source is A+++
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on March 10, 2010, 12:06:10 PM
Quote from:  re. A-Rod-Tri
Top 3 in Florida 2011.....with Rivers & Larkin...

 :eek:

i'm not on the tweetosphere, who's that quote from? 

Not a tweet, but source is A+++

meyer?   :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on March 10, 2010, 12:41:29 PM
Rivals doesn't think much of state of Florida this year.  After Rivers at #7, the next highest is #82.  Still...good news if source is as legit as advertised.  I would be curious to hear who said this...(hinting for IM)

 :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on March 10, 2010, 01:25:55 PM
ballplayers?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 10, 2010, 01:29:46 PM
ballplayers?

yeah
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 11, 2010, 01:00:55 AM
cook update.  nothing new.

Quote
"It is the same, but Kansas is in the mix now and Arizona is in the mix," explained Cook of his recruitment. "Everything else is still the same. I don't have any favorites or anything. I am just taking everything one day at a time."

The offers from the Jayhawks and the Wildcats join existing grants from Georgetown, Indiana, Kansas State, Maryland, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest.

Recently Cook made an unofficial visit to College Park to check out the Terrapins game against the Duke Blue Devils.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061885

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: stunz on March 11, 2010, 01:51:52 AM
the russell tidbit is interesting.

my clent stewart comparison was spot-on
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2010, 06:37:49 AM
cook update.  nothing new.

Quote
"It is the same, but Kansas is in the mix now and Arizona is in the mix," explained Cook of his recruitment. "Everything else is still the same. I don't have any favorites or anything. I am just taking everything one day at a time."

The offers from the Jayhawks and the Wildcats join existing grants from Georgetown, Indiana, Kansas State, Maryland, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest.

Recently Cook made an unofficial visit to College Park to check out the Terrapins game against the Duke Blue Devils.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061885



WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 11, 2010, 06:50:23 AM
cook update.  nothing new.

Quote
"It is the same, but Kansas is in the mix now and Arizona is in the mix," explained Cook of his recruitment. "Everything else is still the same. I don't have any favorites or anything. I am just taking everything one day at a time."

The offers from the Jayhawks and the Wildcats join existing grants from Georgetown, Indiana, Kansas State, Maryland, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest.

Recently Cook made an unofficial visit to College Park to check out the Terrapins game against the Duke Blue Devils.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061885



WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:

We fire 'Te on the spot if we lose him to KU, right?  Someone tell me we are comfortable with A-Rod-Tri and we've "cooled" on him or something. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on March 11, 2010, 07:08:28 AM
cook update.  nothing new.

Quote
"It is the same, but Kansas is in the mix now and Arizona is in the mix," explained Cook of his recruitment. "Everything else is still the same. I don't have any favorites or anything. I am just taking everything one day at a time."

The offers from the Jayhawks and the Wildcats join existing grants from Georgetown, Indiana, Kansas State, Maryland, Notre Dame, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Wake Forest.

Recently Cook made an unofficial visit to College Park to check out the Terrapins game against the Duke Blue Devils.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1061885



WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:

We fire 'Te on the spot if we lose him to KU, right?  Someone tell me we are comfortable with A-Rod-Tri and we've "cooled" on him or something. 

We have to be.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on March 11, 2010, 07:09:52 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/04/1511826/hes-not-going-to-let-you-lose.html

even kind of looks like Denis

:love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 11, 2010, 11:52:13 AM
WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:

doesn't count.  writer just offer listing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 11, 2010, 12:51:14 PM
WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:

doesn't count.  writer just offer listing.

I know, idiot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 15, 2010, 11:12:55 PM
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=954136&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f954136.html

glaze to unlv.  a sad day for all wildcats except the ones coaching unlv.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 16, 2010, 12:35:28 AM
stewart to bradley.

http://wisconsin.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1063564
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on March 16, 2010, 08:54:18 AM
WE GOT A MENTION!!!! :pbj:

doesn't count.  writer just offer listing.

I know, idiot.

Don't get mad at other because you forgot to italicize.    :nono:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 16, 2010, 09:09:59 AM
worse recruiting from now, forward:  LHC Bill Snyder or Frank Marin?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The Whale on March 16, 2010, 09:27:08 AM
worse recruiting from now, forward:  LHC Bill Snyder or Frank Marin?

If Brown's already counted, then I've still got to go with Snyder being worse going forward.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on March 16, 2010, 10:04:47 AM
worse recruiting from now, forward:  LHC Bill Snyder or Frank Marin?

If Brown's already counted, then I've still got to go with Snyder being worse going forward.

I agree.  Snyder's transfer well is about to dry up.  Frank can probably milk it another several years at least.  Plus he's got Art.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on March 17, 2010, 01:28:41 PM
we're loaded with young talent.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 26, 2010, 12:24:15 AM
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2010, 09:32:17 AM
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?

I would like to know too.

Gonna need a PG.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on March 26, 2010, 09:36:22 AM
Cause Dalonte will be gone by then  :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2010, 09:47:22 AM
Cause Dalonte will be gone by then  :popcorn:

Where?  Word is that he is not in the running for Charlotte anymore. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Kermit on March 26, 2010, 12:26:26 PM
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?

Do we know if he has a favorite at this point?  He can step in and start right away most likely.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 12:35:40 PM
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?

Do we know if he has a favorite at this point?  He can step in and start right away most likely.

I think we have a couple issues here:

a) I don't think he likes us
b) we may have a myscommit already at PG for this class
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 26, 2010, 12:52:41 PM
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?

Do we know if he has a favorite at this point?  He can step in and start right away most likely.

I think we have a couple issues here:

a) I don't think he likes us
b) we may have a myscommit already at PG for this class

for 2011? or 2010?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 12:53:57 PM
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?

Do we know if he has a favorite at this point?  He can step in and start right away most likely.

I think we have a couple issues here:

a) I don't think he likes us
b) we may have a myscommit already at PG for this class

for 2011? or 2010?

a-rod-tri :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on March 26, 2010, 12:58:50 PM
We really need to have a better nickname than "a-rod-tri."  It just doesn't flow, ya know?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 26, 2010, 12:59:36 PM
We really need to have a better nickname than "a-rod-tri."  It just doesn't flow, ya know?

could call him art if we didn't already have an art
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on March 26, 2010, 01:06:14 PM
I'm thinking "Senior Hotpants"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on March 26, 2010, 02:47:01 PM
Why wouldn't Quinn want to play for us?
I'll find out... last time we talked he said kstate was high on his list.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 26, 2010, 03:11:26 PM
Specifically say how it would be a dream to be a guard in Frank's offense, so much freedom to run and gun.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 01, 2010, 11:09:31 AM
Quote
Dalonte Hill encountered the stress of game planning, practice and film sessions but also worked on the recruiting trail. In a move to build for the future while laboring in the present, Hill phoned Quinn Cook, the 20th-ranked prospect in the 2011 Class, frequently during the Wildcats' run to the Elite Eight.

 :pbj:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 01, 2010, 11:13:07 AM
Quote
Dalonte Hill encountered the stress of game planning, practice and film sessions but also worked on the recruiting trail. In a move to build for the future while laboring in the present, Hill phoned Quinn Cook, the 20th-ranked prospect in the 2011 Class, frequently during the Wildcats' run to the Elite Eight.

 :pbj:
:excited:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on April 01, 2010, 11:14:19 AM
C'mooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 01, 2010, 07:30:35 PM
not cook.  cook's aau coach.  who, imo, would be considerably more likely to commit to kstate.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 01, 2010, 07:32:07 PM
not cook.  cook's aau coach.  who, imo, would be considerably more likely to commit to kstate.

Yeah, but at least we have evidence they're working :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 01, 2010, 07:35:39 PM
if he waits until spring we have about a 0% chance.

But yeah, this is the first evidence that someone from KSU is recruiting that we've seen since Maymon.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 01, 2010, 08:59:13 PM
All inclusive list of uncommitted 11's with K-state mentions.

Quincy Miller  :lol:
Quinn Cook
Ben McLemore
Ryan Boatright
Angel Rodriguez
Thomas Gibson
Nino Williams


I'd be happy with any 4 of these, but is there any chance at all this class doesn't end up as Angel, Nino and some big we've never heard of?   :blank: Somebody please convince me....
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Andy on April 02, 2010, 09:29:44 AM
All inclusive list of uncommitted 11's with K-state mentions.

Quincy Miller  :lol:
Quinn Cook
Ben McLemore
Ryan Boatright
Angel Rodriguez
Thomas Gibson
Nino Williams


I'd be happy with any 4 of these, but is there any chance at all this class doesn't end up as Angel, Nino and some big we've never heard of?   :blank: Somebody please convince me....

nino is uncommited?   :confused:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on April 02, 2010, 11:34:15 PM
Meek!!!

Quote
Finally, sounds like K-State is still in good shape with Angel Rodriguez, another Tropics point guard in the 2011 class.

http://cjonline.com/interact/blog/austin_meek/2010-04-02/art_alvarez

I'd like to hire Art to roll with me for a couple days and then speak on my behalf a little bit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 02, 2010, 11:35:53 PM
Art is better at his job than I am at mine.  Or any of you are at yours.  Thats fact.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SuperG on April 03, 2010, 12:21:37 AM
Art has never lied to me before. I have no reason to not believe every word that comes out of his mouth. IMO, I think he's downplaying things a little bit regarding Freddy.  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: goldenticket on April 03, 2010, 12:33:20 AM
i recently stumbled across and article where art is talking about colon and he says


"Whoever gets him is going to be very fortunate. He's going to be a real good one."

He isn't bad now. Alvarez likened Colon's frame to a smaller version of Shaquille O'Neal and compared his abilities to those of former Detroit Pistons star Rick Mahorn.

"He's just physically strong," he said. "He's going to give you a double-double every time he steps on the court. He's a big-time intimidator."


and that didnt quite work out. but im looking forward to the bogota bully playing next year. him at 5 and ck at 4 could be really nice
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 03, 2010, 12:46:48 AM
Listen, I love the eff out of art.  He's a pro.  His job is to promote these kids.  He goes big.  Why not?  He gets some talent from time to time, you know?  We may as well get'em.  Love him. Love him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: goldenticket on April 03, 2010, 01:08:10 AM
oh i agree. just sayin
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Jackstraw on April 03, 2010, 12:41:24 PM
I have a good buddy who plays baseball at Cloud County and he can't stop talking about Freddy.  He got to watch a lot of their practices.  And he uses the words "real deal" all of the time.  Says he weighs about 275lbs and that his basketball coach loves to throw out Dexter Pittman comparisons when discussing Freddy.  But claims he is much more nimble and agile. His strongest asset according to my friend is his footwork.  He claims that if Freddy catches it down low then you might as well put two points on the board.  His back to the basket moves are just fantastic. He also has a nice mid-range jump shot that he can consistently make out to about 17ft. And yeah I know he's going against god awful competition during practice, but still it's at least encouraging to hear this kind of stuff. His weakness is his defense as of right now.  Just doesn't bring 100% effort on every play, but I'm sure that will change once he starts working with Frank.

Oh and my friend also claims that a Chicago Bulls scout has been at 3 or 4 different practices checking out the big guy.  I just hope he is more successful than our last Thunderbird from Cloud County.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on April 03, 2010, 12:45:23 PM
Good report.  Is your friend's name Art?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on April 03, 2010, 01:27:35 PM
I have a good buddy who plays baseball at Cloud County and he can't stop talking about Freddy.  He got to watch a lot of their practices.  And he uses the words "real deal" all of the time.  Says he weighs about 275lbs and that his basketball coach loves to throw out Dexter Pittman comparisons when discussing Freddy.  But claims he is much more nimble and agile. His strongest asset according to my friend is his footwork.  He claims that if Freddy catches it down low then you might as well put two points on the board.  His back to the basket moves are just fantastic. He also has a nice mid-range jump shot that he can consistently make out to about 17ft. And yeah I know he's going against god awful competition during practice, but still it's at least encouraging to hear this kind of stuff. His weakness is his defense as of right now.  Just doesn't bring 100% effort on every play, but I'm sure that will change once he starts working with Frank.

Oh and my friend also claims that a Chicago Bulls scout has been at 3 or 4 different practices checking out the big guy.  I just hope he is more successful than our last Firebird from Cloud County.

johnny williams?  :confused:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 03, 2010, 02:36:29 PM
Bet Cloud is loving Frank...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Jackstraw on April 03, 2010, 02:41:58 PM
Was talking about Draman Diarra.  Although he did play a big part in 59-55 in Lawrence, so maybe I should lay off the Frenchy.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 05, 2010, 07:49:15 AM
Cook is Nolan Smith's god brother apparently  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on April 05, 2010, 02:49:28 PM
I have a good buddy who plays baseball at Cloud County and he can't stop talking about Freddy.  He got to watch a lot of their practices.  And he uses the words "real deal" all of the time.  Says he weighs about 275lbs and that his basketball coach loves to throw out Dexter Pittman comparisons when discussing Freddy.  But claims he is much more nimble and agile. His strongest asset according to my friend is his footwork.  He claims that if Freddy catches it down low then you might as well put two points on the board.  His back to the basket moves are just fantastic. He also has a nice mid-range jump shot that he can consistently make out to about 17ft. And yeah I know he's going against god awful competition during practice, but still it's at least encouraging to hear this kind of stuff. His weakness is his defense as of right now.  Just doesn't bring 100% effort on every play, but I'm sure that will change once he starts working with Frank.

Oh and my friend also claims that a Chicago Bulls scout has been at 3 or 4 different practices checking out the big guy.  I just hope he is more successful than our last Thunderbird from Cloud County.

Why do I picture Omar Samhan every time I read a write up on Freddy?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2010, 07:24:55 AM
Mike really needs to pull some strings for us here

(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/stevedaveksu/83228965.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Arthur Carlson on April 11, 2010, 08:47:59 PM
Not even a mention from McLemore on the latest Rivals update.  So, apparently when Frank was getting contract advice from Snyder awhile back, OB slipped in some recruiting advice as well.

Quote
Ben McLemore- He isn't sure who has offered him, but McLemore has Kansas clearly at the top of his list. Behind Kansas are Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Illinois, Tennessee and Providence. McLemore's high school is closing down after this year, and he is slated to attend Oak Hill Academy next year.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1073326
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2010, 09:08:44 PM
Not even a mention from McLemore on the latest Rivals update.  So, apparently when Frank was getting contract advice from Snyder awhile back, OB slipped in some recruiting advice as well.

Quote
Ben McLemore- He isn't sure who has offered him, but McLemore has Kansas clearly at the top of his list. Behind Kansas are Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Illinois, Tennessee and Providence. McLemore's high school is closing down after this year, and he is slated to attend Oak Hill Academy next year.


http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1073326



All we ever did was call, not a surprise he wouldn't be interested.  Just like it isn't a surprise Snyder is sucking on the recruiting trail.  :blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jmlynch1 on April 11, 2010, 09:20:04 PM
Cook is Nolan Smith's god brother apparently  :dunno:
Curtis Malone is going to absolutely eff us isn't he?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on April 11, 2010, 09:52:13 PM
Cook is Nolan Smith's god brother apparently  :dunno:
Curtis Malone is going to absolutely shazbot! us isn't he?

Curtis has told us not to get our hopes up on ANY DCA kids at the present time.  Apparently there is no bad blood, just no one with any interest in us or vice versa.

$400K has officially run his course, IMO.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 11, 2010, 10:00:02 PM
cook mentions kstate without lolling or being prompted to include them!



Quote
Kentucky, North Carolina, Maryland, Georgetown, Virginia, Arizona, Washington, Kansas State, Kansas, UNLV, Villanova, North Carolina State, “and a couple more” are the programs Cook said are recruiting him.

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/04/11/nations-elite-in-pursuit-of-cook.aspx
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 1992 on April 12, 2010, 12:45:32 PM
cook mentions kstate without lolling or being prompted to include them!



Quote
Kentucky, North Carolina, Maryland, Georgetown, Virginia, Arizona, Washington, Kansas State, Kansas, UNLV, Villanova, North Carolina State, “and a couple more” are the programs Cook said are recruiting him.

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/04/11/nations-elite-in-pursuit-of-cook.aspx

So we have approx. 1/14 of a chance!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 12, 2010, 12:51:29 PM
not really
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 12, 2010, 07:07:27 PM
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database.  better than nothing.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321

suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 12, 2010, 07:57:12 PM
I'll take anyone who played at Findlay. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2010, 09:19:13 PM
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database.  better than nothing.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321

suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.


suarez was mentioned on scout!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2010, 09:20:54 PM
Also, found this in a desperate search for KSU recruiting info.

Quote
U wanna make a wager? Are you guessing or is someone telling you this? The only people that stood between MD and Cook were Roy Williams and Dalonte Hill. The latter has been removed from the equation and the former will be on Thursday. Actually, Roy knows he will not recruit Cook anymore but it will not be formally known until after the UNC banquet.

http://www.insidemdsports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32308
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 12, 2010, 09:31:49 PM
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database.  better than nothing.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321

suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.


suarez was mentioned on scout!

Suarez was listed at a HS in TN and a HS in Georgia, too.  Seems like a good fit for us.

edit:  apparently he finished in ATL area:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/04/russell-never-lost-faith-in-heritages-ability/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 12, 2010, 09:51:43 PM
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database.  better than nothing.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321

suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.


suarez was mentioned on scout!

Suarez was listed at a HS in TN and a HS in Georgia, too.  Seems like a good fit for us.

edit:  apparently he finished in ATL area:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/04/russell-never-lost-faith-in-heritages-ability/

jfc.  complete dogsh*t recruiting.  warm up the neckbrace motherfackers.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2010, 06:25:45 AM
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database.  better than nothing.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321

suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.


suarez was mentioned on scout!

Suarez was listed at a HS in TN and a HS in Georgia, too.  Seems like a good fit for us.

edit:  apparently he finished in ATL area:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/04/russell-never-lost-faith-in-heritages-ability/

jfc.  complete dogsh*t recruiting.  warm up the neckbrace motherfackers.

I'm not trying to be a tard, but I don't usually make any determinations about who we're recruiting until they've gone through the summer AAU season following their junior year.

A lot of kids, like Tony Mitchell, will make a big jump after the summer session and attending various camps.

I'm sure someone will correct me on this, but my observation has been that there will be a lot of movement in recruiting rankings, offers, etc. after the summer.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2010, 06:30:10 AM
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database.  better than nothing.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321

suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.


suarez was mentioned on scout!

Suarez was listed at a HS in TN and a HS in Georgia, too.  Seems like a good fit for us.

edit:  apparently he finished in ATL area:

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/sep/04/russell-never-lost-faith-in-heritages-ability/

jfc.  complete dogsh*t recruiting.  warm up the neckbrace motherfackers.

I'm not trying to be a tard, but I don't usually make any determinations about who we're recruiting until they've gone through the summer AAU season following their junior year.

A lot of kids, like Tony Mitchell, will make a big jump after the summer session and attending various camps.

I'm sure someone will correct me on this, but my observation has been that there will be a lot of movement in recruiting rankings, offers, etc. after the summer.

Zack is right.  It is complete dogshit recruiting.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2010, 06:48:28 AM
Zack is right.  It is complete dogshit recruiting.

Then I stand corrected.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2010, 07:10:02 AM
I will submit this into the discussion on dogsh*t recruiting...

Rivals has us listed with interest on 17 guys in 2011.  I honestly don't think that's right.

Now, I'm wondering if the recruiting is really bad, or if the reporting of it is what shows a lack of interest.

I mean outside of calling Art Alvarez, hang out at the Manhattan Classic, or follow up on a lead found on a message board what has anyone done to follow Kansas State recruiting?

Again, not trying to be a tard, but since JMart left, Kansas State recruiting seems to have gone downhill too.  Coincidence?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on April 13, 2010, 07:19:45 AM
I will submit this into the discussion on dogsh*t recruiting...

Rivals has us listed with interest on 17 guys in 2011.  I honestly don't think that's right.

Now, I'm wondering if the recruiting is really bad, or if the reporting of it is what shows a lack of interest.

I mean outside of calling Art Alvarez, hang out at the Manhattan Classic, or follow up on a lead found on a message board what has anyone done to follow Kansas State recruiting?

Again, not trying to be a tard, but since JMart left, Kansas State recruiting seems to have gone downhill too.  Coincidence?

That has already been noticed, but does not at all explain the issue.  If you read national recruiting from top prospects even the mention of KSU interest has declined over the last 2 classes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 13, 2010, 07:22:49 AM
I will submit this into the discussion on dogsh*t recruiting...

Rivals has us listed with interest on 17 guys in 2011.  I honestly don't think that's right.

Now, I'm wondering if the recruiting is really bad, or if the reporting of it is what shows a lack of interest.

I mean outside of calling Art Alvarez, hang out at the Manhattan Classic, or follow up on a lead found on a message board what has anyone done to follow Kansas State recruiting?

Again, not trying to be a tard, but since JMart left, Kansas State recruiting seems to have gone downhill too.  Coincidence?

That has already been noticed, but does not at all explain the issue.  If you read national recruiting from top prospects even the mention of KSU interest has declined over the last 2 classes.

Among curent top 150 there is next to zero interest...it's pathetic. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 13, 2010, 07:24:25 AM
I will submit this into the discussion on dogsh*t recruiting...

Rivals has us listed with interest on 17 guys in 2011.  I honestly don't think that's right.

Now, I'm wondering if the recruiting is really bad, or if the reporting of it is what shows a lack of interest.

I mean outside of calling Art Alvarez, hang out at the Manhattan Classic, or follow up on a lead found on a message board what has anyone done to follow Kansas State recruiting?

Again, not trying to be a tard, but since JMart left, Kansas State recruiting seems to have gone downhill too.  Coincidence?


i think there is a small recruiting decline effect (loss of dca connection), but there is a far greater lack-of-coverage effect.



i've run this idea past several of the kstate media, and basically had it shot down.  but i still also wonder if the staff isn't making an active effort to conceal recruiting efforts for some unknowable reason.  i know it sounds stupid, but i still wonder it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2010, 07:29:15 AM
but i still also wonder if the staff isn't making an active effort to conceal recruiting efforts for some unknowable reason.  i know it sounds stupid, but i still wonder it.

There is prolly some truth to this.  Frank is very paranoid. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2010, 07:33:47 AM
i think there is a small recruiting decline effect (loss of dca connection), but there is a far greater lack-of-coverage effect.



i've run this idea past several of the kstate media, and basically had it shot down.  but i still also wonder if the staff isn't making an active effort to conceal recruiting efforts for some unknowable reason.  i know it sounds stupid, but i still wonder it.

I've noticed the decline in DCA kids, so I'll agree that the lack of progress there is concerning.  I have noticed an increase in interest towards local kids (Spradling, McCollugah [sp?]), NYC kids, and the ever popular Florida kids.

As long as Art is in Miami, we'll have an "in" with the Tropics.  I believe that if we want him, Rodriguez will be in this class, and I'm fine with that.  I also like Nino Williams.  

I wish we were in on more 150 recruits like everyone else, but I guess I'm content to wait and see what recruiting looks like after the summer before I get really concerned about it.  Assuming Rodriguez will be in this class, we have 1-2 spots to fill (depending on the rollover from the open one this year).  So I get the 'being picky' angle too.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2010, 07:40:55 AM
KSU got a TON of mentions from top 100 types in the 08 and 09 classes, and they didn't come via J-Mart - they all came from guys like Telep and Meyer in their AAU tourney recaps.  The only mention we got from Boo Williams is Suarez, and that's really pathetic.  J-Mart has nothing to do with it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 13, 2010, 07:54:59 AM
KSU got a TON of mentions from top 100 types in the 08 and 09 classes, and they didn't come via J-Mart - they all came from guys like Telep and Meyer in their AAU tourney recaps.  The only mention we got from Boo Williams is Suarez, and that's really pathetic.  J-Mart has nothing to do with it.

yeah, that's why i wonder about the idea that the staff is covering their tracks.


i do think they are being very targeted with their '11 ships, basically just recruiting a pg (3 targets?), and probably an unknown big.  but you'd think that there would be a scattering of mentions with the big targets, even if they're only looking at a small number of possibilities for one 'ship.  and there aren't.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2010, 09:13:05 AM
maybe the staff just knows that they can win by doing things the right way.  they don't need the "mercedes" recruits to win, instead they're building a foundation the way it is meant to be built and that will last.

i'd love to see what kind of recruiting the lot of you who are being so critical could pull off.  i know this much, none of the sh*t talkers here have been to the Elite Eight before, guess what?  Frank and his staff have been.  Tia.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 13, 2010, 09:41:20 AM
maybe the staff just knows that they can win by doing things the right way.  they don't need the "mercedes" recruits to win, instead they're building a foundation the way it is meant to be built and that will last.

i'd love to see what kind of recruiting the lot of you who are being so critical could pull off.  i know this much, none of the sh*t talkers here have been to the Elite Eight before, guess what?  Frank and his staff have been.  Tia.

F'ing love clams.  Need to finish that with a "u digg?" though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2010, 09:48:59 AM
maybe the staff just knows that they can win by doing things the right way.  they don't need the "mercedes" recruits to win, instead they're building a foundation the way it is meant to be built and that will last.


That's how the SLTH talk begins...

 :ohno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2010, 09:51:16 AM
KSU got a TON of mentions from top 100 types in the 08 and 09 classes, and they didn't come via J-Mart - they all came from guys like Telep and Meyer in their AAU tourney recaps.  The only mention we got from Boo Williams is Suarez, and that's really pathetic.  J-Mart has nothing to do with it.

yeah, that's why i wonder about the idea that the staff is covering their tracks.


i do think they are being very targeted with their '11 ships, basically just recruiting a pg (3 targets?), and probably an unknown big.  but you'd think that there would be a scattering of mentions with the big targets, even if they're only looking at a small number of possibilities for one 'ship.  and there aren't.

I don't know how staffs could possibly do this.  The only way a KSU mention goes undocumented is because the kid was never asked because the kid wasn't/isn't on anyone's radar because he's not getting looks by anyone worth mentioning.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2010, 09:53:19 AM
Also, insidery grumblings here, don't expect any DCA commits anytime soon  :blindfold:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2010, 09:55:05 AM
maybe the staff just knows that they can win by doing things the right way.  they don't need the "mercedes" recruits to win, instead they're building a foundation the way it is meant to be built and that will last.

i'd love to see what kind of recruiting the lot of you who are being so critical could pull off.  i know this much, none of the sh*t talkers here have been to the Elite Eight before, guess what?  Frank and his staff have been.  Tia.

'clams might be the most hard to read(not literal) poster in this place.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 13, 2010, 09:58:25 AM
I don't know how staffs could possibly do this.  The only way a KSU mention goes undocumented is because the kid was never asked because the kid wasn't/isn't on anyone's radar because he's not getting looks by anyone worth mentioning.  

just ask the recruit not to mention.  that part is really easy.  the difficult part with the hypothesis is coming up with a motivation.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2010, 10:03:23 AM
maybe the staff just knows that they can win by doing things the right way.  they don't need the "mercedes" recruits to win, instead they're building a foundation the way it is meant to be built and that will last.

i'd love to see what kind of recruiting the lot of you who are being so critical could pull off.  i know this much, none of the sh*t talkers here have been to the Elite Eight before, guess what?  Frank and his staff have been.  Tia.

F'ing love clams.  Need to finish that with a "u digg?" though.
damn it.  i considered a u digg? but didn't go with one.  damn it. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2010, 10:10:02 AM
I don't know how staffs could possibly do this.  The only way a KSU mention goes undocumented is because the kid was never asked because the kid wasn't/isn't on anyone's radar because he's not getting looks by anyone worth mentioning.  

just ask the recruit not to mention.  that part is really easy.  the difficult part with the hypothesis is coming up with a motivation.

Frank's cuban, he saw what happened at the Bay of Pigs when information gets leaked out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 13, 2010, 10:11:20 AM
I don't know how staffs could possibly do this.  The only way a KSU mention goes undocumented is because the kid was never asked because the kid wasn't/isn't on anyone's radar because he's not getting looks by anyone worth mentioning.  

just ask the recruit not to mention.  that part is really easy.  the difficult part with the hypothesis is coming up with a motivation.

The only semi-plausible, posititve scenrio is that your both correct.  We have a commitment/near commitment from sombeody (not sucky) on nobody's radar and we are trying to keep him hidden.  Like Mitchell from last year, but we're keeping him under wraps.  I find this unlikely, but it's the only plausible hidden recruit theory.  I don't think we're recruiting a bunch of current 5-stars and telling them not to mention us.  Nothing at all to gain there.  If you say the class is Nino, elite DIR Mitchell type, and whatever PG we get out of the guys we are recruiting, you might be able to sleep a little better.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 13, 2010, 10:17:13 AM
Above theory is made a little more plausible by the idea that we seemingly aren't talking to any bigs at all.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on April 13, 2010, 10:20:02 AM
Also, insidery grumblings here, don't expect any DCA commits anytime soon  :blindfold:

Is this related to the fallout from the Beasley - Joel Bell relationship going south or other factors?  :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 13, 2010, 10:21:48 AM
The only semi-plausible, positive scenario...

i don't even consider it along the spectrum of positive or negative.  just an attempt to resolve the lack of mentions (be it from elites, near elites, near pathetics or pathetics) with the past abundance of mentions from the same staff.

i mean,  there is just very little current evidence that the kstate staff is doing any recruiting outside of kansas.  and that lack of evidence doesn't conform with either past tendencies, or what people say about the staff's commitment to recruiting.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: _33 on April 13, 2010, 10:24:48 AM
I don't know how staffs could possibly do this.  The only way a KSU mention goes undocumented is because the kid was never asked because the kid wasn't/isn't on anyone's radar because he's not getting looks by anyone worth mentioning.  

just ask the recruit not to mention.  that part is really easy.  the difficult part with the hypothesis is coming up with a motivation.

The only semi-plausible, posititve scenrio is that your both correct.  We have a commitment/near commitment from sombeody (not sucky) on nobody's radar and we are trying to keep him hidden.  Like Mitchell from last year, but we're keeping him under wraps.  I find this unlikely, but it's the only plausible hidden recruit theory.  I don't think we're recruiting a bunch of current 5-stars and telling them not to mention us.  Nothing at all to gain there.  If you say the class is Nino, elite DIR Mitchell type, and whatever PG we get out of the guys we are recruiting, you might be able to sleep a little better.

hidcommit    :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 13, 2010, 10:25:06 AM
the only plausible hidden recruit theory.

yeah, something like that or a foreign big is probably the most plausible.  but even if it was a proverbial silent commit, wouldn't there be mentions from backup plan bigs?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on April 13, 2010, 10:25:16 AM
Are there any more DCA guys that live in Florida?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2010, 10:26:11 AM
Its entirely possible the staff got tired of getting in on guys/getting mentions with guys early, then losing out on most of those guys.  Reaction could be a) keeping things more quiet or b) changed recruiting targets/strategy.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2010, 10:28:31 AM
Related; some nice #DCAssault tweeting from JamSam.

http://twitter.com/JamSam32
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 13, 2010, 10:30:11 AM
the only plausible hidden recruit theory.

yeah, something like that or a foreign big is probably the most plausible.  but even if it was a proverbial silent commit, wouldn't there be mentions from backup plan bigs?

Ahh...but you are forgetting the overconfident with recruits theorem.  Can't ignore the fundamental laws of Frank Martin recruiting.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2010, 10:39:34 AM
If only it were really true:

Quote
JamSam32    #DCAssault is the only team that if you play with them you going to KSTATE it's a rap. Pack your bags you in Manhattan, Kansas lmao
7 minutes ago via mobile web
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2010, 10:51:28 AM
Are we just in denial?  Would it be fair to say that without the influence of Beasley/Huggs, this staff has gotten Gilbert, Awaji, Clemente, Kelly, Irving, Russell, Asprilla, Sprads, Southwell, and Nino?  Kind of an underwhelming group overall.  Further, would it be fair to say that most of these guys were "late" additions/mentions?    
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2010, 10:54:42 AM
Are we just in denial?  Would it be fair to say that without the influence of Beasley/Huggs, this staff has gotten Gilbert, Awaji, Clemente, Kelly, Irving, Russell, Asprilla, Sprads, Southwell, and Nino?  Kind of an underwhelming group overall.  Further, would it be fair to say that most of these guys were "late" additions/mentions?   

At least many were "plan b" recruits.  Maybe plan c. 

I'd say Sprads/Southwell/Nino were targeted kids though, perhaps that's the route we're going to go now.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2010, 10:55:06 AM
the only plausible hidden recruit theory.

yeah, something like that or a foreign big is probably the most plausible.  but even if it was a proverbial silent commit, wouldn't there be mentions from backup plan bigs?

If they start going to the Ivory Coast to look for players, I'm done.  DONE.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 13, 2010, 10:56:36 AM
Are we just in denial?  Would it be fair to say that without the influence of Beasley/Huggs, this staff has gotten Gilbert, Awaji, Clemente, Kelly, Irving, Russell, Asprilla, Sprads, Southwell, and Nino?  Kind of an underwhelming group overall.  Further, would it be fair to say that most of these guys were "late" additions/mentions?   

At least many were "plan b" recruits.  Maybe plan c. 

I'd say Sprads/Southwell/Nino were targeted kids though, perhaps that's the route we're going to go now.

I think Southwell was a backup.  He seems like a less athletic clone of Mitchell.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2010, 10:59:40 AM
I think Southwell was a backup.  He seems like a less athletic clone of Mitchell.

Perhaps a bit, but we did sign him early and he visited in September.  Not the early, early commits like we got from Sprads/Nino, but not a late signing period pick-up either. 

I'm classifying a true "plan b"er as someone who usually signs in the late period. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2010, 11:17:01 AM
Are we just in denial?  Would it be fair to say that without the influence of Beasley/Huggs, this staff has gotten Gilbert, Awaji, Clemente, Kelly, Irving, Russell, Asprilla, Sprads, Southwell, and Nino?  Kind of an underwhelming group overall.  Further, would it be fair to say that most of these guys were "late" additions/mentions?   

At least many were "plan b" recruits.  Maybe plan c. 

I'd say Sprads/Southwell/Nino were targeted kids though, perhaps that's the route we're going to go now.

that's true, sprads/south/nino wouldn't be "late" guys and were "targeted".  which is kind of frightening, actually.  "right fit" is a slippery slope.  usually means "mediocre" and "coach'em up".
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 13, 2010, 11:19:17 AM
Are we just in denial?  Would it be fair to say that without the influence of Beasley/Huggs, this staff has gotten Gilbert, Awaji, Clemente, Kelly, Irving, Russell, Asprilla, Sprads, Southwell, and Nino?  Kind of an underwhelming group overall.  Further, would it be fair to say that most of these guys were "late" additions/mentions?   

At least many were "plan b" recruits.  Maybe plan c. 

I'd say Sprads/Southwell/Nino were targeted kids though, perhaps that's the route we're going to go now.

"coach'em up".


If that phrase begins to be associated with this staff...we are in trouble.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2010, 11:20:46 AM
that's true, sprads/south/nino wouldn't be "late" guys and were "targeted".  which is kind of frightening, actually.  "right fit" is a slippery slope.  usually means "mediocre" and "coach'em up".

True, it is a caution.  I don't think we've reached SLTH recruiting by any means, but it now looks like Top 100-150 kids rather than Top 75 kids as probably the norm, then mix in a few transfers/JUCOs.  As long as they can find more Pullens and even Samuels that way, we should be fine, but we'll see.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2010, 11:24:03 AM
Quote from: billy tubbs
ya'll had a nice little run

:frown:


(edited for effect)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 13, 2010, 11:26:43 AM
bunch a negative nancies.


not sold on southwell at all, but i think spradling and williams will be good.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 13, 2010, 11:30:04 AM
that's true, sprads/south/nino wouldn't be "late" guys and were "targeted".  which is kind of frightening, actually.  "right fit" is a slippery slope.  usually means "mediocre" and "coach'em up".

True, it is a caution.  I don't think we've reached SLTH recruiting by any means, but it now looks like Top 100-150 kids rather than Top 75 kids as probably the norm, then mix in a few transfers/JUCOs.  As long as they can find more Pullens and even Samuels that way, we should be fine, but we'll see.

that, right there, is what I'm afraid of.  It's like LHC Bill Snyder sat Frank down and said "listen, this is how you recruit youngsters...".  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2010, 11:40:01 AM
there are a lot of grumblings that the '11 class is lazy/not very intense.  I'm going to tell my self that's why our staff has decided not to recruit any '11s.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 13, 2010, 11:50:55 AM
there are a lot of grumblings that the '11 class is lazy/not very intense.  I'm going to tell my self that's why our staff has decided not to recruit any '11s.

heh.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 13, 2010, 11:51:38 AM
It's like LHC Bill Snyder sat Frank down and said "listen, this is how you recruit youngsters...".  

heh.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 13, 2010, 11:52:11 AM
there are a lot of grumblings that the '11 class is lazy/not very intense.  I'm going to tell my self that's why our staff has decided not to recruit any '11s.

saw bossi tweet something about that. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 13, 2010, 11:58:18 AM
there are a lot of grumblings that the '11 class is lazy/not very intense.  I'm going to tell my self that's why our staff has decided not to recruit any '11s.

saw bossi tweet something about that. 

So did Telep.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2010, 12:02:31 PM
there are a lot of grumblings that the '11 class is lazy/not very intense.  I'm going to tell my self that's why our staff has decided not to recruit any '11s.

saw bossi tweet something about that. 

So did Telep.

Its because all kids do these days is play Playstation 3/Xbox and text on their fancy phones.  Ridiculous.






































 :peek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 13, 2010, 01:44:03 PM
if any of you think you can recruit better than Frank and this staff then please, by all means, send Frank an email.  he will love to hear from you.  it's hilarious that this whole board was clamoring for an extension/raise for frank and his staff just a couple months ago, and now he's got it, and we got him, and all that you can do is bitch.  why don't you recruiting gurus out there outline for us real fans exactly the type of player and position, size, etc that this team needs most.  when you get done, come back here and check the latest commitments because I will guarantee that Frank and staff will have just gotten done inking that very kid to a scholarship to YOUR Kansas State University. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 13, 2010, 01:45:40 PM
if any of you think you can recruit better than Frank and this staff then please, by all means, send Frank an email.  he will love to hear from you.  it's hilarious that this whole board was clamoring for an extension/raise for frank and his staff just a couple months ago, and now he's got it, and we got him, and all that you can do is bitch.  why don't you recruiting gurus out there outline for us real fans exactly the type of player and position, size, etc that this team needs most.  when you get done, come back here and check the latest commitments because I will guarantee that Frank and staff will have just gotten done inking that very kid to a scholarship to YOUR Kansas State University. 

Our recruits should average 4.36 stars over a 3 year period (rivals.com).  I think that's the consensus.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 14, 2010, 11:02:09 PM
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 07:00:20 AM
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)

No.  it sounds like mysvisitor is on an official visit.  '11s can't go on official visits until next fall.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 15, 2010, 07:30:24 AM
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff. 

Sad. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2010, 07:40:30 AM
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff. 

Sad. 

 :confused:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 09:22:06 AM
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff. 

Sad. 

 :confused:

qft.  Is he saying there's a lot of people irrationally defending the staff here?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 15, 2010, 09:29:12 AM
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff. 

Sad. 

 :confused:

qft.  Is he saying there's a lot of people irrationally defending the staff here?  :dunno:

Don't think he understands PCs tic posts.  PC has a gift for having no decearnable difference between a sarcastic post and a serious one.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 09:53:30 AM
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff. 

Sad. 

 :confused:

qft.  Is he saying there's a lot of people irrationally defending the staff here?  :dunno:

Don't think he understands PCs tic posts.  PC has a gift for having no decearnable difference between a sarcastic post and a serious one.

I think it's pretty obvious.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 15, 2010, 10:02:09 AM
It only took one season for a bunch of people to go full on powerespect, now goemawtard with this coaching staff. 

Sad. 

 :confused:

qft.  Is he saying there's a lot of people irrationally defending the staff here?  :dunno:

Don't think he understands PCs tic posts.  PC has a gift for having no decearnable difference between a sarcastic post and a serious one.

I think it's pretty obvious.  :dunno:

Only because you know PCs not an idiot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on April 15, 2010, 11:10:09 AM
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)

Would we rather have this kid, or A-Rod-Trich, or both? 

Clems made me very fond of the latin PG, but that's a stupid reason to prefer one over the other.  I think it was just the way Clems would yell "Wall-Eee" and point at a spot on the floor that made me so high on the Latinos anyways.

Also.  http://www.kstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=400&ATCLID=204928705
Not that it adds anything we didn't know, but at least somebody is righting about recruiting. . .
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 11:18:48 AM
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)

Would we rather have this kid, or A-Rod-Trich, or both? 



Ask this question again in August.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 15, 2010, 11:28:32 AM
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)

Would we rather have this kid, or A-Rod-Trich, or both? 



Ask this question again in August.

Sounds like it could be Cats vs Cats.

And I'm counting A-Rod-Trich as pretty much ours. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 11:30:26 AM
Could this kid be our mysvisitor?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049)

Would we rather have this kid, or A-Rod-Trich, or both? 



Ask this question again in August.

Sounds like it could be Cats vs Cats.

And I'm counting A-Rod-Trich as pretty much ours. 

w/o anyone seeing ART, I'd kind of prefer Boatright to show the staff can out recruit a BCS school that can get to the postseason.  They really haven't done that for a long time.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2010, 11:44:03 AM
never seen r-tricoche play, not even highlights.  but he doesn't sound at all like clemente.  sounds like a very conventional american-style short, stocky pg.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2010, 12:00:21 PM
couple of great, nostalgia-laden pieces featuring kstate recruits and/or players that would have been kstate recruits in happier times.  parts even make you wonder about the role michigancat played in the kstate-dca rift.


http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20grab%20bag.htm
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20standouts.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on April 15, 2010, 12:14:53 PM
couple of great, nostalgia-laden pieces featuring kstate recruits and/or players that would have been kstate recruits in happier times.  parts even make you wonder about the role michigancat played in the kstate-dca rift.


http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20grab%20bag.htm
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20standouts.html

we are recruiting jarvis threat.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 12:24:16 PM
couple of great, nostalgia-laden pieces featuring kstate recruits and/or players that would have been kstate recruits in happier times.  parts even make you wonder about the role michigancat played in the kstate-dca rift.


http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20grab%20bag.htm
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20standouts.html

jesus, knowing shings is a DCA coach again makes me want to punch frank and dalonte in the nuts.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2010, 12:25:23 PM
couple of great, nostalgia-laden pieces featuring kstate recruits and/or players that would have been kstate recruits in happier times.  parts even make you wonder about the role michigancat played in the kstate-dca rift.


http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20grab%20bag.htm
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20standouts.html

jesus, knowing shings is a DCA coach again makes me want to punch frank and dalonte in the nuts.

We should propose an ongoing trade with them for Shings/'Te.  Like, every 4 years we swap Chings for Dalonte and vice versa. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2010, 12:26:22 PM
jesus, knowing shings is a DCA coach again makes me want to punch frank and dalonte in the nuts.

yeah, 'cause if they had only warned your angry-drunk ass, right?   :flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 12:26:38 PM
loved this, btw:

http://www.i95ballerz.com/oscar%20singler%20instructions.mp3
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2010, 12:32:04 PM
never seen r-tricoche play, not even highlights.  but he doesn't sound at all like clemente.  sounds like a very conventional american-style short, stocky pg.

to early for drew lavendar comparo's?   :drool:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2010, 03:25:28 PM
Quote
To all College Basketball fans..if a school gets a PG that doesn't mean they are off my list!! That article was false.

 :surprised:
:surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2010, 03:31:24 PM
Quote
To all College Basketball fans..if a school gets a PG that doesn't mean they are off my list!! That article was false.

 :surprised:
:surprised:

not good news for us.  I don't think the threat of a-r-t commiting was a hurdle to get past. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 03:32:54 PM
well I say take all 3!  :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Andy on April 15, 2010, 04:49:14 PM
couple of great, nostalgia-laden pieces featuring kstate recruits and/or players that would have been kstate recruits in happier times.  parts even make you wonder about the role michigancat played in the kstate-dca rift.


http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20grab%20bag.htm
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20big%20shots%20dca%20standouts.html

jesus, knowing shings is a DCA coach again makes me want to punch frank and dalonte in the nuts.

We should propose an ongoing trade with them for Shings/'Te.  Like, every 4 years we swap Chings for Dalonte and vice versa. 

wonder how the new rules would play into that.   really would mess with the ncaa's mind.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 15, 2010, 05:06:18 PM
never seen r-tricoche play, not even highlights.  but he doesn't sound at all like clemente.  sounds like a very conventional american-style short, stocky pg.

Have you seen boatright vids?  Looks like a tall PG on vid.  Lanky, dribbles somewhat high, and routinely dunks with both hands.  Plays nothing like a 5'10 type guard.  Cook does.  Cook actually kinda reminds me of Jake, but maybe a hair quicker.  I don't know who I'd compare Boatright to....Maybe John Wall as a 12 year old.   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
Have you seen boatright vids?

links?

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: JMart on April 15, 2010, 05:26:24 PM
Mike Rosario?

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2010, 05:48:56 PM
Mike Rosario?

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/)

man, oh man.  would be fantastic.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 05:54:03 PM
Mike Rosario?

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/)

man, oh man.  would be fantastic.

Quote
“We’re interested in Kansas State. I like him a lot,” Fontan said.

:eek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 15, 2010, 05:56:22 PM
 :love:    :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 15, 2010, 06:08:58 PM
Mike Rosario?

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/15/c-j-leslie-to-decide-shortly/)

man, oh man.  would be fantastic.

Quote
“We’re interested in Kansas State. I like him a lot,” Fontan said.

:eek:

http://scorecenter.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=41876

 :eek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 15, 2010, 06:12:13 PM
:emawboner:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 15, 2010, 06:15:46 PM
More newsy stuff on Rosario. 

http://frathousesports.com/mike-rosario-transferring-from-rutgers-basketball/ (http://frathousesports.com/mike-rosario-transferring-from-rutgers-basketball/)

Would love to rub their filthy cheating noses in it too...

http://boards.kusports.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1735884&Main=1730585 (http://boards.kusports.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1735884&Main=1730585)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2010, 06:16:56 PM
http://scorecenter.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=41876

 :eek:

his usage is ridiculous which at least in part explains his horrible efficiency.  from this, he sounds like clemente, if you told clemente that he needed to shoot every time he touched the ball.

Quote
Though he was often forced to settle for deep jumpers late in the shot clock when his team needed him to create something, Rosario displayed a great deal of versatility in his scoring repertoire. Capable of hitting shots running off of screens, creating off the bounce, and giving preference to his floater when looking to score inside of 15-feet, Rosario has a certain swagger to his offensive game. Constantly in motion, his consistently high-effort level earned him a number of easy looks around the rim last season, which he converted at a respectable rate. Unfortunately, for every good play he made to get an easy look, he often forced an equally questionable shot on his way to the rim.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mike-Rosario-5151/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 15, 2010, 06:22:31 PM
Speaking of Rosario/Clemente... (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/4522069?sort=newest&check=no&count=null&id=4522069&name=katz_andy&month=null&catId=null)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 15, 2010, 06:41:17 PM
(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r179/rickyjrk69/flag.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 15, 2010, 07:10:29 PM
his usage is ridiculous which at least in part explains his horrible efficiency.  from this, he sounds like clemente, if you told clemente that he needed to shoot every time he touched the ball.

Quote
Though he was often forced to settle for deep jumpers late in the shot clock when his team needed him to create something, Rosario displayed a great deal of versatility in his scoring repertoire. Capable of hitting shots running off of screens, creating off the bounce, and giving preference to his floater when looking to score inside of 15-feet, Rosario has a certain swagger to his offensive game. Constantly in motion, his consistently high-effort level earned him a number of easy looks around the rim last season, which he converted at a respectable rate. Unfortunately, for every good play he made to get an easy look, he often forced an equally questionable shot on his way to the rim.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Mike-Rosario-5151/

I'd take another Clemente.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 15, 2010, 07:32:17 PM
Also, Rosario has upside in the "piss off his jilted school's fans" category if he came here and succeeded.

Quote
..so glad you will have Rutgers in your heart, now take a foot up your a**. ..and have fun playing in Europe when all is said and done.

Quote
lol, rutgers will always be in his heart..BS

see ya mr. pied-piper..i sure as hell wont miss you

Quote
cancer officially removed...it is best for the program...at least there is one happy fan.

Quote
Good....we must get rid of this mess down to the very last bit.

 :love: :love: :love:

We should play at Rutgers again once he's eligible.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2010, 08:37:05 PM
Anyone know what Ros'y is doing this Friday? (edit)...........
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2010, 08:40:54 PM
Anyone know what Ros'y is doing this Friday? (edit)...........

visiting gainesville.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 15, 2010, 08:43:26 PM
Anyone know what Ros'y is doing this Friday? (edit)...........

No, but I heard a rumor Boatright will be here last weekend in April

Have you seen boatright vids?

links?



http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/ryan-boatright-1/5824d85ea8f4e4ba16405824d85ea8f4e4ba1640-1658211926910

There is pleanty out there...but this gives a decent sample


BTW jacked about Rosario
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 08:46:01 PM
No, but I heard a rumor Boatright will be here last weekend in April

:eek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 15, 2010, 08:48:30 PM
No, but I heard a rumor Boatright will be here last weekend in April

:eek:

Jayhawk invitational
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 15, 2010, 08:59:53 PM
No, but I heard a rumor Boatright will be here last weekend in April

:eek:

Jayhawk invitational

:blank:  Unless "here" is "Manhattan", then :slightlybetterthanmeh:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 15, 2010, 09:17:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related)

 :love: :crossfingers: :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on April 15, 2010, 09:32:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related)

 :love: :crossfingers: :love:

OMG. If we get Rosario I will explode. :runaway:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on April 15, 2010, 09:46:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJBe4gyfKI&feature=related)

 :love: :crossfingers: :love:

OMG. If we get Rosario I will explode. :runaway:

This seems like a match made in heaven.  Come home Mike...or come to a place that feels better than home.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SuperG on April 16, 2010, 12:22:13 AM
http://www.dailytargum.com/sports/rosario-officially-to-transfer-targets-southern-cal-1.2224162

Quote
The University termed the release “conditional,” but there was no confirmation of the Gannett New Jersey report that Rutgers would file tampering charges against Southern California in a move that would prohibit Rosario’s transfer to USC, Florida and Kansas.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on April 16, 2010, 02:29:48 AM
No, but I heard a rumor Boatright will be here last weekend in April

:eek:

Jayhawk invitational
that put a damper on my excitement... :sigh:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2010, 07:31:19 AM
Quote
Rosario could reunite with one of those high school teammates, Jio Fontan, at Southern California — another school in the running according to Rosario.
The guard only spoke with Florida so far, because his transfer did not become official until yesterday, but he did speak with Fontan.
“He told me just how good of a program it is and how beautiful it is out there,” Rosario said. “I’m going to take a look, but right now my focus is on Florida.”
:confused:

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 16, 2010, 07:31:56 AM
Quote
Rosario could reunite with one of those high school teammates, Jio Fontan, at Southern California — another school in the running according to Rosario.

 :confused:

who is the dumbass that said that?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2010, 07:32:24 AM
http://www.dailytargum.com/sports/rosario-to-visit-florida-meet-hurley-1.2225442
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 16, 2010, 07:41:47 AM
everyone is saying it's all but over for florida, btw.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2010, 07:45:59 AM
everyone is saying it's all but over for florida, btw.

explain
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2010, 07:48:20 AM
Quote
Regarding the previously reported restriction on USC, Kansas and Florida, the source indicated Rutgers has reconsidered in an effort to keep a positive relationship with St. Anthony High School of Jersey City.

http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/hoopshaven/2010/04/14/rosario-gets-conditional-transfer-release-from-ru/#more-3109
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 16, 2010, 08:12:13 AM
everyone is saying it's all but over for florida, btw.

explain

lots of people expect him to commit to florida this weekend on his visit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2010, 08:15:04 AM
everyone is saying it's all but over for florida, btw.

explain

lots of people expect him to commit to florida this weekend on his visit.

Oh, yeah, thought you meant all but over for Florida in a bad way. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 16, 2010, 08:20:08 AM
yeah, poorly worded.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2010, 08:24:10 AM
I'm just tickled that Frank called someone good and they liked what they had to say.  (well, he called the handler, at least).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 16, 2010, 08:36:53 AM
he called the handler, at least.

pretty sure this staff only directly contacts a recruit as a last gasp act of desperation.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2010, 08:40:16 AM
he called the handler, at least.

pretty sure this staff only directly contacts a recruit as a last gasp act of desperation.

NEW RECRUITING THEORY:  KSU has handlers across the country that will surprise their high profile handlees with visits to KSU this fall!  :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on April 16, 2010, 09:00:45 AM
No rosario? :(
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 16, 2010, 09:11:44 AM
NEW RECRUITING THEORY:  KSU has handlers across the country that will surprise their high profile handlees with visits to KSU this fall!  :ksu:

beautiful.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 16, 2010, 09:15:30 AM
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker?  Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere.   :dunno:  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2010, 09:24:56 AM
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker?  Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere.   :dunno: 

Beal, Rosario, and ?????
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 16, 2010, 09:26:45 AM
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker?  Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere.   :dunno: 

Beal, Rosario, and ?????

I'm assuming Rivers re-commits.  I think he will.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 16, 2010, 09:29:41 AM
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker?  Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere.   :dunno:  

beal is rumored to be a really soft commit.  most observers think rivers won't recommit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2010, 09:30:42 AM
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker?  Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere.   :dunno: 

beal is rumored to be a really soft commit.  most observers think rivers won't recommit.

I hadn't heard Beal was soft, but it sounds like Rivers is basically gone.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 16, 2010, 09:37:08 AM
you guys might be more up to date on Rivers.  Last I read, his "decommit" sounded more like he was changing to "soft verbal"  Basically saying he still loved Florida, but just wanted to be sure.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 16, 2010, 09:41:56 AM
I hadn't heard Beal was soft.

yeah, i don't know.  nothing from beal himself to indicate that, but ku, mu & ui seem to think he can be talked to.  also there was a lot when he committed about how he wanted to play with rivers.  but that never really made any sense.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: JMart on April 16, 2010, 10:15:37 AM
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker?  Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere.   :dunno: 

Beal, Rosario, and ?????

I'm assuming Rivers re-commits.  I think he will.



Oh, I don't think Rivers is going there. Scuttlebutt in Indy was that it was clearly UNC or Duke.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 16, 2010, 10:22:56 AM
Florida is going to add three elite guards to Boynton and Walker?  Surely we can scoop up some UF scraps in there somewhere.   :dunno: 

Beal, Rosario, and ?????

I'm assuming Rivers re-commits.  I think he will.



Oh, I don't think Rivers is going there. Scuttlebutt in Indy was that it was clearly UNC or Duke.

Damn.  Anything else from the Scuttlebutt?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Maccat on April 16, 2010, 10:31:45 AM
Know Doc Rivers thru some back channels, Austin is going to Duke.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 16, 2010, 10:39:46 AM
Know Doc Rivers thru some back channels, Austin is going to Duke.

 :surprised:  You should link this to the UNC & Duke boards and drive some sister school/sister rival traffic.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 16, 2010, 10:48:21 AM
Ridiculous how much insider information we can get on this board, in such a short time, on a guy we are NOT recruiting.    :blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 16, 2010, 10:51:13 AM
Ridiculous how much insider information we can get on this board, in such a short time, on a guy we are NOT recruiting.    :blank:

The Rivers to Duke scuttlebutt was all over twitter.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 16, 2010, 10:57:21 AM
Ridiculous how much insider information we can get on this board, in such a short time, on a guy we are NOT recruiting.    :blank:

The Rivers to Duke scuttlebutt was all over twitter.

not really the point Krusty.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 16, 2010, 11:06:47 AM
Ridiculous how much insider information we can get on this board, in such a short time, on a guy we are NOT recruiting.    :blank:

The Rivers to Duke scuttlebutt was all over twitter.

not really the point Krusty.
(k)rusty just pissed he didn't drop the nuke on the 11 'uiting 'ead
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 17, 2010, 01:44:13 AM
Not really us related (this thread would die if that was a requirement) but Michael Chandler de-com'd from Louisville. I think KU was after him for a bit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on April 17, 2010, 02:34:12 AM
Mike Rosario. Too good to be true. :cry:

http://tweetphoto.com/18736588
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2010, 08:11:33 AM
New mention on scout - top 150:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-DeAngelo-Harrison-93728

EDIT:  Maybe it's not a new mention:

Quote
Next season will be Harrison’s last before he departs for a Division I college. He has received scholarship offers from Kansas State, Texas A&M, Arizona State, Arkansas and Oklahoma State among others. At this point, he said, Kansas State and Texas A&M are at the top of his list.

http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/04/17/fort_bend_sun/sports/sws_-_harrison_poty.txt

Way to work hard KSU beat writers!  :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 18, 2010, 08:20:24 AM
New mention on scout - top 150:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-DeAngelo-Harrison-93728

EDIT:  Maybe it's not a new mention:

Quote
Next season will be Harrison’s last before he departs for a Division I college. He has received scholarship offers from Kansas State, Texas A&M, Arizona State, Arkansas and Oklahoma State among others. At this point, he said, Kansas State and Texas A&M are at the top of his list.

http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/04/17/fort_bend_sun/sports/sws_-_harrison_poty.txt

Way to work hard KSU beat writers!  :ksu:

nice work
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2010, 08:23:43 AM
Quote from: Dave Telep
Right now DeAngelo Harrison for Franchize is lighting up the main arena at ULR. Smooth, compact stroke. Another sniper who can go off drib

Quote from: Bossi
Harrison is a lights out spot up wing shooter!

:eek:

Sounds like we'll stop recruiting since he can shoot, is playing well at AAU tourneys, and didn't keep our recruitment a secret.  A guy like that would clearly ruin our locker room.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 18, 2010, 08:33:21 AM
I'll position for later on:  3 star  :jerk:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 09:22:10 AM
Sounds like we'll stop recruiting since he can shoot, is playing well at AAU tourneys, and didn't keep our recruitment a secret.  A guy like that would clearly ruin our locker room.

did you see the tweet about how the '11s can all shoot, even though they aren't competitive and are rough ridin' pussies?  even martin may have to take a shooter in this class.


great find, btw.  & lol @ our pathetic excuses for beat writers.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 09:38:53 AM
Quote from: telep teaser
18 Apr 2010 ... DeAngelo Harrison, SG, Franchize AS: Count us as fans. He dropped 27 first half points in the game we caught. He's not the ideal size for a ...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2010, 09:42:20 AM
Quote from: telep teaser
18 Apr 2010 ... DeAngelo Harrison, SG, Franchize AS: Count us as fans. He dropped 27 first half points in the game we caught. He's not the ideal size for a ...

Are they going to go on to say for a 3?  Seems like he's decent sized for a 2 at 6'3"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2010, 09:43:24 AM
Sounds like we'll stop recruiting since he can shoot, is playing well at AAU tourneys, and didn't keep our recruitment a secret.  A guy like that would clearly ruin our locker room.

did you see the tweet about how the '11s can all shoot, even though they aren't competitive and are fracking pussies?  even martin may have to take a shooter in this class.


yes.  Frank may accidentally have an elite(r) offense in 11-12.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2010, 09:48:24 AM
<--------- Concerned that with the 'potential' signing of Myles we will not have a scholarship for a big next year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on April 18, 2010, 10:41:22 AM
<--------- Concerned that with the 'potential' signing of Myles we will not have a scholarship for a big next year.

Then we Branderson Nick Russell.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2010, 10:44:11 AM
<--------- Concerned that with the 'potential' signing of Myles we will not have a scholarship for a big next year.

Then we Branderson Nick Russell.

Better do it fast before we use that Brandersoned scholarship on a 6'7" JUCO PF in the late signing period.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 18, 2010, 10:54:29 AM
<--------- Concerned that with the 'potential' signing of Myles we will not have a scholarship for a big next year.

Then we Branderson Nick Russell.

Better do it fast before we use that Brandersoned scholarship on a 6'7" JUCO PF in the late signing period.

A. You can oversign.  You kick the players off after you sign the replacements, not before.


B. We don't appear to be recuiting any bigs now anyway, which is more of a concern than having room for one. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2010, 10:59:11 AM
<--------- Concerned that with the 'potential' signing of Myles we will not have a scholarship for a big next year.

Then we Branderson Nick Russell.

Better do it fast before we use that Brandersoned scholarship on a 6'7" JUCO PF in the late signing period.

A. You can oversign.  You kick the players off after you sign the replacements, not before.


B. We don't appear to be recuiting any bigs now anyway, which is more of a concern than having room for one. 

A. True, but the powerespect in me hates doing that.  It's kind of embarrassing.

B. Scares the crap out of me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2010, 11:06:49 AM
A. True, but the powerespect in me hates doing that.  It's kind of embarrassing.

Frank's recruiting since Beasley's first practice has been far more embarrassing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: JMart on April 18, 2010, 11:18:17 AM
I'll get the scoop on this kid.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html)

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2010, 01:21:59 PM
I'll get the scoop on this kid.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html)



Still the best in the biz
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2010, 01:29:32 PM
I'll get the scoop on this kid.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/hso/6963974.html)



Still the best in the biz

Does _FAN pay him with t-shirt proceeds?

If not, I would like to personally thank JMart for his charity.

 :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 02:04:31 PM
B. We don't appear to be recuiting any bigs now anyway, which is more of a concern than having room for one. 

so the assumption has always been a big, a pg and williams for 2011.  does harrison indicate maybe that they're looking at 3 perimeter players, no bigs?  do they think of him as a combo point?  do they think of williams as a big?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 18, 2010, 02:15:58 PM
B. We don't appear to be recuiting any bigs now anyway, which is more of a concern than having room for one. 

so the assumption has always been a big, a pg and williams for 2011.  does harrison indicate maybe that they're looking at 3 perimeter players, no bigs?  do they think of him as a combo point?  do they think of williams as a big?

Is Williams still growing?  He's listed at 6'5", but does that mean he could get to 6'6" or 6'7".

I'm not a doctor, but this could be a factor.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: JMart on April 18, 2010, 02:43:07 PM
Good stuff here from Sam Khan, who is the Chronicle's lead high school writer - and he's very good:

Quote
Terrific offensive talent. He can score inside and out, run the floor, handle the ball and create his own quality shot in the half court.

Good court vision, seems to see the floor well in transition and in the half court.

Decent rebounder. Very good passer.

Any time I've watched him he hasn't really stood out to me defensively, but he can make plays on the ball (swiping it or playing passing lanes).

Good clutch player too.

Biggest thing to keep an eye on is off the court. He missed a good chunk of his sophomore season because of grade issues. He didn't miss any time this year, so perhaps he has fixed that. I'm not real sure if it'll be an issue going forward.

He's always been quiet any time I've been around him so I'm not sure what kind of attitude he has. He seems to be a good floor leader but I don't know that he's a leader in the true sense of the word. I'm thinking this is the year that we'll find out, because he'll be one of few holdovers on a roster that's going to have a ton of turnover.

He has experience on his side - he has been on varsity since he was a freshman and got significant minutes off the bench that year when Dulles went to the state championship game. So he has logged a lot of meaningful minutes when he has been on the court. If Dulles would have gone further in the playoffs, he would have been on my second team probably. They lost in the second round to the eventual state champs. He'll be a surefire first-team all-city pick next preseason for me. He's without question one of the top talents in this area in general, and especially in the Class of 2011. He was an all-state selection this year.

And then this just popped in my in-box from Sam:

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I just heard from the local guy who's deep into AAU coverage that he had a huge game today (41 points, 12 rebounds, five assists) in the semifinals of the Real Deal on the Hill in Arkansas, which is supposed a pretty high quality tournament. Chief might know this better than I though, where it ranks on the totem pole.

His team is playing in the championship game later today.

Another guy I work with happens to run an AAU team here in Houston. His name is Chief, and this is what he had to say:

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One of the best guards in the state. I'm pretty sure he's left handed. Plays at Dulles HS in Fort Bend. About 6-3. Can get to the rack and fill it up just as easily.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on April 18, 2010, 02:47:45 PM
are we recruiting him?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2010, 03:02:20 PM
Awesome, thanks Jeff.  Any of those guys know much about his recruitment? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 03:04:29 PM
Hope that helps.

great stuff.


as a word of contrarianism, telep's quote right before harrison's big game in arkansas:

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The ball has been BAD, the play worse and the energy has been sucked out of me. Hope Franchize vs Playground delivers
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: JMart on April 18, 2010, 03:06:55 PM
Have another message in on that, SD. I'll post a response when I can.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Maccat on April 18, 2010, 03:11:41 PM
See KSU beatwritter that how you do it.  JMart makes it look easy.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on April 18, 2010, 03:16:36 PM
I don't understand how meek, manbeck, and smelly are getting paid actual money right now.  Seems journalists should be on commission or something.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 03:40:31 PM
I don't understand how meek, manbeck, and smelly are getting paid actual money right now.  Seems journalists should be on commission or something.

it's far easier to cover kstate recruiting from houston on a volunteer basis.  it's not really an apples to apples comparison for the locals.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2010, 04:58:34 PM
Good stuff here from Sam Khan, who is the Chronicle's lead high school writer - and he's very good:

Quote
Terrific offensive talent. He can score inside and out, run the floor, handle the ball and create his own quality shot in the half court.

Good court vision, seems to see the floor well in transition and in the half court.

Decent rebounder. Very good passer.

Any time I've watched him he hasn't really stood out to me defensively, but he can make plays on the ball (swiping it or playing passing lanes).

Good clutch player too.

Biggest thing to keep an eye on is off the court. He missed a good chunk of his sophomore season because of grade issues. He didn't miss any time this year, so perhaps he has fixed that. I'm not real sure if it'll be an issue going forward.

He's always been quiet any time I've been around him so I'm not sure what kind of attitude he has. He seems to be a good floor leader but I don't know that he's a leader in the true sense of the word. I'm thinking this is the year that we'll find out, because he'll be one of few holdovers on a roster that's going to have a ton of turnover.

He has experience on his side - he has been on varsity since he was a freshman and got significant minutes off the bench that year when Dulles went to the state championship game. So he has logged a lot of meaningful minutes when he has been on the court. If Dulles would have gone further in the playoffs, he would have been on my second team probably. They lost in the second round to the eventual state champs. He'll be a surefire first-team all-city pick next preseason for me. He's without question one of the top talents in this area in general, and especially in the Class of 2011. He was an all-state selection this year.

And then this just popped in my in-box from Sam:

Quote
I just heard from the local guy who's deep into AAU coverage that he had a huge game today (41 points, 12 rebounds, five assists) in the semifinals of the Real Deal on the Hill in Arkansas, which is supposed a pretty high quality tournament. Chief might know this better than I though, where it ranks on the totem pole.

His team is playing in the championship game later today.

Another guy I work with happens to run an AAU team here in Houston. His name is Chief, and this is what he had to say:

Quote
One of the best guards in the state. I'm pretty sure he's left handed. Plays at Dulles HS in Fort Bend. About 6-3. Can get to the rack and fill it up just as easily.

Hope that helps.

WONDERFUL work.  Ironic that he probably played his way out of KSU's hands the same day KSU fans discovered his interest in KSU.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 18, 2010, 05:20:15 PM
we're suddenly listed with this guy:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Wayne-Martin-102054

not sure why.   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 05:35:43 PM
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1075877

some more good stuff here.  i'm floored that our beat writers never let us know that kstate had offered jones.

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DeAngelo Harrison (Franchize All-Starz 2011)- Harrison absolutely filled it up from deep Sunday morning. He hit three-pointers of the dribble and coming off screens, while also spending a lot of time running the point. Harrison is a high level shooter as a high major prospect.

And evidently Harrison was even better when Rivals.com wasn't watching. In a 10 point loss to the Dallas Mustangs in the championship game, Harrison went for 47 points.

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Isiah Jones (Franchize-The Life 2011)- Speaking of high level shooters, Jones was just as impressive from deep as Harrison. A former 2010 prospect out of Chicago. Jones is now at Christian Life Academy as a 2011 prospect....  Isiah Jones did have offers as a 2010 prospect from DePaul, Kansas State, Indiana State and Illinois State. Now that he is reclassifying at Christian Life Academy his recruitment is starting over. He lists those four schools along with Indiana and Louisiana Tech.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 05:41:20 PM
we're suddenly listed with this guy:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Wayne-Martin-102054

not sure why.   :dunno:

who cares, count it as a mention and go.

 :cheese:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 05:58:25 PM
Quote
Corey Hilliard is getting to the rim at well for KC Pump N Run 17's, up 9 on Dream Vision near halftime.

hilliard (2011 from raytown) visited kstate this season.  has been linked to kstate by such notable sites such as: scout, shockernet, ksufans.com and msubearnation.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 18, 2010, 05:59:43 PM
Franchize claims John Henson played for them...KSU was one of Henson's first offers.  Agree on the wtf on Jones, but not really surprised.

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Corey Hilliard is getting to the rim at well for KC Pump N Run 17's, up 9 on Dream Vision near halftime.

hilliard (2011 from raytown) visited kstate this season.  has been linked to kstate by such notable sites such as: scout, shockernet, ksufans.com and msubearnation.

lol
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 06:11:21 PM
incredible nicname.  assuming it's the same individual.

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2010 guard Isaiah “Hoopy” Jones is still at Mounds Meridian after contrary reports throughout the summer that he was transferring to Carbondale.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 18, 2010, 06:58:36 PM
Random non-paid posters (I'm counting Jeff in this) on a free-non-media-affiliated message board are KSU's primary source of basketball recruiting news.  Is this weird or does this happen  for other major conference fan bases?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: JMart on April 18, 2010, 07:19:02 PM
Good stuff here from Sam Khan, who is the Chronicle's lead high school writer - and he's very good:

Quote
Terrific offensive talent. He can score inside and out, run the floor, handle the ball and create his own quality shot in the half court.

Good court vision, seems to see the floor well in transition and in the half court.

Decent rebounder. Very good passer.

Any time I've watched him he hasn't really stood out to me defensively, but he can make plays on the ball (swiping it or playing passing lanes).

Good clutch player too.

Biggest thing to keep an eye on is off the court. He missed a good chunk of his sophomore season because of grade issues. He didn't miss any time this year, so perhaps he has fixed that. I'm not real sure if it'll be an issue going forward.

He's always been quiet any time I've been around him so I'm not sure what kind of attitude he has. He seems to be a good floor leader but I don't know that he's a leader in the true sense of the word. I'm thinking this is the year that we'll find out, because he'll be one of few holdovers on a roster that's going to have a ton of turnover.

He has experience on his side - he has been on varsity since he was a freshman and got significant minutes off the bench that year when Dulles went to the state championship game. So he has logged a lot of meaningful minutes when he has been on the court. If Dulles would have gone further in the playoffs, he would have been on my second team probably. They lost in the second round to the eventual state champs. He'll be a surefire first-team all-city pick next preseason for me. He's without question one of the top talents in this area in general, and especially in the Class of 2011. He was an all-state selection this year.

And then this just popped in my in-box from Sam:

Quote
I just heard from the local guy who's deep into AAU coverage that he had a huge game today (41 points, 12 rebounds, five assists) in the semifinals of the Real Deal on the Hill in Arkansas, which is supposed a pretty high quality tournament. Chief might know this better than I though, where it ranks on the totem pole.

His team is playing in the championship game later today.

Another guy I work with happens to run an AAU team here in Houston. His name is Chief, and this is what he had to say:

Quote
One of the best guards in the state. I'm pretty sure he's left handed. Plays at Dulles HS in Fort Bend. About 6-3. Can get to the rack and fill it up just as easily.

Hope that helps.

WONDERFUL work.  Ironic that he probably played his way out of KSU's hands the same day KSU fans discovered his interest in KSU.

As usual, Michigancat on point... From Sam Khan:

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I'm told he's "wide open."

As a side note, he's supposed to be picking up another offer soon. Marquette will be jumping into the fray with an offer as early as tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 18, 2010, 09:51:49 PM
Random non-paid posters (I'm counting Jeff in this) on a free-non-media-affiliated message board are KSU's primary source of basketball recruiting news.  Is this weird or does this happen  for other major conference fan bases?

strangely, i think it's actually the norm.

nu - all recruiting news broken by NE newspapers or by other fanbases.
isu - most news broken by mcdermott's nephew or a 16 year poster in eastern iowa, both on cyfan
mu - i think it's about 50:50 between dearmond's kid and tigerboard posters.  regardless, nothing is believed until crazylegs confirms or denies.
ku - mascott gets at least as many SCOOPS as scout and rivals combined.
wsu - 95% tropshox.
ou - almost all ouhoops mods and posters.

 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: K-ST8ED on April 18, 2010, 09:56:53 PM
Random non-paid posters (I'm counting Jeff in this) on a free-non-media-affiliated message board are KSU's primary source of basketball recruiting news.  Is this weird or does this happen  for other major conference fan bases?

Yeah, these are great. I just started reading these recruiting threads last week, and you cant even get close to this coverage anywhere else, even if you are paying for it. Keep up the good work doods! :bball: :kstatriot:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 19, 2010, 08:19:54 AM

As usual, Michigancat on point... From Sam Khan:

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I'm told he's "wide open."

As a side note, he's supposed to be picking up another offer soon. Marquette will be jumping into the fray with an offer as early as tomorrow.

It's like a nice warm blanket.  But kind of hilarious that the "keep everything under wraps" theory that sys pushed might have some truth and even more hilarious that this staff thinks in this environment that they're going to get a kid worth a sh*t that no one knows about.  If the kid is good and blows up people are going to notice and we're going to get put in the back of the bus.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: JMart on April 19, 2010, 10:50:22 AM
So, read this:

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http://www.rcssports.com/

And the plot thickens - his older brother, Dre, just completed his first season at San Jacinto. He's a point guard, and he led Dulles to the state title game as a junior. My dude Chief says he's nice as hell, and who wouldn't want to play at the collegiate level with their little brother? This is all Figgs, by the way - he's junior colleges and Texas, I think.

This is what his list looked like out of high school:

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http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Dre-Harrison-77052;_ylt=AlDr9g7T3KgZYBM8JOEWU1nfS5B4?colleges=show#college_choices

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 19, 2010, 10:53:12 AM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 19, 2010, 11:07:08 AM
Thanks Jeff.  Wonder if Dre is Juevol level of prospect...  :dunno:

somewhat off topic, but somewhat related:  Love the name "wanna bail?" or however its actually spelled. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 19, 2010, 11:31:25 AM
dre harrison was a nonqualifier, no?  so he's an '11 too.


deangelo harrison looks like an impressive player, and would be a nice get.  don't think he's good enough to take his less talented, same size, same position brother in a class with 3 ships.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 19, 2010, 01:12:03 PM
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?highlight=wichita&CID=1076021

a few vaguely kstate items.  think it's free.


on thomas, he used to be listed as a 2012.  can't find anything to connect him to kstate.  the hawks seem like a pretty amateur organization, but perhaps are coming up in the ranks.

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Hilliard is the point guard who runs the show, and gets things done. The Dream Vision guards had absolutely no chance to stop Hilliard from getting into the lane and either scoring or dishing to a teammate such as Kirk. Hilliard finished the game with 11 points, and simply controlled every aspect of the action....  Corey Hilliard has an offer from Missouri State and interest from Kansas State, Minnesota, Arizona State, and Missouri.


Though the KC Pump N Run 15's fell in the semi-finals, Conner Frankamp had nothing to be ashamed of. The point guard has a lot of flair to his game, and the handle he possesses is at a very high level. Just when defenders play off of him in an attempt to keep him in front, Frankamp showed the ability to knock in a deep jumper. Overall he looks the part of a potential high-major guard down the road.


Get ready to hear the name Chris Thomas. The Colorado native now attends school at Princeton Day Academy in Bowie, Maryland. The little known 6-foot-4 wing asserted himself as one of the premier players in his class with his play over the weekend. Even though his Colorado Hawks team was completely outmanned by Indiana Elite at the 16 and under level, Thomas is a 2013 star who made an impact and even kept the game relatively close for a long period of time.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
w
http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?highlight=wichita&CID=1076021

a few vaguely kstate items.  think it's free.


on thomas, he used to be listed as a 2012.  can't find anything to connect him to kstate.  the hawks seem like a pretty amateur organization, but perhaps are coming up in the ranks.

Quote
Hilliard is the point guard who runs the show, and gets things done. The Dream Vision guards had absolutely no chance to stop Hilliard from getting into the lane and either scoring or dishing to a teammate such as Kirk. Hilliard finished the game with 11 points, and simply controlled every aspect of the action....  Corey Hilliard has an offer from Missouri State and interest from Kansas State, Minnesota, Arizona State, and Missouri.


Though the KC Pump N Run 15's fell in the semi-finals, Conner Frankamp had nothing to be ashamed of. The point guard has a lot of flair to his game, and the handle he possesses is at a very high level. Just when defenders play off of him in an attempt to keep him in front, Frankamp showed the ability to knock in a deep jumper. Overall he looks the part of a potential high-major guard down the road.


Get ready to hear the name Chris Thomas. The Colorado native now attends school at Princeton Day Academy in Bowie, Maryland. The little known 6-foot-4 wing asserted himself as one of the premier players in his class with his play over the weekend. Even though his Colorado Hawks team was completely outmanned by Indiana Elite at the 16 and under level, Thomas is a 2013 star who made an impact and even kept the game relatively close for a long period of time.

I pretty much assume all 13's (or even 12's) that we're hearing about now are guys we have now shot at unless they are local guys KU doesn't want.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 19, 2010, 01:17:34 PM
I pretty much assume all 13's (or even 12's) that we're hearing about now are guys we have no shot at unless they are local guys KU doesn't want.

:concerned:  that doesn't seem like you...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 19, 2010, 01:54:50 PM
It's like a nice warm blanket.  But kind of hilarious that the "keep everything under wraps" theory that sys pushed might have some truth and even more hilarious that this staff thinks in this environment that they're going to get a kid worth a sh*t that no one knows about.  If the kid is good and blows up people are going to notice and we're going to get put in the back of the bus.

the only way it makes sense is to keep programs like KU's (and prolly Baylor's) from trying to blow up your recruiting.  if the rumors about Walker, Sutton and Little's recruitment are true then it's a smart move.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2010, 02:02:45 PM
I pretty much assume all 13's (or even 12's) that we're hearing about now are guys we have no shot at unless they are local guys KU doesn't want.

:concerned:  that doesn't seem like you...

It's a nice warm blanket.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 19, 2010, 02:46:53 PM
It's like a nice warm blanket.  But kind of hilarious that the "keep everything under wraps" theory that sys pushed might have some truth and even more hilarious that this staff thinks in this environment that they're going to get a kid worth a sh*t that no one knows about.  If the kid is good and blows up people are going to notice and we're going to get put in the back of the bus.

the only way it makes sense is to keep programs like KU's (and prolly Baylor's) from trying to blow up your recruiting.  if the rumors about Walker, Sutton and Little's recruitment are true then it's a smart move.

yeah, but none of those kids were unknown at all.  I guess what I'm saying is that ku isn't blowing up sprads or southwell or nino or sprilla and that's prolly because they either aren't good (sprads, southwell, nino) or because we did a good job of recruiting by using our connections (sprilla).  We lost Mitchell to MU (and KU didn't blow that one up) because we did a sh*tty job recruiting him.  We lost LatWill because he couldn't qualify and did a sh*tty job recruiting him.  We lost Little because we did a sh*tty job of recruiting him.  We've gotten better than or equal to kids as KU because we recruited well enough to get them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 19, 2010, 03:06:13 PM
the 2nd part is in response to if he could play pg in the big 12.

Quote from: soonerdaze on ouhoops
Just heard that DeAngelo Harrison is scheduled to be visited this week by an undisclosed Big Ten coach, who is rumored to be prepared to offer him. Word is, he was set to offer him before he set a scoring record and led his team to the 17u championship.


Anything is possible for him because he has real skill and has good athleticism. Question for me is, can he shun all the "rec-center mentality" that he shows in the summer, and really learn the PG position? Cannot properly evaluate that from where I or any other observer sits.

Some can and some can't. The rec centers in major metropolitan areas around this country are littered with stellar ball players who simply couldn't find a way to compete at a high level of organized ball. If I had to guess, he'll probably end up an undersized 2 at the next level unless he plays in a dribble-weave, motion-type offensive system.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on April 19, 2010, 03:13:00 PM
if the rumors about Walker, Sutton and Little's recruitment are true then it's a smart move.

I remember how the Sutton and Little deals went down but not what happened with Walker?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 19, 2010, 04:23:40 PM
dre harrison was a nonqualifier, no?  so he's an '11 too.


deangelo harrison looks like an impressive player, and would be a nice get.  don't think he's good enough to take his less talented, same size, same position brother in a class with 3 ships.

Depends on the situation (how despirate are we, and how loaded are we with mediocre guards)  Trading two Junior mediocre (IE myles and irving) guards for one junior mediocre and a good freshman could make some sense.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2010, 07:10:24 PM
another player mentioned on scout, I guess we were already in his rivals profile:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/texas/basketball/recruiting/player-Luke-Mergerson-93744
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 19, 2010, 07:12:27 PM
B. We don't appear to be recuiting any bigs now anyway, which is more of a concern than having room for one. 

so the assumption has always been a big, a pg and williams for 2011.  does harrison indicate maybe that they're looking at 3 perimeter players, no bigs?  do they think of him as a combo point?  do they think of williams as a big?

Missed this earlier.  I've heard some grumblings from people that think Nino is still growing. I  don't really believe it considering his age, but he would be an elite pf if he grows a couple of inches.  Remember the old wet dream "what if Hoskins was 6'8"?" Same thing would apply to Nino.  I don't know how they could get away with not brining in a young big...there has to be somebody out there if not Nino.  That said, I think they could still sign three perimeter guys and a big.  Somebody is going to leave...particularly if we bring in Myles or a soph. transfer like Shipman.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 19, 2010, 08:54:57 PM
more harrison:

Quote
DeAngelo Harrison  Franchize All-Stars, 2011 shooting guard

Yes, Harrison probably isn't a point guard. And yes, he probably is a little undersized as a high-major shooting guard prospect. Regardless, this combo guard might just be the best shooter in the 2011 class - at least it looked that way in Little Rock. Harrison knocked down five 3-pointers in a row in the semifinals and then scored 47 points in the final.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076292
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on April 19, 2010, 09:50:16 PM
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2010, 09:56:47 PM
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.

Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS.  He's also 3" shorter.  This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).

Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 19, 2010, 10:03:05 PM
I'm guessing Harrison goes to OSU or A&M.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on April 19, 2010, 10:11:41 PM
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.

Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS.  He's also 3" shorter.  This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).

Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.

That is crazy. I figured Pullen would be considered a good shooter especially after he broke Provisos record for 3 pointers made in a game
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 19, 2010, 10:34:20 PM
pullen was always thought of as a true pg.


harrison sounds like chalmers style wise.  bj holmes, warren, v. ward, richardson and denmon might be other good comparos.  really, there's been a ton of guys like that running around in the big 12 lately.  everyone wants a shoot-first ballhander as a combo.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 19, 2010, 10:35:19 PM
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.

Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS.  He's also 3" shorter.  This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).

Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.

That is crazy. I figured Pullen would be considered a good shooter especially after he broke Provisos record for 3 pointers made in a game

Yeah, not much better than average out of HS.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on April 20, 2010, 07:38:23 AM
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.

Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS.  He's also 3" shorter.  This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).

Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.

That is crazy. I figured Pullen would be considered a good shooter especially after he broke Provisos record for 3 pointers made in a game

Streaky is a better definition for Pullen's shooting.  Glad he's finally at a place where it is getting more consistently good. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CrushNasty on April 21, 2010, 01:37:25 PM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 21, 2010, 01:55:02 PM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

If we were lucky enough to get a visit (we won't be) we better f'ing have that Beasley jersey up in the rafters by the time he gets here  :curse:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 21, 2010, 04:32:10 PM
Over/under that the class is at least this good?

PG Boatright 4-star #69
SG Harrison 3-star #118
SF Williams 3-star UR
PF Gipson 3-star #111


Right now thinking under :cry: , but trying to be optimistic.  (this is considerably worse than i was expecting a year ago)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 21, 2010, 04:39:23 PM
PG Boatright 4-star #69
SG Harrison 3-star #118
SF Williams 3-star UR
PF Gipson 3-star #111


it'll be better, but just 3 players.  if there's a fourth, whoever the staff brings in to replace the transfer in the spring will suck, and shouldn't be included with the rest of the class.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OregonSmock on April 21, 2010, 05:09:34 PM
Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.

Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS.  He's also 3" shorter.  This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).

Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.




Sounds a lot like Royce Woolridge, but Woolridge is simply "garbage" according to you because of his 3-star status.  Hypocrite.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 21, 2010, 05:09:50 PM
Over/under that the class is at least this good?

PG Boatright 4-star #69
SG Harrison 3-star #118
SF Williams 3-star UR
PF Gipson 3-star #111


Right now thinking under :cry: , but trying to be optimistic.  (this is considerably worse than i was expecting a year ago)

I only want those kids if they're the right "fit".
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 21, 2010, 05:26:46 PM
PG Boatright 4-star #69
SG Harrison 3-star #118
SF Williams 3-star UR
PF Gipson 3-star #111


it'll be better, but just 3 players. 

:eek:

Harrison sounds a lot like Pullen.

Pullen was never regarded as anything better than an average shooter in HS.  He's also 3" shorter.  This guy sounds way better (at least at the same point in their careers).

Harrison sounds like he would be an awesome get, though.




Sounds a lot like Royce Woolridge, but Woolridge is simply "garbage" according to you because of his 3-star status.  Hypocrite.

No, Harrison will be ranked way higher than he is now.  wooldridge never climbed the rankings as predicted by many idiots.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Winters on April 21, 2010, 08:24:45 PM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

If we were lucky enough to get a visit (we won't be) we better f'ing have that Beasley jersey up in the rafters by the time he gets here  :curse:

YES!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 21, 2010, 09:37:49 PM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 22, 2010, 07:43:30 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?  Not that Cal was ever going to fall far enough down his list to actually offer Boatright.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 22, 2010, 07:53:41 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?  Not that Cal was ever going to fall far enough down his list to actually offer Boatright.

Would we take Rodriguez-Trioche and Boatright?  Can we trade one for a quality big?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 22, 2010, 08:38:07 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?  Not that Cal was ever going to fall far enough down his list to actually offer Boatright.

Would we take Rodriguez-Trioche and Boatright?  Can we trade one for a quality big?

I think we oversign.  Taking Myles guarenteed at least one guard will be leaving after the season.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2010, 08:41:49 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?  Not that Cal was ever going to fall far enough down his list to actually offer Boatright.

Would we take Rodriguez-Trioche and Boatright?  Can we trade one for a quality big?

jfc, SD, don't be so picky.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2010, 08:54:11 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?

I don't think so.  Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on April 22, 2010, 09:27:44 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?

I don't think so.  Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.

K-State beat out FSU for Russell, if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on April 22, 2010, 09:34:29 AM
Also, in checking Rivals to confirm Nick Russell thing, noticed Nino has been moved to '11.  Anyone want to take a guess as to which class he actually ends up in?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2010, 09:37:19 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?

I don't think so.  Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.

K-State beat out FSU for Russell, if I remember correctly.

I don't think you do.  And Nino has always been 11, until recently finding out he may have to move it up.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2010, 09:43:21 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?

I don't think so.  Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.


I was going to pose this question when Maple Leaf committed but was too scared.  IIRC, Wake and Illinois wanted Sutton.  But, other than that (and a possible mention on Russell by UCLA? and whispers that Georgetown might want Samuels) I think this might be an accurate statement.  Coincidentally, Maple Leaf might be the one guy we did (OU?).  Basically, this staff was good at sealing the deal with DCA kids that were directly connected to 'Te or Beasley or kids that no one (high-majors) knew about or wanted or had room for. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2010, 09:43:40 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?

I don't think so.  Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.

K-State beat out FSU for Russell, if I remember correctly.

While I realize they aren't always accurate, these are the notables we supposedly beat out (offers) in our last couple of classes:

Southwell: Marquette, Providence, South Carolina, St John's, S Carolina, Xavier.
Sprads: UNLV
Asprilla: Marquette, Memphis, Miami FL
Myles: OU, NU, GW

JHR: Rhode Island, St Johns, (visited both), DePaul, Kentucky, Missouri, Seton Hall, UNLV, Xavier.
Irving: Georgia, Creighton, S Florida, St. Louis (bunch of other mid/low majors).
Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.

Judge and McGruds a bunch of high majors, but DCA.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2010, 09:51:40 AM
Cook tweeted that his first two visits will be UK and 'Zona.  :frown: Not feeling good.

sounds like teague to uk.  unexpected boost to kstate's slim-to-none shot at cook.

Does this not also make K-State the fav for Boatright?

I don't think so.  Since VaTech and FSU are interested, that would require us to beat out a high-major team that can get to the postseason, something the staff has never done for anyone outside of DCA.

K-State beat out FSU for Russell, if I remember correctly.

While I realize they aren't always accurate, these are the notables we supposedly beat out (offers) in our last couple of classes:

Southwell: Marquette, Providence, South Carolina, St John's, S Carolina, Xavier.
Sprads: UNLV
Asprilla: Marquette, Memphis,  Miami FL
Myles: OU, NU, GW

JHR: Rhode Island, St Johns, (visited both), DePaul, Kentucky, Missouri, Seton Hall, UNLV, Xavier.
Irving: Georgia, Creighton, S Florida, St. Louis (bunch of other mid/low majors).
Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.

Judge and McGruds a bunch of high majors, but DCA.

So we beat out Marquette (who throws out offers BCG-style) for Southwell.  (JHR's offers were all for the 08 class).

:blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: weird roberts foam finger on April 22, 2010, 09:53:37 AM
I don't think you do.

Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.

 :users:

And Nino has always been 11, until recently finding out he may have to move it up.

Ah, got it turned around.

 :bang:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2010, 09:59:46 AM
I don't think you do.

Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.

 :users:

I question that, along w/ UCLA and OU offers.  You don't get legit offers from UCLA, OU, and FSU and visit SMU, Tech, and Iowa.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2010, 10:03:54 AM
I don't think you do.

Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.

 :users:

I question that, along w/ UCLA and OU offers.  You don't get legit offers from UCLA, OU, and FSU and visit SMU, Tech, and Iowa.


Quote
Forsett said Russell isn’t waiting to see what shakes out with UCLA. That’s not to say he isn’t interested, but his heart isn’t set on a visit to Cali. UCLA has already come in for an in-home visit. Speaking of which, K-State almost brought the whole staff on its visit. Matt Figger, the lead guy, and Dalonte Hill were there, and Frank Martin also tagged along. “It was a great visit,” he said.

Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/10/01/nick-russell/#ixzz0lqEjTpsJ
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2010, 10:26:02 AM
I don't think you do.

Russell: Iowa, Texas Tech, SMU (visited all 3), Fla St, OU, UCLA.

 :users:

I question that, along w/ UCLA and OU offers.  You don't get legit offers from UCLA, OU, and FSU and visit SMU, Tech, and Iowa.


Quote
Forsett said Russell isn’t waiting to see what shakes out with UCLA. That’s not to say he isn’t interested, but his heart isn’t set on a visit to Cali. UCLA has already come in for an in-home visit. Speaking of which, K-State almost brought the whole staff on its visit. Matt Figger, the lead guy, and Dalonte Hill were there, and Frank Martin also tagged along. “It was a great visit,” he said.

Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2008/10/01/nick-russell/#ixzz0lqEjTpsJ


FACE michigan cat, FACE
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2010, 12:30:15 PM
this is why I was scared, rusty.  this is why I was scared.

FACE michigan cat, FACE
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 22, 2010, 12:32:36 PM
DC area piece that mainly just makes me sad for what could have been

http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2010/04/21/washington-area-also-the-nations-point-guard-capital/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on April 22, 2010, 01:33:30 PM
koppe22 dug up some fairly boring names now on the rivals database.  better than nothing.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Forrest-Robinson-93769
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holmes-99386
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Rasham-Suarez-111374
http://rivals.yahoo.com/miami/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarvis-Threatt-108321

suarez is from puerto rico, and played in iowa and at findlay for short times prior to being wherever he is now.


Sorry you werent entertained, that hurts deeply.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 22, 2010, 01:39:24 PM
do you just search for your name or something, kind of weird imo. you should read the cattmatt vs. mr. kk thread, whats that expression....like looking in a mirror.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 22, 2010, 01:54:39 PM
Sorry you werent entertained, that hurts deeply.

it was a great job of digging up the names.  it's just that the names suck.  which in a way makes them more impressive finds, if you're looking for board cred.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 22, 2010, 01:55:18 PM
Sorry you werent entertained, that hurts deeply.

it was a great job of digging up the names.  it's just that the names suck.  which in a way makes them more impressive finds, if you're looking for board cred.
we got some hurt feelin's up  in this thread
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on April 22, 2010, 01:58:37 PM
Sorry you werent entertained, that hurts deeply.

it was a great job of digging up the names.  it's just that the names suck.  which in a way makes them more impressive finds, if you're looking for board cred.

I am a gigantic attention slut, so yes it does.


I stalk Angel Rodriguez daily on FB and  he never says anything about us, kinda bugs  me. That and I cant read 75% of what he is saying because its spanish.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 22, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
I stalk Angel Rodriguez daily on FB and  he never says anything about us, kinda bugs  me. That and I cant read 75% of what he is saying because its spanish.

he never says anything about anyone else either.  like most tropics players, he probably realizes there's no point getting worked up about any particular school before alvarez even tells him where he's going to go.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 22, 2010, 02:32:20 PM
harrison update from texashoops.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076843

Quote
He said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2010, 03:07:04 PM
harrison update from texashoops.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076843

Quote
He said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.

Jesus.  Epic :facepalm:  (or we told him to shut his damn mouth when we recruit him).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 22, 2010, 03:11:46 PM
harrison update from texashoops.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076843

Quote
He said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.

Jesus.  Epic :facepalm:  (or we told him to shut his damn mouth when we recruit him).

:dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2010, 03:14:59 PM
harrison update from texashoops.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076843

Quote
He said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.

Jesus.  Epic :facepalm:  (or we told him to shut his damn mouth when we recruit him).

:dunno:

A&m and OSU had already shown interest before the tournament. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 22, 2010, 03:18:20 PM
Frank to staff:  So, um, you guys going to recruit this week
Staff:  No, we're good (throws another cheeto in mouth and wipes hands on sweatpants while turning up the volume on cartoon network)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2010, 03:20:53 PM
harrison update from texashoops.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1076843

Quote
He said that since the tournament, he's received interest from Texas A&M, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Arizona State, Alabama, Houston and SMU.

Jesus.  Epic :facepalm:  (or we told him to shut his damn mouth when we recruit him).

:dunno:

A&m and OSU had already shown interest before the tournament. 


yep.  He actually said we were his leader along w/ a&M before the tournament.  But why call a guy after he averages like 45/game at a major AAU event?  Let Travis Ford have him.  :dunno:

Frank to staff:  So, um, you guys going to recruit this week
Staff:  No, we're good (throws another cheeto in mouth and wipes hands on sweatpants while turning up the volume on cartoon network)

PERRY ELLIS!  PITINO AND CAL WERE THERE!  :ksu:

:blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2010, 03:24:36 PM
the staff must've decided harrison wasn't the right fit. or they got scared because other schools had begun to hear about him. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 22, 2010, 03:26:50 PM
PERRY ELLIS!  PITINO AND CAL WERE THERE!  :ksu:

:blank:

some gpc guy claimed that martin arrived to ict from chicago.  no info on if connecting.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 22, 2010, 03:27:19 PM
Frank to staff:  So, um, you guys going to recruit this week
Staff:  No, we're good (throws another cheeto in mouth and wipes hands on sweatpants while turning up the volume on cartoon network)

lolled.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 22, 2010, 03:31:07 PM
PERRY ELLIS!  PITINO AND CAL WERE THERE!  :ksu:

:blank:

according to http://kentuckysportsradio.com/ pitino will be getting desperate for a good 2011 class

Quote
But the real story of the Teague commitment is the stone cold kick to the gut for Louisville and Rick Pitino. Make no mistake, this is one of, if not THE, worst recruiting losses in history for UL. Rick Pitino spent TWO YEARS recruiting Teague and building a relationship with the young man that was as tight as you see in recruiting circles. (http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=50128)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 22, 2010, 03:32:59 PM
the real story of the Teague commitment is the stone cold kick to the gut for Louisville and Rick Pitino. Make no mistake, this is one of, if not THE, worst recruiting losses in history for UL.

yeah, was brutal.  kstate equiv. would be rodtri being sent elsewhere.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on April 22, 2010, 09:20:14 PM
Cezar Guererro-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ
 Im in love
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on April 22, 2010, 09:20:50 PM
Tlked to guerrero via fb- he said  he would keep kstate in his mind.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 22, 2010, 09:23:19 PM
Tlked to guerrero via fb- he said  he would keep kstate in his mind.
.
great.  now talk to our staff.

BTW, Guerrero plays like I expected Boatright to play. (style wise)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on April 23, 2010, 02:41:30 AM
Frank to staff:  So, um, you guys going to recruit this week
Staff:  No, we're good (throws another cheeto in mouth and wipes hands on sweatpants while turning up the volume on cartoon network)
your visuals are fantastic. always make me lol.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 23, 2010, 11:17:42 AM
Did anyone recruit leawoodcat when the exodus happened?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CrushNasty on April 23, 2010, 12:29:33 PM
Did anyone recruit leawoodcat when the exodus happened?   :dunno:

 :runaway:

(http://classes.design.ucla.edu/si/08/student_work/_web/_week1/NickHalper/Images/HomeAlone.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on April 23, 2010, 01:49:16 PM
Tlked to guerrero via fb- he said  he would keep kstate in his mind.
.
great.  now talk to our staff.

BTW, Guerrero plays like I expected Boatright to play. (style wise)
I havent seen Boatright play. But idc I want Cezar Guerrero on my team.  He's not being recruited as hard as you would expect because of transfer isssues, and a broken collar bone this past summer. So he didnt get to compete during the summer. I fully expect him to be a minimum 4 star. Go get'em frank.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2010, 02:18:54 PM
Quote from: bossi
I could watch Team Texas' Thomas Gipson play all day. Strong, tough 6-6 ass kicker in the lane.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 25, 2010, 05:16:54 AM
Quote
If you are looking for a big guy in the class of 2012, you are in luck. '12 is LOADED with bigs of all levels.

keep wondering if kstate is recruiting 2 guards for the remaining 'ships.  and waiting on '12 for bigs.  seems odd to have so many (relatively) guard names, and so few bigs.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 25, 2010, 08:24:07 AM
Quote
Going against Larkin was Ryan Boatright. The Chicago point man has a lot of flash to his game, and is ultra quick with the ball. Boatright didn't start the game, and it took him a little while to find his rhythm, but he was solid overall. His handle is very impressive, and also he has a great looking shot. He still needs to do more to set up his teammates, but Boatright kept D-Rose in the game with his play.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on April 26, 2010, 11:59:11 AM
Sys or anybody else, how long have we been on 4-Star Wayne Martin's list??

I check it pretty often and Im  just now noticing we are showing up?

Did I just miss this?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Wayne-Martin-102054


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 26, 2010, 12:04:26 PM
post #376 this thread.  goes by yosh.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2010, 01:30:20 PM
Quote
Cliffs' notes are: Nino is starting to take his game to another level, starting to knock down 3's consistently along with dominating in the paint. Sounds like he may attend Brewster Academy, a prep school in New Hampshire next year. By my count, Brewster had no less than 7 DI signees on their team this year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2010, 01:34:28 PM
Quote
Cliffs' notes are: Nino is starting to take his game to another level, starting to knock down 3's consistently along with dominating in the paint. Sounds like he may attend Brewster Academy, a prep school in New Hampshire next year. By my count, Brewster had no less than 7 DI signees on their team this year.

:eek:

I probably talk more sh*t about our staff's recruiting than anyone, but it seems like most guys they offer early end up a lot better than they seem initially.  (Spradling being the exception....so far.)

Hope we didn't piss off Nino by taking the POS Canadian instead.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2010, 01:38:18 PM
Other cruits mentioned

Quote
The have Perry Ellis only listed at 6'7". Said he's really working on his perimeter game and starting to show improvement in that area.

Willie Cauley is legit 6'10" to go along w/really long arms. Due to that length, is really a presence on D. Needs bulk, but runs floor very well  and is deserving of high-major interest he's receiving.

Semi Ojeleye(Vic's younger brother), is 6'5". Plays hard and really gets after it on O glass. Already an outstanding passer, has good looking shot and can also handle the ball
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2010, 01:48:09 PM
Other cruits mentioned

Quote
The have Perry Ellis only listed at 6'7". Said he's really working on his perimeter game and starting to show improvement in that area.

Willie Cauley is legit 6'10" to go along w/really long arms. Due to that length, is really a presence on D. Needs bulk, but runs floor very well  and is deserving of high-major interest he's receiving.

Semi Ojeleye(Vic's younger brother), is 6'5". Plays hard and really gets after it on O glass. Already an outstanding passer, has good looking shot and can also handle the ball

where is this from?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2010, 01:52:01 PM
Other cruits mentioned

Quote
The have Perry Ellis only listed at 6'7". Said he's really working on his perimeter game and starting to show improvement in that area.

Willie Cauley is legit 6'10" to go along w/really long arms. Due to that length, is really a presence on D. Needs bulk, but runs floor very well  and is deserving of high-major interest he's receiving.

Semi Ojeleye(Vic's younger brother), is 6'5". Plays hard and really gets after it on O glass. Already an outstanding passer, has good looking shot and can also handle the ball

where is this from?

a Poster from the scout site paraphrased the premium article.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 26, 2010, 02:05:59 PM
Quote
Cliffs' notes are: Nino is starting to take his game to another level, starting to knock down 3's consistently along with dominating in the paint. Sounds like he may attend Brewster Academy, a prep school in New Hampshire next year. By my count, Brewster had no less than 7 DI signees on their team this year.

Do we know an accurate height at this time? Still 6'5"?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 26, 2010, 02:50:46 PM
I probably talk more sh*t about our staff's recruiting than anyone, but it seems like most guys they offer early end up a lot better than they seem initially.

with williams, you were just being stubborn.  it was obvious he has a high major body and decent skills.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 26, 2010, 03:01:51 PM
I tend to trust the early offers regardless of rating.  (even Spradling)  The later (fall) offers always seems suspect.   Late period (Spring) offers are putrid (D1 transfers aside).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 26, 2010, 03:42:53 PM
I probably talk more sh*t about our staff's recruiting than anyone, but it seems like most guys they offer early end up a lot better than they seem initially.

with williams, you were just being stubborn.  it was obvious he has a high major body and decent skills.

meh, he just seemed like another southwell w/ worse handles.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 26, 2010, 03:43:06 PM
I tend to trust the early offers regardless of rating.  (even Spradling)  The later (fall) offers always seems suspect.   Late period (Spring) offers are putrid (D1 transfers aside).

rule of thumb
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 26, 2010, 10:16:07 PM
Quote
2011 is not a tremendously strong overall PG class in terms of depth. That's why guys are flying of the board quickly.

 :bait:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 27, 2010, 10:04:32 AM
opportunity.

Quote
Kadeem Jack was set to announce his college choice Wednesday on SNY.tv, but instead appears headed to prep school, possibly South Kent (Conn).

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/27/kadeem-jack-to-prep-school/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2010, 12:05:08 PM
opportunity.

Quote
Kadeem Jack was set to announce his college choice Wednesday on SNY.tv, but instead appears headed to prep school, possibly South Kent (Conn).

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/27/kadeem-jack-to-prep-school/

Would like to have
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 27, 2010, 07:43:01 PM
http://austinrichie.net/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y06AvC3LzZI
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 27, 2010, 07:51:28 PM
http://austinrichie.net/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y06AvC3LzZI

kstate's elite 8 obviously meant the same thing to martin that maryland's championship meant to williams.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 27, 2010, 09:17:25 PM
http://austinrichie.net/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y06AvC3LzZI

kstate's elite 8 obviously meant the same thing to martin that maryland's championship meant to williams.

heh.  Can't wait for the, "I know what LJ Goolsby is" quote.

Was there more news w/ this kid or something?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 27, 2010, 09:22:18 PM
presumably just that he got a kstate listing on rivals.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/illinois/basketball/recruiting/player-Austin-Richie-108040
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 27, 2010, 09:32:45 PM
presumably just that he got a kstate listing on rivals.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/illinois/basketball/recruiting/player-Austin-Richie-108040

Butler special right there folks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 28, 2010, 09:49:17 AM
Cook named leaders.  Did we make the cut?   :ohno:

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 28, 2010, 09:55:33 AM
Cook named leaders.  Did we make the cut?   :ohno:

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

Only "for sure" visits are to Wildcats!

 :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 28, 2010, 09:56:17 AM
Cook named leaders.  Did we make the cut?   :ohno:

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

Yeah, we made his final 16 (or more)

Quote
Notre Dame, Villanova, UCLA, Kansas State, Virginia, Georgetown, Tennessee, Florida State, Wake Forest, Arizona, Indiana, Connecticut and Washington are all under consideration. Each program has committed itself with a scholarship offer.  Kentucky, Duke and North Carolina are involved as well.

Quote
"It's not a closed list," Cook said.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 28, 2010, 09:56:47 AM
 :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 28, 2010, 09:58:08 AM
Cook named leaders.  Did we make the cut?   :ohno:

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

Only "for sure" visits are to Wildcats!

 :ksu:

AZ and KY so as not to tease anyone
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 28, 2010, 09:58:57 AM
could we make the elite 8 twice in one year.  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 28, 2010, 10:00:37 AM
Cook named leaders.  Did we make the cut?   :ohno:

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

Only "for sure" visits are to Wildcats!

 :ksu:

AZ and KY so as not to tease anyone

I'm hopeful its a trend.  :crossfingers:

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on April 28, 2010, 10:02:22 AM
 :lol: nice misleading headline.  Better than not being mentioned though.   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 28, 2010, 10:51:23 AM
could we make the elite 8 twice in one year.  :crossfingers:

lol
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 28, 2010, 11:28:36 AM
could we make the elite 8 twice in one year.  :crossfingers:

lol
top yla poat?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2010, 10:03:22 AM
Gauchos stuff

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/29/rices-hicks-jack-weighing-options/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yat on April 29, 2010, 10:25:55 AM
Gauchos stuff

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/04/29/rices-hicks-jack-weighing-options/

Yet because of a new NCAA rule, if Hicks were to join St. John’s in that capacity, the program could not recruit any players from Rice or the Gauchos AAU program for the next two years.


 :surprised:

Did not know about this.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 29, 2010, 10:50:44 AM
the whole jack to prep thing makes no sense.  no angle.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2010, 12:59:15 PM
the whole jack to prep thing makes no sense.  no angle.

grades?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on April 29, 2010, 01:03:51 PM
Cook named leaders.  Did we make the cut?   :ohno:

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1079355&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=

Yeah, we made his final 16 (or more)

Quote
Notre Dame, Villanova, UCLA, Kansas State, Virginia, Georgetown, Tennessee, Florida State, Wake Forest, Arizona, Indiana, Connecticut and Washington are all under consideration. Each program has committed itself with a scholarship offer.  Kentucky, Duke and North Carolina are involved as well.


Quote
"It's not a closed list," Cook said.

I didn't like this movie the first time I saw it, when it was called Wesley Witherspoon.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 29, 2010, 01:16:21 PM
the whole jack to prep thing makes no sense.  no angle.

grades?

he's qualified.  unless people have been lied to, or something.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 29, 2010, 04:45:30 PM
the whole jack to prep thing makes no sense.  no angle.

grades?

he's qualified.  unless people have been lied to, or something.

he thinks he's better than the schools that have offerred and wants an elite school (like KSU) to come calling when they have room next year?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 29, 2010, 04:48:31 PM
he thinks he's better than the schools that have offerred and wants an elite school (like KSU) to come calling when they have room next year?

he's got some elite offers.  but, yeah, holding out for a kstate offer seems is about the only rational explanation i can come up with too.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on April 29, 2010, 09:52:10 PM
thank god the prep system has finally allowed more deserving young men to fufill their EMAW apirations   :kstatriot:

plus it seems much more socially acceptable than the jc route   :blindfold:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 29, 2010, 09:57:09 PM
thank god the prep system has finally allowed more deserving young men to fufill their EMAW apirations   :kstatriot:

plus it seems much more socially acceptable than the jc route   :blindfold:
yup, he's definitely coming KAZZU's way via prep
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 30, 2010, 01:10:40 AM
KAZZU

 :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 30, 2010, 10:25:20 PM
anthony davis getting lots of attention from telep and snow.


no mention.  just pullen/meanstreets, tai streets in mhk, i'm desperate.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 01, 2010, 12:48:05 PM
Quote from: snow
Nino Williams really gets to the foul line for Mo-Kan... Tough and athletic wing.

jyc.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 01, 2010, 02:23:02 PM
anthony davis getting lots of attention from telep and snow.


no mention.  just pullen/meanstreets, tai streets in mhk, i'm desperate.

He's going to be a rivals 5 star.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 02, 2010, 07:43:57 AM
eric bossi podcast on 810.  talks about williams, kstate 2010 class, perry ellis.  it's ok.  also mentions beal possibly opening up (for people that care about other team's recruiting).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on May 02, 2010, 12:03:07 PM
eric bossi podcast on 810.  talks about williams, kstate 2010 class, perry ellis.  it's ok.  also mentions beal possibly opening up (for people that care about other team's recruiting).
Who would Beal consider if he did re-open.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 02, 2010, 02:49:11 PM
eric bossi podcast on 810.  talks about williams, kstate 2010 class, perry ellis.  it's ok.  also mentions beal possibly opening up (for people that care about other team's recruiting).
Who would Beal consider if he did re-open.

freak42, I think it's your job to find out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on May 02, 2010, 03:43:59 PM
eric bossi podcast on 810.  talks about williams, kstate 2010 class, perry ellis.  it's ok.  also mentions beal possibly opening up (for people that care about other team's recruiting).
Who would Beal consider if he did re-open.

freak42, I think it's your job to find out.
ON IT
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 03, 2010, 10:07:46 AM
another 2011 2 guard from stl that is performing very well this spring.  probably a top 50 per snow.  crazy to have 3 top 50 type 2s in stl in one year.


probably not going to be eligible.  maybe juco or prep.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-B.J.-Young-102238
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on May 03, 2010, 10:16:45 AM
probably not going to be eligible.  maybe juco or prep.

same story with mclemore?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 03, 2010, 10:33:14 AM
same story with mclemore?

it sounds like he's also a risk, but is much more likely to qualify.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OregonSmock on May 03, 2010, 08:10:43 PM
probably not going to be eligible.  maybe juco or prep.

same story with mclemore?



McLemore is going to Oak Hill Academy, so he'll be eligible most likely after his senior season.  At this point, most schools have backed off because KU is considered such a heavy favorite.  Georgetown is the only other school that has really given him much attention lately.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on May 03, 2010, 08:39:34 PM
probably not going to be eligible.  maybe juco or prep.

same story with mclemore?



McLemore is going to Oak Hill Academy, so he'll be eligible most likely after his senior season.  At this point, most schools have backed off because KU is considered such a heavy favorite.  Georgetown is the only other school that has really given him much attention lately.

Do you have any idea how stupid this sounds?

I can just see Calipari, et al "backing off"  :driving: <-- only in reverse   for fear that KU is the "heavy favorite"   :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 03, 2010, 09:29:46 PM
McLemore is going to Oak Hill Academy, so he'll be eligible most likely after his senior season.  At this point, most schools have backed off because KU is considered such a heavy favorite.  Georgetown is the only other school that has really given him much attention lately.

Do you have any idea how stupid this sounds?

lol.  oh, sugar dicks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 03, 2010, 10:08:14 PM
Quote
• Class of 2011 Kansas State commit Nino Williams (Lansing, Kan./Leavenworth) is a rim-attacker for Spiece Mo-Kan. His body is college-ready and he finishes through contact on slashes and post-ups. Williams also sprints through block-outs for offensive rebounds.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5157644
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on May 03, 2010, 10:25:23 PM
Quote
• Class of 2011 Kansas State commit Nino Williams (Lansing, Kan./Leavenworth) is a rim-attacker for Spiece Mo-Kan. His body is college-ready and he finishes through contact on slashes and post-ups. Williams also sprints through block-outs for offensive rebounds.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5157644

I'm pretty sure that the David Hoskins comparisons are dead on.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 03, 2010, 10:32:27 PM
Quote
• Class of 2011 Kansas State commit Nino Williams (Lansing, Kan./Leavenworth) is a rim-attacker for Spiece Mo-Kan. His body is college-ready and he finishes through contact on slashes and post-ups. Williams also sprints through block-outs for offensive rebounds.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5157644

I'm pretty sure that the David Hoskins comparisons are dead on.


I think Nino has better range, but yeah.  Pretty close.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 03, 2010, 11:15:24 PM
Quote
Kadeem Jack just sent the same text to 40 media outlets...  He committed to prep school over Arizona, Arkansas, Miami-FL, and UConn.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 03, 2010, 11:22:31 PM
Quote
Kadeem Jack just sent the same text to 40 media outlets...  He committed to prep school over Arizona, Arkansas, Miami-FL, and UConn.

Hope Southwell really loves Manhattan next year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 04, 2010, 02:37:50 AM
maxpreps 100.

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/iyNnXlbbEd-lugAcxJTdpg/class-of-2011-basketball-top-100-.htm
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2010, 06:57:09 AM
Quote
Kadeem Jack just sent the same text to 40 media outlets...  He committed to prep school over Arizona, Arkansas, Miami-FL, and UConn.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on May 04, 2010, 09:02:30 PM
like this:

Quote
Nino Williams/6-foot-6/WG from Spiece Mo-Kan is cut up like a Roman Soldier! Explosive like TNT!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 04, 2010, 11:30:42 PM
definitive proof that kstate is now recruiting jack and has prohibited him from mentioning kstate publicly.


Quote
He added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/04/jack-headed-to-prep-school.aspx
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 04, 2010, 11:39:36 PM
definitive proof that kstate is now recruiting jack and has prohibited him from mentioning kstate publicly.


Quote
He added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/04/jack-headed-to-prep-school.aspx

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 04, 2010, 11:52:09 PM
like this:

Quote
Nino Williams/6-foot-6/WG from Spiece Mo-Kan is cut up like a Roman Soldier! Explosive like TNT!


who said this?  nice quote.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 05, 2010, 01:42:11 AM
confirmation that a kstate coach has left the state of ks on a recruiting trip.  rodriguez and two other miami names, holton and perkins.

http://www.floridahoops.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=55&func=view&id=8241&catid=3


http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Darius-Perkins-70974#latest_news
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holton-89231

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 05, 2010, 07:29:06 AM
confirmation that a kstate coach has left the state of ks on a recruiting trip.  rodriguez and two other miami names, holton and perkins.

http://www.floridahoops.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=55&func=view&id=8241&catid=3


http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Darius-Perkins-70974#latest_news
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Jonathan-Holton-89231



Nice find sys.  Anyone kind of worried that we are sending Dalonte to Florida?  Like, have we just given up out east?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 05, 2010, 09:20:25 AM
Nice find sys.  Anyone kind of worried that we are sending Dalonte to Florida?  Like, have we just given up out east?

he's gotta do something, right?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 05, 2010, 10:02:55 AM
Nice find sys.  Anyone kind of worried that we are sending Dalonte to Florida?  Like, have we just given up out east?

he's gotta do something, right?

Maybe its like a working vacation.  Spend 3-4 days on the beach/resort, a day or two talking to an AAU coach, visting a HS, and visiting Art/Tropics.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 05, 2010, 08:41:42 PM
From Meek's blog.  Not much in there, but some further mention of Nino's shooting/ball handling improvement. 


Quote
K-State fans will be interested to watch Spiece MoKan's Nino Williams, a 2011 commit who is drawing positive reviews on the circuit.

"He's always been an extremely physical and aggressive kid," Suther said. "He's really shooting the ball better. He shot close to 50 percent from the 3-point line last weekend.

"The other deficiency with his game was his ballhandling. He's working on that on a daily basis. Now he's able to put it on the floor create of the dribble."

There was some thought that Williams could join K-State in 2010, but it looks like he'll go the prep school route. (K-State just filled its final scholarship with juco point guard Juevol Myles.)

"(Prep school) is the plan," Suther said. "We're still waiting to hear back from the NCAA Clearinghouse on where he's at."

Suther said Williams is looking at a couple East Coast prep schools, including Brewster Academy in New Hampshire.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 08, 2010, 08:40:21 AM
what the hell are we doing?  offer this kid already!   :runaway:

Quote
D'Angelo Harrison (2011 Franchize All Stars)- Perhaps no player in the class has done more to raise his stock this spring than Harrison. After tearing it up at the Real Deal in the Rock last month, Harrison's recruitment took off. The shooting guard now has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, SMU and UTEP. Memphis is also showing interest.

Oddly enough, Harrison's top three schools of Texas A&M, Kansas State and Houston have not offered.

In a variety of ways, Harrison scored 32 points in his team's win. He drained three-pointers, scored off the dribble and repeatedly got to the free throw line. Solid and composed with the basketball, Harrison has a crafty pace to his game as a scorer.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 08, 2010, 09:34:29 AM
what the hell are we doing?  offer this kid already!   :runaway:

on vacation.   :gocho:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 08, 2010, 09:40:21 AM
Frank, Figs and Undy are still evaluating the kids locker room "fit" factor . . . very important, takes time.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on May 08, 2010, 10:45:47 AM
what the hell are we doing?  offer this kid already!   :runaway:

on vacation.   :gocho:

And let everyone in the country know we are in on this kid?  No thank you.  Our Covert recruiting ops do not work that way.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2010, 11:41:45 AM
Frank, Figs and Undy are still evaluating the kids locker room "fit" factor . . . very important, takes time.



Telling people we're recruiting him is a big red flag IMO. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 08, 2010, 12:11:23 PM
out of 2009, 2010, 2011 commits (including mitchell), did any prominently mention kstate to the media more than a month or so prior to committing?  can't think of any, but i don't really recall the 2009s so well.  asprilla's handler did, of course, but handlers don't count.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2010, 02:03:57 PM
out of 2009, 2010, 2011 commits (including mitchell), did any prominently mention kstate to the media more than a month or so prior to committing?  can't think of any, but i don't really recall the 2009s so well.  asprilla's handler did, of course, but handlers don't count.

pretty sure spradling did.  Judge mentioned KSU pretty early in the process, but some of his late summer updates didn't and I pretty much assumed we lost him.  His and McGruder's commitments basically came out of nowhere.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 08, 2010, 02:26:56 PM
pretty sure spradling did.  Judge mentioned KSU pretty early in the process, but some of his late summer updates didn't and I pretty much assumed we lost him.  His and McGruder's commitments basically came out of nowhere.

yeah, spradling did.


just pulled up his first update, which was the 2007 elite camp report.  it wasn't just jmart back then.  maybe because of competition from him, or whatever.  the update had high information density.

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K-State hosted its first ever Elite Camp, an event that allows the coaches to see some of the top prospects from the area as well as some from across the country they hope to lure to play in their program. The camp was limited to players entering the ninth through 12th grades in the fall of 2007 and is especially recommended for those who are college-bound.

"Having an Elite Camp is extremely beneficial when you can have that caliber of players come in and you actually put them through a practice session similar to what we put our players through," the coach said. "It gives those guys a chance to see what we do with our guys and our teaching points. At the end of the day, recruiting is about building relationships, and any time you can spend time with guys you'd like to recruit or are recruiting, it is either going to strengthen that relationship or just help you understand if players are right for you and vice versa."

Martin also talked about the skill level of the players they had in the camp.

"Tremendous. Tremendous. I believe we had 42 young men. I could be wrong by one or two, but when we broke camp I'm pretty sure that was about the number. That's where we wanted it at. There were some high level players there, some high level players, and the kind of guys that if you get will help us win a lot of Big 12 games."


CAMP STANDOUTS

Florida Rams president Matt Ramker said there were six players who showed their skills as some of the tops in the camp.

"Our three from here (Kenny Kadji, Ray Shipman and Dago Pena), Marcus Denmon and Travis Releford from Kansas City and Terrence Boyd from Norman kind of separated themselves from the others on the court. They were playing at a high level throughout the weekend."


MORE PARTICIPANTS
The list of all participants is not available but several other prospects' names have been identified as making their way to Manhattan. Shawnee Mission South point guard Will Spradling was one of the participants. The 6-foot-1 point guard is one of Kansas City's better prospects from the upcoming sophomore class.

Bishop Miege sophomore-to-be Justin McCay, who played this season as a freshman for the Stags, was there as were three of his teammates. McCay's freshman classmate Trevor Releford was in attendance. A fourth member of the Stags, Willie Reed, was at the Elite Camp, but the 6-foot-9 center committed to play for St. Louis University on Tuesday.

Two other Kansas players in attendance were Wichita Southeast guard and 2008 prospect Jordan Cyphers and Abilene, Kan., guard and 2010 recruit Curry Sexton.


FUTURE LOOKS BRIGHT
Sexton was able to watch most of the 2007-08 K-State team scrimmage while he was in Manhattan as the players scrimmaged Saturday night at Bramlage Coliseum.

"We got to watch the current team scrimmage," Sexton said. "They had some impressive plays and players. Michael Beasley was hitting everything he threw up. He is going to be very good next year.

"The guy that really impressed me was Dominique Sutton. I had heard he was pretty good, but I didn't know he was that good. It didn't matter who was on him or where he was. He would go around them and score or he could shoot outside and make it. Like I said, I didn't know he was that good."

   

BIG IMPROVEMENT
Sexton was also impressed by Kadji during the camp sessions.

"I was at the game when (Kadji) came to Bramlage with his team to play Beasley's team," he said. "From what I saw that day to what I saw this weekend, he has made a lot of improvement.

"He was a good player and you could tell he had ability earlier, but he was just a better player this weekend than he was then."


A FAMILIAR SOUND

Pena and Martin both speak fluent Spanish, a fact that allowed the 6-foot-6 forward to hit it off well with the Wildcat coach.
"I think Dago really felt good being able to talk in Spanish with Frank," Ramker said. "They were talking all weekend to each other and laughing. It was good for Dago to get to do that."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 08, 2010, 10:07:23 PM
definitive proof that kstate is now recruiting jack and has prohibited him from mentioning kstate publicly.


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He added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/04/jack-headed-to-prep-school.aspx

lols

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/08/jack-to-visit-carolina-kentucky/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on May 10, 2010, 08:21:02 AM
definitive proof that kstate is now recruiting jack and has prohibited him from mentioning kstate publicly.


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He added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/04/jack-headed-to-prep-school.aspx

lols

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/08/jack-to-visit-carolina-kentucky/

Quote from: SethDavisHoops
Steve Lavin's smartest hire at StJ was Rice HS coach Maurice Hicks. I'll bet Hicks is the highest paid director of bkb operations in the US.

wonder if Jack wants to stay at home to play college ball
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 10, 2010, 08:28:51 AM
wonder if Jack wants to stay at home to play college ball

sju couldn't take him, if he did.  the chalmers rule passed earlier this year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on May 10, 2010, 08:30:32 AM
wonder if Jack wants to stay at home to play college ball

sju couldn't take him, if he did.  the chalmers rule passed earlier this year.

doh.  thx 4 clarification.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 10, 2010, 08:49:42 AM
wonder if Jack wants to stay at home to play college ball

sju couldn't take him, if he did.  the chalmers rule passed earlier this year.

I'll admit, I wondered at first if the prep school thing was a loophole around this rule.  I don't think it would work though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 10, 2010, 09:01:25 AM
I'll admit, I wondered at first if the prep school thing was a loophole around this rule.  I don't think it would work though.

yeah, that was my thought too, but it doesn't work.  the 2011 rice guy could do that, if he was inclined.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on May 10, 2010, 01:17:20 PM
definitive proof that kstate is now recruiting jack and has prohibited him from mentioning kstate publicly.


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He added, “I started speaking to a couple of schools, but I don’t wanna speak on it yet, but when I start really speaking to them and get on good terms with them, then I can give names and all that.”

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/04/jack-headed-to-prep-school.aspx

lols

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/08/jack-to-visit-carolina-kentucky/

http://kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=51416
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 10, 2010, 01:59:24 PM
hey underdog wildcat, register here.  even if you don't want to post you can send me pms with scout premium info.  and you can be included on recruiting pms from here.


do it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 10, 2010, 05:14:20 PM
WTF is a PM? :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 10, 2010, 05:20:25 PM
 :love:

pm = personal message.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on May 10, 2010, 05:22:01 PM
hey underdog wildcat, register here.  even if you don't want to post you can send me pms with scout premium info.  and you can be included on recruiting pms from here.


do it.

Didn't know we had these.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 10, 2010, 05:44:46 PM
:love:

pm = personal message.

Well if I ever find anything worth a damn that hasn't already been posted here, I'll go ahead and post it, Powertards will probably will still get 1st dibs, but I'll save the really cool super insidery stuff(ie, stuff that would probably only get about 2 views on GPC but MIGHT generate some discussion,  because let's be clear, I have no inside sources) for over here.

The whole PM really does mystify me though, does it just pop up on the screen like an IM?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 10, 2010, 05:46:28 PM
Mental Note: include underdog cat in future PM circles.   :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 10, 2010, 06:29:24 PM
The whole PM really does mystify me though, does it just pop up on the screen like an IM?

upper left corner.  under user info.  i sent you a pm without any content; for practice.

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Hey, underdog wildcat, you have x messages, y are new.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 10, 2010, 08:56:11 PM
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D'Angelo Harrison
Franchize All Stars, 2011 shooting guard
Harrison is the epitome of a shot maker. A pure shooter, Harrison has deep range and can also score off the dribble inside the arc. Top all that off with a penchant for getting to the free-throw line. The rest of his game is solid, but his scoring ability is exceptional.

Harrison has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, SMU and UTEP, but Texas A&M, Kansas State and Houston are his top three schools.

is harrison emaw enough to force the staff to offer, despite his obvious lack of fit?


http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1083243
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 10, 2010, 09:25:53 PM
Quote
D'Angelo Harrison
Franchize All Stars, 2011 shooting guard
Harrison is the epitome of a shot maker. A pure shooter, Harrison has deep range and can also score off the dribble inside the arc. Top all that off with a penchant for getting to the free-throw line. The rest of his game is solid, but his scoring ability is exceptional.

Harrison has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, SMU and UTEP, but Texas A&M, Kansas State and Houston are his top three schools.

is harrison emaw enough to force the staff to offer, despite his obvious lack of fit?


http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1083243

NO.  He's part of the lacksadaisical (sic) '11 class.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on May 10, 2010, 09:58:26 PM
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D'Angelo Harrison
Franchize All Stars, 2011 shooting guard
Harrison is the epitome of a shot maker. A pure shooter, Harrison has deep range and can also score off the dribble inside the arc. Top all that off with a penchant for getting to the free-throw line. The rest of his game is solid, but his scoring ability is exceptional.

Harrison has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, SMU and UTEP, but Texas A&M, Kansas State and Houston are his top three schools.

is harrison emaw enough to force the staff to offer, despite his obvious lack of fit?


http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1083243

isn't that enough to NOT offer him, he obviously doesn't fit what the staff is looking for, good luck lighting it up at Okie Light, we only want players that fit our system. See you in the  :doom:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 10, 2010, 10:46:29 PM
BRIEF Harrison highlights linked below. Can't really tell a whole lot, but it looks like he has a really smooth jumper and shoots it with plenty of range. This kid is quickly moving atop my wish list for '11, go ahead and offer him already.

Harrison is #45 in white.

http://www.myhoustons55.com/_Basketball-FB-Bush-v-Dulles/video/944523/38668.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 10, 2010, 10:50:46 PM
BRIEF Harrison highlights linked below. Can't really tell a whole lot, but it looks like he has a really smooth jumper and shoots it with plenty of range. This kid is quickly moving atop my wish list for '11, go ahead and offer him already.

Harrison is #45 in white.

http://www.myhoustons55.com/_Basketball-FB-Bush-v-Dulles/video/944523/38668.html

Jesus, where have you been all my life?  :love:

:katpak:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 10, 2010, 11:11:44 PM
Wait . . . does he have the "fit" factor so desperately desired by the coaching staff . . . gotta throw in a "I trust Frank" for posterity sake.  

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on May 11, 2010, 12:02:27 AM
I thought he looked like an extremely unathletic Fred Brown type.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on May 11, 2010, 12:18:35 AM
great range for a high school player. this kid likes us and seems to fit our style and looks like a player this coaching staff would covet. kinda surprised we haven't offered
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2010, 05:42:19 AM
I thought he looked like an extremely unathletic Fred Brown type.

 :dunno:

Yeah, he really didn't look all that impressive on his 3 highlights.  But the finding the highlights was impressive.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 11, 2010, 02:51:19 PM
Another Harrison update from Rivals, this time from Virginia site. No clue if it's free or not. I do find it odd that there's no mention of the Cats despite him naming us as 1 of his leaders just this past weekend. He also named Houston in his Top 3 but they aren't mentioned in this update either.

All I know for sure is this kid can get buckets in droves against high-level competition. Is that EMAW enough for Frank and Co? We'll be finding out...

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1083431
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 11, 2010, 03:04:20 PM
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Harrison is drawing college attention from numerous programs and when asked which schools were recruiting him the hardest rattled off a list that included Virginia, Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Marquette, Baylor, Alabama, Auburn, Memphis and Wichita State.

not free.

honestly, if he'd have included kstate among the schools recruiting him the hardest, you'd have to suspect him of lying.  kstate doesn't recruit anyone the hardest.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 11, 2010, 03:36:00 PM
honestly, if he'd have included kstate among the schools recruiting him the hardest, you'd have to suspect him of lying.  kstate doesn't recruit anyone the hardest.

lol, love posts like this. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 11, 2010, 04:31:09 PM
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Harrison is drawing college attention from numerous programs and when asked which schools were recruiting him the hardest rattled off a list that included Virginia, Arizona State, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, Marquette, Baylor, Alabama, Auburn, Memphis and Wichita State.

not free.

honestly, if he'd have included kstate among the schools recruiting him the hardest, you'd have to suspect him of lying.  kstate doesn't recruit anyone the hardest.

Or we've clearly communicated to Harrison to keep his recruitment OTDL.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 11, 2010, 07:25:59 PM
more harrison buzz in whispers
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 11, 2010, 08:04:49 PM
Oh yeah this staff wants to keep everything on the DL . . . so much so not even the kid himself knows this staff is recruiting him.





Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 11, 2010, 08:09:12 PM
Oh yeah this staff wants to keep everything on the DL . . . so much so not even the kid himself knows this staff is recruiting him.

the staff firmly believes that a recruitment is a private matter between a coach and a handler.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 11, 2010, 09:49:30 PM
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Ryan Boatright
Year: Junior
Position: PG
Hometown: Aurora, IL
College: Undecided; Boatright de-committed from USC after the Tim Floyd fiasco. He had committed to USC in eighth grade.
Team-given lookalike: Tiger Woods
Team-given lookalike rating: 3 of 10. Boatright is nice kid with some nice dreams; Tiger Woods is an orange pornstar-slaying herb that just happens to be a golf prodigy. Boatright is a real person; Tiger is manufactured by Nike.
Bio: Charismatic on and off the court, Boatright finished second in the tournament in scoring at 19.6 ppg. Boat did much of his damage on fearless forays to the rim and bailout threes. He has a nice knack for the “oh snap, my team needs me to score right now or we’ll be in trouble” bucket. With the right coaching, the sky is the limit for Boat at a big-time program.
Quirk: Due to issues breathing out of his nose, Boat’s the only kid we’ve met who can go for 25 and 5 while consistently looking like he’s about to faint.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 11, 2010, 09:52:51 PM
From the whispers update

"Sharp shooting guard D'Angelo Harrison continues to fill it up this spring. The day after the Wallace Prather Memorial Event, Alabama called and Houston offered a scholarship. Harrison already has offers from UTEP, Oklahoma State, Arizona State, SMU and Arkansas."

So are we officially funneling kids to Anthony Grant? 1st, Trevor Releford, now Harrison.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 11, 2010, 10:13:12 PM

So are we officially funneling kids to Anthony Grant?


exactly what I thought when Alabama was added to his list. 

Frank to AG: "he shoots too well for me.  You should check him out though."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 12, 2010, 12:45:27 PM
Following up on Luke Winn's recommedation that we recruit P.R. native Carmelo Betancourt, I did some digging and came up with a couple nuggets regarding him and fellow PR native Rasham Suarez. No, they're not as cool as sys' stat finds but it does give some insight on what types of players they are. Montrose and St Benedict's are both national-level, highly visible programs, will be interesting to see if either ends up at 1 of those programs and how it will affect their recruitment.
We are listed on Suarez's Rivals profile and he mentioned us as recruiting him in a Scout update, but it doesn't appear we are heavily pursuing at this time, but you know our staff ...


http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/suarez-update.html

http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/betancourt-to-montrose-or-st-benedicts.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 12, 2010, 12:48:51 PM
Following up on Luke Winn's recommedation that we recruit P.R. native Carmelo Betancourt, I did some digging and came up with a couple nuggets regarding him and fellow PR native Rasham Suarez. No, they're not as cool as sys' stat finds but it does give some insight on what types of players they are. Montrose and St Benedict's are both national-level, highly visible programs, will be interesting to see if either ends up at 1 of those programs and how it will affect their recruitment.
We are listed on Suarez's Rivals profile and he mentioned us as recruiting him in a Scout update, but it doesn't appear we are heavily pursuing at this time, but you know our staff ...


http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/suarez-update.html

http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/betancourt-to-montrose-or-st-benedicts.html

Good work.

Could this be Frank?  :dunno:

Quote
I was down in PR this year looking at a couple of kids and to be honest the style of play and lack of size made it hard for me to see if the kids could really play. Very few of these kids really know or want to play defense and the transition game doesn't exist", said a D1 coach.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 12, 2010, 12:50:57 PM
Following up on Luke Winn's recommedation that we recruit P.R. native Carmelo Betancourt, I did some digging and came up with a couple nuggets regarding him and fellow PR native Rasham Suarez. No, they're not as cool as sys' stat finds but it does give some insight on what types of players they are. Montrose and St Benedict's are both national-level, highly visible programs, will be interesting to see if either ends up at 1 of those programs and how it will affect their recruitment.
We are listed on Suarez's Rivals profile and he mentioned us as recruiting him in a Scout update, but it doesn't appear we are heavily pursuing at this time, but you know our staff ...


http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/suarez-update.html

http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/betancourt-to-montrose-or-st-benedicts.html

Good work.

Could this be Frank?  :dunno:

Quote
I was down in PR this year looking at a couple of kids and to be honest the style of play and lack of size made it hard for me to see if the kids could really play. Very few of these kids really know or want to play defense and the transition game doesn't exist", said a D1 coach.

How could it NOT be? :doom:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 12, 2010, 01:32:26 PM
great find.

i have a hard time seeing kstate taking both betancourt and rodriguez.  but it is interesting to see that b-c is looking at high schooling in the us.  i saw on one of the earlier entries that browne-ramirez is also looking at coming to the us for a year, presumably prior to college.  not sure on his age though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on May 12, 2010, 04:14:59 PM
Following up on Luke Winn's recommedation that we recruit P.R. native Carmelo Betancourt, I did some digging and came up with a couple nuggets regarding him and fellow PR native Rasham Suarez. No, they're not as cool as sys' stat finds but it does give some insight on what types of players they are. Montrose and St Benedict's are both national-level, highly visible programs, will be interesting to see if either ends up at 1 of those programs and how it will affect their recruitment.
We are listed on Suarez's Rivals profile and he mentioned us as recruiting him in a Scout update, but it doesn't appear we are heavily pursuing at this time, but you know our staff ...


http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/suarez-update.html

http://insidepuertoricobasketball.blogspot.com/2010/05/betancourt-to-montrose-or-st-benedicts.html

Good work.

Could this be Frank?  :dunno:

Quote
I was down in PR this year looking at a couple of kids and to be honest the style of play and lack of size made it hard for me to see if the kids could really play. Very few of these kids really know or want to play defense and the transition game doesn't exist", said a D1 coach.

couldn't be frank - lack of "you know"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 13, 2010, 04:44:33 PM
northstar provides some corroboration to the rivals w. martin listing.


http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/05/13/wayne-martin-um-will-be-up-there.aspx

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Graded as a 90 by ESPNU's Scouts Inc., Wayne Martin of Providence School in Jacksonville is one of the top junior basketball players in the state of Florida.

As a 6-foot-8, 200-pound combo forward, Martin is being pursued by numerous big-time college programs primarily from the Southeast.

He claims scholarship offers from Ole Miss, Memphis, Alabama, Central Florida, Arkansas, Miami, and Virginia Tech.

“Well, not really [any favorites]," Martin said. "It’s still kind of up in the air. I’m still deciding, still cutting my list down."

Clemson, Kansas State, and Tennessee are also amongst the schools showing interest.

With the number of schools recruiting him being so high, Martin has yet to have the time to narrow down his list, and is not sure when he will.

“I hadn’t really thought about it yet,” he said. “There are so many schools, I’d have to sit and analyze every school, and I haven’t had the time.”
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 13, 2010, 05:43:38 PM
Underdog Wildcat has really busted onto the goEMAW scene
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on May 13, 2010, 06:16:42 PM
Quote
a 6-foot-8, 200-pound

 :)
 :alleyoop:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 13, 2010, 06:22:08 PM
Underdog Wildcat has really busted onto the goEMAW scene

qft.  his random Fla juco update in the 2010 thread was amazing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 13, 2010, 07:01:09 PM
Underdog Wildcat has really busted onto the goEMAW scene

pulling him from gpc was like taking nebraska.  getting bp would be a texas.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 13, 2010, 09:32:12 PM
Ever since I was a little kid, I'd always hoped my posting skills would one day be analogous to the storied program that is NUBB hoops. Thank you all for helping those dreams come true.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 13, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
Ever since I was a little kid, I'd always hoped my posting skills would one day be analogous to the storied program that is NUBB hoops. Thank you all for helping those dreams come true.

hey, 300 million dollar arena.


good job getting bossi's comments on williams.  no way bossi leaves a kc prospect out of the top 150 if he has a voice in it.  interesting to hear his thoughts on mcullough too.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 13, 2010, 09:44:22 PM
EBosshoops has been killin it on the national board ever since he joined Rivals, hope that can continue.

Convo referencing Nino and McCullough linked below. SOB, it's not free.

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=143042015&sid=910&tid=143042015&style=2&Override=1

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 13, 2010, 11:28:09 PM
EBosshoops has been killin it on the national board ever since he joined Rivals, hope that can continue.

Convo referencing Nino and McCullough linked below. SOB, it's not free.

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=143042015&sid=910&tid=143042015&style=2&Override=1



paraphrase? 

BTW, let me echo the other complimentary words...nice work.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on May 13, 2010, 11:35:37 PM
EBosshoops has been killin it on the national board ever since he joined Rivals, hope that can continue.

Convo referencing Nino and McCullough linked below. SOB, it's not free.

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=143042015&sid=910&tid=143042015&style=2&Override=1



paraphrase? 

BTW, let me echo the other complimentary words...nice work.

word from a friend that said someone was curious if nino would be top 150? apparently bossi told the person that he would be in the discussion and that bossi sees him as a 3 and that he is good inside and around the glass. apparently also said that nino has improved his shot and that kstate fans will really like him. also apparently talked about cauley being discussed as a top 150. again, i'm just going of what someone told me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 13, 2010, 11:43:18 PM
Quote
KSU coaches are quite confident that Nino will clear the Clearinging House this summer and will redshirt the 2010-2011 season.

random gpc post.  i'm a sucker for these.  if samuels was emaw enough to do it w. out of state tuition, why would williams lack the emaw to walk-on/red-shirt instate?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 13, 2010, 11:50:12 PM
it's official, w. martin is a mention.

Quote
Wayne Martin listed KSU. Frank Martin recruits Fla well. Martin is a nice player, superb athlete.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on May 14, 2010, 08:39:35 AM
wayne martin thread with some nice information, sorry if it was already posted, I didn't want to take the time to look back and find out.

http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=12218 (http://www.illinoisloyalty.com/Forums/showthread.php?t=12218)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on May 14, 2010, 08:52:55 AM
Quote
KSU coaches are quite confident that Nino will clear the Clearinging House this summer and will redshirt the 2010-2011 season.

random gpc post.  i'm a sucker for these.  if samuels was emaw enough to do it w. out of state tuition, why would williams lack the emaw to walk-on/red-shirt instate?

I am also a sucker for this stuff(cue Chum).  Pretty much a best case senario.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 14, 2010, 03:07:22 PM
ar-t making his 2010 aau debut?   :runaway:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 14, 2010, 03:07:54 PM
ar-t making his 2010 aau debut?   :runaway:

 :runaway:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 14, 2010, 03:36:25 PM
 :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on May 14, 2010, 03:39:36 PM
ar-t making his 2010 aau debut?   :runaway:

not with Tropics???   :frown:

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?sid=910&fid=103&tid=143070504&mid=143070504
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on May 14, 2010, 03:48:20 PM
Does this explain Betancourt?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 14, 2010, 04:21:28 PM
Does this explain Betancourt?

wut?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 15, 2010, 09:31:52 AM
ar-t making his 2010 aau debut?   :runaway:

noyhing in rivals report on last nights games   :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2010, 10:15:24 AM
Cassidy is supposed to talk to Art today or something
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 15, 2010, 04:19:15 PM
ar-t making his 2010 aau debut?   :runaway:

noyhing in rivals report on last nights games   :users:


Quote
Nike Team Florida played without Scottie Wilbekin (6-2, 180, Gainesville, FL The Rock School) in its win over Seattle-based Friends of Hoop. Wilbekin will fly in tonight and will be available the remaining three games of the weekend. In his absence, Nike Team Florida split time between Will Cummings (6-0, 160, Jacksonville, FL Providence) and Angel Rodriguez (5-11, 165, Miami, FL Dr. Krop).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 15, 2010, 04:51:35 PM
noy exactly glowing is it?

where'd u find that?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 15, 2010, 05:41:07 PM
noy exactly glowing is it?

where'd u find that?

just based on one game, but yeah, didn't seem to stand out.  there's another dr. krop'r on ntf, btw.


http://memphisroar.com/2010/05/nike-eybl-houston-day-1-notes/

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2010, 05:44:35 PM
So, is he not a Trop or can you run with both?  VLAAUIQ here. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 15, 2010, 05:57:23 PM
Cummings stood out.


Quote
Surprise Player

Will Cummings (Jacksonville, Fla./Providence)
2011 PG, 6-0, 160
Team: Team Florida
Cummings displayed great speed and quickness throughout the game. He played in full attack-mode and got to the rim in transition and from the point in the half-court set. He beat his defender with a quick first step and finished with excellent touch and body control. Cummings advanced the ball on the break and also did a nice job of penetrating and dishing to an open teammate. He has improved his midrange jumper and can even hit an open 3 with needed time and space, but this is still an area that he needs to work on with a sense of urgency. Cummings has shown notable improvement since I last saw him, especially with his shooting. He plays with energy and makes his presence felt on the defensive end. Cummings pressures the ball and is fully alert in the passing lanes. Currently Cummings is hearing from Jacksonville, North Florida, Central Florida, Fairfield, East Carolina and Old Dominion. If Cummings improves, expect this list to grow.

 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 15, 2010, 06:12:58 PM
So, is he not a Trop or can you run with both?  VLAAUIQ here. 

alvarez is really good at the giving ridic quotes & flying out on school visits with players part of his job.  he seems less interested in the taking a group of kids to play bball on weekends part.  i have no idea when the tropics last played in a tourney.

players can switch whenever they want.  sometimes can play for two different teams at the same tourney.  if alavarez ever decides that the tropics should play bball again, i'm sure ar-t will run with them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2010, 06:16:01 PM
So, is he not a Trop or can you run with both?  VLAAUIQ here. 

alvarez is really good at the giving ridic quotes & flying out on school visits with players part of his job.  he seems less interested in the taking a group of kids to play bball on weekends part.  i have no idea when the tropics last played in a tourney.

players can switch whenever they want.  sometimes can play for two different teams at the same tourney.  if alavarez ever decides that the tropics should play bball again, i'm sure ar-t will run with them.

Yeah, thanks.  Did Mayo or someone else play with DCA or Mike play with someone else for a game and freaked us out one way or the other?  I seem to remember that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 15, 2010, 06:16:33 PM
Cummings stood out.

Quote
Surprise Player
Will Cummings (Jacksonville, Fla./Providence)
2011 PG, 6-0, 160
Team: Team Florida
Cummings displayed great speed and quickness throughout the game....

this is very painful to read, personally.  i have a large emotional investment in ar-t's success.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 15, 2010, 06:17:46 PM
Yeah, thanks.  Did Mayo or someone else play with DCA or Mike play with someone else for a game and freaked us out one way or the other?  I seem to remember that.

mayo played with the tropics for a tournament.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2010, 06:22:50 PM
Yeah, thanks.  Did Mayo or someone else play with DCA or Mike play with someone else for a game and freaked us out one way or the other?  I seem to remember that.

mayo played with the tropics for a tournament.

yeah, that's what I'm remembering
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 15, 2010, 06:24:12 PM
Cummings stood out.

Quote
Surprise Player
Will Cummings (Jacksonville, Fla./Providence)
2011 PG, 6-0, 160
Team: Team Florida
Cummings displayed great speed and quickness throughout the game....

this is very painful to read, personally.  i have a large emotional investment in ar-t's success.


Couldn't have gone worse.  One report saying he filled in for a rivals 2-star who couldn't make it and split time with a guy I'd never heard of.  Another report saying that guy I never heard of stood out.  Ar-t might just suck.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2010, 06:25:54 PM
 Ar-t might just suck.

My hopeful guess?  He can't speak english well enough to have mattered/played enough to matter
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 15, 2010, 06:52:06 PM
 Ar-t might just suck.

My hopeful guess?  He can't speak english well enough to have mattered/played enough to matter

My hope was that the evaluator was actually watching Ar-t and was confused.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 15, 2010, 08:06:41 PM
 Ar-t might just suck.

My hopeful guess?  He can't speak english well enough to have mattered/played enough to matter

My hope was that the evaluator was actually watching Ar-t and was confused.

ohhhh, good one
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 15, 2010, 09:20:44 PM
My hope was that the evaluator was actually watching Ar-t and was confused.

ohhhh, good one

sounds like that's probably what it was.

Quote
Rodriguez's summer coach Tom Topping absolutely loves the kid and thinks he's high major all the way.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 16, 2010, 09:26:48 AM
Quote
Most observers believe Will Cummings (6-0, 160, Jacksonville, FL Providence) is about to go from mid-major to high major prospect. Against the Georgia Stars Saturday morning, Cummings had 12 points, five assists and six steals while teaming with Scottie Wilbekin in the Nike Team Florida backcourt.

Two other Nike Team Florida players getting plenty of interest are Chris Bryant (6-8, 185, Tallahassee, FL Rickards) and 2012 center prospect Ty Houghton (6-10, 210, Miami, FL Dr. Krop). Bryant ate up  with 13 points, nine rebounds, two assists, two steals and a blocked shot while holding Parker to four points. Houghton came off the bench to score six points, grab six rebounds and block three shots.


brutal.  at least some random poster said this:

Quote
I saw him play in Houston this weekend. He's real good player. Very solid PG, a little on the small side at about 5'11 but he's nice.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 16, 2010, 11:19:55 AM
Quote
Most observers believe Will Cummings (6-0, 160, Jacksonville, FL Providence) is about to go from mid-major to high major prospect. Against the Georgia Stars Saturday morning, Cummings had 12 points, five assists and six steals while teaming with Scottie Wilbekin in the Nike Team Florida backcourt.

Two other Nike Team Florida players getting plenty of interest are Chris Bryant (6-8, 185, Tallahassee, FL Rickards) and 2012 center prospect Ty Houghton (6-10, 210, Miami, FL Dr. Krop). Bryant ate up  with 13 points, nine rebounds, two assists, two steals and a blocked shot while holding Parker to four points. Houghton came off the bench to score six points, grab six rebounds and block three shots.


brutal.  at least some random poster said this:

Quote
I saw him play in Houston this weekend. He's real good player. Very solid PG, a little on the small side at about 5'11 but he's nice.

 :flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 16, 2010, 11:25:07 AM
The fact that we recruited well for one season and decent for another makes going back to sucking ass hurt all the more.  Better to have loved and lost or whatever. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 16, 2010, 11:37:58 AM
Well, looks like it's going to be 1988 all over again.  Well, it was fun.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2010, 08:29:31 AM
I guess this belongs here

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/17/kadeem-jack-mulling-his-options/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 17, 2010, 11:02:53 AM
the silver lining in the A-R-T sucking business is that I can probably say I told you so.  (go celebrate your Nino getting in the top 150 discussion, losers).

:frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
the silver lining in the A-R-T sucking business is that I can probably say I told you so.  (go celebrate your Nino getting in the top 150 discussion, losers).

:frown:

I'm not ready to bail on A-R-T yet.  Hoping to in your face your early in your facing of the rest of us.   :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 17, 2010, 11:17:39 AM
Hoping to in your face your early in your facing of the rest of us.   :frown:

Yeah, I hope so, too.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on May 17, 2010, 12:08:43 PM
So it looks like it isn't our beat writers' fault. Our coaching staff just really isn't out there recruiting... :blindfold:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 17, 2010, 12:28:17 PM
Brief update on Suarez from UGa Rivals site, reporting from Houston EYBL tourney this past weekend where he ran with the Georgia Stars, summarizing:

He played his best coming off the bench, bringing energy and good outside shooting. Knocked down 4 treys in 1 game and at least 3 in another this past weekend. Solid all-around game, looks like a "mid-major plus prospect"

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1085363
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2010, 05:10:23 PM
Well, sucky or not, sounds like he's ours :dunno:

Quote
robcassidy22
Unless a letter is signed, there are no "done deals" in basketball recruiting, but this is as close as it gets. http://tinyurl.com/29vphf5
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2010, 05:13:55 PM
Also :dunno:

Quote from:  Jerry Meyer
Nice looking player. Strong, solid and competitive.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 17, 2010, 05:52:19 PM
Well, sucky or not, sounds like he's ours :dunno:

Quote
robcassidy22 t
Unless a letter is signed, there are no "done deals" in basketball recruiting, but this is as close as it gets. http://tinyurl.com/29vphf5

He's pretty much ours.  At least he'll likely sign in the fall.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on May 17, 2010, 06:42:01 PM
Well, sucky or not, sounds like he's ours :dunno:

Quote
robcassidy22 t
Unless a letter is signed, there are no "done deals" in basketball recruiting, but this is as close as it gets. http://tinyurl.com/29vphf5

He's pretty much ours.  At least he'll likely sign in the fall.


Long time lurker here....

Isn't Angel supposed to be pretty darn good?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 17, 2010, 06:53:33 PM
Well, sucky or not, sounds like he's ours :dunno:

Quote
robcassidy22 t
Unless a letter is signed, there are no "done deals" in basketball recruiting, but this is as close as it gets. http://tinyurl.com/29vphf5

He's pretty much ours.  At least he'll likely sign in the fall.


Long time lurker here....

Isn't Angel supposed to be pretty darn good?  :dunno:

recent scary evidence has raised doubts  :runaway:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on May 17, 2010, 06:58:22 PM
Angel- what will be his rivals ranking
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 17, 2010, 07:30:01 PM
My bet would be that ARod will end up a 3*. Now will he be a 3* in the Top 150? Meyer's positive statement is givning me a little hope for that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on May 17, 2010, 09:16:48 PM
He's already a 3 star and I bet he'll stay a 3 star.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 17, 2010, 09:32:25 PM
Also :dunno:

Quote from:  Jerry Meyer
Nice looking player. Strong, solid and competitive.

Reads like a guy who just doesn't want to hurt our feelings.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 18, 2010, 08:01:21 AM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs533.snc3/30260_390876740473_683040473_4599202_3465539_n.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 18, 2010, 08:07:38 AM
Guess: Angel - #115, Nino - #95.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 18, 2010, 08:09:19 AM
Guess: Angel - #115, Nino - #95.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on May 18, 2010, 08:36:25 AM
Guess: Angel - #115, Nino - #95.

 :surprised:

I'd take that.  Denis was within 10-15 spots of that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: canadian_breeze on May 18, 2010, 04:53:25 PM
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-sjc1/hs533.snc3/30260_390876740473_683040473_4599202_3465539_n.jpg)
who dis
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 18, 2010, 05:06:52 PM
nino
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2010, 09:29:55 PM
KSU mentions:

20. Cook
30. McLemore (we're listed but have no shot)
61. Harrison
67. Boatright (we're not listed, but he's really more realistic than McLemore)

:frown:

glad we're getting A-R-T, I guess.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/970939.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 18, 2010, 09:46:14 PM
Agreed on McLemore, NO shot with him.

Not offering Boatright yet, I can understand. I love his game, but he's 1 tiny fracker. Don't think it's a great idea to sign 2 sub 6 fters in 1 class(ART being the other).

The more we slow play Harrison though, the more I cringe. From what I've read, he sounds like a high-scoring combo G, similar to Cook. Hope we're not putting all our eggs in the Cook basket, if that is the case, I think we all know how that's going to end up.

I'll see if I can get Telep to comment on Nino and ART.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 18, 2010, 09:48:45 PM
Agreed on McLemore, NO shot with him.

Not offering Boatright yet, I can understand. I love his game, but he's 1 tiny fracker. Don't think it's a great idea to sign 2 sub 6 fters in 1 class(ART being the other).

The more we slow play Harrison though, the more I cringe. From what I've read, he sounds like a high-scoring combo G, similar to Cook. Hope we're not putting all our eggs in the Cook basket, if that is the case, I think we all know how that's going to end up.

I'll see if I can get Telep to comment on Nino and ART.

I thought we offered boatright.  Slow playing Harrison is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 18, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
Neither Boat's Scout or Rivals profile shows an offer from us. Cassidy did do an update with him about 1 mo ago that said we were in his Top 5 but didn't specifically say we'd offered. If there's any other info out there verifying the offer, it would be news to me.  :dunno:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Boatright-69049

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3203612
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 12:01:04 AM
i don't agree that kstate has no chance with mclemore.  low chance, but i don't think his recruitment is going to end soon.  lots of things could happen.  not sure another 2/3 is a high priority either.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 12:02:54 AM
Guess: Angel - #115, Nino - #95.

williams - 125ish on this first rivals list.  then will reclassify to 2010 and not be reranked.

ar-t - 75ish.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 19, 2010, 06:59:11 AM
Guess: Angel - #115, Nino - #95.

williams - 125ish on this first rivals list.  then will reclassify to 2010 and not be reranked.

ar-t - 75ish.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 19, 2010, 07:06:07 AM
i don't agree that kstate has no chance with mclemore.  low chance, but i don't think his recruitment is going to end soon.  lots of things could happen.  not sure another 2/3 is a high priority either.

We haven't recruited him, he's top 30, we're done.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on May 19, 2010, 09:21:50 AM
Nino Williams- your a 4 star in my eyes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2010, 10:57:35 AM
Quote from:  e-mail I got
seen Angel many times, helped him get on NIKE Team Florida (as NTF does not
have many South Florida players) that is based in St. Pete!

NOT as fast as Clemente.....
@ same stage is more of a True Blue PG, better 3 ball shooter, plays for
FM former HC @ Miami Senior and he has "been yelled at", more overall
ball skills than DC!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 19, 2010, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from:  e-mail I got
seen Angel many times, helped him get on NIKE Team Florida (as NTF does not
have many South Florida players) that is based in St. Pete!

NOT as fast as Clemente.....
@ same stage is more of a True Blue PG, better 3 ball shooter, plays for
FM former HC @ Miami Senior and he has "been yelled at", more overall
ball skills than DC!

Nice work.

Quote
NOT as fast as Clemente.....

Who is?  We'll probably never have a guy that fast with the ball again.

 How legit is the e-mailer?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 19, 2010, 11:07:56 AM
Quote from:  e-mail I got
seen Angel many times, helped him get on NIKE Team Florida (as NTF does not
have many South Florida players) that is based in St. Pete!

NOT as fast as Clemente.....
@ same stage is more of a True Blue PG, better 3 ball shooter, plays for
FM former HC @ Miami Senior and he has "been yelled at", more overall
ball skills than DC!

Nice work.

Quote
NOT as fast as Clemente.....

Who is?  We'll probably never have a guy that fast with the ball again.

 How legit is the e-mailer?

One of the Best Prognosticators in recruiting out there.  JMHO.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on May 19, 2010, 11:55:12 AM
Quote from:  e-mail I got
seen Angel many times, helped him get on NIKE Team Florida (as NTF does not
have many South Florida players) that is based in St. Pete!

NOT as fast as Clemente.....
@ same stage is more of a True Blue PG, better 3 ball shooter, plays for
FM former HC @ Miami Senior and he has "been yelled at", more overall
ball skills than DC!

Nice work.

Quote
NOT as fast as Clemente.....

Who is?  We'll probably never have a guy that fast with the ball again.

 How legit is the e-mailer?

One of the Best Prognosticators in recruiting out there.  JMHO.

he has Better Posts about basketball recruiting than virtually any other contributor on KSU related message boards.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2010, 12:01:27 PM
His posting style is almost unBearable but I aPpreciate his insight
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 19, 2010, 12:38:31 PM
the clemente is fast schtick never ceases to amaze me
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 19, 2010, 01:06:24 PM
clemente is fast ...never ceases to amaze me

Agreed.  It's amazing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2010, 01:58:23 PM
Quote
Angel is Top 5-10 in Florida for 2011,
so assume that is Top 50-100 nationally*

sys has pointed out his tendnancy but he left that asterick out there like it was nothing.  It doesn't refer to anything.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 19, 2010, 02:02:21 PM
Quote
Angel is Top 5-10 in Florida for 2011,
so assume that is Top 50-100 nationally*

sys has pointed out his tendnancy but he left that asterick out there like it was nothing.  It doesn't refer to anything.

I've always figured him to be somewhere close to Larkin in the rankings, but this weekend did nothing to help my confidence.  Somebody should ask BP why it appears that he was the 3rd string PG for NTF last weekend.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2010, 02:07:22 PM
Quote
Angel is Top 5-10 in Florida for 2011,
so assume that is Top 50-100 nationally*

sys has pointed out his tendnancy but he left that asterick out there like it was nothing.  It doesn't refer to anything.

I've always figured him to be somewhere close to Larkin in the rankings, but this weekend did nothing to help my confidence.  Somebody should ask BP why it appears that he was the 3rd string PG for NTF last weekend.

Yes, somebody ask him this^

Also, he claims he's ranked below Rivers and Larkin at least partially because their dads are famous  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 03:23:24 PM
i don't agree that kstate has no chance with mclemore.  low chance, but i don't think his recruitment is going to end soon.  lots of things could happen.  not sure another 2/3 is a high priority either.

We haven't recruited him, he's top 30, we're done.

yeah, i'm not saying i think it is likely.  i'm just saying that i don't think his recruitment is over.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 03:27:24 PM
Somebody should ask BP why it appears that he was the 3rd string PG for NTF last weekend.

one of the guys in front of him is a semi-senior playing in his last aau tournament (i think).  ar-t just joined the team. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2010, 03:39:50 PM
Somebody should ask BP why it appears that he was the 3rd string PG for NTF last weekend.

one of the guys in front of him is a semi-senior playing in his last aau tournament (i think).  ar-t just joined the team. 

I'm sticking with my theory that he doesn't speak english well and they hadn't worked through that yet
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 03:50:16 PM
he seems to be very comfortable in english.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OregonSmock on May 19, 2010, 04:11:46 PM
i don't agree that kstate has no chance with mclemore.  low chance, but i don't think his recruitment is going to end soon.  lots of things could happen.  not sure another 2/3 is a high priority either.

We haven't recruited him, he's top 30, we're done.

yeah, i'm not saying i think it is likely.  i'm just saying that i don't think his recruitment is over.



McLemore is all but committed to KU at this point. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 19, 2010, 04:30:08 PM
he seems to be very comfortable in english.

damnit
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 04:33:22 PM
McLemore is all but committed to KU at this point. 

if he holds a legit ku offer, why hasn't he already committed?  his public statements would have led you to believe he would have jumped at such an offer.

plus he changed aau teams, and there's a lot of drama with regard to where he's going to go for his senior year.  i don't know what is going on with him, but there's something.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OregonSmock on May 19, 2010, 05:28:08 PM
His grades are a question.  Once he gets to Oak Hill Academy and straightens those out, I have a feeling KU will be ready to accept a commitment. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on May 19, 2010, 05:46:28 PM
His grades are a question.  Once he gets to Oak Hill Academy and straightens those out, I have a feeling KU will be ready to accept a commitment. 

I'm jealous that you guys "accept commiment(s)."  Would be sweet.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 06:07:36 PM
His grades are a question.

yes, that's the most probable explanation. but if that's the issue, why would ku wait till spring with crossed fingers?  he's good, but not that good.

heard he probably won't go to oak hill, btw.  drama.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OregonSmock on May 19, 2010, 06:10:55 PM
His grades are a question.

yes, that's the most probable explanation. but if that's the issue, why would ku wait till spring with crossed fingers?  he's good, but not that good.

heard he probably won't go to oak hill, btw.  drama.



He's supposed to be a 5-star when the new rankings come out.  Some people think he might even be top 10 overall. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 06:27:43 PM
Some people think he might even be top 10 overall. 

some people think he's #30.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OregonSmock on May 19, 2010, 06:34:06 PM
http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1080832 (http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1080832)


Quote
Furthermore, when the 2011 rankings are updated, McLemore, according to Rivals.com National Recruiting Analyst Jerry Meyer, will make the jump to five-star status.



(http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/897/942894.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on May 19, 2010, 06:44:17 PM
some people = 1 person?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on May 19, 2010, 06:46:44 PM
http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1080832 (http://kansas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1080832)


Quote
Furthermore, when the 2011 rankings are updated, McLemore, according to Rivals.com National Recruiting Analyst Jerry Meyer, will make the jump to five-star status.



(http://vmedia.rivals.com/uploads/897/942894.jpg)

#30 can be a 5 star.  

(http://media.scout.com/media/image/23/235187.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 09:28:50 PM
hey, look, bmw knows more about ku recruiting than we do.  if he's saying that ku doesn't have any other attractive options, and will wait around forever on this one guy who's an academic risk, ok.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 19, 2010, 09:39:38 PM
Quote
"Not every high school kid truly brings it every single time," Bossi said. "Nino brings it every single time. We're starting to toss around our 2011 rankings, and I'm going to be pushing for him pretty hard."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 19, 2010, 10:00:10 PM
i believe that.  i also believe that bossi is pretty good at what he does, and that williams is going to be an effective big 12 player.  but i also believe that if he'd have said: "nino is from leavenworth, like me. we're starting to toss around our 2011 rankings, and i'm going to be pushing for him pretty hard.", it would have been just as true.


nice to hear that kstate contacted jackson.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 20, 2010, 07:22:33 AM
nice to hear that kstate contacted jackson.

what did I miss?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 20, 2010, 10:00:12 AM
nice to hear that kstate contacted jackson.

what did I miss?

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-05-19/kc_classic_features_local_recruits
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: K-ST8ED on May 20, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
Nino Williams is now in the Rivals top 150!! :pbj: Number 102! :ksu:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-rivals150/2011 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-rivals150/2011)
 :bball:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 20, 2010, 04:34:29 PM
Quote from: gpc poster
Better than 50/50 proposition that Nino is on campus this fall. Coaches are confident he will make it through the clearinghouse and be at KSU for 2010-11. If this happens, he will redshirt for sure.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 20, 2010, 04:37:17 PM
Quote from: gpc poster
Better than 50/50 proposition that Nino is on campus this fall. Coaches are confident he will make it through the clearinghouse and be at KSU for 2010-11. If this happens, he will redshirt for sure.


is this what we want?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 20, 2010, 04:40:05 PM
Quote from: gpc poster
Better than 50/50 proposition that Nino is on campus this fall. Coaches are confident he will make it through the clearinghouse and be at KSU for 2010-11. If this happens, he will redshirt for sure.


is this what we want?

What's the downside?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 20, 2010, 04:41:36 PM
Quote from: gpc poster
Better than 50/50 proposition that Nino is on campus this fall. Coaches are confident he will make it through the clearinghouse and be at KSU for 2010-11. If this happens, he will redshirt for sure.


would be sad if Bossi's lobbying was for not.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 20, 2010, 04:42:34 PM
What's the downside?   :dunno:

can't blow up in rankings and decommit for michigancat to shove in our faces.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 20, 2010, 04:45:06 PM
What's the downside?   :dunno:

can't blow up in rankings and decommit for michigancat to shove in our faces.

Best of both: comes in late and stays in the '11 class a la Walker ...blows up over summer...we get to rub in Michigancat's face.   :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: canadian_breeze on May 20, 2010, 09:38:36 PM
the frank fit.. that should be like a t-shirt or sumtin
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on May 20, 2010, 09:51:39 PM
"Fit in or Quit"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The42Yardstick on May 20, 2010, 09:53:46 PM
"Fit in or Quit"

 :bball:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on May 20, 2010, 10:37:06 PM
"Fit in or Quit"

I'm thinking, "Fit In or shazbot! Off."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 20, 2010, 10:43:37 PM
"Fit in or Quit"

I'm thinking, "Fit In or shazbot! Off."

Why not just "Fit or Quit"?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 20, 2010, 11:27:18 PM
Quote from: he's rick ball, bitch*
Quote from: random emaw hero
if ar-t is so decent, why was he the 3rd string pg in for ntf in houston?

Angel is 4-5 hours away from most of NIKE Team Florida and had NEVER
practiced with them! Other PG is in his 3rd year with NTF*

AAU Coach said that he was VERY Pleased with Angel.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 21, 2010, 07:14:11 AM
That's at least somewhat comforting*
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on May 21, 2010, 07:20:54 AM
Terrible question from random emaw zero.  Who cares if he's decent?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 21, 2010, 01:29:38 PM
Should try to get him to transfer here

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/ci_15129829
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on May 21, 2010, 07:12:36 PM
scout says we've offered harrison   :dunno:

http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011 (http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WildcatNation on May 21, 2010, 08:31:30 PM
I understand their whole "fit" mentality, but if an upper echelon player is very interested in KSU, then why not get them to come here, and if they still are not the right "fit" they can ride the bench and/or transfer...the worst that could happen is having a superstar become a Wildcat...PLEASE OFFER DEANGELO KSU lol
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 21, 2010, 08:36:36 PM
scout says we've offered harrison   :dunno:

http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011 (http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011)

yeah.  that's been reported elsewhere too.  but him not having an offer makes for a much better narrative.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 21, 2010, 10:26:34 PM
scout says we've offered harrison   :dunno:

http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011 (http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=9&cfg=bb&c=4&yr=2011)

yeah.  that's been reported elsewhere too.  but him not having an offer makes for a much better narrative.

To be fair, there were reports last week specifically saying we have not offered even though we were a favorite.  I've not read a report saying we had offered yet.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 21, 2010, 10:56:29 PM
To be fair, there were reports last week specifically saying we have not offered even though we were a favorite.  I've not read a report saying we had offered yet.

good point about the meyers' update specifically mentioning a lack of offer.  here is the other offer report.

http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/04/16/fort_bend_sun/sports/sws_-_harrison_poty.txt
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 22, 2010, 03:53:08 AM
tons of great stuff here.  williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2010, 09:17:27 AM
tons of great stuff here.  williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036

I am pretty damn happy bossi got the rivals gig
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on May 22, 2010, 09:39:27 AM
tons of great stuff here.  williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036

I am pretty damn happy bossi got the rivals gig

its only right that the best (bossi) goes to work for the best (rivals).

kinda disappointing that no KSU elite camp mentions were given.  who's it going to be this year - nino, angel, corey hilliard and a bunch of lower-tier local kids?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 22, 2010, 09:40:40 AM
so dumb that D1 coaches aren't allowed at these anymore
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 22, 2010, 09:51:35 AM
More BallPlayers

Who do we have to blow to get this guy to post over here?

Quote
Re: PG is an ANGEL   
5th year Senior

Angel is better @ same stage

...J J Barea was/in NBA for several years

.......Top 100-150 IS from that AAU +/_ circuit!/*






Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2010, 09:56:28 AM
More BallPlayers

Who do we have to blow to get this guy to post over here?

iirc he was asked at some point to post on ksufans and said he didn't want to post on a free board or something.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on May 22, 2010, 10:10:42 AM
tons of great stuff here.  williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036

Getting more excited about Nino with each article. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on May 22, 2010, 10:18:04 AM
More BallPlayers

Who do we have to blow to get this guy to post over here?

iirc he was asked at some point to post on ksufans and said he didn't want to post on a free board or something.

So charge him $5 and act like everyone else is paying it too and then bring him over.  Every once and awhile I can bitch about the premium fee, but how I pay it anyway for quality sys/baylor hate just to throw him off of the scent.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 22, 2010, 10:38:29 AM
Quote
AaronsUKBBBlog
 
It’s highly doubtful that Calipari still has an interest — or a need – in Kadeem Jack

Don't know that Kadeem Jack updates are really relevant to us but I'm going to keep posting them for something to do
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on May 22, 2010, 12:01:45 PM
Quote
AaronsUKBBBlog
 
It’s highly doubtful that Calipari still has an interest — or a need – in Kadeem Jack

Don't know that Kadeem Jack updates are really relevant to us but I'm going to keep posting them for something to do

That's a mean trick...I saw your tweet and rushed over here hoping for some good news.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 22, 2010, 12:50:39 PM
tons of great stuff here.  williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036

Getting more excited about Nino with each article. 



Nino will be a four star before the summer is over.


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 22, 2010, 01:10:55 PM
tons of great stuff here.  williams/michigancat, staten, baylor and much more.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087036

Getting more excited about Nino with each article. 



Nino will be a four star before the summer is over.



i agree, he can play and his body is built on a whole different level than the kids around him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: K-ST8ED on May 22, 2010, 01:15:41 PM
I havent seen this before, but it sounds like we are recruiting Thomas Gipson, per Autin Meek. 6-7" Forward. Here is a copy of the article.

 Thomas Gipson
EMAIL | PRINT  | COMMENT | SHARE

Maybe it's the beard, maybe it's the game, but it's hard to watch Thomas Gipson without picturing Damion James.

He gets that a lot.

Gipson, a 2011 power forward, is playing with Team Texas at this weekend's Kansas City Classic. Team Texas coach Ray Forsett mentioned Gipson was looking at K-State, so we got the run-down on the 6-foot-7 forward.

Gipson listed his favorites as K-State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma. He'll probably wait until fall to pick a school, but he likes Frank Martin and K-State's style of play.

Gipson describes his game like this: "Very physical in the paint, hard-nosed, dominant." Sounds about right. Gipson might be an inch or two shorter than teammate Zach Peters, a KU commit, but he's every bit as thick.

Rivals and Scout rank Gipson as a three-star prospect, and he was No. 128 in Rivals' latest 150. We'll leave the evaluations to the professionals, but Gipson definitely looks like a high-major player. Keep an eye on this guy
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 22, 2010, 01:39:15 PM
I havent seen this before, but it sounds like we are recruiting Thomas Gipson, per Autin Meek. 6-7" Forward. Here is a copy of the article.

 Thomas Gipson
EMAIL | PRINT  | COMMENT | SHARE

Maybe it's the beard, maybe it's the game, but it's hard to watch Thomas Gipson without picturing Damion James.

He gets that a lot.

Gipson, a 2011 power forward, is playing with Team Texas at this weekend's Kansas City Classic. Team Texas coach Ray Forsett mentioned Gipson was looking at K-State, so we got the run-down on the 6-foot-7 forward.

Gipson listed his favorites as K-State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma. He'll probably wait until fall to pick a school, but he likes Frank Martin and K-State's style of play.

Gipson describes his game like this: "Very physical in the paint, hard-nosed, dominant." Sounds about right. Gipson might be an inch or two shorter than teammate Zach Peters, a KU commit, but he's every bit as thick.

Rivals and Scout rank Gipson as a three-star prospect, and he was No. 128 in Rivals' latest 150. We'll leave the evaluations to the professionals, but Gipson definitely looks like a high-major player. Keep an eye on this guy

Not a new name, but new info.  And fuel to the fire of my dream class.   :pray:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 22, 2010, 03:28:46 PM
top 4 mention!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on May 22, 2010, 04:20:24 PM
top 4 mention!

Looks strong.  Decent ups.  Looks like a southpaw.

Probably a decent replacement for Kelly down the road.  After two or three years with SG, he'd look like an advertisement for Muscle Milk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 22, 2010, 05:12:42 PM
top 4 mention!

Looks strong.  Decent ups.  Looks like a southpaw.

Probably a decent replacement for Kelly down the road.  After two or three years with SG, he'd look like an advertisement for Muscle Milk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g)

For being 11 plus minutes of highlights, you sure don't get a lot of variety.  Obviously finishes strong at the rim, has some touch and lots of power.  Would have liked to see if he has any post moves, or can face up, or shoot. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on May 22, 2010, 06:11:16 PM
I was going to say the same thing. more of a low post type player. kelly has the ability to stretch defenders while this guy will be a guy you can give to on the low block and he gets it within 3 feet its an automatic two.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 22, 2010, 07:29:13 PM
top 4 mention!

And the other 3 were OU, Marquette, and WVU.  What, have OSU and Baylor not offered or something?  Gee whiz.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on May 23, 2010, 02:07:32 PM
top 4 mention!

Looks strong.  Decent ups.  Looks like a southpaw.

Probably a decent replacement for Kelly down the road.  After two or three years with SG, he'd look like an advertisement for Muscle Milk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g)

For being 11 plus minutes of highlights, you sure don't get a lot of variety.  Obviously finishes strong at the rim, has some touch and lots of power.  Would have liked to see if he has any post moves, or can face up, or shoot. 

I think I saw him make 2 jumpers from the free throw line vicinity, so he's obviously has the skillz, looks like he would "fit" (basically he is an amazingly handsome dude), was a little worried when i saw a picture of him with a longhorn logo on the shirt, but turns out his high school uses tejas logo for their logo, so we'll let it slide.

Has offers from okie state and smu, sooooo he's pretty much just waiting for a chance to be a emaw
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on May 25, 2010, 09:51:26 AM
Quote
Now he’s back to saying he will attend South Kent.

Jack Says It’s South Kent; Recruiting Roundup (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/24/jack-says-its-south-kent-recruiting-roundup/)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 25, 2010, 09:52:01 AM
Quote
Now he’s back to saying he will attend South Kent.

Jack Says It’s South Kent; Recruiting Roundup (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/24/jack-says-its-south-kent-recruiting-roundup/)

Man, he wants that EMAW offer bad
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on May 25, 2010, 10:49:16 AM
 :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 25, 2010, 09:43:01 PM
Angel get rated by ESPN.  It's embarassingly bad.   :embarrassed:

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=100506&season=2011&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d100506%26season%3d2011
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 25, 2010, 09:45:26 PM
Angel get rated by ESPN.  It's embarassingly bad.   :embarrassed:

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=100506&season=2011&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d100506%26season%3d2011

jesus
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 25, 2010, 09:49:04 PM
jesus christ, they make him sound like a fit recruit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 25, 2010, 11:27:47 PM
jesus christ, they make him sound like a fit recruit.

4 points lower than Irving, who was 2 points lower than any commit we've ever had rated.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 25, 2010, 11:41:07 PM
Quote
Miami has solidified its position at the top speedy point guard Ryan Boatright's school list. Kentucky, Georgetown, Illinois and Indiana are also showing various degrees of attention to Boatwright, but the recruiting effort Miami has been putting forth will be hard to beat.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1088149
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 26, 2010, 07:13:20 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 26, 2010, 07:19:49 AM
:lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 26, 2010, 07:20:33 AM
Good news bros (but not MICat), everyone on GPC says Angel is just rated low on ESPN because ESPN sucks at recruiting analysis.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 26, 2010, 07:26:44 AM
Quote
Miami has solidified its position at the top speedy point guard Ryan Boatright's school list. Kentucky, Georgetown, Illinois and Indiana are also showing various degrees of attention to Boatwright, but the recruiting effort Miami has been putting forth will be hard to beat.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1088149

gotdam  :curse:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on May 26, 2010, 07:52:27 AM
Good news bros (but not MICat), everyone on GPC says Angel is just rated low on ESPN because ESPN sucks at recruiting analysis.  

ESPN has pretty good analysts, but they are basing their ranking of him off the one tournament they've seen him at this summer.  A kid who dominated the miami prep scene this past summer, went tit for tat with Shane Larkin and has offers from Miami and NC State isn't an 82.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 26, 2010, 08:10:20 AM
Good news bros (but not MICat), everyone on GPC says Angel is just rated low on ESPN because ESPN sucks at recruiting analysis.  

ESPN has pretty good analysts, but they are basing their ranking of him off the one tournament they've seen him at this summer.  A kid who dominated the miami prep scene this past summer, went tit for tat with Shane Larkin and has offers from Miami and NC State isn't an 82.

What else would they rate the third string PG on a medicore AAU team?   :dunno:

(agree that he's not really an 82)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 26, 2010, 08:15:37 AM
Good news bros (but not MICat), everyone on GPC says Angel is just rated low on ESPN because ESPN sucks at recruiting analysis. 

ESPN has pretty good analysts, but they are basing their ranking of him off the one tournament they've seen him at this summer.  A kid who dominated the miami prep scene this past summer, went tit for tat with Shane Larkin and has offers from Miami and NC State isn't an 82.

What else would they rate the third string PG on a medicore AAU team?   :dunno:

(agree that he's not really an 82)
100
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 26, 2010, 08:16:43 AM
If the best prognosticator did HS ratings for the public he'd be like 105.6.  That's all I need to know.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 26, 2010, 08:18:39 AM
If the best prognosticator did HS ratings for the public he'd be like 105.6.  That's all I need to know.

Would really like to see somebody besides BP and Alvarez heap praise on AR-T.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on May 26, 2010, 09:11:59 AM
If the best prognosticator did HS ratings for the public he'd be like 105.6.  That's all I need to know.

Would really like to see somebody besides BP and Alvarez heap praise on AR-T.

yeah
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 26, 2010, 09:22:55 AM
If the best prognosticator did HS ratings for the public he'd be like 105.6.  That's all I need to know.

Would really like to see somebody besides BP and Alvarez heap praise on AR-T.

eric bossi said tom topping said he "loves him"  and that he's a definite high-major.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 26, 2010, 09:27:10 AM
ESPN has pretty good analysts, but they are basing their ranking of him off the one tournament they've seen him at this summer.  A kid who dominated the miami prep scene this past summer, went tit for tat with Shane Larkin and has offers from Miami and NC State isn't an 82.

What else would they rate the third string PG on a medicore AAU team?   :dunno:

(agree that he's not really an 82)

agree, agree and agree.  except, not with ntf being mediocre.  not top 5/10 maybe, but their record in neybl indicates that they're among the nation's best.  maybe no elite prospects, but a very solid team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 26, 2010, 09:32:37 AM
4 points lower than Irving, who was 2 points lower than any commit we've ever had rated.

i think mitchell's initial rating was 88.  maybe 86.  iirc.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on May 26, 2010, 10:04:25 AM
4 points lower than Irving, who was 2 points lower than any commit we've ever had rated.

i think mitchell's initial rating was 88.  maybe 86.  iirc.

this.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 26, 2010, 01:24:14 PM
Bosi basically just summing up what he wrote already but kinda organized or whatever

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1087964

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1. Nino Williams
 SF, 6-5, Mo-Kan Elite
Had an MVP been handed out for the event, the future K-State Wildcat would have been a lock for the award. A bruising wing who likes to create contact and slash to the rim, he's a top-notch transition finisher. His jumper - which still has a small hitch on the setup - is something that defenders have to respect out to the 3-point line and he makes tough shots when his team needs them. He's consistently improved his overall game and tightening his handle is next on his list.



Quote from:  wrong thread, I know
4. Willie Cauley
 C, 6-10, Mo-Kan Elite 16's
At this point, you can't really count on Cauley for consistent offensive production. Some of that is his fault for not always working hard enough, some of it is on his teammates for missing him in the post. Regardless, it's about long term projection with Cauley. He already blocks a lot of shots, can dominate on the glass in stretches and he moves very, very well for a guy his size. He does have some offensive talent, good feet and soft hands. Clearly a high major prospect who has heard early from Arizona, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma State, Indiana, Notre Dame, California, Nebraska and others.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on May 26, 2010, 05:32:01 PM
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Nino is gonna be here next year!   Reply
I live in lansing and nino lives up the street from me. He's been showing up to the rec daily. He is only 6'5 on a good day (probably closer to 6'3). He plays like a truck in the lane and his jumper is getting better. Talked to him about weither he is coming to ksu next year instead of prep school and he said he will for sure be at ksu for next year!!!
:surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheMadCatter on May 26, 2010, 05:59:44 PM
 :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 26, 2010, 06:17:02 PM
 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on May 26, 2010, 11:07:21 PM
new name to keep an eye on - jerome seagears
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 26, 2010, 11:12:52 PM
new name to keep an eye on - jerome seagears

Anything concrete or just that he's DCA/Florida.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: theswo on May 26, 2010, 11:17:13 PM
new name to keep an eye on - jerome seagears
Another point guard?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on May 26, 2010, 11:28:21 PM
new name to keep an eye on - jerome seagears

Anything concrete or just that he's DCA/Florida.

don't know if you can read this, but:
Mention (http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=2&c=972676&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/972676.html)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 26, 2010, 11:36:19 PM
new name to keep an eye on - jerome seagears

Anything concrete or just that he's DCA/Florida.

don't know if you can read this, but:
Mention (http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=2&c=972676&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/972676.html)

can't read, but you answered my question just the same.  Thanks
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 26, 2010, 11:47:44 PM
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Surprise player

Jerome Seagears, PG (6-3, 175)
2011, District of Columbia/Flora MacDonald


Seagears is a dynamic point guard who consistently produced against solid competition. He scored 26 impressive points in a tightly contested loss to United Faith Christian. He is a long, athletic leader with good size that gets it down the floor in a hurry and is great at finding a seam to attack the basket. He is nearly impossible to stop in the open floor. He can go strong with either hand and is great at adjusting and changing direction in an instant. He showed a nice stroke from deep and makes his free throws like a good point guard is supposed to do. He is a good defender who can extend pressure up the floor while containing the ball. A competitor that hates to lose, he plays with a high level of intensity and brings it for 32 minutes each time he takes the floor. He needs to improve at drawing the defense and finding an open teammate, but he showed that he should be able to make the adjustment.

sounds like a good fit (lols).  ESPN has rated at 91.  Also in the current rivals 150.  Another good PG prospect.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 27, 2010, 12:45:17 PM
FWIW, in Scout update referenced by treysolid above, Seagers lists Missouri(offer) as his leader and offers from George Mason, George Washington, UMass, and Florida

Blurb on Seagers from I95Ballerz.com reporting from recent Take Your Best Shot tourney in DCA area pasted below. Article puts him on 2nd team all-tourney. He plays alongside Cook in DCA backcourt, who won MVP. Article also mentions Jarvis Threatt of the VA Assault, who we are listed with in the Rivals database and was named to 1st team all-tourney.

"Jerome Seagears – junior, 6’1”, 175 lb guard, DC Assault Gold – Currently a combo guard, Seagears understands he must become more of a pass first guy for the highest rungs of college ball. Currently, he’s a scorer that can pass, and boy can he do the former; from outside, at the rim, and in between."

http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20tybs%2010%2017%20all%20star.html

Another blurb from a Rivals update in January:

"Jerome Seagears: Seagers is a big point guard who showed a great ability to get from baseline to baseline off the dribble in an absolute hurry. He did play out of control at times, but his combination of size and speed definitely makes him intriguing. Largely on the strength of his foul shooting Seagears managed to finish with 21 points, 10 rebounds, and four assists. He was definitely impressive with his motor and quickness. He now needs to improve on his outside shot."

http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1041134
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 27, 2010, 09:26:34 PM
Jack piece that mentions Kelly in passing.  Weird.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/27/new-rice-coach-confirms-jack-to-south-kent/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 28, 2010, 06:13:40 PM
Jack piece that mentions Kelly in passing.  Weird.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/05/27/new-rice-coach-confirms-jack-to-south-kent/

Liked the player quote - great writing

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Reached earlier this week by text, Jack confirmed that he would indeed spend a year at prep school.

“Yea,” he wrote.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on May 30, 2010, 07:13:13 AM
elite new mention.   :excited:

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Dorian Finney-Smith, SF, Boo Williams- Should he replicate what he did on Saturday for the rest of the summer, Finney-Smith is poised to make a climb up the 2011 rankings. A skinny wing with quickness, athleticism and a surprising floor game, he's looking confident right now and is playing in attack mode. He is a slasher by nature who makes just enough shots to keep defenders honest. Saturday, he even ran some point and showed surprising feel for the position. He listed Kansas, Kansas State, Tennessee, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Maryland, Florida, Xavier and Cincinnati as his current suitors.


http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1089368

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Dorian-Finney-Smith-96633
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on May 30, 2010, 12:10:15 PM
2011 DC Assault updates:

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Quinn Cook (2011 DC Assault)- This heady combo guard makes me think of Scottie Reynolds when I watch him. He quietly can control a game with his composed and skilled play. Rarely does he over do it, but yet the production is there. Crafty and strong with the ball, Cook is a serious threat to score from all three levels.

Jerome Seagears (2011 DC Assault)- Seagears spent most of the time running the point for DC Assault, and he was impressive. Powerfully built, Seagears got where he wanted to get on the court and found open teammates in the process. He also looked comfortable shooting the ball from behind the arc.

Presently a ranked three-star prospect, Seagears might be due a bump in the rankings.

Marcus Thornton (2011 DC Assault)- Liked what Thornton did on the wing as a scorer, playing off the creativity of Cook and Seagers.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1089373 (http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1089373)

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 31, 2010, 11:52:51 AM
Thornton?  i like this kid already (i bet he's hot too).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 31, 2010, 07:05:39 PM
Not that there is anything in the following Scout update that hasn't been implied before, it's just that Cook's lack of interest in us has never sounded more definitive:

"Quinn Cook, a self described ACC guy, said UCLA and Arizona were on him strong. Villanova, North Carolina, Wake Forest, Georgetown , N.C. State, Kentucky and Washington were in the mix. Duke stays in touch. "

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/973521.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Winters on May 31, 2010, 07:10:19 PM
Thornton?  i like this kid already (i bet he's hot too).
LOL?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 31, 2010, 07:17:20 PM
Don't like this development 1 damn bit:

"Kadeem Jack says that he plans to attend elite camps at Arizona and Kansas coming up this summer, and also might visit Rutgers next week. Beyond those three schools he mentioned Arkansas, Miami, Syracuse, West Virginia, St. John's, Kentucky, Georgetown, Memphis, and that he has spoken to North Carolina."

In case you don't want to read the entire update(I don't blame you if you don't, it's freakin long), Jack is now running with the New England Playaz

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1089349


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 31, 2010, 07:25:52 PM
Scout's Evan Daniels liked what he saw out of Thomas Gipson this weekend at the EYBL tourney in LA. Paraphrasing, he's an undersized PF height wise but he overcomes that by working hard on both ends. Clears space with his wide frame and is using that frame to attack the glass and finish in the paint. Also knocked down a couple face up looks from mid-range.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/973716.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on May 31, 2010, 09:11:00 PM
Scout's Evan Daniels liked what he saw out of Thomas Gipson this weekend at the EYBL tourney in LA. Paraphrasing, he's an undersized PF height wise but he overcomes that by working hard on both ends. Clears space with his wide frame and is using that frame to attack the glass and finish in the paint. Also knocked down a couple face up looks from mid-range.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/973716.html

I really like this kid.  He has a really nice back-to-the-basket game, and if he develops a short-to-mid range jumper, he could be a really nice addition.  His size (or lack thereof) would almost guarantee he'll be at KSU for four years.

Also, he has the ability to put a lot of muscle on his frame, and I'd love to see what a monster he'd look like after spending a couple of years with SG.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 01, 2010, 07:20:03 AM
Don't like this development 1 damn bit:

"Kadeem Jack says that he plans to attend elite camps at Arizona and Kansas coming up this summer, and also might visit Rutgers next week. Beyond those three schools he mentioned Arkansas, Miami, Syracuse, West Virginia, St. John's, Kentucky, Georgetown, Memphis, and that he has spoken to North Carolina."

In case you don't want to read the entire update(I don't blame you if you don't, it's freakin long), Jack is now running with the New England Playaz

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1089349

It's pretty easy to take though as we've never been mentioned with him, other than him being friends with Shane.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on June 02, 2010, 09:19:59 AM
BP at GPC:
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Re: Juevol Myles   Reply
Nino could be a part-time student and "gray-shirt", but he could do NOTHING
related to the MBB program...NO "clock" starts!

Likely develop better @ a Prep by practicing/playing...then still have 5 years to play 4*

YES, Juevol needs 1 summer session, then has 3 years to play.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on June 02, 2010, 09:22:17 AM
More BP

Quote
NIKE Team Florida   
...went 2-3 in L.A. last weekend (9-5 for the Spring), their Coach said that
Angel was one of their Top 2 Players for the Weekend!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 02, 2010, 09:23:16 AM
can someone get him to post here??  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on June 02, 2010, 09:43:31 AM
can someone get him to post here??  :crossfingers:

Wabash909 knows him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 02, 2010, 10:39:55 AM
I still don't get why Nino wouldn't be able to Redshirt during the '10-'11 season if he's able to fully qualify. He would basically be a walk-on who's allowed to workout and practice with the team. He could make substantial improvements during that hypothetical RS year and would be ready to roll in '11-'12. If he's on campus, you might as well have him to connected to the team as much as possible.

I directly asked BP this in response to the above statement and have yet to receive a response.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2010, 10:42:35 AM
I still don't get why Nino wouldn't be able to Redshirt during the '10-'11 season if he's able to fully qualify. He would basically be a walk-on who's allowed to workout and practice with the team. He could make substantial improvements during that hypothetical RS year and would be ready to roll in '11-'12. If he's on campus, you might as well have him to connected to the team as much as possible.

I directly asked BP this in response to the above statement and have yet to receive a response.
for Nino this makes the most sense given that RS's do practice with the team.  my ill informed guess is that frank is probably trying (or was trying) to manage his roster around some issues we dont know about.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on June 02, 2010, 10:48:39 AM
nino would have to pay his own way, right?  last schollie went to that there canadian feller
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 02, 2010, 10:50:59 AM
nino would have to pay his own way, right?

yep, I lol at the talking point on GPC about how kids are stupid to not take out loans and pay their own way for a year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on June 02, 2010, 02:14:53 PM
nino would have to pay his own way, right?  last schollie went to that there canadian feller
he has little to gain from beating up on prep schoolers for a year
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on June 02, 2010, 02:18:58 PM
nino would have to pay his own way, right?  last schollie went to that there canadian feller
he has little to gain from beating up on prep schoolers for a year

true.  what's in state tuition these days?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: NumberThree on June 02, 2010, 03:29:01 PM
My Bob Gibbons update:

http://truebluekentucky.com/index.php/basketball/926-guest-basketball/3235-bob-gibbons.html


I'm posting it here because I see you were talking about Seagears.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 02, 2010, 03:33:53 PM
My Bob Gibbons update:

http://truebluekentucky.com/index.php/basketball/926-guest-basketball/3235-bob-gibbons.html


I'm posting it here because I see you were talking about Seagears.

good stuff...welcome.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 02, 2010, 03:36:03 PM
My Bob Gibbons update:

http://truebluekentucky.com/index.php/basketball/926-guest-basketball/3235-bob-gibbons.html


I'm posting it here because I see you were talking about Seagears.

Thanks, welcome to the board
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 02, 2010, 04:13:35 PM
My Bob Gibbons update:

http://truebluekentucky.com/index.php/basketball/926-guest-basketball/3235-bob-gibbons.html


I'm posting it here because I see you were talking about Seagears.

NumberThree,  Thanks for that great report.

Did you get a chance to watch Ian Baker from the Heart and Hustle 16's this past weekend?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 02, 2010, 07:11:19 PM
I still don't get why Nino wouldn't be able to Redshirt during the '10-'11 season if he's able to fully qualify. He would basically be a walk-on who's allowed to workout and practice with the team. He could make substantial improvements during that hypothetical RS year and would be ready to roll in '11-'12. If he's on campus, you might as well have him to connected to the team as much as possible.

I directly asked BP this in response to the above statement and have yet to receive a response.

bp responded now.  he seems to be thinking that williams wouldn't be able to receive any non-athletic financial aid, since he was a recruited athlete in a revenue sport.  those rules are complex, and there are loopholes, but he's probably right.

afaik, however, there would be no impediment to williams walking on and rsing if his guardian was paying the bill.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 06, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1091320

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D'Angelo Harrison has earned some impressive offers so far (Alabama, Arizona State, Oklahoma State), but do you think with his recent breakout play on the AAU circuit that his offer list will grow even more impressive than it is now? Am I crazy, or does he have some Stephen Curry to his game?

- Greg from Hutchinson


Harrison was one of the most impressive prospects I watched this spring. He is an absolute scoring machine.

I like the Curry comparison because there is not much physically about Harrison that catches your eyes. But once the game starts, he scores bucket after bucket. He doesn't need much of a window to get a shot off, and he can score in a variety of ways.

I have no doubt that his offer list will grow dramatically once the coaches get out in July.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 06, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
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Quinn Cook, PG- The Hyatsville (Md.) Dematha standout was easily one of the best scorers on the floor Friday night. He's neither super quick or athletic, but the six footer is very crafty and skilled with the ball. He hit on jumpers, some tough drives in transition and dribble pull-ups. His game features lots of spin and hesitation moves that he's able to pull off without losing balance because of his superior body control.

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Speed is a virtue at the point guard position and Jerome Seagears has plenty of it. The the six foot tall floor general from Flora McDonald in Red Springs, N.C. is a jet with the ball who weaves in and out of traffic and shows tremendous burst to the rim in pick and roll situations.

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Isaiah Austin wasn't on the court we were focusing on, but we saw him making lots of plays. He hit on a nifty step-back three and a tough jump hook, but most importantly he was imposing defensively. Saw him block and alter a ton of shots.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1091354


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Jerome Seagears - A physical point guard in the 2011 class, Seagears has command of the game with the ball in his hands. Love his pace when attacking on the high-ball screen.

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Quinn Cook will stick around Sunday and visit UCLA before heading to Arizona on Monday. He is contemplating nine schools, including North Carolina, Wake Forest, Villanova, Georgetown, Rutgers, St. John's and North Carolina State. All but North Carolina have offered.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1091351
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 06, 2010, 08:00:21 PM
new name & durham to '11.

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Cannen Cunningham-(2011-Brandon Bass Elite) is blessed with a ton of upside. He can score the basketball from inside and out. Cunningham is very skilled and athletic power forward with a lot of untapped potential. He has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Santa Clara, SMU and Wichita State and receiving strong interest from Kansas State, Purdue, Texas, and Ohio State.

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Terrence Durham-(2011-Memphis Elite) the one-time 2010 recruit will be reclassifying and will be attending North Carolina Prep. Durham has offers from Ole Miss, Nebraska, and Wichita State and is also receiving interest from Tennessee and Kansas State.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1091098
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on June 06, 2010, 10:50:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5yTnLhfOO0

Durham has a bit of flash to his game
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on June 07, 2010, 07:04:50 AM
new name & durham to '11.

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Cannen Cunningham-(2011-Brandon Bass Elite) is blessed with a ton of upside. He can score the basketball from inside and out. Cunningham is very skilled and athletic power forward with a lot of untapped potential. He has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Santa Clara, SMU and Wichita State and receiving strong interest from Kansas State, Purdue, Texas, and Ohio State.

brandon bass?  that just means we won't get him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on June 07, 2010, 11:22:46 AM
new name & durham to '11.

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Cannen Cunningham-(2011-Brandon Bass Elite) is blessed with a ton of upside. He can score the basketball from inside and out. Cunningham is very skilled and athletic power forward with a lot of untapped potential. He has offers from Arizona State, Arkansas, Santa Clara, SMU and Wichita State and receiving strong interest from Kansas State, Purdue, Texas, and Ohio State.

brandon bass?  that just means we won't get him.

Well, who wants to play in the MWC anyways? :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 07, 2010, 03:40:30 PM
More glowing reviews for Austin and Seagears from Pangos, Gipson included in this report also. FWIW, the Scout updates from Pangos specifically mention KSU as a school of interest among others for both Seagears and Gipson.

Isaiah Austin (Arlington, Texas/Grace Prep)
2012, C, 7-0
He has a beautiful jumper and can easily knock it down from 17 feet. However, Austin settles too much for his jumper at times and he can dominate with his unstoppable right-handed jump hook over his left shoulder. At his height and length, he shoots it looking down at the basket and has a good release and rotation. His passing instincts are impressive and he can see over everyone and hit his open teammate. He is willing to rebound out of his area. After a defensive rebound, he is comfortable going the length of the floor with the ball in his hands. On the defensive end, he really changes, challenges and blocks shots.

Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Tex./ Cedar Hill)
2011, PF, 6-7
He is a blue-collar big that can step out and hit the jump shot at the elbow. The left-hander has extremely wide shoulders, solid length and decent bounce. Gipson has very good hands and was one of the best rebounders at the event. He snatches everything in his area and doesn't try to do too much. He is one of the few bigs in the country that knows his role. There is no wasted motion to his game and he's very effective. He can post up strong, utilizing his width, and he can finish consistently in the paint area. His post skills need continued repetition, but the talent is there.

"Point guard Jerome Seagears (Washington, D.C./Flora McDonald Academy) had a strong showing. He ran the floor well, scored the ball off the bounce or with the jumper and executed pick-and-rolls well. Schools he is hearing from are Florida, Rutgers, Seton Hall, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Boston College and Arizona."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5259917




Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 07, 2010, 06:20:19 PM
More BP

Quote
NIKE Team Florida   
...went 2-3 in L.A. last weekend (9-5 for the Spring), their Coach said that
Angel was one of their Top 2 Players for the Weekend!


apparently the uf signee is still playing for nike team florida.  so presumably he is the guy ahead of ar-t on topping's list.  i wouldn't think he'll still be playing this summer, so ar-t should get more minutes then.  but then, i wouldn't have thought he'd be playing now.  also, i think uf is starting to recruit ar-t, don't know how seriously.


btw, i think the recent spate of mentions puts to rest the ridiculous hypothesis that kstate was instructing recruits to keep silent.  as impossible as it would have seemed, it appears that the kstate beat writers and internet "recruiting" site writers really are that bad.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on June 08, 2010, 05:51:31 AM
way to go, shings!  sabotaging unoffs for us.

http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildaboutazcats/2010/06/07/cook-says-he-wants-to-learn-all-about-arizona-program/ (http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildaboutazcats/2010/06/07/cook-says-he-wants-to-learn-all-about-arizona-program/)


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2010, 08:59:03 AM
This could go anywhere but, David Cox is what 'Te used to be  :cry:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/09/rutgers-in-mix-for-nigerian-xavier-henry/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on June 09, 2010, 09:45:41 AM
 :angry:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 09, 2010, 12:16:09 PM
This could go anywhere but, David Cox is what 'Te used to be  :cry:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/09/rutgers-in-mix-for-nigerian-xavier-henry/

That link seems racist. :opcat:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 09, 2010, 12:20:33 PM
Gipson offered by West Virginia. Other notable offers to date include Okla St, SMU, and FIU but several B12 programs including KSU, Baylor, OU, and A&M are starting to show more interest also.

Sounds like he's really picking up his play, read several positive reviews about him from Pangos tourney this past weekend, had 15 and 7 in all-star game at the event.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1092466
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 10, 2010, 10:18:56 PM
Update from Meyer linked below says we've offered Gipson. That's kinda interesting because the update from Texashoops a couple days ago(see post directly above from wannabe recruitling analyst guy) implied we hadn't yet. Anyway, it's pretty clear Gipson's recent play has greatly improved his stock. Update also mentions our interest in Seagears and that we do not appear to be pursuing Goodman since his decommittment.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093112
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 10, 2010, 10:30:44 PM
we do not appear to be pursuing Goodman since his decommittment.

interesting.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 11, 2010, 09:37:24 PM
NBPA Top 100 Camp rosters released today. It will take place June 16-19 on UVa campus. Some names of interest on the roster are Isaiah Austin, D'Angelo Harrison, Perry Ellis, Dorian Finney-Smith,  Shane Larkin, Ben McLemore, Marcus Paige, Ryan Boatright, and Jordan Goodman. Full roster linked below and it's free.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/976444.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on June 12, 2010, 01:49:58 AM
"Point guard Jerome Seagears (Washington, D.C./Flora McDonald Academy) had a strong showing. He ran the floor well, scored the ball off the bounce or with the jumper and executed pick-and-rolls well. Schools he is hearing from are Florida, Rutgers, Seton Hall, Charlotte, Cincinnati, Boston College and Arizona."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5259917

Have a GREAT source saying that we are very much going after Seagears. He's a hidden gem.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 12, 2010, 11:53:09 AM
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Very impressed with D'Angelo Harrison. The 6'3 guard out of Dulles (TX) is big-time.

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Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 13, 2010, 12:25:16 AM
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The Franchize All-Stars from the Lone Star State made the trip north from Houston with their talented roster, and showed immediately what they have to offer. Led by Harrison, the Franchize All-Stars were able to dismantle Upstate Elite which is coached by former Syracuse standout John Wallace.

Harrison is a 6-foot-3 guard who is really capable of lighting up the scoreboard. He didn't have his best shooting day, but still he was very effective. Harrison was able to beat his man off the dribble and get to the rim, or finish in the mid-range. While Harrison didn't get hot from deep, he did hit a few jumpers, and those opened up the driving lanes.

On top of that, Harrison is a major competitor who got after it on the defensive end. He is a good athlete with a solid amount of lateral quickness. Those physical gifts combined with his mental desire to win make him a tough player to deal with on the floor, and that was obvious on Friday night.

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D'Angelo Harrison noted that the entire Big XII is after him along with schools such as Marquette, Houston, and Alabama also showing him attention.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093583
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on June 13, 2010, 12:08:35 PM
When the Texas and Oklahoma schools bolt for the PAC whatever, that's going to kill our chances with Texas recruits.   :cry:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 13, 2010, 04:31:12 PM
New mention(for me at least), Ben Dillard 6'2" 175 from Frisco, TX, runs w/Dallas Mustangs. Update from Iowa Rivals site in 5/10 mentions us a school of interest. Update from Rumble in Bronx linked below is free.

"Ben Dillard is the son of Iowa staffer Sherman Dillard, but he says that isn't a big deal in his recruitment. Dillard is hearing from Wichita State, SMU, Texas A&M, Iowa, Marquette, and Kansas State."

"Dillard is also someone who had his shot working, though he did more than just gun for deep. After hitting a few threes early in the first half, Dillard decided to use his two bounce game going to the rim. While that isn't his bread and butter, Dillard did get to the rim a time or two. Overall Dillard simply knows how to play, and while not an elite athlete with big time quickness, he simply knows how to be effective given his skill set."

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093760
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on June 14, 2010, 04:48:22 PM
shipman to UCF for football
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on June 14, 2010, 05:15:00 PM
There's a new Omari Lawrence article on GPC that says he would recieve a full ride and not walk on. So who is leaving to open up the extra scholarship?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on June 14, 2010, 05:16:30 PM
GPC has heard of basketball? 

Could always be juevol not coming.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: theswo on June 14, 2010, 07:35:07 PM
There's a new Omari Lawrence article on GPC that says he would recieve a full ride and not walk on. So who is leaving to open up the extra scholarship?
Is Freddy for sure going to make it to Manhattan?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Paul Moscow on June 14, 2010, 07:38:09 PM
GPC has heard of basketball? 

Could always be juevol not coming.

Remember reading that he had a few credits to finish up in the summer.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 14, 2010, 08:30:33 PM
There's a new Omari Lawrence article on GPC that says he would recieve a full ride and not walk on. So who is leaving to open up the extra scholarship?
Is Freddy for sure going to make it to Manhattan?

he's in mhk.  working out with the team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 15, 2010, 12:03:06 PM
Update from CU site(linked below) says we've offered Cannen Cunningham. He says KSU and UT are his 2 favorites at this point, even though UT has not offered yet.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094470
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 15, 2010, 12:04:29 PM
Update from CU site(linked below) says we've offered Cannen Cunningham. He says KSU and UT are his 2 favorites at this point, even though UT has not offered yet.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094470

go figgs!  (he will be able to dominate texas in the Texas 10).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 15, 2010, 12:24:26 PM
Update from CU site(linked below) says we've offered Cannen Cunningham. He says KSU and UT are his 2 favorites at this point, even though UT has not offered yet.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094470

Rivals (http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Cannen-Cunningham-93782)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 15, 2010, 02:29:46 PM
good fit for texas.

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I am real indecisive so I will probably wait until the last minute to decide.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: cas4ksu on June 15, 2010, 04:50:11 PM
Ron Baker. Scott City, KS.

Guy can play.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 16, 2010, 08:49:06 AM
Figgs doin work again, we're still after Luke Mergerson:

"Right now my top schools are Boston College, Iowa, Marquette, Bradley, Georgetown, Houston, SMU, and Kansas State," Luke listed.

Maybe he's a backup plan for Gipson and Cunningham?(If we even have room for those guys in the 1st place)

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1094782
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 16, 2010, 09:03:30 AM
We seem to be hitting TX pretty hard for bigs
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 17, 2010, 01:17:50 AM
from ouhoops poster re. gipson.

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Update from Scout this week said he liked Kansas State, West Virginia, Oklahoma and Cal.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 17, 2010, 10:44:46 AM
D'Angelo mania continues, I'll be really interested to hear how he does this weekend at the NBPA camp. Note there could be other KSU related info in the link below, I just haven't had time to dig through it all. Day jobs, can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em.

From Northstar hoops blog:

D’Angelo Harrison ’11, Dulles (TX), Franchize All Stars: Kansas State, Kansas, Oklahoma State, Baylor, Arizona State, Georgetown, Arkansas, Texas A&M, UTEP, SMU, and Houston
                                   Offers: Oklahoma State, Arizona State, Arkansas, UTEP, SMU, and Houston
                                   Favorites: “No, I’m interested in everybody.”
                                   Note- Harrison, who said location is not a factor, plans to commit in “maybe August or September”.

D'Angelo Harrison, a 6'3 shooting guard, was one of the most impressive players that I saw all weekend. While he does not have the frame of an elite player, Harrison certainly plays like one. He is a phenomenal scorer, especially off the shot from beyond the arc. Harrison could use a few more pounds, but he looks like a top-notch prospect.

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/06/15/rumble-in-the-bronx-day-two-rundown.aspx
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 17, 2010, 03:08:33 PM
Seagears update from NC St site. No mention of KSU but he really doesn't give a complete list either. The new Dalonte(David Cox) and Rutgers have just jumped in with an offer. Highlight vid included in update.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1095033

Scout update linked below does mention KSU. Says he has offers from Missouri, George Mason, George Washington, UMASS, and Florida and interest from NC State, UCONN, UCLA, Kansas State, Georgetown, and DePaul among others. He backs off his previous assertion that Missour is his leader and says he wants to make a final decision around August/September. Highlight vid included in this update also.

http://kansasstate.scout.com/2/977426.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on June 17, 2010, 03:09:46 PM
seagers: if MU vs KSU then i know how this story ends
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 17, 2010, 03:23:08 PM
It's that newly discovered curse of Melvin that Dalonte can't seem to overcome(Watkins was his HC at Charlotte).

Dalonte has a chance here to reverse a couple of bad trends, losing recruits to MU and breaking the DCA dryspell. Personally, I say offer Harrison, get him on board ASAP, and remove any drama from the situation but I would not be disappointed if we ended up with Seagears. Really looks fast, strong, and very athletic overall, which I know makes our staff :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 17, 2010, 03:37:34 PM
"D'Angelo Harrison, SG, Missouri City (Texas) Dulles- It wouldn't be a surprise if Harrison ended up leading the camp in scoring. Armed with a remarkably quick trigger, he's a scoring machine who needs little time, space or encouragement to let jumpers fly. He can get bumped off of his path and needs to add to his game off the dribble, but he can strip the nets with the best of them."

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1095289
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 17, 2010, 05:13:00 PM
Angel Rodriguez update
Angel Rodriguez, a current Miami Tropics guard that K-State is actively recruiting for its 2011 class, is still leaning toward the Wildcats. But Alvarez says spending time with Clemente this summer has made Rodriguez grow even fonder of K-State.

“He really looks up to Denis,” Alvarez said of Rodriguez. “And the fact that he knows Frank is the guy who helped him is important to him. He’s leaning hard toward Kansas State. I would be in shock if he doesn’t go there.”

Does that mean Rodriguez will be verbally committing to Martin anytime soon?

“What will happen is, he’ll go see, touch and feel Manhattan first,” Alvarez said. “Once he gets to Bramlage Coliseum and does all the stuff he needs to do on an official visit, he’ll be able to give his commitment then in the early-signing period.”

Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2010/06/17/clementes-draft-stock-rising/#ixzz0r9Qesywh
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: cas4ksu on June 17, 2010, 05:17:51 PM
Angel Rodriguez update
Angel Rodriguez, a current Miami Tropics guard that K-State is actively recruiting for its 2011 class, is still leaning toward the Wildcats. But Alvarez says spending time with Clemente this summer has made Rodriguez grow even fonder of K-State.

“He really looks up to Denis,” Alvarez said of Rodriguez. “And the fact that he knows Frank is the guy who helped him is important to him. He’s leaning hard toward Kansas State. I would be in shock if he doesn’t go there.”

Does that mean Rodriguez will be verbally committing to Martin anytime soon?

“What will happen is, he’ll go see, touch and feel Manhattan first,” Alvarez said. “Once he gets to Bramlage Coliseum and does all the stuff he needs to do on an official visit, he’ll be able to give his commitment then in the early-signing period.”

Read more: http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2010/06/17/clementes-draft-stock-rising/#ixzz0r9Qesywh

Yeah. He's ours.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 17, 2010, 05:23:08 PM
aa is hilarious.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jmlynch1 on June 17, 2010, 10:45:33 PM
aa is hilarious.
ridiculously
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 18, 2010, 02:59:08 AM
boatright still mentioning.

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Ryan Boatright, PG, Aurora (Ill.) East- Few guys in the country can match his quickness and explosion off of the dribble. He's little at about 5-foot-10 and 150 pounds soaking wet but he's tough as nails and doesn't let misfortune get him down. He can smoke jumpers from deep, is an electric finisher on the break , and shows signs as a playmaker for others. There aren't a lot of point guards left in 2011 and his recruitment will certainly benefit from it.

Ryan Boatright listed West Virginia, Wake Forest (said he had an offer from old staff but didn't know about new one), Miami, Kentucky, Kansas State, DePaul, Baylor and Tennessee.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1095426
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 21, 2010, 01:39:29 PM
It's that newly discovered curse of Melvin that Dalonte can't seem to overcome(Watkins was his HC at Charlotte).

Dalonte has a chance here to reverse a couple of bad trends, losing recruits to MU and breaking the DCA dryspell. Personally, I say offer Harrison, get him on board ASAP, and remove any drama from the situation but I would not be disappointed if we ended up with Seagears. Really looks fast, strong, and very athletic overall, which I know makes our staff :love:

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on June 21, 2010, 02:50:58 PM
so it's been pretty obvious for a while now that the 2011 class will consist of a SG/SF tweener (Nino), a PG or comboguard (most likely Angel) and a forward.  As far as that forward spot is concerned, we've now offered Gipson and Luke Mergerson loves us:

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I recently became aware that Kansas State was also considering you. How does that make you feel?
Luke Mergerson:  That makes me feel great. I was receiving letters with information regarding their program, but I didn't know that they were interested in me. They are a great program with a very intense and great coach. There is a player named Nick Russell on the team who I am cool with. He went to Duncanville and then graduated from Arlington Grace Prep.

Unfortunately for Luke, he's probably our 4th or 5th option after Finney-Smith, Cunningham and Gipson.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 21, 2010, 03:27:37 PM
so it's been pretty obvious for a while now that the 2011 class will consist of a SG/SF tweener (Nino), a PG or comboguard (most likely Angel) and a forward.

i don't think that's obvious yet.  especially with lawrence clouding the issue.  also, finney-smith is a 3.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on June 21, 2010, 03:29:54 PM
lawrence doesn't cloud the issue.  he's insurance.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 21, 2010, 03:42:17 PM
FWIW, Finney-Smith recently cut his list to 6 and we didn't make it.

"Norcom junior Dorian Finney-Smith has narrowed his list of colleges down to Virginia Tech, Virginia, Maryland, Florida, Wake Forest and Old Dominion."

http://hamptonroads.com/2010/06/boys-basketball-norcoms-finneysmith-narrows-list-six?cid=poblg
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 21, 2010, 03:42:42 PM
From sys post above, I guess we're still sorta talking to Boatright. Boat gets plenty of love from ESPN in the writeup below.

Ryan Boatright (Aurora, Ill./East)
2011, PG, 5-foot-10, 155 pounds
He attacked defenders off the dribble without mercy with his extra-tight handle. Boatright keeps the ball on a string as he crosses over and goes in between his legs at high speeds, with a fully loaded offensive arsenal at his disposal. When he receives the outlet, he can be at the rim in the blink of an eye. When Boatright can't get all the way to the rim, he knocks down a high-arching floater or stops and pops from midrange. When the defender backs away because of his excellent speed and quickness, Boatright rises up and knocks down the 3. He can create a shot at will and put up big numbers very quickly. His pace and energy on the offensive end is always at a high level.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5310182

Top Scorers from NBPA camp
1. P.J. Hairston - 15.8
2. B.J. Young - 14.7
2. Chane Behanan - 14.7
4. Cody Zeller - 14.3
5. Michael Gbinije - 14.0
6. Ryan Boatright - 13.0
7. Nick Faust - 12.8
8. D'Angelo Harriosn - 12.5
9. Josiah Turner - 11.8
10. Anthony Davis - 11.7
11. Rodney Purvis - 11.5
12. Anthony Gill - 11.3
13. Aaron Ross - 11.2
14. Deuce Bello - 11.0
14. Chris Jones - 11.0
16. Jabari Brown - 10.8
17. Wayne Blackshear - 10.7
18. Branden Dawson - 10.3
19. Jakarr Sampson - 10.2
19. Norman Powell 10.2
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on June 21, 2010, 03:51:22 PM
could boatright defend any big 12 guards at that 5'10" 150?  doubt he's really 5'10 either
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 21, 2010, 03:55:40 PM
could boatright defend any big 12 guards at that 5'10" 150?  doubt he's really 5'10 either

His weight is probably an issue defensively.  Not worried about his height at all.  Plays longer/taller than Pullen or Clemente.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 21, 2010, 04:01:44 PM
lawrence doesn't cloud the issue.  he's insurance.

he's insurance, but not for '11s.  he insures against either a player getting run, or a '10 not qualifying.  if he kicks in for either, it changes the '11 picture.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on June 21, 2010, 04:11:19 PM
swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all.  only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture.  and that's not happening.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on June 21, 2010, 04:13:08 PM
swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all.  only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture.  and that's not happening.

I need to buy Colombian, Panamanian and Jamaican flags.  When will I know if the Canadian flag should be added to my cart?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 21, 2010, 04:19:16 PM
swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all.  only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture.  and that's not happening.

swapping a 2009 1 for a 2010 3 doesn't make an '11 difference?

 :flush:



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on June 21, 2010, 04:35:29 PM
swapping omari for juevol doesn't change the '11 picture at all.  only an omari for dom swap changes the '11 picture.  and that's not happening.

swapping a 2009 1 for a 2010 3 doesn't make an '11 difference?

 :flush:





no.  not when you consider that we are overstocked and undertalented at both of those positions (notable exception being Jake). 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 21, 2010, 05:05:38 PM
no.  not when you consider that we are overstocked and undertalented at both of those positions (notable exception being Jake). 

i don't know if kstate is undertalented at the 3.  unquestionably overstocked though, ridiculously so if they take lawrence.

not at all overstocked at the 1 if myles doesn't make it.  in fact, the opposite.  agree on the undertalented part there though, which is why i think they'd have to look hard at taking 2pgs (pg and a combo) if they don't have myles.


almost, the only way taking either makes sense is if they are planning on running someone at the end of the year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 21, 2010, 05:13:30 PM

almost, the only way taking either makes sense is if they are planning on running someone at the end of the year.

both guys are just fill out the roster/take a flyer on types.  We're most assuredly running somebody off at the end of the season, and right now the most likely canidate is whomever makes it to campus between Lawrence and Myles.  (see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)  Either player would need to make a dramatic splash just to keep their spot IMO.  I doubt getting either one changes the way we recruit for '11.  Getting one is almost the same as leaving the 'ship open.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 21, 2010, 06:28:40 PM
(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)

myles sort of fits that profile.  lawrence doesn't at all.  if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 21, 2010, 06:41:14 PM
(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)

myles sort of fits that profile.  lawrence doesn't at all.  if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.

If he's still a fatass, then they'll show him the door.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 21, 2010, 07:13:05 PM
If he's still a fatass, then they'll show him the door.

anything's possible, but that's not a plan, that's a failure.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: StayOutOfTrees on June 21, 2010, 08:01:11 PM
(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)

myles sort of fits that profile.  lawrence doesn't at all.  if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.

I agree with sys, Lawrence fits more the Clemente, Kelly, and hopefully Asprilla model, than like the Herrera, Gilbert, and Awaji model. Two different monsters.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 21, 2010, 10:34:40 PM
(see: Herrera, Gilbert, Awaji)

myles sort of fits that profile.  lawrence doesn't at all.  if they take lawrence, there is no way he leaves following the '10-'11 season.

I agree with sys, Lawrence fits more the Clemente, Kelly, and hopefully Asprilla model, than like the Herrera, Gilbert, and Awaji model. Two different monsters.

Lawrence is closer to Herrera than Clemente or Kelly.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 21, 2010, 11:00:18 PM
Wasn't Kelly's rap at UCONN that he was fat and lazy?  Maybe a year with Greenie will help out Lawrence as well?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 21, 2010, 11:03:42 PM
Lawrence is closer to Herrera than Clemente or Kelly.

ludicrous.  not in any way.


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 21, 2010, 11:06:11 PM
Lawrence is closer to Herrera than Clemente or Kelly.

ludicrous.  not in any way.





whatever.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 22, 2010, 12:15:42 AM
whatever.

would have to sit out a year, has 4 to play 3, has other high major (hell d1) offers, is interested in playing collegiate basketball:  minor differences.


the idea that the staff would offer a prominent player from one of the small number of areas they recruit with the intention of having him burn his rs, only to run him off without him ever seeing the court is borderline Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: theswo on June 22, 2010, 12:30:08 AM
would have to sit out a year, has 4 to play 3, has other high major (hell d1) offers, is interested in playing collegiate basketball:  minor differences.
Agree with all these points and I do think that Lawrence would be a pretty good get. However, he did have a fairly unimpressive year stats-wise as a part of a very mediocre St. John's squad, so I understand the concern.

He is more of a rebounding guard/defensive specialist though right?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 22, 2010, 06:34:26 AM
Curtis Kelly: 5-star big time high school recruit.  Goes to one of the most elite programs in the country and compete with future NBA bigs on a fantastic team.  Gets beat out for PT and is heavily recruited as a transfer.

Denis Clemente: former RSCI top 100.  Goes to mediocre program and makes immediate impact.  Starts numerous games as a freshman and sophmore and puts up solid numbers.  Gets kicked off for smoking weed.

Abdul Herrera:  Moderately recruited high school recruit.  Borderline top 150.  Goes to tradition rich program, but program was currently playing well below standards.  Gets freaking burried on the roster behind nobody in particular.  Does nothing.  K-State strings him along for as long as possible and brings him in when it's apparent that they have no other options.

Omari Lawrence:  (see Abdul Herrera)  (DO NOT see Dennis Clemente)  (See Curtis Kelly if your boarderline Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2010, 07:19:52 AM
Omari Lawrence:  (see Abdul Herrera)  (DO NOT see Dennis Clemente)  (See Curtis Kelly if your boarderline Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

"you're"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 22, 2010, 10:04:02 AM
yosh, i think i see the problem.  you're looking at a lawrence vs herrera/kelly/clemente comparo vis a vis how good they are.  that's not the issue at all, and is completely beside the point.

the comparo is about whether the staff is recruiting him as a 1 year stop-gap or not.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 22, 2010, 10:31:43 AM
yosh, i think i see the problem.  you're looking at a lawrence vs herrera/kelly/clemente comparo vis a vis how good they are.  that's not the issue at all, and is completely beside the point.

the comparo is about whether the staff is recruiting him as a 1 year stop-gap or not.

I look at Herrera as a guy with potential that had an history of being a lazy, underachieving POS.  The staff was giving him a chance to get it together, but it's was unlikely he would.  They didn't really have any other options with the scholly so why not?  I see Lawrence the same way.

Myles is more like Gilbert and Buchi.


Omari Lawrence:  (see Abdul Herrera)  (DO NOT see Dennis Clemente)  (See Curtis Kelly if your boarderline Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!))

"you're"

OMG YOU GOT ME GOOD!   :excited:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 22, 2010, 10:56:58 AM
They didn't really have any other options with the scholly so why not?  I see Lawrence the same way.

but, that is not accurate.  w. herrera the choice was leave the 'ship empty or fill it with herrera.

lawrence is completely different because he has to sit out the year, and they aren't low on bodies or on 3s, so it's not like he's needed for practice.

so regardless of whether you take him or not, you get nothing in '10.  taking him is the equivalent of an '11.  the choice is take lawrence or take an '11.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2010, 11:02:36 AM
 :blush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on June 22, 2010, 11:15:34 AM
Lawrence is much more like Clemente than Herrera IMO.  Herrera was Frank's boy, first kid he recruited to Cincinnati.  I really don't think that situation is comparable.  But a pretty talented kid who didn't completely fit at a lower tier bcs school is a major similarity between Lawrence and Clemente.  Now we'll just have to see if there is any talent there or if Frank gives him a shot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 22, 2010, 11:23:05 AM
When did everyone on this board turn full blown Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 22, 2010, 11:26:44 AM
When did everyone on this board turn full blown Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

bound to happen without elite camp updates.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2010, 11:35:15 AM
ARE WE EVEN HAVING AN ELITE CAMP OR DID IT GET CANCELLED?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 22, 2010, 11:45:15 AM
ARE WE EVEN HAVING AN ELITE CAMP OR DID IT GET CANCELLED?

do you think the "media" is afraid to tell us?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 22, 2010, 11:46:21 AM
ARE WE EVEN HAVING AN ELITE CAMP OR DID IT GET CANCELLED?

do you think the "media" is afraid to tell us?

yeah, I would hate  for them to piss off the staff and lose their access.  access to what, not sure.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 22, 2010, 12:04:54 PM
yeah, I would hate  for them to piss off the staff and lose their access.  access to what, not sure.

maybe they're more afraid of us (for us).   :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: stunz on June 22, 2010, 12:46:10 PM
Lawrence is much more like Clemente than Herrera IMO.  Herrera was Frank's boy, first kid he recruited to Cincinnati.  I really don't think that situation is comparable.  But a pretty talented kid who didn't completely fit at a lower tier bcs school is a major similarity between Lawrence and Clemente.  Now we'll just have to see if there is any talent there or if Frank gives him a shot.

also a guard so a higher chance he pans out.  he just has to lose weight apparently.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on June 22, 2010, 07:30:21 PM
Lawrence is much more like Clemente than Herrera IMO.  Herrera was Frank's boy, first kid he recruited to Cincinnati.  I really don't think that situation is comparable.  But a pretty talented kid who didn't completely fit at a lower tier bcs school is a major similarity between Lawrence and Clemente.  Now we'll just have to see if there is any talent there or if Frank gives him a shot.

also a guard so a higher chance he pans out.  he just has to lose weight apparently.

if you beleive KOB, he already has lost that weight.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 22, 2010, 08:12:31 PM

if you beleive KOB.

I don't.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 22, 2010, 10:13:16 PM
In other news, Te460K is has drawn several smiley faces and a mean looking monster type character on his office whiteboard , . . just underneath the note to call Baron and set up a test drive.



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 22, 2010, 10:19:31 PM
Man, I hope he's buyin that BMW for a recruit!!  :pray:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 22, 2010, 11:31:31 PM
In other news, Te460K is has drawn several smiley faces and a mean looking monster type character on his office whiteboard , . . just underneath the note to call Baron and set up a test drive.





dax,

you do a very good job w/ this. very good. your biggest obstacle though (imo) is that nobody cares how much coaches get paid. i don't. at all. i personally wish that everybody on the staff made 8 billion a year each. or more if they wanted it. maybe rework your stuff to focus on the laziness and not the amount of money being made. :twocents:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on June 22, 2010, 11:53:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ&feature=channel
Frank,  you can relate to him cant you? GET HIM
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on June 23, 2010, 12:15:48 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ&feature=channel
Frank,  you can relate to him cant you? GET HIM

Nice post, Wyatt. :opcat:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on June 23, 2010, 12:19:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ&feature=channel
Frank,  you can relate to him cant you? GET HIM

Nice post, Wyatt. :opcat:
couldnt help myself.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on June 23, 2010, 08:46:23 AM
When did everyone on this board turn full blown Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
:frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on June 23, 2010, 08:53:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ&feature=channel
Frank,  you can relate to him cant you? GET HIM

 :surprised:

LOL at the Chipmunks version of "Whipping Post"

Not listed, but doesn't have any offers yet

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Cezar-Guerrero-82492
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 23, 2010, 09:05:44 AM
In other news, Te460K is has drawn several smiley faces and a mean looking monster type character on his office whiteboard , . . just underneath the note to call Baron and set up a test drive.





dax,

you do a very good job w/ this. very good. your biggest obstacle though (imo) is that nobody cares how much coaches get paid. i don't. at all. i personally wish that everybody on the staff made 8 billion a year each. or more if they wanted it. maybe rework your stuff to focus on the laziness and not the amount of money being made. :twocents:

Daris . . . that's really the point dude.   I couldn't care less if they paid Te a million a year if he was out landing 4 and 5 star recruits.   But he's not.

Oh . . . another note, after watching 42's video.   I just want us all to take a moment of silence before we issue last rights for the palming/carrying the basketball rule.  


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on June 23, 2010, 10:33:00 AM
When did everyone on this board turn full blown Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

For me it happened some time in May, I think, not really sure.  What was the question?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on June 23, 2010, 10:42:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ&feature=channel
Frank,  you can relate to him cant you? GET HIM

 :surprised:

LOL at the Chipmunks version of "Whipping Post"

Not listed, but doesn't have any offers yet

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Cezar-Guerrero-82492

 :love: :love: :love:

and an extra  :love: :love: that we probably would get to pronounce his name Say-Zar and listen to Wyatt and Stan butcher it. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on June 23, 2010, 10:54:44 AM
and an extra  :love: :love: that we probably would get to pronounce his name Say-Zar and listen to Wyatt and Stan butcher it. 

That, and we'll get to hear Wyatt suggest he go eat some more tacos or something at the next Catbackers.  :opcat:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 23, 2010, 01:21:56 PM
Top prospect list from Texashoops linked below. Interesting that while Rivals has Harrison ranked #29 nationally(2nd our overall in st of TX), he only comes in at #7 here. Other names of interest are:
13. Gipson
19. Dillard
24. Cunningham
34. Mergerson

Hoiowans are :cheers: over #15

http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/football/recruiting/rankings/rank-2335
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on June 23, 2010, 03:45:28 PM
We just recently offered Jordan Williams. PF out of Texas...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jordan-Williams-93725
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 23, 2010, 04:12:13 PM
We just recently offered Jordan Williams. PF out of Texas...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jordan-Williams-93725

Now that's the kind of attention to detail I'm talkin about Pett! With recent reported offers also to Gipson and Cunningham, it looks like we're bound and determined to land a Forward from the DFW area.

FWIW, he's #9 in TX hoop prospect list linked a couple posts above. Sounds like he had a pretty good HS season in his 1st year at a new school.

"The Colony junior Jordan Williams, who was playing in his first season for the Cougars, shared MVP honors with Bud Sasser of Denton Ryan.

Williams led the Cougars in scoring (19.2) and rebounding (8.4).

“I’m really proud of Jordan,” Ryan said. “Not only for how he progressed as a player, but how he progressed as a person. He came into a new school with a new system and coaching staff and really grew as a player and young man.”

Williams also came though in the clutch, converting six 3-pointers in the regional finals against Mansfield Legacy.

Ryan said Williams has a scorer’s mentality and is aggressive around the hoop.

Next season, Ryan said Williams is working on improving his ball-handling skills and shot selection while also working in the weight room."

http://www.planostar.com/articles/2010/05/05/sports/schools/the_colony/0000000003.txt
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 23, 2010, 04:58:50 PM
sounds like a 3.

cassidy has a nice, emaw-friendly seagears update.

Quote
We haven't set up a visit yet, but we probably will after July....  I like Georgetown and UCLA, and I definitely like Kansas State. I like DePaul, Arizona Seton Hall, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I definitely want to visit Arizona, Cincinnati and DePaul, but all my visits are probably going to be in August and September.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1097084
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 23, 2010, 07:03:00 PM
Dalonte Hill Sighting . . .

I take back the comment on the blank white board.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jerome-Seagears-106181
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on June 23, 2010, 07:10:26 PM
In other news, Te460K is has drawn several smiley faces and a mean looking monster type character on his office whiteboard , . . just underneath the note to call Baron and set up a test drive.





dax,

you do a very good job w/ this. very good. your biggest obstacle though (imo) is that nobody cares how much coaches get paid. i don't. at all. i personally wish that everybody on the staff made 8 billion a year each. or more if they wanted it. maybe rework your stuff to focus on the laziness and not the amount of money being made. :twocents:

Daris . . . that's really the point dude.   I couldn't care less if they paid Te a million a year if he was out landing 4 and 5 star recruits.   But he's not.

Oh . . . another note, after watching 42's video.   I just want us all to take a moment of silence before we issue last rights for the palming/carrying the basketball rule.  




my point is that i care about his recruiting and nothing else. you care about his recruiting and the amount of money he makes if he's not pulling in good recruits. i still just care about his recruiting. still don't care about the money. pretty irrelevant. but let's stop before we mess up this thread anymore.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on June 23, 2010, 10:36:50 PM
sounds like a 3.

cassidy has a nice, emaw-friendly seagears update.

Quote
We haven't set up a visit yet, but we probably will after July....  I like Georgetown and UCLA, and I definitely like Kansas State. I like DePaul, Arizona Seton Hall, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I definitely want to visit Arizona, Cincinnati and DePaul, but all my visits are probably going to be in August and September.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1097084

So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.  If we're still looking at guards, I'm guessing that we're not 100% set on him.

I mean, it's not like we really need a backup plan for one of Art's kids if we offer them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on June 23, 2010, 10:55:06 PM
Can somebody please do the following:

1)  group our 2011 prospects in by position
2)  within each respective position group rank those players by how good they are (1 being best)
3)  next to each players name place the chance the Cats have at them (i.e. low, med, high)

TIA.  This is a lot of sh*t to read, and with every guy immediately given a short name, or worse some hyphenated acronym thing, its really hard to follow.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Winters on June 23, 2010, 11:01:29 PM
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Quinn-Cook/115518535127433?ref=ts
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 23, 2010, 11:05:01 PM
So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.

i think there's a better than 50% chance they take 2 guards.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on June 23, 2010, 11:28:43 PM
So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.

i think there's a better than 50% chance they take 2 guards.

At the expense of a big, or because someone's getting the boot?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 23, 2010, 11:40:07 PM
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Quinn-Cook/115518535127433?ref=ts

 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 24, 2010, 12:11:38 AM
At the expense of a big, or because someone's getting the boot?

either.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on June 24, 2010, 01:04:52 AM
So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.

i think there's a better than 50% chance they take 2 guards.

Let's just get rid of Martavious after the season. In that case we can take Angel & Seagears (Seags will get an offer after Quinn denies us).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 24, 2010, 01:13:23 AM
Bet we're not going to want Tavious to go anywhere after this season.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 24, 2010, 06:58:33 AM
So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.

i think there's a better than 50% chance they take 2 guards.

Agree on both counts.  I wouldn't be suprised if we end up with 2 guards and niether is Angel.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 24, 2010, 07:43:08 AM
Bet we're not going to want Tavious to go anywhere after this season.

I bet I will.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 24, 2010, 08:08:25 AM
Bet we're not going to want Tavious to go anywhere after this season.

I bet I will.

me2
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on June 24, 2010, 08:57:26 AM
Bet we're not going to want Tavious to go anywhere after this season.

I normally think you are punch drunk Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when you post, but I think Martavious will do good things this season too.  Kid over performed for a 3 star that no one major wanted until the last minute.  He plays defense the way he needs to in order to get minutes and he's a decent shooter.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on June 24, 2010, 09:18:21 AM
sounds like a 3.

cassidy has a nice, emaw-friendly seagears update.

Quote
We haven't set up a visit yet, but we probably will after July....  I like Georgetown and UCLA, and I definitely like Kansas State. I like DePaul, Arizona Seton Hall, Rutgers and Cincinnati. I definitely want to visit Arizona, Cincinnati and DePaul, but all my visits are probably going to be in August and September.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1097084

So, I'm not 100% convinced that we're really all that hot after Angel.  If we're still looking at guards, I'm guessing that we're not 100% set on him.

I mean, it's not like we really need a backup plan for one of Art's kids if we offer them.

Don't know much about Art.  How would it go over if we left Angel out in the cold?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 24, 2010, 09:27:44 AM
Not gonna happen.   He and Frank are too tight to screw over one of his kids.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 24, 2010, 09:39:10 AM
Don't know much about Art.  How would it go over if we left Angel out in the cold?

it's a lot more important to aa to be martin's friend than it is to be ar-t's benefactor.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 24, 2010, 10:24:36 AM
Had AR-T already committed, it might be an issue.  He hasn't so it's not. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on June 24, 2010, 01:06:09 PM
Not sure which thread this goes in....bp quote

Quote
my N.Y.C. contacts say that Curtis & Jordan when they went home for a little
time, BOTH were telling EVERYONE to go to Kansas State U. w/Frank Martin!

.....Serious Purple Ambassadors.....
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: StayOutOfTrees on June 24, 2010, 05:53:18 PM
 :blush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 25, 2010, 05:28:45 PM
uf is starting to recruit ar-t, don't know how seriously.


Quote
Angel got U Florida's attention @ their Team Camp last weekend,
Coach Donovan watched ALL of Dr. Krop's games.....

there were like 50-60 teams or something at the camp, so that's a significant time allocation commitment by donovan.  krop does have a couple of other d1 players, but ar-t is definitely the headliner.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 25, 2010, 05:39:16 PM
Goddamn Donavon.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on June 25, 2010, 07:45:41 PM
in all reality, donovan has very little on us when it comes to ar-t.  just a FWIW.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 25, 2010, 07:59:29 PM
So, we stand a pretty good chance at finishing 2nd to him for another recruit?
Title: Martin makes it official we have packed it in with elite recruits
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 26, 2010, 09:52:08 AM
Quote
I can't stand selfish players. Selfish players drive me crazy. Selfish players destroy your locker room. He's another guy that's a pass-first guy.

I mean how many pass first/unselfish players do you recruit before you actually get a player or two :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 26, 2010, 10:18:28 AM
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 26, 2010, 10:42:57 AM
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.

don't really understand the 2011 negativity.  it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s.  3 more likely.  are people truly going to be disappointed with that?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 26, 2010, 11:44:01 AM
We're paying an assistant coach in excess of $450k a year (with bonuses) to get K-State in on Top 100 kids.   

Why bother to pay out that kind of money if that's not happening??   

I don't believe for a second that Te brings $450K plus worth of bench coaching prowess to the table.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 26, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
We're paying an assistant coach in excess of $450k a year (with bonuses) to get K-State in on Top 100 kids.   

Why bother to pay out that kind of money if that's not happening??   

I don't believe for a second that Te brings $450K plus worth of bench coaching prowess to the table.

yeah, i think daris covered this already.  maybe start an asst coaching sal. thread?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on June 26, 2010, 12:48:08 PM
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.

don't really understand the 2011 negativity.  it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s.  3 more likely.  are people truly going to be disappointed with that?

Nino, AR-T, who else do you expect for this class?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on June 27, 2010, 07:34:40 PM
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.

don't really understand the 2011 negativity.  it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s.  3 more likely.  are people truly going to be disappointed with that?

Will people be disappointed with that?  You know damn well the answer is yes, because people are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Will Sugar Dick be disappointed?  Hell No!  I remember when we would be thrilled about having one 150 guy.  Now practically our whole team is made up of them.  It's pretty rough ridin' sweet if you ask me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ksu1100 on June 27, 2010, 11:16:10 PM
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.

don't really understand the 2011 negativity.  it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s.  3 more likely.  are people truly going to be disappointed with that?

Will people be disappointed with that?  You know damn well the answer is yes, because people are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Will Sugar Dick be disappointed?  Hell No!  I remember when we would be thrilled about having one 150 guy.  Now practically our whole team is made up of them.  It's pretty fracking sweet if you ask me.


I remember standing in line at a subway next to ksu asst. Jimmy Elgas.  ksu was in need of a big man, so I asked him if they were recruiting one or having any luck.  he said "dont worry, we've got your back".  As a young happy EMAW fan, I went home to tell my friends the good news.  Come to find out Serge Afeli was on the way.

So yes, it is nice to finally recruit American players recognized by recruiting services.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on June 28, 2010, 06:31:13 AM
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.

don't really understand the 2011 negativity.  it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s.  3 more likely.  are people truly going to be disappointed with that?

Will people be disappointed with that?  You know damn well the answer is yes, because people are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Will Sugar Dick be disappointed?  Hell No!  I remember when we would be thrilled about having one 150 guy.  Now practically our whole team is made up of them.  It's pretty fracking sweet if you ask me.


I remember standing in line at a subway next to ksu asst. Jimmy Elgas.  ksu was in need of a big man, so I asked him if they were recruiting one or having any luck.  he said "dont worry, we've got your back".  As a young happy EMAW fan, I went home to tell my friends the good news.  Come to find out Serge Afeli was on the way.

So yes, it is nice to finally recruit American players recognized by recruiting services.

Dalonte Hill makes almost as much money as Jim Wooldridge did, and likely makes 2.5 times more  money than Jim Elgas did.

The last 2 posts =  :facepalm:

Aim low . . . shoot just slightly higher.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2010, 06:52:41 AM
Well the down hill run to SLTH land just picked up momentum.

don't really understand the 2011 negativity.  it'll be a surprise if kstate doesn't sign at least 2 top 150s.  3 more likely.  are people truly going to be disappointed with that?

Will people be disappointed with that?  You know damn well the answer is yes, because people are Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Will Sugar Dick be disappointed?  Hell No!  I remember when we would be thrilled about having one 150 guy.  Now practically our whole team is made up of them.  It's pretty fracking sweet if you ask me.


I remember standing in line at a subway next to ksu asst. Jimmy Elgas.  ksu was in need of a big man, so I asked him if they were recruiting one or having any luck.  he said "dont worry, we've got your back".  As a young happy EMAW fan, I went home to tell my friends the good news.  Come to find out Serge Afeli was on the way.

So yes, it is nice to finally recruit American players recognized by recruiting services.

Dalonte Hill makes almost as much money as Jim Wooldridge did, and likely makes 2.5 times more  money than Jim Elgas did.

The last 2 posts =  :facepalm:

Aim low . . . shoot just slightly higher.



No sh*t.  Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on June 28, 2010, 08:26:10 AM
rough ridin' christ.  take this crap elsewhere. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 28, 2010, 08:31:48 AM
No sh*t.  Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!

so, what do you want?  what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: stunz on June 28, 2010, 11:36:28 AM
feels better to compare it to the thuggins cincy teams, but better coaching.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2010, 12:22:01 PM
No sh*t.  Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!

so, what do you want?  what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?

top 25-ish class would be a success.  two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success".  I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on June 28, 2010, 12:27:51 PM
No sh*t.  Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!

so, what do you want?  what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?

top 25-ish class would be a success.  two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success".  I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.

Could one of you two angry bitches summarize who we are currently recruiting that would fit this characterization?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2010, 01:12:44 PM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/28/anthony-davis-bursting-onto-national-scene/

:fatty:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 28, 2010, 01:17:40 PM
ummmmm....

(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/ANTHONY-DAVIS2011_150A.JPG)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on June 28, 2010, 01:18:19 PM
ummmmm....

(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/ANTHONY-DAVIS2011_150A.JPG)
:facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on June 28, 2010, 01:24:51 PM
No sh*t.  Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!

so, what do you want?  what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?

top 25-ish class would be a success.  two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success".  I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.

Having a team full of 150 players vs. a team with one or two 150 players is "slightly better"?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 28, 2010, 01:30:51 PM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/28/anthony-davis-bursting-onto-national-scene/

:fatty:

Nice to be an also ran!   :pbj:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 28, 2010, 01:33:56 PM
Yes love piling up the honorable mentions. (http://www.manysmileys.com/files/S/lM/Ee/SlMEevVV11973041.gif)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2010, 01:36:28 PM
No sh*t.  Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!

so, what do you want?  what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?

top 25-ish class would be a success.  two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success".  I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.

Having a team full of 150 players vs. a team with one or two 150 players is "slightly better"?

I don't think you understand what a "team full of 150 players" looks like:I don't think you know what a "team full of 150 players" means.

Here's the 11-12 scholarship roster as it stands today.

Henriquez-Roberts, Jordan
Irving, Martavious

Judge, Wally
McGruder, Rodney
Russell, Nick
Samuels, Jamar
Southwell, Shane
Asprilla, Freddy
Spradling, Will
Myles, Juevol
Williams, Nino


That's 6 scholarship players that aren't top 150.  And only one player is consensus top 100.  One!  Where do you get this "full of top 150 players" nonsense, sugar dick?

Seriously, a class of a couple top 150's and Nino would look like a class of Clent, Curtis Allen, and Fred Peete.  Woo hoo!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on June 28, 2010, 02:04:20 PM
Are you just not counting Nino as top 150 because of bias?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 28, 2010, 02:05:30 PM
Are you just not counting Nino as top 150 because of bias?
was an odd timing for his bump up, wasn't it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 28, 2010, 03:30:23 PM
Northstar hoops blog reporting we offered Boatright, he also seems to have backed off from Miami being his leader.

"Aurora East (IL) point guard Ryan Boatright was one of just a handful of players under 6-feet tall at NBPA Top 100 Camp.
Boatright was also one of just a handful of players to average 13 or more points per game, and was the leading scorer amongst the sub 6-footers. Clearly, Boatright’s size is not holding him back, which is evidenced by the types of schools pursuing him. The 5'10, 152-pound point guard holds offers from Miami, Wake Forest, Tennessee, West Virginia, Kansas State, and UTEP were amongst the schools that have offered him. Kentucky is showing interest."

Ryan Boatright ’11, Aurora East (IL): Kentucky, Wake Forest, Tennessee, Miami, UTEP, West Virginia, Kansas State, and
others
                              Offers: All except Kentucky
                              Favorites: “No, not really, they are all in the same boat really.”
                              Note- Boatright committed to USC before his freshman year of high school, but has since decommitted and is not considering the Trojans. He said that he does not regret the commitment, though. To read the full article that I wrote on Boatright for InsideTheU.com, click Here .

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/06/23/boatright-interested-in-miami.aspx
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on June 28, 2010, 04:51:51 PM
Northstar hoops blog reporting we offered Boatright, he also seems to have backed off from Miami being his leader.

"Aurora East (IL) point guard Ryan Boatright was one of just a handful of players under 6-feet tall at NBPA Top 100 Camp.
Boatright was also one of just a handful of players to average 13 or more points per game, and was the leading scorer amongst the sub 6-footers. Clearly, Boatright’s size is not holding him back, which is evidenced by the types of schools pursuing him. The 5'10, 152-pound point guard holds offers from Miami, Wake Forest, Tennessee, West Virginia, Kansas State, and UTEP were amongst the schools that have offered him. Kentucky is showing interest."

Ryan Boatright ’11, Aurora East (IL): Kentucky, Wake Forest, Tennessee, Miami, UTEP, West Virginia, Kansas State, and
others
                              Offers: All except Kentucky
                              Favorites: “No, not really, they are all in the same boat really.”
                              Note- Boatright committed to USC before his freshman year of high school, but has since decommitted and is not considering the Trojans. He said that he does not regret the commitment, though. To read the full article that I wrote on Boatright for InsideTheU.com, click Here .

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/06/23/boatright-interested-in-miami.aspx
Nice job underdog.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 28, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/28/anthony-davis-bursting-onto-national-scene/

:fatty:

Nice to be an also ran!   :pbj:

lol, didn't last long

Quote
“We’re looking at Syracuse, Kentucky and Ohio State,” Anthony Sr. said. “I think those three schools fit perfectly in the style of basketball he plays.”
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/06/28/anthony-davis-cuts-list-to-3/

He's too ugly for us anyway
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 28, 2010, 05:38:02 PM
lol, didn't last long

not sure i believe his father.  weird not to see louisville even listed.  was great to get a mention though, even if possibly fake.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 28, 2010, 05:41:36 PM
top 25-ish class would be a success.  two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success".  I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.

it's hard to have a top 25 class with 3 (possibly 2, possibly 4) recruits.  i have a hard time understanding how filling 2 of 3  or 3 of 3 ships with top 150s would be considered poor.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on June 28, 2010, 06:39:20 PM
No sh*t.  Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!

so, what do you want?  what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?

top 25-ish class would be a success.  two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success".  I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.

Having a team full of 150 players vs. a team with one or two 150 players is "slightly better"?

I don't think you understand what a "team full of 150 players" looks like:I don't think you know what a "team full of 150 players" means.

Here's the 11-12 scholarship roster as it stands today.

Henriquez-Roberts, Jordan
Irving, Martavious

Judge, Wally
McGruder, Rodney
Russell, Nick
Samuels, Jamar
Southwell, Shane
Asprilla, Freddy
Spradling, Will
Myles, Juevol
Williams, Nino


That's 6 scholarship players that aren't top 150.  And only one player is consensus top 100.  One!  Where do you get this "full of top 150 players" nonsense, sugar dick?

Seriously, a class of a couple top 150's and Nino would look like a class of Clent, Curtis Allen, and Fred Peete.  Woo hoo!

Nice post Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)  :lol:

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 28, 2010, 07:04:57 PM
Once again, I would like to ask:  Is it only good recruiting when you sign highly thought of players?  Isn't having a guy like JamSam (not top 150) on the roster also good recruiting?  Seems like UNC literally had a roster full of top 100 guys last year, seems like it was a less than successful team though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 28, 2010, 07:35:40 PM
lol, didn't last long

not sure i believe his father.  weird not to see louisville even listed.  was great to get a mention though, even if possibly fake.

Update from Scout also lists final 3 as UK, Syracuse, and Ohio St, also quoting Dad. Update almost looks like Daniels(Scout dude) just lifted it off the Zags report. Hey man, whatever works. It was nice to get the mention for an elite like AD, however short-lived it was. I remember when Tai Streets visited the OOD this past season and sys, michigancat, yosh and others were leaving no stone unturned trying to figure out if we were after any Meanstreets prospects. An under the radar stud like AD would have been fantastic but everybody, myself included, would have flipped our crap when he blew up this past Spring and we would have been left out in the cold. Now, it's just sorta, whatever, never had a shot in the 1st place.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/980681.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on June 28, 2010, 08:21:32 PM
  i have a hard time understanding how filling 2 of 3  or 3 of 3 ships with top 150s would be considered poor.

I don't consider it to be poor, but I don't think it's a class that should be celebrated, either.  There is middle ground in there, ya know?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on June 28, 2010, 08:39:39 PM


Quote
He's too ugly for us anyway

UNI-BROW, pluck (or wax) that sh1t man!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 28, 2010, 08:45:33 PM
I remember when Tai Streets visited the OOD this past season and sys, michigancat, yosh and others were leaving no stone unturned trying to figure out if we were after any Meanstreets prospects. An under the radar stud like AD would have been fantastic but everybody, myself included, would have flipped our crap when he blew up this past Spring and we would have been left out in the cold.

if kstate actually ever was in on him, it was a huge opportunity lost.  would have made some of the best messageboarding since the heyday of the mitchell saga.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 28, 2010, 08:52:44 PM
cook to tranfer to oak hill for his senior year.

tweet from his coach at dematha:

Quote
Good luck to @QCook323....wanted to keep it quiet but the entire DM family wish him all the best. STAG forever.



also, apparently christian kirk is going to play in kc this year.  didn't realize he was from kc originally.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 28, 2010, 08:56:37 PM
more on davis:

Quote
when I asked him if he was going to take visits somewhere other than the three schools Davis said

"Not sure yet."

http://www.coast2coastrecruiting.net/2010/06/anthony-davis-down-to-three-schools.html



kinda weird, something happened.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 28, 2010, 09:06:13 PM
cook to tranfer to oak hill for his senior year.

tweet from his coach at dematha:

Quote
Good luck to @QCook323....wanted to keep it quiet but the entire DM family wish him all the best. STAG forever.

"apparently this was a power play by DC Assault to Dematha"

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on June 28, 2010, 09:46:40 PM
cook to tranfer to oak hill for his senior year.

tweet from his coach at dematha:

Quote
Good luck to @QCook323....wanted to keep it quiet but the entire DM family wish him all the best. STAG forever.

"apparently this was a power play by DC Assault to Dematha"

 :surprised:
god. It would solve alot of my future concerns for EMAW basketball at the Point Guard Position!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Powertard5000 on June 30, 2010, 11:13:07 PM
No sh*t.  Jesus, let's f*cking throw a parade because we might get 2(!) top 150's!

so, what do you want?  what constitutes a recruiting success for 2011?

top 25-ish class would be a success.  two top 150's isn't horrible, but I just don't think it's quite a "success".  I'm more disgusted with "being happy with slightly better than Wooldridge" attitude.

Having a team full of 150 players vs. a team with one or two 150 players is "slightly better"?

I don't think you understand what a "team full of 150 players" looks like:I don't think you know what a "team full of 150 players" means.

Here's the 11-12 scholarship roster as it stands today.

Henriquez-Roberts, Jordan
Irving, Martavious

Judge, Wally
McGruder, Rodney
Russell, Nick
Samuels, Jamar
Southwell, Shane
Asprilla, Freddy
Spradling, Will
Myles, Juevol
Williams, Nino


That's 6 scholarship players that aren't top 150.  And only one player is consensus top 100.  One!  Where do you get this "full of top 150 players" nonsense, sugar dick?

Seriously, a class of a couple top 150's and Nino would look like a class of Clent, Curtis Allen, and Fred Peete.  Woo hoo!



 Wally Judge , Curtis Kelly (who you seemed to have forgot), Rodney Mcgruder are all top 100.  Freddy Asprilla was rookie of the year for FIU and he is the #2 rated JUCO.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 30, 2010, 11:27:26 PM
Kelly won't be on the '11-12 roster dood.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Powertard5000 on June 30, 2010, 11:44:17 PM
Kelly won't be on the '11-12 roster dood.



 I misread your post but i don't think we will go after anyone considered a one and done. Frank is trying to build teams and you can't do that when you have guys leaving after a year. I think these later top 150 players who can become NBA type talent down the road is what we will be after here and out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 30, 2010, 11:53:44 PM
Kelly won't be on the '11-12 roster dood.



 I misread your post but i don't think we will go after anyone considered a one and done. Frank is trying to build teams and you can't do that when you have guys leaving after a year. I think these later top 150 players who can become NBA type talent down the road is what we will be after here and out.

Well, you just lived up to your name.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 30, 2010, 11:58:50 PM
Believe, the staff wants the most talented players they can get.  It's not like we would turn down a Cousins because we're afraid he's a one and done.  We just haven't had one of them for a while.  A coach won't be coaching at this level long if he's afraid of those types of players.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 01, 2010, 06:21:53 AM
Kelly won't be on the '11-12 roster dood.



 I misread your post but i don't think we will go after anyone considered a one and done. Frank is trying to build teams and you can't do that when you have guys leaving after a year. I think these later top 150 players who can become NBA type talent down the road is what we will be after here and out.
This is Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on July 01, 2010, 07:09:49 AM
Frank is trying to build teams and you can't do that when you have guys leaving after a year.

Oh....he went there.

Back it up and walk away.  Just walk away from that comment as soon as you can.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 01, 2010, 07:14:59 AM
Frank is trying to build teams and you can't do that when you have guys leaving after a year.

Oh....he went there.

Back it up and walk away.  Just walk away from that comment as soon as you can.

He has an accurate username at least :dunno: **

** 2000th post  :D
 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Powertard5000 on July 01, 2010, 12:27:21 PM
 I'm sorry i forgot to put IMO in my statement. If you don't like it then just STFU, thank you.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2010, 12:28:07 PM
lol.  pt5000 is my cub of the week.  He's destroying.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Powertard5000 on July 01, 2010, 12:33:24 PM
 Make me a list of rivals top 10 players Frank and Co. has OFFERED.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 01, 2010, 12:37:26 PM
lol.  pt5000 is my cub of the week.  He's destroying.

I was excited that it was going to be some fresh GPCer out to kick some goEMAW ass until I found out it was just Bam8485 from ksufans.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Powertard5000 on July 01, 2010, 12:39:20 PM
 Don't worry guys im out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Powertard5000 on July 01, 2010, 12:40:10 PM
lol.  pt5000 is my cub of the week.  He's destroying.

I was excited that it was going to be some fresh GPCer out to kick some goEMAW ass until I found out it was just Bam8485 from ksufans.



 R u my stalker?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 01, 2010, 12:41:59 PM
lol.  pt5000 is my cub of the week.  He's destroying.

I was excited that it was going to be some fresh GPCer out to kick some goEMAW ass until I found out it was just Bam8485 from ksufans.

 R u my stalker?

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 01, 2010, 12:44:58 PM
 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on July 01, 2010, 01:07:00 PM
Thanks, Bossi!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2288

:ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 01, 2010, 01:09:10 PM
 :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 01, 2010, 01:14:00 PM
 :katpak:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on July 01, 2010, 01:17:14 PM
Thanks, Bossi!

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2288

:ksu:

So far, Mississippi St and NC State are out recruiting us on the top 150 recruits.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on July 01, 2010, 01:42:17 PM
Seagars stock really soared.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheMadCatter on July 01, 2010, 02:03:39 PM
Why does Scout say we've offered D'Angelo Harrison and Rivals says we haven't?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on July 01, 2010, 02:07:28 PM
I want Seagears over Boatright and Rodriguez (obviously).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on July 01, 2010, 02:16:29 PM
lol.  pt5000 is my cub of the week.  He's destroying.

I was excited that it was going to be some fresh GPCer out to kick some goEMAW ass until I found out it was just Bam8485 from ksufans.

 R u my stalker?

PI'd him to Guest in 4 posts
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 01, 2010, 02:18:56 PM
Can we get some copy/paste here fellas?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 01, 2010, 02:19:45 PM
4 posts?  That's some quality PI'ing there Limestone.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 01, 2010, 03:12:57 PM
What is seagers star/overall ranking now?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 01, 2010, 03:21:53 PM
4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*

Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.

With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 01, 2010, 03:25:41 PM
Isn't Nino considered a SF?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 01, 2010, 03:27:36 PM
Isn't Nino considered a SF?

yeah, WTF does that have to do with anything?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on July 01, 2010, 03:39:47 PM
when i think about nino, i think about the movie "new jack city" so maybe ksu cats basketball nino will film "hoops oh so pretty" on our campus in mhk
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on July 01, 2010, 03:51:43 PM
4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*

Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.

With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson

this
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on July 01, 2010, 04:24:49 PM
4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*

Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.

With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson

this

Like it, but I'll sub Gipson for Cunningham.

I like Gipson a lot, but I'd rather have Cunningham's length.  But it's not a big difference.  I'd love either.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CrushNasty on July 01, 2010, 04:46:22 PM
4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*

Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.

With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson

this

Seagers is 98th. Nino 89th.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 01, 2010, 05:18:53 PM
With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.

with the pending addition of lawrence, 2011 recruiting just got mind-numbingly boring.  eff you, staff.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 01, 2010, 06:08:24 PM
4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*

Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.

With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson

this

Like it, but I'll sub Gipson for Cunningham.

I like Gipson a lot, but I'd rather have Cunningham's length.  But it's not a big difference.  I'd love either.
Yeah, I don't think we'd go wrong either way with Cunningham or Gipson. You have to like the way Cunningham has rocketed up the rankings and it sounds like he can step out and shoot it from distance. He would also provide more versatility on both ends of the floor and probably has more overall upside. I went with Gipson because I always think it's good to have that "enforcer" type on your team who can move people around and be a physical presence in the paint. Having seen the kid person, he's already a beast, and if you introduce him to Mr. Greenawalt, then he could just be a monster. He also has a nicely developing post game and if he can continue to improve in that area, he could be a real threat to score in the paint, not just a bruiser.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 01, 2010, 06:11:51 PM
With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.

with the pending addition of lawrence, 2011 recruiting just got mind-numbingly boring.  eff you, staff.

I hope we don't add him.  I may be falling into the kids are begging to come here trap that Frank fell into a few times but I'd rather take my chances with this class.  Plus, the class breakdown just makes more sense.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 01, 2010, 06:14:14 PM
get a pg in the fall.

cc, at least, indicates he'll still be around in the spring if the staff runs someone off then.  if not him, a currently undisclosed hs big, or a juco or a transfer.



the '12 bigs are so much better sounding than the few '11 bigs that kstate is mentioned with that not getting one in '11 hardly registers as a disappointment.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 01, 2010, 06:15:50 PM
I may be falling into the kids are begging to come here trap that Frank fell into a few times but I'd rather take my chances with this class.

even if no one else wants to come to kstate, if they take him, we'll have nothing to talk about for the rest of the summer.  surely everyone can see that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on July 01, 2010, 10:08:47 PM
we'll have nothing to talk about for the rest of the summer.  surely everyone can see that.

That never happens with KSTATEO.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 01, 2010, 11:06:02 PM
Quote from: bossi
Based on what I've seen of Rodriguez, he's a mid major type prospect.

ouch.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on July 01, 2010, 11:13:03 PM
4*, 98 overall, 106 is the cutoff ranking betwenn 4/3*

Boatright and Cunningham both also made a couple of considerable jumps(+25 spots). I know this staff hasn't oversigned in the fall period to date and I'm not a fan of doing that on a regular basis, but I wouldn't mind seeing us do that this year. Really don't want to miss out on some of these guys by telling them they have to wait until Spring.

With the pending addition of Lawrence, I don't see any way we sign more than 1 guard in this class.
Here's my wish list:
- Nino
- Boatright
- Gipson

this

Like it, but I'll sub Gipson for Cunningham.

I like Gipson a lot, but I'd rather have Cunningham's length.  But it's not a big difference.  I'd love either.
Yeah, I don't think we'd go wrong either way with Cunningham or Gipson. You have to like the way Cunningham has rocketed up the rankings and it sounds like he can step out and shoot it from distance. He would also provide more versatility on both ends of the floor and probably has more overall upside. I went with Gipson because I always think it's good to have that "enforcer" type on your team who can move people around and be a physical presence in the paint. Having seen the kid person, he's already a beast, and if you introduce him to Mr. Greenawalt, then he could just be a monster. He also has a nicely developing post game and if he can continue to improve in that area, he could be a real threat to score in the paint, not just a bruiser.


No longer mentioned with Boatright.  My list starts with Harrison; Cook/Seagars; Nino and Cunningham/Gipson.  Substantial drop for Cook.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on July 02, 2010, 06:59:25 AM
Quote from: bossi
Based on what I've seen of Rodriguez, he's a mid major type prospect.

ouch.

How dare Bossi question BallPlayers?

How dare he?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 02, 2010, 09:32:05 AM
I realize we're no longer listed on Boatright's Rivals profile, for about a  month there, it looked like we had stopped recruiting him, but there's been a couple updates within the past 20 days saying we're back in the hunt for him, 1 even indicating we had offered him.

Check P.28 and a post from sys on 6/18 and P.32 and a post from myself on 6/28 for said updates.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: canadian_breeze on July 02, 2010, 12:26:26 PM
#138 Octavious Ellis F Memphis, TN Whitehaven 3 stars 6'8" 185


his name is fuckin octavious, sign him up  :doom:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 02, 2010, 02:27:06 PM
I may be falling into the kids are begging to come here trap that Frank fell into a few times but I'd rather take my chances with this class.

even if no one else wants to come to kstate, if they take him, we'll have nothing to talk about for the rest of the summer.  surely everyone can see that.

If Nino gets cleared and we send Omari down the road 2011 recruiting BBS'ing just got taken up a couple notches.  :drool:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 02, 2010, 07:55:18 PM
If Nino gets cleared and we send Omari down the road 2011 recruiting BBS'ing just got taken up a couple notches.  :drool:

life, still worth living?  decision pending.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on July 05, 2010, 11:45:23 AM
So do we take nino this year start developing him and say GTFOOMF omari OR

take omari, send nino to a prep school and we're short at the 3 spot this year? Is this the choice we have  :dunno: need some HBRIQ here

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheMadCatter on July 05, 2010, 12:02:07 PM
So do we take nino this year start developing him and say GTFOOMF omari OR

take omari, send nino to a prep school and we're short at the 3 spot this year? Is this the choice we have  :dunno: need some HBRIQ here



Take Nino
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on July 05, 2010, 12:04:48 PM
Meek with the premium info.

Nino to enroll.

Quote
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-07-05/williams_to_enroll_at_ksu



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on July 05, 2010, 12:13:18 PM
Meek with the premium info.

Nino to enroll.

Quote
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-07-05/williams_to_enroll_at_ksu





 :runaway:  :surprised: See ya later Omari ????? or warm up the rich Connecticut alumni mother frackers
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: KSUBrian on July 05, 2010, 12:58:41 PM
Meek with the premium info.

Nino to enroll.

Quote
http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-07-05/williams_to_enroll_at_ksu




LOL at the comment from kansasman regarding it aint over yet on eligibility.  If KU can get D. Arthur eligible from the crooked school in Dallas, surely Nino coming out of a Kansas school without prior issues can get through the clearinghouse. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on July 05, 2010, 01:19:36 PM
I'm slightly hungover so help me out here. How does this change our numbers for the 2011 class. Assuming Omari is in and then assuming Omari is out. 

We lose Kelly and Pullen right?  So if Omari comes in we have one ship for 11 and two if he doesn't?  That right?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 05, 2010, 01:36:18 PM
I'm slightly hungover so help me out here. How does this change our numbers for the 2011 class. Assuming Omari is in and then assuming Omari is out. 

We lose Kelly and Pullen right?  So if Omari comes in we have one ship for 11 and two if he doesn't?  That right?

Unless we ditch Russel or Irving.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on July 05, 2010, 02:14:59 PM
Meek with the premium info.

Nino to enroll.

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-07-05/williams_to_enroll_at_ksu


LOL

Quote
"Obviously with the Sutton situation, that has changed the whole outlook and has given him an opportunity now to be on the team, which kind of changed overnight," Zeck said. "He's pretty excited. He had to go in and change his whole mindset, from possibly sitting out or redshirting to now having opportunity to play and earn minutes."

No, it was pretty much figured out months ago by BigCat and SuperG of goEMAW.com fame.




Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on July 05, 2010, 02:21:31 PM
I'm slightly hungover so help me out here. How does this change our numbers for the 2011 class. Assuming Omari is in and then assuming Omari is out. 

We lose Kelly and Pullen right?  So if Omari comes in we have one ship for 11 and two if he doesn't?  That right?

Unless we ditch Russel or Irving.

Seems like we are full, and Omari has no spot in the '10 nclass.  For '11 we'll have Jake and Curtis' spots....so two to fill for the 11 class.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on July 05, 2010, 02:33:09 PM
If Juevol isn't a fairly solid contributor this season I could see that spot opening up too.  If Irving and Sprads outplay him he'll likely be transferring to be closer to family.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 05, 2010, 04:13:57 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: KSUBrian on July 05, 2010, 04:28:23 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 05, 2010, 04:38:53 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?

Not happening fellas
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on July 05, 2010, 04:44:27 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?

pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on July 05, 2010, 05:44:33 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?

pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?

USC.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 05, 2010, 06:37:19 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Yeah you have a better chance at passing a breathalyzer than that happening.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on July 05, 2010, 09:10:20 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?

pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?

What happened to RichConnecticutBoosterCat?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 06, 2010, 07:28:24 AM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?

pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?

What happened to RichConnecticutBoosterCat?

He was make believe  :cry:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on July 06, 2010, 11:27:07 AM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?

pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?

What happened to RichConnecticutBoosterCat?

He was make believe  :cry:


The HORROR!!!!!11!!1!1!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Johnny Wichita on July 06, 2010, 12:53:37 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?
What happened to RichConnecticutBoosterCat?
He was make believe  :cry:
The HORROR!!!!!11!!1!1!!

Clarahan you sly dog!  Long time no see. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on July 06, 2010, 01:50:41 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
pfffft, the only way we get both is if we can convince Omari to go juco for a year and come next year, any body know who else omari was looking at to transfer to?
What happened to RichConnecticutBoosterCat?
He was make believe  :cry:
The HORROR!!!!!11!!1!1!!

Clarahan you sly dog!  Long time no see. 

Been busy, besides no one pays heed to my posts anyhoo.  Bunch of pups
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 06, 2010, 05:10:38 PM
Bossi comments on Gipson - "Gipson is a guy that we discussed quite a bit. We all love his toughness, how hard he plays and his willingness to do the dirty work. As it is, he's 6-6 and really has a center's game. Even with some improved face-up ability, I'm not sure how far up he'd go. I think he's a niche guy in the Big 12 but could be an ass-kicker in Conference USA, Mountain West etc."

Meyer and Bossi comment on Jordan Williams, who in case you missed it, is now ranked 124 nationally by Rivals:
Meyer - "Bossi has seen him more than me, but what I saw is a player with potential. He is great in transition with his athleticism and length. Looked like he can get going with his outside shot as well. Has the tools to be a defender as well. A guy we will watch closely."

Bossi - "Jordan is a very athletic wing with good size, excellent length and a nice array of scoring tools. As a pure talent, he's got a lot of room to go up. However, he has got to be way more consistent than he's been thus far."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 06, 2010, 05:51:43 PM
A 6'6" guy with a center's game?  No thanks, we showed one of thse types the door.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 06, 2010, 07:48:16 PM
A 6'6" guy with a center's game?  No thanks, we showed one of thse types the door.

Are you seriously trying to compare a guy who was 6'4" 195 during his final yr of HS ball to a guy who's already 6'6" 245 BEFORE his Sr yr has even begun? Even though Sutton did primarily play in the post before he went to prep school, I don't think anyone expected him to be a post player in DI ball due to his lack of height and overall body mass. Compounding his physical limitations to becoming a post player was the fact that he was an inconsisten finisher around the rim, particularly in traffic. If Dom had anywhere near the touch or finishing ability of David Hoskins, I firmly beleive he would be staying at KSU.

A far more accurate comparison to Gipson would be Ron Anderson because both are slightly undersized height wise but possess wide frames which would allow each to create space in the lane, and hopefully allow them to be effective in the post on both ends of the floor.  Unlike Sutton, both had/have a realistical projection of being a post players in high major ball, The primary difference between Anderson and Gipson before they reached college is that Anderson was chubby and out shape when he came to KSU in the Fall of 07. He was listed at 6'8" 260 but I don't think he's any taller than 6'7". Gipson right now has a man's body and it looks like he's already been involved in a college weight program the past couple years. For Gipson's sake, I hope he displays more intensity, fire, and is able to establish more of a physical presence than Anderson ever did in his time at KSU.

As Bossi alluded to in his comments, he believes Gipson projects as a "niche player" in the B12, ie a banger/enforcer type who works to create space for himself and his teammates in the lane and who finishes when given the opportunity down low. Just to give you an example of a current B12 player who has found success in a similar role, he reminds  me of Marshall Moses from Oklahoma St, minus Moses's tendency to cheap shot of course, but that's not always a terrible thing, IMO.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 06, 2010, 07:56:43 PM
You know the niche for a 6'6" center in the Big 12?  The last spot on the bench, that's the niche.  Neither Ron, nor Hoskins were centers in the Big 12 and Ron was so good that he's now playing at...Well, I don't know where he's playing but it ain't in the Big 12.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 06, 2010, 08:07:56 PM
Yeah, you must have the missed the part about Gipson already having a B!2 ready body. He already has a chance to be a much more phsyical presence than Anderson was. As I said, think of Gipson as a Marshall Moses type player.

Moses 6'7" 230(probably no taller than 6'6"), ranked #121 nationally in 07
Gipson 6'7" 245(probably no taller than 6'6"), ranked #136 nationally in 11
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 06, 2010, 08:11:58 PM
I don't believe in recruiting "niche" players.  Recruit guys you believe can be serious contributors and let them find a niche if they can't earn playing time.  Also, Moses was much more than a niche player for OSU.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 06, 2010, 08:24:18 PM
No niche players huh? So you're saying the likes of Joe Mazulla and Wellington Smith for West Virginia and Willie Veasley and Ronald Nored from Butler were completely useless in their team's Final 4 runs?

And as you apparently completely ignored, Moses' Rivals ranking out of HS is remarkably close to that of Gipson's current ranking. I'll post it for you again

Moses 6'7" 230(probably no taller than 6'6"), ranked #121 nationally in 07
Gipson 6'7" 245(probably no taller than 6'6"), ranked #136 nationally in 11
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 06, 2010, 08:33:04 PM
No, you don't recruit niche players.  You recruit people who you think can make significant contributions to a team.  If they end up only being a niche player, well they're a niche player then.  And Charles Barkley was of similar stature as these guys, are you suggesting that this guy is the next Round Mound of Rebound?  More likely, he's another short, wide body that might make a nice niche player in a major conference or a solid contributer in a mid major league.  Just like the article states.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 06, 2010, 08:46:10 PM
Charles Barkley? We went from comparing Gipson to Marshall Moses to comparing him to Charles Barkley? Where the hell did that come from? NOBODY, I mean NOBODY was saying that until you threw it in there.

The point is Gipson appears as if he can be a solid contributor on a high major team, filling a role as the "bruiser/enforcer" that can often be overlooked or underrated.

Unless you're UNC/Duke, you HAVE to recruit niche players, we're simply not going to fill our roster with 4 and 5 star players at this current stage in our program's development, there just aren't enough to go around. Hey, I'd love to be at that level as much as anybody but right now, we have to focus on landing as many overrated/overlooked guys as we can who are capable of complementing the games of the several 4 and 5 star guys we hopefully do land.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 06, 2010, 09:04:09 PM
You're totally right, let's give away 1 of 2 scholarships we have for '11 to a guy projected to be an enforcer and just hope we sign an actual talent with the other schollie.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 06, 2010, 09:14:27 PM
Given our logjam of SOPH guards, I think there's a good chance we'll have another ship open up this Spring, which means we'll have 3 to give overall.

And apparently you are completely unaware of the Big prospects we're after in the '12 class(Cauley, Nickholas, Blair)none of whom fit the banger profile.

You might be the first person to ever say the 136th best player in the country has no actual talent but just for the record, it won't break my heart if we don't land Gipson.

However, if we do offer and subsequently land him, I sure as crap won't be doing a facepalm.



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: KSUBrian on July 06, 2010, 11:49:24 PM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Yeah you have a better chance at passing a breathalyzer than that happening.
Passing a breathalyzer is a stretch (even though the only one I ever took I blew a 0.00), but why is an in-state paying his own way so far fetched?  With grants, academic/local scholarships, a good work/study "job", and student loans, it is pretty easy to pay for a year of college for a family of modest means.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 07, 2010, 02:07:32 AM
Jtksu, and underdog- great battling.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on July 07, 2010, 02:08:34 AM
Is it pretty certain that we're going to tell Omari to keep on moving?
Any chance that since Nino is in-state, he can pay his own way this year and then be on 'ship next and we can still take Omari?
Yeah you have a better chance at passing a breathalyzer than that happening.
Passing a breathalyzer is a stretch (even though the only one I ever took I blew a 0.00), but why is an in-state paying his own way so far fetched?  With grants, academic/local scholarships, a good work/study "job", and student loans, it is pretty easy to pay for a year of college for a family of modest means.

Pretty hard to talk a kid to come to your school and pay a few grand when he could go to another school for free
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 07, 2010, 02:25:03 AM
It is when his other option is prep school and paying a few grand.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on July 07, 2010, 07:47:58 AM
If Nino is a 4.0 student, is there a chance he could get an energy scholarship arranged by Frank?  If so that would be awesome  :excited:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 07, 2010, 07:59:24 AM
Almost all of you people are retards
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on July 07, 2010, 08:02:46 AM
Almost all of you people are retards

I'm glad you said almost.  Would have taken it personal if not. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 07, 2010, 08:32:18 AM
Meyer and Bossi tag team at the Adidas Invitational in Indy, and while the results are a little redundant, they are still spectacular. Highlights:

"After spending the spring with Team Texas, Jordan Williams showed up in Indianapolis with the Dallas Mustangs and had his moments. A long 6-foot-5 perimeter athlete, he can put up points in a hurry."

"Torian Graham, SG, DC Assault- One of the more pleasant surprises of the day, the Durham native got busy playing up on the 17U level. Nearly freakish with his bounce around the rim, he threw down what was easily the day's best jam when he posterized 2011 bad-man Chane Behanan at the rim while earning a foul. His jumper has a big kink in it, but he's pretty accurate with it when he can shoot in rhythm."

"In the absence of Quinn Cook, four-star point guard Jerome Seagears did an excellent job running the show for the DC Assault."

"When he's got it cooking, few players in te country can put up points at the clip Texan D'Angelo Harrison can. The 6-foot-3 shooter got hot during the morning game putting up 25 in the second half. On the school front, Harrison is refusing to list schools and says that he will re-address his recruitment after July. "

Regarding the final note on Harrison, what's up with that?

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1100693

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1100715
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on July 07, 2010, 09:09:38 AM
sounds like frank's "don't ask, don't tell" policy is in effect
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2010, 10:16:50 AM
Quote from: HardwoodElite
DeAngelo Harrison did his best to put his team on his back but fell just short. Put up 47 points in a losing effort for Franchize.

obvious showboat, bad fit, etc.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 07, 2010, 10:22:35 AM
Harrison is refusing to list schools and says that he will re-address his recruitment after July.

jesus christ, he's a perfect fit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on July 07, 2010, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: HardwoodElite
DeAngelo Harrison did his best to put his team on his back but fell just short. Put up 47 points in a losing effort for Franchize.

obvious showboat, bad fit, etc.

a one and done type.  don't want
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 07, 2010, 08:09:38 PM
not completely clear from the gpc story, but presumably lawrence gets an '11 ship.  leaving a single '11 to give.


rpi '11 recruiting fun times.

 :cry:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 07, 2010, 08:15:03 PM
not completely clear from the gpc story, but presumably lawrence gets an '11 ship.  leaving a single '11 to give.


rpi '11 recruiting fun times.

 :cry:

Yeah, that sucks...but I have faith that either Irving or the Canada Air Miles get the boot
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on July 07, 2010, 08:19:49 PM
not completely clear from the gpc story, but presumably lawrence gets an '11 ship.  leaving a single '11 to give.


rpi '11 recruiting fun times.

 :cry:

i dont think omari knows either. scholly may be contingent on him getting back in shape/practice habits, etc, and us not finding anything better.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on July 07, 2010, 08:21:44 PM
not completely clear from the gpc story, but presumably lawrence gets an '11 ship.  leaving a single '11 to give.


rpi '11 recruiting fun times.

 :cry:

Yeah, that sucks...but I have faith that either Irving or the Canada Air Miles get the boot

probably a given that somebody will leave and '11 class will be larger than one.  Not a given that we will oversign in the fall ( :pray: )...leaving only late season lameo recruiting lameness to follow.    :cry:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 07, 2010, 08:24:08 PM
...leaving only late season lameo recruiting lameness to follow.    :cry:

yeah.  spring recruiting is not fun times.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on July 07, 2010, 08:28:32 PM
Quote
Lawrence fully intends to join the team as a walk-on and attempt to earn a scholarship going forward

great job staff. i mean that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on July 07, 2010, 08:58:42 PM
...leaving only late season lameo recruiting lameness to follow.    :cry:

yeah.  spring recruiting is not fun times.

x3.  I guess they got Clemente and Kelly late.  So hopefully they'll do that or something.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on July 07, 2010, 10:48:51 PM
Unless you like sucking, be thankful we don't get more of our players in a more conventional manner. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 08, 2010, 08:52:06 AM
Nice extensive writeup from Brian Snow regarding Day 2 at Adidas Invitational linked at bottom. Some interesting school listst included in the writeup:

"Jordan Williams listed Kansas State, Texas A&M, Arizona State, Arizona, Texas Tech, Washington, Georgia, SMU, and North Texas."  We love us some wings.

"Jerome Seagears says he has offers from Cincinnati, Rutgers, DePaul, Clemson, Maryland, and Boston College with interest from Arizona and Georgetown."

Snow dedicates 4 full paragraphs praising Seagears game, just when our interest in him seemingly picks up and he's starting to blow up, POOF, we're gone. Update from Arizona site linked at very bottom also has no mention of KSU Cats.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1101012

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1100270
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 08, 2010, 08:56:50 AM
"Jerome Seagears says he has offers from Cincinnati, Rutgers, DePaul, Clemson, Maryland, and Boston College with interest from Arizona and Georgetown."

SHOW MORE INTEREST FRANK!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 08, 2010, 09:01:51 AM
"Jerome Seagears says he has offers from Cincinnati, Rutgers, DePaul, Clemson, Maryland, and Boston College with interest from Arizona and Georgetown."

SHOW MORE INTEREST FRANK!
Apparently we are not worried about getting a PG anytime soon.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on July 08, 2010, 10:15:08 AM
"Jerome Seagears says he has offers from Cincinnati, Rutgers, DePaul, Clemson, Maryland, and Boston College with interest from Arizona and Georgetown."

SHOW MORE INTEREST FRANK!
Apparently we are not worried about getting a PG anytime soon.

Frank has confused himself with his own recruiting strategy. 
He's worried that if he shows interest in a player, other coaches will know he's interested in the player and start recruiting them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 08, 2010, 10:19:20 AM
He's worried that if he shows interest in a player, other coaches will know he's interested in the player and start recruiting them.

man, what a catch 22.  if anyone can figure it out, though, this staff will do it!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on July 08, 2010, 10:35:22 AM
what happens though if our coaches (esp Underwood  :drink: ) forget which players they're "ignoring" and which players they're ignoring?

also, our beat writers are in on it, obviously, and also must ignore our recruits or face being ignored by frank and Athletic Dept.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on July 08, 2010, 10:38:50 AM
what happens though if our coaches (esp Underwood  :drink: ) forget which players they're "ignoring" and which players they're ignoring?

also, our beat writers are in on it, obviously, and also must ignore our recruits or face being ignored by frank and Athletic Dept.

Recruits are in on it as well.  They "ignore" us, and of course we "ignore" them back.  Can you imagine how exciting is to be a young mand being completely "ignored" by Frank Martin and his staff?   :ksu:  Unless of course we are actually ignoring them.   :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on July 08, 2010, 11:06:54 AM
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Antwan Space, SF, Urban DFW Elite- When you've got his size (near 6-foot-8) and you can shoot the ball like the Desoto (Texas) High wing does, things can pick up in a hurry. After a nice day on Tuesday, he was even better while we watched on Wednesday. He's got a turnaround jumper he will shoot over either shoulder, can create his shot and also plays with some athleticism. Big 12 programs like Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Missouri and Kansas State look poised to join Colorado, Houston and Gonzaga in making moves for him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on July 08, 2010, 11:37:17 AM
what happens though if our coaches (esp Underwood  :drink: ) forget which players they're "ignoring" and which players they're ignoring?

also, our beat writers are in on it, obviously, and also must ignore our recruits or face being ignored by frank and Athletic Dept.

I recommend a spreadsheet to keep track of who we are ignoring, to what extent, if the recruit is in on it, and who in the media is in on it. 

Really the only way to keep this super secrety ignoring from just getting plain messy.

Obviously 'te400K has to be the manager/inventor of this spreadsheet.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on July 08, 2010, 12:13:26 PM
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Antwan Space, SF, Urban DFW Elite- When you've got his size (near 6-foot-8) and you can shoot the ball like the Desoto (Texas) High wing does, things can pick up in a hurry. After a nice day on Tuesday, he was even better while we watched on Wednesday. He's got a turnaround jumper he will shoot over either shoulder, can create his shot and also plays with some athleticism. Big 12 programs like Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Missouri and Kansas State look poised to join Colorado, Houston and Gonzaga in making moves for him.

Sweet.  Our elite Desoto High connections from the past can't hurt here either.  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 08, 2010, 12:31:28 PM
Yeah, the DW connection will no doubt have a strong pull here, when is his jersey going up in the rafters anyway?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on July 08, 2010, 12:44:35 PM
Next month will be the 6th anniversary of him leaving us.  I was all like, WTF, Dez?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on July 08, 2010, 01:49:40 PM
Yeah, the DW connection will no doubt have a strong pull here, when is his jersey going up in the rafters anyway?

Didn't know they made midget jerseys
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 08, 2010, 01:51:22 PM
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Antwan Space, SF, Urban DFW Elite- When you've got his size (near 6-foot-8) and you can shoot the ball like the Desoto (Texas) High wing does, things can pick up in a hurry. After a nice day on Tuesday, he was even better while we watched on Wednesday. He's got a turnaround jumper he will shoot over either shoulder, can create his shot and also plays with some athleticism. Big 12 programs like Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, Missouri and Kansas State look poised to join Colorado, Houston and Gonzaga in making moves for him.

fantastic.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: JMart on July 08, 2010, 05:39:35 PM
This kid is NICE.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Terran-Petteway-100114 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Terran-Petteway-100114)

Might be too small at SF, although he has a long wingspan.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on July 08, 2010, 09:26:47 PM
This kid is NICE.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Terran-Petteway-100114 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/texashoops/basketball/recruiting/player-Terran-Petteway-100114)

Might be too small at SF, although he has a long wingspan.

are we recruiting him?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on July 09, 2010, 01:16:50 AM
Seagears > Angel. Make the right decision coaching staff. Gotta disappoint Art sometime...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 09, 2010, 10:02:05 AM
fresh off jeffrey's revelation that kstate is now looking at taking an '11 big.  jack mention.


http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/09/harkless-rules-out-uconn-jack-stars-at-hoop-group/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 09, 2010, 10:03:19 AM
fresh off jeffrey's revelation that kstate is now looking at taking an '11 big.  jack mention.


http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/09/harkless-rules-out-uconn-jack-stars-at-hoop-group/

FINALLY
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 09, 2010, 10:14:29 AM
I've only been waiting on that mention for about, 10 months or so, make it worth it Staff!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on July 09, 2010, 11:07:03 AM
Sugar Shane's been on top of this.   :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on July 09, 2010, 11:17:48 AM
fresh off jeffrey's revelation that kstate is now looking at taking an '11 big.  jack mention.


http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/09/harkless-rules-out-uconn-jack-stars-at-hoop-group/

Didn't he play with Southwell?  Same Jack?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 09, 2010, 11:44:11 AM
fresh off jeffrey's revelation that kstate is now looking at taking an '11 big.  jack mention.


http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/09/harkless-rules-out-uconn-jack-stars-at-hoop-group/

Didn't he play with Southwell?  Same Jack?

yeah.  based on tweets awhile back I think they are pretty good friends. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on July 09, 2010, 12:14:16 PM
Seff is trying to Mario Little the poor kid.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 09, 2010, 04:58:46 PM
Space update(the player, not the solar system and beyond), no mention of the KSU Cats.

"I'm hearing from Gonzaga and I have offers from Florida International, Colorado and Houston," said Space. "Missouri and Texas A&M, I've heard from them too."

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1101557
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on July 10, 2010, 05:14:04 PM
Quote
ebosshoops - Cannen Cunningham drawing Frank Martin, Tad Boyle and assts from Texas, Mizzou, Arizona State, gonzaga, Texas A&M and others.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 11, 2010, 10:02:45 AM
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The Franchize All-Starz are clearly one of the most talented teams on the circuit, [db]D'Angelo Harrison[/db] is one prospect that garners a lot of attention. The scoring guard is proving to be an absolute sniper from the outside, and he keeps racking up huge numbers in July.

Franchize played two games on Saturday, one against the Mac Irvin Fire and the other against Meanstreets. Both Chicago based teams were ready for Harrison and what he could do, but neither could come even close to stopping him.

Harrison has a natural ability to make shots. His coach gives him a green light to shoot when he feels necessary, and Harrison takes advantage of that by getting bucket after bucket. What Harrison does best is knock in shots from deep, and that is what he did in a big way on Saturday.

Most impressively Harrison makes shots without much help from his teammates. His pull-up three pointer off the dribble can be money, but also in catch and shoot situations he is just as lethal. While shooting the ball from deep is what he does best, Harrison also makes sure to attack the rim using his quickness.

While Harrison doesn't have the best handle for a guard, it is still above average, and his natural quickness allows him to beat his man and get into the lane. Once in the lane he knows how to creatively finish over taller players by using a floater or simply going all the way to the rim and scoring with a strong move.

In both games on Saturday, Harrison was well over 30 points, and each time Franchize really looked to him during the key moments of the game.


more harrison praise.  odd that franchize is in indiana instead of at gaso.  baylor youth isn't a real high profile tournament.  more chicago regional.

don't know if kstate has anyone there or not, martin is/was in tx, as tweeted above.  if anyone, it would logically be hill.


http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1101790
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: KSUBrian on July 11, 2010, 12:51:52 PM
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ebosshoops - Cannen Cunningham drawing Frank Martin, Tad Boyle and assts from Texas, Mizzou, Arizona State, gonzaga, Texas A&M and others.

If twitter would have been around at that time, would JW, TA, and DA been mentioned when they were at an event?  Hell, would have they been even recognized at an event? Or even invited?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 11, 2010, 02:21:09 PM
I really want D'Angelo Harrison. If he keeps having stud aau games he could make the jump to a five star.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Andy on July 11, 2010, 05:47:25 PM
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ebosshoops - Cannen Cunningham drawing Frank Martin, Tad Boyle and assts from Texas, Mizzou, Arizona State, gonzaga, Texas A&M and others.

If twitter would have been around at that time, would JW, TA, and DA been mentioned when they were at an event?  Hell, would have they been even recognized at an event? Or even invited?

maybe TA in his first season.  that would be it out of that group.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on July 11, 2010, 07:51:15 PM
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ebosshoops - Cannen Cunningham drawing Frank Martin, Tad Boyle and assts from Texas, Mizzou, Arizona State, gonzaga, Texas A&M and others.

If twitter would have been around at that time, would JW, TA, and DA been mentioned when they were at an event?  Hell, would have they been even recognized at an event? Or even invited?

did you not see Tad Boyle being mentioned?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 12, 2010, 08:51:54 AM
In the update linked by yosh in the '12 thread mentioning our interest in Marcus Smart(Another wing! but at least he's a Top 50 wing), there's some interesting commentary on the 2 bigs we've been mentioned to be in contact with the most, Cunningham and Gipson:

"Cannen Cunningham, PF, Brandon Bass Elite- A thin, face-up four man, Cunningham moves with fluidity, has great hands and can really run the floor. He likes to catch on the baseline, square up his man and attack off of the dribble. A bonus is that he's a very good shooter and has legitimate range to the three point line. Overall, a productive guy but he's going to have to get much stronger and college coaches watching him indicated that they would like to see him compete a bit harder."

"Thomas Gipson, PF, Texas Bluechips- Gipson played the way he always does, with physicality and effort. A brute around the rim, he uses his long arms and desire to outwork guys on the glass and make them uncomfortable. An in the paint guy all the way, his ability to keep competing has helped him out."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 12, 2010, 09:55:19 AM
http://inside.nikebasketball.com/news/wp-content/themes/inside_bb/images/elite-youth/pdfs/PeachJamSchedule.pdf

entering the best recruiting days of the summer.  enjoy.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 12, 2010, 01:31:52 PM
wow, just destroyed.

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Carolina head coach Roy Williams watched the 6-foot-10, 195-pound Chicago Perspectives forward put up 18 points, 7 rebounds, 5 steals and 4 blocks in a 55-34 blowout victory Monday over Team Florida here at the Peach Jam.

don't know why zagoria called mean streets chicago perspectives.  he's weird.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on July 12, 2010, 02:29:14 PM
wow, just destroyed.

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Carolina head coach Roy Williams watched the 6-foot-10, 195-pound Chicago Perspectives forward put up 18 points, 7 rebounds, 5 steals and 4 blocks in a 55-34 blowout victory Monday over Team Florida here at the Peach Jam.

don't know why zagoria called mean streets chicago perspectives.  he's weird.
Wow that is thin.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on July 12, 2010, 03:57:23 PM
KSU missing out on Cook and Seagers = Delonte Hill is deadweight
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on July 12, 2010, 05:46:32 PM
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- Coach Martin was in the Dallas area this past weekend to check out several prospects at the Great American Shootout AAU tourney. Per a tweet from Eric Bossi, Martin was front and center to catch Cannen Cunningham in action. Cunningham had 17 and 11 for the BB Elite in a loss to the Galveston Hornets. Commentary from Bossi regarding Cunningham and another big we've been reported to be in close contact with, Thomas Gipson, pasted below:

"Cannen Cunningham, PF, Brandon Bass Elite- A thin, face-up four man, Cunningham moves with fluidity, has great hands and can really run the floor. He likes to catch on the baseline, square up his man and attack off of the dribble. A bonus is that he's a very good shooter and has legitimate range to the three point line. Overall, a productive guy but he's going to have to get much stronger and college coaches watching him indicated that they would like to see him compete a bit harder."

"Thomas Gipson, PF, Texas Bluechips- Gipson played the way he always does, with physicality and effort. A brute around the rim, he uses his long arms and desire to outwork guys on the glass and make them uncomfortable. An in the paint guy all the way, his ability to keep competing has helped him out."

- Martin was also there checking out 6'4" 205 '12 wing prospect Marcus Smart(Flower Mound, TX). Smart is a consensus Top 50 player in that class and some recruitniks think he has the potential to be a Top 10 guy if he can keep growing which would put at a more suitable size for his natural SF position. KSU, Baylor, and Marquette are reported to be the schools showing the most interest right now. Along with Torian Graham, that makes 2 Top 100 wings that our staff is known to be aggressively pursuing at this time.

"For the past couple of months, Marcus Smart has been on the shelf while he recovered from surgery. Saturday, the 6-foot-3 guard from Flower Mound (Texas) Marcus showed little, if any, signs of rust as he authored a virtuoso performance during a tough loss to the Houston Hoopstars.

Powerfully built, the junior to be is an intensely competitive guy who would probably run over his own mother for an important rebound. However, he's also pretty skilled with the ball. He ran the point for large stretches of the game and is armed with a devastating crossover and outstanding court vision.

While not in the mold of a high flyer, he's a strong kid who rebounds the ball at a ridiculous clip and defends. Bottom line, he's a guy that makes plays and he's totally and completely about winning.

He indicated that Kansas State, Baylor and Marquette were the three schools that had been the most aggressive with him and they all had head coaches on hand to see him Saturday."

- Moving back to the Class of '11, D'Angelo Harrison has continued his tear accross the AAU circuit. He put 47 in 1 game(33 in the 2nd half) at the Adidas Invitational last week and the follwoing excerpt is from a tourney that took place in the Chicago area this past weekend:

The Franchize All-Starz are clearly one of the most talented teams on the circuit, D'Angelo Harrison is one prospect that garners a lot of attention. The scoring guard is proving to be an absolute sniper from the outside, and he keeps racking up huge numbers in July.

Franchize played two games on Saturday, one against the Mac Irvin Fire and the other against Meanstreets. Both Chicago based teams were ready for Harrison and what he could do, but neither could come even close to stopping him.

Harrison has a natural ability to make shots. His coach gives him a green light to shoot when he feels necessary, and Harrison takes advantage of that by getting bucket after bucket. What Harrison does best is knock in shots from deep, and that is what he did in a big way on Saturday.

Most impressively Harrison makes shots without much help from his teammates. His pull-up three pointer off the dribble can be money, but also in catch and shoot situations he is just as lethal. While shooting the ball from deep is what he does best, Harrison also makes sure to attack the rim using his quickness.

While Harrison doesn't have the best handle for a guard, it is still above average, and his natural quickness allows him to beat his man and get into the lane. Once in the lane he knows how to creatively finish over taller players by using a floater or simply going all the way to the rim and scoring with a strong move.

In both games on Saturday, Harrison was well over 30 points, and each time Franchize really looked to him during the key moments of the game."

- Not to be outdone, Jerome Seagears, also played well at the Adidas Invitational and pasted below is a report on his game. Interestingly, there were 2 separate recruiting updates from Seagears last week, 1 from a national reporter and 1 from the Arizona Rivals site, and neither mentioned KSU. I hope that was an oversight:

"A jet quick point guard, Seagears can get overshadowed at times during the summer by his running mate Quinn Cook, but with Cook representing the USA in Germany, it is Seagers chance to run the show and he is making the most of it.

Seagears is a 6-foot-1 and loves to push the ball with pace, but he is more than just fast, he knows how to play. Against Brookwood, Seagears made solid decisions with the basketball, got his teammates involved, and also ran the show. More than anything though he flat out had it working from the field.

Scoring is something that comes naturally for Seagers and it is because he can do it in so many ways. Seagears is excellent in using ball screens, especially going to his right, and when he does get the screen he is threat to either get a paint touch off the drive or shoot it from deep. Either way it often resulted in a bucket. Also Seagears used the step back jumper as a weapon, and it was his performance that got D.C. Assault the victory."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 12, 2010, 09:16:29 PM
martin, and perhaps another kstate coach are at the ny2la tourney in wisconsin.


teams playing include:  mokan, pray & play (formerly ks players), franchize as and kingdom hoops.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on July 12, 2010, 09:17:37 PM
Lets sign some awesome players, Cat coaches.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on July 12, 2010, 09:22:53 PM
martin, and perhaps another kstate coach are at the ny2la tourney in wisconsin.


teams playing include:  mokan, pray & play (formerly ks players), franchize as and kingdom hoops.

Wisconsin?  Does anyone who is EVER good at basketball play in Wisconsin? Is this some kind of church league that Frank is trying to find good "fit" players at or what, I just think he should be in brooklyn or houston or something, maybe at least Minneapolis... :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on July 12, 2010, 09:29:35 PM
martin, and perhaps another kstate coach are at the ny2la tourney in wisconsin.


teams playing include:  mokan, pray & play (formerly ks players), franchize as and kingdom hoops.

Wisconsin?  Does anyone who is EVER good at basketball play in Wisconsin? Is this some kind of church league that Frank is trying to find good "fit" players at or what, I just think he should be in brooklyn or houston or something, maybe at least Minneapolis... :dunno:

http://prephoopsassist.com/2010/05/25/top-20-grassrootsaau-basketball-clubs-05-25-2010/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: VGibsonLives on July 12, 2010, 10:50:33 PM
thebballreport :
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Tenn, Louisville, Kansas, Kansas State, St. John's, Miami, Notre Dame, Cincinnati all checking out Celtics and Pray and Play.
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Dream Vision vs. Franchize coming up. Lorenzo Romar, Rick Pitino and assistants from Marquette, Tennessee, Kansas, Indiana, UCLA, Cincinnati

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Frank Martin just joined the party as well.



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on July 13, 2010, 09:12:59 AM
martin, and perhaps another kstate coach are at the ny2la tourney in wisconsin.


teams playing include:  mokan, pray & play (formerly ks players), franchize as and kingdom hoops.

Wisconsin?  Does anyone who is EVER good at basketball play in Wisconsin? Is this some kind of church league that Frank is trying to find good "fit" players at or what, I just think he should be in brooklyn or houston or something, maybe at least Minneapolis... :dunno:

Latrell Sprewell.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 13, 2010, 11:11:55 AM
Jack update from NYC hoops, we're in the hunt.

"As for Jack's interesting recruiting process, it seems like every few weeks, someone new gets into the equation. "My list is Texas, Kansas State, Kansas, St. John's, Rutgers, Memphis, Xavier, Miami, UConn, West Virginia, Arkansas and Arizona." He claims offers from all of the schools except for Texas, Kansas and Kansas State. He is still considering North Carolina and Kentucky, as well, but the other schools are his main focus. One thing is positive for Jack at the moment. "I will make my decision come September." His plan is to see which college coaches will show him the most interest and which schools will jump in this summer and then narrow it down. Jack has his plans set."

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1101776
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on July 13, 2010, 08:40:02 PM
He's a 12 now right?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 13, 2010, 09:05:47 PM
He's a 12 now right?

No, he was orignally a '10 but decided to reclassify to '11 and go to prep school to improve his game and earn better offers(waiting on the EMAW offer no doubt   :crossfingers:).
If you're able to read his Rivals updates, it was really a pretty interesting saga regarding his decision to reclassify to '11.

Currently ranked 82nd nationally by Rivals in '11, profile linked below.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Kadeem-Jack-84080
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 13, 2010, 09:25:07 PM
New prospect, Adrian Diaz 7'0" 205 out of Hialeah, FL(Hialeah-Miami Lakes HS) runs AAU with Gold Coast. Member(s?) of our staff were on the scene at the Breakdown Hoops Festival in Miami area scouting Diaz and known '12 combo guard target Ian Baker. Positive commentary on both Diaz and Baker included in free report linked below.

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1102580
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on July 13, 2010, 10:05:37 PM
He's a 12 now right?

No, he was orignally a '10 but decided to reclassify to '11 and go to prep school to improve his game and earn better offers(waiting on the EMAW offer no doubt  :nono:).
If you're able to read his Rivals updates, it was really a pretty interesting saga regarding his decision to reclassify to '11.

Currently ranked 82nd nationally by Rivals in '11, profile linked below.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Kadeem-Jack-84080

So we have to boot someone else to take him in 11? or do we have 1 left for 11?  sorry.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 13, 2010, 11:36:36 PM
So we have to boot someone else to take him in 11? or do we have 1 left for 11?  sorry.

there is 1 'ship left for '11, assuming lawrence gets an '11 ship.  however, jeffrey has indicated that the staff is looking at taking two.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on July 14, 2010, 09:36:42 AM
odds we end up taking 3 in 11': 80% (if not higher)


if we have 3 scholarships available:
Omari gets a scholly: 75%
that scholly goes to someone else: 25%

if we only have 2 available:
odds Omari gets a scholly: 40%
that scholly goes to someone else:60%



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 14, 2010, 09:54:10 AM
odds we end up taking 3 in 11': 80% (if not higher)


if we have 3 scholarships available:
Omari gets a scholly: 75%
that scholly goes to someone else: 25%

if we only have 2 available:
odds Omari gets a scholly: 40%
that scholly goes to someone else:60%

I cannot see any potential scenario where Frank does not put Omari on scholly. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on July 14, 2010, 10:06:50 AM
odds we end up taking 3 in 11': 80% (if not higher)


if we have 3 scholarships available:
Omari gets a scholly: 75%
that scholly goes to someone else: 25%

if we only have 2 available:
odds Omari gets a scholly: 40%
that scholly goes to someone else:60%

I cannot see any potential scenario where Frank does not put Omari on scholly. 

I should have made the %'s more like 90% and 10% for Omari's scholly if we have 3 available.

If somehow we only have 2, and two better players are available, I could definitely see us taking them (as we should).

Looking at the %'s it's still less than a 10% chance Omari doesn't end up on scholarship.

I think the staff took Omari assuming that they'd have 3 scholarship's available for '11 all along. By far makes the most sense to me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on July 14, 2010, 10:19:22 AM
I cannot see any potential scenario where Frank does not put Omari on scholly. 

He sucks and/or is team cancer (hard-to-beat type) and/or is still fat and goes the way of Abdul, Buchi and the funny guy.  :dunno:

I guess you probably mean there's no way he continues on EMAW as a walk-on, but I think my scenario has a fair possibilty of coming true.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on July 14, 2010, 10:47:59 AM
I cannot see any potential scenario where Frank does not put Omari on scholly. 

He sucks and/or is team cancer (hard-to-beat type) and/or is still fat and goes the way of Abdul, Buchi and the funny guy.  :dunno:

I guess you probably mean there's no way he continues on EMAW as a walk-on, but I think my scenario has a fair possibilty of coming true.
Yeah he seems like the type that could get caught up in the Manhattan lifestyle and stop caring so much for catsketball.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 14, 2010, 03:34:29 PM
Top 13 at GASO from Texas Hoops. Not that it means a whole lot but Marcus Smart and Jordan Williams make the list but Cunningham and Gipson weren't included:
 
MARCUS SMART
Class: 2012
Height: 6-3
Position: SF
School/AAU team: Flower Mound Marcus HS/Texas Assault
Notable: It's hard to classify Smart's true position, because he plays all five of them quite well. Smart had one of his best games against the Galveston Hornets, where he had 27 points and 15 boards. Smart is one of those players who rarely make an error.
 
JORDAN WILLIAMS
Class: 2011
Height: 6-6
Position: SF
School/AAU team: The Colony HS/Dallas Mustangs
Notable: Williams recently joined the Mustangs, and in his short span, he has yet to disappoint. Williams showed an ability to score inside and out, and he made scouts look twice with his defensive play. Keep an eye on Williams in Las Vegas in a few days.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=134919381&sid=889&tid=134919381&style=2&Override=1
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on July 14, 2010, 03:35:53 PM
odds we end up taking 3 in 11': 80% (if not higher)


if we have 3 scholarships available:
Omari gets a scholly: 75%
that scholly goes to someone else: 25%

if we only have 2 available:
odds Omari gets a scholly: 40%
that scholly goes to someone else:60%

I cannot see any potential scenario where Frank does not put Omari on scholly. 


He's kicked off/quits?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 14, 2010, 06:04:19 PM
What about a scenerio involving the coaches recruiting like we have 3 to give and not giving Omari one because we end up signing 3 better players?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 14, 2010, 06:34:38 PM
Omari will be on scholly.   :zzz:

Martavious could leave and I would be  :)

If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be  :barf:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 14, 2010, 06:57:58 PM
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be  :barf:

i'm guessing he'll be about as good as gpc thinks irving was.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on July 14, 2010, 07:57:31 PM
So we have to boot someone else to take him in 11? or do we have 1 left for 11?  sorry.

there is 1 'ship left for '11, assuming lawrence gets an '11 ship.  however, jeffrey has indicated that the staff is looking at taking two.

thx.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on July 14, 2010, 10:16:12 PM
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be  :barf:

I'd love a Buchi type situation with Juevol.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 14, 2010, 11:33:58 PM
Frank scouting Diaz in person:

"Diaz watched by some big teams: Word is getting out even more about 7-foot center Adrian Diaz of Gold Coast with Kansas State's Frank Martin and Florida State assistant Andy Enfield just two of the coaches keeping an eye on Court 2 Wednesday evening.

Diaz, from Hialeah (Fla.) Hialeah-Miami Lakes, was much better Tuesday night than Wednesday but still showed some of the skills that have set him apart in this tournament - good passing from the post, running the floor well in transition and the ability to alter and block shots."

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103034
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on July 15, 2010, 09:08:55 AM
Frank scouting Diaz in person:

"Diaz watched by some big teams: Word is getting out even more about 7-foot center Adrian Diaz of Gold Coast with Kansas State's Frank Martin and Florida State assistant Andy Enfield just two of the coaches keeping an eye on Court 2 Wednesday evening.

Diaz, from Hialeah (Fla.) Hialeah-Miami Lakes, was much better Tuesday night than Wednesday but still showed some of the skills that have set him apart in this tournament - good passing from the post, running the floor well in transition and the ability to alter and block shots."

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103034


"Diaz"...so we should be a lock on this kid right?  Que?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on July 15, 2010, 10:24:58 AM
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be  :barf:

i'm guessing he'll be about as good as gpc thinks irving was.

I hold out hope that he becomes a solid role player, but then I think about the fact that I don't want my point guard to be a role player, and I get all  :ohno:.

I'm still all  :crossfingers: though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2010, 11:06:56 AM
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be  :barf:

i'm guessing he'll be about as good as gpc thinks irving was.

I hold out hope that he becomes a solid role player, but then I think about the fact that I don't want my point guard to be a role player, and I get all  :ohno:.

I'm still all  :crossfingers: though.

Wasn't he just a solid role player for his AAU and then Juco?  Seems unlikely he does better at the D1 level than he did there, you know?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 15, 2010, 11:31:52 AM
Frank scouting Diaz in person:

"Diaz watched by some big teams: Word is getting out even more about 7-foot center Adrian Diaz of Gold Coast with Kansas State's Frank Martin and Florida State assistant Andy Enfield just two of the coaches keeping an eye on Court 2 Wednesday evening.

Diaz, from Hialeah (Fla.) Hialeah-Miami Lakes, was much better Tuesday night than Wednesday but still showed some of the skills that have set him apart in this tournament - good passing from the post, running the floor well in transition and the ability to alter and block shots."

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103034


"Diaz"...so we should be a lock on this kid right?  Que?

Done Deal  :doom:

In all seriousness, I think the EMAW Elite offer for Diaz might be a stretch at this point. As far as I can tell, no other high-majors have offered him yet and it sounds like he's just starting to tap into his potential. He's a "young" SR to be as he just turned 17.

There was an update from about a month back indicating that Miami and Indiana were interested in addition to the news that Syracuse and Alabama are starting to look at him along w/KSU. So there is some interest from the big boys, I think everybody is waiting to see if he can consistently play at a high level because he has really been under the radar up until now.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on July 15, 2010, 11:46:00 AM
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be  :barf:

i'm guessing he'll be about as good as gpc thinks irving was.

I hold out hope that he becomes a solid role player, but then I think about the fact that I don't want my point guard to be a role player, and I get all  :ohno:.

I'm still all  :crossfingers: though.

Wasn't he just a solid role player for his AAU and then Juco?  Seems unlikely he does better at the D1 level than he did there, you know?

Stop killing my dream, dreamkiller.  :curse:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on July 15, 2010, 11:50:01 AM
If the Canadian is not better than Irving I will be  :barf:

i'm guessing he'll be about as good as gpc thinks irving was.

I hold out hope that he becomes a solid role player, but then I think about the fact that I don't want my point guard to be a role player, and I get all  :ohno:.

I'm still all  :crossfingers: though.

Wasn't he just a solid role player for his AAU and then Juco?  Seems unlikely he does better at the D1 level than he did there, you know?
Late bloomer?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on July 16, 2010, 05:41:09 PM
robcassidy22
Quote

Already stocked with guards, Frank Martin's staff turns its attention to forwards: http://tinyurl.com/34zko8l  #Kstate


Anyone recap if this is old info on Cunningham?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 16, 2010, 05:44:18 PM
robcassidy22
Quote

Already stocked with guards, Frank Martin's staff turns its attention to forwards: http://tinyurl.com/34zko8l  #Kstate


Anyone recap if this is old info on Cunningham?

He's been on campus once.  We are in his top five.  He may visit campus again.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 18, 2010, 05:14:31 PM
We magically reappeared on Seagears' list, if there was an emoticon for "sigh of relief", I would post that here.

"Jerome Seagears is catching the most interest from Kansas State, Clemson, DePaul, Maryland, Rutgers, and North Carolina State."

FWIW, Seagears was named 3rd team All tourney at the Best Buy Summer Classic held in Minnie the past few days.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103861
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on July 18, 2010, 06:23:30 PM
We magically reappeared on Seagears' list, if there was an emoticon for "sigh of relief", I would post that here.

"Jerome Seagears is catching the most interest from Kansas State, Clemson, DePaul, Maryland, Rutgers, and North Carolina State."

FWIW, Seagears was named 3rd team All tourney at the Best Buy Summer Classic held in Minnie the past few days.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1103861


(http://skins.hotbar.com/skins/mailskins/em/020106/020106TA25_prv.gif) <Best I could find
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: StayOutOfTrees on July 18, 2010, 08:34:32 PM
(http://www.darkdawnstudios.com/pictures/SighOfRelief.gif)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on July 19, 2010, 03:09:11 PM
Heard from a VERY close source to the DC Assault program that Seagears might be as good as Cook. Not kidding. He just said Jerome is flying under the radar big time because of Quinn.

I sent J.S. a message on facebook, here was his response:

Me:
Quote
i was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol

Jerome:
Quote
most definally man. love k state

This goEMAW.com recruiting update was brought to you by Pett.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 19, 2010, 03:11:59 PM
Good job Pett.  Nice to have a man in the field working his ass off!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on July 19, 2010, 03:12:49 PM
Heard from a VERY close source to the DC Assault program that Seagears might be as good as Cook. Not kidding. He just said Jerome is flying under the radar big time because of Quinn.

I sent J.S. a message on facebook, here was his response:

Me:
Quote
i was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol

Jerome:
Quote
most definally man. love k state

This goEMAW.com recruiting update was brought to you by Pett.
:love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 19, 2010, 03:14:32 PM
Heard from a VERY close source to the DC Assault program that Seagears might be as good as Cook. Not kidding. He just said Jerome is flying under the radar big time because of Quinn.

I sent J.S. a message on facebook, here was his response:

Me:
Quote
i was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol

Jerome:
Quote
most definally man. love k state

This goEMAW.com recruiting update was brought to you by Pett.
Way to pick up the slack
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on July 19, 2010, 03:18:36 PM
Heard from a VERY close source to the DC Assault program that Seagears might be as good as Cook. Not kidding. He just said Jerome is flying under the radar big time because of Quinn.

I sent J.S. a message on facebook, here was his response:

Me:
Quote
i was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol

Jerome:
Quote
most definally man. love k state

This goEMAW.com recruiting update was brought to you by Pett.
Way to pick up the slack

The competition at this position is very healthy to the program here at goEMAW.  Great work to both of you.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 19, 2010, 03:24:28 PM
good job, pett.  and good report
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ajc on July 19, 2010, 04:23:55 PM
Heard from a VERY close source to the DC Assault program that Seagears might be as good as Cook. Not kidding. He just said Jerome is flying under the radar big time because of Quinn.

I sent J.S. a message on facebook, here was his response:

Me:
Quote
i was talking to some fellow kstate fans and we were getting excited about the thought of you becoming a wildcat. are we high on your list? lol

Jerome:
Quote
most definally man. love k state

This goEMAW.com recruiting update was brought to you by Pett.

I think it is unhealthy how excited that comment made me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on July 19, 2010, 04:42:25 PM
So are we going to offer Seagears?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on July 19, 2010, 07:43:23 PM
So are we going to offer Seagears?

If so, assuming Lawrence goes on scholarship, we've got one to give in 2011.

Unless we don't give him a scholarship and/or run someone off.  Then we get two to use.

Cunningham and Seagears maybe?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on July 19, 2010, 07:45:16 PM
So are we going to offer Seagears?

If so, assuming Lawrence goes on scholarship, we've got one to give in 2011.

Unless we don't give him a scholarship and/or run someone off.  Then we get two to use.

Cunningham and Seagears maybe?

Ya, has to be a Big and a Pointish guard, doesn't it?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on July 19, 2010, 08:17:01 PM
So are we going to offer Seagears?

If so, assuming Lawrence goes on scholarship, we've got one to give in 2011.

Unless we don't give him a scholarship and/or run someone off.  Then we get two to use.

Cunningham and Seagears maybe?

Ya, has to be a Big and a Pointish guard, doesn't it?

Seems like it makes the most sense.

Then take two bigs in the next class when Asprilla and Samuels graduate.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on July 19, 2010, 08:27:42 PM
Seagears and Cunningham/Jack seems like a damn solid get for 11 if we end up with 2 somehow assuming Omari gets a scholly

Seems like we have been getting more interest from Cunningham than Jack?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: K-ST8ED on July 19, 2010, 10:02:25 PM
Wow, what a update by Pett!! :bball:

This is just me going off of my gut, but I am saying that we will sign two more players for 2011 and not including Lawrence going on scholly. I am just guessing that someone will opt to leave the program again next year, freeing up a space for Seagears and a big. I mean, look at the last few years. At least one player leaving, so why cant/wont that happen again?? :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 19, 2010, 11:37:34 PM
two guards.  maybe (maybe) an '11 big if they can get a solid early commit from graham for '12.



the '11 bigs kstate is mentioned with just are not elite.  that and the backcourt roster right now is kinda scary.  maybe it'll feel different after this season?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on July 19, 2010, 11:46:25 PM
what are the chances that russell shoots 40 percent?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 20, 2010, 08:13:15 AM
If we don't get a good PG I will throw up
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on July 20, 2010, 05:48:40 PM
If we don't get a good PG I will throw up

I keep hoping lack of updates from Rodriguez means he's not in the fold.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 20, 2010, 05:57:57 PM
I keep hoping lack of updates from Rodriguez means he's not in the fold.

a) it doesn't.  b) bossi has maybe seen him play five minutes, ever.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on July 21, 2010, 07:33:49 PM
If we don't get a good PG I will throw up

+1
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: babytears on July 21, 2010, 09:09:08 PM
Does dobbie ever post at this new place ya got here?  If not, you should really think about inviting that melon-headed son of a bitch to join in so he can help with these recruiting battles.  If you want to win a war, your army needs to have a killer general.  Dude is a whiz.  And not a creep.



 :comehere: :comehere: :comehere:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 21, 2010, 10:44:02 PM
Cook update

Quote
"Duke hasn't offered yet, but they are on me pretty hard," said Cook, who will attend Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Academy this year. "Coach K has called me a couple times recently, and Coach (Nate) James has been to all my games and even came to Germany to watch me. They are supposed to be at all my games in Las Vegas, too.

Along with Duke and North Carolina, Cook listed Villanova, Arizona, UCLA, Connecticut, Georgetown, West Virginia, Wake Forest and St. John's as his schools of interest. All of those schools have offered Cook.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on July 22, 2010, 09:24:21 AM
Cook update

Quote
"Duke hasn't offered yet, but they are on me pretty hard," said Cook, who will attend Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Academy this year. "Coach K has called me a couple times recently, and Coach (Nate) James has been to all my games and even came to Germany to watch me. They are supposed to be at all my games in Las Vegas, too.

Along with Duke and North Carolina, Cook listed Villanova, Arizona, UCLA, Connecticut, Georgetown, West Virginia, Wake Forest and St. John's as his schools of interest. All of those schools have offered Cook.

Wow.  That prob makes his mind up.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 22, 2010, 11:24:24 AM
Seagears shrank!

"Jerome Seagears, DC Assualt, 5’10”, 185 lbs, senior point guard – Seagears leads and scores from multiple scenarios on the floor. Is solidifying his jumper."

Exact same website listed him at 6'1" 175 3 mos ago. :dunno:

Update also has high praise for Jarvis Threatt, who's probably the backup to our backup plan along with the likes of Ben Dillard and Terrence Durham.

http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20super%20elite%20showcase%2010%20all%20stars.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on July 22, 2010, 11:31:05 AM
 :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on July 22, 2010, 01:36:21 PM
Seagears & Harrison:  '11 'cruit class   :pray: :crossfingers: :love: :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 22, 2010, 01:41:08 PM
Seagears & Harrison:  '11 'cruit class   :pray: :crossfingers: :love: :ksu:
Would be elite.
Have we offered harrison? Last time i checked rivals.com it said we have not offered.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on July 22, 2010, 01:45:55 PM
Seagears & Harrison:  '11 'cruit class   :pray: :crossfingers: :love: :ksu:
Would be elite.
Have we offered harrison? Last time i checked rivals.com it said we have not offered.


From an April article:

Quote
Next season will be Harrison’s last before he departs for a Division I college. He has received scholarship offers from Kansas State, Texas A&M, Arizona State, Arkansas and Oklahoma State among others. At this point, he said, Kansas State and Texas A&M are at the top of his list.

http://www.hcnonline.com/articles/2010/04/16/fort_bend_sun/sports/sws_-_harrison_poty.txt
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on July 22, 2010, 01:49:54 PM
Doubt we get either.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on July 22, 2010, 01:53:53 PM
Doubt we get either.

After our NC, we'll be a lock. :D
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 22, 2010, 01:56:56 PM
I have a feeling that D'Angelo Harrison will make the jump from a high 4 star to a low level 5 star. That guy can absolutely fill it up.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 22, 2010, 04:57:48 PM
Cook update

Quote
"Duke hasn't offered yet, but they are on me pretty hard," said Cook, who will attend Mouth of Wilson (Va.) Oak Hill Academy this year. "Coach K has called me a couple times recently, and Coach (Nate) James has been to all my games and even came to Germany to watch me. They are supposed to be at all my games in Las Vegas, too.

Along with Duke and North Carolina, Cook listed Villanova, Arizona, UCLA, Connecticut, Georgetown, West Virginia, Wake Forest and St. John's as his schools of interest. All of those schools have offered Cook.

From Dave Telep Twitter "Move of summer. Arizona commit Sidiki Johnson now with Quinn Cook and DC Assault. Savvy. "

Sean Miller ain't throwin the towel in just yet, crafty SOB.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 22, 2010, 05:30:20 PM
Bye Quinn, teased....
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: dobbie4ksu on July 22, 2010, 08:00:12 PM
Does dobbie ever post at this new place ya got here?  If not, you should really think about inviting that melon-headed son of a bitch to join in so he can help with these recruiting battles.  If you want to win a war, your army needs to have a killer general.  Dude is a whiz.  And not a creep.



 :comehere: :comehere: :comehere:
I'm back bitches, and I am not afraid to look into anything that is what makes me the best recruiter (that's not really a recruiter) of all time
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 22, 2010, 09:43:40 PM
Show me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 22, 2010, 11:10:04 PM
http://www.i95ballerz.com/story%20-%20super%20elite%20showcase%2010%20all%20stars.html

blake bozeman!

 :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on July 22, 2010, 11:12:44 PM
do you cruiting xperts really think that we're going to get anyone good in 11?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on July 22, 2010, 11:39:01 PM
do you cruiting xperts really think that we're going to get anyone good in 11?

Maybe 1.  I think the ideas that we will either oversign in the fall (with multiple good players) or get someone good in the spring after booting Martavious are far-fetched.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 23, 2010, 12:54:59 AM
I just want D'Angelo Harrison.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on July 23, 2010, 02:49:26 PM
Quote
KCPREPHOOPS
 
2011 Anthony Davis of Meanstreets is big, tough and explosive - May be best player in KC this week. Apparently great student too
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 24, 2010, 05:07:11 PM
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1105791

Harrison Ripping it up.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 24, 2010, 07:53:10 PM
Another Scout update from Vegas, this time analyzing Cunningham. Now that they've had a chance to watch him, I'll be interested to see if the Scout guys put him in their Top 100 at the end of the summer.

"Cannen Cunningham, C/PF, Brandon Bass Elite: We’d expect most high-majors in need of a big to take a tour through his gym and extend him a look-see. Cunningham is a big who prefers facing and driving to working back to the basket. Definitely more of a skill guy than a power player. There’s an element of upside to his game."

"Cannen Cunningham had Clemson’s Brad Brownell, Texas Tech’s Pat Knight and Western Kentucky’s Ken McDonald. "

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/986069.html
 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 25, 2010, 03:03:14 AM
"leader out of the big 12", what a tease.


http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0724/orlando-aau-update-part-ii/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 25, 2010, 08:33:37 AM
No suprisingly we don't make Cook's list of 9

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/24/harkless-blowing-up-in-vegas/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 25, 2010, 01:45:14 PM
Quote
Each 1 Teach 1 vs. Houston Hoops. So is Kansas (Self), Mississippi State, Kansas State, Florida, Austin Peay, LSU and many more

northstar tweet.

had to check, 'cause i couldn't think of any e1t1 or hh players that kstate recruits.  apparently, they have recruited jonathan holton of e1t1 some.  could also indicate a new name.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 26, 2010, 08:55:49 AM
Another possible big for '11 but 1st JC prospect I'm aware of(Can we really count Widgett Washington?),  played his FR yr at Cowley Co and followed Eck to Hutch where he redshirted last yr. Xavier, Cincy, and Indiana have all been named as being in heavy pursuit of him prior to this update.

"Robert Goff, PF, Hutchinson CC- Likely the top big man prospect in the junior college ranks, the Indianapolis native has really made strides under head coach Steve Eck. Explosive off the floor, he rises above the crowd for backboard shaking dunks, runs the floor and contests shots around the rim. Love the way he finishes with either hand. Among those involved or looking to be are Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, South Florida, Alabama and Oregon."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106072
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on July 26, 2010, 09:05:35 AM
Another possible big for '11 but 1st JC prospect I'm aware of(Can we really count Widgett Washington?),  played his FR yr at Cowley Co and followed Eck to Hutch where he redshirted last yr. Xavier, Cincy, and Indiana have all been named as being in heavy pursuit of him prior to this update.

"Robert Goff, PF, Hutchinson CC- Likely the top big man prospect in the junior college ranks, the Indianapolis native has really made strides under head coach Steve Eck. Explosive off the floor, he rises above the crowd for backboard shaking dunks, runs the floor and contests shots around the rim. Love the way he finishes with either hand. Among those involved or looking to be are Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, South Florida, Alabama and Oregon."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106072

sounds like a good player, but damn, do we need to add anyone else to that class?  also from that article - how's this for a name "God's Gift Achiuwa". 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 26, 2010, 09:46:30 AM
Considering that Goff is a JC kid and he hasn't played in an actual game in 2 years, this MIGHT be evidence that we're considering to wait until Spring to fill a scolly (AFTER we've made the decision who to run or convince to voluntarily leave.) Will definitely be interesting to see what happens to all of our HS big prospects(and all prospects for that matter) in the early period.

I guess the philosophy is "keep all of your options open at all times", especially until someone actually commits/signs in this class.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 26, 2010, 10:57:13 AM
Quote
Each 1 Teach 1 vs. Houston Hoops. So is Kansas (Self), Mississippi State, Kansas State, Florida, Austin Peay, LSU and many more

northstar tweet.

had to check, 'cause i couldn't think of any e1t1 or hh players that kstate recruits.  apparently, they have recruited jonathan holton of e1t1 some.  could also indicate a new name.

per northstar, kstate is watching e1t1 vs westchester hawks today.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 26, 2010, 12:31:07 PM
Quote
Each 1 Teach 1 vs. Houston Hoops. So is Kansas (Self), Mississippi State, Kansas State, Florida, Austin Peay, LSU and many more

northstar tweet.

had to check, 'cause i couldn't think of any e1t1 or hh players that kstate recruits.  apparently, they have recruited jonathan holton of e1t1 some.  could also indicate a new name.

per northstar, kstate is watching e1t1 vs westchester hawks today.
We're making a run at Austin Rivers!  :powerespect:

It's probably just as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to think we're trying to get in on Trevor Lacey. As sys opined above, the most probable suspect is Jonathan Holton.

FWIW, E1T1 is supposed to be taking on Team Takeover(DC) tonight on ESPNU at 6 CST.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 26, 2010, 08:13:45 PM
Goff Article

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100723/SPORTS0615/7230351/1287/SPORTS/Goff-now-does-more-than-just-dunk

I like the idea of this kid since we need a power forward (hopefully Judge stays  :crossfingers:) and he's probably better than the HS prospects.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on July 27, 2010, 11:34:48 AM
watched goff play in high school. he was the leading scorer on a fairly bad team but kept them in a lot of games. real athletic kid. He would work really well in franks system. He like to get up and down in transition. Plus, he played top-notch competition in high school
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 27, 2010, 01:08:24 PM
Thanks for the scouting report GVWC. In the article wabashcannonball posted, Goff said he wants to sign early, so I guess there goes my whole "wait until late" theory!

Don't really know what's up here, especially given the recent revelation that DPete could be in play, but another JC prospect we've been after is Carlos Emory, 6'6" 225 wing from Howard(TX) JC. Originally from Minneapolis, he was a major contributor on Howard's Nat'l championship team last year. I had no idea we were recruiting him but a Scout update from 5/10 confirms we've been contacting him for awhile. From the more recent Rivals update:

"Right now I would have to say Gonzaga, Santa Clara, Baylor, Kansas State, they are showing the most interest," Emory said

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106711
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 28, 2010, 06:30:59 AM
Another possible big for '11 but 1st JC prospect I'm aware of(Can we really count Widgett Washington?),  played his FR yr at Cowley Co and followed Eck to Hutch where he redshirted last yr. Xavier, Cincy, and Indiana have all been named as being in heavy pursuit of him prior to this update.

"Robert Goff, PF, Hutchinson CC- Likely the top big man prospect in the junior college ranks, the Indianapolis native has really made strides under head coach Steve Eck. Explosive off the floor, he rises above the crowd for backboard shaking dunks, runs the floor and contests shots around the rim. Love the way he finishes with either hand. Among those involved or looking to be are Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, South Florida, Alabama and Oregon."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106072

So I know nobody wants this guy because we have too many '09 players on our roster but say what if Judge goes pro after this year (30/70 chance in my eyes). This kid looks to have Judge-ish upside, but I read he didn't start getting serious about playing basketball until he was a sophomore and still got offers from Indiana and Purdue out of high school.

Anyway, I went to his Facebook page and somehow his cell phone number wasn't hidden so I texted him. (I know that's 42's job but wth)

Me: Hey r u being recruited by kstate?

RG: Yea I am being recruited by them

Me: Alright thanks keep working hard and maybe you'll get an offer and by the way manhattan is a million times better than hutch. Good luck this yr

RG: Lol thanks

 :gocho:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on July 28, 2010, 06:51:27 AM
Another possible big for '11 but 1st JC prospect I'm aware of(Can we really count Widgett Washington?),  played his FR yr at Cowley Co and followed Eck to Hutch where he redshirted last yr. Xavier, Cincy, and Indiana have all been named as being in heavy pursuit of him prior to this update.

"Robert Goff, PF, Hutchinson CC- Likely the top big man prospect in the junior college ranks, the Indianapolis native has really made strides under head coach Steve Eck. Explosive off the floor, he rises above the crowd for backboard shaking dunks, runs the floor and contests shots around the rim. Love the way he finishes with either hand. Among those involved or looking to be are Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, South Florida, Alabama and Oregon."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1106072

So I know nobody wants this guy because we have too many '09 players on our roster but say what if Judge goes pro after this year (30/70 chance in my eyes). This kid looks to have Judge-ish upside, but I read he didn't start getting serious about playing basketball until he was a sophomore and still got offers from Indiana and Purdue out of high school.

Anyway, I went to his Facebook page and somehow his cell phone number wasn't hidden so I texted him. (I know that's 42's job but wth)

Me: Hey r u being recruited by kstate?

RG: Yea I am being recruited by them

Me: Alright thanks keep working hard and maybe you'll get an offer and by the way manhattan is a million times better than hutch. Good luck this yr

RG: Lol thanks

 :gocho:

Great work
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 28, 2010, 06:54:19 AM
Thanks, pretty sad that I subscribe to GPC and I know more about bball recruiting than the staff over there.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on July 28, 2010, 06:55:55 AM
Thanks, pretty sad that I subscribe to GPC and I know more about bball recruiting than the staff over there.

Ya, you belong to a huge and growing group.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 28, 2010, 12:53:37 PM
Evan Daniels from the Desert Duel in Phoenix:

"Jerome Seagers won some coaches over on Tuesday."  :crossfingers:

Also had some interesting commentary on Jordan Williams, who has now shrunk to 6'4".  Says he shoots it well from deep off the catch, attacks the rim and is a dynamic finisher, and overall is a "high mid-major prospect if not higher"

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/987025.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 28, 2010, 12:59:24 PM
Underdog- great.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 28, 2010, 01:06:13 PM
ksf42 - BITB
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 28, 2010, 01:09:25 PM
Pardon me, WHAT do you mean. Still getting the abbreviations down.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 28, 2010, 01:14:13 PM
BITB = Best In The Business!

Dammit, didn't you have to pass that acronym entrance exam before you could start posting here like I did?  :katpak:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 28, 2010, 01:16:06 PM
shhhhh.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 28, 2010, 07:17:41 PM
Quote from: dave telep
Like Gold Coast. Austin Keel is mid major. Jonathan Holton could be a HM out of necessity and Adrian Diaz is a prospect

two great reason to go all perimeter in '11.  if they even still have a 'ship to give out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 28, 2010, 09:43:26 PM
Quote
Lack of bigs in 2011 has guys perplexed. "it's not if he's good enough it's what can u tolerate and can u make him better?"

don't fall into the trap of tolerating players, staff.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on July 28, 2010, 10:28:21 PM
Quote
Lack of bigs in 2011 has guys perplexed. "it's not if he's good enough it's what can u tolerate and can u make him better?"

don't fall into the trap of tolerating players, staff.

for me, it's cunningham, jack or bust.  i don't want mergerson, i don't want holton, i don't want diaz.  i'm borderline on gipson.  we really need some more height.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on July 28, 2010, 10:47:21 PM
Quote
Lack of bigs in 2011 has guys perplexed. "it's not if he's good enough it's what can u tolerate and can u make him better?"

don't fall into the trap of tolerating players, staff.

for me, it's cunningham, jack or bust.  i don't want mergerson, i don't want holton, i don't want diaz.  i'm borderline on gipson.  we really need some more height.

I think we need more "fit"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 28, 2010, 11:40:34 PM
I don't really want Cunningham. It's Jack, Goff or bust.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on July 28, 2010, 11:41:18 PM
It's Jack, Goff or bust.

 :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on July 28, 2010, 11:51:13 PM
It's Jack, Goff or bust.

 :lol:

Just squirted milk through my nose
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 29, 2010, 12:05:42 AM
It's Jack, Goff or bust.

 :lol:

Just squirted milk through my nose

Just because Goff is juco doesn't mean he's suck, maybe sucks at life, but not at basketball.

Cunningham is probably a good option but reports say he's passive.

At the guard spot, I think we all reeallly want Seagears.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on July 29, 2010, 12:20:07 AM
It's Jack, Goff  or bust.

 :lol:

Just squirted milk through my nose

Just because Goff is juco doesn't mean he's suck, maybe sucks at life, but not at basketball.

Cunningham is probably a good option but reports say he's passive.

At the guard spot, I think we all reeallly want Seagears.

I don't think you were really shooting for the pun here.  Too bad.

But seriously, it's Seagears & Harrison for this year.  Save the bigs for next.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on July 29, 2010, 12:33:12 AM
Seagars and Harrison are the two I want.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 29, 2010, 07:07:29 AM
It's Jack, Goff or bust.

 :lol:

lol
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 29, 2010, 10:52:41 AM
Sounds like we're making a strong push for Diaz:

"Adrian Diaz has offers from Kansas State, North Florida, High Point and Virginia Tech. Florida State, Miami, Virginia, and Alabama are looking."

"Adrian Diaz, C, Gold Coast: Diaz has something many colleges covet: size. Pushing 6-11, he’s got athleticism and finishes plays at the rim. His body is one strength and conditioning coaches yearn to mold as he can be a strong presence down the road. Most is his offense comes at the rim and he’s a guy big schools have to seriously consider."

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/987382.html

"Big man Adrian Diaz from Florida will be making a push for the rankings because of his size and emerging offensive game. Word on the street is that Kansas State is the behind the scenes leader and will be quite tough to beat."

(Still no Rivals profile for AD yet though)

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107398


 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on July 29, 2010, 10:58:39 AM
Sounds like we're making a strong push for Diaz:

"Adrian Diaz has offers from Kansas State, North Florida, High Point and Virginia Tech. Florida State, Miami, Virginia, and Alabama are looking."

"Adrian Diaz, C, Gold Coast: Diaz has something many colleges covet: size. Pushing 6-11, he’s got athleticism and finishes plays at the rim. His body is one strength and conditioning coaches yearn to mold as he can be a strong presence down the road. Most is his offense comes at the rim and he’s a guy big schools have to seriously consider."

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/987382.html

"Big man Adrian Diaz from Florida will be making a push for the rankings because of his size and emerging offensive game. Word on the street is that Kansas State is the behind the scenes leader and will be quite tough to beat."

(Still no Rivals profile for AD yet though)

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107398


 


[redacted].  odds that the 11 class is diaz and rodriguez just shot up to 80%.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 29, 2010, 11:11:31 AM
Good observation and might very well be true.

No guard that can get his own and flat out score(ie Harrison, Seagears, some under the radar but still elite combo guard we haven't heard of yet) = disappointing  '11 class.

The possible addition of Peterson MIGHT reduce the effect of this elite recruiting miss but, hell, I really don't know...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 29, 2010, 11:44:02 AM
he sounds like a jhr clone.  does kstate really need two of those useless motherfuckers?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 29, 2010, 12:16:32 PM
It's Jack, Goff  or bust.

 :lol:

Just squirted milk through my nose

Just because Goff is juco doesn't mean he's suck, maybe sucks at life, but not at basketball.

Cunningham is probably a good option but reports say he's passive.

At the guard spot, I think we all reeallly want Seagears.

I don't think you were really shooting for the pun here.  Too bad.

But seriously, it's Seagears & Harrison for this year.  Save the bigs for next.

Let me make myself clear here bozo. I was referring to treysolid's post regarding which bigs he would take.

I'm with you guys, I would take Seagears and Harrison before anybody else.

But IF Judge would go pro, which would take a heck of a season, then we need a big i.e. Jack, Goff, Cunningham, and whoever else comes out of the woodwork. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on July 29, 2010, 12:48:04 PM
It's Jack, Goff  or bust.

 :lol:

Just squirted milk through my nose

Just because Goff is juco doesn't mean he's suck, maybe sucks at life, but not at basketball.

Cunningham is probably a good option but reports say he's passive.

At the guard spot, I think we all reeallly want Seagears.

I don't think you were really shooting for the pun here.  Too bad.

But seriously, it's Seagears & Harrison for this year.  Save the bigs for next.

Let me make myself clear here bozo. I was referring to treysolid's post regarding which bigs he would take.

I'm with you guys, I would take Seagears and Harrison before anybody else.

But IF Judge would go pro, which would take a heck of a season, then we need a big i.e. Jack, Goff, Cunningham, and whoever else comes out of the woodwork. 

Not laughing at Goff.  Don't know anything about him really.  We're all laughing at the play on words.  If you put "Jack, Goff" in that sequence on purpose, then you should take a well-deserved bow.  If not, then this is the UPOW*. :thumbsup:

**unintentional post of the week
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 29, 2010, 01:24:39 PM
It's Jack, Goff  or bust.

 :lol:

Just squirted milk through my nose

Just because Goff is juco doesn't mean he's suck, maybe sucks at life, but not at basketball.

Cunningham is probably a good option but reports say he's passive.

At the guard spot, I think we all reeallly want Seagears.

I don't think you were really shooting for the pun here.  Too bad.

But seriously, it's Seagears & Harrison for this year.  Save the bigs for next.

Let me make myself clear here bozo. I was referring to treysolid's post regarding which bigs he would take.

I'm with you guys, I would take Seagears and Harrison before anybody else.

But IF Judge would go pro, which would take a heck of a season, then we need a big i.e. Jack, Goff, Cunningham, and whoever else comes out of the woodwork. 

Not laughing at Goff.  Don't know anything about him really.  We're all laughing at the play on words.  If you put "Jack, Goff" in that sequence on purpose, then you should take a well-deserved bow.  If not, then this is the UPOW*. :thumbsup:

**unintentional post of the week

Get it now, glad I could give you a good chuckle.  :gocho:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 29, 2010, 07:46:52 PM
Quote
The matchup is Hoop Heaven Heat (NJ) vs. K Lightning (FL..basically Dr. Krop HS)....  For Lightning, Angel Rodriguez has 12 (2 3s). HHH down 30-23 at the half.

Quote
Miami and Kansas State watching KL.

Quote
Alabama (Grant) and Florida are here too.

northstar tweets.  i wish i could find out what happened for the krop players to pull out on ntf.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 29, 2010, 07:57:26 PM
Quote from: special, just-for-sys tweet
KL is basically Dr. Krop HS.  Rodriguez has been good.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 29, 2010, 07:58:47 PM
Quote from: special, just-for-sys tweet
KL is basically Dr. Krop HS.  Rodriguez has been good.
:surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 29, 2010, 10:59:06 PM
Quote from: special, just-for-sys tweet
KL is basically Dr. Krop HS.  Rodriguez has been good.
:surprised:


shazbot! Omari Lawrence and Martavious Irving
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 30, 2010, 03:00:34 PM
Quote
EvanDanielscout    This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabashcannonball on July 30, 2010, 04:04:26 PM
Quote
EvanDanielscout    This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot


Too many NYC kids but the ones we have are really nice kids, kinda surprised.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 30, 2010, 04:06:24 PM
Quote
EvanDanielscout    This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot


bossi tweeted something nice too.


nbe has a premium report from northstar re. jack's school list.  hopefully zagoria takes it public soon.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 30, 2010, 05:03:28 PM
Quote
EvanDanielscout    This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot


bossi tweeted something nice too.


nbe has a premium report from northstar re. jack's school list.  hopefully zagoria takes it public soon.

Recent NBE reports have updates on Rodriguez, Jack, and Stephon Blair. I'm seriously considering forking over that $2.08  per month.

Recruiting junkie here, I need help  :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on July 30, 2010, 06:32:52 PM
Quote
EvanDanielscout    This is my first time watching Kadeem Jack...am a big fan. Moves well, blocks shots and can step out and shoot


Too many NYC kids but the ones we have are really nice kids, kinda surprised.

Uhh, what?  How can you have too many NYC kids?  Kinda like saying a football team has too many Texans on their roster.  We can't only rely on DCA kids,that's why the Gauchos connection is so awesome.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 31, 2010, 11:21:35 AM
force's essay brings up a great point: martin was never a point.   :runaway:


http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107996
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on July 31, 2010, 11:46:28 PM
force's essay brings up a great point: martin was never a point.   :runaway:


http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1107996

Can't read.   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on August 01, 2010, 09:43:14 AM
Who is Adrian Diaz?

 :bball:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5148.0
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on August 01, 2010, 11:06:24 AM
Who is Adrian Diaz?

 :bball:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5148.0


Quote
Diaz's AAU coach says he could list 20 schools with interest in his most-recruited commodity, a player holding offers from Miami, Virginia Tech, Florida International, Central Florida and South Florida and strong interest from Syracuse, Alabama and a host of others.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on August 01, 2010, 11:18:33 AM
Who is Adrian Diaz?

 :bball:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5148.0


A JHR clone.  Skinny big man that can run.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2010, 11:20:14 AM
JHR can't run.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on August 01, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Who is Adrian Diaz?

 :bball:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5148.0


This is more of a pipe dream for the uninformed thread than a thread about actual K-State prospects.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: _33 on August 01, 2010, 02:00:14 PM
Quote from: Jerry Meyer about Diaz
An athletic big man who runs the floor well and is also a threat from behind the 3-point arc

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on August 01, 2010, 03:09:44 PM
JHR can't run.

Compared to other seven footers, yes, he's above average in terms of mobility.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 01, 2010, 03:25:53 PM
Quote from: Jerry Meyer about Diaz
An athletic big man who runs the floor well and is also a threat from behind the 3-point arc

 :surprised:


That's weird cause every other report about Diaz says he has no game outside of like 10 feet.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 01, 2010, 09:59:25 PM
You can't win em all:

"Kadeem Jack, PF, New York Gauchos – He’s headed to prep school, but I’m not completely sure why. The 6-foot-8, possibly 6-foot-9 big man, has the skills to play in college now. In Orlando, Jack showed an ability to run the floor with ease, while also blocking multiple shots and stepping out for mid-range jump shots. He’s already talented, but he’s a college weight room away from being even more effective."

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/987872.html

 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 01, 2010, 10:47:45 PM
Maybe he knows he's going to miss the ole qualification boat?  Maybe that is why Frank jumped on Diaz earlier too. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 01, 2010, 11:04:05 PM
Jack is fully qualified. Given the fact that we have 3 former HS teammates of Jack on our current roster and his skills and athleticism are more college ready than Diaz, I would have liked to see us ride out Jack's recruitment a while longer. I guess it's not officially over, but I really don't see taking 2 bigs in the fall.

"Usually when a student-athlete attends a prep school that has major D-I offers it is due to an academic issue. This is not the case for Jack, who is in good academic standing. He simply made a decision to attend prep school for basketball purposes.

"I'm just trying to hone my skills next year and I thought it would be best to do it at South Kent," said Jack. "That is pretty much my focus."

http://cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1081508
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 01, 2010, 11:09:11 PM
Jack is fully qualified. Given the fact that we have 3 former HS teammates of Jack on our current roster and his skills and athleticism are more college ready than Diaz, I would have liked to see us ride out Jack's recruitment a while longer. I guess it's not officially over, but I really don't see taking 2 bigs in the fall.

"Usually when a student-athlete attends a prep school that has major D-I offers it is due to an academic issue. This is not the case for Jack, who is in good academic standing. He simply made a decision to attend prep school for basketball purposes.

"I'm just trying to hone my skills next year and I thought it would be best to do it at South Kent," said Jack. "That is pretty much my focus."

http://cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1081508


Who sits out a year on purpose? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 01, 2010, 11:13:37 PM
Jack is fully qualified. Given the fact that we have 3 former HS teammates of Jack on our current roster and his skills and athleticism are more college ready than Diaz, I would have liked to see us ride out Jack's recruitment a while longer. I guess it's not officially over, but I really don't see taking 2 bigs in the fall.

"Usually when a student-athlete attends a prep school that has major D-I offers it is due to an academic issue. This is not the case for Jack, who is in good academic standing. He simply made a decision to attend prep school for basketball purposes.

"I'm just trying to hone my skills next year and I thought it would be best to do it at South Kent," said Jack. "That is pretty much my focus."

http://cincinnati.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1081508


Who sits out a year on purpose? 

Someone waiting on an EMAW elite offer, that's who  :bball:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on August 02, 2010, 11:48:50 AM
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4487595

Diaz commit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on August 02, 2010, 01:32:47 PM
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4487595

Diaz commit.

(http://www.2oceansvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/picture-37.png)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 02, 2010, 02:34:47 PM
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4487595

Diaz commit.

(http://www.2oceansvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/picture-37.png)

To be fair, he was the first person to actually post it in the appropriate thread...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on August 02, 2010, 02:48:01 PM
http://kansasstate.scout.com/a.z?s=173&p=8&c=1&nid=4487595

Diaz commit.

(http://www.2oceansvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/picture-37.png)

To be fair, he was the first person to actually post it in the appropriate thread...
Thanks that was what I was going for!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 02, 2010, 07:34:01 PM
Seagears back to not mentioing KSU, doesn't sound like our staff made it a priority to watch him during the live period:

"Some of the teams I saw at our games were Miami, UCLA, Duke, West Virginia, Virginia, NC State, Rutgers, DePaul, Cincinnati, and Clemson. There were even more teams than that, but those were some of the ones I noticed."

"Definitely West Virginia, Rutgers, DePaul, Cincinnati, and Arizona are up there," he said. "Those would be the top five right now. They've all offered me. I wouldn't say I have a favorite. I'm still neutral.

"It's still open, but I'm thinking of narrowing it down within this month to about seven or eight schools."

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/988251.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 02, 2010, 07:40:18 PM
Seagears back to not mentioing KSU, doesn't sound like our staff made it a priority to watch him during the live period:

"Some of the teams I saw at our games were Miami, UCLA, Duke, West Virginia, Virginia, NC State, Rutgers, DePaul, Cincinnati, and Clemson. There were even more teams than that, but those were some of the ones I noticed."

"Definitely West Virginia, Rutgers, DePaul, Cincinnati, and Arizona are up there," he said. "Those would be the top five right now. They've all offered me. I wouldn't say I have a favorite. I'm still neutral.

"It's still open, but I'm thinking of narrowing it down within this month to about seven or eight schools."

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/988251.html

of course not, they just filled the only opening they had with jhr2.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 02, 2010, 07:43:41 PM
Sprads, you are our only hope....eff
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 02, 2010, 07:53:54 PM
cool.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on August 02, 2010, 10:02:07 PM
Sprads, you are our only hope....shazbot!

Frank has said Sprads is as good as Jake.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 02, 2010, 10:09:47 PM
frank can sound like a real dipshit at times.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: cas4ksu on August 02, 2010, 10:14:58 PM
Sprads, you are our only hope....shazbot!

Frank has said Sprads is as good as Jake.

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 02, 2010, 10:35:34 PM
Steve Henson 2.0
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on August 02, 2010, 10:43:57 PM
Scout had Pullen listed as the #36 SG.  They have Spradling listed as the #36 PG. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 02, 2010, 10:45:04 PM
Scout had Pullen listed as the #36 SG.  They have Spradling listed as the #36 PG. 

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 12:44:33 AM
Frank has said Sprads is as good as Jake.

frank can sound like a real dipshit at times.

keep in mind our moron fan base is largely incapable of understanding compound sentences.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on August 03, 2010, 07:14:25 AM
Frank has said Sprads is as good as Jake.

frank can sound like a real dipshit at times.

keep in mind our moron fan base is largely incapable of understanding compound sentences.

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=4972.0
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dave Wooderson on August 03, 2010, 11:33:42 AM
Frank has said Sprads is as good as Jake.

frank can sound like a real dipshit at times.

keep in mind our moron fan base is largely incapable of understanding compound sentences.

You're all just a bunch of racists keeping the white bball player down.

 :opcat:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MeatSauce on August 03, 2010, 09:18:46 PM
Quote
RT @ebosshoops: #SCOOP- Thomas Gipson '11 has committed to Kansas State per my man Glenn Smith at DFW Hoops
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: tdaver on August 03, 2010, 09:21:40 PM
Quote
RT @ebosshoops: #SCOOP- Thomas Gipson '11 has committed to Kansas State per my man Glenn Smith at DFW Hoops


:surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 03, 2010, 09:39:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g&feature=related
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 03, 2010, 09:42:55 PM
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 03, 2010, 09:44:25 PM
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys

I like lefty post players.  

And while I'm not so sure about Diaz, this kid looks like he could develop into a player.  JMHO.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on August 03, 2010, 09:47:12 PM
I'm skeptical.  What am I supposed to do, wave the texas state flag?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 03, 2010, 09:48:52 PM
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys

If Huggins wanted a kid from DFW, I want him.  I know the whole "fit" argument feels very :powerespect: but any kid Huggz thinks fits his system automatically fits ours.  I like this get.  I'd love a bluechip, but this feels like a win.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 03, 2010, 09:49:12 PM
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys

because it's not the 2008 class!!!!    :excited:   :excited:    :runaway:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Acceleration Man on August 03, 2010, 09:50:00 PM
#136... 250 lbs. I'll take it.  :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 03, 2010, 09:52:37 PM
Harrison and Seagars!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on August 03, 2010, 09:53:01 PM
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys

I like lefty post players.  

And while I'm not so sure about Diaz, this kid looks like he could develop into a player.  JMHO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g&feature=related

Lefty is right....he makes a ton of plays on the left side of the basket in this clip...didn't see one play on the right.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: cas4ksu on August 03, 2010, 09:53:15 PM
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys

I like lefty post players.  

Seibrandt.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 03, 2010, 09:55:41 PM
Cool, 3 stars. A tall anorexic post. And a post who isn't even tall enough to be called a post. Somebody give me a reason I should like these guys

I like lefty post players. 

Seibrandt.

 :love:

(http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/81374372.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF8789215ABF3343C02EA548613DE2F19973B99ECF0AC6FA62386CD06ECD466C163A9281)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 03, 2010, 09:55:56 PM
Harrison and Seagars!!!!!!!!

 :bawl:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: threadkiller on August 03, 2010, 09:57:55 PM
Harrison and Seagars!!!!!!!!

I doubt we will only sign 2 in the 11 class.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 10:00:34 PM
i think i'm going to shoot myself.  jfc.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 03, 2010, 10:00:49 PM
steve dave?  comment?

(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/THOMASGIPSON6_17200A.JPG)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 03, 2010, 10:01:20 PM
Harrison and Seagars!!!!!!!!

I doubt we will only sign 2 in the 11 class.  

I doubt we sign either of those 2.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on August 03, 2010, 10:01:33 PM
ron anderson v. 2.0  :dunno: but with better offers
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 03, 2010, 10:03:38 PM
Seagars and Harrsion could be amazing. Elite Shooter with a playmaking pass first PG......jesus "right fit" my ass. Recruit TALENT
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on August 03, 2010, 10:05:53 PM
ron anderson v. 2.0  :dunno: but with better offers

don't think anderson could dunk.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on August 03, 2010, 10:06:08 PM
i think i'm going to shoot myself.  jfc.

Because this guy sucks, that he's a big, or because of him filling a spot?  Be specific.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on August 03, 2010, 10:06:13 PM
lriq here someone please answer the following question... if we offer these kids and they give verbal commitment can we back out on our end of the deal without the letter of intent being signed?  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 03, 2010, 10:10:06 PM
lriq here someone please answer the following question... if we offer these kids and they give verbal commitment can we back out on our end of the deal without the letter of intent being signed?  

yes.  but be prepared for negative recruiting.  then again, it's not like every big 120 coach isn't already telling kids to avoid kstate unless they want to be peppered with martin's spittle like a jackson pollock.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 03, 2010, 10:12:44 PM
lriq here someone please answer the following question... if we offer these kids and they give verbal commitment can we back out on our end of the deal without the letter of intent being signed?  

I almost asked this same question, but you obviously can.  Otherwise, if we offered ten prospects and they all committed on the same day, we would be forced to take them all.  Actually, I kind of like that strategy.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on August 03, 2010, 10:13:33 PM
i think i'm going to shoot myself.  jfc.

Serious question. Does sys really know what he's ever talking about?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 03, 2010, 10:14:15 PM
i think i'm going to shoot myself.  jfc.

Serious question. Does sys really know what he's ever talking about?

yes
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 03, 2010, 10:17:26 PM
For what it's worth, Gipson only gave a "soft verbal" according to Rivals.  Diaz gave us a "solid verbal". 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on August 03, 2010, 10:17:38 PM
So, more muscular but with less jumping ability Jamar Samuels?  

If the West Virginia and Baylor offers are legit, I can't complain too much.  It is a bit discouraging to see that we haven't been able to parlay our Elite 8 into upper echelon recruiting, however.  

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 03, 2010, 10:18:22 PM
Well, so much for my "only 1 big in the fall" theory!

And I guess we're intending to oversign in the fall here?  :dunno:

I like what I've read about Gipson, a physical low post banger who works his ass off but, man, him AND Diaz in the same class? I gotta wonder if Diaz is not a serious candidate to go to prep and reclassify.

I asked Bossi on GPC if he'd seen anything recently to change his eval of Gipson("Big 12 niche, MW ass kicker") but don't think he's going to bite.

I'm glad the kid has chosen to be a Wildcat but my gut reaction is we're taking this "we may suck at basketball but we're going to outwork your ass" schtick a little too seriously.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jrod_06 on August 03, 2010, 10:23:06 PM
he's got good timing  :dunno:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iES0khMvz54&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 03, 2010, 10:24:12 PM
For what it's worth, Gipson only gave a "soft verbal" according to Rivals.  Diaz gave us a "solid verbal". 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329

Where are you getting the "soft" verbal from? His profile simply reads "Committed", the story on GPC makes it sound like he's solid, and Bossi also confirmed it on GPC.

Not trying to stir crap up, I just don't see the "soft" part anywhere.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 10:24:48 PM
i think i'm going to shoot myself.  jfc.

Because this guy sucks, that he's a big, or because of him filling a spot?  Be specific.

i like gipson.  think he's better than his rating, actually.  the idea of not getting a guard in the '11 class makes me physically ill.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 03, 2010, 10:25:48 PM
Well, so much for my "only 1 big in the fall" theory!

And I guess we're intending to oversign in the fall here?  :dunno:

I like what I've read about Gipson, a physical low post banger who works his ass off but, man, him AND Diaz in the same class? I gotta wonder if Diaz is not a serious candidate to go to prep and reclassify.

I asked Bossi on GPC if he'd seen anything recently to change his eval of Gipson("Big 12 niche, MW ass kicker) but don't think he's going to bite.

I'm glad the kid has chosen to be a Wildcat but my gut reaction is we're taking this "we may suck at basketball but we're going to outwork your ass" schtick a little too seriously.

gipson isn't a bad get.  at all.  he's much more of a known quantity than diaz.  the thing about this which is upsetting/mystifying is that it appears that it closes the door on a top-notch guard prospect for this class, which means that after jake leaves, we have russell, irving, sprads (that's my meeeee-aaaaaan tho) and juevol to run point for us.  yikes.
  
obviously frank likes that combination.  so that makes one of us.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 03, 2010, 10:27:03 PM
I firmly belive Russell will be the PG and surprise people.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on August 03, 2010, 10:28:03 PM
would bet diaz goes prep.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 03, 2010, 10:28:13 PM
i think i'm going to shoot myself.  jfc.

Because this guy sucks, that he's a big, or because of him filling a spot?  Be specific.

                                                                                      This ^^
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FHSU92 on August 03, 2010, 10:30:39 PM
I firmly belive Russell will be the PG and surprise people.

In a good or bad way?  I think he is serviceable, kinda like Sky, but taller with better shot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on August 03, 2010, 10:30:48 PM
I firmly belive Russell will be the PG and surprise people.

The last guy around here who's sports opinions consisted of firmly believing in stuff kind of flaked out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 03, 2010, 10:31:03 PM
For what it's worth, Gipson only gave a "soft verbal" according to Rivals.  Diaz gave us a "solid verbal". 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329

Where are you getting the "soft" verbal from? His profile simply reads "Committed", the story on GPC makes it sound like he's solid, and Bossi also confirmed it on GPC.

Not trying to stir crap up, I just don't see the "soft" part anywhere.

Follow the link.  Upper right corner by the powercat logo.  "Commitment Status:"


Probably meaningless.  Just thought I'd throw that out there
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 03, 2010, 10:31:30 PM
I firmly belive Russell will be the PG and surprise people.

We still need a guard for the class.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 03, 2010, 10:33:38 PM

gipson will fit right in.  martin probably made this a selling point.

Quote
7. If you could tell people one thing about you that you wish they knew, what would it be?

When I was a kid, we lived on 19 acres, took care of 100 acres of land that had 75 cattle on it. I would ride on the tractor with my mom…You wouldn’t believe it!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 03, 2010, 10:33:47 PM
For what it's worth, Gipson only gave a "soft verbal" according to Rivals.  Diaz gave us a "solid verbal". 

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Thomas-Gipson-93329

Where are you getting the "soft" verbal from? His profile simply reads "Committed", the story on GPC makes it sound like he's solid, and Bossi also confirmed it on GPC.

Not trying to stir crap up, I just don't see the "soft" part anywhere.

Follow the link.  Upper right corner by the powercat logo.  "Commitment Status:"


Probably meaningless.  Just thought I'd throw that out there

Good observation, Thanks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 03, 2010, 10:34:34 PM
i think i'm going to shoot myself.  jfc.

Because this guy sucks, that he's a big, or because of him filling a spot?  Be specific.

i like gipson.  think he's better than his rating, actually.  the idea of not getting a guard in the '11 class makes me physically ill.

I like him too.  And I wouldn't be anti-Diaz except for the fact that we have a legitimate shot at Harrison and/or Seagears.  Could've been a special class, small as it is.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 03, 2010, 10:40:53 PM
steve dave?  comment?

(http://vmedia.rivals.com/IMAGES/PROSPECT/PHOTO/THOMASGIPSON6_17200A.JPG)

Not meaning to step on sd's toes here, but he obviously ups our GQ factor, making up for Omari and Diaz.   :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 03, 2010, 10:42:06 PM
His most recent highlights, from the KC Classic

http://www.prepforce.com/videos/183/thomas-gipson-highlights-from-the-kc-classic.html (http://www.prepforce.com/videos/183/thomas-gipson-highlights-from-the-kc-classic.html)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on August 03, 2010, 10:43:24 PM
So, again, what in f*ck are we paying Dalonte 420k for?  This has seriously getting comical.


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 03, 2010, 10:43:52 PM

gipson isn't a bad get.  

I agree. It's just the combination of him and Diaz and as you pointed out, the apparent lack of urgency to get a guard in this class that is concerning.

No scoring guard in this class, I don't care if it was a PG, combo, or strictly SG type, just somebody who can consistently put the ball in the basket from the backcourt is by all appearances, a glaring oversight.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on August 03, 2010, 10:46:22 PM
I haven't been able to find any evidence of the existence of a mid range jump shot from Gipson at all.  Scott should be able to make him one of the most physical players in the league though.  Any reports on wing span or jumping ability?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 03, 2010, 10:47:33 PM
i think i'm going to shoot myself.  jfc.

Because this guy sucks, that he's a big, or because of him filling a spot?  Be specific.

i like gipson.  think he's better than his rating, actually.  the idea of not getting a guard in the '11 class makes me physically ill.

I like him too.  And I wouldn't be anti-Diaz except for the fact that we have a legitimate shot at Harrison and/or Seagears.  Could've been a special class, small as it is.

We had a legit shot at coming in second or third on those guys.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 03, 2010, 10:48:43 PM
Is it to out of line to compare this guy to Dejuan Blair.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 03, 2010, 10:49:33 PM
I haven't been able to find any evidence of the existence of a mid range jump shot from Gipson at all.  Scott should be able to make him one of the most physical players in the league though.  Any reports on wing span or jumping ability?

7'2" wingspan.  check out the KC Classic video - he makes a nice baseline jumper at the end.  kinda weird form, tho.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 10:52:57 PM
I haven't been able to find any evidence of the existence of a mid range jump shot from Gipson at all.  Scott should be able to make him one of the most physical players in the league though.  Any reports on wing span or jumping ability?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A

nice long highlight vid.  doesn't look like terribly long arms to me, though the espn blurb on him says he has them.  seems to jump fine, though the scouting reports say he isn't explosive.  does seem like a slow jumper, no 2nd jump.

doesn't include much but dunking despite the length, but he looks fine the few times he isn't at the rim.

good feet.  very strong.  best thing looks like his hands.  not sure he fumbled a single pass in the entire vid.  i like him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on August 03, 2010, 10:54:42 PM
wingspan must include v broad shoulders  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 03, 2010, 11:00:15 PM
most impressive thing:  sealing off his defender.  he's, like, charles barkley good at it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MeatSauce on August 03, 2010, 11:04:32 PM
Is it to out of line to compare this guy to Dejuan Blair.
:peek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on August 03, 2010, 11:06:11 PM
build reminds me some of marshall moses.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on August 03, 2010, 11:15:07 PM
7 guards on the roster are FR or SO.  But by all means go ahead and keep telling youselves that Frank isn't happy with the guards he's got - especially tave.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 03, 2010, 11:22:19 PM
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 11:24:49 PM
normal 'ship distribution is 8 backcourt, 5 frontcourt.  martin may be happy with his guards (must be?), as fans we have no reason to agree with him.  other than mcgruder, they either sucked last year, or have never played.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 03, 2010, 11:26:44 PM
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?

Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is.  And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman.  Neither was Denis or Pullen.  Gruds is going to be a stud.  We'll see how the point shakes out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 03, 2010, 11:29:09 PM
normal 'ship distribution is 8 backcourt, 5 frontcourt.  martin may be happy with his guards (must be?), as fans we have no reason to agree with him.  other than mcgruder, they either sucked last year, or have never played.

Why 8 ships for 2 spots and 5 ships for 3 spots?  And I would tend to agree with Martin RE: the guys we haven't seen much of/out of him simply based on how much he has seen them practice.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 11:33:03 PM
Why 8 ships for 2 spots and 5 ships for 3 spots?

sf=wing=backcourt.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 11:34:11 PM
I asked Bossi on GPC if he'd seen anything recently to change his eval of Gipson("Big 12 niche, MW ass kicker") but don't think he's going to bite.

if you ask him on the nat'l board, i'm almost sure he'll respond.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 03, 2010, 11:36:51 PM
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?

Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is.  And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman.  Neither was Denis or Pullen.  Gruds is going to be a stud.  We'll see how the point shakes out.

"Lawrence expects the conversation to take place in the next couple days, but warned that nothing, as it relates to his imminent transfer, will be certain until the conclusion of that call. Even still, the sophomore says he already has an idea of what his role on the team will be should he, as expected, find himself in a purple jersey.

"Since I'm a slasher, they want me to be versatile and get to the basket," Lawrence said. "I'll just be a playing that off guard."

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1099063

Southwell is not a guard at the DI level, he's an SF with above average handling and passing skills for that position. Just because he played PG in HS doesn't mean that translates to DI ball.

Pullen and Clemente both came out of HS with reputations as big-time scorers and we're projected to do that at the next level and they both absolutely lived up to that billing, guys that can score off the bounce or off the catch. Which one of these guys is projected as being a scoring combo guard?

I certainly do expect McGruder to develop into a scorer but he's more of a wing and it will not be his role to create off the dribble.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 03, 2010, 11:38:48 PM
Why 8 ships for 2 spots and 5 ships for 3 spots?

sf=wing=backcourt.

I always thought that it was 1,2= back court and 3,4,5= front court.   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on August 03, 2010, 11:39:22 PM
sf=wing=backcourt.

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j3/tdj7349/noname.gif)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 03, 2010, 11:42:58 PM
Hi, everyone.  I'd like to welcome everyone to the Elite Eight won't automatically get us Blue Chips train.  Ironically, I'm pretty happy with Gipson assuming we send Diaz to Cloud or something.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 03, 2010, 11:43:27 PM
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?

Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is.  And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman.  Neither was Denis or Pullen.  Gruds is going to be a stud.  We'll see how the point shakes out.

"Lawrence expects the conversation to take place in the next couple days, but warned that nothing, as it relates to his imminent transfer, will be certain until the conclusion of that call. Even still, the sophomore says he already has an idea of what his role on the team will be should he, as expected, find himself in a purple jersey.

"Since I'm a slasher, they want me to be versatile and get to the basket," Lawrence said. "I'll just be a playing that off guard."

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1099063

Southwell is not a guard at the DI level, he's an SF with above average handling and passing skills for that position. Just because he played PG in HS doesn't mean that translates to DI ball.

Pullen and Clemente both came out of HS with reputations as big-time scorers and we're projected to do that at the next level and they both absolutely lived up to that billing, guys that can score off the bounce or off the catch. Which one of these guys is projected as being a scoring combo guard?

I certainly do expect McGruder to develop into a scorer but he's more of a wing and it will not be his role to create off the dribble.


Not a good idea to argue with someone who does his research.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 11:44:05 PM
I always thought that it was 1,2= back court and 3,4,5= front court.   :dunno:

40 years ago that was probably accurate.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 11:45:27 PM
Hi, everyone.  I'd like to welcome everyone to the Elite Eight won't automatically get us Blue Chips train.

stfu, martin never let us find out.



Ironically, I'm pretty happy with Gipson assuming we send Diaz to Cloud or something.

stfu, everyone would be happy with that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on August 03, 2010, 11:46:45 PM
I think everyone here got spoiled by Clemente and Pullen. We need low-post scorers to compete with KU. That's absolutely what killed us in the tournament. We could not feed the ball down low to a big and get an easy bucket. I just don't see why we have to have a guard that can go off for 30. I think Myles is going to be a decent PG. He won't go off for 30, but will take care of the ball and be serviceable. Apparently not many people on this board are ok with a serviceable pg.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: KSUBrian on August 03, 2010, 11:47:20 PM
His most recent highlights, from the KC Classic

http://www.prepforce.com/videos/183/thomas-gipson-highlights-from-the-kc-classic.html (http://www.prepforce.com/videos/183/thomas-gipson-highlights-from-the-kc-classic.html)


TG looks like Andre The Giant on the video. A couple of years with SG  :love: :excited:  Reminds me a little of Dujuan Blair.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 03, 2010, 11:47:35 PM
Hi, everyone.  I'd like to welcome everyone to the Elite Eight won't automatically get us Blue Chips train.

stfu, martin never let us find out.

I'm pretty sure he let you find out when he offered Diaz.  (assuming he's not sending him to cloud)

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 03, 2010, 11:48:05 PM
Holding off on the Blair comparisons till I know condition of his ACL's.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 03, 2010, 11:49:36 PM
I'm pretty sure he let you find out when he offered Diaz.  (assuming he's not sending him to cloud)

you're giving martin too much credit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 03, 2010, 11:54:52 PM
I think everyone here got spoiled by Clemente and Pullen. We need low-post scorers to compete with KU. That's absolutely what killed us in the tournament. We could not feed the ball down low to a big and get an easy bucket. I just don't see why we have to have a guard that can go off for 30. I think Myles is going to be a decent PG. He won't go off for 30, but will take care of the ball and be serviceable. Apparently not many people on this board are ok with a serviceable pg.

A "serviceable" PG would be fine alongside a stud SG.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 03, 2010, 11:55:08 PM
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?

Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is.  And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman.  Neither was Denis or Pullen.  Gruds is going to be a stud.  We'll see how the point shakes out.

"Lawrence expects the conversation to take place in the next couple days, but warned that nothing, as it relates to his imminent transfer, will be certain until the conclusion of that call. Even still, the sophomore says he already has an idea of what his role on the team will be should he, as expected, find himself in a purple jersey.

"Since I'm a slasher, they want me to be versatile and get to the basket," Lawrence said. "I'll just be a playing that off guard."

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1099063

Southwell is not a guard at the DI level, he's an SF with above average handling and passing skills for that position. Just because he played PG in HS doesn't mean that translates to DI ball.

Pullen and Clemente both came out of HS with reputations as big-time scorers and we're projected to do that at the next level and they both absolutely lived up to that billing, guys that can score off the bounce or off the catch. Which one of these guys is projected as being a scoring combo guard?

I certainly do expect McGruder to develop into a scorer but he's more of a wing and it will not be his role to create off the dribble.


Not a good idea to argue with someone who does his research.

1   Shane Southwell   Guard   6-6   220   FR/HS   Bronx, N.Y. (Rice)
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ksu-m-baskbl-mtt.html

 :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on August 04, 2010, 12:01:36 AM
I think everyone here got spoiled by Clemente and Pullen. We need low-post scorers to compete with KU. That's absolutely what killed us in the tournament. We could not feed the ball down low to a big and get an easy bucket. I just don't see why we have to have a guard that can go off for 30. I think Myles is going to be a decent PG. He won't go off for 30, but will take care of the ball and be serviceable. Apparently not many people on this board are ok with a serviceable pg.

A "serviceable" PG would be fine alongside a stud SG.

yeah i think we have that with mcgruder. as long as spradling comes along as a great shooter than we will be fine.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on August 04, 2010, 12:04:01 AM
So absolutely no more chance that we get Cunningham, correct?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 04, 2010, 12:05:39 AM
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?

Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is.  And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman.  Neither was Denis or Pullen.  Gruds is going to be a stud.  We'll see how the point shakes out.

"Lawrence expects the conversation to take place in the next couple days, but warned that nothing, as it relates to his imminent transfer, will be certain until the conclusion of that call. Even still, the sophomore says he already has an idea of what his role on the team will be should he, as expected, find himself in a purple jersey.

"Since I'm a slasher, they want me to be versatile and get to the basket," Lawrence said. "I'll just be a playing that off guard."

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1099063

Southwell is not a guard at the DI level, he's an SF with above average handling and passing skills for that position. Just because he played PG in HS doesn't mean that translates to DI ball.

Pullen and Clemente both came out of HS with reputations as big-time scorers and we're projected to do that at the next level and they both absolutely lived up to that billing, guys that can score off the bounce or off the catch. Which one of these guys is projected as being a scoring combo guard?

I certainly do expect McGruder to develop into a scorer but he's more of a wing and it will not be his role to create off the dribble.


Not a good idea to argue with someone who does his research.

1   Shane Southwell   Guard   6-6   220   FR/HS   Bronx, N.Y. (Rice)
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ksu-m-baskbl-mtt.html

 :dunno:

Everybody else in the free world sees the kid as an SF, if he's regularly bringing the ball up the court and setting up the offense 3 years from now, I'll eat my words.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Shane-Southwell-68331

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3226334

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=44165&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d44165
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: bozocat on August 04, 2010, 12:15:14 AM
So absolutely no more chance that we get Cunningham, correct?

Probably not, but with the current trend, you never know.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 04, 2010, 12:18:38 AM
Russell, McGruder, Irving, Myles, Lawrence, Spradling - Only counting 6 including the wings(Southwell not a guard), but of that group, who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?

Lawrence isn't a guard, Southwell is.  And none of them were capable of going for 30 as freshman.  Neither was Denis or Pullen.  Gruds is going to be a stud.  We'll see how the point shakes out.

"Lawrence expects the conversation to take place in the next couple days, but warned that nothing, as it relates to his imminent transfer, will be certain until the conclusion of that call. Even still, the sophomore says he already has an idea of what his role on the team will be should he, as expected, find himself in a purple jersey.

"Since I'm a slasher, they want me to be versatile and get to the basket," Lawrence said. "I'll just be a playing that off guard."

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1099063

Southwell is not a guard at the DI level, he's an SF with above average handling and passing skills for that position. Just because he played PG in HS doesn't mean that translates to DI ball.

Pullen and Clemente both came out of HS with reputations as big-time scorers and we're projected to do that at the next level and they both absolutely lived up to that billing, guys that can score off the bounce or off the catch. Which one of these guys is projected as being a scoring combo guard?

I certainly do expect McGruder to develop into a scorer but he's more of a wing and it will not be his role to create off the dribble.


Not a good idea to argue with someone who does his research.

1   Shane Southwell   Guard   6-6   220   FR/HS   Bronx, N.Y. (Rice)
http://www.kstatesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ksu-m-baskbl-mtt.html

 :dunno:

Everybody else in the free world sees the kid as an SF, if he's regularly bringing the ball up the court and setting up the offense 3 years from now, I'll eat my words.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-Shane-Southwell-68331

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=3226334

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=44165&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d44165

Never claimed he was a 1, just that he was a guard.  As far as the free world thing goes-  I would assume someone from our staff submitted this info to the web designer.  If they call him a guard, I will too.  Not that it really matters, pretty much just semantics anyway. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 04, 2010, 12:23:13 AM
I always thought that it was 1,2= back court and 3,4,5= front court.   :dunno:

40 years ago that was probably accurate.

http://dimemag.com/2010/02/the-nbas-top-10-frontcourts/
 :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on August 04, 2010, 12:25:08 AM
(Southwell not a guard)

This unprompted parenthetical means that he's pretty much a guard.

who's the guy that can create off the dribble? Which guy is capable of going off for 30 on any given night, ala Clemente and Pullen?

Why would anyone be confident that this is what we were looking for?  Or that we hadn't already looked and failed miserably? 

martin may be happy with his guards (must be?), as fans we have no reason to agree with him.

There is, however, good reason not to be surprised, which is what this thread's regulars struggle with.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 12:29:32 AM
I always thought that it was 1,2= back court and 3,4,5= front court.   :dunno:

40 years ago that was probably accurate.

http://dimemag.com/2010/02/the-nbas-top-10-frontcourts/
 :dunno:

acknowledged.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 12:55:47 AM
ballplayers on diaz.

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Diaz, two negatives:
1. needs bulk, strength (just get to a hardened 225#)
2. young for his Class (Red-Shirt)

LIKED him in Jan. 2008, as a Soph!
Long, Athletic, Offensive, Energy, Shot range
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 04, 2010, 01:04:20 AM
ballplayers on diaz.

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Diaz, two negatives:
1. needs bulk, strength (just get to a hardened 225#)
2. young for his Class (Red-Shirt)

LIKED him in Jan. 2008, as a Soph!
Long, Athletic, Offensive, Energy, Shot range

Does the kid have shooting range, or not?  Seems like half of the stuff I have read about him says he doesn't have much and half says he does.  Maybe half the stuff I have read is outdated?   :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 01:21:48 AM
Does the kid have shooting range, or not?  Seems like half of the stuff I have read about him says he doesn't have much and half says he does.  Maybe half the stuff I have read is outdated?   :crossfingers:

probably just diff. scouts watching him in diff games/tourneys.


with bp, him referencing his impressions of diaz as a soph suggests that he hasn't seen him this summer.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 04, 2010, 02:33:57 AM
Does the kid have shooting range, or not?  Seems like half of the stuff I have read about him says he doesn't have much and half says he does.  Maybe half the stuff I have read is outdated?   :crossfingers:

probably just diff. scouts watching him in diff games/tourneys.


with bp, him referencing his impressions of diaz as a soph suggests that he hasn't seen him this summer.



Slightly OT-  You think Frank will/would redshirt a player like this, or just plug him in sparingly?  In my non-expert view, it seems like Frank isn't all that worried about redshirts.  You either earn playing time or you don't.  If you aren't going to play, it would be best for everyone involved if you found somewhere else to play next year.  Granted, we're working with a very limited sample size...I see pros and cons to this, a purely hypothetical model.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on August 04, 2010, 07:54:37 AM
Time for a 5 star elite recruit, Mr. guy on our staff that is being paid close to half a million dollars a year to be a recruiter.

I'm not giving up on our Elite 8 run paying dividends yet!!!!!


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 08:04:56 AM
Let's be serious here fellas.  We're signing a G (hopefully PG).  Yeah, it's prolly going to be sucky A-Rod-Tri but we're signing one.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dave Wooderson on August 04, 2010, 08:25:32 AM
Let's be serious here fellas.  We're signing a G (hopefully PG).  Yeah, it's prolly going to be sucky A-Rod-Tri but we're signing one.

Why not Quinn Cook?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 08:25:49 AM
Let's be serious here fellas.  We're signing a G (hopefully PG).  Yeah, it's prolly going to be sucky A-Rod-Tri but we're signing one.

Why not Quinn Cook?

Because he hates us.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 04, 2010, 08:37:48 AM
From big time Kansas State message board poster/supporter/scout:

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Your way off base. My son's AAU played DC Assault in Cali last week (we beat them in the semi's) Dalonte was there and is still considered the man.

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You should have seen the respect Coach Hill was getting. All the kids were aware he was in the gym watching games. Folks our program has really arrived. We need to let them do their thing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 08:39:12 AM
Didn't J-Mart watch Gipson at the Houston AAU event? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on August 04, 2010, 08:55:05 AM
From big time Kansas State message board poster/supporter/scout:

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Your way off base. My son's AAU played DC Assault in Cali last week (we beat them in the semi's) Dalonte was there and is still considered the man.

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You should have seen the respect Coach Hill was getting. All the kids were aware he was in the gym watching games. Folks our program has really arrived. We need to let them do their thing.


PoetWarrior, I just figured out that your name is ChiTwnCat over on GP.


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ChiTwnCat

GoPowercat Ring of Fame member
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You guys do realize that Dalonte has been the point man for all of the New York City kids don't you??? Kelly, Southwell, Peterson, Hentriquez, Lawrence fist made contact with KSU through Hill. Hill is the one that initially set up the connection with the NY Gauchos and their coaches.

What I have seen with Hill is that he is very good in going out and starting the cold calls and opening new doors for KSU however rarely is he the "closer". Frank is our closer and I think Underwood and Figurs have some closing skills too.

The ultimate key to success is once the coaches get the door busted wide open and the pipeline built then the assistant doesn't have to be the key lead person for every kid he is targeting. The current players from that area actually do more to sell the program than any of the coaches can. Hill opened the doors in NY, Frank is the closer but in between the two the current players like Kelly and Henriquez did all of the work telling the recruit how much they like it in the Little Apple as opposed to the Big Apple.


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Come on ChiTwn, you just blew up a whiner thread. Good lord it's amazing what kind of crap gets posted on this board at times.



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Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 04, 2010, 10:12:22 AM
PoetWarrior, I just figured out that your name is ChiTwnCat over on GP.

I am.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doubledribble on August 04, 2010, 10:13:17 AM
First of all, Gipson is #136 and most likely will rise in those rankings.  Hard to believe we complain after we beat out Huggs and Final Four West Virginia for his services.  Maybe all of you have played ball is some way shape or form or have been around the aau circuit.  To be able to take all of the aau kids and kids in the nation for that matter and be in the top 150, you have to be a very special player.  
As for Dalonte, the man has BIG value to our program.  You guys want the 5 stars every year and its not going to happen.  Here is a great example of comparisons.  Go look at Michigan State's recruits every year.  Izzo isn't bringing in 5 start and 4 stars every year.  He is however bringing in players that fit his brand of basketball.  Turned out pretty good for them over the past decade didn't it.  We are starting to sound like a bunch of spoiled brats east of here.  Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Purdue and Syracuse.  Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Huggs.  Sound the alarm the program is going down hill!  GMAB :jerk:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 10:16:13 AM
First of all, Gipson is #136 and most likely will rise in those rankings.  Hard to believe we complain after we beat out Huggs and Final Four West Virginia for his services.  Maybe all of you have played ball is some way shape or form or have been around the aau circuit.  To be able to take all of the aau kids and kids in the nation for that matter and be in the top 150, you have to be a very special player.  
As for Dalonte, the man has BIG value to our program.  You guys want the 5 stars every year and its not going to happen.  Here is a great example of comparisons.  Go look at Michigan State's recruits every year.  Izzo isn't bringing in 5 start and 4 stars every year.  He is however bringing in players that fit his brand of basketball.  Turned out pretty good for them over the past decade didn't it.  We are starting to sound like a bunch of spoiled brats east of here.  Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Purdue and Syracuse.  Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Huggs.  Sound the alarm the program is going down hill!  GMAB :jerk:

You tell'em doubledribble.  Buncha squawks around here.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on August 04, 2010, 10:17:02 AM
First of all, Gipson is #136 and most likely will rise in those rankings.  Hard to believe we complain after we beat out Huggs and Final Four West Virginia for his services.  Maybe all of you have played ball is some way shape or form or have been around the aau circuit.  To be able to take all of the aau kids and kids in the nation for that matter and be in the top 150, you have to be a very special player.  
As for Dalonte, the man has BIG value to our program.  You guys want the 5 stars every year and its not going to happen.  Here is a great example of comparisons.  Go look at Michigan State's recruits every year.  Izzo isn't bringing in 5 start and 4 stars every year.  He is however bringing in players that fit his brand of basketball.  Turned out pretty good for them over the past decade didn't it.  We are starting to sound like a bunch of spoiled brats east of here.  Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Purdue and Syracuse.  Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Huggs.  Sound the alarm the program is going down hill!  GMAB :jerk:

 :cheers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on August 04, 2010, 10:24:28 AM
WVU has plenty of meh players.  We didn't just steal a Kentucky recruit here.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 04, 2010, 10:27:57 AM
(http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/pt/slideshows/2009/03/ldr_998_12/embed/images/090402_NS_27AllAreaGipson_emb.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doubledribble on August 04, 2010, 10:30:05 AM
Was on basketballelite.com

7 Questions With…Thomas Gipson
Posted by admin
Jun
18
By Marcus Shockley
Thomas Gipson is a beast.

Gipson (PF, 6’7?, 2011), is a power player with a penchant for hammering away in the post, one of those big men that attack the basket with a ferocity that can’t be taught, he works hard, runs the floor and has a massive wingspan. Definitely a player to watch from the state of Texas, Thomas obviously relishes the role of being willing to face the hard knocks needed to play inside.

Thomas joins us for our inaugural installment of ’7 Questions’, where we can find out more about Mr. Gipson and his alter ego, ‘Beast’.



1. The first question (it always is): Which schools are you considering, what offers have you received or what colleges have been communicating with you?

School Interest Level  
Baylor Medium
California Medium Offered
Florida International Medium Offered
Georgia State Medium Offered
Iowa Medium Offered
Kansas State Medium Offered
Marquette Medium  
Oklahoma State Medium Offered
Southern Methodist Medium Offered
Texas A&M Medium  
Tulane Medium Offered
West Virginia Medium Offered

2. Do you have a timetable for your college decision?

Thinking Spring 2011 right now. That way I can take time and take some official visits to schools in the fall (before basketball season starts). But you never know, if the right offer comes along…could sign today….(laughing)

3. What are the parts of your game that you feel are the strongest?

My post moves and rebounding. I’m really strong for my age. I weigh between 230-245lbs all the time. I been playing post a while and it is second nature to me. Me being strong helps. My wing span is over 7’ too. I usually make most of my free-throws too. People also don’t think that I can only play inside. I actually have a good jump shot.

4. What are the parts of your game you are currently working on?

I am working on my ball handling and it has come along really well. I played in a game on this past weekend and was able to play power forward because my AAU coach (Stacy) let’s me do it. Most coaches have always put me at post because I was the tallest kid on the team. Now going to college, I know I have to put in the work to show them that I can do that too.

5. Are any coaches giving you feedback on your game, and if so, what are they telling you they want to see?

My trainer (Coach Tim Mason) always tell me to let them see my versatility. So what they are wanting to see is my ability to play the power forward position and ball handle, face the basket, and shoot jumpers. So I let them see that I can do all those things. I am 6’7” and some coaches underestimate me. I have a 7’2 wingspan, so I let them see what I can do with that too.

6. Can you name a current or past player or a coach (at any level) that you may admire and why you admire them?

Amare Stoudemire – he’s a great player. Think he’s a beast like me. That’s what they call me. He’s a [player who] runs the floor, rebounds, he can shoot. He’s kinda quiet from what I can tell. He doesn’t show a whole lot of emotion but he can play. He does his thing no matter what. Just like me.

7. If you could tell people one thing about you that you wish they knew, what would it be?

a. When I was a kid, we lived on 19 acres, took care of 100 acres of land that had 75 cattle on it. I would ride on the tractor with my mom…You wouldn’t believe it!

b. I was on Sports Stars of Tomorrow with Pat Summerall.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 04, 2010, 10:30:59 AM
Go look at Michigan State's recruits every year.  Izzo isn't bringing in 5 start and 4 stars every year.  He is however bringing in players that fit his brand of basketball.  Turned out pretty good for them over the past decade didn't it.  We are starting to sound like a bunch of spoiled brats east of here.  Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Purdue and Syracuse.  Oh no, we just had a kid pick us over Huggs.  Sound the alarm the program is going down hill!  GMAB :jerk:

This is a joke right? Michigan St has has signed no less than 2 players of at least a 4* ranking in each of their past 5 classes.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/michiganstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2010

http://rivals.yahoo.com/michiganstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2009

http://rivals.yahoo.com/michiganstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2008

http://rivals.yahoo.com/michiganstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2007

http://rivals.yahoo.com/michiganstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2006
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 04, 2010, 10:33:18 AM
I am ready to sit back and  :popcorn: and see how this pans out.  

But for sure . . . now that Frank is pulling down $1.5, and he's going to get his basketball practice facility, and Hill is pulling in nearly $500K a year (with bonus) . . . I am going to expect a pile of Tiffany cuff links.

After all Frank is supposedly bringing in "his guys" and the guys that "fit" his system . . . and according to the Ministers of Purple Drank Propaganda Dalonte Hill is opening up all kinds of doors.    So now is the exact time to place a copious quantity of expectations on the basketball program.

But no doubt the Ministers of Purple Drank Propaganda will be the first to come and bitch and moan at those that bitch and moan if things don't pan out.   Well fellas, you're going all in on Frank and this staff and their recruiting.   You're propagating a message that these are the exact guys that Frank wants, and we should all be happy they choose K-State . . . don't start crying like little girls when we bitch if things don't work out.   If they do, I'll give you your due.

Frank is getting paid like a big boy, his staff is getting big boy salaries, he's going to get a spanking new basketball practice facility in the next 2 years . . . the expectations should be strident and expansive.



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doubledribble on August 04, 2010, 10:37:08 AM
Go back and look at Frank's classes.  They are going to start to look identical.  
Beasley 5 Star
Walker  5 Star
Judge 5 Star
McGruder 4 star
Kelly 5 Star
Nino 4 Star

Gosh, your right.  We should all start running for the hills.  Those guys suck.  My point is we can make some comparisons to the program Michigan State built.  They recruit for system.

That's in what 3 years?  4 5 star players.
Gipson will be closing in on 4 by next year and Diaz will be close to breaking 150.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 04, 2010, 10:42:21 AM
I like Gipson as a fit and I think he will be a very good player.  The commitment of Diaz is what now looks shitty.  I hope we keep pressing the guards we were in on and jettison Diaz or run Myles out at the end of the year if we get someone worth taking. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 04, 2010, 10:45:07 AM
Go back and look at Frank's classes.  They are going to start to look identical.  
Beasley 5 Star
Walker  5 Star
Judge 5 Star
McGruder 4 star
Kelly 5 Star
Nino 4 Star

Gosh, your right.  We should all start running for the hills.  Those guys suck.  My point is we can make some comparisons to the program Michigan State built.  They recruit for system.

That's in what 3 years?  4 5 star players.
Gipson will be closing in on 4 by next year and Diaz will be close to breaking 150.

The difference between us and Michigan St is they are recruiting at a high level EVERY YEAR. Unfortunately our 07 class is looking like an anomaly and the 09 class can largely be attributed to Dalonte reaping his DC ties which appear to be dwindling away.

And WHERE are you getting that Gipson will closing in on 4*?. Both Bossi and Meyer refer to him as a hard working grinder without a ton of upside.

Not running for the hills but no way are we recruiting at the same level Michigan St is recruiting at.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doubledribble on August 04, 2010, 10:49:56 AM
I just get sick of all the negativity.  We just went to the Elite 8 and are a top 5 pre-season team.  We have a coach who turned down 2.5 at Oregon and a a great staff.  Instead of enjoying it we berate them.  Enjoy the freaking ride.  We sound like the mid-courters at Lawrence.  You know the tools that call into the Monday night shows suggesting a change to the coach.  Always ridiculous. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on August 04, 2010, 10:53:05 AM
And honestly there is no reason for us to be recruiting at the same level Michigan State is. 1) They have Detroit to recruit 2) Been to a few more F4s than we have in the past decade
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 10:59:43 AM
I just get sick of all the negativity.  We just went to the Elite 8 and are a top 5 pre-season team.  We have a coach who turned down 2.5 at Oregon and a a great staff.  Instead of enjoying it we berate them.  Enjoy the freaking ride.  We sound like the mid-courters at Lawrence.  You know the tools that call into the Monday night shows suggesting a change to the coach.  Always ridiculous. 

Your reasons to be blindly happy are the reasons most of us aren't blindly happy with the recruiting fwiw. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on August 04, 2010, 11:01:54 AM
I just get sick of all the negativity.  We just went to the Elite 8 and are a top 5 pre-season team.  We have a coach who turned down 2.5 at Oregon and a a great staff.  Instead of enjoying it we berate them.  Enjoy the freaking ride.  We sound like the mid-courters at Lawrence.  You know the tools that call into the Monday night shows suggesting a change to the coach.  Always ridiculous.  

jfc.  if you don't like the negativity skip over it.  failing (and nonsensical) arguments will only compound your misery.  fwiw, tia  :blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 04, 2010, 11:03:18 AM
I just get sick of all the negativity.  We just went to the Elite 8 and are a top 5 pre-season team.  We have a coach who turned down 2.5 at Oregon and a a great staff.  Instead of enjoying it we berate them.  Enjoy the freaking ride.  We sound like the mid-courters at Lawrence.  You know the tools that call into the Monday night shows suggesting a change to the coach.  Always ridiculous. 

I don't see how pointing out that we're not recruiting at the same level as Michigan St, a national power, is being negative. It's the simple truth.

The simple truth is that Adrian Diaz had an 1 verified(possibly 2)offer(s) from other BCS schools when he committed to us. Still doesn't mean he won't turn out to be a productive player for KSU, but taking that kind of kid early in the process is a bigger risk than taking a top 100 kid with multiple BCS offers at the same time.

Gipson and Diaz could both be very solid role players for us, but at some point, if we want to maintain Top 25 status, we're going to have get players who have the POTENTIAL to be difference makers. I do think Williams has that kind of potential and I thought that even before he was given 4*, I'd like to see us land more players like him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 04, 2010, 11:27:01 AM
If Gipson is a kid that can get bumped and finish, pretty much unlike anyone we've had since Beasley/Walker and then provide a 10 and 10 every night, and twice on Sunday I am good with that.



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 04, 2010, 12:00:56 PM
I'm really liking Gipsons game.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 04, 2010, 12:06:44 PM
I just get sick of all the negativity.  We just went to the Elite 8 and are a top 5 pre-season team.  We have a coach who turned down 2.5 at Oregon and a a great staff.  Instead of enjoying it we berate them.  Enjoy the freaking ride.  We sound like the mid-courters at Lawrence.  You know the tools that call into the Monday night shows suggesting a change to the coach.  Always ridiculous. 
sorry but your michigan state comparo was so stupid i have to think it was either a joke or you have the downs.  either way, you suck as a poster.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: threadkiller on August 04, 2010, 12:10:48 PM
It seems like most here share the opinion that Frank and co. are pretty good at identifying talent.  Still, lots of scepticism over a couple guys who Frank apparently accepted early commitments from.  I know, it's bbsing, and I do enjoy reading it, but still.  Anyone who thinks we're not going to take a stud 1 or 2 or both (if they want to sign) becasue we took commitments from these two players is not paying attention. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on August 04, 2010, 12:12:26 PM
Lolz @ pc.  I was just wondering why no one gets PI'd any more.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 04, 2010, 12:16:53 PM
It seems like most here share the opinion that Frank and co. are pretty good at identifying talent.  Still, lots of scepticism over a couple guys who Frank apparently accepted early commitments from.

These commitments aren't early.  They won't play again until after the fall signing period.

Sprads, Nino, and Mitchell were early commitments.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: KITNfury on August 04, 2010, 12:24:05 PM
I pretty much only care about who's on their offer list. Unless they have lots of stars, then that's all I care about.

BTW - wtf is w/ the sleeveless "T" Thomas?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on August 04, 2010, 01:15:10 PM
As for Dalonte, the man has BIG value to our program.  You guys want the 5 stars every year and its not going to happen.  

How about a 5 star every other year?  Is that too much to ask of a guy making half a million dollars a year to do one thing, recruit.



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 04, 2010, 01:19:06 PM
Im feeding quinn cooks mind right now.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on August 04, 2010, 01:36:27 PM
btw doubledribbledd, i do like your positive outlook so please stick around.  you just don't have to justify yourself to those who disagree with you.  fwiw, tia  :cheers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 04, 2010, 01:43:35 PM
Someone please post pics so I can judge adorableness
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 01:45:12 PM
The simple truth is that Adrian Diaz had an 1 verified(possibly 2)offer(s) from other BCS schools when he committed to us. Still doesn't mean he won't turn out to be a productive player for KSU, but taking that kind of kid early in the process is a bigger risk than taking a top 100 kid with multiple BCS offers at the same time.

Gipson and Diaz could both be very solid role players for us, but at some point, if we want to maintain Top 25 status, we're going to have get players who have the POTENTIAL to be difference makers. I do think Williams has that kind of potential and I thought that even before he was given 4*, I'd like to see us land more players like him.

 :love:

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 02:07:56 PM
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Gip is benefiting from the overall lack of elite-level posts in this class. In a typical class, a player with his skill set and body type would be a mid-major contributor at best.

Consequently, all posts are being over-valued in the 2011 class. His contributions at K-State will largely depend on his ability to change his work ethic both in games and out of games, and on developing fundamental footwork and angle improvements.

Right now he relies 100% on his physical assets to play the game. At the major D1 level, he'll be facing many players who are his equal physically. In games where he's pitted against like-bodied or better-bodied players, he currently disappears because he doesn't have great footwork or feel for the game to find an advantage.

He'll likely find it tough to even get minutes at K-State. Unless something changes with him, look for him to ultimately transfer out, after a year or two, to somewhere mid-major or below, looking for playing time. New coach at Cedar Hill (where he plays HS) is really good. Maybe this will light a fire with Gip and he can change all this.

 :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 02:09:52 PM
God damnit.  Bossi?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2010, 02:10:25 PM
jfc nice quoting sys
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
So we now have two bigs who everyone is saying are high majors ONLY because the rest of the bigs in their class suck a historic amount of ass....fantastic  :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 02:29:45 PM
From big time Kansas State message board poster/supporter/scout:

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Your way off base. My son's AAU played DC Assault in Cali last week (we beat them in the semi's) Dalonte was there and is still considered the man.

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You should have seen the respect Coach Hill was getting. All the kids were aware he was in the gym watching games. Folks our program has really arrived. We need to let them do their thing.

dc assault didn't play in california last week.  the 17s did lose in the semis to the ny panthers in phoenix.  not sure what they did in vegas, but i don't think they made the semis (16s lost in finals there).


irregardless, i question btksmbp's powers of observo.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 02:31:45 PM
God damnit.  Bossi?

soonerdaze.  honestly, i don't agree.  but i do respect his opinion, and he sees the dfw guys a lot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 02:33:23 PM
God damnit.  Bossi?

soonerdaze.  honestly, i don't agree.  but i do respect his opinion, and he sees the dfw guys a lot.

I'm not familiar with him so I'm going to pretend like he doesn't know to make myself feel better.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 04, 2010, 03:21:42 PM
Quote
Gip is benefiting from the overall lack of elite-level posts in this class. In a typical class, a player with his skill set and body type would be a mid-major contributor at best.

Consequently, all posts are being over-valued in the 2011 class. His contributions at K-State will largely depend on his ability to change his work ethic both in games and out of games, and on developing fundamental footwork and angle improvements.

Right now he relies 100% on his physical assets to play the game. At the major D1 level, he'll be facing many players who are his equal physically. In games where he's pitted against like-bodied or better-bodied players, he currently disappears because he doesn't have great footwork or feel for the game to find an advantage.

He'll likely find it tough to even get minutes at K-State. Unless something changes with him, look for him to ultimately transfer out, after a year or two, to somewhere mid-major or below, looking for playing time. New coach at Cedar Hill (where he plays HS) is really good. Maybe this will light a fire with Gip and he can change all this.

 :frown:

All of those issues are almost entirely in the domain of coaching and player development.    There are a very, very, very few high school recruits who do not struggle against like bodied/ability players.    The "he struggles against guys his size and build/he looks good because of the talent he plays against" is quite possibly the dumbest basketball recruiting commentary in history . . . well no $hit captain obvious, and the same thing could be said of damn nearly every Top 150 recruit out there, unless he's fvcking Lebron or Kobe.





Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2010, 03:25:29 PM
Quote
Gip is benefiting from the overall lack of elite-level posts in this class. In a typical class, a player with his skill set and body type would be a mid-major contributor at best.

Consequently, all posts are being over-valued in the 2011 class. His contributions at K-State will largely depend on his ability to change his work ethic both in games and out of games, and on developing fundamental footwork and angle improvements.

Right now he relies 100% on his physical assets to play the game. At the major D1 level, he'll be facing many players who are his equal physically. In games where he's pitted against like-bodied or better-bodied players, he currently disappears because he doesn't have great footwork or feel for the game to find an advantage.

He'll likely find it tough to even get minutes at K-State. Unless something changes with him, look for him to ultimately transfer out, after a year or two, to somewhere mid-major or below, looking for playing time. New coach at Cedar Hill (where he plays HS) is really good. Maybe this will light a fire with Gip and he can change all this.

 :frown:

All of those issues are almost entirely in the domain of coaching and player development.    There are a very, very, very few high school recruits who do not struggle against like bodied/ability players.    The "he struggles against guys his size and build/he looks good because of the talent he plays against" is quite possibly the dumbest basketball recruiting commentary in history . . . well no $hit captain obvious, and the same thing could be said of damn nearly every Top 150 recruit out there, unless he's fvcking Lebron or Kobe.



 :surprised:  :D
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 03:28:02 PM
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The early signing period hasn't even started, but Kansas State coach Frank Martin is off to a great start by landing two post presences in Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and Adrian Diaz  (Hialeah, Fla./ Hialeah Miami Lakes). It is very difficult to find size in any draft class, particularly early, which makes it that much more impressive for Martin to bring in the 6-foot-7, 240-pound Gipson and the 7-0, 205-pound Diaz. Now, Kansas State can focus on building around these two bigs to fill out its 2011 recruiting class.

I recently saw both of these prospects play and it is fair to say that Gipson will have an immediate impact and be factor in the Big 12, while Diaz has even more upside.

Gipson is a legitimate threat inside and displayed an uncanny ability to create space with his body in the paint at the Fab 48 in Las Vegas. The lefty power forward's body is so big and strong that he looked unstoppable at times. Gipson has strong hands for rebounding, but a soft touch to use his go-to move -- a lefty hook over his right shoulder.

Despite having a thin frame, Diaz showed at the AAU Nationals in Orlando, Fla., that he could make his presence felt with his shot blocking, ability to run the floor and 15-foot jumper. His potential is very high due to his size and skills, but he needs to become best friends with the strength and conditioning coach.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog?name=basketball_recruiting&id=5437295&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmens-college-basketball%2fblog%3fname%3dbasketball_recruiting%26id%3d5437295
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 03:30:01 PM
Well, that was encouraging at least
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2010, 03:35:13 PM
It's like these people aren't watching the same dudes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 03:38:17 PM
There are a very, very, very few high school recruits who do not struggle against like bodied/ability players.    The "he struggles against guys his size and build/he looks good because of the talent he plays against" is quite possibly the dumbest basketball recruiting commentary in history . . .

i get what you're saying, and it may be overused.  but, no, not really.  there are plenty of recruits that don't struggle at all against like-bodied players.  in fact, they tend to dominate them.  pretty much the entire top 50 falls into that category.  then you've got many more players that don't standout physically, but excel on skill.

i do think the whole "let's see if he can do that at a high-major" thing that gets thrown at every short thick pf is incredibly overdone.  1)  even at high majors, there aren't many 6'9" 260 guys.  or even other 6'6" 260 guys.  those thick bastards can still knock everyone out of the way at high-majors.  2)  there is an extremely long, very distinguished list of short pfs that were productive in college.  but for some reason all the recruiting analysts get collective amnesia on the subject whenever they see a recruit under 6'8" in the post.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2010, 03:40:09 PM

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The early signing period hasn't even started, but Kansas State coach Frank Martin is off to a great start by landing two post presences in Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and Adrian Diaz  (Hialeah, Fla./ Hialeah Miami Lakes). It is very difficult to find size in any draft class, particularly early, which makes it that much more impressive for Martin to bring in the 6-foot-7, 240-pound Gipson and the 7-0, 205-pound Diaz. Now, Kansas State can focus on building around these two bigs to fill out its 2011 recruiting class.

Isn't it filled to the brim??  :confused:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 04, 2010, 03:54:50 PM
There are a very, very, very few high school recruits who do not struggle against like bodied/ability players.    The "he struggles against guys his size and build/he looks good because of the talent he plays against" is quite possibly the dumbest basketball recruiting commentary in history . . .

i get what you're saying, and it may be overused.  but, no, not really.  there are plenty of recruits that don't struggle at all against like-bodied players.  in fact, they tend to dominate them.  pretty much the entire top 50 falls into that category.  then you've got many more players that don't standout physically, but excel on skill.

i do think the whole "let's see if he can do that at a high-major" thing that gets thrown at every short thick pf is incredibly overdone.  1)  even at high majors, there aren't many 6'9" 260 guys.  or even other 6'6" 260 guys.  those thick bastards can still knock everyone out of the way at high-majors.  2)  there is an extremely long, very distinguished list of short pfs that were productive in college.  but for some reason all the recruiting analysts get collective amnesia on the subject whenever they see a recruit under 6'8" in the post.

It's all relative . . . and who are these "like bodied" players??   In addition, I'll maintain that a player of that build that struggles against "like bodied" players has not been taught well, particularly how to use their bodies.   That's a coaching issue, and a correctable issue.   But look at what the guy from ESPN says . . . like someone said, it's like they're not watching the same player.   Like I said, sometimes a simple adjustment, or a coaching pointer or two makes a lot of difference to a kid like this with physical attributes like he has.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: stobblebobby on August 04, 2010, 04:49:04 PM
I'm a noob, but been following a while...

much more excited about Gipson than Diaz, but this is at least encouraging that he won't be like our last 7 footer from Florida:

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Seven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044)

 :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 04, 2010, 05:37:53 PM
I'm a noob, but been following a while...

much more excited about Gipson than Diaz, but this is at least encouraging that he won't be like our last 7 footer from Florida:

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Seven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044)

 :dunno:

Excellent first time use of  :dunno:.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 04, 2010, 05:39:17 PM
I'm a noob, but been following a while...

much more excited about Gipson than Diaz, but this is at least encouraging that he won't be like our last 7 footer from Florida:

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Seven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044)

 :dunno:

Excellent first time use of  :dunno:.

I like to usse it when you're proving someone wrong, but trying to be humble about it.  Inside, you're gloating like crazy but, on the outside, you're just cool as a cucumber.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 04, 2010, 05:51:57 PM
I'm a noob, but been following a while...

much more excited about Gipson than Diaz, but this is at least encouraging that he won't be like our last 7 footer from Florida:

Quote
Seven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044)

 :dunno:

Excellent first time use of  :dunno:.

But horrible use of avatar.  I mean, powercat facing left?  lol.  He's right.  He is a n00b.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 04, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
I'm a noob, but been following a while...

much more excited about Gipson than Diaz, but this is at least encouraging that he won't be like our last 7 footer from Florida:

Quote
Seven-foot center Adrian Diaz is a major sleeper in the 2011 class. In a class lacking high quality bigs, Diaz could become a priority in the near future. He is a long and has a developing offensive game. You can't teach size and Diaz has that in abundance. Playing for Gold Coast, Diaz has been moderately productive. Scoring inside, showing a decent face up game, blocking shots and rebounding his position. Look for his recruiting to pick up real soon.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5428044)

 :dunno:

Excellent first time use of  :dunno:.

But horrible use of avatar.  I mean, powercat facing left?  lol.  He's right.  He is a n00b.

QFT.  I didn't even notice that.  rough ridin' guy may as well just set fire to the  :kstatriot:.    <-----These colors don't run, bitch!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on August 04, 2010, 06:58:19 PM
I'm very comfortable when I hear "Diaz needs to be best friends with the strength and conditioning coach"...I'm guessing Greenie won't give him much of a choice.  If the kid has a body that can add weight (don't see JHR) then he could become a force with a few years under Scott.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 07:27:52 PM
I'm very comfortable when I hear "Diaz needs to be best friends with the strength and conditioning coach"...I'm guessing Greenie won't give him much of a choice.  If the kid has a body that can add weight (don't see JHR) then he could become a force with a few years under Scott.

honestly, that isn't even the issue.  the thing is:  why take a 2011 project big, knowing full well that he has absolutely no chance to contribute as a freshman when you could take a position of need combo guard with a decent chance to contribute immediately?

knowing full well that 2012 is a very good class for bigs and there's a decent chance that you could get a 2012 big able to give you as soph what diaz could give you as a jr?

also knowing full well that there are always oppys for quality transfer and juco bigs in the spring if your whole plan goes to crap.

it just doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 07:35:09 PM
I'm very comfortable when I hear "Diaz needs to be best friends with the strength and conditioning coach"...I'm guessing Greenie won't give him much of a choice.  If the kid has a body that can add weight (don't see JHR) then he could become a force with a few years under Scott.

honestly, that isn't even the issue.  the thing is:  why take a 2011 project big, knowing full well that he has absolutely no chance to contribute as a freshman when you could take a position of need combo guard with a decent chance to contribute immediately?

knowing full well that 2012 is a very good class for bigs and there's a decent chance that you could get a 2012 big able to give you as soph what diaz could give you as a jr?

also knowing full well that there are always oppys for quality transfer and juco bigs in the spring if your whole plan goes to crap.

it just doesn't make any sense.

Great summary of the situation we are in here folks ^
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CrushNasty on August 04, 2010, 07:39:19 PM
Haven't looked back to the first mentions of Gipson, but I find many ways I can spin this as a great get... I'd be pretty darn ecstatic if we didn't have such a need for a guard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgcsLZbxI-g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gprYa13731A&feature=related

edit: BTW, BigGipfan  :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 07:39:53 PM
Quote from:  Meek
Growing up, Thomas Gipson had a workout routine that would rival anything Kansas State strength coach Scott Greenawalt could concoct.

"In second grade I was 6-foot, but I was skinny," said Gipson, K-State's newest basketball commit. "So my pops told me to go out to the ranch."

The ranch was 100 acres of land near Seguin, Texas, where Gipson trained by flipping telephone poles, lifting logs and running sprints in the smothering South Texas heat. When he wasn't working out, Gipson would repair fences or drive the tractor.

"It's always like 100 degrees," Gipson said. "The worst thing was the monster truck tires, having to flip them for 50 yards."

The grueling routine helped mold Gipson into a 6-foot-7, 245-pound power forward who should mesh perfectly with K-State's physical brand of basketball. Gipson, a three-star prospect in the class of 2011, chose K-State over offers from Baylor, West Virginia, California and Iowa.

"When they see him, people think he should have played football," said Gipson's mother, Cassundra. "He's always been a pretty big fella. Instead of playing football, he's used to banging on the court."

K-State started recruiting Gipson when he was a sophomore in high school, and he formed a bond with assistant coach Matt Figger. The interest was strong enough that, during an unofficial visit to Baylor last year, Gipson was fixated on the road team. (K-State won the game 76-74 on two late free throws.)

"Thomas liked coaching style, liked the team, liked the way they worked together," Cassundra said.

The decision itself was easy enough.

"He told me, 'I think I want to go to K-State,'" Cassundra said. "I said, 'Are you sure?' He said, 'Yeah.'"

"Talking to the head coach, seeing him in the stands every single game, that was just a heads up," Thomas said.

Gipson gives K-State two 2011 commitments in the past few days. Adrian Diaz, a 6-foot-11 center from Miami, gave K-State a verbal pledge on Sunday.

http://cjonline.com/sports/basketball/2010-08-04/ksu_recruit_knows_how_to_work
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 07:47:12 PM
good meek article.  sad he's so lazy we only get these once a month or so.  :sigh:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 04, 2010, 07:48:39 PM
Figger?!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 07:50:11 PM
Figger?!

anyone from Texas is Figs
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on August 04, 2010, 08:03:49 PM
I call BS on the "I was 6' in second grade". 

I am 6'-5" and was 5' in 3rd grade(still by far and away the tallest in my class at that time).  I don't remember when I wasn't the tallest in my grade.

No way unless he was 12 yrs old while in 2nd grade.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 04, 2010, 08:08:54 PM
I call BS on the "I was 6' in second grade". 

I am 6'-5" and was 5' in 3rd grade(still by far and away the tallest in my class at that time).  I don't remember when I wasn't the tallest in my grade.

No way unless he was 12 yrs old while in 2nd grade.

I think he was prolly just making the point that he was tall
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: _33 on August 04, 2010, 08:23:53 PM
I call BS on the "I was 6' in second grade". 

I am 6'-5" and was 5' in 3rd grade(still by far and away the tallest in my class at that time).  I don't remember when I wasn't the tallest in my grade.

No way unless he was 12 yrs old while in 2nd grade.

Agreed.  And did you see the line about it ALWAYS being 100 degrees in Texas?  Is he saying that it is 100 degrees year 'round, even in the winter?  I don't buy it.  WE KNOW YOU ARE LYING THOMAS!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 10:26:02 PM
edit: BTW, BigGipfan  :love:

his mother, i believe.  is on twitter anyways.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: threadkiller on August 04, 2010, 11:15:56 PM
I'm very comfortable when I hear "Diaz needs to be best friends with the strength and conditioning coach"...I'm guessing Greenie won't give him much of a choice.  If the kid has a body that can add weight (don't see JHR) then he could become a force with a few years under Scott.

honestly, that isn't even the issue.  the thing is:  why take a 2011 project big, knowing full well that he has absolutely no chance to contribute as a freshman when you could take a position of need combo guard with a decent chance to contribute immediately?

Why do people keep saying that the commitment of one recruit means the elimination of another (especially at a different position)?  I can hardly wait for the  meltdown when the next commit is ARod.  I would be shocked to hear from one of these elitey guards that KSU has stopped recruiting him. 

Potential 2011 bigs = Wally, Freddy, JHR, Jamar (kind of).  If all return we've got 6 guys who could potentially play the 4/5 (not counting Victor O).  It's possible Jamar could be playing the 3 or at least splitting minutes there, so it's really 5 1/2 imo.  That's right where we should be scholarship #'s wise.  It's also possible that either Freddy or Wally blow up this season and look at their professional options.  We've heard over and over that Freddy expects to be a professional player, his standard of "ready" might be quite different from ours.  We might need 2 bigs in this class to cover our bases for depth if nothing else.  I can understand the argument of juco v. project.  However, the staff might not view Diaz as much of a project as we do right now (having never seen a second of tape on him).  Also, the need might be at the 5 in 11.  I haven't seen the juco 5 that we've shown any interest in. 

Compare that to our 2011 guard situation = Tay, Nick, Will, Juevol, Omari (if he stays), DPete (if he makes it), Rodney (We'll call him .5 like Jamar at 4).  I don't expect all those guys to be here in 11, but there are #'s right now.  Also, virtually 0 chance of any of those guys leaving for professional leagues (idk why, but I worry more about foreignish guys leaving for foreign league $).  Absolutely we take a guard (hell, maybe 2) if we think he'll contribute right away.  It's not a position though where we might HAVE to get one to not be short. 
 
knowing full well that 2012 is a very good class for bigs and there's a decent chance that you could get a 2012 big able to give you as soph what diaz could give you as a jr?

Another intimation that our scholarships are static 4 year commitments.  I'm sure we'll take at least 1 big in 12.  Also if the staff doesn't think diaz is progressing up to their expectations and a younger player would contribute more to the program...... 

also knowing full well that there are always oppys for quality transfer and juco bigs in the spring if your whole plan goes to crap.

it just doesn't make any sense.

We got a quality transfer to come in this year on a free trial, and possibly a quality juco to walk on.  In Frank we trust. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2010, 11:26:53 PM
Why do people keep saying that the commitment of one recruit means the elimination of another (especially at a different position)?

'cause there are only 13 'ships.   elimination of someone on roster or some other recruit.   that's kind of exactly what it means.



notice when you talked about the on roster bigs you mentioned some maybe leaving for the pros.  when you talked about the on roster guards you talked about some maybe getting run because they sucked.  in a nutshell that's why kstate needs guards more than bigs in 2011.





Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: threadkiller on August 05, 2010, 12:07:17 AM
When we go an offseason w/out at least one scholarship player transferring elsewhere I'll start to worry about the 13 scholarship limit.  Until then, I'll continue under the assumption that we'll have room for any player we really want and can get.  

Actually, I wouldn't say that any player Frank and staff have given a scholarship to so far has "sucked".  I remember "sucked".  Thankfully the standards now are much higher then alive.  The reason I said I don't expect all those guards back is more because the #'s/class (don't expect us to keep 6 scholarship players in the same class) then their being worthless. 

The numbers and potential numbers say we need bigs more then guards in 11.  I don't know how many different ways I can say this though.  We're going to take guard(s) in 11.   If you don't like a recruit because of the recruit, fire away.  If there are any other 4/5's we were in on that you really wanted, I could see the argument.  To say you don't like a recruit because you think it means we won't be able to get a really good recruit at another position is silly/naive.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 05, 2010, 12:25:16 AM
We're going to take guard(s) in 11.   If you don't like a recruit because of the recruit, fire away.  If there are any other 4/5's we were in on that you really wanted, I could see the argument.  To say you don't like a recruit because you think it means we won't be able to get a really good recruit at another position is silly/naive.  

i hope you are correct.

any way you cut it though, as long as diaz is on roster, someone else isn't.  so yes, there are other players (bigs/guards, 11s/12s, whatever) that i would rather have.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2010, 07:18:41 AM
we need an impact guard much more than we need an impact big.  We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign.  A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on August 05, 2010, 08:07:25 AM
We're going to take guard(s) in 11.   If you don't like a recruit because of the recruit, fire away.  If there are any other 4/5's we were in on that you really wanted, I could see the argument.  To say you don't like a recruit because you think it means we won't be able to get a really good recruit at another position is silly/naive. 

i hope you are correct.

I'm very confident that he is correct.  Because everything asserted in this thread about Frank's recruiting methodology has been spot on.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: threadkiller on August 05, 2010, 09:12:58 AM
We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign. 

Well played sir, but your underhanded use of unitalicized sarcasm will not draw me in. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: C_Manbeck on August 05, 2010, 10:04:14 AM
we need an impact guard much more than we need an impact big.  We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign.  A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.

Florida offer...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Saulbadguy on August 05, 2010, 10:09:34 AM
we need an impact guard much more than we need an impact big.  We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign.  A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.

Florida offer...
Does a Florida offer make him suck less? Please expand on that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 05, 2010, 10:28:10 AM
A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.

For a class to "suck ass," don't the players in the class have to suck ass? 

Everything I'm reading about Gipson is that he could/should be a top #100 player by the time it's all said and done.  Diaz doesn't exactly get dog crap reviews either. 

Is it just the personnel distribution (ie too many bigs v. guards) that your unhappy with? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2010, 10:33:52 AM
Everything I'm reading about Gipson is that he could/should be a top #100 player by the time it's all said and done.  Diaz doesn't exactly get dog crap reviews either. 

I hate this talking point.  You read it about everyone.  The thing is, if he's destined to be a top 100 player, which top 100 players aren't supposed to be there?  You know what you rarely read?  Someone posting that their new recruit is currently ranked in the top 100 but when it's all said and done he's prolly not going to be in the top 150.  But, yeah, my primary problem is I've said forever that I really want an impact pg/combo in this class.  As chum has repeatedly pointed out, Frank seems to be happy with the guys we have there.  And, the fact that we have arguably already oversigned tells me our only hope at signing a pg/combo is in the late stages once we've jettisoned some losers....which means we aren't getting a highly rated pg/combo. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on August 05, 2010, 10:58:06 AM

I hate this talking point.  You read it about everyone.  The thing is, if he's destined to be a top 100 player, which top 100 players aren't supposed to be there?  You know what you rarely read?  Someone posting that their new recruit is currently ranked in the top 100 but when it's all said and done he's prolly not going to be in the top 150.  But, yeah, my primary problem is I've said forever that I really want an impact pg/combo in this class.  As chum has repeatedly pointed out, Frank seems to be happy with the guys we have there.  And, the fact that we have arguably already oversigned tells me our only hope at signing a pg/combo is in the late stages once we've jettisoned some losers....which means we aren't getting a highly rated pg/combo. 

I certainly get where you're coming from re: impact pg/combo guard.  I hope the guys we have develop into playmakers, but outside of Pullen and McGruder, we're pretty unproven. 

With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking.  He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100?  The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools.  Obviously, he's a valuable player.  And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off.  See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).   
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on August 05, 2010, 11:05:34 AM
Quote
See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).     

please elaborate
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2010, 11:08:53 AM
With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking.  He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100?  The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools.  Obviously, he's a valuable player.  And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off.  See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).    

Nobody has even mentioned his ranking more than in passing except for you.  I certainly haven't except in general response to the "should be top 100" comment.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 05, 2010, 11:20:27 AM
Is it just the personnel distribution (ie too many bigs v. guards) that your unhappy with? 

I think everyone here is ok with Gipson, the issue is that we need an impact guard and not another 7 footer in Diaz.

Gipson fits Frank's system perfect, or will.  So do really good guards.  2 7 footers?  I don't get it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 05, 2010, 11:45:20 AM
Did anyone else here realize Pullen WAS actually ranked in the Top 100 in his class .... by ESPN. The red-headed step child of recruiting evaluation actually got 1 right.

He's no DPete but...

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=43291&season=2007&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d43291%26season%3d2007
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 05, 2010, 11:45:33 AM
Using the Frank method . . . of JHO doesn't pick it up, he's likely gone after this year.  JMO.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on August 05, 2010, 11:46:47 AM
Using the Frank method . . . of JHO doesn't pick it up, he's likely gone after this year.  JMO.

Wyatt and Lon got a head start on running him off this summer.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on August 05, 2010, 12:21:46 PM
BP...

Quote
Gipson & Diaz

Powerful 6-7 PF inside grinder with "no finesse" compared to Haslem
(Miami Senior HS/U Florida)

Long 6-11 C runner, flier, high post shooter with much PO

OLD School KSU folks.....Les Craft & Randy Reed.....other odd pairs ???


Quote
POtential, he should be in 2012 Class!

2011 is a weak Class nationally for "size", this Staff got two goodens in a
tight year for PF & C.

Think they are "planning" on 3 schollies for 2011 Class,
3rd one to go to a PG.

2012 Class nationally has mucho BIGS, several in Kansas Area.....

REPEAT:
*this Staff will BE recruiting always*
**there WILL be Players in Manhappiness**


When asked if the PG may come from South Florida...

Quote
.....with an Angelic name!
NOT the most Gifted, IS a Tuff Nutt that is very familiar with FM!

PG Play from: Nick, Will, Juevol, ???
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on August 05, 2010, 12:24:12 PM
More BP

Quote
Diaz, two negatives:
1. needs bulk, strength (just get to a hardened 225#)
2. young for his Class (Red-Shirt)

LIKED him in Jan. 2008, as a Soph!
Long, Athletic, Offensive, Energy, Shot range


Quote
Red-Shirting is MY opinion!

BIGS can always us more time.....HE is a young Senior*

Depends, IF Wally and/or Fred are @ KSU for 2011-2012 Season
(I think they will be)

Depends HOW his body attracts poundage... strength...



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on August 05, 2010, 12:40:23 PM
I want to see Diaz run and jump.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on August 05, 2010, 12:45:54 PM
with all the supposed great bigs available in the 2012 class wouldn't redshirting Diaz be the utlimate in retardery?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 05, 2010, 12:48:02 PM
with all the supposed great bigs available in the 2012 class wouldn't redshirting Diaz be the utlimate in retardery?

Not if we're planning on taking mostly guards in 2012.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 05, 2010, 12:53:33 PM
we need an impact guard much more than we need an impact big.  We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign.  A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.

Florida offer...

A Gator weighs in ..

"We are monitoring Angel just in case Boynton decides to go pro (NBA or Europe) after this year. We would not sign him in the Fall, but if he is still there in the spring and we like what he does this HS season, there is a chance we might take him....the only guard we would take in the Fall is Kedren Johnson"

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=145696777&sid=910&tid=145637036&style=1
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 05, 2010, 12:58:53 PM

I hate this talking point.  You read it about everyone.  The thing is, if he's destined to be a top 100 player, which top 100 players aren't supposed to be there?  You know what you rarely read?  Someone posting that their new recruit is currently ranked in the top 100 but when it's all said and done he's prolly not going to be in the top 150.  But, yeah, my primary problem is I've said forever that I really want an impact pg/combo in this class.  As chum has repeatedly pointed out, Frank seems to be happy with the guys we have there.  And, the fact that we have arguably already oversigned tells me our only hope at signing a pg/combo is in the late stages once we've jettisoned some losers....which means we aren't getting a highly rated pg/combo. 

I certainly get where you're coming from re: impact pg/combo guard.  I hope the guys we have develop into playmakers, but outside of Pullen and McGruder, we're pretty unproven. 

With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking.  He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100?  The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools.  Obviously, he's a valuable player.  And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off.  See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).   

Pullen was nothing special his freshman year.  Give Judge another year or two before you start labeling him as a bust.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2010, 01:00:00 PM
Good work in that thread UW
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 05, 2010, 01:01:50 PM
Good work in that thread UW

Just reppin the KSU Cats bro!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 05, 2010, 01:02:40 PM
we need an impact guard much more than we need an impact big.  We've basically lost any hope at getting one in this class given Frank's hesitance to oversign.  A-Rod is almost a guarantee at this point....which makes this class suck ass.

Florida offer...

A Gator weighs in ..

"We are monitoring Angel just in case Boynton decides to go pro (NBA or Europe) after this year. We would not sign him in the Fall, but if he is still there in the spring and we like what he does this HS season, there is a chance we might take him....the only guard we would take in the Fall is Kedren Johnson"

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=145696777&sid=910&tid=145637036&style=1


That just a fan chiming in, or someone with some insidery connections?  I find it hard to believe that there is only 1 guard in the entire country they would take in the fall...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 05, 2010, 01:12:49 PM
... If you are capable of reading between the lines at all, Kedren Johnson is the only guard UF has been actively recruiting that they would take in the Fall.

If Austin Rivers did a complete 180, and said he wanted to recommit there, I'm sure they would take him. Same as if Josiah Turner, Ky Madden, and Quinn Cook all had miraculous epiphanys that they should become Gators. But anybody with a half brain realizes that's not happening.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2010, 01:17:27 PM
Good work in that thread UW

Just reppin the KSU Cats bro!

Most of our fans on the national board are the tardiest of tards :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 05, 2010, 01:17:42 PM
... If you are capable of reading between the lines at all, Kedren Johnson is the only guard UF has been actively recruiting that they would take in the Fall.

If Austin Rivers did a complete 180, and said he wanted to recommit there, I'm sure they would take him. Same as if Josiah Turner, Ky Madden, and Quinn Cook all had miraculous epiphanys that they should become Gators. But anybody with a half brain realizes that's not happening.

That's who I was specifically thinking of.  I know it looks like Duke for him, but I would imagine that UF would take him in a heartbeat if he was suddenly available.  Guess I just don't like people making such concrete statements about things that are still undecided.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 05, 2010, 01:20:42 PM
Word on Rivers is that it's going to come down to Duke and UNC. He may still give them the obligatory mention in his updates, but UF doesn't really stand a snowball's chance in hell and they know it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 05, 2010, 02:34:25 PM
i still like ar-t, btw.  would be happy to get him if somehow diaz, jhr and irving get pushed out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 05, 2010, 03:30:12 PM
With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking.  He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100?  The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools.  Obviously, he's a valuable player.  And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off.  See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).   

Nobody has even mentioned his ranking more than in passing except for you.  I certainly haven't except in general response to the "should be top 100" comment. 

hadwood elite has him top 100.

http://www.hardwoodelite.com/prospects-list.php

booyah
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 05, 2010, 03:33:30 PM
With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking.  He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100?  The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools.  Obviously, he's a valuable player.  And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off.  See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).   

Nobody has even mentioned his ranking more than in passing except for you.  I certainly haven't except in general response to the "should be top 100" comment. 

hadwood elite has him top 100.

http://www.hardwoodelite.com/prospects-list.php

booyah

I see what you did there.  :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 05, 2010, 04:21:35 PM
With a guy like Gipson, though, I think it's a bit superficial to get amped amped up about his player ranking.  He sucks if he's not in the top-100, but he's good if he's in the top-100?  The fact is that the guy has offers from 5-6 solid BCS schools.  Obviously, he's a valuable player.  And when these HS kids get on a college campus, all bets are off.  See Judge (5*) v. Pullen (3*).   

Nobody has even mentioned his ranking more than in passing except for you.  I certainly haven't except in general response to the "should be top 100" comment. 

hadwood elite has him top 100.

http://www.hardwoodelite.com/prospects-list.php

booyah

Ranked ahead of Harrison, COMPELETELY different style of players that you can't really make head to head comparison between, but still, noteworthy.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doubledribble on August 05, 2010, 04:36:43 PM
What????  Gipson will end up in the top 100?  I got slammed for saying that yesterday.  Sorry Angel, we don't want 3 stars.  And just because you are offered by Billy Donovan, that's not good enough either. :jerk:  Ask KU and Mizzou how their 5 star studs are going pan out for them.  Oh, and Jake nothing special his freshmen year.  Go back and watch the tape vs. KU at home.  Kid hung 20 points on the squawks. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on August 05, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
I agree that Jake was more than "nothing special" as a frosh.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on August 05, 2010, 04:39:19 PM
'grats doubledribble.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doubledribble on August 05, 2010, 04:44:37 PM
Jake Pullen:  23 minutes, 9.7 pts, and 3.2 assists per game as a frosh.  Not bad for playing by Beaz.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 05, 2010, 04:57:29 PM
What????  Gipson will end up in the top 100?  I got slammed for saying that yesterday.

good call.  booyah.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 05, 2010, 05:59:20 PM
Okay, Okay . . . I am no where close to going all in on DD, but I am giving some serious consideration to doubling down.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doubledribble on August 05, 2010, 06:26:40 PM
dug up some stuff on angel.  not all in on him yet but the qualities he speaks of remind me of dc.  offers from miami, nc state, florida.  notice how these kids frank gets in on early there value goes up over time.  definitely would take a-rod over selby.  that may spark a debate but would rather have a kid for 4 years than never stepping foot on campus but bragging to all your friends about how at least you could recruit kids like that.  Right BMW, oh wait my bad. :kstatriot:


 


By MANNY NAVARRO
[email protected]
In his many glorious seasons at Miami High, Shakey Rodriguez coached some of the greatest players to ever dribble a basketball in Miami-Dade County: Jose Ramos. Cesar Portillo. Vernon Delancy. Doug Edwards. Allen Edwards. Steve Edwards. Gimel Martinez.

All won state championships and starred in college. But there is something about junior Angel Rodriguez, his latest star pupil at Dr. Krop High, that makes the coach with five state championships and a 579-90 career record believe he could be the most special player he has coached.

``Angel is a bulldog,'' said Rodriguez, whose Lightning (26-4) takes on Orlando Dr. Phillips (26-5) at 8:30 p.m. Friday in its first state final four appearance. ``When the game's on the line, he's not going to let you lose. Not every great player has that quality. But Angel does. Jose Ramos did. Doug Edwards was like that. To me, before he graduates, he has a chance to be as good a guard as any in Dade County -- that includes Chris Corchiani.''

Since his arrival from Puerto Rico last year, Rodriguez (an All-Dade first-team selection last season as a sophomore) has led the Lightning in scoring and assists and to the GMAC title a year ago and now its first trip to Lakeland.

In last Saturday's regional final against Columbus, the 5-11 point guard scored 39 points, taking over in the second half to turn three-point game at halftime into Krop's third double-digit victory in the regional playoffs.

That outing was typical. In most of the Lightning's most impressive victories this season, it was Rodriguez, no relation to his coach, who was usually at the center of the late-game push. In a win over Jacksonville power Arlington Country Day, Rodriguez scored 38 points -- most in the second half. In a district rivalry win over Carol City at home, he scored 11 consecutive points in the fourth quarter to turn a close game into a blowout.

And when he has needed to, Rodriguez -- who is averaging 20.9 points this season -- has turned into the distributor his coach has wanted him to be.

``The thing that is beautiful about Angel is that he's uninterested in the individual side of the game,'' Rodriguez said. ``He's so conscious of the team concept, but he'll go out and get 39 against Columbus because he has to. Then, he'll go have seven points and 10 assists in the next game. He's a special kid with special qualities. It's all about his basketball team. That's the greatest thing a player can have. All his teammates love playing with him.''

Rodriguez, 17, came to Krop as a wing guard, following the footsteps of his cousin, N.C. State junior Javi Gonzalez, who scored a team-high 19 points in a win over the University of Miami last weekend. Rodriguez said he shares a bedroom with two younger brothers in a small apartment with his mother, Jacqueline. He said his family left Puerto Rico to give him a better opportunity to earn a college scholarship.

``There are some days when as an athlete you don't want to play, you want to relax at home,'' Angel Rodriguez said. ``What forces me to get up is them. They came here to help me and my future.''

According to his AAU coach, Art Pilin Alvarez of the Miami Tropics, Rodriguez already has an offer from Kansas State.

``The one thing I hate more than anything else is losing,'' Angel Rodriguez said. ``When it's a game that it's win or go home, I give everything I have in my body to make sure we don't go home. I just believe in my heart I'm going to be successful.''



Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/03/04/1511826/hes-not-going-to-let-you-lose.html#ixzz0vmDQMC8W
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 05, 2010, 07:49:06 PM
great find.  i like that he's puerto rican.  point being that denis clemente was also puerto rican.

 :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 05, 2010, 08:17:28 PM
funny looking back now on that article and shakey saying that when the game was on the line, a-rod wasn't going to let you lose, but then when they played dr. phillips and the game was on the line, they lost. 

still like a-rod tho.  don't know why he doesn't impress on The Circuit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on August 05, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
Any one have a link to a vid I can watch with angel? :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 05, 2010, 08:51:44 PM
Joke's on you guys, we discussed how he and Denis were both Puerto Rican back in March   :blank:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=7.msg30088#msg30088
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 05, 2010, 09:43:25 PM
don't know why he doesn't impress on The Circuit.

hardly played.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: stobblebobby on August 06, 2010, 08:35:07 AM
definitely would take a-rod over selby.  that may spark a debate


Spark a debate indeed...

Quote
I would suppose the odds are the Josh Selby will end up playing for Kansas this fall. However, where there is smoke there is fire. The question is whether the fire is big enough to be a problem with the NCAA. As you may have heard, he is being investigates for possibly having an oral agreement for future representation by a family friend.
http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/2411 (http://uponfurtherreview.kansascity.com/?q=node/2411)

How about Selby just doesn't show up in the first place? Even though Jake owning Selby like he did Jimmer would be fun, seeing Freddy, Wally and JamSam shut out Morris could be just as fun.
KU hating aside... still would probably take Selby over Angel.
Oh, and previous Avatar fail has been corrected.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2010, 09:30:27 AM
you would probably take selby over angel?  just probably? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 06, 2010, 09:32:10 AM
don't know why he doesn't impress on The Circuit.

hardly played.

but when he does, all reports are that he's a solid "meh".
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doubledribble on August 06, 2010, 09:43:45 AM
So after one year of Selby and maybe a sweet 16 or something compared to 4 years of fatty collins?  We have no idea how a-rod will turn out.  Let's say he turns out to be a 12 pts and 5-6 assists guy over the course of his career at ksu.  You still take Selby and the baggage?  Again its that debate about the stars and rankings.  Are the other two guys we are recruiting from dc assault 1 and done?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2010, 09:46:43 AM
i will not let you destroy this thread, dobbiedribble.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2010, 09:49:11 AM
dobbiedribble

lol
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doubledribble on August 06, 2010, 09:55:38 AM
Sorry I got too deep for you there.  I will keep it simple next time.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2010, 09:56:14 AM
Sorry I got too deep for you there.  I will keep it simple next time.


OHHH!  :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on August 06, 2010, 10:47:00 AM
GLOVES ARE OFF
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 06, 2010, 01:34:15 PM
So after one year of Selby and maybe a sweet 16 or something compared to 4 years of fatty collins?  We have no idea how a-rod will turn out.  Let's say he turns out to be a 12 pts and 5-6 assists guy over the course of his career at ksu.  You still take Selby and the baggage?  Again its that debate about the stars and rankings.  Are the other two guys we are recruiting from dc assault 1 and done?

ku will get to recruit a new player when selby leaves.  they don't have to leave it open for the following 3 years.

who do you mean with the dca recruits, seagears and cook?  there is scanty evidence either is still being recruited, but if those are the players referenced, no.  neither is a guy that could leave after a year.  not that convinced seagears is all that good, actually.  rather have ar-t.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2010, 01:59:30 PM
Quote
doubledribble
Guest

another victim of that vicious goEMAW poster intimidation
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on August 06, 2010, 02:03:41 PM
the guy didn't stand a chance.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 06, 2010, 02:17:12 PM
Quote
doubledribble
Guest

another victim of that vicious goEMAW poster intimidation

 :gocho:

sys, you can have your thread back
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 06, 2010, 02:30:26 PM
So after one year of Selby and maybe a sweet 16 or something compared to 4 years of fatty collins?  We have no idea how a-rod will turn out.  Let's say he turns out to be a 12 pts and 5-6 assists guy over the course of his career at ksu.  You still take Selby and the baggage?  Again its that debate about the stars and rankings.  Are the other two guys we are recruiting from dc assault 1 and done?

ku will get to recruit a new player when selby leaves.  they don't have to leave it open for the following 3 years.

who do you mean with the dca recruits, seagears and cook?  there is scanty evidence either is still being recruited, but if those are the players referenced, no.  neither is a guy that could leave after a year.  not that convinced seagears is all that good, actually.  rather have ar-t.

 :eek:

A month ago everyone here was convinced the guy was a scrub.  Is ar-11' still a lock for EMAW?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 06, 2010, 02:44:38 PM
A month ago everyone here was convinced the guy was a scrub.  Is ar-11' still a lock for EMAW?

i've always been an ar-t apologist.  don't lump me in with the rest of these candle to the winders.

don't think he's a lock. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on August 06, 2010, 09:17:27 PM
A month ago everyone here was convinced the guy was a scrub.  Is ar-11' still a lock for EMAW?

i've always been an ar-t apologist.  don't lump me in with the rest of these candle to the winders.

don't think he's a lock. 

Thoughts on ar-t going prep and classifying in 2012?

No evidence he will; just wondering if we want him and he wants EMAW, it may be his best chance if there are no defections?

 :dunno:

( :facepalm: <-- at myself for even thinking this.)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 06, 2010, 10:51:49 PM
Ray South's Corey Hilliard to Nubbland, decent get for Doc.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1110404
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 06, 2010, 11:38:15 PM
Looks like we're bascially out of the running for Boatright. Could have seen this one coming but still, PG options for this class are dwindling on  a daily basis.

"The offers have come from Miami (Fla.), Texas-El Paso (where Floyd landed), West Virginia, Iowa, Minnesota, DePaul, Baylor and Providence.

Tennessee, Kentucky and Wake Forest have shown interest, too, but have yet to offer."

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/sports/2571518,2_2_AU06_BOATRIGHT_S1-100806.article
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 06, 2010, 11:44:45 PM
A month ago everyone here was convinced the guy was a scrub.  Is ar-11' still a lock for EMAW?

i've always been an ar-t apologist.  don't lump me in with the rest of these candle to the winders.

don't think he's a lock.  

Thoughts on ar-t going prep and classifying in 2012?

No evidence he will; just wondering if we want him and he wants EMAW, it may be his best chance if there are no defections?

 :dunno:

( :facepalm: <-- at myself for even thinking this.)

we need a pg way more right now that later :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on August 06, 2010, 11:51:15 PM
Looks like we're bascially out of the running for Boatright. Could have seen this one coming but still, PG options for this class are dwindling on  a daily basis.

"The offers have come from Miami (Fla.), Texas-El Paso (where Floyd landed), West Virginia, Iowa, Minnesota, DePaul, Baylor and Providence.

Tennessee, Kentucky and Wake Forest have shown interest, too, but have yet to offer."

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/sports/2571518,2_2_AU06_BOATRIGHT_S1-100806.article

Underdog, with the signings this last week does it mean we are out of the running for Rodriguez and Cannen Cunningham? How many schollies do  we have left? Ive heard Cunningham is a beast.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 07, 2010, 12:07:30 AM
Honestly? I really don't know. I've heard we've offered both and that both are planning to visit Manhattan this fall.

Hoowever, it would be a major surprise to me if we took another big in this class. Hell, I was surprised we took 2 bigs in this class, so given our current scolly crunch(If you count O. Lawrence we're setting up to be 1 over for '11-'12) I'm thinking we pass on Cunningham.

Rodriguez? Well the "beat" writer in your sig pic is convinced it's a done deal. Again, we already appear to be oversigning(which is something our staff hasn't done before), but I haven't seen anything to lead to believe that we've stopped recruiting Rodriguez or that anyone else besides KSU is his leader. I have no clue how we'd make the #'s work, but if I had to bet on it today, I'd bet on Rodriguez ending up at KSU.

There you go, completely unfounded and sourceless recruiting analysis, it's what I do best.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on August 07, 2010, 12:31:32 AM
Honestly? I really don't know. I've heard we've offered both and that both are planning to visit Manhattan this fall.

Hoowever, it would be a major surprise to me if we took another big in this class. Hell, I was surprised we took 2 bigs in this class, so given our current scolly crunch(If you count O. Lawrence we're setting up to be 1 over for '11-'12) I'm thinking we pass on Cunningham.

Rodriguez? Well the "beat" writer in your sig pic is convinced it's a done deal. Again, we already appear to be oversigning(which is something our staff hasn't done before), but I haven't seen anything to lead to believe that we've stopped recruiting Rodriguez or that anyone else besides KSU is his leader. I have no clue how we'd make the #'s work, but if I had to bet on it today, I'd bet on Rodriguez ending up at KSU.

There you go, completely unfounded and sourceless recruiting analysis, it's what I do best.

Thx, glad were reaching into Texas.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 07, 2010, 12:39:10 AM
Why oversign with two bigs?  < nobody can answer this. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on August 07, 2010, 01:23:06 AM
(Freddy will go pro)staff counting on it, and Omari has to earn a scholarship that doesn't exist, so we will have three scholarships
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 07, 2010, 01:51:54 AM
(Freddy will go pro)staff counting on it
the "staff counting on it" part makes it seem like you have insidery info. PM if so.  Don't wan't want to dog you if you know something.  Doesn't make sense to me personally. He isn't getting drafted.  He's not a prospect 

and Omari has to earn a scholarship that doesn't exist, so we will have three scholarships
clearly, But when has Frank ever left someone out there like that.  Seems more likely he sends him packing (or someone(s) else).  we aren't getting this kid 2 years for free. also d-pete, who will probably not make it here, but it throws another cog into the mess. 

I dunno, I just want an impact combo guard.  Maybe ART is that.  I'm just scared he isn't (sys can steer me straight here).  Seems like we are throwing all of our eggs into our basket as hard as we can. 

:dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 07, 2010, 08:26:42 AM
imo, asprilla will be a very effective scorer in the big 12 (scared of his d though).  but 0% chance he goes pro.

despite bossi being meh on ar-t after seeing him play 5 minutes in houston, all the reasons to think he's a solid pg remain.  people that have seen him most, like him.  he's been the best player in his age group in pr since he was 14, etc.

he's a scoring pg.  mature body.  i think he could contribute as a freshman, maybe not "impact" though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 07, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
Why oversign with two bigs?  < nobody can answer this. 

Perhaps its likely that at least one of the guys we're after is a prep school placement. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on August 07, 2010, 11:05:42 AM
Art Alvarez had some quotes about Freddy going pro early when he was still at FIU.  Seems kinda like a kid that could have it in his mind to go pro early no matter what...damn the torpedoes.

Maybe he's saying that he needs a paycheck next year one way or another....Europe, etc.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 07, 2010, 11:15:15 AM
Art Alvarez had some quotes about Freddy going pro early when he was still at FIU.  Seems kinda like a kid that could have it in his mind to go pro early no matter what...damn the torpedoes.

Maybe he's saying that he needs a paycheck next year one way or another....Europe, etc.  :dunno:

Name one of Art's players that he didn't say would go pro before he played for us.  Reading too much into Art's player reviews is bad business. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 07, 2010, 11:29:28 AM
Art Alvarez had some quotes about Freddy going pro early when he was still at FIU.  Seems kinda like a kid that could have it in his mind to go pro early no matter what...damn the torpedoes.

Maybe he's saying that he needs a paycheck next year one way or another....Europe, etc.  :dunno:

Pete, god damnit
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 07, 2010, 01:00:20 PM
Seems kinda like a kid that could have it in his mind to go pro early no matter what...damn the torpedoes.

he could have been getting paid any of the last 4 years if he wanted to play in south america or europe.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 07, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
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Lee Summit North's (& mokan's) 6'9" David Kravish has received offers from California, Boston College, Colorado, Iowa, Wichita State, Creighton

'grats to him on the cal offer.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 09, 2010, 05:25:27 AM
I cant imagine what it would be like to have Deuce Bello.

 :love:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ2f9B7ZAkk&feature=related :love:

would this have been the Bill Walker we all expected? ( knee's)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 09, 2010, 12:04:29 PM
Don't want to harp on players we've apparently stopped recruiting, but Boatright has played well all Spring/Summer and he's cotinued to do that at Adidas Nations. Reagardless of  size, kid's a player, hope we're not missing out.

"Ryan Boatright, PG- Everybody knows that Boatright can score and that he's an electrifying athlete. He's certainly showed that. But, with lots of talent around him, he's proving to be a much, much better playmaker than he's been given credit for."

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1111056
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 09, 2010, 01:24:32 PM
Looks like Rodriguez still has us out in front:

Angel Rodriguez ’11, Dr. Krop (FL): Kansas State, Florida, North Carolina State, Miami, Alabama, and Louisville
                                Offers: Kansas State, Florida, North Carolina State, and Miami
                                Favorite: “K-State is the one I like the most for now.”

FWIW, Jack is also still mentioning KSU but I believe Northstar talked to him before Gip and Diaz came on board, just can't see us taking 3 bigs in this class, especially early when the whole "defections" thing hasn't been sorted out yet.

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/08/07/orlando-school-lists-class-of-2011-edition-part-two.aspx
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on August 11, 2010, 04:51:13 PM
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 11, 2010, 04:57:56 PM
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889

GPA:2.4
ACT:19
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 11, 2010, 05:04:02 PM
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889

based on 8-10 update from the nu writer.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on August 11, 2010, 05:04:13 PM
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889

GPA:2.4
ACT:19


This seems fine for eligibility.  Is it not?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 11, 2010, 05:05:40 PM
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889

GPA:2.4
ACT:19


This seems fine for eligibility.  Is it not?

Yeah, but he's a complete moron.  Not that I care as long as he is good at basketball.  Just pointing it out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 11, 2010, 05:10:24 PM
art alvarez, always gold.


good update by cassidy.  wish some bold sportswriter would confront martin on the numbers issue.

Quote
Of course, K-State is one of the leaders. We haven't really identified the rest of them yet, but K-State is one.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1112301
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jmlynch1 on August 11, 2010, 06:12:28 PM
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889

GPA:2.4
ACT:19
We've let in much worse non-athletes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 11, 2010, 07:57:53 PM
He's really not that good.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SuperG on August 12, 2010, 03:53:10 AM
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889

If Fred Hoibergs not offering why are we? Does Frank really thing he knows something that Fred Hoiberg does not? Fred Hoiberg has more scholarships than he does chest hairs. Something's not adding up. :confused:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 12, 2010, 07:58:54 AM
Corey Hilliard was just added to our offers list. Weird. http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Corey-Hilliard-111889

If Fred Hoibergs not offering why are we? Does Frank really thing he knows something that Fred Hoiberg does not? Fred Hoiberg has more scholarships than he does chest hairs. Something's not adding up. :confused:

Hoiberg has changed his recruiting strategy.  He is only recruiting really good swimmers now.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 12, 2010, 11:17:10 AM
Alright, a lot has been made about Rodriguez's lack of presence on the AAU circuit this Spring/Summer. I can't claim to know all the details why the Tropics didn't even really have 17U team this year, why he didn't get much run with Nike Team Florida, or why he eventually left NTF to play with a de facto version of his HS team? What we do know is that he received some less than stellar reviews from analysts and that Alvarez is saying he scores 30 a game every game, the truth probably lies somewhere in between. We can also look at how he fared during his HS season. Yeah, you could say the competition wasn't as good, and he's Shakey boy(figuratively, not literally) and all that, but take a look at the Florida Class 6A all state team(pasted and linked below). The first team is loaded and Rodriguez is right there on the list. I'm not going to lie, he wasn't my #1 pick among the potential guards we've been in contact with but he has definitely managed to impress a good deal of objective analysts with his play.

CLASS 6A

First team

Charles Hankerson, Coral Reef (Miami), 6-5, Sr.  - Ranked #138 by Rivals, signed with Alabama

Shane Larkin, Dr. Phillips (Orlando), 6-0, Jr. - Currently ranked #90 nationally in '11 by Rivals

Khyle Marshall, Flanagan (Pembroke Pines), 6-6, Sr.  - Ranked #118, signed with Butler

Austin Rivers, Winter Park, 6-3, Jr. - Top 5 player in '11

Angel Rodriguez, Dr. Krop (Miami), 5-11, Jr.

2nd team features 3* Michigan signee and 1 time KSU recruit Tim Hardaway Jr

http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2010-06-17/sports/fl-basketball-all-state-0617_1_blanche-ely-all-state-brenton-williams
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 12, 2010, 01:55:58 PM
What we do know is that he received some less than stellar reviews from analysts and that Alvarez is saying he scores 30 a game every game, the truth probably lies somewhere in between.

i assume alvarez is pretty close to the truth on the number.  he was just talking about the breakdown tourney, not everywhere (don't know where else he played with k-lightning, if anywhere).  i don't think there's any question that ar-t is the star on dr. krop's team and can shoot whenever he wants.  translate his hs stats to an aau situation and 30/game doesn't seem unreasonable.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 12, 2010, 02:12:35 PM
So are you buying the "J.J. Barea clone" line too?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 12, 2010, 02:15:50 PM
So are you buying the "J.J. Barea clone" line too?

i think it's a better style comparo than clemente.  and i think alvarez is wonderfully entertaining.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 12, 2010, 02:20:41 PM
if we got ar-t, we'd be getting a more skilled javi gonzalez.  is that good enough?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 12, 2010, 02:28:23 PM
if we got ar-t, we'd be getting a more skilled javi gonzalez.  is that good enough?

how much more skilled?  look at his 2009 stats too.  if he didn't turn the ball over at a ridiculous rate, he'd be pretty dece.

http://alturl.com/f2xcc
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 12, 2010, 02:30:09 PM
So are you buying the "J.J. Barea clone" line too?

i think it's a better style comparo than clemente.  and i think alvarez is wonderfully entertaining.

From what I know about Rodriguez(Thanks BP), I would agree with the comparison to Barea over Clemente.  Clemente's freakish speed, ability to get unearthly hot, and being more of a natural 2 guard(although I was impressed with the development of his playmaking ability), makes him a difficult comparo to anybody, IMO.

And yes, Art never fails to deliver.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 12, 2010, 02:33:08 PM
if we got ar-t, we'd be getting a more skilled javi gonzalez.  is that good enough?

how much more skilled?  look at his 2009 stats too.  if he didn't turn the ball over at a ridiculous rate, he'd be pretty dece.

http://alturl.com/f2xcc

can't really quantify skill.  but i'd say that ar-t is a better shooter and a better defender than javi at the same age.  i think ar-t is a TO machine just like his cousin.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on August 12, 2010, 02:35:25 PM
I'm not sure what's not to be excited about with this kid.  You can say that Alvarez is full of crap, fine.  But the fact is Billy Dunnavun has offered and that should say alot...pretty sure Billy's seen the kid play a few times given he's in his back yard.  I personally put some faith in his hs coach saying that ar-t has "it" and refuses to lose.  I want those kids...give me the 3 star that plays his heart out and you can have the 5 star Xavier Henry's that get all the press but couldn't give a crap about winning or losing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 12, 2010, 02:38:10 PM
I'm not sure what's not to be excited about with this kid.  You can say that Alvarez is full of crap, fine.  But the fact is Billy Dunnavun has offered and that should say alot...pretty sure Billy's seen the kid play a few times given he's in his back yard.  I personally put some faith in his hs coach saying that ar-t has "it" and refuses to lose.  I want those kids...give me the 3 star that plays his heart out and you can have the 5 star Xavier Henry's that get all the press but couldn't give a crap about winning or losing.

A) Yeah, I don't mind A-R-T
B) There are some rumblings that he may not have a full fledged Florida offer iirc.
C) Xavier Henry was/is very good.  Don't be a tard.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 12, 2010, 02:44:36 PM
I'm not sure what's not to be excited about with this kid.  You can say that Alvarez is full of crap, fine.  But the fact is Billy Dunnavun has offered and that should say alot...pretty sure Billy's seen the kid play a few times given he's in his back yard.  I personally put some faith in his hs coach saying that ar-t has "it" and refuses to lose.  I want those kids...give me the 3 star that plays his heart out and you can have the 5 star Xavier Henry's that get all the press but couldn't give a crap about winning or losing.

A) Yeah, I don't mind A-R-T
B) There are some rumblings that he may not have a full fledged Florida offer iirc.
C) Xavier Henry was/is very good.  Don't be a tard.

Yeah.  He "has" an offer but if he were to commit, UF wouldn't accept his commitment until they found out what a couple higher priority guards are doing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 12, 2010, 02:45:42 PM
Yeah, supposedly UF would only take Angel in the spring and then only if they missed on a couple of other guys.  And Xavier is real rough ridin' good.  You don't get drafted that high unless you are one hell of a player.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 12, 2010, 05:08:29 PM
I'm not sure what's not to be excited about with this kid.  You can say that Alvarez is full of crap, fine.  But the fact is Billy Dunnavun has offered and that should say alot...pretty sure Billy's seen the kid play a few times given he's in his back yard.  I personally put some faith in his hs coach saying that ar-t has "it" and refuses to lose.  I want those kids...give me the 3 star that plays his heart out and you can have the 5 star Xavier Henry's that get all the press but couldn't give a crap about winning or losing.
ray shipman
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on August 12, 2010, 09:08:21 PM
Yeah, supposedly UF would only take Angel in the spring and then only if they missed on a couple of other guys.  And Xavier is real fracking good.  You don't get drafted that high unless you are one hell of a player.

Mike Olowokandi, Kwame Brown, Stromile Swift, Darko Milicic...just sayin 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 12, 2010, 09:56:43 PM
They were all very good at whatever level they played before they got drafted.  And are you saying you wouldn't love to have anyone of those guys on the Cats?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 13, 2010, 08:34:58 AM
Angel is only 5'10???????????!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on August 13, 2010, 09:16:36 AM
Angel is only 5'10???????????!!!!!!!!!

In college basketball speak, doesn't that really mean something like 5'-8"?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 13, 2010, 04:01:16 PM
I asked the Scout recruiting guys Dave Telep and Evan Daniels if either Gipson or Diaz had a shot at making their post-summer Top 100 and how early they thought Gipson or Diaz could contribute at KSU, pasted below are their responses:

Daniels:
"Gipson won't be in it. I can't comment on Diaz because I haven't seen him in over year. Telep has though. Gipson is an undersized banger type prospect."

Telep:
"Don't see either of them in our Top 100 at this time. Diaz intrigues me as a prospect and will watch closely this year to see if there's a spike in production and he can get comfortable carrying a team at both ends. Gipson's solid. Not tall but wide. He's a rotation guy in Big 12. "

Then, I caught this positive blurb about Gipson from ESPN's Paul Binacardi, who had high praise for Gip right after he committed to us and appears to be a little higher on Gip than most other national analysts, besides Hardwood Elite of course.  :gocho:

"Biancardi: It wasn't surprising to me that Kansas State commit Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) played well at the Las Vegas Fab 48, but I was surprised with how effective and efficient he was on the blocks. Around the basket, he displayed strong hands to receive the pass with a soft touch to put it in the basket. The 6-7, 240-pounder knew his role, carved out space with his body, was productive on the glass and finished plays through contact."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5457620

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 13, 2010, 05:14:08 PM
great job, uw.  any chance you could get them to bite on an ar-t question?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 13, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
UW is the Meek to Sys's Robinette  :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on August 13, 2010, 05:33:43 PM
I asked the Scout recruiting guys Dave Telep and Evan Daniels if either Gipson or Diaz had a shot at making their post-summer Top 100 and how early they thought Gipson or Diaz could contribute at KSU, pasted below are their responses:

Daniels:
"Gipson won't be in it. I can't comment on Diaz because I haven't seen him in over year. Telep has though. Gipson is an undersized banger type prospect."

Telep:
"Don't see either of them in our Top 100 at this time. Diaz intrigues me as a prospect and will watch closely this year to see if there's a spike in production and he can get comfortable carrying a team at both ends. Gipson's solid. Not tall but wide. He's a rotation guy in Big 12. "


meh.  you asked the wrong guys.  scout rankings are an absolute joke.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 13, 2010, 05:49:21 PM
So is Gipson basically David Hoskins?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 13, 2010, 06:16:14 PM
So is Gipson basically David Hoskins?

no, not at all, he's an interior guy all the way.  more like ron anderson.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on August 13, 2010, 06:50:15 PM
So is Gipson basically David Hoskins?

no, not at all, he's an interior guy all the way.  more like ron anderson.

MEH!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on August 13, 2010, 07:39:36 PM
i'm talking myself into liking Gipson.  a comparison to R Anderson might be selling him short.  he looks like he could be a lot strong than RA while also possessing the same offensive skill set.  also see Gipson working a lot harder and smarter than RA on defense

wouldn't mind seeing a Hoskins-type flex from Gipson after he finishes through some strong contact.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Butt Fugly on August 13, 2010, 07:52:23 PM
would a smaller dexter pittman be a better comparo?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 13, 2010, 07:59:23 PM
I think he's a bit shorter than Ron
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on August 13, 2010, 10:06:48 PM
I think he's a bit shorter than Ron

Yeah, sorry to reiterate, but he sounds like a DH type player.  (which isn't a bad thing btw)  David Hoskins was an undersized forward which is exactly what Gipson is.  If Gipson can make open 15 footers and draw some fouls down low he'll be a dece player.  He isn't going to be able to dominate unless he has a GOOD jumpshot.  They'll put 6'9" players on him and lock him down if he isn't able to shoot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: leawoodcat on August 13, 2010, 10:17:56 PM
So is Gipson basically David Hoskins?

I think he seems similar to Marshall Moses.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 13, 2010, 11:00:44 PM
Yeah, sorry to reiterate, but he sounds like a DH type player.

no,  hoskins had legit wing skills (minus the j) and athleticism.  he was not a 4.


athletic anderson; short, skinny pittman; moses without the hops; etc.  you can come up with a thousand low post comparos.  as long as you stay in the post.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 13, 2010, 11:01:29 PM
Remember when I suggested we make Hoskins our full time PG?  :lol:

But srsly, he had decent guard skills aside from his j.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 13, 2010, 11:13:06 PM
Remember when I suggested we make Hoskins our full time PG?  :lol:

pretty ridic idea with wright on the same team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on August 13, 2010, 11:17:53 PM
Yeah, sorry to reiterate, but he sounds like a DH type player.

no,  hoskins had legit wing skills (minus the j) and athleticism.  he was not a 4.


athletic anderson; short, skinny pittman; moses without the hops; etc.  you can come up with a thousand low post comparos.  as long as you stay in the post.

Moses has hopps?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 13, 2010, 11:34:53 PM
Moses has hopps?

he was known as pretty bouncy in hs.  may have lost a little in bulking up for the big 12.  or maybe just doesn't get that many in-game opps.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on August 13, 2010, 11:54:51 PM
The only thing Hoksins did well was play the post. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on August 13, 2010, 11:58:09 PM
Hoskins was great from FT in.  Great miss match at that dist.  good handles for a post and a good first step for a post. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 14, 2010, 08:24:22 AM
Hoskins could drive the lane pretty well unless we were playing ku
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on August 14, 2010, 08:30:58 AM
I think he's a bit shorter than Ron

hopefully his width added to his supposed massive wingspan would make up for the height diffy
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 14, 2010, 12:14:19 PM
Guys, Sys has provided links to hundreds of recruitng articles, he obviously knows what he's talking about!!!  Moses has/had hops, he just doesn't show them!!!!  :runaway:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 14, 2010, 01:38:34 PM
great job, uw.  any chance you could get them to bite on an ar-t question?

I tried when they released their rankings back in May, no luck. I'll try again after the dust settles when the rankings are updated, which will hopefully happen within the next couple weeks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 14, 2010, 01:41:37 PM
meh.  you asked the wrong guys.  scout rankings are an absolute joke.

PLEASE ELABORATE.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 14, 2010, 01:43:45 PM
Guys, Sys has provided links to hundreds of recruitng articles, he obviously knows what he's talking about!!!  Moses has/had hops, he just doesn't show them!!!!  :runaway:

sigh.  you're such an idiot.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 14, 2010, 01:44:29 PM
I'll try again after the dust settles when the rankings are updated, which will hopefully happen within the next couple weeks.

should be fantastic.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 14, 2010, 01:45:24 PM
good luck UW
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: stunz on August 14, 2010, 01:55:48 PM
gipson = dejuan blair?

GRCOAT
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 14, 2010, 02:00:00 PM
Thanks for the well wishes fellas, it can be rough navigating that maelstrom of recruiting info known as the
Scout National Board at times  :users:, but with your support, I know I can hang in there.  :eye:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 14, 2010, 11:56:26 PM
Quote from: floridahoops
Adrian Diaz – The 7’0 Center for Gold Coast raised his stock the most of any player in the state. Out of Hialeah Miami Lakes, Diaz first impressed at the Rumble in the Bronx where national scouts from Hoop Scoop and Rivals liked his length and mobility. He stepped up his play at the Breakdown Hoops ...Festival, showcasing his passing ability and defensive presence in the lane. At Disney, he was aggressive offensively inside and finished above the rim the vast majority of the time. Diaz committed to Kansas State shortly after the event.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on August 14, 2010, 11:59:51 PM
what are the chances that he redshirts/prepschools?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 15, 2010, 04:55:20 PM
Jack names top 4.  Not shockingly EMAW doesn't make the cut

http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0815/four-schools-top-list-for-kadeem-jack/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 15, 2010, 05:02:06 PM
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Angel is a solid floor general. He can score it. I think he will end up at KState.

northstar
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 15, 2010, 07:10:04 PM
Jack names top 4.  Not shockingly EMAW doesn't make the cut

http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0815/four-schools-top-list-for-kadeem-jack/

Good find SD, that NYC/Rice/Gaucho connection has been good to us but this was pretty much inevitable given our recent commits, I'll definitely be interested to see what kind of player he develops into.

Wonder if Cunningham still plans on visiting Manhattan this fall, from the outside looking in, there simply doesn't appear to be any room for him right now.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 15, 2010, 07:18:48 PM
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Angel is a solid floor general. He can score it. I think he will end up at KState.

northstar
5* digging there sys.

Northstar has to be 1 of the most informative recruiting bloggers/tweeters out there.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 16, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
Weird.  Jordan Williams to North Texas.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1114274
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 16, 2010, 07:41:44 PM
Not sure the reported EMAW offer was legit(or the offers from Baylor, Marquette, OK St) but this kid still is a very intriguing prospect. Mean Green making noise on the 'cruiting trail!

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 16, 2010, 07:59:55 PM
It's been rumored for a while but now it's official, 5* wing DeAndre Daniels from SoCal has de-committed from Tecas

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1114254
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 16, 2010, 08:15:00 PM
It's been rumored for a while but now it's official, 5* wing DeAndre Daniels from SoCal has de-committed from Tecas

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1114254

saw that.  any word on where he's looking?  If he goes to KY I will LMAO. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on August 16, 2010, 08:19:04 PM
Not sure the reported EMAW offer was legit(or the offers from Baylor, Marquette, OK St) but this kid still is a very intriguing prospect. Mean Green making noise on the 'cruiting trail!



Really need The Greek to weigh in on this.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 16, 2010, 08:29:43 PM
It's been rumored for a while but now it's official, 5* wing DeAndre Daniels from SoCal has de-committed from Tecas

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1114254

saw that.  any word on where he's looking?  If he goes to KY I will LMAO. 

Nothing definite right now, but word is Daniels had reached out to Kentucky(yep), Memphis, UTenn, and ku PRIOR to his decommitment.  Thread on Rivals national board with all sorts of wild speculation, not so sure about facts, but still interesting stuff linked below.

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=103&mid=146090176&sid=910&tid=146090176&style=2&Override=1
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on August 16, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
Not sure the reported EMAW offer was legit(or the offers from Baylor, Marquette, OK St) but this kid still is a very intriguing prospect. Mean Green making noise on the 'cruiting trail!



Really need The Greek to weigh in on this.

We're happy.

Very happy.

The best part (http://meangreenblog.dentonrc.com/archives/2010/08/huge-get-for-unt-hoops.html):

Quote
Williams said that he is one of a few top players in the Dallas area talking about coming to UNT together.

"I think that I can be a good leader," Williams said. "I felt like if I committed, everyone else would jump on board."

Been meaning to stop by for a while since we announced our opener this year will be on the road at Kansas... Seeing he had an offer from you guys brought me over to check your recruit thread. I'll be back for more friendly shenanigans before we play each other in football.

In the meantime, I've been meaning to ask what the key to beating Kansas in basketball is so that I can share it with our coaching staff. I know nobody here has any idea how to do it... But can any of you link me to a Baylor basketball forum?

See you all again in November.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 16, 2010, 10:38:29 PM
Not sure if you're allowed to talk crap on a team that waxed your ass and ended your season...  It will be fun to do it to your football team this year.  Speaking of which-  Do you guys still have that high school coach?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on August 16, 2010, 11:04:37 PM
In the meantime, I've been meaning to ask what the key to beating Kansas in basketball is so that I can share it with our coaching staff. I know nobody here has any idea how to do it...

God damn you, Greek.  Our football streak against them lasted longer on a calendar basis!

:shakesfist:

Srsly though, they are going to fist eff you guys until your glass eye pops out.  Just lay there and relax and try to minimize the tearing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 16, 2010, 11:43:52 PM
dfw people hinting that another high-major type may commit to nt as well.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on August 17, 2010, 01:40:25 PM
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He's still is not 100 percent cleared to go. I should know something definite on him in the next week or so.

It's going to be close ... again. Don't pencil him on the 2011 roster just yet, though.

-Rob

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Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 17, 2010, 05:12:24 PM
More confirmation we're slowly backing away from Seagears:

"Seagears is considering Rutgers, DePaul, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Miami, George Mason and Central Florida, per Damon Handon of DC Assault."

David Cox, doin work

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/17/tyler-harris-has-a-top-10/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on August 17, 2010, 05:59:24 PM

In the meantime, I've been meaning to ask what the key to beating Kansas in basketball is so that I can share it with our coaching staff. I know nobody here has any idea how to do it...


Pretend it's the NCAA tournament and you're a shitty mid-major.



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 17, 2010, 06:00:46 PM

In the meantime, I've been meaning to ask what the key to beating Kansas in basketball is so that I can share it with our coaching staff. I know nobody here has any idea how to do it...


Pretend it's the NCAA tournament and you're a shitty mid-major.





Damn, they had all those cards lined up last year. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on August 17, 2010, 06:39:59 PM
Why the shazbot! did we waste a scholarship on Diaz?

 :flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 17, 2010, 07:29:50 PM
Diaz looks like he has some decent upside.  If anything, Gipson looks like a bigger reach.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 17, 2010, 07:46:32 PM
Diaz looks like he has some decent upside.  If anything, Gipson looks like a bigger reach.

if you go by impartial opinion providers, they're both big reaches.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 17, 2010, 07:56:11 PM
True.  But several of the articles on Diaz that I have read alluide to him looking good as a sophomore and being somewhat of an unknown commodity at this point.  Can't remember who it was but someone left the door open for Diaz to possibly make a move into his top 100/150.  Gipson seems to have a more tangible ability level, which is basically all my meant with my post.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on August 17, 2010, 11:16:37 PM
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Weekly Devon Peterson Update   Reply
He's still is not 100 percent cleared to go. I should know something definite on him in the next week or so.

It's going to be close ... again. Don't pencil him on the 2011 roster just yet, though.

-Rob

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Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on August 18, 2010, 08:41:41 AM
One tard reluctantly begins to see the light.

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OK, David Cox is starting to piss me off

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Now, this is in no way a Dalonte bash. I think Hill's doing great work and you won't hear me complain about any aspect of a Top 10 program that's winning consistently.

But if Cox convinces Seagears to go play for freakin' Rutgers and unproven Mike Rice, then even I have to wonder if he hasn't stolen AHCDH's D.C. mojo a little.

Probably a moot point, since all signs point to us holding our last schollie for Angel. Still chafes, though.

Link: Rutgers in great standing with DC Assault guards


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One tard doesn't.
 
 
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OK, David Cox is starting to piss me off Reply

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For obvious reasons, people on here are very hung up on the DC assault connections for Delonte.

But you don't make a guy the highest paid assistant in NCAA for a single pipeline. Too many other factors can cause that to lose value - e.g. other Assault coaches move to NCAA, traditional powers like Maryland & GTown make stronger pushes to keep local talent home, the Assault string together a couple weak years for high D1 prospects, etc.

So it should be noted that it's Delonte's broader AAU connections, more than just the Assault, that led to him getting his contract and labeled as the staff's king recruiter (not to shortchange anyone else).

While we needed the Assault connections to pull the program off the mat, it's obvious that the staff's overall recruiting strategy has become much broader in lieu of recent success.

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Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 18, 2010, 10:25:23 AM
aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 18, 2010, 02:16:36 PM
aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying

what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years.  the entire staff is overpaid.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SleepFighter on August 18, 2010, 02:19:56 PM
aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying

what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years.  the entire staff is overpaid.

Led by overachieving 3 stars and washed-up transfers.  Give 'em all a raise.  :contra-contrarian:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 18, 2010, 03:00:14 PM
aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying

what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years.  the entire staff is overpaid.
i didn't forget that.  my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible.  the whole rough ridin' staff is failing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on August 18, 2010, 04:21:21 PM
aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying

what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years.  the entire staff is overpaid.
i didn't forget that.  my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible.  the whole fracking staff is failing.

WTF is wrong with you people.  I'm far from a kool aid drinker and I appreciate constructive criticism of all things KSU athletics, but GMAFB.  "The whole staff is failing"?  I remember when Tony Mitchell comitted, I was thinking, meh, a 3 star kid but I'm guessing Frank is seeing something I don't.  A few months later hes one of the top recruits in the class.  I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 18, 2010, 04:39:47 PM
I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.

it'd be nicer if telep, bossi, meyer, et al. thought they'd be fantastic rather than some random fucktard.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: leawoodcat on August 18, 2010, 05:19:41 PM
I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.

it'd be nicer if telep, bossi, meyer, et al. thought they'd be fantastic rather than some random fracktard.

Are you calling Frank Martin a fracktard? ;-)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 18, 2010, 08:17:50 PM
I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.

it'd be nicer if telep, bossi, meyer, et al. thought they'd be fantastic rather than some random fracktard.
you summed up my thoughts nicely, thank you sys.  you saved me from having to interrupt watching big brother and alert this rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to the fact that hard workers with strong wills to succeed are called walk-ons.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 18, 2010, 08:26:18 PM
aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying

what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years.  the entire staff is overpaid.
i didn't forget that.  my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible.  the whole fracking staff is failing.

WTF is wrong with you people.  I'm far from a kool aid drinker and I appreciate constructive criticism of all things KSU athletics, but GMAFB.  "The whole staff is failing"?  I remember when Tony Mitchell comitted, I was thinking, meh, a 3 star kid but I'm guessing Frank is seeing something I don't.  A few months later hes one of the top recruits in the class.  I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.

and don't take too long before clicking on this link--->  http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5447.new#new

dumbass :flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on August 18, 2010, 09:10:32 PM
Yeah, supposedly UF would only take Angel in the spring and then only if they missed on a couple of other guys.  And Xavier is real fracking good.  You don't get drafted that high unless you are one hell of a player.

Mike Olowokandi, Kwame Brown, Stromile Swift, Darko Milicic...just sayin 

wow. you're an idiot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 18, 2010, 09:13:54 PM
Piss-  you normally seem to have a pretty level head on ya but...  You need to watch more college basketball if you think the only people who work hard and have strong wills to succeed are the walk-ons. Only a very select few can get by on talent alone. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on August 18, 2010, 09:19:50 PM
Only a very select few can get by on talent alone. 

I want them
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 18, 2010, 09:21:33 PM
Ideally, I want the very talented players who also work hard.  I would also like a 12 inch dong, while we're at it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on August 18, 2010, 09:29:51 PM
Its a powerespect notion that the 3 stars work harder than the 5 stars by virtue of being shittier.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on August 18, 2010, 09:45:09 PM
Ideally, I want the very talented players who also work hard.  I would also like a 12 inch dong, while we're at it.

Please list talented players who didn't work hard, preferably ones were were highly ranked recruits that never amounted to anything of substance.  Also, if you could find out which players(higher or lower ranked recruits) are usually on winning teams.  Thanks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 18, 2010, 10:25:13 PM
Ideally, I want the very talented players who also work hard. 
where did i say I didn't want all three?  fuktard came here saying that although we don't have the most talented recruits, that they try hard and that'll be good enough. 

i probably didn't make my point very well but the reality is that the 11 class looks sideways, no matter what way you look at it.  we aren't mixing > 100 talent with < 50 talent as we've done since Frank got here, and we aren't addressing our needs in the class.  maybe it will work out and frank has some secret blueprint about addressing that team's needs; i'm just commenting on the knowledge that we have.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 19, 2010, 03:50:49 AM
Hey, "nicname," for the answers to your questions feel free to reference the 2009-10 KU roster. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on August 19, 2010, 11:30:22 AM
Hey, "nicname," for the answers to your questions feel free to reference the 2009-10 KU roster. 

2009-10 KU was awesome at basketball and has been awesome for a long time.  Thanks for proving my point.  WTF is up with the quotation marks around my name?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 19, 2010, 01:01:19 PM
Yeah and that awesome team lost to a goddamn mid major in the 2nd round.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on August 19, 2010, 03:34:07 PM
Yeah and that awesome team lost to a goddamn mid major in the 2nd round.

When you always get great players you are always really good.  Eventually you are going to get beat by a lesser team, and that sucks, especially when it is in the NCAA tournament, but it doesn't mean your team isn't going to be one of the nation's best year in and year out.  The best teams don't always advance farthest in the field of 64, just most of the time. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on August 19, 2010, 03:41:10 PM
5 star hard working players = MJ, Kobe, Durant...there's not that many, it's what makes the few so special...why they are mentioned with the best.  If that's all you are going to accept as recruits, you're going to be very disappointed.   Hard working players = walk ons?  Ok.  Sure.  Great logic.  You are either talented or hard working?  You are either a 5 star or a walk on?  The point that I'm clearly not able to make is that I am very happy with a hard working 50-150 player.  Lots of kids have talent, few want to put in the effort.   I'd love to see top 50 hard workers, but there are prolly only a handful of those and we're not going to land one every year....and as opposed to others, I am ok with that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on August 19, 2010, 03:49:05 PM
aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying

what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years.  the entire staff is overpaid.
i didn't forget that.  my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible.  the whole fracking staff is failing.

WTF is wrong with you people.  I'm far from a kool aid drinker and I appreciate constructive criticism of all things KSU athletics, but GMAFB.  "The whole staff is failing"?  I remember when Tony Mitchell comitted, I was thinking, meh, a 3 star kid but I'm guessing Frank is seeing something I don't.  A few months later hes one of the top recruits in the class.  I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.

and don't take too long before clicking on this link--->  http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5447.new#new

dumbass :flush:
Very well played pc.  Excellent work!!  I should know better than to make a negative comment about our football teams first practice and then a positive comment about our 2011 bball recruiting class.  Thanks for putting me in my place...again excellent work.  Made me laugh!  I'm living up to my screen name!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 19, 2010, 05:16:28 PM
aside from the delonte and king recruiter references, i won't argue with what wichita_cat (aka Trim) is saying

what trim and you are both forgetting is that the staff just got commits from a couple of 2nd tier recruits coming off the best season in at least 20 years.  the entire staff is overpaid.
i didn't forget that.  my take away from Trim's post was don't hold Te'420k wholly responsible.  the whole fracking staff is failing.

WTF is wrong with you people.  I'm far from a kool aid drinker and I appreciate constructive criticism of all things KSU athletics, but GMAFB.  "The whole staff is failing"?  I remember when Tony Mitchell comitted, I was thinking, meh, a 3 star kid but I'm guessing Frank is seeing something I don't.  A few months later hes one of the top recruits in the class.  I think Gipson and Ar-t will be fantastic addtions....hard workers, strong will to succeed....they may not be NBA all stars but I think they'll be fantastic college players.

and don't take too long before clicking on this link--->  http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=5447.new#new

dumbass :flush:
Very well played pc.  Excellent work!!  I should know better than to make a negative comment about our football teams first practice and then a positive comment about our 2011 bball recruiting class.  Thanks for putting me in my place...again excellent work.  Made me laugh!  I'm living up to my screen name!
It's weird how things work two ways, isn't it?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 19, 2010, 05:21:20 PM
What are the odds we made this list? I'm thinking less than 10% but I'd be 1 happy cat if we did, scolly #'s be damned:

"(D'Angelo) Harrison, a four-star recruit who is ranked as the 61st-best overall prospect in the Class of 2011, has received scholarship offers from nearly 50 schools, but on Friday narrowed it down to nine finalists, Henderson said.

“We met as a family yesterday and cut the list down to nine (schools), and Oklahoma State is one of those nine,” Henderson said.

However, he did not want to reveal the other finalists. “I’m not looking at (the list) but I think we’re going to do something in the next few days to release that to the public. I can tell you that Oklahoma State is there. He likes the staff, he likes their style of play … they made the short list.”  - Franchize All Stars Coach Terrul Henderson

FWIW, this update is from Aug 7, but, to the best of my knowledge, the remaining 8 other finalists have still not yet been revealed.

http://oklahomastate.scout.com/2/990193.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 19, 2010, 05:23:47 PM
Quote
In the past I've stressed a lot about leaving guys off our T-100 list. This year we r scrambling to fill out the list. Just isn't deep.

sigh.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 19, 2010, 05:28:18 PM
Quote
In the past I've stressed a lot about leaving guys off our T-100 list. This year we r scrambling to fill out the list. Just isn't deep.

sigh.

god damnit
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: LickNeckey on August 19, 2010, 09:06:06 PM
"Please list talented players who didn't work hard, preferably ones were were highly ranked recruits that never amounted to anything of substance.  Also, if you could find out which players(higher or lower ranked recruits) are usually on winning teams.  Thanks."

Donnell Harvey
Jason Fraser
Marvin Stone
Von Wafer
Evan Burns
Ray Young
Chris Rodgers
Mike Jones
Abdou Diame
Derrick Caracter
Corey Benjamin
Lester Earl
Ronnie Fields
Vassil Evtimov
Ndubi Ebi
James Lang
Earl Smith
Sebastian Telfair
Gerald Green
Andray Blatche

Sorry pic
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on August 19, 2010, 09:48:52 PM
"Please list talented players who didn't work hard, preferably ones were were highly ranked recruits that never amounted to anything of substance.  Also, if you could find out which players(higher or lower ranked recruits) are usually on winning teams.  Thanks."

Donnell Harvey -
Jason Fraser -
Marvin Stone
Von Wafer
Evan Burns
Ray Young
Chris Rodgers
Mike Jones
Abdou Diame
Derrick Caracter
Corey Benjamin
Lester Earl
Ronnie Fields
Vassil Evtimov
Ndubi Ebi
James Lang
Earl Smith
Sebastian Telfair
Gerald Green
Andray Blatche

Sorry pic


Over half those guys were solid contributers, some of them were stars and a few were injury plagued.   Obviously there are some flops but overall I would recruit these guys time and again over their less-heralded brethren.  Also, many of these guys played on teams with a lot of talent you switch Donnell Harvey with Matt Siebrandt and Harvey is getting 15 and 10 as a freshman and Seabass is deep on the pine. 

Here is another challenge, go and find the 3* guys who never amounted to any thing.  I'll get my sun-dial.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: _33 on August 19, 2010, 09:59:24 PM
Quote
In the past I've stressed a lot about leaving guys off our T-100 list. This year we r scrambling to fill out the list. Just isn't deep.

sigh.

But everyone is getting inflated, sucky players, right?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 19, 2010, 10:16:41 PM
But everyone is getting inflated, sucky players, right?

don't know the shape of the talent distribution compared to an average year.  would be a good question to ask one of the nat'l guys.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on August 19, 2010, 11:17:22 PM
"Please list talented players who didn't work hard, preferably ones were were highly ranked recruits that never amounted to anything of substance.  Also, if you could find out which players(higher or lower ranked recruits) are usually on winning teams.  Thanks."

Donnell Harvey
Jason Fraser
Marvin Stone
Von Wafer
Evan Burns
Ray Young
Chris Rodgers
Mike Jones
Abdou Diame
Derrick Caracter
Corey Benjamin
Lester Earl
Ronnie Fields
Vassil Evtimov
Ndubi Ebi
James Lang
Earl Smith
Sebastian Telfair
Gerald Green
Andray Blatche

Sorry pic


bracey wright at iu
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on August 20, 2010, 12:18:17 AM
Bracey Wright.


http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/w/wrighbr02.html

are you being sarcastic? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on August 20, 2010, 01:05:59 PM
Bracey Wright.


http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/w/wrighbr02.html

are you being sarcastic? 

his statistics might be good but they are inflated because he was allowed to pound the ball in to the court until there were two seconds left and he would throw up a shot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 20, 2010, 01:06:31 PM
Hey, staff.  Great work.  At least we got Omari to really stick it to Lav.  :flush:

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/08/20/dangelo-harrison-planning-visits/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 20, 2010, 01:22:59 PM
Damn.

Angel or bust, peeps.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 20, 2010, 01:29:31 PM
You know what sucks ass?  Basically being done for 2011 and having this as the result.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 20, 2010, 01:33:17 PM
Damn.

Angel or bust, peeps.

maybe D'angelo can say high to Cauley when he's in Stillwater.  SUCK IT TRAVIS FORD!  WE GOT DIAZ!  :AA:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on August 23, 2010, 12:53:08 PM
Quote
@AdamZagoria: D`Angelo Harrison confirms his top 4 is Marquette, Okla State, Baylor & St John`s...will take unofficial to SJU this wknd or Monday

You have to be f*cking kidding me. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on August 23, 2010, 01:01:40 PM
Its a powerespect notion that the 3 stars work harder than the 5 stars by virtue of being shittier.
 :powerespect:
powerespect approved!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 23, 2010, 01:30:50 PM
If it makes anybody feel any better, Boatright is back to listing us again, even says we've offered, I'd really have to question is that reported offer is legit at this point but, hey, I guess we'll just have to wait it out. Update does state he does not have a definite time frame for his decision and he may wait until the Spring to sign. Only visit lined up at this time is to Providence in late September:

"West Virginia, UConn, Kansas State, Miami, UTEP, Wake Forest, Providence, DePaul, and Minnesota were the schools Boatright listed. He claims offers from all of them and noted that others are involved as well." 

http://providence.scout.com/2/994991.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on August 23, 2010, 01:34:43 PM
If it makes anybody feel any better, Boatright is back to listing us again, even says we've offered, I'd really have to question is that reported offer is legit at this point but, hey, I guess we'll just have to wait it out. Update does state he does not have a definite time frame for his decision and he may wait until the Spring to sign. Only visit lined up at this time is to Providence in late September:

"West Virginia, UConn, Kansas State, Miami, UTEP, Wake Forest, Providence, DePaul, and Minnesota were the schools Boatright listed. He claims offers from all of them and noted that others are involved as well." 

http://providence.scout.com/2/994991.html

This cant possibly be a recent picture right? guy needs some meat.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 23, 2010, 01:44:42 PM
I'm afraid it is, had the chance to watch him play (on TV) at the Adidas Nations event a couple weeks back, don't see how he could weigh more than 150 at this point. There's no question he's a high-level athlete who's capable of creating for himself or his teammates at any time, but, yes, he could stand to put some solid lbs on his frame, as long as he doesn't lose his explosiveness off the dribble, that's what makes him a Top 100 prospect.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: my troll name ... Koppe22 on August 23, 2010, 01:52:38 PM
I'm afraid it is, had the chance to watch him play (on TV) at the Adidas Nations event a couple weeks back, don't see how he could weigh more than 150 at this point. There's no question he's a high-level athlete who's capable of creating for himself or his teammates at any time, but, yes, he could stand to put some solid lbs on his frame, as long as he doesn't lose his explosiveness off the dribble, that's what makes him a Top 100 prospect.

Wow, I guess he can get by with that frame playing in Aurora, he would get pushed around like a rag doll in the city league or any of the Suburban League Confs, that frame wouldnt hold up. This kid must be lightning quick.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 23, 2010, 02:10:12 PM
This kid must be lightning quick.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 23, 2010, 03:37:28 PM
Quote
@AdamZagoria: D`Angelo Harrison confirms his top 4 is Marquette, Okla State, Baylor & St John`s...will take unofficial to SJU this wknd or Monday

You have to be f*cking kidding me. 

you could almost deduce from that list that recruiting aggressively works.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 24, 2010, 08:35:47 AM
IMO, this 1 doesn't hurt as bad as Harrison and was fairly predictable but just so everybody knows, Cunningham no longer has KSU on his list. Has top 5 of SMU, Boston College, Texas Tech, Purdue, and Arizona St.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1117166
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 24, 2010, 12:48:33 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2288

2 Top 150s!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 24, 2010, 12:55:36 PM
Kadeem Jack jumps to 33, impressive.

Boatright all the way up to 48, wouldn't mind seeing our interest in him increase but we'll see.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on August 24, 2010, 01:41:37 PM
Damn.

Angel or bust, peeps.


With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2010, 01:53:59 PM
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.

I don't think it's really a matter of us not getting him but if we want him
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 24, 2010, 01:58:18 PM
Yeah, unless we pussyfoot around too much, Florida strikes out on some of their bigger targets, and Donovan offers in the spring.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 24, 2010, 02:04:10 PM
Diaz moves into the Top 20 Cs from scout as well.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4487595
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 24, 2010, 02:16:35 PM
Good find _FAN, interesting that he's directly in front of Cunningham at 18, I always thought he(Cunningham) was more of a 4 maybe even a combo F, but still interesting to see how that played out.

FWIW, the last ranked C to make their Top 100 was 11th ranked Tyler Adams.

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=45&yr=2011
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 24, 2010, 03:04:54 PM
i almost wish they'd been 152 and 155.  having them in the top 150 makes the messageboarding harder.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 24, 2010, 03:20:19 PM
Sys really doesn't want to admit that Diaz might actually be decent.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on August 24, 2010, 04:02:50 PM
i almost wish they'd been 152 and 155.  having them in the top 150 makes the messageboarding harder.

At the end of the day you simply have to ask yourself "what the hell do they know about talent evaluation?"...let's be honest, they're probably as horrible at talent eval as Frank and co.  And furthermore, the only time their rankings are actually important is when they've ranked a player real high and we don't go after them.  Give me something I can get pissed off about!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on August 24, 2010, 04:38:32 PM
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.

I don't think it's really a matter of us not getting him but if we want him

If that's the case why don't we just go ahead and take angel and put the full court press on all these long shot studs. If we sign one, we say sorry Omari, if not we give him the left over scholly.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: leawoodcat on August 24, 2010, 05:03:13 PM
IMO, this 1 doesn't hurt as bad as Harrison and was fairly predictable but just so everybody knows, Cunningham no longer has KSU on his list. Has top 5 of SMU, Boston College, Texas Tech, Purdue, and Arizona St.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1117166

Or KSU no longer has him on their list?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 24, 2010, 05:27:06 PM
IMO, this 1 doesn't hurt as bad as Harrison and was fairly predictable but just so everybody knows, Cunningham no longer has KSU on his list. Has top 5 of SMU, Boston College, Texas Tech, Purdue, and Arizona St.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1117166

Or KSU no longer has him on their list?

Can't really claim to know the inner-workings of what went on there. Either our staff backed off or Cunningham saw he wasn't a top priority and decided to move on. Either of these scenarios are believable and predictable based on recent happenings in our recruiting.

6 of one or a half-dozen of the other, the end result is still the same.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 24, 2010, 05:38:01 PM
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.

I don't think it's really a matter of us not getting him but if we want him

If that's the case why don't we just go ahead and take angel and put the full court press on all these long shot studs. If we sign one, we say sorry Omari, if not we give him the left over scholly.

Because if we sign Angel we're already over the scholly limit.  Over by 2 if we give Omari one. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 24, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
If we can string Angel out long enough, Frank an co. Can get a look at what Sprads, Russell, Tav, etc can do at the point this year.  Maybe we won't need to take a pg this year.  If we do need to take one, we may have to show one of those kids the door and sign Angel.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 24, 2010, 06:27:26 PM
Can't really claim to know the inner-workings of what went on there. Either our staff backed off or Cunningham saw he wasn't a top priority and decided to move on. Either of these scenarios are believable and predictable based on recent happenings in our recruiting.

there's no rough ridin' way kstate would take 3 mid-level bigs in the worst year for bigs that telep can recall.  of course, there should have been no way they'd take 2.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 24, 2010, 06:31:21 PM
Can't really claim to know the inner-workings of what went on there. Either our staff backed off or Cunningham saw he wasn't a top priority and decided to move on. Either of these scenarios are believable and predictable based on recent happenings in our recruiting.

there's no fracking way kstate would take 3 mid-level bigs in the worst year for bigs that telep can recall.  of course, there should have been no way they'd take 2.

thoughts on the possibility of jhr II going prep for a year or something similar?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 24, 2010, 06:33:35 PM
Can't really claim to know the inner-workings of what went on there. Either our staff backed off or Cunningham saw he wasn't a top priority and decided to move on. Either of these scenarios are believable and predictable based on recent happenings in our recruiting.

there's no fracking way kstate would take 3 mid-level bigs in the worst year for bigs that telep can recall.  of course, there should have been no way they'd take 2.

OK, so we completely backed off Jack too, right?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 24, 2010, 06:34:06 PM
thoughts on the possibility of jhr II going prep for a year or something similar?

you mean like voluntarily, even though he'll qualify?  0%.


if you mean that he might not qualify, there's nothing out there either way.  i'd assume he's fine.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 24, 2010, 06:35:10 PM
OK, so we completely backed off Jack too, right?

yes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Berries and Cream on August 24, 2010, 09:08:33 PM
42, any news on D-Pete? Is that a no-go or still a chance? If he were to walk on alongside Omari and we take Angel that puts us over by 3, no?

Is it wrong to put faith in Frank having incredible Rex Ryan-like arrogance for 2010-11? He must just be assuming championship, Spri and Wally going pro, and Canadian Breeze heading up north to be closer to his kids, right?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 24, 2010, 10:14:56 PM
Quote
Angel is now friends with Kstate Men's Hoops.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on August 25, 2010, 01:42:31 AM
Dpete said he was gunna be playin wit kstate. He would b a walk on... Ill try to get some more on that
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on August 25, 2010, 03:37:32 AM
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.

I don't think it's really a matter of us not getting him but if we want him

If that's the case why don't we just go ahead and take angel and put the full court press on all these long shot studs. If we sign one, we say sorry Omari, if not we give him the left over scholly.

Because if we sign Angel we're already over the scholly limit.  Over by 2 if we give Omari one. 

Yeah, I counted wrong. wow.

so, we're either trying to land some stud with Angel, who loves us, as a backup plan, and Omari is out of luck unless we clear out two rosters spaces....

or, Angel doesn't love us so much, we are desperately offering every stud recruit that even gives us a passing smile in the hallway, but probably won't get one, and if we strike out on A-rod as well we are done for the year, sys kills himself, and we had better be preparing to bring in one  hell of an impact class next year, with offers to about 37 point guards.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 25, 2010, 07:31:38 AM
With all the selling points we have to give Angel it will seriously be incredibly disappointing if we don't get him.

I don't think it's really a matter of us not getting him but if we want him

If that's the case why don't we just go ahead and take angel and put the full court press on all these long shot studs. If we sign one, we say sorry Omari, if not we give him the left over scholly.

Because if we sign Angel we're already over the scholly limit.  Over by 2 if we give Omari one. 

Yeah, I counted wrong. wow.

so, we're either trying to land some stud with Angel, who loves us, as a backup plan, and Omari is out of luck unless we clear out two rosters spaces....

or, Angel doesn't love us so much, we are desperately offering every stud recruit that even gives us a passing smile in the hallway, but probably won't get one, and if we strike out on A-rod as well we are done for the year, sys kills himself, and we had better be preparing to bring in one  hell of an impact class next year, with offers to about 37 point guards.

No on both
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 25, 2010, 09:14:33 AM
this guy just doesn't get art alvarez.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on August 25, 2010, 10:01:02 AM
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just throw out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.

I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on August 25, 2010, 10:06:30 AM
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just through out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.

I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.

So you are the bad person who came up with the power towel!   :curse: :curse:

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on August 25, 2010, 10:24:57 AM
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just through out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.

I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.

So you are the bad person who came up with the power towel!   :curse: :curse:




Thanks for the feedback and your continued support of K-State Athletics. An open dialogue with our fan base is important to us, and we truly value your opinion. Go Cats!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 25, 2010, 01:09:16 PM
Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.

Did you help with the KSTATEO schedule poster?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on August 25, 2010, 07:47:16 PM
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just throw out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.

I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.

Our marketing department is scary bad now as well.  Tell us all a story like when you all sat around a table and decided to never spend a penny on professional advertising.



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 25, 2010, 10:34:19 PM
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Former Cardozo big man Ryan Rhoomes will prep at St Stanislaus College Prep in Mississippi, per his mother


rhoomes handler seemed to really like the kstate staff.  but i think he's no longer handling rhoomes, and we certainly don't need another big.


irregardless, rhoomes is now an '11.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The42Yardstick on August 25, 2010, 10:56:44 PM
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just throw out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.

I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.

Our marketing department is scary bad now as well.  Tell us all a story like when you all sat around a table and decided to never spend a penny on professional advertising.





Ugh. I just came from a school whose marketing department is so bad that students are now starting to go to games in spite of them. I was hoping that being at a BCS school would up the quality at least a bit :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The42Yardstick on August 25, 2010, 11:11:48 PM
God. I was gonna be like "well, at least we aren't these guys"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mE9Au3CwM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mE9Au3CwM)


Then I remembered the power towel :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on August 26, 2010, 07:50:23 AM
God. I was gonna be like "well, at least we aren't these guys"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mE9Au3CwM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mE9Au3CwM)


Then I remembered the power towel :users:
power towel = greatness
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on August 26, 2010, 02:02:17 PM
Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.

Did you help with the KSTATEO schedule poster?



No, that was our award winning graphic design staff.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on August 27, 2010, 02:44:35 PM
Sorry dudes I tend to do this thing where I just throw out Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) crap and see what pops.

I used to do the same thing when I was an athletic dept marketing intern, but maybe only a bit more serious. Problem was they kept using my ideas because our marketing dept was scary bad back then.

Our marketing department is scary bad now as well.  Tell us all a story like when you all sat around a table and decided to never spend a penny on professional advertising.



Our marketing is 10 times better now than it was then, though. We had such a small-time approach and mentality about everything we did it was sickening. That's still our biggest problem now but it's improving.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 27, 2010, 11:47:52 PM
Fun Boatright blurb:

 
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North Chicago High's boys basketball team will be playing the host East Aurora Tomcats in a one-day shootout in Aurora next January.

The Tomcats will have 5-foot-11 Ryan Boatright, who is the kid who verbally committed to playing college basketball at USC while he was in eighth grade ... a decision he's since reversed.

Last year, Boatright averaged 26.2 points, 5.8 rebounds, 5.1 assists and 3.3 steals for the state powerhouse.

You have to figure he'll put up 30-50 points playing against North Chicago's fun-and-gun attack.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on August 28, 2010, 02:50:01 AM
30-50?  Way to leave yourself some room.  Who wrote that article?  One of the "Pearls" gators?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 31, 2010, 01:24:45 PM
jack to rutgers.


http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/997472.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 31, 2010, 01:28:19 PM
jack to rutgers.


http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/997472.html

they're everything we used to be  :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on August 31, 2010, 06:23:19 PM
So.

Guys.


Who are we trying to sign so we don't have to sign Angel?

Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 31, 2010, 06:23:44 PM
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Quinn Cook may miss his senior year with a knee injury he sustained during the Boost Mobile Elite 24 game, The Washington Post reports.

damn.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 31, 2010, 06:25:28 PM
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.

if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 31, 2010, 06:27:33 PM
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.

if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?

ya, that was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on August 31, 2010, 06:59:08 PM
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.

if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?

ya, that was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

So we are waiting on him then?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 31, 2010, 07:01:42 PM
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.

if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?

ya, that was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

So we are waiting on him then?

were we waiting on freddy?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on August 31, 2010, 08:56:29 PM
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D'Angelo Harrison says he's down to 3 schools -- Marquette, Baylor and SJU http://tinyurl.com/39gkusc
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: _33 on August 31, 2010, 08:59:21 PM
We need some good players.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 31, 2010, 09:13:24 PM
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D'Angelo Harrison says he's down to 3 schools -- Marquette, Baylor and SJU http://tinyurl.com/39gkusc


If you're a glutton for punishment, you can see Harrison and BJ Young do their thing in the vid linked below. Non-Rivals subcribers, you're spared, but if you wanna know, Harrison's jumper from deep is as smooth as advertised and Young looks like a big time playground scorer.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/game-highlights-basketball/nychoops/Five-Star-Camp-Top-Performers-Day-1-727147
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 31, 2010, 09:25:48 PM
Quote
D'Angelo Harrison says he's down to 3 schools -- Marquette, Baylor and SJU http://tinyurl.com/39gkusc


glad to see osu eliminated.  even if it prob. just means they have nash locked up.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 31, 2010, 09:37:42 PM
That could very well be true, Pokes are also in final 2 for 4* wing Damien Leonard from SC, Ford will never commit the sin of lacking firepower from deep, only problem is will he ever get a big worth a turd to play for him?

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1120142
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 31, 2010, 09:43:21 PM
adorable that his mother posts these.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A6j36k3n0
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 01, 2010, 07:13:53 AM
adorable that his mother posts these.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A6j36k3n0

Yeah
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on September 01, 2010, 09:08:06 AM
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.

if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?

ya, that was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

So we are waiting on him then?

were we waiting on freddy?

The ART pattern is pretty clear...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EllToPay on September 01, 2010, 09:13:27 AM
adorable that his mother posts these.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0A6j36k3n0

:love:

fatima in training?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on September 01, 2010, 09:31:12 AM
Nothing against Angel, but it seems obvious that he is a back up plan.

if seems obvious by the way the staff stopped recruiting everyone but him after they signed the two mediocre bigs?

ya, that was Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

So we are waiting on him then?

were we waiting on freddy?

The ART pattern is pretty clear...

Fair enough.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on September 01, 2010, 11:43:12 PM
On the KMAN "Two Cents" podcast (http://www.1350kman.com/news/?p=5166), Matt Figger said the 2011 class was done. Does that mean Gipson and Diaz are it, or are we going to hear soon that Angel or some other guy is committing?

Regarding the staff's recruiting philosophy, Figger said that our Elite 8 appearance has opened a lot of recruiting doors in the Big 12 area and that we get a lot more respect now. BUT! Then he said that although fans want 5-star guys and McD's All-Americans, a lot of those guys "don't fit our mold" because they've "never had a work ethic."

So this seems to be their official recruiting philosophy. I'm just having a little trouble believing that all the really good players also happen to be lazy bums.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2010, 06:22:11 AM
Really breaks my heart that figs played that card.  :eek: :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 06:27:53 AM
Really breaks my heart that figs played that card.  :eek: :frown:

F*ck all of them.  They're all breaking my heart.  I hate this sh*t.  It's almost better to say you can't recruit to Manhattan.  Only problem is these jackasses have recruited to Manhattan and now just seem f*cking lazy since they got their payday.  F*ck.  Me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on September 02, 2010, 07:01:30 AM
I like there "right fit" recruiting philosophy.  I want to see some hustle out there not a bunch of premadonas who think they are to good to run suicides or to "pass the f'ing ball."  I'm sure those guys are out there but they go to Duke.

 :comehere:

 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2010, 07:47:18 AM
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.

would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2010, 09:29:03 AM
KU getting a Rivers visit
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Paul Moscow on September 02, 2010, 09:35:19 AM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 09:36:24 AM
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.

would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's.  

This is your best post ever.  :star: :star: :star: :star: :star:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 09:37:32 AM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2010, 09:40:49 AM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach

yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SleepFighter on September 02, 2010, 09:43:36 AM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach

yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history. 

We need them to hit rock bottom first.  Rehab doesn't work otherwise.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 02, 2010, 09:48:41 AM
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.

would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's. 

Billy Donovan, is that you?  BTW, nice work with all those 5 stars!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 02, 2010, 09:51:46 AM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach

yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history. 

I can roll with this  :bball:

Don't they have to be transfers though?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 09:52:56 AM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach

yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history. 

I can roll with this  :bball:

Don't they have to be transfers though?

beasley was a super-lazy head case.  Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank.  With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: chum1 on September 02, 2010, 10:10:38 AM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2010, 10:22:36 AM
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.

would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's. 

Billy Donovan, is that you?  BTW, nice work with all those 5 stars!

Thanks.  Always good to hear from well wishers.

Gotta tell you, those back-to-back NC's still feel REAL FRACKING GOOD!

Still poppin collars.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on September 02, 2010, 10:44:23 AM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.

He said we are done.   :bawl:

Lock er down.   :cry:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2010, 11:05:41 AM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.

He said we are done.   :bawl:

Lock er down.   :cry:

lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point  :lol:  What was he going to say?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 11:14:57 AM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.

He said we are done.   :bawl:

Lock er down.   :cry:

lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point  :lol:  What was he going to say?

"Recruit like you have 13 available"?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2010, 11:16:31 AM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.

He said we are done.   :bawl:

Lock er down.   :cry:

lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point  :lol:  What was he going to say?

"Recruit like you have 13 available"?  :dunno:

"We are going to boot at least one of these losers off the team after the season" :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 11:17:02 AM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.

He said we are done.   :bawl:

Lock er down.   :cry:

lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point  :lol:  What was he going to say?

"Recruit like you have 13 available"?  :dunno:

"We are going to boot at least one of these losers off the team after the season" :dunno:

"There are always uncertainties"  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2010, 11:17:31 AM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.

He said we are done.   :bawl:

Lock er down.   :cry:

lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point  :lol:  What was he going to say?

"Recruit like you have 13 available"?  :dunno:

"We are going to boot at least one of these losers off the team after the season" :dunno:

"There are always uncertainties"  :dunno:

"Martavious Irving sucks" :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 11:17:58 AM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.

He said we are done.   :bawl:

Lock er down.   :cry:

lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point  :lol:  What was he going to say?

"Recruit like you have 13 available"?  :dunno:

"We are going to boot at least one of these losers off the team after the season" :dunno:

"There are always uncertainties"  :dunno:

"Martavious Irving sucks" :dunno:

 I can live with that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on September 02, 2010, 11:19:10 AM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.

He said we are done.   :bawl:

Lock er down.   :cry:

lol at anyone that believes the "we are done" talking point  :lol:  What was he going to say?

"Recruit like you have 13 available"?  :dunno:

"We are going to boot at least one of these losers off the team after the season" :dunno:

"There are always uncertainties"  :dunno:

"Martavious Irving sucks" :dunno:

 I can live with that.

"There just aren't that many guys in this class that do things 'the right way'."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2010, 11:20:13 AM
Prob is that Tay "fits"

Bye, Nick....it's been real.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on September 02, 2010, 12:13:32 PM
Prob is that Tay "fits"

Bye, Nick....it's been real.

If Nick is as bad as he was last year, buh-bye.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 02, 2010, 12:17:35 PM
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.

would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's. 

Billy Donovan, is that you?  BTW, nice work with all those 5 stars!

Thanks.  Always good to hear from well wishers.

Gotta tell you, those back-to-back NC's still feel REAL FRACKING GOOD!

Still poppin collars.

Which of your NC players were 5-Star recruits, I can't remember?  

EPIC FAIL  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 02, 2010, 12:23:29 PM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach

yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history. 

I can roll with this  :bball:

Don't they have to be transfers though?

beasley was a super-lazy head case.  Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank.  With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).

To be fair, Beasley was pretty lazy when he played for Frank, he was just miles ahead of everyone else on the floor.  Dude didn't play 5 minutes of defense that entire season.  Even as a lazy head case in the NBA he's scoring 15ppg and half the time doesn't even get to play the 4th quarter.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 12:24:33 PM
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.

would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's.  

Billy Donovan, is that you?  BTW, nice work with all those 5 stars!

Thanks.  Always good to hear from well wishers.

Gotta tell you, those back-to-back NC's still feel REAL FRACKING GOOD!

Still poppin collars.

Which of your NC players were 5-Star recruits, I can't remember?  

EPIC FAIL  

Which ones on last year's team were?  Boynton and ????

Just STFU, sugar dick.  Your incredible stupidity is obviously an act.  No one is as genuinely stupid as you.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on September 02, 2010, 12:28:33 PM
Right after Figger told 5-star players they weren't wanted at our school, he began effusively praising Colon and Energy. Forget their statlines--they're amazingly hard workers, you see, and team leaders. You rabble can't see what they bring, but we can see it. Warm up your hard working two-stars that fit our mold, frackers!

 :barf::flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 02, 2010, 12:31:10 PM
I'm going against my better judgment and say the staff is sandbagging it.  :blindfold:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 12:31:44 PM
Right after Figger told 5-star players they weren't wanted at our school, he began effusively praising Colon and Energy. Forget their statlines--they're amazingly hard workers, you see, and team leaders. You rabble can't see what they bring, but we can see it. Warm up your hard working two-stars that fit our mold, frackers!

 :barf::flush:


JFC.  Let's just hire Jerrence Howard or something.  (only slightly kidding here)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2010, 01:08:33 PM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach

yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history. 

I can roll with this  :bball:

Don't they have to be transfers though?

beasley was a super-lazy head case.  Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank.  With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).

To be fair, Beasley was pretty lazy when he played for Frank, he was just miles ahead of everyone else on the floor.  Dude didn't play 5 minutes of defense that entire season.  Even as a lazy head case in the NBA he's scoring 15ppg and half the time doesn't even get to play the 4th quarter.

Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 01:10:57 PM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach

yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history. 

I can roll with this  :bball:

Don't they have to be transfers though?

beasley was a super-lazy head case.  Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank.  With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).

To be fair, Beasley was pretty lazy when he played for Frank, he was just miles ahead of everyone else on the floor.  Dude didn't play 5 minutes of defense that entire season.  Even as a lazy head case in the NBA he's scoring 15ppg and half the time doesn't even get to play the 4th quarter.

Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?

He did it in such a lacksadaisical manner, though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2010, 01:17:18 PM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach

yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history. 

I can roll with this  :bball:

Don't they have to be transfers though?

beasley was a super-lazy head case.  Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank.  With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).

To be fair, Beasley was pretty lazy when he played for Frank, he was just miles ahead of everyone else on the floor.  Dude didn't play 5 minutes of defense that entire season.  Even as a lazy head case in the NBA he's scoring 15ppg and half the time doesn't even get to play the 4th quarter.

Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?

He did it in such a lacksadaisical manner, though.

yeah, I bet if he tried hard he would have lead the country in rebounding and scoring by a wider margain than he did.  Slap the floor once in awhile you lazy POS.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 02, 2010, 01:36:29 PM
sign me up for the bitchy 5 stars that can win championships.

would rather have to overlook questionable work ethic than to not make the NCAA's.  

Billy Donovan, is that you?  BTW, nice work with all those 5 stars!

Thanks.  Always good to hear from well wishers.

Gotta tell you, those back-to-back NC's still feel REAL FRACKING GOOD!

Still poppin collars.

Which of your NC players were 5-Star recruits, I can't remember?  

EPIC FAIL  

Which ones on last year's team were?  Boynton and ????

Just STFU, sugar dick.  Your incredible stupidity is obviously an act.  No one is as genuinely stupid as you.

Pretty sure the ugly 6'5" point guard, and Chandler Parsons were 5-stars as well. 

You realize there's only 25 5-stars a year right?  Just a stoopid guy asking stoopid questions, you f*cking dipshit.  We seriously need a "goEMAW approved" logo for the basketball recruiting threads.  The expectations on here are borderline Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!). 


As long as we keep recruiting Rivals 150 players I'm pretty much cool with recruiting the way it is.  I'd like to see more in the top100 but whatever, don't think there that much of a difference between 50-100 and 100-150.  I'll admit the 2011 class is pretty underwhelming, but it's far from terrible.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 01:42:23 PM
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2012890
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 02, 2010, 01:44:53 PM
"Hey, this 5 star player doesn't even work that hard, imagine how good he's going to be after I whip him into shape."  :dunno:

Nonsense!  If they have a history of laziness, I can't work with them!

Sincerely,

Curtis Kelly's coach

yeah, if anything our staff should be recruiting the most talented and lazy players out there given their history. 

I can roll with this  :bball:

Don't they have to be transfers though?

beasley was a super-lazy head case.  Somehow he is again now that he's not playing for Frank.  With Frank, he was the greatest thing to ever happen to basketball (that I like).

To be fair, Beasley was pretty lazy when he played for Frank, he was just miles ahead of everyone else on the floor.  Dude didn't play 5 minutes of defense that entire season.  Even as a lazy head case in the NBA he's scoring 15ppg and half the time doesn't even get to play the 4th quarter.

Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?

So did Sam Perkins and Derrick Coleman 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 02, 2010, 01:46:20 PM
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2012890

You've got to be kidding

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Chandler-Parsons-46675;_ylt=Ak7YP_XiEb8VXsnZSQjl3T7asJB4
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 01:50:18 PM
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2012890

You've got to be kidding

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Chandler-Parsons-46675;_ylt=Ak7YP_XiEb8VXsnZSQjl3T7asJB4


Sugar dick, Rivals ranked him higher than anyone.  (By far). 

http://home.roadrunner.com/~rsci/RSCI_100_Final_2007.htm

He's less of a 5 star than Jason Bennett.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on September 02, 2010, 01:58:40 PM
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=2012890

You've got to be kidding

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Chandler-Parsons-46675;_ylt=Ak7YP_XiEb8VXsnZSQjl3T7asJB4


Sugar dick, Rivals ranked him higher than anyone.  (By far). 

http://home.roadrunner.com/~rsci/RSCI_100_Final_2007.htm

He's less of a 5 star than Jason Bennett.

I'm gonna stop f*cking up Sys's thread right now.  You're a dumbass, we're not arguing about whether one the three 5-star players on Florida last season really deserved to be a 5-star.   Also, anyone that doesn't think Beasley is, and always has been, lazy needs to get their f*cking head checked.

My point is made.  If we don't get one of the 25 five-star players every season its not the end of the world, and the staff isn't lazy.  We've had one awesome season in the last 21 years, and our campus is 95% white.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on September 02, 2010, 01:59:32 PM
O.k. so tell me what 5* freshmen on K-States team was a large contributer last year?  My point is that 5* have an entitlment issue and Frank will not put up with that.  I think Beasley is an exception to the rule.  I think he worked harder than most people give him credit because he was so good he made it look easy.  And I think he has a good set up with his mom moving with him to Manhattan she made sure he was putting his work in at least on the floor.

I will promise you Frank Martin can get more production and grit from a 3* that wants to be here and play than a 5* who is just using this as a stay over till the NBA.  He is building a program not a river of 1 and dones.  Don't get me wrong if we can get a Beasley every 5 years I would love to have them but that is not realistic at this stage, lets get 3-4 NCAA tournaments in a row a couple more E8's Final fours and then we will be looked at by the 5*.  KSU has still not done much on the national stage outside of one season.  Although it was a great season and next year should be just as good if not better and maybe then we will be getting more top 50 kids looking our way.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 02, 2010, 02:06:59 PM
Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?

So did Sam Perkins and Derrick Coleman  

Sam Perkins and Derrick Coleman were amazing college basketball players... WTF was your point with that?  That they weren't great NBA players?  WGAF.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 02, 2010, 02:15:58 PM
Didn't he lead the country in rebounding?

So did Sam Perkins and Derrick Coleman 

Sam Perkins and Derrick Coleman were amazing college basketball players... WTF was your point with that?  That they weren't great NBA players?  WGAF.

the nba thing doesn't even make a point. perkins and coleman were both good nba players with really long nba careers. maybe the point is that they are all about the same size/height and left handed? dunno though, that doesn't really seem like a point that someone would try to make.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 02, 2010, 02:21:22 PM
My point is made.  If we don't get one of the 25 five-star players every season its not the end of the world, and the staff isn't lazy.  We've had one awesome season in the last 21 years, and our campus is 95% white.

Loser's mentality.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on September 02, 2010, 02:50:58 PM
O.k. so tell me what 5* freshmen on K-States team was a large contributer last year?  My point is that 5* have an entitlment issue and Frank will not put up with that.  I think Beasley is an exception to the rule.  I think he worked harder than most people give him credit because he was so good he made it look easy.  And I think he has a good set up with his mom moving with him to Manhattan she made sure he was putting his work in at least on the floor.

I will promise you Frank Martin can get more production and grit from a 3* that wants to be here and play than a 5* who is just using this as a stay over till the NBA.  He is building a program not a river of 1 and dones.  Don't get me wrong if we can get a Beasley every 5 years I would love to have them but that is not realistic at this stage, lets get 3-4 NCAA tournaments in a row a couple more E8's Final fours and then we will be looked at by the 5*.  KSU has still not done much on the national stage outside of one season.  Although it was a great season and next year should be just as good if not better and maybe then we will be getting more top 50 kids looking our way.

Disagree. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WildcatNkilt on September 02, 2010, 02:57:50 PM
I will take a criminal, drugged-up 5* any day before a 3* of any type.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on September 02, 2010, 03:08:20 PM
Has anyone mentioned that Gipson is #70 (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player?id=78455&_slug_=thomas-gipson&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmens-college-basketball%2frecruiting%2fplayer%3fid%3d78455%26_slug_%3dthomas-gipson) on the ESPNU 100 list, or is this a new development?  :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 02, 2010, 03:31:05 PM
figger didn't mention an 11 pg? i guess you guys were way off on that one.

worse, he flatly stated that they were done recruiting for 2011.  assume/hope he was lying.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on September 02, 2010, 03:33:11 PM
Maybe we should get not-lazy but not-super-hard-working 4-stars?  :dunno:  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 02, 2010, 03:35:23 PM
Maybe we should get not-lazy but not-super-hard-working 4-stars?  :dunno:  


speaking for the fans, we will accept that compromise if the staff will.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on September 02, 2010, 03:35:51 PM
Sam Perkins (one of my favorite players of all time) won a National Title in 1982.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on September 02, 2010, 03:37:44 PM
Maybe we should get not-lazy but not-super-hard-working 4-stars?  :dunno: 


speaking for the fans, we will accept that compromise if the staff will.

Mods, e-mail Currie?  MODS?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on September 02, 2010, 05:27:48 PM
How useful are the user ratings on Rivals? Angel has an average user rating of 4.54 stars out of 5 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Angel-Rodriguez-101432), from 46 users. Are these just GPC tards, or might they be people with some insight?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: _33 on September 02, 2010, 05:36:24 PM
How useful are the user ratings on Rivals? Angel has an average user rating of 4.54 stars out of 5 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Angel-Rodriguez-101432), from 46 users. Are these just GPC tards, or might they be people with some insight?

Tards.  The actual star ranking is from the people with insight.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on September 02, 2010, 05:47:18 PM
Pretty sure I have never seen a player who wasn't granted like an additional star from the user rankings.  It's the fans doing the ranking and they tend to be a bit tard-y about them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 02, 2010, 07:58:45 PM
baylor posters on the nat'l board seem confident re. harrison.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on September 03, 2010, 08:29:04 AM
Maybe we should get not-lazy but not-super-hard-working 4-stars?  :dunno:  


speaking for the fans, we will accept that compromise if the staff will.

Works for me! lets do this.^^
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 03, 2010, 12:19:37 PM
espn rankings updated.  they like gipson more than others (71).  meh on diaz, hate ar-t.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on September 03, 2010, 03:15:27 PM
espn rankings updated.  they like gipson more than others (71).  meh on diaz, hate ar-t.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings

Not to be a stickler but it looks like Gipson is actually #70.  Woot!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on September 03, 2010, 03:28:58 PM
espn rankings updated.  they like gipson more than others (71).  meh on diaz, hate ar-t.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings

Not to be a stickler but it looks like Gipson is actually #70.  Woot!

Uh, yeah, I brought this up yesterday on this thread.

Has anyone mentioned that Gipson is #70 (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player?id=78455&_slug_=thomas-gipson&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmens-college-basketball%2frecruiting%2fplayer%3fid%3d78455%26_slug_%3dthomas-gipson) on the ESPNU 100 list, or is this a new development?  :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 03, 2010, 03:34:05 PM
Uh, yeah, I brought this up yesterday on this thread.

Has anyone mentioned that Gipson is #70 (http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player?id=78455&_slug_=thomas-gipson&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmens-college-basketball%2frecruiting%2fplayer%3fid%3d78455%26_slug_%3dthomas-gipson) on the ESPNU 100 list, or is this a new development?  :surprised:

sorry.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 05, 2010, 09:11:22 PM
young commits to arkansas.  be interesting if it holds if he doesn't qualify.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 08, 2010, 08:04:39 PM
christian kirk to missouri state.  not a kstate recruit, and presumably no one here cares.  posting it anyways (regardless).

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1123845
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 09, 2010, 01:03:51 AM
Quote
« Last Edit: September 08, 2010, 11:04:19 PM by Trim »

 :bang:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on September 09, 2010, 01:19:05 AM
Quote
« Last Edit: September 08, 2010, 11:04:19 PM by Trim »

 :bang:

:lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on September 09, 2010, 01:20:16 PM
Recap of Gold Coast's(Diaz's team) past AAU season and roster from Florida Hoops. Not shockingly, GC's director heaps praise on Diaz, but hey "under the radar" has been a pretty consistent theme regarding Diaz from objective analysts also.

Article basically states/implies Rodriguez ran with them at some point, which is certainly news to me, but no real revelations about his recruitment.

"Angel Rodriguez, 5’11 guard Dr. Krop – has Kansas State, Florida, Louisville, and Alabama showing a lot of interest."

http://www.floridahoops.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=915:travel-team-recap-gold-coast&catid=3:newsflash&Itemid=83
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 09, 2010, 01:29:36 PM
Article basically states/implies Rodriguez ran with them at some point, which is certainly news to me, but no real revelations about his recruitment.

i can't believe i wouldn't have seen that.  maybe for a single game, or maybe practiced with them or something.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on September 09, 2010, 05:00:55 PM
Indiana in to Hutch to see Rob Goff today, along with a host of others throughout this week, KSU NOT being among that list:

"Auburn, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Indiana, Ohio State, Wichita State and potentially Texas and Western Kentucky," said Knight.

Knight later mentioned that Houston and South Florida as schools also showing heavy interest and that Houston, Oklahoma, Wichita State, Iowa State and Oklahoma State were to the best of his recollection the schools that may join Indiana at this afternoon's workout."

I'm pretty pissed Eck didn't invite me to come watch the workout, we're tight ya know. Or not.

http://indiana.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1124108
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 09, 2010, 09:28:07 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/159343834.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284086447&Signature=0QX5Pc5edTqc2%2FN%2BIQw5eVzdNJA%3D)

good job by gipson's mother.  doing the kstate media's job for them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 09, 2010, 09:32:48 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/159343834.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284086447&Signature=0QX5Pc5edTqc2%2FN%2BIQw5eVzdNJA%3D)

good job by gipson's mother.  doing the kstate media's job for them.

She's really into it which is great
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: canadian_breeze on September 09, 2010, 09:37:08 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/159343834.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284086447&Signature=0QX5Pc5edTqc2%2FN%2BIQw5eVzdNJA%3D)

good job by gipson's mother.  doing the kstate media's job for them.

She's really into it which is great

how much bigger can this bro get??
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 09, 2010, 09:45:05 PM
She's really into it which is great

yeah, she's pretty fantastic.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 09, 2010, 11:02:16 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/159343834.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284086447&Signature=0QX5Pc5edTqc2%2FN%2BIQw5eVzdNJA%3D)

good job by gipson's mother.  doing the kstate media's job for them.

Pic isn't showing up for me. But i bet he looks adorable, along with Frank.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 09, 2010, 11:05:24 PM
Pic isn't showing up for me. But i bet he looks adorable, along with Frank.

yeah, it seems to have disappeared.

martin, figger and gipson were all attractive.  you can try the link:


http://twitpic.com/2mvahm
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 10, 2010, 03:59:33 PM
Quote
He's undersized but he goes hard as crap. Once Frank and Scott program his ass, he will be a load.

pastrana on gipson.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on September 10, 2010, 04:04:55 PM
Quote
He's undersized but he goes hard as crap. Once Frank and Scott program his ass, he will be a load.

pastrana on gipson.

  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 10, 2010, 04:09:02 PM
pastrana on gipson.

:dunno:


(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:uk6I2HXI1PSSuM:http://www.facebook.com/profile/pic.php?uid=AAAAAQAQOJTKlG8tmw51H5e-9GO1qgAAAAg1plCBomdQHA%2C%2C&t=1)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 11, 2010, 07:42:46 PM
Quote
Just spoke with ESPNU 100 PG Ryan Boatright he has had Prov and Miami(FL) in for home visits with WVU coming sunday and UCONN on the 20th.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 11, 2010, 08:35:11 PM
I'm sure we saw Angel.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 11, 2010, 09:41:22 PM
I'm sure we saw Angel.

probably not time yet.  he'll know kstate is recruiting him when alvarez wants him to.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EllToPay on September 13, 2010, 06:32:31 PM
don't have gpc acct, but a thread title is talking about jakarr sampson. sys, rusty?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 13, 2010, 06:34:56 PM
don't have gpc acct, but a thread title is talking about jakarr sampson. sys, rusty?

The mention was a mistake.  Should have said KU.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EllToPay on September 13, 2010, 06:38:42 PM
don't have gpc acct, but a thread title is talking about jakarr sampson. sys, rusty?

The mention was a mistake.  Should have said KU.

:frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on September 13, 2010, 07:52:34 PM
(http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/159343834.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1284086447&Signature=0QX5Pc5edTqc2%2FN%2BIQw5eVzdNJA%3D)

good job by gipson's mother.  doing the kstate media's job for them.

She's really into it which is great

can somebody get her to post here, fatima 2.0  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CrushNasty on September 13, 2010, 09:02:34 PM
don't have gpc acct, but a thread title is talking about jakarr sampson. sys, rusty?

The mention was a mistake.  Should have said KU.

 :blush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 14, 2010, 11:56:57 PM
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One of the top uncommitted players in the Class of 2011 is D’Angelo Harrison, a 6-foot-3 shooting guard who attends Dulles High School in Fort Bend (TX). Harrison had an impressive summer on the AAU scene with the Franchize All-Stars and is once again considering four colleges in the recruiting process.

Harrison told NBE earlier today that he will be visiting Baylor next weekend and confirmed that Oklahoma State is indeed back in the mix after he briefly removed the Cowboys from his list a couple weeks ago.

“Yes I am,” Harrison responded via text message when asked if he was considering Oklahoma State again.

Harrison told NBE that he will be visiting Baylor “next weekend” and that he had in home visits from “Marquette last Thursday and Oklahoma State today.”

St. John’s is the fourth team on his list. The Red Storm are expected in for a visit next week with Harrison and his family. While on the East Coast for the recent 5-Star NY Super Session, Harrison took an unofficial visit to St. John’s.

D’Angelo Harrison is one of the top uncommitted players in the class of 2011 and NBE will keep readers updates as his decision draws closer.

http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0915/dangelo-harrison-sets-baylor-visit/


have seen where he's supposed to be a marq lock and where he's supposed to be a baylor lock.  either way, supposedly his aau coach is in control.  sigh.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 15, 2010, 06:14:34 AM
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One of the top uncommitted players in the Class of 2011 is D’Angelo Harrison, a 6-foot-3 shooting guard who attends Dulles High School in Fort Bend (TX). Harrison had an impressive summer on the AAU scene with the Franchize All-Stars and is once again considering four colleges in the recruiting process.

Harrison told NBE earlier today that he will be visiting Baylor next weekend and confirmed that Oklahoma State is indeed back in the mix after he briefly removed the Cowboys from his list a couple weeks ago.

“Yes I am,” Harrison responded via text message when asked if he was considering Oklahoma State again.

Harrison told NBE that he will be visiting Baylor “next weekend” and that he had in home visits from “Marquette last Thursday and Oklahoma State today.”

St. John’s is the fourth team on his list. The Red Storm are expected in for a visit next week with Harrison and his family. While on the East Coast for the recent 5-Star NY Super Session, Harrison took an unofficial visit to St. John’s.

D’Angelo Harrison is one of the top uncommitted players in the class of 2011 and NBE will keep readers updates as his decision draws closer.

http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0915/dangelo-harrison-sets-baylor-visit/


have seen where he's supposed to be a marq lock and where he's supposed to be a baylor lock.  either way, supposedly his aau coach is in control.  sigh.

I don't want to hear any more about D'Angelo.  Too depressing.  Thanks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on September 15, 2010, 07:27:01 AM
Do the media and recruiting outlets have to obey the contact periods and volume limits?  Seems like it would get real rough ridin' annoying having them texting and calling, in addition to the coaches...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 15, 2010, 07:02:30 PM
jeffrey was touting this guy early in the summer.


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Galveston (Texas) Ball small forward Terran Petteway  has been in contact with the coaching staff at Texas Tech since the spring. The 2011 prospect is now preparing for his first trip to West Texas this weekend for an official visit to the program....

Aside from Texas Tech, Petteway holds offers from Bradley, Clemson, Colorado, Colorado State, Creighton, Houston, Mississippi, North Texas, Oregon, Penn State, Pepperdine, SMU, and UTEP.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1126717
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on September 16, 2010, 10:26:48 AM
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Is there a reason why this kid hasn't committed yet? All I've heard is how impressed he is with our program and how we are the frontrunners for him but it just seems like the longer this plays out, a school like Miami might steal him out from under us.

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Doesn't seem he has the skills for QB at D1 level. We'll be pretty set at RB, and WR.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on September 16, 2010, 12:22:39 PM
oh dear god. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on September 16, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
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    Doesn't seem he has the skills for QB at D1 level. We'll be pretty set at RB, and WR.



I think we are looking at playing him at point guard, but I wouldn't consider myself in "the know".
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on September 16, 2010, 02:58:41 PM
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MCMW!!!
http://blogs.tampabay.com/preps/2009/07/football-angel-rodriguez-faces-two-felony-counts-of-burglary.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on September 16, 2010, 03:16:13 PM
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/119713 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/119713)

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 16, 2010, 08:27:02 PM
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Thomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW

emaw from gipson's mother.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 16, 2010, 09:08:58 PM
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Thomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW

emaw from gipson's mother.

I can see Frank learned from Tony...go for the mom.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 16, 2010, 09:10:56 PM
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Thomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW

emaw from gipson's mother.

I can see Frank learned from Tony...go for the mom.

lol, very dissimilar situations/moms
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on September 16, 2010, 10:44:23 PM
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Thomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW

emaw from gipson's mother.

I can see Frank learned from Tony...go for the mom.

lol, very dissimilar situations/moms

Are you saying she didn't birth that [redacted]?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 06:45:33 AM
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Thomas Gipson's official visit to Kansas State-Friday, September 24th-EMAW

emaw from gipson's mother.

I can see Frank learned from Tony...go for the mom.

lol, very dissimilar situations/moms

Are you saying she didn't birth that [redacted]?

No, similar in that regard I guess
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 08:30:57 AM
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NBESports
  
Ryan Boatright is concentrating on five schools, but still open to other potential suitors as the NBE Top 100... http://fb.me/xKHrp7en

Don't suppose we are one of them but still curious. Anyone know?

followup tweet....

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NBESports
 
Ryan Boatright has had recent in-homes with Providence, WVU, Miami and UConn is expected Monday. Boatright...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on September 17, 2010, 08:32:44 AM
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NBESports
 
Ryan Boatright is concentrating on five schools, but still open to other potential suitors as the NBE Top 100... http://fb.me/xKHrp7en

Don't suppose we are one of them but still curious. Anyone know?
maybe he's concentrating on KSU 5 times :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 11:31:38 AM
KU makes Rivers' final 3

http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/09/17/austin-rivers-down-to-3-schools/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 11:53:22 AM
Not really relevant to us but....

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AdamZagoria
 
Quinn Cook will take an unofficial to Duke on Saturday
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 17, 2010, 12:02:53 PM
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robcassidy22
 
Word is #KState coaches Brad Underwood and Frank Martin will be in Wichita this wednesday to take in Perry Ellis' open gym session.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on September 17, 2010, 12:26:53 PM
quick, someone get this to Undies:

(http://2oldformaxim.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/duffel-bag-of-money.gif)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The Whale on September 17, 2010, 12:31:18 PM
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robcassidy22
 
Word is #KState coaches Brad Underwood and Frank Martin will be in Wichita this wednesday to take in Perry Ellis' open gym session.

Whatever happened to bbhoops?  Was he left behind at goEMAWCopyCat, or did he stop posting after the posts making fun of Ellis dropping in the rankings?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 17, 2010, 12:36:40 PM
Whatever happened to bbhoops?  Was he left behind at goEMAWCopyCat, or did he stop posting after the posts making fun of Ellis dropping in the rankings?

he seems to have reduced his internet time budget.  i've seen him post a very little bit on ku boards, but i haven't seen him post on ouhoops or any kstate board for a long time.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 17, 2010, 12:38:25 PM
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Ryan Boatright has had recent in-homes with Providence, WVU, Miami and UConn is expected Monday. Boatright...

yeah, kstate bowed out of that race a while back.  really don't think they are recruiting any '11s other than ar-t.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 18, 2010, 04:01:03 PM
jeffrey was touting this guy early in the summer.


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Galveston (Texas) Ball small forward Terran Petteway  has been in contact with the coaching staff at Texas Tech since the spring. The 2011 prospect is now preparing for his first trip to West Texas this weekend for an official visit to the program....

Aside from Texas Tech, Petteway holds offers from Bradley, Clemson, Colorado, Colorado State, Creighton, Houston, Mississippi, North Texas, Oregon, Penn State, Pepperdine, SMU, and UTEP.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1126717

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Terran Petteway 6'5 w (galveston ball hs) commits to Tx Tech!

'grats to jeffrey for calling him as a big 12 quality player.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 19, 2010, 01:48:57 PM
Josiah Turner to AZ
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 19, 2010, 03:01:36 PM
Josiah Turner to AZ

lol @ dumbstick.  he's so simultaneously really good and really bad at his hobby.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 19, 2010, 08:09:35 PM
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Robert Goff has committed to Oklahoma.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 19, 2010, 11:13:52 PM
wayne martin to central florida.

http://blog.northstarbball.com/2010/09/19/weekend-commitment-rundown.aspx
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 20, 2010, 03:07:49 PM
Quote from: omari lawrence
coach coming 2day.

a kstate coach, presumably.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 20, 2010, 03:08:29 PM
Quote from: omari lawrence
coach coming 2day.

a kstate coach, presumably.

coming where?  Cloud?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 20, 2010, 04:33:38 PM
coming where?  Cloud?

yeah, i'd imagine.  it's pretty well confirmed that he's there.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on September 20, 2010, 11:56:49 PM
coming where?  Cloud?

yeah, i'd imagine.  it's pretty well confirmed that he's there.

Is he playing?  If not, how do these jucos get around giving away one of their few schollies to us all the time?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 21, 2010, 12:17:27 AM
no idea if he's playing.  i imagine we'll find out fairly soon.  or 42 could ask.


if not, presumably the staff feels like giving up one of their out-of-state 'ships is worth it for help from the kstate staff w. in-state recruits.  or maybe they're just super emaw.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on September 21, 2010, 07:58:40 AM
no idea if he's playing.  i imagine we'll find out fairly soon.  or 42 could ask.


if not, presumably the staff feels like giving up one of their out-of-state 'ships is worth it for help from the kstate staff w. in-state recruits.  or maybe they're just super emaw.

Or Asprilla plan part 2.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on September 21, 2010, 08:03:02 AM
cloud is really cheap and there are like a million and one scholarships that ordinary (j rake type) people can get to go there. i doubt he's on bball scholarship. :twocents:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on September 21, 2010, 04:43:48 PM
Boatright update, only mentioning 4, Providence, W. Va., Miami, and UConn.

I think we're officially out of the running for him now(of course, that's about the 3rd time I've said that in the past 6 months, but with Rodriguez in the picture, he was probably a longshot to begin with).

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1129300
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 21, 2010, 05:37:28 PM
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Jerome Seagears of DC Assault has committed to Rutgers, multiple reports say.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 21, 2010, 05:40:32 PM
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Jerome Seagears of DC Assault has committed to Rutgers, multiple reports say.

 :blindfold:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on September 21, 2010, 08:56:23 PM
Pretty impressive haul for Rutgers and their new staff in their 1st class, 4 Top 150's and a 3*. David Cox doin work.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 22, 2010, 07:17:26 PM
Reaction when Cook ends up at KU? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on September 22, 2010, 09:17:28 PM
Reaction when Cook ends up at KU? 

 :comehere:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2010, 04:46:18 PM
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AdamZagoria
 
Duke, Carolina, Kansas, Villanova and UCLA all trying to get Quinn Cook to visit, but nothing set, sources say
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on September 23, 2010, 05:28:26 PM
Reaction when Cook ends up at KU? 

We'll burn my DC Assault hat in front of the Ernie Barrett statue before the KU game.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on September 23, 2010, 05:30:16 PM
Cook will be attending Late Night @ Phog.
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2010/sep/23/no-28-rated-hoops-player-visit-kansas/?mens_basketball

^may be old news, I just found out today
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on September 23, 2010, 05:38:31 PM
Pretty obvious Beaz is playing KU like a piano.  Let the Hawks use up tons of time and resources on Cook for as long as possible and then pull the rug out from underneath them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2010, 05:39:49 PM
No, KU missed on their PG and are now desperate.  Cook would salvage that for them.  Not an elite score but good enough.  Plus, would be good for the rivalry (KSU v. DCA not KSU v. KU who are not our rivals)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on September 23, 2010, 05:45:44 PM
Reaction when Cook ends up at KU? 

We'll burn my DC Assault hat in front of the Ernie Barrett statue before the KU game.

We should light it on fire and then put it in his hand.  We can burn mine too.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2010, 05:54:32 PM
We aren't involved but kind of a weird deal.  

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QCook323  
  
This is Sidiki Johnson. Im now reconsidering other schools!
Quinn Cook's twitter.  He's with Quinn right now so it's either Quinn messing with him or he's picked a weird way to announce it. :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2010, 06:14:05 PM
Well, Quinn's dad is still dead anyway

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Everybody that was Keith playing around!! Sidiki is still committed to Arizona!! RiP DAD!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 23, 2010, 06:21:10 PM
cook to ku is a longshot.  i'd put money on him never visiting.  he's elite though, as good as turner.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on September 23, 2010, 06:22:35 PM
cook to ku is a longshot.  i'd put money on him never visiting.  he's elite though, as good as turner.

Him to KU would be amazing message boarding.  Don't get in front of that sys. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on September 23, 2010, 06:50:17 PM
cook to ku is a longshot.  i'd put money on him never visiting.  he's elite though, as good as turner.

Him to KU would be amazing message boarding.  Don't get in front of that sys. 

if cook does go to KU, does that mean we get to snobbishly ask them what they are going to do when their DC Assault pipeline runs dry? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 23, 2010, 07:20:50 PM
if cook does go to KU, does that mean we get to snobbishly ask them what they are going to do when their DC Assault pipeline runs dry? 

do it now w. selby.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on September 23, 2010, 07:59:44 PM
The banner that ku will hang if they get cook to visit will be unlike any unfurled before it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on September 23, 2010, 08:06:50 PM
The banner that ku will hang if they get cook to visit will be unlike any unfurled before it.

Will be visible from Manhattan - both Manhattans.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on September 27, 2010, 05:16:31 PM
Top 150 for '11 from NBE, Gip and Diaz at 126 and 127 respectively:

126) Thomas Gipson – PF/6?7/Cedar Hill/TX (Kansas State): A slightly undersized big man who has a sound overall skill set and rebounds well
127) Adrian Diaz – PF/6?11/Miami-Hialeah Lakes/FL (Kansas State): Long, mobile, active big man has great height, rebounds well, knows how to play the game and can score the ball

http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0923/nbe-post-summer-class-of-2011-top-50/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 27, 2010, 05:49:08 PM
nice.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on September 27, 2010, 06:43:47 PM
Top 150 for '11 from NBE, Gip and Diaz at 126 and 127 respectively:

126) Thomas Gipson – PF/6?7/Cedar Hill/TX (Kansas State): A slightly undersized big man who has a sound overall skill set and rebounds well
127) Adrian Diaz – PF/6?11/Miami-Hialeah Lakes/FL (Kansas State): Long, mobile, active big man has great height, rebounds well, knows how to play the game and can score the ball
   :babywillie:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on September 28, 2010, 11:51:10 AM
Wooly!

"Marcos De Niza High School's 6-foot-8, 215-pound senior post T.J. Burke has made his decision. After looking over numerous options for himself, Burke has decided on a program from the Big West Conference, giving a verbal commitment to UC-Riverside and Head Coach Jim Wooldridge."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1132125
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on September 28, 2010, 11:54:19 AM
two wooly posts in a row
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on September 28, 2010, 12:00:40 PM
two wooly posts in a row

(http://www.psychologytoday.com/files/u115/FoolsGold.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 30, 2010, 12:23:52 AM
update on koppe22's favorite midmajor facebook big.

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At 6-foot-8 and 232 pounds, Duncanville's most valued prospect, Luke Mergerson  is sorting through his offers. Programs from Conference USA, the Colonial, and Northeast have official visits set for three consecutive weekends in October.

"I am going to Tulane October 8, North Carolina Wilmington October 15, and Mount St. Mary's October 22," said Mergerson.

In addition to the three visits that Mergerson has set, he has his eye on two Ivy League schools.

"Cornell and Brown are on my list, but I need to take the ACT," added Mergerson. "I would like to be a Sports Agent and both schools have great Law programs. They are also a place where I could go in and play as a freshman."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1133001


and on another mokan success story.

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"The highlight of the tour of the campus was the library, the University library, I'll never forget that," Kravish said. "When we were walking to it, Mohamed (Muqtar) pointed to this grassy area ahead of us, and said, 'Beneath this, five stories deep, is the library. I mean, I just, when we went in there, first of all, it felt like an old Greek building, like the Parthenon, with the pillars and everything. That was cool, and then I walk in and the ceiling is engraved, and it just looked so  cool. And then, we walked to the stairs, and it's this spiral staircase where you can look down all five floors. It was cool. That had to be the highlight of that tour. And they have more than just that library. They have a library for each specific area, like they have a science and whatever library, a business library and then they've got that main one."...

Coming all the way from Lee's Summit, Mo., Kravish saw some things he wasn't exactly familiar with. You know, trees, hills, things like that....

"I'm going to meet with my coaches again and my family, so we're going to talk through some things," Kravish said. "I'll have a lot better understanding and a lot better view of things then. I'm guessing a week to two weeks after my Colorado visit.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1133029
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on September 30, 2010, 11:06:09 AM
I feel ya Kravish.  I live in KC, MO, my sis lives in Lee's Summit, and I would give my left nut to be able to see a tree.  Gotsa to go all the way to Columbia to get a glimpse of one.   Hills are cool too, but I don't hold out a lot of hope of ever seeing one.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on September 30, 2010, 05:48:30 PM
Good podcast interview with Gipson. Talked about his recent visit. Seems like  :AA: was definitely a factor in his decision.

http://www.1350kman.com/news/?p=5406

edit: listened to it again, and Thomas sounds incredibly adorable.  :D
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on September 30, 2010, 09:34:53 PM
have seen where he's supposed to be a marq lock and where he's supposed to be a baylor lock.  either way, supposedly his aau coach is in control.  sigh.

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Texas Shooting Guard D'Angelo Harrison is "leaning heavily" towards St. John's, according to @BrandonTierney.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 01, 2010, 03:58:47 AM
Did you just quote yourself?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: fatty fat fat on October 01, 2010, 04:09:44 AM
Seems like  :AA: was definitely a factor in his decision.

http://www.1350kman.com/news/?p=5406

f*ck yeah. i'm telling you guys.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 01, 2010, 05:44:24 AM
have seen where he's supposed to be a marq lock and where he's supposed to be a baylor lock.  either way, supposedly his aau coach is in control.  sigh.

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Texas Shooting Guard D'Angelo Harrison is "leaning heavily" towards St. John's, according to @BrandonTierney.

 :dunno:

I hear he's thinking OSU.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 07, 2010, 09:53:49 PM
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California lands Lee's Summit North Power Forward David Kravish.

great choice by another successful mokan player.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jmlynch1 on October 09, 2010, 11:38:26 PM
Grumblings Cook is announcing soon. Before LNATP?!?!  :eek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 09, 2010, 11:46:55 PM
Grumblings Cook is announcing soon. Before LNATP?!?!  :eek:
who cares
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 10, 2010, 12:30:25 AM
Grumblings Cook is announcing soon. Before LNATP?!?!  :eek:

he tweeted something about committing soon.  duke fans jumped on it as a hint he may commit on his visit to late night visit to duke.

maybe; cook doesn't mind attention.  regardless of when, it'd be a fairly big surprise if he doesn't choose duke eventually - barring a last minute unc offer or duke getting miller or something like that 1st.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 11, 2010, 10:50:34 AM
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D'Angelo Harrison will announce on Thursday between St. John's, Baylor, Marquette & Oklahoma State.

from zagoria.

if true, that means he's skipping his scheduled visits to st. john's and marquette.  but, i think he already visited each unofficially.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on October 12, 2010, 01:42:13 PM
Per recent Scout update, Cook states he will definitely sign early, only 2 visits left are Duke and 'Nova, doesn't look like he'll make it to ku(tragedy), most signs pointing to him being a Dookie.

Harrison will be announcing on ESPNU Thursday(didn't know the exact time though), swears up and down he still has same final 4.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 13, 2010, 07:22:58 PM
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D'angelo Harrison to annouce his college decision thurs @ 3pm via ESPN feed. Yes, grandma confirmed!  She is asking for everyone to please respect the fact that D'angelo wants to have his day by releasing his own news first!  No spoilers.

Quote
Harrison To St John's
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 13, 2010, 09:23:24 PM
Quote
Cannen Cunningham to SMU.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 13, 2010, 09:40:25 PM
St Johns has a nice class. 4 4*'s
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 14, 2010, 12:54:41 PM
l'ville fans discover ar-t.


http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755&t=6523229

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755&t=6526590
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Lefty on October 14, 2010, 02:32:57 PM
"saw him play in one of the tourneys during the summer. cant remember who the other high profile players were involved in the game. but the guys calling the game said he was the best player on the floor. what i saw of him was speed and more speed got to the rim anytime he wanted. and was all over the floor on defense. thought at the time he would make somebody a nice player. Looks like it may be us"

Lousiville random dude talking about the Angel.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2010, 04:11:27 PM
What are the odds we lose him to Conf USA?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 14, 2010, 04:15:42 PM
Louisville is Big East, right?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2010, 04:21:12 PM
Louisville is Big East, right?

My bad, I had Memph on the brain.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 14, 2010, 04:22:51 PM
What are the odds we lose him to Conf USA?

about the same as samuels having been stealth kicked off the team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on October 14, 2010, 04:30:15 PM
 :woot:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 15, 2010, 02:23:45 PM
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We ranked Willie Reed in our Top 25 impact players in college & now he has left SLU-will he end up at Kansas State?

from kcprephoops.  i wouldn't think that he just randomly threw kstate's name out there.  and there was a guy on gpc saying he'd heard something about this too.

hard to imagine, but who knows?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 15, 2010, 03:42:47 PM
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We ranked Willie Reed in our Top 25 impact players in college & now he has left SLU-will he end up at Kansas State?

from kcprephoops.  i wouldn't think that he just randomly threw kstate's name out there.  and there was a guy on gpc saying he'd heard something about this too.

hard to imagine, but who knows?

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/xavier/2010/10/15/st-louis-players-in-hot-water/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on October 15, 2010, 04:07:39 PM
 :cheers:  http://www.nbadraft.net/players/willie-reed (http://www.nbadraft.net/players/willie-reed)

http://cincinnati.com/blogs/xavier/2010/10/15/st-louis-players-in-hot-water/ (http://cincinnati.com/blogs/xavier/2010/10/15/st-louis-players-in-hot-water/)

MCMW
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 15, 2010, 04:11:49 PM
guy on tigerboard has said he's heard the same in st. louis.

weird deal with the lack of 'ships.  great rebounder though.  ft% tards will hate him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 15, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
I hate 'em already.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on October 15, 2010, 06:32:35 PM
Do not want and do not need.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 15, 2010, 08:15:43 PM
An hour ago, TOS reported that he has scheduled a visit to MHK.  Can't imagine a talent like that would hurt the team... Not sure what it means in terms of available schollies and recruiting needs though.  We seem to continue being on the short list for transfers... Is that a pipeline?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: threadkiller on October 16, 2010, 12:03:03 AM
Do not want and do not need.
Yeah, who needs another athletic 6-8/9 4/5 with post moves who can rebound and defend the basket?  Especially ones who go for 20/15 against ND and 18/13 on Xavier.  It would really suck to put another guy like that on our roster in case Wally goes pro.  Plus, everybody knows Diaz and Gipson are going to show up on campus ready to dominate.  He'd probably never even see the court.  Worse yet, every guy we sign ends up clogging up our roster until he uses up his eligibility.  Why take a chance? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 16, 2010, 12:43:10 AM
It would really suck to put another guy like that on our roster in case Wally goes pro. 

barring unknown situs with other players or recruits, i think you have to assume that kstate only takes him if the assumption is that judge leaves this year.


unless, he's got some sort of omarilawrencian walkon wish, of course.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on October 16, 2010, 12:46:49 AM
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/article_f841bd84-9dde-5ed3-b92a-e5e102af552c.html

 :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 16, 2010, 12:48:36 AM
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/slu/article_f841bd84-9dde-5ed3-b92a-e5e102af552c.html

 :users:

damn!  they move fast.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 16, 2010, 12:50:29 AM
how are the powertards going to react to an alleged raper on our team? :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 16, 2010, 12:54:09 AM
how are the powertards going to react to an alleged raper on our team? :users:

they'll argue about it for a thread or two, then go out en masse and tell everyone they see that the chick was a slut and that snyder would never allow a mcmw on the team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 16, 2010, 07:40:07 AM
:surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on October 16, 2010, 07:55:52 AM
 :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on October 16, 2010, 08:28:26 AM
how are the powertards going to react to an alleged raper on our team? :users:

they'll argue about it for a thread or two, then go out en masse and tell everyone they see that the chick was a slut and that snyder would never allow a mcmw on the team.

Then they will wonder if he could play tight end
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on October 16, 2010, 02:16:47 PM
how are the powertards going to react to an alleged raper on our team? :users:


Thought they dropped the sexual assault charge against him? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: D-FRED-BROWN on October 16, 2010, 02:40:03 PM
either way, MCMW.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on October 16, 2010, 05:18:51 PM
Sys, I know we weren't in on this kid but I think I remember talking about him alittle.   Cezar Guerrero committed to Western Kentucky today which was a WTF moment for me.  Looked like he had offers from OU, KU , Indiana, CU among other schools.  Think he was over valued or what?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 16, 2010, 05:24:01 PM
Sys, I know we weren't in on this kid but I think I remember talking about him alittle.   Cezar Guerrero committed to Western Kentucky today which was a WTF moment for me.  Looked like he had offers from OU, KU , Indiana, CU among other schools.  Think he was over valued or what?

he never had offers that matched his ranking.  his ranking really never took off till late, either.  he finally convinced some of the rankings guys with a strong summer, but it seems like most coaches never bought in.

didn't have a ku offer.  may have had a legit ou offer, but he wasn't a priority for them.  don't know about his other schools.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 16, 2010, 05:38:22 PM
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/willie-reed
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on October 16, 2010, 05:54:59 PM
Is Reed super-athletic?

If so, I'm super-excited.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on October 16, 2010, 05:56:30 PM
The perfect player has been created and his name is Willie Reed.

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Strengths: Extremely athletic and long power forward … He has a very lanky and wiry frame … His springy legs allow him to get off the ground very quickly... before exploding … He has...good reflexes and shows the ability to catch … He runs the floor well,  Finishes strong at and above the rim … Has a soft touch …
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 16, 2010, 05:56:30 PM
Think they had him @ #23 in their 2011 mock draft.  Gonna assume he's pretty damn athletic.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on October 16, 2010, 05:59:21 PM
(http://www.missourinet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/3-25-SLU.JPG)

!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 16, 2010, 06:12:20 PM
ar-t update from cassidy.  in his own words, no alvarez filter.


http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1140091

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So far, I love this place," Rodriguez said during the school's basketball-launching event. "Honestly, for me, it's all about playing time and the type of game the team plays. I have to fit in with the system. That's pretty much it."

"They way they play the game is the way I play the game," Rodriguez said. "Coach Martin says I'm going to be a perfect for the system."

"I'm planning on taking all my visits," he said. "Then, I'll sit down and talk to my coaches. Then, I'll make a commitment. I'm planning on signing in the last signing period."

"All three of them are about even," he said on Friday. "I want to visit and see that everything I've been told is for real at all these schools. Then I'll make my decision."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on October 16, 2010, 06:57:47 PM
How does Reed's eligibility likely play out?  2 to play 1?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 16, 2010, 07:29:02 PM
How does Reed's eligibility likely play out?  2 to play 1?

3 to play 2.

interesting to see when he becomes eligible.  the way they appear to be rushing to enroll him makes it seem like they may be trying to get him eligible for the fall semester next year.  probably with eight week classes?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 16, 2010, 07:29:56 PM
Seems like he'd be 3/2.  Played 2 years @ SLU, didn't redshirt.  So, he can use his redshirt this year, and play the next 2 years.  But, he looks like a NBA guy, so he may only play one year for us.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on October 18, 2010, 12:59:10 PM
Interesting that while NBADraft.net has Reed projected going in the 1st round next Spring(probably not anymore given the recent news of his transfer), draftexpress refers him to as looking like a "4 year college player."

Draftnet lists him as the 7th best PF prospect eligible for this year's draft

http://www.nbadraft.net/2011-preview-top-pfs

It was just 1 game from last year's A-10 tourney, but it's a less glowing take on Reed's game from draftexpress

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Willie-Reed-5807/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on October 18, 2010, 04:43:11 PM
Boatright to West Virgina, I think Huggs really got a baller here.

http://www.wvillustrated.com/wvubasketball/story/id/385
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 19, 2010, 09:20:28 AM
Boatright to West Virgina, I think Huggs really got a baller here.

http://www.wvillustrated.com/wvubasketball/story/id/385
He is a baller indeed.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 19, 2010, 06:22:07 PM
ncstate ar-t update.

http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WildcatNation on October 19, 2010, 09:55:22 PM
ncstate ar-t update.

http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/
:bang: :goodbyecruelworld: :bawl:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on October 19, 2010, 10:03:10 PM
ncstate ar-t update.

http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/

Love the tactic of asking players about specific recruits.  At media day.  :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 19, 2010, 10:34:33 PM
Love the tactic of asking players about specific recruits.  At media day.  :lol:

ojeleye.   :fatty:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 19, 2010, 11:38:46 PM
I would put the full court press on Angel, but i cant find him!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 19, 2010, 11:42:14 PM
I would put the full court press on Angel, but i cant find him!
Found him.  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 19, 2010, 11:57:38 PM
Thomas Gipson swears up and down We have no more schollys in 2011............................. Why are we still recruiting Angel?! are we going to dump diaz or gipson? Or is Frank plan on a transfer/draft?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 20, 2010, 12:14:51 AM
Apparently, Reed is not concerned with whether or not he gets a scholarship.  So that's one less we'll be over.  Also, will the fact that he never enrolled @ SLU have any impact on our end?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 20, 2010, 12:15:42 AM
Never enrolled @ SLU this semester, that is.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 20, 2010, 12:25:03 AM
little confused.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 20, 2010, 01:48:52 AM
Thomas Gipson swears up and down We have no more schollys in 2011............................. Why are we still recruiting Angel?! are we going to dump diaz or gipson? Or is Frank plan on a transfer/draft?

there's a whole rough ridin' thread on this below.  stop 'tarding up the recruiting thread.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 20, 2010, 01:52:46 AM
Thomas Gipson swears up and down We have no more schollys in 2011............................. Why are we still recruiting Angel?! are we going to dump diaz or gipson? Or is Frank plan on a transfer/draft?

there's a whole effing thread on this below.  stop 'tarding up the recruiting thread.
Been  :bigtoke: apologies
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 20, 2010, 01:54:05 AM
Quote
Shane Larkin has committed to DePaul.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 20, 2010, 02:10:42 AM
Still think that stuff regarding Gibson, Diaz, Art, Reed, etc would belong in this thread.  The other one isn't pinned and will soon disapear.  May as well just lump all that type of stuff into the pinned thread for easier reference later...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 20, 2010, 10:04:11 AM
If Sidney Lowe doesn't get NC State back to the NCAA he's gone.   

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 21, 2010, 07:46:37 AM
not really KSU related, but Big 12 related...Anyone heard where this guy is gonna go?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-LeBryan-Nash-68656

Sounds like OSU had the inside track on him since his fatty half brother played there several years ago.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 21, 2010, 09:31:47 AM
OSU
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 21, 2010, 05:02:12 PM
Quincy Miller and Deuce Bello to Baylor as expected  :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: T42YS on October 21, 2010, 05:03:25 PM
Quincy Miller and Deuce Bello to Baylor as expected  :frown:

This should get sys a flight to Thailand with his Scott Drew Platinum Rewards Club Membership
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 08:05:38 PM
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3starmeyer Jerry Meyer
Ryan Boatright has opened his recruiment. UNLV, oklahoma and Uconn now.
:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 22, 2010, 09:10:59 PM
Quote
3starmeyer Jerry Meyer
Ryan Boatright has opened his recruiment. UNLV, oklahoma and Uconn now.
:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:


interesting.  there was some speculation that boatright was surprised that wv took another pg right after he committed.  i guess the speculation was right.


if reed makes it to kstate next semester, i wonder if diaz will experience similar surprise?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 09:23:54 PM
Quote
3starmeyer Jerry Meyer
Ryan Boatright has opened his recruiment. UNLV, oklahoma and Uconn now.
:surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:


interesting.  there was some speculation that boatright was surprised that wv took another pg right after he committed.  i guess the speculation was right.


if reed makes it to kstate next semester, i wonder if diaz will experience similar surprise?

seems un'frankish (though Frank seems to be getting the hang of it)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 22, 2010, 10:19:11 PM
Didn't Frank already do what Huggs did by bringing in Reed after Diaz had commited? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 22, 2010, 10:28:00 PM
Didn't Frank already do what Huggs did by bringing in Reed after Diaz had commited? 

A) shut up
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 23, 2010, 09:53:53 AM
Quote
EvanDanielscout Evan Daniels
Hearing Connecticut may be the early leader in the Ryan Boatright sweepstakes now that he's reopened his recruitment.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 26, 2010, 03:35:38 PM
rankin tweet.

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Just heard from Breakdown's Kenny Gillion, Standout Players from the Battle of the Rankings Camp were Angel Rodriguez, Adrian Diaz, Daniel Sapp, Malik Martin, Joel James, Demetrius Henry, Tim Dixon and Billydee Williams.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on October 26, 2010, 03:47:13 PM
rankin tweet.

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Just heard from Breakdown's Kenny Gillion, Standout Players from the Battle of the Rankings Camp were Angel Rodriguez, Adrian Diaz, Daniel Sapp, Malik Martin, Joel James, Demetrius Henry, Tim Dixon and Billydee Williams.

Damn that Florida Hoops subscription, just $4.95 a month!

http://www.floridahoops.com/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 26, 2010, 04:02:53 PM
Damn that Florida Hoops subscription, just $4.95 a month!

http://www.floridahoops.com/


no known kstate targets.  maybe vol 2?

http://www.floridahoopsrecruits.com/2010-breakdown-battle-for-the-rankings-recap-vol-1/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on October 26, 2010, 04:04:52 PM
Billydee Williams.


 :D
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on October 26, 2010, 04:12:09 PM
Damn that Florida Hoops subscription, just $4.95 a month!

http://www.floridahoops.com/


no known kstate targets.  maybe vol 2?

http://www.floridahoopsrecruits.com/2010-breakdown-battle-for-the-rankings-recap-vol-1/

 :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on October 27, 2010, 09:51:11 AM
Rodriguez update from Florida Hoops Recruits. I know a lot of recruits say it, but hadn't heard the "I want early PT" line from Rodriguez yet, also he must have had some affiliation with Gold Coast, as their director heaps praise on him.

http://www.floridahoopsrecruits.com/angel-rodriguez-has-trimmed-his-list-to-three/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 27, 2010, 09:52:30 AM
Rodriguez update from Florida Hoops Recruits. I know a lot of recruits say it, but hadn't heard the "I want early PT" line from Rodriguez yet, also he must have had some affiliation with Gold Coast, as their director heaps praise on him.

http://www.floridahoopsrecruits.com/angel-rodriguez-has-trimmed-his-list-to-three/

yeah, they keep claiming he played for them.  i suppose it must be true, but i can't think of when it would have been.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on October 27, 2010, 09:57:36 AM
Rodriguez update from Florida Hoops Recruits. I know a lot of recruits say it, but hadn't heard the "I want early PT" line from Rodriguez yet, also he must have had some affiliation with Gold Coast, as their director heaps praise on him.

http://www.floridahoopsrecruits.com/angel-rodriguez-has-trimmed-his-list-to-three/

yeah, they keep claiming he played for them.  i suppose it must be true, but i can't think of when it would have been.

It certainly did not appear to be this past spring and summer.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 27, 2010, 10:05:20 AM
Quote from:  that guy's description, basically
He's Michael Jordan with a better handle and more intangibles
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on October 27, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
Quote from:  that guy's description, basically
He's Michael Jordan with a better handle and more intangibles

His had more exclamation points.  He would prob be a pain in the ass to have a conversation with
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 27, 2010, 04:47:56 PM
If he wants to play early, NC State wouldnt be the pick. ( Ryan Harrow).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on October 27, 2010, 04:59:23 PM
If he wants to play early, NC State wouldnt be the pick. ( Ryan Harrow).

Cousin Javi might have to give up the starting PG spot, google "Future of NC St Basketball", Harrow can ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x-PPc5vwkQ
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on October 27, 2010, 05:02:10 PM
If he wants to play early, NC State wouldnt be the pick. ( Ryan Harrow).

Cousin Javi might have to give up the starting PG spot, google "Future of NC St Basketball", Harrow can ball.
I know who ryan harrow is. IMO he has the best handle's in his freshman class. BALLER!.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on October 27, 2010, 05:07:59 PM
If he wants to play early, NC State wouldnt be the pick. ( Ryan Harrow).

Cousin Javi might have to give up the starting PG spot, google "Future of NC St Basketball", Harrow can ball.
I know who ryan harrow is. IMO he has the best handle's in his freshman class. BALLER!.

You are correct, his handle is ridiculous, I'm looking forward to seeing him play for the Pack, and especially to see how he fares in the ACC.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 28, 2010, 04:29:50 PM
ar-t and diaz update from last weekend's camp.  prince-martin also mentioned.

http://breakdownmagazine.com/dailybreakdown/index.cfm?textID=2010
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on October 28, 2010, 04:33:49 PM
Didn't Art say that Angel would be announcing in Feb?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on October 28, 2010, 04:34:38 PM
ar-t and diaz update from last weekend's camp.  prince-martin also mentioned.

http://breakdownmagazine.com/dailybreakdown/index.cfm?textID=2010

sounds very encouraging. Very nice.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on October 28, 2010, 04:38:30 PM
Can you guys copy/paste that?  I don't have a membership.  TIA.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 28, 2010, 04:49:06 PM
Didn't Art say that Angel would be announcing in Feb?

i don't recall february, specifically, but ar-t plans to sign in the spring.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on October 28, 2010, 05:02:35 PM
That was very encouraging.  We are going to have to do something about Diaz's hair though.  Angel looks like an adorablman already  :love:

(http://breakdownmagazine.com/onlinemagazine/images/BFTR%20Angel%20R.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on October 28, 2010, 09:14:26 PM
i'm not sure i like sr-? as much as i like alvarez.

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Miami (Fla.) Dr. Krop three-star point guard Angel Rodriguez has set three official visits in an effort to potentially make his college selection in time for the early signing period. The 5-11, 180-pound point guard has already taken one of those visits and will see two more schools over the next two weekends.

Rodriguez took an official visit to Kansas State for the Wildcats' Madness in Manhattan event the weekend of Oct. 15, and is scheduled to see Louisville next.

"He's going tomorrow," confirmed Dr. Krop head coach Shakey Rodriguez. "He's going to visit NC State the following weekend and after all three visits are done then me and him are going to sit down, discuss it and see where he's at. I don't think there is any lean right now."

Rodriguez goes into this weekend's official visit with a pretty good feel for head coach Rick Pitino and his staff. He will be evaluating the opportunity for early playing time and checking out the campus and facilities at Louisville.

"He's going to watch them practice and go from there," Coach Rodriguez said. "Coach Pitino has spent a lot of time in Miami and Angel has had a chance to spend time with him.

"I don't think style of play is an issue because we play pretty much the same way. I know his style of play and I coach pretty much the same style. He's up-tempo, he presses and he expects players to play with a certain level of intensity. He knows how he's going to be in practice, so that's not going to be any shock to him. He most importantly wants to see that he has a chance to play."

Coach Rodriguez has a strong familiarity with Pitino and members of his staff. He has worked closely with Louisville's head man on the recruiting trail in years past.

"I've had two of my players play for him. Gimel Martinez and Allen Edwards were part of his Kentucky teams and had very good careers," Coach Rodriguez said. "Mark Lieberman was the head coach at Miami Pace and he's the assistant that is involved in his recruitment.

"I have absolutely no qualms about Coach Pitino. Of course, Kansas State is a good program too. Coach [Frank] Martin was my jayvee coach years ago, so there's familiarity there too. Then, I've been friends with Monte Towe at NC State for many, many years and they have Javi Gonzalez over there who is actually a cousin of Angel's. So, all three programs have some familiarity there."

N.C. State is the third program in contention for Rodriguez at this stage of the process. He will travel to see the Wolfpack next weekend, Nov. 5, after returning from Louisville. After those three trips are complete, Rodriguez and his coach will sit down to discuss what they have seen in the previous weeks.

"I asked him specifically to not get into anything until we see all three," Coach Rodriguez said. "At the end of that, if it doesn't stick out to you then we can go over some things, readdress these people if we have to and figure out whatever concerns each program has. At the end of the day, if he is not 100 percent sure, we'll go to the late signing period."

"It's just a matter of the kid being comfortable. His primary desire is to be in a program he feels he can fit in and be able to contribute."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1145342
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on October 29, 2010, 03:57:17 AM
That was very encouraging.  We are going to have to do something about Diaz's hair though.

I like Diaz's hair. What do you think of Beaz's new 'do? I think it looks pretty fantastic.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on November 01, 2010, 09:44:51 AM
diaz reminds me of bennett
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2010, 10:08:46 AM
Jeff Wafford
CardinalSports.com

The University of Louisville hosted point guard Angel Rodriguez this weekend on an official visit. The 5-11 player from Dr. Krop H.S. in Miami, Fla., got a chance to take in the Cardinals' opening scrimmage at their new arena and talk in-depth with UofL coach Rick Pitino about possibly playing for the Cardinals.

Cardinalsports.com was able to catch up with Rodriguez as he was working his way through the Atlanta airport to catch the final leg of his flight home to Miami. "Everything went perfect," Rodriguez said of his trip to UofL. "I really liked it up there. I wouldn't say there's a thing I didn't like. Honestly, I liked everything."

After arriving in Louisville Friday night, Rodriguez said he spent time throughout the weekend hanging out with the current players on the team, along with former UofL guard and graduate assistant coach Andre McGee.

On Sunday, Rodriguez took in the Cardinals' first contest at the brand new KFC Yum! Center, an exhibition game against Northern Kentucky University.

"What else can I say about the new building they have," Rodriguez said with a laugh. "It's just amazing knowing that it's pretty much an NBA facility. It's actually bigger than an NBA arena. It's nice knowing that 22,000 people can fit in there, and that they will actually be there for all of the games."

Another highlight of Rodriguez's trip was getting to talk to Pitino about where he fits into the recruiting plan.

"He was explaining to me how everything was, and how it would be if I go there," Rodriguez said of his meeting with Pitino. "He was telling me that I'm going to have a lot of playing time when I get there as a freshman. He also said he wasn't going to pressure me in my decision. He said he would give me my time to talk to my coach, that it was going to be up to me (when I want to decide)."

Rodriguez noted that the way he understood it, Pitino is looking for one final recruit to finalize his 2011 class, and would like Rodriquez to be that guy.

What's next for the player? "Next weekend I'm flying to North Carolina State," he said. "After that, I'm going to sit down with my high school coach and talk about it and make a decision."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on November 01, 2010, 10:23:28 AM
we'll get Angel when he decides to transfer after his soph year
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 01, 2010, 10:53:23 AM
It must be nice to have local recruiting coverage.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PurpleSleezyE on November 01, 2010, 12:00:10 PM
It must be nice to have local recruiting coverage.

Isn't this what this site is for? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on November 01, 2010, 01:47:13 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/22/1886478/top-hoops-prospects-to-participate.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2010, 01:51:37 PM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/22/1886478/top-hoops-prospects-to-participate.html

from comments:

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The Best player at the Ranking Expo was number 317, I'm not sure if any of the other scouts were watching, in my opinion he was the most balance and star quality player over the week.. Does anyone know who number 317 is? What school does he go to?

Coach Simms


prolly some nobody or one of this coach's kids but I like mystery stuff like this
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on November 01, 2010, 02:19:20 PM
i'm getting inexplicably nervous regarding ar-t.  sr-? should stay the eff out of recruiting and leave it to alvarez.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on November 01, 2010, 02:23:49 PM
http://www.floridahoopsrecruits.com/2010-breakdown-battle-for-the-rankings-recap-vol-2/

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2011 – Adrian Diaz, 7’0 Center, Miami Lakes High: Probably the most impressive post player of the weekend was Adrian Diaz. Diaz is skilled for his size, showing his ability to face up his defender and knock down shots. Adrian did not show off many post moves, but his high motor and ability to the run the floor certainly made up for that. Diaz was rewarded numerous times for running the floor by his guards and finished with thunderous dunks, keeping the crowd involved. Diaz must add size and strength to play early at Kansas State next year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 01, 2010, 02:38:52 PM
I hear ya sys, L'ville really appears to be gaining some ground here. PG was/is clearly a target for them and they have whiffed on all of their higher profile recruits and once Wroten committed to Wash., they really seemed to turn all of their attention to Rodriguez(and Shaky). I'm still not sold on NC St becasue of Harrow and Lewis being in their fold, but I guess weirder stuff has happened.

Maybe it's just a result of not having any other 'cruits to worry about right now, but if he really is a KSU lock, the Rodriguez camp is doing a good job of disguising it.

It is good to read the positive report on Diaz, especially about his motor and ability to run the floor.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 01, 2010, 02:54:26 PM
Quincy Miller and Deuce Bello to Baylor as expected  :frown:

didn't ever see this posted...

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It's just so ironic that the same day this news came out, Bello and Miller decided to pick Baylor of all schools. It's ironic because that same guy - Brian Clifton of D-One Sports - is Bello and Miller's AAU coach. And that same school that Dwon was hired by two years ago to lure in another top recruit who played for D-One Sports - Baylor - is getting Bello and Miller.

So does that mean the Cliftons still have a strong connection with Drew and Baylor, even though Dwon is now working for Wall in the NBA?
It seems that way. And there is nothing the NCAA can really do to stop them, unless the NCAA decides to investigate and find out the obvious truth behind all of this.

http://www.thehoopsreport.com/article.aspx?id=582
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2010, 06:15:11 AM
This could now go in '10. Jack left south Kent could early enroll.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on November 02, 2010, 08:01:07 AM
This could now go in '10. Jack left south Kent could early enroll.

that dude makes some strange choices.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 02, 2010, 08:02:37 AM
This could now go in '10. Jack left south Kent could early enroll.

that dude makes some strange choices.

Your life gets turned upside down when you old out for that junkyard qhatz offer that never comes
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on November 03, 2010, 08:03:54 AM
a reliable poster on the rivals nat'l board is saying cook has finally committed to duke.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on November 03, 2010, 04:37:03 PM
espn 100 update.  no kstate recruits on the list, diaz & gipson rated as 90s, ar-t rated an 89.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2011
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2306/class/2011
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 03, 2010, 04:40:41 PM
espn 100 update.  no kstate recruits on the list, diaz & gipson rated as 90s, ar-t rated an 89.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2011
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2306/class/2011

 :flush:  :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on November 03, 2010, 07:17:41 PM
could be top 150 w/ those ratings  :party:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 04, 2010, 08:38:47 AM
espn 100 update.  no kstate recruits on the list, diaz & gipson rated as 90s, ar-t rated an 89.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2011
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2306/class/2011

Thanks Telep, probably better to know the truth now than have Gip arrive on campus next year and have everybody wonder why he's not living up to expectations and not IMMEDIATELY averaging a double double.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Joker on November 04, 2010, 11:59:49 AM
espn 100 update.  no kstate recruits on the list, diaz & gipson rated as 90s, ar-t rated an 89.


http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2011
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/2306/class/2011

Thanks Telep, probably better to know the truth now than have Gip arrive on campus next year and have everybody wonder why he's not living up to expectations and not IMMEDIATELY averaging a double double.

Yes.  I really wish they would have done this with Wally.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 04, 2010, 12:58:39 PM
This could now go in '10. Jack left south Kent could early enroll.

Enrolling early at Rutgers and RS'ing sounds like his plan for now, but his pattern has been to change his mind about every other week, so we'll see.

http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/hoopshaven/2010/11/03/kadeem-jack-to-get-a-head-start-at-rutgers/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 04, 2010, 03:27:53 PM
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CBBRumorCentral Rick Pitino could be on the verge of bringing a sneaky good PG to #Louisville:  http://es.pn/92MOoF #cbb @dooley_jeff

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Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on November 04, 2010, 03:32:35 PM
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CBBRumorCentral Rick Pitino could be on the verge of bringing a sneaky good PG to #Louisville:  http://es.pn/92MOoF #cbb @dooley_jeff

 :users:

 :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 04, 2010, 04:16:49 PM
Art can suck one...maybe.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 04, 2010, 04:27:16 PM
It's offiicial, Cook to Duke

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5764646
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 04, 2010, 05:13:08 PM
Nothing earth shattering but nice Rodriguez blurb from ESPN regarding top unsigned PG prospects. I'd actually take it as a good sign for us if he decides to wait until spring to sign(ie our staff not wanting to oversign anymore than we already have).

Angel Rodriguez (Miami, Fla./Dr. Krop)
Player rank: NR | Position rank: 32 | Grade: 89 | Stars: 3
Height: 6-0 | Weight: 165 pounds | Evaluation
Considering
    
Why they want him: An under-the-radar prospect, Rodriguez is a tough and strong point guard. He competes on both ends of the floor and plays with great urgency. He has good, but not great, speed and quickness but can get to the basket because of his toughness. He is strong for his size and can finish with either hand.
Recruiting update: Reportedly Louisville, Kansas State and NC State are his top three schools and he will have visited all three by the end of the week. It remains to be seen if any of the three can impress him enough to have him sign during the November signing period.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5763236
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 05, 2010, 04:20:50 PM
Pretty nice get for NU

http://rivals.yahoo.com/baylor/basketball/recruiting/player-David-Rivers-99799
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 05, 2010, 09:43:12 PM
Good to see Doc digging into his Arky roots to land talent, just like the dude below

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=23&SPID=24&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=205015466&Q_SEASON=2010
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 05, 2010, 10:10:44 PM
Hoopy?!

November 2, 2010


Troy Phillips
TheMeanGreenReport.com

Had the original plan held up, Isiah Jones would be enrolled at Kansas State right now, getting ready for his freshman season in Division I basketball.

Instead, Jones is playing his last season of high school ball at a fifth-year prep school in the Houston area, and the recruiting process isn't quite over. While playing for Humble (Texas) Christian Life Academy at a tournament in Dallas in mid-October, combo guard Jones took an unofficial visit to North Texas to get a look around.

UNT has five players committed for its 2011 recruiting class, and multi-skilled Jones would fit well with the backcourt collection already assembled.

Nicknamed "Hoopy," Jones said he's planning official visits to Kansas State, Colorado, Oregon and St. John's, but his current offers include UNT, Texas-El Paso, Louisiana Tech, Louisiana-Lafayette, Illinois State, Indiana State and other mid-major programs.

"I don't ever big-time anybody," he said. "If a mid-major seems like right thing, I'm there. I want to make an impact, come in and play and make a program better, whoever it is."

In 2009, Jones left Class A Mounds Meridian near Carbondale, Ill., after his junior season to transfer to a school on Chicago's south side. He was a Kansas State target at the time and needed academic help, and prep school seemed a better option. Kansas State helped Jones make initial contact with Humble Christian Life, where he enrolled before the 2009-2010 school year.

Eventually, Jones needed a fifth year to qualify. He took the ACT test on Oct. 23 and is confident he did well. As for when he'll commit or sign, that's up in the air, but he said he likes UNT as much as anyone he's seen.

Jones was originally designated a Rivals 3-star prospect but currently is not ranked by Texashoops.com among shooting guards.

"Probably April," Jones said of his timetable. "I was going to go early, but I think more big schools will try to get in touch with me. Everybody knows I'm going to qualify now. I don't know if I'll go early or late, but I don't want to make the wrong decision."

That UNT plans to sign Dallas Kimball forward Jordan Williams this month is appealing, Jones said. Guards Trey Norris of South Grand Prairie (Texas), Chris Jones of Garland (Texas) Lakeview Centennial and Brandan Walton of Casper (Wyo.) College also expect to join the UNT stable. Jones' qualifying status is also pending an ACT test score. UNT also plans to sign Eastland (Texas) forward/center Forrest Robinson.

"I think that's a nice school," Jones said of UNT. "It's bigger than what I thought. I know they got a commit from Williams, and that's a big plus. I really like them, and the coaching staff seems cool. [Assistant coach] Shawn Forrest keeps it real. I like coaches who tell me what they like and what they expect. I don't want anybody to sugar-coat stuff. He's up front all the time."

If UNT can add Jones, it would add a big (almost 6-foot-4) guard who can play the point, the two or move up in a small-ball lineup. Last season, Jones averaged 18.7 points, seven assists and nearly four rebounds for Christian Life. As a junior, he averaged 17.8 points and made 92 3-pointers. He averaged 12.0 and 12.5 points, respectively, in his two seasons at Mounds Meridian and made 53 3-pointers as a freshman. His last year below the varsity level was middle school.

Coached by Carlos Wilson, Christian Life is one of the nation's latest powerhouse fifth-year prep programs. Jones said he has teammates who will sign with Texas Tech, Detroit, Lamar, Wisconsin-Green Bay, Florida International and Rutgers, and those are the ones he can remember.

On Nov. 15, Christian Life as a road game against Dallas God's Academy in an anticipated matchup of prep-school programs that traverse the country often. Christian Life, which is not a member of the Texas Association of Private and Parochial Schools, has played tournaments in Alaska, California, Rhode Island, Indiana, Las Vegas, Washington D.C., Mississippi, to name a few destinations, Jones said.

"I've tried to learn to be a better leader, how to run a team," he said of his time at CLA. "I want to show people I can be an all-around leader with all-around ability that can tell guys where to go. I'm not a guy who wants [the ball] all the time, but if it comes to me and I'm open, I'll take the shot. I just want to win."

Despite K-State's hand in getting him to CLA, Jones didn't sound overly optimistic that the Wildcats still want to sign him.

"It's open," he said. "They just got two more guards. I'm open."

Of the recruiting process, he said, "Once a school calls you once or twice, and they stop calling, you know they're not for real."

Jones said he's getting two calls a week from UNT's Forrest, and that the coach sounds "100-percent serious about what he's saying."

"He's not promising me time," Jones said. "I don't want schools to promise that. If I don't have to work for it, that's not a good place. If it's too easy, then the players around you aren't making you better. If I work for it, they'll put the ball in my hands and let me make my own decisions."

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on November 05, 2010, 10:37:20 PM
Wasn't that guy is "One Crazy Summer?"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 05, 2010, 10:42:52 PM
wut?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2010, 06:17:29 AM
Despite K-State's hand in getting him to CLA, Jones didn't sound overly optimistic that the Wildcats still want to sign him.

"It's open," he said. "They just got two more guards. I'm open."

Interpret this for me.  I mean, he's an '11.  He can't be talking 2 '11 guards..... unless the two are some combo of Devon, Omari and AR-T.  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on November 06, 2010, 10:04:37 AM
Doesn't look like he specified '11 or not.  I imagine he is talking about DPete and Omari. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2010, 05:13:58 PM
Good CU pickup as well

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/72530/spencer-dinwiddie
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on November 07, 2010, 12:21:01 PM
Adrian Diaz is in town this weekend.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on November 07, 2010, 12:21:45 PM
Adrian Diaz is in town this weekend.

yep
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on November 07, 2010, 02:39:43 PM
It's nice of the staff to yank his scholly face to face.  Very professional imo.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 08, 2010, 03:50:39 PM
Boatright to UConn. Fortunately for Ryan, the Huskies don't appear to be recruiting any other blue chip PG's in this class ... for the moment!  :ohno:

http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1019830.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on November 10, 2010, 11:58:51 AM
http://www.bustingthebracket.com/2010/11/angel-rodriguez-deciding-tonight.html?spref=tw
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Angel Rodriguez deciding tonight
The point guard garnering a lot of attention this week is Angel Rodriguez, a 5-foot-11 point guard from Florida.

Rodriguez is currently considering Kansas State, Louisville and North Carolina State, and is not sure whether he will sign in the next week or wait until the spring.

“We are going to decide tonight or first thing tomorrow morning,” Art Alvarez, Rodriguez’s AAU coach with the Miami Tropics, said.

Rodriguez attends Dr. Michael M. Krop (Fla.).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 12:00:34 PM
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Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 12:01:45 PM
Warm up the "WHERE'S THE SCHOLARSHIP GOING TO COME FROM!?  :ck: " thread mother fuckers
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on November 10, 2010, 12:11:40 PM
Is it just me, or is does the timing of this feel like bad news for us?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 12:15:06 PM
Is it just me, or is does the timing of this feel like bad news for us?

yeah, good point, frank dominates people in the late period.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on November 10, 2010, 12:19:18 PM
Is it just me, or is does the timing of this feel like bad news for us?

This one, not really.  We've known about Angel for a long time.  It sounds like Gipson has a signing deal scheduled for the day.  I'm probably more interested to see if Diaz signs today than anything honestly.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 12:20:23 PM
I'm probably more interested to see if Diaz signs today than anything honestly.

yep
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on November 10, 2010, 12:23:08 PM
collegiate_hoop: Fwd: Thomas Gipson signs his LOI to attend Kansas State today at his high school 4:15
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on November 10, 2010, 12:25:55 PM
Is it just me, or is does the timing of this feel like bad news for us?

yeah, good point, frank dominates people in the late period.

What I mean is that he had visited us, and left saying he would def sign in the late period.  Now, he finishes all his visits, and all of a sudden he is signing tonight.

I am sure there is a whole lot of Art happening here, and truthfully I am new enough in following this that I have no feel for Art, but it seems like something after us changed his mind.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on November 10, 2010, 12:26:59 PM
Is it just me, or is does the timing of this feel like bad news for us?

yeah, good point, frank dominates people in the late period.

What I mean is that he had visited us, and left saying he would def sign in the late period.  Now, he finishes all his visits, and all of a sudden he is signing tonight.

I am sure there is a whole lot of Art happening here, and truthfully I am new enough in following this that I have no feel for Art, but it seems like something after us changed his mind.

This doesn't surprise me at all from an Art recruit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 12:32:48 PM
A lot of people seem to think shA-rod has more of AR-T's ear than Art.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on November 10, 2010, 12:34:18 PM
A lot of people seem to think shA-rod has more of AR-T's ear than Art. 


Wouldn't surprise me from Shaky either.  I'm sure BOTH are in his ear, which may complicate things even more.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on November 10, 2010, 12:39:23 PM
http://breakdownmagazine.com/dailybreakdown/index.cfm?textID=2035
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 12:44:04 PM
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Breakdown: Most people consider Shane Larkin (DePaul), Daniel Sapp (Clemson), Andre Smith (Winthrop), and yourself the top four point guards in the Florida. You have faced all four of them. How do you compare to them and which one gives you the most trouble?

Angel Rodriguez: Like you said I have played all of them and to me the only one you can say is a true point guard out of all of them is Shane Larkin. They are all good players, but none of them gave me trouble when I played them.


 :cool:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dave Wooderson on November 10, 2010, 01:42:56 PM
collegiate_hoop: Fwd: Thomas Gipson signs his LOI to attend Kansas State today at his high school 4:15

 :pbj: :kstatriot: :pbj:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on November 10, 2010, 01:43:47 PM
GPC reporting that Gip's and Diaz's LOI have both arrived.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 10, 2010, 01:46:07 PM
SYS or Underdog......... Im sure this has already been covered, but if Diaz and Gipson both sign today....WHERE the F*CK is Angel's scholly coming from?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 01:46:51 PM
SYS or Underdog......... Im sure this has already been covered, but if Diaz and Gipson both sign today....WHERE the F*CK is Angel's scholly coming from?

RIGHT ON CUE!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on November 10, 2010, 01:49:35 PM
 :bawl:<-- Nick Russell   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 10, 2010, 01:52:03 PM
SYS or Underdog......... Im sure this has already been covered, but if Diaz and Gipson both sign today....WHERE the F*CK is Angel's scholly coming from?

RIGHT ON CUE!
YES!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 01:52:50 PM
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/stevedaveksu/untitled.jpg)

DON'T YOU GET TOO COMFORTABLE EITHER NICK!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: "storm"nut on November 10, 2010, 01:54:40 PM
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/stevedaveksu/untitled.jpg)

DON'T YOU GET TOO COMFORTABLE EITHER NICK!

Did Irvin just mess all over his fellow teammates? Use a towel man.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on November 10, 2010, 02:05:53 PM
The Brandersonation of Jamar will kill KSTATEO and probably me too.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 02:16:31 PM
The Brandersonation of Jamar will kill KSTATEO and probably me too.

yeah, it's gonna be rough. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 10, 2010, 02:47:33 PM
SYS or Underdog......... Im sure this has already been covered, but if Diaz and Gipson both sign today....WHERE the F*CK is Angel's scholly coming from?

Take your pick: Russell, Irving, Jamar  :horrorsurprise:, special needs Canadian and don't forget about Peterson and then there's Willie Reed and Real man OMoney potentially joining the fray.  That's just a lot of crap to sort through there with probably more surprises along the way. So really, your guess is as good as mine bro, but those guesses won't be proven 1 way or the other until next Spring at the earliest   :ck:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on November 10, 2010, 03:01:49 PM
all you rubes need to learn some spanish and go back and read the quote again.  "the decision" is whether or not to sign in the early period, not to pick a certain school. early or late, he signs with louisville anyway.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 03:05:07 PM
all you rubes need to learn some spanish and go back and read the quote again.  "the decision" is whether or not to sign in the early period, not to pick a certain school. early or late, he signs with louisville anyway.

damnit  :blush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MeatSauce on November 10, 2010, 04:10:38 PM
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Miami point guard Angel Rodiguez commits to Frank Martin and K-State

 :excited: :excited: :drool:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CHONGS on November 10, 2010, 04:12:32 PM
(http://www.pimp123.com/comments/Puerto-rico/Puerto-rico-108.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: K-ST8ED on November 10, 2010, 04:14:24 PM
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Miami point guard Angel Rodiguez commits to Frank Martin and K-State

 :excited: :excited: :drool:

Hell yes!!!!! :bball:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MeatSauce on November 10, 2010, 04:15:58 PM
austin_meek
Just got off the phone with Angel Rodriguez, who has committed to K-State. Plans to sign during the late period  Not sure when he'll sign.
.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 10, 2010, 04:17:19 PM
Does this mean that Jamar is going to have career ending eye surgery before next season?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on November 10, 2010, 04:23:11 PM
Does this mean that Jamar is going to have career ending eye surgery before next season?

I would rather trade a guard for a guard.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on November 10, 2010, 04:30:51 PM
 :surprised:
 :horrorsurprise:
 :ck:
 :woot:


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dave Wooderson on November 10, 2010, 04:33:24 PM
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Miami point guard Angel Rodiguez commits to Frank Martin and K-State

 :excited: :excited: :drool:

Hell yes!!!!! :bball:

 :frank: :love: :love: :love: :love: :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on November 10, 2010, 04:35:16 PM
Why aren't we getting any 4 or 5 star guys anymore? I'm a little tired of getting these mediocre 3 star players.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 10, 2010, 04:39:28 PM
Powercatpat, me to man... Me to....
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MeatSauce on November 10, 2010, 04:39:47 PM
he has the adorable part down

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx223/DobzTex/Angel_Rodriguez1.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 04:41:44 PM
eff YOU TREYSOLID!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on November 10, 2010, 04:43:15 PM
he has the adorable part down

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx223/DobzTex/Angel_Rodriguez1.jpg)

 :love:

the adorableness is starting to get unreal around the JYC's.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 04:45:10 PM
latin adorableness reaching all time levels (not you diaz)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on November 10, 2010, 04:47:07 PM
eff YOU TREYSOLID!

damnit   :blush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on November 10, 2010, 04:51:03 PM
he has the adorable part down

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx223/DobzTex/Angel_Rodriguez1.jpg)

 :love:

the adorableness is starting to get unreal around the JYC's.

Can he tunnel dance?  'tay isn't going to be here forever.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 10, 2010, 04:59:22 PM
Love the oversigning....love it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 05:38:11 PM
Quote
"This is a perfect example of a kid committing to a coach first over the school," Alvarez said. "Angel wants to play for Frank Martin, so he has committed to him. But he has not signed with K-State.
"Frank is a young, hot commodity. We just want to make sure that everything is going to stay the same in April. There's nothing to read into that. He talked to Frank about it, and he is more than comfortable about that."

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on November 10, 2010, 05:58:19 PM
Quote
"This is a perfect example of a kid committing to a coach first over the school," Alvarez said. "Angel wants to play for Frank Martin, so he has committed to him. But he has not signed with K-State.
"Frank is a young, hot commodity. We just want to make sure that everything is going to stay the same in April. There's nothing to read into that. He talked to Frank about it, and he is more than comfortable about that."

 :horrorsurprise:

So he hates us but loves Frank? :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on November 10, 2010, 05:59:22 PM
 :runaway:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 10, 2010, 06:00:32 PM
jfc Art.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheMadCatter on November 10, 2010, 06:00:49 PM
I assume most of the players hate K-State and just sign for Frank, but along the way they start to enjoy Manhattan.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The Whale on November 10, 2010, 06:22:16 PM
Translation: Did NOT enjoy Manhattan.  Prob. worried about catching an eye hernia from Jamar.  Can't say I blame him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: goldenticket on November 10, 2010, 06:32:13 PM
So he hates us but loves Frank? :frown:

i dont read it as he hates us. but it seems like they feel frank might leave after this year and if he does then angel would want to go where frank goes. i dont think frank is going anywhere so not really stressed over it
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 10, 2010, 06:37:18 PM
I think it actually just goes to the staff not wanting to officially oversign.  I mean, everyone knows what's up, but at least the math works if you ignore tons of stuff.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: goldenticket on November 10, 2010, 06:46:17 PM
good point
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on November 10, 2010, 07:05:20 PM
obvious ref. to martin taking a new job.  nothing to do with hating manhattan or kstate.  jfc, people.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Sugar Dick on November 10, 2010, 07:24:46 PM
obvious ref. to martin taking a new job.  nothing to do with hating manhattan or kstate.  jfc, people.

Frank is leaving for another job?!?!?!?!?!?!?  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

:runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway: :runaway:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on November 10, 2010, 07:44:11 PM
he has the adorable part down

(http://i758.photobucket.com/albums/xx223/DobzTex/Angel_Rodriguez1.jpg)

He looks like a latino version of Steve-o.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on November 10, 2010, 08:05:09 PM
omg he does
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 10, 2010, 08:25:23 PM
omg he does

completely.  I won't ever be able to look at him the same now.  Will expect him to pierce his butt or something....
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: _33 on November 10, 2010, 09:12:12 PM
LVille fans couldn't be happier about the decision.   :frown:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755&t=6682493
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 10, 2010, 09:26:53 PM
LVille fans couldn't be happier about the decision.   :frown:

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=17&f=2755&t=6682493

pfftt...thats how the losers always act.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on November 10, 2010, 10:11:40 PM

Quote
"This is a perfect example of a kid committing to a coach first over the school," Alvarez said. "Angel wants to play for Frank Martin, so he has committed to him. But he has not signed with K-State.
"Frank is a young, hot commodity. We just want to make sure that everything is going to stay the same in April. There's nothing to read into that. He talked to Frank about it, and he is more than comfortable about that."

This likely means after Haith finishes last in the ACC again this year (or somewhere close) that Angel will be playing for Frank at the U.  I hate saying this and I'm usually pretty positive but I just can't imagine this doesn't eventually happen, and likely sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on November 10, 2010, 10:15:24 PM
jesus art, take it easy on us. wtf
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on November 10, 2010, 10:23:54 PM
I am going to freak the eff out if Frank leaves us. Seriously makes me feel ill to even think about it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on November 11, 2010, 06:37:11 AM
Just when you thought art couldn't get any better...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 11, 2010, 07:07:34 AM
Don't worry after this season, we're not going to have to worry about Frank leaving . . . nobody is going to want him.



Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on November 11, 2010, 08:35:24 AM
Don't worry after this season, we're not going to have to worry about Frank leaving . . . nobody is going to want him.






 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Joker on November 11, 2010, 11:16:05 AM
Don't worry after this season, we're not going to have to worry about Frank leaving . . . nobody is going to want him.





My thoughts exactly.  If this season plays out like the media is projecting it to, Frank's stock will never be higher.  IF he's going to leave, I would think it would be after this season or not at all.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on November 11, 2010, 11:38:25 AM
Don't worry after this season, we're not going to have to worry about Frank leaving . . . nobody is going to want him.

Dax, the perpetual optimist.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on November 11, 2010, 11:51:28 AM
Don't worry after this season, we're not going to have to worry about Frank leaving . . . nobody is going to want him.

Dax, the perpetual optimist.

The K-State movie is always a cautionary tail when someone reaches deity status in 3 years . . . stay tuned.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: j-von on November 11, 2010, 11:53:48 AM
Just found this NC State article on Angel while googling.  Sorry if it's been posted.

Diamond In The Rough (http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on November 11, 2010, 12:58:33 PM
Just found this NC State article on Angel while googling.  Sorry if it's been posted.

Diamond In The Rough (http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/)

I only hope Angel is better than the last PG we beat out NC State for...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MeatSauce on November 11, 2010, 01:03:14 PM
Just found this NC State article on Angel while googling.  Sorry if it's been posted.

Diamond In The Rough (http://packinsider.com/2010/10/recruiting-update-pack-closing-in-on-angel-rodriguez-2011pg/)

I only hope Angel is better than the last PG we beat out NC State for...
Frank  Richards  :star: :star: :star: :star:   :facepalm: Rivals really missed on that one.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 11, 2010, 04:23:58 PM
Breakdown magazine ranks Rodriguez and Diaz 5th and 6th respectively in the St of FLA for the Class of '11. Daniels at #2 is actually a transplant from SoCal but the site probably wants to take credit for as much talent in the state as possible, can't blame them for that.

For '12, Smith is ranked #3, Stephon Blair #12, and Baker #13. Rodriguez's teammate at Krop, 6'8" Tyrone Haughton, is ranked 10th, although I've never seen KSU mentioned in connection with him.

For '13, Malik Price-Martin is #3

http://breakdownmagazine.com/dailybreakdown/index.cfm?textID=2058
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on November 11, 2010, 04:26:45 PM
You would think that the 5th and 6th best players from Florida would be pretty good...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: stunz on November 12, 2010, 12:41:41 PM
emeh
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 12, 2010, 12:44:14 PM
emeh
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: hollacat on November 25, 2010, 07:38:34 PM
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 shooting guard Todd Mayo of Notre Dame Prep (MA) tells me he has a list of Baylor, Memphis, UNLV, Kansas, Kansas State & Kent State.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/southernmiss/basketball/recruiting/player-Todd-Mayo-82845
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on November 25, 2010, 07:57:58 PM
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 shooting guard Todd Mayo of Notre Dame Prep (MA) tells me he has a list of Baylor, Memphis, UNLV, Kansas, Kansas State & Kent State.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/southernmiss/basketball/recruiting/player-Todd-Mayo-82845

 :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on November 25, 2010, 08:01:12 PM
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 shooting guard Todd Mayo of Notre Dame Prep (MA) tells me he has a list of Baylor, Memphis, UNLV, Kansas, Kansas State & Kent State.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/southernmiss/basketball/recruiting/player-Todd-Mayo-82845

saw that.  thoughts?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on November 25, 2010, 10:48:41 PM
I want him
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on November 26, 2010, 09:43:48 AM
I want him

only if older bro is going to be paying his way.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 27, 2010, 11:34:08 PM
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 shooting guard Todd Mayo of Notre Dame Prep (MA) tells me he has a list of Baylor, Memphis, UNLV, Kansas, Kansas State & Kent State.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/southernmiss/basketball/recruiting/player-Todd-Mayo-82845

As much as it pains me to say it, he's probably a step up from Hoopy  :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on November 27, 2010, 11:38:41 PM
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 shooting guard Todd Mayo of Notre Dame Prep (MA) tells me he has a list of Baylor, Memphis, UNLV, Kansas, Kansas State & Kent State.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/southernmiss/basketball/recruiting/player-Todd-Mayo-82845

As much as it pains me to say it, he's probably a step up from Hoopy  :frown:

who?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on November 27, 2010, 11:54:58 PM
I also don't know who this Hoopy fellow is.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 27, 2010, 11:55:26 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Isiah-Jones-111858

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=7.1925
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on November 28, 2010, 12:14:21 AM
FWIW, Mayo was originally a Class of '10 prospect attending school and playing ball in the Memphis area last year. He was down to 3(W. Va, So. Miss, Baylor) last Spring before deciding to reclassify last(Rivals guys say it was grades).

A recent Scout update listed his current offers as Baylor(stunner), Missouri, UNLV BUT did not mention KSU or ku as schools of interest. He received very positive reviews for his play last weekend in the National Prep Showcase, primarily for his ability to score on all 3 levels, so there's a possibility that schools such as KSU and ku could have been persuaded to recruit him based upon his play at that event.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on November 28, 2010, 12:51:40 AM
@UD and/or Sys-  I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a crap but how do you guys think that effects their recruiting?  Seems like some players would shy away from that behavior, yet Scotty seems to land some very nice players.  Will it eventually catch up, or is that a common tactic? I guess I'm just curious what downside there is to just offering the eff out of players.  We seem to offer few players and don't land the players Baylor does.TIA.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on November 28, 2010, 08:41:24 AM
Why would any recruit want to go to Baylor?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yosh on November 28, 2010, 09:29:35 AM
@UD and/or Sys-  I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a cac but how do you guys think that effects their recruiting?  Seems like some players would shy away from that behavior, yet Scotty seems to land some very nice players.  Will it eventually catch up, or is that a common tactic? I guess I'm just curious what downside there is to just offering the eff out of players.  We seem to offer few players and don't land the players Baylor does.TIA.

downside:  hard to get right "fit"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on November 28, 2010, 09:43:41 AM
Why would any recruit want to go to Baylor?

To either get into the country or to get paid
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on November 28, 2010, 05:25:38 PM
@UD and/or Sys-  I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a crap but how do you guys think that effects their recruiting?  Seems like some players would shy away from that behavior, yet Scotty seems to land some very nice players.  Will it eventually catch up, or is that a common tactic? I guess I'm just curious what downside there is to just offering the eff out of players.  We seem to offer few players and don't land the players Baylor does.TIA.

i guess one downside could be spreading your recruiting attention too thin, and losing a recruit you want because he feels neglected.  with a hard working staff, probably not a big problem.


the real downside is the occasional awkward conversation when someone who thinks they had a real offer tries to commit and finds out they can't.  for a psychopath coach, that's not an issue.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on December 02, 2010, 07:57:12 AM
Has anyone else noticed that Diaz is in Rivals' top 150 now?

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on December 02, 2010, 08:10:12 AM
No
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on December 02, 2010, 10:16:07 AM
Has anyone else noticed that Diaz is in Rivals' top 150 now?



Where was Gipson before?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 02, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Has anyone else noticed that Diaz is in Rivals' top 150 now?

he's been there since their last update in august.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 02, 2010, 06:23:57 PM
I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a crap.

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/02/baylor-offers-a-scholarship-to-8th-grader-adrian-moore/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 02, 2010, 06:27:49 PM
I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a crap.

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/02/baylor-offers-a-scholarship-to-8th-grader-adrian-moore/

that should help his reputation.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on December 02, 2010, 08:04:10 PM
I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a cac.

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/12/02/baylor-offers-a-scholarship-to-8th-grader-adrian-moore/

bossi already shot that down.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 02, 2010, 08:14:47 PM
bossi already shot that down.

damn, that sucks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on December 10, 2010, 11:59:13 AM
Top 10 Motor for the Gipper!

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1163726
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on December 10, 2010, 12:42:11 PM
Top 10 Motor for the Gipper!

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1163726

for whatever reason my GPC login won't let me read.  Please PM or post youknowwhere
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on December 10, 2010, 12:44:37 PM
Top 10 Motor for the Gipper!

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1163726

for whatever reason my GPC login won't let me read.  Please PM or post youknowwhere

rivals rated "The Top 10 Non-stop Motors in the Class of 2010"; Gipper was #10.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SleepFighter on December 10, 2010, 02:41:16 PM
Top 10 Motor for the Gipper!

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1163726

for whatever reason my GPC login won't let me read.  Please PM or post youknowwhere

rivals rated "The Top 10 Non-stop Motors in the Class of 2010"; Gipper was #10.

Fit!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on December 10, 2010, 09:37:35 PM
@UD and/or Sys-  I get that it's a running joke that Baylor offers everyone worth a crap but how do you guys think that effects their recruiting?  Seems like some players would shy away from that behavior, yet Scotty seems to land some very nice players.  Will it eventually catch up, or is that a common tactic? I guess I'm just curious what downside there is to just offering the eff out of players.  We seem to offer few players and don't land the players Baylor does.TIA.

i guess one downside could be spreading your recruiting attention too thin, and losing a recruit you want because he feels neglected.  with a hard working staff, probably not a big problem.


the real downside is the occasional awkward conversation when someone who thinks they had a real offer tries to commit and finds out they can't.  for a psychopath coach, that's not an issue.



Well one of the pretty obvious downsides to making so many offers is risking the scenario in which 3 or 4 guys say yes early on, and you're stuck with those guys if another guy that's better wants in later and you're out of schollies.

It definitely seems to be working, though, at least until BU gets busted. By now we've got to come to terms with the fact that players apparently want to play in Waco($), but all those offers creates competition and encourages recruits to commit ASAP in order to avoid ending up being left out. Also keeps Baylor almost constantly in the recruiting headlines.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 11, 2010, 11:38:59 PM
st. louis/se missouri with a weird year.  mcclemore, young and now porter all sleeper to elite in the same year.


i guess technically, mcclemore was last year athletically.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 17, 2010, 03:18:53 PM
Quote from: dave telep
Dr. Krop. Who's going to beat these dudes in Fla? Got a 6-9 post named Tyrone Haughton, a junior & Angel Rodriguez. Plus K-State unis.


 :driving:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on December 17, 2010, 03:20:27 PM
yes!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 17, 2010, 03:23:21 PM
Quote from: another telep tweet
Watched Jose Juan Berea for 1st time at City of Palms. Watching Angel Rodriguez now. Impossible not to have flashbacks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on December 17, 2010, 03:57:07 PM
Just read that and sprinted over here. AR-T maybe getting a ratings bump  :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 17, 2010, 04:15:01 PM
Quote from: telep
Game Eval: I would commit secondary for McAdoo, might in the spring for Rodriguez and Houghton could force a text out of me next year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 17, 2010, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: highmajorscoop on ar-t
Tough nosed. Stubborn at times. Goes for homerun plays a lot. High level offensive package. Great hands. Needs to pick and choose.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 18, 2010, 01:51:41 PM
Quote
Commend the fearlessness of Angel Rodriguez BUT he's got to take better shots and less chances w/ball. Now, he's a tough kid, rebounds too.

telep from today, so i guess he prolly was at this morning's game.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 18, 2010, 01:57:34 PM
Quote
Game 1: Norfolk Christian (Va.) 62 Dr. Krop (Miami,Fl.) 60

Norfolk was lead by there All-American 6-foot-8, Senior James McAdoo and his 18 points to go along with 10 rebounds. McAdoo who displayed a polished face-up game with the ability to use either shoulder equally well and even displayed sweeping weak hand hooks will take his services to Chapel Hill next season for the Tarheels.

Norfolk has three other places reach double figures with Mike Murray (15pts/game winning layup), Dontrell Silver (15pts) and Mario Nixons’s double-double with (10pts and 10rbs).

Dr. Krop was lead by Kansas State signee Angel Rodriguez who went for 22 points on the night to go along with 6 assists and 3 steals. Rodriguez who’s owns a complete offensive package with combo scoring moves, ability to shoot the deep ball and court vision will be a solid player for Frank Martin in years to come. 6-foot-2, Senior, Bryan Delancy was infuego from beyond the arch going 6-for-11 totaling 18 points. Hightly touted, and very athletic 2012 big man Tyrone Haughton finished with a quiet 8 points and 7 rebounds, but his prescience in the lane, along with length and athletic ability make him a top big in the country.

Dr. Krop goes into the consolation bracket Saturday afternoon where they will face local program North Port. Norfolk Christian will take on the winner of Milton/Fort Myers late Monday afternoon.

http://highmajorscoop.com/2010/12/city-of-palms-opening-night/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on December 18, 2010, 02:21:15 PM
Quote
Commend the fearlessness of Angel Rodriguez BUT he's got to take better shots and less chances w/ball. Now, he's a tough kid, rebounds too.

telep from today, so i guess he prolly was at this morning's game.

I know he's got a different skill set, but could he sound any more like Denis?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on December 18, 2010, 05:52:50 PM
Quote
Commend the fearlessness of Angel Rodriguez BUT he's got to take better shots and less chances w/ball. Now, he's a tough kid, rebounds too.

telep from today, so i guess he prolly was at this morning's game.

I know he's got a different skill set, but could he sound any more like Denis?

No, every update sounds more and more like Denis. By the time he gets here, they'll be identical.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 18, 2010, 09:36:29 PM
Quote
Rodriguez who’s owns a complete offensive package with combo scoring moves

This is all I can ever ask for
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on December 19, 2010, 08:07:16 AM
If he is anything at all like Denis I will love him forever.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on December 19, 2010, 08:43:45 AM
Denis should come back for this year's senior year.  If anyone bothers to show up for the game, he would get a much louder cheer.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 19, 2010, 12:21:06 PM

Quote
Commend the fearlessness of Angel Rodriguez BUT he's got to take better shots and less chances w/ball. Now, he's a tough kid, rebounds too.

it probably sounds like every guard that's the best player on their team.  i'm sure someone could have said the same about pullen, spradling, etc.

i don't think ar-t will remind people too much of clemente when they're watching him play.  though, some dumbasses are actualy using a spradling-henson comparo, so i guess a shared cultural heritage is more important than a shared style of play.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on December 19, 2010, 12:28:02 PM
what would be a good comparo to AR-T?  D Lavendar? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 19, 2010, 12:33:44 PM
what would be a good comparo to AR-T?  D Lavendar? 

people that see him play seem to use barea.  he's puerto rican, don't forget.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on December 19, 2010, 12:49:41 PM
what would be a good comparo to AR-T?  D Lavendar? 

people that see him play seem to use barea.  he's puerto rican, don't forget.

...how could I.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on December 19, 2010, 12:59:20 PM
what would be a good comparo to AR-T?  D Lavendar? 

people that see him play seem to use barea.  he's puerto rican, don't forget.

lol
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 20, 2010, 10:24:33 AM
Hey, anybody heard anything on that Angel Rodriguez kid? I think he may have played in some tournament this weekend, right?

All kidding aside, it's good that a lot of the recruiting gurus were finally able to see him in action. Telep weighs in here:


"• Angel Rodriguez (Miami, Fla./Dr. Krop) isn't big (5-11) but he's fearless. He plays with the bravado of a bigger guard and takes his chances (six assists, 12 turnovers in first two games). His shot selection gets interesting but you can't fault the effort or hustle he plays with and he gutted out eight offensive rebounds. Frank Martin likes his fearless leaders at Kansas State, guys who play with chips on their shoulders."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5938598


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Ira Hayes on December 20, 2010, 12:04:10 PM
I bet Angel is super-pumped about getting to practice with the Miami Heat's Carlos Arroyo and the rest of the Puerto Rican national team this summer!   :excited:

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=9195.0

 :chainsaw:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Ira Hayes on December 20, 2010, 12:19:01 PM
what would be a good comparo to AR-T?  D Lavendar? 

people that see him play seem to use barea.  he's puerto rican, don't forget.

Another guy that will be hanging out in Louisville with Rick Pitino this summer.  :runaway:

Quote
Puerto Rico must finish in the top two in next summer's tournament to travel to London in 2012. Pitino met with Dallas Mavericks guard J.J. Barea and Miami Heat point guard Carlos Arroyo -- both Puerto Rico natives -- in Miami on Sunday to gauge their interest and came away impressed.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on December 20, 2010, 12:21:03 PM
what would be a good comparo to AR-T?  D Lavendar? 

people that see him play seem to use barea.  he's puerto rican, don't forget.

Another guy that will be hanging out in Louisville with Rick Pitino this summer.  :runaway:

Quote
Puerto Rico must finish in the top two in next summer's tournament to travel to London in 2012. Pitino met with Dallas Mavericks guard J.J. Barea and Miami Heat point guard Carlos Arroyo -- both Puerto Rico natives -- in Miami on Sunday to gauge their interest and came away impressed.


Lu Colon.  Boom.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on December 23, 2010, 05:49:02 PM
city of palms recap

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5950543
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 24, 2010, 01:20:07 PM
meyer & bossi being mean to ar-t.

Quote
Tough and competitive. Average athlete. Solid handler but not a unique playmaker. Scores from the perimeter but didn't shoot it that well at City of Palms.

Don't see as a 150 prospect.

Quote
It doesn't sound like Rodriguez played his way into top 150.  Volume shooting point guard who isn't all that quick.

Went 22/70 overall (38.5%) and 5-23 from three (21.7%) with 19 assists to 25 turnovers during his four games at City of Palms.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 24, 2010, 01:21:11 PM
:frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on December 25, 2010, 11:22:26 AM
There goes my hope of a 4 star
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: cas4ksu on December 25, 2010, 03:43:11 PM
I'm just sad that he isn't as quick as I was hoping.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on December 25, 2010, 04:08:02 PM
I'm just sad that he isn't as quick as I was hoping.

pretty :opcat: of you to assume that he would be the same as denis.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WildcatNation on December 25, 2010, 06:47:58 PM
I'm just sad that he isn't as quick as I was hoping.

pretty :opcat: of you to assume that he would be the same as denis.

buttttttttttttttttt they are both foreign, 3 star, Miami Tropic, adorable, dobercats!  :cheers:

maybe he will get some quicks somehow?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on December 27, 2010, 07:59:34 AM
meyer & bossi being mean to ar-t.

Quote
Tough and competitive. Average athlete. Solid handler but not a unique playmaker. Scores from the perimeter but didn't shoot it that well at City of Palms.

Don't see as a 150 prospect.

Quote
It doesn't sound like Rodriguez played his way into top 150.  Volume shooting point guard who isn't all that quick.

Went 22/70 overall (38.5%) and 5-23 from three (21.7%) with 19 assists to 25 turnovers during his four games at City of Palms.

Goddamned, Sys.  Just when I was starting to convince myself...


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on December 27, 2010, 08:42:36 AM
"Here comes Nick Russell and your 2011 Wildcats......"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on December 27, 2010, 11:11:11 AM
Are we recruiting at a Jim Wooldridge level yet or not?  Starting to think we're almost there.


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on December 27, 2010, 12:36:26 PM
Are we recruiting at a Jim Wooldridge level yet or not?  Starting to think we're almost there.




we don't really have a cartier or a massey on the team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on December 27, 2010, 09:41:02 PM
Are we recruiting at a Jim Wooldridge level yet or not?  Starting to think we're almost there.




we don't really have a cartier or a massey on the team.
this is depressing... my lord :cry:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on December 28, 2010, 05:20:03 PM
3 stars. LOL
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on December 28, 2010, 06:47:50 PM
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Angel Rodriguez – 5’11, CG, 2011 (Miami, Fla./ Dr. Krop)
The Kansas State signee did not shoot the ball extremely well this week, but his ability to get into the lane and finish strong despite his small stature was impressive.  He has a quick first step and is strong with the ball, making it tough for defenders to stay in front of him.  He looks to score more at this point, and he tends to find a way to put the ball in the basket more often than not, but he will have to take better care of the ball and become a consistent distributor at the next level to maximize his potential for the Wildcats.

http://www.swflhoops.com/2010_CityofPalmsClassic_Recap.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on December 28, 2010, 07:35:50 PM
...so basically, relative to what we need him to be, AR-T sucks?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on January 09, 2011, 01:08:30 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Cezar-Guerrero-82492

Frank must not like Mexicans.
(http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/r/9a/9aa5b072c3256ee7fe7e6d63140b360e/195977.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on January 09, 2011, 02:08:43 PM
Don't we already have another undersized scoring PG in the fold for the Class of '11?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on January 09, 2011, 02:22:57 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Cezar-Guerrero-82492

Frank must not like Mexicans.
(http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/r/9a/9aa5b072c3256ee7fe7e6d63140b360e/195977.jpg)


The Jersey Shore dude. :love:

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/12/23/alg_jersey_shore_dell_new.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on January 09, 2011, 05:02:05 PM
Cezar is a f*cking baller. But we do not like good players. Only the hard nosed 3 stars who will work hard!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on January 09, 2011, 07:34:49 PM
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Cezar-Guerrero-82492

Frank must not like Mexicans.
(http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/r/9a/9aa5b072c3256ee7fe7e6d63140b360e/195977.jpg)


Why is this kid's offer list so bad?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on January 17, 2011, 05:16:53 AM
Why is he so good? Cezar > Angel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRP-5FAfAaQ
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on January 18, 2011, 10:18:16 AM
...so is Frank going to fill Freddy's schollie with some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2011, 10:19:55 AM
...so is Frank going to fill Freddy's schollie with some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

hopefully not Omari.  I don't like his twitter.  It's gross. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on January 18, 2011, 10:27:16 AM
...so is Frank going to fill Freddy's schollie with some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

hopefully not Omari.  I don't like his twitter.  It's gross. 

maybe Art has another kid that sucks that frank could snatch up?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 18, 2011, 10:30:51 AM
It's just too bad Asprilla didn't quit before the Willie Reed boat sailed.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 18, 2011, 11:06:28 AM
Oh well, Te450K and Frank can continue to suck at recruiting from plush new offices in a couple of years.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on January 18, 2011, 11:42:12 AM
...so is Frank going to fill Freddy's schollie with some Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)?

hopefully not Omari.  I don't like his twitter.  It's gross. 

maybe Art has another kid that sucks that frank could snatch up?

Dudes, with Asprilla gone, we're even now(1 over if you count OMoney), but somebody(plural) will inevitably get run in the Spring leaving us to recruit another Juevol Myles level player.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on January 18, 2011, 01:53:34 PM
Dudes, with Asprilla gone, we're even now(1 over if you count OMoney), but somebody(plural) will inevitably get run in the Spring leaving us to recruit another Juevol Myles level player.

let's just hope that the staff manages to control themselves with re. to the insane hope that they can pick up one of the spring leftovers that is better than the players already on the team.

the other thing to remember is that they're now down to just a single 2012 to give.  pending further developments.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on January 18, 2011, 03:24:29 PM
Dudes, with Asprilla gone, we're even now(1 over if you count OMoney), but somebody(plural) will inevitably get run in the Spring leaving us to recruit another Juevol Myles level player.

let's just hope that the staff manages to control themselves with re. to the insane hope that they can pick up one of the spring leftovers that is better than the players already on the team.

the other thing to remember is that they're now down to just a single 2012 to give.  pending further developments.
Has AJPC written all over it  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on January 18, 2011, 08:58:08 PM
Quote
dfwhoops D/FW Metroplex Hoops
Thomas Gipson looks to have trimmed down and gotten his bounce back. Haven't seen this side of him since his soph year. Frank Martin would
...
Happy
...
Theres a Chris Washburn citing. Bruising matchup between him and Thomas Gipson.

this is three seperate tweets but the middle one is a non-sensical continuation of the first
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on January 18, 2011, 09:30:58 PM
 :shy:


says shy, but i think of him as slightly happy, and that's how i'll use him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on January 20, 2011, 12:48:09 PM
Mayo update from Zagsblog, no KSU Cats:

**Todd Mayo, 6-3 2011 G, Notre Dame Prep (Mass.)

The younger brother of Memphis Grizzlies guard O.J. Mayo, Todd was tremendous in scoring 20 points on 5 of 10 shooting in a Notre Dame Prep’s 86-70 win over South Kent.

An athletic wing and strong finisher who seems to have a high basketball IQ, he listed Kansas, Baylor, Marquette and Oklahoma State and said he’ll visit Baylor Feb. 26.

“Now I’m qualified,” he said. “I’m taking my visits.”

http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/01/15/uncommitted-studs-at-big-apple-invitational/#more-45444


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on January 21, 2011, 10:17:50 PM
there's a small chance that Omari could be decent isn't there?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on January 22, 2011, 01:01:55 AM
Omari is going to be nice. But I'm sure he lacks the defensive skills and won't play. The offensive ability is there.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on January 22, 2011, 06:29:35 AM
there's a small chance that Omari could be decent isn't there?

He struggled at St. John and got hurt, then allegedly got fat.  Just from the one time I saw him in person this year he's not fat now.  But, based solely off his tweets, he's not a good basketball player.  You could tell DPete was a good player because of his tweets. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on January 23, 2011, 04:59:52 PM
I trust that there are no plans to give this guy a scholly.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/st-johns/omari-lawrence

He'd be a nice walkon.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on January 30, 2011, 11:33:44 AM
And Boatright goes off for 47 yesterday. The UCONN commit is a Kemba Walker clone. :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on January 31, 2011, 04:05:28 PM
Well, I do expect business to pick up in this thread fairly soon, not necessarily "good" business, but I do expect it to pick up. To the best of my knowledge, the 2 propsects below are the only ones from this class we've been linked to but I haven't seen anything on either of them for the past couple months.

- Carlos Emory 6'6" 220 wing   Howard(TX) JC, originally from Minneapolis. Team is currently 14-5 and he's averaging 17 pts, 7 boards and 2 asts per game.

- Isiah "Hoopy" Jones 6'2" 180 combo G. Was attending Christian Life Academy in Houston, but he's not appearing on their roster for this year. :dunno: (see posts from around Nov 5 in link below).

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=7.1925
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on January 31, 2011, 04:06:19 PM
what about juco trash?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on January 31, 2011, 04:09:36 PM
Really need a big.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on January 31, 2011, 04:19:29 PM
what about juco trash?

Our man MIR posted this over on GPC, probably needs to be here also

Feast your eyes...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769;_ylt=AjDfzfPdFuEyMeloafX7loRrWpB4
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on January 31, 2011, 05:00:58 PM
philip jurick, please
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: theodore donald on January 31, 2011, 05:03:28 PM
#21
   
God's Gift Achiuwa
   
Want!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on January 31, 2011, 07:24:36 PM
what about juco trash?

Our man MIR posted this over on GPC, probably needs to be here also

Feast your eyes...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769;_ylt=AjDfzfPdFuEyMeloafX7loRrWpB4

Has anyone emailed this to Frank yet?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on January 31, 2011, 08:31:11 PM
we recruited Stan Simpson, IIRC.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on January 31, 2011, 08:31:38 PM
I apologize if these guys have been mentioned before, but here are some preps that are still open per ESPN and Rivals:

Jarion Henry (4 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Dallas, TX/Kimball - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578)

Otto Porter (4 star Rivals/4 star ESPN) - Sikeston, MO/Scott County Central - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410)

Eric Katenda (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Bel Aire, KS/Sunrise Christian Academy - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222)

Kevin Johnson (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Woodland Hills, CA/William Howard Taft - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on January 31, 2011, 09:46:24 PM
I apologize if these guys have been mentioned before, but here are some preps that are still open per ESPN and Rivals:

Jarion Henry (4 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Dallas, TX/Kimball - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578)

Otto Porter (4 star Rivals/4 star ESPN) - Sikeston, MO/Scott County Central - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410)

Eric Katenda (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Bel Aire, KS/Sunrise Christian Academy - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222)

Kevin Johnson (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Woodland Hills, CA/William Howard Taft - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667)

Forget it, the well is poisoned, no of these kids are going to come to K-State and put up with Frank.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on January 31, 2011, 10:49:24 PM
I apologize if these guys have been mentioned before, but here are some preps that are still open per ESPN and Rivals:

Jarion Henry (4 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Dallas, TX/Kimball - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Jarion-Henry-104578)

Otto Porter (4 star Rivals/4 star ESPN) - Sikeston, MO/Scott County Central - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Otto-Porter-108410)

Eric Katenda (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Bel Aire, KS/Sunrise Christian Academy - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-109222)

Kevin Johnson (3 star Rivals/3 star ESPN) - Woodland Hills, CA/William Howard Taft - http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Kevin-Johnson-82667)

Forget it, the well is poisoned, no of these kids are going to come to K-State and put up with Frank.

Well, he has this year and next to make some strides.  Because he ran so many players off, the 2012 class doesn't need many bodies, so he'll be able to field a team next year with the players he brought in now.

Realistically, we're probably looking at one JUCO addition with a scholarship being held for 2012.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 01, 2011, 07:18:49 AM
I don't like Gilbert/Buchi/Canada recruiting season  :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on February 01, 2011, 01:16:41 PM
 :runaway: Ballplayers alert!  :runaway:

Quote
2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.

Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.

2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on February 01, 2011, 01:45:56 PM
:runaway: Ballplayers alert!  :runaway:

Quote
2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.

Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.

2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!

Doesn't bode well for next season.  Play for the future.  Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on February 01, 2011, 01:51:21 PM
:runaway: Ballplayers alert!  :runaway:

Quote
2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.

Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.

2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!

Doesn't bode well for next season.  Play for the future.  Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.

A Mystransfer/Juco PG would sure make me feel a hell of a lot better..... Te'420k????
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 01, 2011, 02:14:57 PM
:runaway: Ballplayers alert!  :runaway:

Quote
2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.

Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.

2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!

Doesn't bode well for next season.  Play for the future.  Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.

Well, that settles it.  Ojeleye is going to be a key cog in the 2011-2012 season.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on February 01, 2011, 02:17:10 PM
:runaway: Ballplayers alert!  :runaway:

Quote
2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.

Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.

2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!

Doesn't bode well for next season.  Play for the future.  Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.

Well, that settles it.  Ojeleye is going to be a key cog in the 2011-2012 season.

 vic

 :goodbyecruelworld:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on February 01, 2011, 02:22:32 PM
Remember that time when both us and ku needed a pg, and they went out and got Selby and we went out and got a Canadian?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 01, 2011, 03:33:07 PM
:runaway: Ballplayers alert!  :runaway:

Quote
2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.

Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.

2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!

Doesn't bode well for next season.  Play for the future.  Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.

What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on February 01, 2011, 03:34:47 PM
:runaway: Ballplayers alert!  :runaway:

Quote
2011 was NOT a good Class nationally & very little is UNsigned!
The 3 that KSU has are very good for 2011.

Saw Diaz & Rodriguez in Jan.,
both are good enough, neither are Frosh Stars to be.

2012 Class is much better & bigger regionally + nationally,
...likely to "save" 1 or 2 rides for the 2012 Class!

Doesn't bode well for next season.  Play for the future.  Now if the tards could only forget that Frank speaks spanish, they would fall in love.

What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.



I know.

Damn.

I know.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 01, 2011, 03:36:49 PM
What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.

two big differences: we already had Judge and McGruder commitments in hand.  And the 2011 class is FAR better than the 2008 class.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on February 01, 2011, 03:54:57 PM
What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.

two big differences: we already had Judge and McGruder commitments in hand.  And the 2011 class is FAR better than the 2008 class.

Yeah 08' was horrible, even by Wally standards. I'd really be alright with 11' IF we already had an experienced impact pg on the roster.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 01, 2011, 04:56:38 PM
What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.

two big differences: we already had Judge and McGruder commitments in hand.  And the 2011 class is FAR better than the 2008 class.

Yeah 08' was horrible, even by Wally standards. I'd really be alright with 11' IF we already had an experienced impact pg on the roster.

Angel gets on-the-job training.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 01, 2011, 05:07:02 PM
What did you expect? We're essentially in a similar situation as we were the season following Beasley and Walker.

two big differences: we already had Judge and McGruder commitments in hand.  And the 2011 class is FAR better than the 2008 class.

Yeah 08' was horrible, even by Wally standards. I'd really be alright with 11' IF we already had an experienced impact pg on the roster.

Angel gets on-the-job training.

Sprads and Angel will split time at PG, plus it would be hard to convince any impact guard to come here with the number of guards we have on scholarship anyway.  I'd say if we can't get a really good big, save it for 12 and hope you can get Smart and Ellis or some combo of really good players like that. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on February 01, 2011, 05:24:22 PM
You really think they will save one?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on February 01, 2011, 05:25:47 PM
You really think they will save one?
Why use it just to use it?  Just setting up for another mediocre player you many need to run off the following year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 01, 2011, 05:29:22 PM
You really think they will save one?

I don't think it would be a bad idea. There are still 5 left in the SO class and Samuels is currently the only scholarship JR. Kelly, Pullen, and Asprilla's departure leaves 3 for Rodriguez, Gipson, and Diaz. Judge frees up an extra, but rather than try to find some last ditch 2011 recruit, give it to Peterson for another scholarship in the current JR class, then you have 2 to give for the next class.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on February 01, 2011, 06:13:28 PM
Unless we somehow pull a great player, may as well save it for 2012.  (Hopefully it won't get used on some shitty player in that class either.)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The Whale on February 01, 2011, 07:08:52 PM
You really think they will save one?

I don't think it would be a bad idea. There are still 5 left in the SO class and Samuels is currently the only scholarship JR. Kelly, Pullen, and Asprilla's departure leaves 3 for Rodriguez, Gipson, and Diaz. Judge frees up an extra, but rather than try to find some last ditch 2011 recruit, give it to Peterson for another scholarship in the current JR class, then you have 2 to give for the next class.

Saving one would allow the 'Open Scholarship would've made that' meme to continue.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 01, 2011, 07:26:07 PM
You really think they will save one?

I don't think it would be a bad idea. There are still 5 left in the SO class and Samuels is currently the only scholarship JR. Kelly, Pullen, and Asprilla's departure leaves 3 for Rodriguez, Gipson, and Diaz. Judge frees up an extra, but rather than try to find some last ditch 2011 recruit, give it to Peterson for another scholarship in the current JR class, then you have 2 to give for the next class.

Saving one would allow the 'Open Scholarship would've made that' meme to continue.

Yes. This is the BBS bonus of the move, and by itself (regardless of roster imbalance) would be worth it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 01, 2011, 11:10:09 PM
otto porter is really good.  prolly too late to make any headway with him, but he's about the only one worth trying for.



they should bank the 'ship with a walk on till 2012, but they'll prolly pick a no talent juco, then run him off halfway through the '11-'12 season.  dumbasses.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on February 06, 2011, 05:14:12 PM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs641.snc4/60151_150029531703048_100000880073392_228339_6211682_n.jpg)


Some dude: hahaha he finna be all up in ya stuff lol
but is he cool though?

Thomas Kansas State Gipson: hell yea

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 06, 2011, 07:36:29 PM
akeem wright had some kinda sobering tweets on playing for martin/huggins.  nothing mean/anti emaw, just that it was difficult to handle.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on February 06, 2011, 07:38:12 PM
just that is was difficult to handle.

Just like the ball.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 06, 2011, 07:57:46 PM
otto porter is really good.  prolly too late to make any headway with him, but he's about the only one worth trying for.

they should bank the 'ship with a walk on till 2012, but they'll prolly pick a no talent juco, then run him off halfway through the '11-'12 season.  dumbasses.

for pointless speculation that i would pi most others for, lowe is on track to be fired, possibly tossing these recruits back up.  word of god is clifton friendly, iirc, and some poster once said something about how the cliftons liked hill.  it appears that harris played with the westchester hawks, where sean kilpatrick played.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/school/_/id/152
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EMAWzified on February 06, 2011, 09:26:21 PM
From the same point of view, I looked to see who might free up with a coaching change at the U. of Miami. Turns out they don't have cac.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 10:53:06 AM
@DaveTelep Kansas State going to see former Chi Simeon guard Jeremy Jones of Seward JC. Frank Martin making the trip himself to check him out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 10:54:06 AM
:sigh: I hate Buchi/Gilbert/Canada recruiting season  :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 10:54:53 AM
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4104:jeremy-jones-named-kjccc-player-of-the-week&catid=35:mbasketball&Itemid=171
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 10:56:38 AM
Quote
Jeremy Jones Prepping For Simeon’s Opener Vs. Oak Hill
By Cavan Walsh

Class of 2009 combo guard Jeremy Jones of Simeon High School is poised to come into his own and breakout this upcoming season after a stellar fall and summer. Jones is a long 6 foot 2 inches with an uncanny ability to knock down shots from long range, and the kid is clutch. With Simeon’s first game in nearly a month’s time, when they will square off with national powerhouse Oak Hill Academy at the Marshall County Hoopfest, Jones is steadily prepping for the season and weighing his college choices.

“Yeah this is our last week of conditioning, and then we start practice next Monday,” stated Jones. “It’s the last week so we made it through, it was alright. I mean it was hard, but it wasn’t it was just long and a lot of running it wasn’t that bad though,” said Jones.

After breakout performances at Nike MDOC, Nike Peach Jam, and AAU Super Showcase the latter two coming in front of dozens of college coaches, Jones recruiting stock really elevated.

“Basically the only two right now are Kent State and University of Detroit. Both have offered, I am supposed to visit Detroit on the 7th of this month, and Kent State hasn’t scheduled a visit yet. I most likely won’t make the Detroit visit on the 7th, but we are rescheduling it. Kyle (Cain) is going to Detroit on the 7th instead. I will visit Kent State also; I just have to set the visit up with them. It’s really just those two schools right now and whoever else will jumps in during the season,” commented Jones.

While Jones is not planning to make a decision anytime soon, he has a few preferences for his future college. “I know for sure that I am waiting to make a decision after the season. I’m just looking for a good program, location, academics, and coaches all that, and just overall where I fit in at.” Also another possibility Jones is looking at is teaming up with his Illinois Warriors teammate and best friend Kyle Cain from T.F. North. Cain is also being heavily recruited by University of Detroit. “It really makes Detroit’s chances a lot better. We talk about it all the time playing in college together,” Jones said.

With lofty goals every year at Simeon they again are no different this year. “Nothing less than state title, I think we can win it all; we got a great chance to do that and win the city also. I can’t tell you how excited I am for the season.”
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 11:00:53 AM
Quote
Junior Jeremy Jones "was the best shooter in our program" last season, Smith said.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on February 07, 2011, 11:01:40 AM
he doest sound so bad :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 07, 2011, 11:02:31 AM
Fred Brown.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 07, 2011, 11:03:02 AM
Why are we getting another guard?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 07, 2011, 11:05:58 AM
@DaveTelep Kansas State going to see former Chi Simeon guard Jeremy Jones of Seward JC. Frank Martin making the trip himself to check him out.


Seward is playing at Colby tonight, is Frank going to use this as an excuse to get out of his radio show tonight? If so, good for him  :woot:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 11:06:14 AM
Why are we getting another guard?

Telling Russell, Canada, Tay, etc. to GTFO and replacing them with someone as crappy or crappier just like we do every season.....though I would trade Canada for this loser I guess.  :dubious:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 07, 2011, 11:08:17 AM
Why are we getting another guard?

Telling Russell, Canada, Tay, etc. to GTFO and replacing them with someone as crappy or crappier just like we do every season.....though I would trade Canada for this loser I guess.  :dubious:

At least Canada can play PG. If we get rid of 95 for this guy, I'm giving up.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 11:10:09 AM
Why are we getting another guard?

Telling Russell, Canada, Tay, etc. to GTFO and replacing them with someone as crappy or crappier just like we do every season.....though I would trade Canada for this loser I guess.  :dubious:

At least Canada can play PG. If we get rid of 95 for this guy, I'm giving up.

Devon worked too hard to get here plus I hear Frank likes him because he gives him the effort he wants
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 07, 2011, 11:13:45 AM
Why are we getting another guard?

Telling Russell, Canada, Tay, etc. to GTFO and replacing them with someone as crappy or crappier just like we do every season.....though I would trade Canada for this loser I guess.  :dubious:

At least Canada can play PG. If we get rid of 95 for this guy, I'm giving up.

Devon worked too hard to get here plus I hear Frank likes him because he gives him the effort he wants

Didn't say it was likely, but I would definitely give up. After ISU, I'd be pretty pissed to get rid of Russell, too.

If we're going this route, why the hell don't we get a center? Next year we have JHR and Diaz to play the 5. We would lose the Big Sky Conference with those jerk-offs. We need someone else.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 11:14:52 AM
Also, Devon isn't even on scholarship (yet)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2011, 11:18:49 AM
This thread is a dumpster fire, unless Gipson turns out to be a low post scorer.  I have zero confidence we'll see this Diaz fella from Mexico.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 11:19:50 AM
This thread is a dumpster fire, unless Gipson turns out to be a low post scorer.  I have zero confidence we'll see this Diaz fella from Mexico.

how come?  :confused:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on February 07, 2011, 11:23:31 AM
This thread is a dumpster fire, unless Gipson turns out to be a low post scorer.  I have zero confidence we'll see this Diaz fella from Mexico.

This post plus all the unread activity on a monday morning for the '11 thread had me thinking we lost angel.  I guess finding out it was charity scholly to mediocre JC player day is better than the alternative.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on February 07, 2011, 11:30:37 AM
This thread is a dumpster fire, unless Gipson turns out to be a low post scorer.  I have zero confidence we'll see this Diaz fella from Mexico.

how come?  :confused:

There was speculation earlier that he may need prep school....and with our previous scholly count issues I had assumed that this must be the case.   But, I dont think Wally and Fred leaving was planned, so I still assume Diaz is prep bound.   Hope I am wrong, we will be in troubs with our bigs anyway...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 07, 2011, 11:33:21 AM
Also, Devon isn't even on scholarship (yet)

Right, I guess I don't know how someone with his ability and situation would view that going into their senior year. Should he get a scholarship because of his ability, or because of his situation will he stay here to play not matter what, so the staff doesn't see it a priority to get him a scholarship?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 07, 2011, 11:47:11 AM
This thread is a dumpster fire, unless Gipson turns out to be a low post scorer.  I have zero confidence we'll see this Diaz fella from Mexico.

how come?  :confused:

There was speculation earlier that he may need prep school....and with our previous scholly count issues I had assumed that this must be the case.   But, I dont think Wally and Fred leaving was planned, so I still assume Diaz is prep bound.   Hope I am wrong, we will be in troubs with our bigs anyway...

The prep stuff wasn't for grades....iirc
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on February 07, 2011, 11:49:53 AM
JFC.

(http://www.scccsaints.com/images/stories/201011mugs/jeremy%20jones.jpg)

Averaged 21 in big time high school bball & 18 PPG with 9 assists per game in JUCO.. I'll take.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2011, 11:56:32 AM
(http://www.mouthpiecesports.com/hsblogmedia/2008/11/jeremyjones.jpg)

I don't know about ability, but he looks to fit the adorable-ness profile...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 07, 2011, 12:07:02 PM
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3930:2010-2011-overall-statistics&catid=58:M%20Basketball&Itemid=175

39% from 3, 52% overall, 73% FT shooter. 113 assists to 72 TOs. 41 steals.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 07, 2011, 01:01:19 PM
Remember Tony Smith, the 6'4" PG from Seward we were recruiting last year until he got kicked off the team? He signed w/ East Carolina but doesn't look like he lasted too long there, not on their roster, no stats. (Miguel Paul is ready to tear it up there next year though)

http://www.ecupirates.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/ecu-m-baskbl-mtt.html

In no way is this post intended to be a knock on J. Jones or his hoops potential,just taking a trip down memory lane

18 pts, 5 asts, 2 boards, 1.7 stls on a good JC team, maybe a Matt Pressey caliber player?  :dunno:

We'll see if our interest (or if anybody else's) grows from here.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 07, 2011, 03:28:50 PM
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3930:2010-2011-overall-statistics&catid=58:M%20Basketball&Itemid=175

39% from 3, 52% overall, 73% FT shooter. 113 assists to 72 TOs. 41 steals.

I'd actually take him all things considered.

However, it means we're basically going to do nothing but run and shoot threes next year.  Rebounding is out of the question.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 07, 2011, 04:02:39 PM
they're just looking.  that's what staffs do.


jfc on the reaction here.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on February 07, 2011, 04:38:23 PM
Wait, the coaches evaluate multiple players so they can make well informed decisions during the recruiting?!  Bullshit!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on February 07, 2011, 06:07:15 PM
"Kansas State is Kansas State. Even if he's not foremost on their minds, Kansas State has built themselves into a situation, like North Carolina, where they can come in late and get a kid's attention. That's what they've done."

yeah don't care either way on the kid. but his coach  :love: jfc what a quote.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 07, 2011, 06:22:55 PM
but his coach  :love: jfc what a quote.

people like matt figger.  everyone does.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2011, 06:25:07 PM
they're just looking.  that's what staffs do.


jfc on the reaction here.

I think the takeaway is the emphasis on Frank going all the way out to shitty Liberal to evaluate the guy.  It's not like he's sending Brad out there while he's going to NYC.

Another shooting guard, awesome.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on February 07, 2011, 06:35:00 PM
http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3930:2010-2011-overall-statistics&catid=58:M%20Basketball&Itemid=175

39% from 3, 52% overall, 73% FT shooter. 113 assists to 72 TOs. 41 steals.

I'd actually take him all things considered.

However, it means we're basically going to do nothing but run and shoot threes next year.  Rebounding is out of the question.

Rodney can rebound... and Jamar rebounds every couple of games.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on February 07, 2011, 06:36:02 PM
but his coach  :love: jfc what a quote.

people like matt figger.  everyone does.

Seems nice enough
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on February 07, 2011, 06:36:38 PM
has frank gone to see perry play in person?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 07, 2011, 06:46:14 PM
I think the takeaway is the emphasis on Frank going all the way out to shitty Liberal to evaluate the guy.  It's not like he's sending Brad out there while he's going to NYC.

team had sun & mon off.  there better have been three coaches out seeing recruits.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on February 07, 2011, 07:33:17 PM
has frank gone to see perry play in person?

Ya
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on February 07, 2011, 07:36:39 PM
I think the takeaway is the emphasis on Frank going all the way out to shitty Liberal to evaluate the guy.  It's not like he's sending Brad out there while he's going to NYC.

team had sun & mon off.  there better have been three coaches out seeing recruits.

Yeah that's my point, why is Frank going to see this guy?  Not that it matters a whole lot, it gives the appearance that evaluating Jones is the highest priority.

Personally I'd love to see a guy who averages about 6 points and 8 assists pg.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 08, 2011, 08:24:02 AM
Seward lost last night to an average Colby team(12-13), Jones had 20 pts, 5 asts and 5 TO's

http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4141%3Ambb-16-sc-63-colby-70&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on February 08, 2011, 10:13:01 AM
Seward lost last night to an average Colby team(12-13), Jones had 20 pts, 5 asts and 5 TO's

http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4141%3Ambb-16-sc-63-colby-70&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172

FIT!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 08, 2011, 10:27:21 AM
Yep, the 5 Turnovers makes it a lock that this kid is going to get a K-State offer.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on February 08, 2011, 10:28:18 AM
Yep, the 5 Turnovers makes it a lock that this kid is going to get a K-State offer.



I bet he gave up at least three back door layups
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on February 08, 2011, 10:33:14 AM
Yep, the 5 Turnovers makes it a lock that this kid is going to get a K-State offer.

First guy off the Team goEMAWtard bench?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 08, 2011, 10:40:04 AM
 :ck:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 08, 2011, 05:49:50 PM
Quote
Heard K-State is going to check out 7-0 C Jordan Dickerson (Lincoln, NY) This kid has greatly improved over the course of the season.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/125442/jordan-dickerson

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Jordan-Dickerson-118700#college_choices

 :cry:

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 08, 2011, 05:52:20 PM
Seward lost last night to an average Colby team(12-13), Jones had 20 pts, 5 asts and 5 TO's

http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4141%3Ambb-16-sc-63-colby-70&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172

meh, probably just trying too hard
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 08, 2011, 08:07:32 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas State watched Lincoln (NY) forward Kamari Murphy '12 & center Jordan Dickerson '11 tonight.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on February 08, 2011, 08:47:39 PM
I think we are more interested in Kamari because he has potential and a high ceiling compared to Jordan who is just big and sucks/no motor.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 08, 2011, 08:55:29 PM
Decent read on Dickerson:

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/work_season_progress_dickerson_looks_QqxAhqoJcaACXggMa5OkyJ (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/work_season_progress_dickerson_looks_QqxAhqoJcaACXggMa5OkyJ)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wes mantooth on February 08, 2011, 09:56:49 PM
Apparently Figg is going to watch this guy play.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838

Neckbrace.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 08, 2011, 10:00:40 PM
at least we have death spiral/desperation/spring recruiting to take our minds off not watching kelly play.

Quote
A Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103228/nemenja-djurisic
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on February 08, 2011, 10:05:02 PM
at least we have death spiral/desperation/spring recruiting to take our minds off not watching kelly play.

Quote
A Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103228/nemenja-djurisic


Oh Christ, this all we need.  Dig a ditch, we are going throw some bodies in it.  goRapeCamp.com
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on February 08, 2011, 10:06:36 PM
Queue the African-French Volleyball players....
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 09, 2011, 07:10:26 AM
at least we have death spiral/desperation/spring recruiting to take our minds off not watching kelly play.

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A Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103228/nemenja-djurisic


I'm not 100% certain that is even a mexican name
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 09, 2011, 09:49:32 AM
at least we have death spiral/desperation/spring recruiting to take our minds off not watching kelly play.

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A Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103228/nemenja-djurisic


Would give Potuzak someone to talk to
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 09, 2011, 10:36:45 AM
at least we have death spiral/desperation/spring recruiting to take our minds off not watching kelly play.

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A Kansas State assistant will make the trip east to South Kent Prep to watch 6-foot-8, Serbian forward Nemanja Djurisic tomorrow night.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/103228/nemenja-djurisic


I'm not 100% certain that is even a mexican name

Does Montenegro even have a flag?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 10, 2011, 12:39:29 PM
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ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 10, 2011, 12:57:29 PM
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ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.

if people cared about recruiting like they should, this should blow up like the kelly thread.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2011, 12:59:12 PM
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ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.

if people cared about recruiting like they should, this should blow up like the kelly thread.

:dubious:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 10, 2011, 01:01:02 PM
they're just looking.  that's what staffs do.


jfc on the reaction here.

 :dubious:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on February 10, 2011, 01:01:24 PM
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ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.

if people cared about recruiting like they should, this should blow up like the kelly thread.

Yeah, I asked him bossi about jones and he said that he hasn't seen him enough to have an opinion on him.  Says a lot, imo, that a guy who does what bossi does, hasn't taken the time to get an idea on this kid.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 10, 2011, 01:19:29 PM
they're just looking.  that's what staffs do.


jfc on the reaction here.

 :dubious:

i didn't want to believe the kelly news at first either.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 10, 2011, 01:36:20 PM
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ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.

if people cared about recruiting like they should, this should blow up like the kelly thread.

that bad?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on February 10, 2011, 01:42:18 PM
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ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.

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ebosshoops
 
UNC has also called on Jeremy Jones out at Seward and has indicated that they plan to come out and watch him.

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 10, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
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ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.

if people cared about recruiting like they should, this should blow up like the kelly thread.

Yeah, I asked him bossi about jones and he said that he hasn't seen him enough to have an opinion on him.  Says a lot, imo, that a guy who does what bossi does, hasn't taken the time to get an idea on this kid.

To be fair, does bossi even evaluate JUCO kids?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 10, 2011, 01:45:06 PM
that bad?

him, specifically?  i have no idea.  the overall picture of kstate desperately recruiting both leftover guards and leftover bigs, in a year where they already oversigned by one in the fall, have a guy stashed at cloud, and have 95 on the roster as a walkon, is at least that bad.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on February 10, 2011, 01:45:46 PM
Quote
ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.

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ebosshoops
 
UNC has also called on Jeremy Jones out at Seward and has indicated that they plan to come out and watch him.

 :horrorsurprise:

well if good ole roy offers, forget about jeremy.  i thought unc was too prestigious for juco kids
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 10, 2011, 01:46:54 PM
To be fair, does bossi even evaluate JUCO kids?

a little bit, not much.  i think he generally goes to see a few local guys.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 10, 2011, 01:48:57 PM
And to be fair to Frank, putting in the 4 out look we have now should make an easy transition to next year's 5 out look. Jones will look great kicking to Will and McGruds, finishing at the rim, or kicking it to a streaking JHR.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 10, 2011, 01:49:57 PM
And to be fair to Frank, putting in the 4 out look we have now should make an easy transition to next year's 5 out look. Jones will look great kicking to Will and McGruds, finishing at the rim, or kicking it to a streaking JHR.

what language is this?  like, japanese or something?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on February 10, 2011, 01:50:47 PM
I have heard mentions of this type of thing happening before but don't know the specific situation our staff has with this particular Juco.  Could this just be a favor the staff has given to the Seward staff to get attention to this kid without ever actually using a scholarship on him?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on February 10, 2011, 07:05:13 PM
Whats the scoop on Jeremy Jones. What would we be getting if we landed this kid.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 10, 2011, 07:10:45 PM
Does this mean we're not getting the PG from Colorado?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 10, 2011, 08:33:39 PM
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ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Sources tell me K-State has offered Seward CC guard Jeremy Jones a scholarship.

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ebosshoops
  
UNC has also called on Jeremy Jones out at Seward and has indicated that they plan to come out and watch him.

 :horrorsurprise:

FWIW, Jones isn't the only JC guard UNC is looking at right now(see link below)

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=7176033

(Grooms appears to be the most highly sought with offers from OK St, Nebraska, and
S. Florida and interest from L'ville along with UNC)

I'd say it's a good sign that UNC is at least sniffing around Jones but it doesn't look like he's the 1 sole 'cruit they're after right now.




Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 10, 2011, 08:46:03 PM
In regard to the Jones recruitment/offer, I think it's a good sign that our staff is acknowledging that we are going to need some scoring punch and offensive creativity next year.

From what little we know about him, he sounds decent(good HS pedigree, solid yr so far on a good JC team), big questions are will his scoring/playmaking translate to high major ball and as always with Frank, can he D up? Looks fairly slight in the couple pictures I've seen, but hey, if he can score at a high level, then sign him up(that's just me talking here). With the void Pullen leaves in the backcourt next year and in this late stage in the recruiting period, might as well TRY to at least partially fill it.

 :crossfingers: Seward makes it to the NJCAA tourney this year
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 10, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
I think it's a good sign that our staff is acknowledging that we are going to need some scoring punch and offensive creativity next year.

i think it's a bad sign that the staff is panicking and running off three stars with two years in the program to bring in new guys with marginal talent.


you may have seen the gpc poster/former seward co player that said jones is more midmajorey than big 12ey?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 10, 2011, 09:28:20 PM
This guy is Judre Awjirving as far as I can tell.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 11, 2011, 09:25:08 AM
you may have seen the gpc poster/former seward co player that said jones is more midmajorey than big 12ey?

Is this the thread you're talking about? If so, the guy says he's never actually seen Jones play, he just recounts the cautionary tale of Tony Smith.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=142292363&sid=889&tid=142292363&style=2&Override=1

If this is not the thread/poster you are referring to, please direct me to it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 11, 2011, 02:57:28 PM
Djurisic eval from National Prep School Invitational that took place last weekend:

"Nemenja Djurisic (South Kent, Conn./ South Kent)
2011, PF, 6-8, 220 pounds
Djurisic solidified himself as one of the best post players left on the market with a pair of big performances this weekend. While not an explosive athlete, Djurisic has a versatile skill set and excellent feel for the game that make him a perfect fit for a program that likes to run offense. He stretched the floor to the 3-point line and also showed a crafty low-post game making good use of a Vlade Divac flip move. He was rugged and physical inside the paint and consequently able to rebound in traffic on both ends of the floor. Defensively, he was solid in the post, maintaining constant position between the ball and the basket and timely rotations to help on dribble penetration. "

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6098874
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 11, 2011, 02:59:43 PM
Djurisic eval from National Prep School Invitational that took place last weekend:

"Nemenja Djurisic (South Kent, Conn./ South Kent)
2011, PF, 6-8, 220 pounds
Djurisic solidified himself as one of the best post players left on the market with a pair of big performances this weekend. While not an explosive athlete, Djurisic has a versatile skill set and excellent feel for the game that make him a perfect fit for a program that likes to run offense. He stretched the floor to the 3-point line and also showed a crafty low-post game making good use of a Vlade Divac flip move. He was rugged and physical inside the paint and consequently able to rebound in traffic on both ends of the floor. Defensively, he was solid in the post, maintaining constant position between the ball and the basket and timely rotations to help on dribble penetration. "

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6098874

will take
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 11, 2011, 03:02:45 PM
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on February 11, 2011, 03:03:58 PM
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.

Can't find a Rivals profile, is he on any of the scouting sites radars?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 11, 2011, 03:04:50 PM
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.

They had me at
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one of the best post players left on the market
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 11, 2011, 03:06:40 PM
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.

They had me at
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one of the best post players left on the market

wasn't the 2011 big market shitty to begin with??
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 11, 2011, 03:08:04 PM
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.

Can't find a Rivals profile, is he on any of the scouting sites radars?

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Nemanja-Djurisic-119838

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=4705432
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 11, 2011, 03:24:03 PM
Could probably do worse, sounds like he's really starting to pick up his game.

They had me at
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one of the best post players left on the market

wasn't the 2011 big market shitty to begin with??

Oh yeah, we have a couple of lower ranked bigs from said shitty class already in the fold  :drool:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 11, 2011, 03:27:50 PM
Is this the thread you're talking about? If so, the guy says he's never actually seen Jones play, he just recounts the cautionary tale of Tony Smith.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=142292363&sid=889&tid=142292363&style=2&Override=1

If this is not the thread/poster you are referring to, please direct me to it.

yeah, that's it.  i was thinking of this quote.  it isn't exactly as i remembered it, but it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence either.

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i haven't seen him play, but i know a lot of people who have. lets just say the opinions are mixed as to whether he can play in the big 12. if frank gives him a scholly, great; i'll get to root for a kid who played juco ball for my old juco (and coach) and is playing d-1 for my alma mater. however, i'm not going to heap a ton of expectations on the kid, either.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 11, 2011, 03:29:56 PM
Could probably do worse.

oh, i don't think there's any question about that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 11, 2011, 04:38:34 PM
Is this the thread you're talking about? If so, the guy says he's never actually seen Jones play, he just recounts the cautionary tale of Tony Smith.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=419&mid=142292363&sid=889&tid=142292363&style=2&Override=1

If this is not the thread/poster you are referring to, please direct me to it.

yeah, that's it.  i was thinking of this quote.  it isn't exactly as i remembered it, but it doesn't inspire a lot of confidence either.

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i haven't seen him play, but i know a lot of people who have. lets just say the opinions are mixed as to whether he can play in the big 12. if frank gives him a scholly, great; i'll get to root for a kid who played juco ball for my old juco (and coach) and is playing d-1 for my alma mater. however, i'm not going to heap a ton of expectations on the kid, either.

Let me say I don't have GREAT expectations for Jones and that won't change if he ends up at KSU(unless he averages 30 and 7 down the stretch but that's not very likely).

What I do like is that our staff has recognized that we will have a scoring void to fill in our backcourt(and on our roster as a whole) next year and they are at least making SOME effort to fill that hole. Is 1 recruit going to be able do that?  Almost certainly no. A lot of JC kids don't amount to much but did anybody really expect J.P. Olukemi to put up the #'s he has this year? Matt Pressey wasn't a really highly rated recruit but he's stepped in and been a solid contributor at Missouri.

In a perfect world, our staff would have had the foresight to see this problem coming and would have put the hard sell on D'Angelo Harrison, Ryan Boatright, or even a Nurideen Lindsey or we'd be able to jump in the hunt for Trevor Lacey. But obviously it's not perfect. If Jones is the best we can do, then wehy sit there and hold on to the ship when there's a CHANCE, even if minimal, that he could make a difference?

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 11, 2011, 05:04:00 PM
What I do like is that our staff has recognized that we will have a scoring void to fill in our backcourt(and on our roster as a whole) next year and they are at least making SOME effort to fill that hole. Is 1 recruit going to be able do that?  Almost certainly no. A lot of JC kids don't amount to much but did anybody really expect J.P. Olukemi to put up the #'s he has this year? Matt Pressey wasn't a really highly rated recruit but he's stepped in and been a solid contributor at Missouri.

In a perfect world, our staff would have had the foresight to see this problem coming and would have put the hard sell on D'Angelo Harrison, Ryan Boatright, or even a Nurideen Lindsey or we'd be able to jump in the hunt for Trevor Lacey. But obviously it's not perfect. If Jones is the best we can do, then wehy sit there and hold on to the ship when there's a CHANCE, even if minimal, that he could make a difference?

i guess that's where we differ.  kstate doesn't have a void in the backcourt.  they have an overabundance of junior guards.  i don't think this guy (or anyone else) is likely to be better than the guards already in place.  i do not think running off one of the current guards, to replace with this guy (or anyone else) will improve the team.

i discuss running off a guard because the staff is apparently talking about taking both a big and a guard this spring and there is currently just a single open scholarship.  i'm also against filling that ship, fwiw.  it should go to peterson or lawrence for the year, then be filled in 2012.  i'm absolutely against taking an '11 leftover + adding to the mountain of openings to fill in '13 rather than taking more '12s.  but, if they absolutely can't stop themselves from filling the ship this year, a big is more needed than another junior guard.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 11, 2011, 10:42:11 PM
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I'm telling everyone to look out. Gonna be a lot of talent coming out of Florida in the next couple years.. #2012 #2013.

pastrana trying to save the coaching staff from themselves.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 13, 2011, 06:19:44 PM
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Isaih "Snoopy" Jones (Christian Life) commits to U A B. Head coach Mike Davis finally gets a Texas hs grad to commit.

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Correction: Jones' nickname is "Hoopy"
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 14, 2011, 01:35:39 PM
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Jones is now one of the hottest Juco recruits in the country with Kansas State being the latest to offer.  “Yeah, Coach Frank Martin and a couple of his assistants have come in and watched me play.  They came the other night and by halftime they were leaving, and told my head coach they've seen enough and they wanted me,” said Jones.

Jones sports an impressive list of scholarship offers that should do nothing but grow.  "West Virginia, Marquette, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, San Jose State and of course Kansas State."

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news (http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 14, 2011, 01:42:07 PM
Quote
Jones is now one of the hottest Juco recruits in the country with Kansas State being the latest to offer.  “Yeah, Coach Frank Martin and a couple of his assistants have come in and watched me play.  They came the other night and by halftime they were leaving, and told my head coach they've seen enough and they wanted me,” said Jones.

Jones sports an impressive list of scholarship offers that should do nothing but grow.  "West Virginia, Marquette, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, San Jose State and of course Kansas State."

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news (http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news)

I think this is important too. I bet we're telling him he can be the next Pullen.  And if he's good enough, we should be.

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Immediate playing time will be a major factor.  "I'm not sure of where I'm going to visit yet because I'm trying stay focused on our season and get to the tournament. But the schools I will visit will be the schools I feel give me the best chance to come in and play right away,” said Jones.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 14, 2011, 01:44:31 PM
:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 14, 2011, 01:51:30 PM
Quote
Jones is now one of the hottest Juco recruits in the country with Kansas State being the latest to offer.  “Yeah, Coach Frank Martin and a couple of his assistants have come in and watched me play.  They came the other night and by halftime they were leaving, and told my head coach they've seen enough and they wanted me,” said Jones.

Jones sports an impressive list of scholarship offers that should do nothing but grow.  "West Virginia, Marquette, Oklahoma State, Arkansas State, San Jose State and of course Kansas State."

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news (http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=132:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-is-one-of-the-hottest-juco-recruits-in-the-country&catid=35:news)

I think this is important too. I bet we're telling him he can be the next Pullen.  And if he's good enough, we should be.

Quote
Immediate playing time will be a major factor.  "I'm not sure of where I'm going to visit yet because I'm trying stay focused on our season and get to the tournament. But the schools I will visit will be the schools I feel give me the best chance to come in and play right away,” said Jones.


This has to mean a current back court guy is getting run.  Has to.  Has.  To.

The OSU/West Virginia/Marquette offers tell me that this is a kid worth putting an offer out there for.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 14, 2011, 01:54:01 PM
This has to mean a current back court guy is getting run.  Has to.  Has.  To.

The OSU/West Virginia/Marquette offers tell me that this is a kid worth putting an offer out there for.

Yes, but we'll be replacing a JR guard with a JR guard. 

Hopefully its a move that pays off if that's the direction we go.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on February 14, 2011, 01:57:26 PM
Hopefully its a move that pays off if that's the direction we go.

It will not.*
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2011, 02:34:58 PM
The OSU/West Virginia/Marquette offers tell me that this is a kid worth putting an offer out there for.

Those guys "offer" everyone. It's meaningless. Well, at least OSU and Marquette.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 14, 2011, 02:35:47 PM
maybe they'll tell a hs big recruit that he should prep for a year because we need a juco guard since nick williams transferred.




would be great if jones could beat nu at the buzzer in a couple years though.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 14, 2011, 02:36:27 PM
The OSU/West Virginia/Marquette offers tell me that this is a kid worth putting an offer out there for.

Those guys "offer" everyone. It's meaningless. Well, at least OSU and Marquette.

I will take kids with a WVU offer for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on February 14, 2011, 02:37:04 PM
maybe they'll tell a hs big recruit that he should prep for a year because we need a juco guard since nick williams transferred.




would be great if jones could beat nu at the buzzer in a couple years though. 

 :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2011, 02:37:16 PM
maybe they'll tell a hs big recruit that he should prep for a year because we need a juco guard since nick williams transferred.




would be great if jones could beat nu at the buzzer in a couple years though.  

How great would it be if Sampson became our coach and he hit a 3 to send a game into OT? :surprised:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 14, 2011, 02:38:44 PM
The OSU/West Virginia/Marquette offers tell me that this is a kid worth putting an offer out there for.

Those guys "offer" everyone. It's meaningless. Well, at least OSU and Marquette.

west virginia offers a lot of people too.  i think a marq offer means more than an osu offer.  osu may be worse* than baylor.



* - maybe should read "better" instead of "worse".
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2011, 02:39:58 PM
Side note: Buzz Williams is my favorite non-KSU coach.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 14, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
Side note: Buzz Williams is my favorite non-KSU coach.

did you see him sweat through his suit last game?  :eek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on February 14, 2011, 03:48:37 PM
Side note: Buzz Williams is my favorite non-KSU coach.

did you see him sweat through his suit last game?  :eek:

That was pretty weird.

Also, he a has a full head of hair and yet he shaves it like he is bald, which is pretty weird as well imo.

(http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/original700/buzz-williams-2009-11-26-17-10-9.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 14, 2011, 04:23:29 PM
Side note: Buzz Williams is my favorite non-KSU coach.

did you see him sweat through his suit last game?  :eek:

That was pretty weird.

Also, he a has a full head of hair and yet he shaves it like he is bald, which is pretty weird as well imo.

(http://nimg.sulekha.com/sports/original700/buzz-williams-2009-11-26-17-10-9.jpg)

Would take.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 14, 2011, 04:51:20 PM
Would take.

you people are bizarre.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 14, 2011, 04:58:16 PM
Would take.

you people are bizarre.

I would also take Jay Wright, FWIW.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 14, 2011, 05:02:25 PM
Would take.

you people are bizarre.

I would also take Jay Wright, FWIW.

when you email your list of coaching candidates to currie, be sure to attach dax's recruiting hotlist.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 14, 2011, 06:52:18 PM
Would take.

you people are bizarre.

Totally hypothetical.  Not saying I'd fire anyone for him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on February 16, 2011, 04:14:54 PM
MCMW.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/angel_rodriguez_krop_high_bask.php
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 16, 2011, 04:17:48 PM
MCMW.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2011/02/angel_rodriguez_krop_high_bask.php

WW on the ball

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=131.280#bot
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on February 16, 2011, 08:53:43 PM
Would take.

you people are bizarre.

I would also take Jay Wright, FWIW.

when you email your list of coaching candidates to currie, be sure to attach dax's recruiting hotlist.

I have a hotlist . . . :ck:

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 16, 2011, 09:07:49 PM
what about juco trash?

Our man MIR posted this over on GPC, probably needs to be here also

Feast your eyes...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769;_ylt=AjDfzfPdFuEyMeloafX7loRrWpB4

Not really relevant to present day KSU 'cruiting but if you like blasts from the past ...

54. Anthony Downing, preferred walk on for KSU from Atchison a couple years back, resurfaces at Indy CC and apparently has done well there.

139. T-Boyd, about as well traveled as Tyree Evans(without the colorful antecdotes of course), he is putting up some pretty good #'s for San Diego City College this year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on February 17, 2011, 10:33:41 AM
MIR posts over at GPC?  What a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 19, 2011, 11:19:02 PM
Quote
KS JC PG Jeremy Jones will have Bob Huggins, Frank Martin, Jeff Capel and perhaps Herb Sendek on hand to watch him tomorrow.

bossi.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on February 19, 2011, 11:19:52 PM
Quote
KS JC PG Jeremy Jones will have Bob Huggins, Frank Martin, Jeff Capel and perhaps Herb Sendek on hand to watch him tomorrow.

bossi.

geebus.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 20, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
Quote
KS JC PG Jeremy Jones will have Bob Huggins, Frank Martin, Jeff Capel and perhaps Herb Sendek on hand to watch him tomorrow.

bossi.

Quote
Jeremy Jones, PG, Seward Co. will have Bob Huggins, Frank Martin, Jeff Capel and Buzz Williams front and center for his game today.

telep.  looks like sendek won't make it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 20, 2011, 07:08:19 PM
Looks like Jones knew the coaches were there to see him, put up 23 shots with 12 of those being treys, finished w/25 pts, 3 asts, and 5 TO's . Just looking at the box score, it looks like Seward got down big early, so a lot of those attempts may have been in a comeback effort.

http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4211%3Ambb-16-sc-75-dodge-city-93&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 20, 2011, 07:33:48 PM
Juco Junction's #1 recruit in the country, Karron Johnson, no longer heading to OK St. Sounds like an extremely high risk/high reward recruit, I'll bet somebody takes a chance on him, but I'd really surprised if KSU began showing interest in him.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-notebook/article/3542575
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on February 20, 2011, 07:44:43 PM
Juco Junction's #1 recruit in the country, Karron Johnson, no longer heading to OK St. Sounds like an extremely high risk/high reward recruit, I'll bet somebody takes a chance on him, but I'd really surprised if KSU began showing interest in him.

http://newsok.com/oklahoma-state-notebook/article/3542575

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Karron-Johnson-53822 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Karron-Johnson-53822)

Would Take
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: 'taterblast on February 20, 2011, 07:51:03 PM
do want
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on February 20, 2011, 07:53:59 PM
Karron Johnson

Would Take

would not qualify.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 20, 2011, 08:56:47 PM
Looks like Jones knew the coaches were there to see him, put up 23 shots with 12 of those being treys, finished w/25 pts, 3 asts, and 5 TO's . Just looking at the box score, it looks like Seward got down big early, so a lot of those attempts may have been in a comeback effort.

http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4211%3Ambb-16-sc-75-dodge-city-93&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172

Kind of sounds like a Jake clone in terms of production.

I'm obviously not talking about style of play since I've never seen Jones.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on February 20, 2011, 09:09:12 PM
He turns the balls over a lot. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: hatingfrancisco on February 21, 2011, 08:53:11 PM
Looks like Jones knew the coaches were there to see him, put up 23 shots with 12 of those being treys, finished w/25 pts, 3 asts, and 5 TO's . Just looking at the box score, it looks like Seward got down big early, so a lot of those attempts may have been in a comeback effort.

http://www.scccsaints.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4211%3Ambb-16-sc-75-dodge-city-93&catid=221%3AScoreboard&Itemid=172

Kind of sounds like a Jake clone in terms of production.

I'm obviously not talking about style of play since I've never seen Jones.  


I watched this game.  They did get down by a bunch early.  Jones is smooth but didn't play a lick of defense.  He made Dodge's guards look  amazing...  He's almost a Nick Russell Clone.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: tdaver on February 22, 2011, 01:37:53 PM
Seward plays Butler in El Dorado on Saturday night.  Any HBBIQ ICTers want to give us a report?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 24, 2011, 09:06:38 AM
Quote from: Telep
Jeremy Jones had Arizona St, Okie St and Illinois State in as he won conference championship per asst Jay Cyriac. Sun Devils offered

FWIW, Jones had 17 pts, 6 asts, 5 boards, and 6 TO's in a 20+ pt Seward win over Garden City
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 24, 2011, 10:01:22 AM
Quote from: Telep
Jeremy Jones had Arizona St, Okie St and Illinois State in as he won conference championship per asst Jay Cyriac. Sun Devils offered

FWIW, Jones had 17 pts, 6 asts, 5 boards, and 6 TO's in a 20+ pt Seward win over Garden City

I'm torn on this guy.  Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.

Swap him for Myles, sure.  Russell?  Irving?  I don't know.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 24, 2011, 10:03:45 AM
We could swap him for Myles, but I don't see the point. He is Myles 2.0.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on February 24, 2011, 10:10:08 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum
Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.

Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.

Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.

There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 24, 2011, 10:16:18 AM
We could swap him for Myles, but I don't see the point. He is Myles 2.0.

Well, Myles wasn't a scorer in JUCO.  This guy is a 'scorer'.

Myles was a defender/distributor.

Adding him may be as pointless as adding Myles, and that may be what you're talking about.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Wallace on February 24, 2011, 02:50:12 PM
Does anybody know if Gipson visited today?

Edit: Nevermind
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on February 24, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum
Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.

Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.

Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.

There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.



The only reason I won't melt down if we get him is because of the other schools who are recruiting him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on February 24, 2011, 06:17:31 PM
Hannah was pretty good.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Joker on February 25, 2011, 08:15:36 AM
Quote from: Panjandrum
Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.

Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.

Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.

There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.



Massey  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on February 25, 2011, 08:45:44 AM
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/25/2084605/adrian-diaz-has-hml-on-verge-of.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 25, 2011, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum
Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.

Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.

Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.

There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.



Massey  :dunno:

 :facepalm:

My bad.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 25, 2011, 12:45:29 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum
Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.

Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.

Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.

There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.



Massey  :dunno:

 :facepalm:

My bad.

Weren't you the guy that was all pissed off because we weren't putting Richmond on the top 5 all time KSU players list or something?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on February 25, 2011, 12:58:16 PM
Willie Murrell was decent.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 25, 2011, 01:49:18 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum
Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.

Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.

Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.

There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.



Massey  :dunno:

 :facepalm:

My bad.

Weren't you the guy that was all pissed off because we weren't putting Richmond on the top 5 all time KSU players list or something?

Yeah, but I was looking for more recent examples than the late '80s.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on February 26, 2011, 07:49:11 AM
updates posted by the new official EMAW Mom

BigGipFan Cassundra Gipson
“That Gipson is a big body,” Morgan said, “and a tough player.” Star Local News: http://bit.ly/gvuc6D
42 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

BigGipFan Cassundra Gipson
Boys roundup: Seniors lead Cedar Hill past Plano West...KState signee...Gipson scored the first two points on a dunk...http://bit.ly/fBcC9n
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SdK on February 26, 2011, 07:28:27 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum
Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.

Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.

Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.

There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.



Massey  :dunno:

 :facepalm:

My bad.

Weren't you the guy that was all pissed off because we weren't putting Richmond on the top 5 all time KSU players list or something?

David Hoskins???
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on February 26, 2011, 08:30:42 PM
Quote from: Panjandrum
Who was the last JUCO guy out there that was really a 'game changer' for a team.

Dwight Hardy has absolutely been tearing it up at St John's this year(Indian Hills JC, IA), but he didn't really reach the "game changer" status until this year.

Gary Flowers(Chipola JC) has been a CUSA POY type at So Miss.

There's probably a few more examples out there of recent "game changing" JC transfers, but I believe your premise is correct, tough to find a real difference maker from those ranks these days.



Massey  :dunno:

 :facepalm:

My bad.

Weren't you the guy that was all pissed off because we weren't putting Richmond on the top 5 all time KSU players list or something?

David Hoskins???

I count Hoskins as a transfer.  He never played at that JUCO he was at.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EMAWzified on February 27, 2011, 01:57:56 AM
From the past decade (barely) would definitely take another Larry Reid. But I'd rather have another Jake.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wiley on February 27, 2011, 10:46:45 AM
Mario Little might have a pretty solid impact if we he wasn't play on the all NBA +2 white guys team over in Lawrence.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on February 27, 2011, 10:59:00 AM
updates posted by the new official EMAW Mom

BigGipFan Cassundra Gipson
“That Gipson is a big body,” Morgan said, “and a tough player.” Star Local News: http://bit.ly/gvuc6D
42 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

BigGipFan Cassundra Gipson
Boys roundup: Seniors lead Cedar Hill past Plano West...KState signee...Gipson scored the first two points on a dunk...http://bit.ly/fBcC9n

Fatima needs to come and reclaim her throne
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on February 27, 2011, 11:28:20 AM
BigGipFan Cassundra Gipson
“That Gipson is a big body,” Morgan said, “and a tough player.” Star Local News: http://bit.ly/gvuc6D
42 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Quote
Wlves left without O

:horrorsurprise:

They obviously needed a little bit of lefty in their life. :fatty:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 03, 2011, 02:47:27 PM
Djurisic has offers from Arizona St, Utah, and NC St. Visiting NC St this weekend and says he has 1 more visit after that and other schools contacting him right now are KSU, Minnesota, and Texas(sorta).

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1195830
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 03, 2011, 03:06:12 PM
Djurisic has offers from Arizona St, Utah, and NC St. Visiting NC St this weekend and says he has 1 more visit after that and other schools contacting him right now are KSU, Minnesota, and Texas(sorta).

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1195830
 

i hate spring recruiting season under martin.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 03, 2011, 03:36:08 PM
Djurisic has offers from Arizona St, Utah, and NC St. Visiting NC St this weekend and says he has 1 more visit after that and other schools contacting him right now are KSU, Minnesota, and Texas(sorta).

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1195830
 

dubovitsky was kind of fun.

i hate spring recruiting season under martin.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on March 03, 2011, 04:51:31 PM
Djurisic has offers from Arizona St, Utah, and NC St. Visiting NC St this weekend and says he has 1 more visit after that and other schools contacting him right now are KSU, Minnesota, and Texas(sorta).

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1195830
 

dubovitsky was kind of fun.

i hate spring recruiting season under martin.

VD!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: illBisonYourdele on March 06, 2011, 01:30:52 PM

Cedar Hill senior Thomas Gipson ended with 14 points but was mostly stymied with Marcus’ sagging, man-to-man defense which allowed Banyard and 6-8 junior John Malone to rotate covering Cedar Hill’s 6-7 Kansas State signee with Smart dropping back to double-team when Gipson got possession.


http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/high-schools/boys-basketball-news/headlines/20110305-flower-mound-marcus-suffocates-cedar-hill-returns-to-5a-state-tournament.ece
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Tobias on March 06, 2011, 01:33:27 PM
Quote
Wlves left without O

:horrorsurprise:

They obviously needed a little bit of lefty in their life. :fatty:

 :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on March 06, 2011, 09:06:58 PM
we've asked for anthony hubbard's transcripts
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 06, 2011, 09:19:06 PM
we've asked for anthony hubbard's transcripts

Quote
Hubbard spent three years and 11 months incarcerated after a robbery arrest when he was 17. He's run out of second chances.

http://iowa.scout.com/2/1053731.html (http://iowa.scout.com/2/1053731.html)

 :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 06, 2011, 09:21:57 PM
we've asked for anthony hubbard's transcripts

good info.  also lol @ kstate spring recruiting and lol @ how old he is.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 06, 2011, 09:26:30 PM
Anthony Hubbard:

20 ppg
10 rpg
4 apg
1 spg

http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590 (http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 06, 2011, 09:31:01 PM
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590 (http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590)

looks like he can't shoot 3s.  no thanks.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 06, 2011, 09:31:40 PM
Kansas.com blogging on Region VI tournament.  Tidbits about Jeremy Jones.

http://blogs.kansas.com/statecolleges/ (http://blogs.kansas.com/statecolleges/)

Quote
Seward 71, Cowley 67 FINAL Cowley led 37-32 at halftime. Jones was amazing … scored game-winner on breakaway layup with 19 seconds left and led all scorers with 29 points.

Quote
Seward County 83, Kansas City Kansas 67 FINAL Seward led 39-36 at halftime.  Jeremy Jones leads Saints into semifinals with 26 points on 9 of 21 shooting.

Huggins apparently sent Erik Martin to the semifinal game against Cowley.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 06, 2011, 09:34:24 PM
http://www.wvillustrated.com/wvubasketball/story/id/817 (http://www.wvillustrated.com/wvubasketball/story/id/817)

Additional writeup on Jones from WVU site.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 07, 2011, 08:57:46 AM
http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590 (http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590)

looks like he can't shoot 3s.  no thanks.

I'm going to assume he's a contingency plan if Jones decides to go somewhere else.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 07, 2011, 10:03:20 AM
Looks like Jones outplayed Iowa St. signee Tyrus McGee. Can't say he shot it real well from the floor, but he got to the line a lot and capitalized there.

http://www.kjccc.org/basketball/1011/M_Region_Seward-Cowley.HTML

Wichita area EMAW'rs, Seward vs. Coffeyville tonight at "new" roundhouse tonight at 8, winner advances to NJCAA tourney next week in Hutch.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 07, 2011, 11:55:24 AM
Per this recent update from Iowa Scout site, Hubbard has offers from Iowa, Rutgers, Penn St, Iona. Update alludes to KSU "indicating they will offer" and interest from Louisville.

http://iowa.scout.com/2/1053731.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on March 07, 2011, 01:59:49 PM
Per this recent update from Iowa Scout site, Hubbard has offers from Iowa, Rutgers, Penn St, Iona. Update alludes to KSU "indicating they will offer" and interest from Louisville.

http://iowa.scout.com/2/1053731.html
he is almost as old as Drunky Morningtard.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 07, 2011, 02:00:43 PM
Per this recent update from Iowa Scout site, Hubbard has offers from Iowa, Rutgers, Penn St, Iona. Update alludes to KSU "indicating they will offer" and interest from Louisville.

http://iowa.scout.com/2/1053731.html
he is almost as old as Drunky Morningtard.

In all fairness, I think he was incarcerated for at least three years.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 07, 2011, 04:11:03 PM
Anyone here employed in the criminal justice system or a penitentiary?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 07, 2011, 08:09:52 PM
A writeup on Jones' performance in the semis.

http://www.swdtimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4117:jones-steals-the-show&catid=13:local-sports&Itemid=41 (http://www.swdtimes.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4117:jones-steals-the-show&catid=13:local-sports&Itemid=41)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 07, 2011, 09:39:04 PM
Anthony Hubbard:

20 ppg
10 rpg
4 apg
1 spg

http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590 (http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1676&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=104128&athleteid=315590)

Quote from: Anthony "Shawshank" Hubbard
I have a lot of interest in Kansas State. Nobody in the nation would not have interest in them if they were interested in you. That is one of the top programs in the nation and they have some great coaches there. Coach Matt Figger is the coach recruiting me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Scary Smart on March 07, 2011, 09:42:32 PM
OMG MCMW  :excited:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on March 07, 2011, 10:13:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er78kalr0MA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er78kalr0MA)

 :alleyoop:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: J on March 07, 2011, 11:07:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er78kalr0MA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er78kalr0MA)

 :alleyoop:
:love: :love: :love: :crossfingers: :crossfingers: :crossfingers:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Joker on March 08, 2011, 08:01:11 AM
Quote from: Anthony "Shawshank" Hubbard
I have a lot of interest in Kansas State. Nobody in the nation would not have interest in them if they were interested in you. That is one of the top programs in the nation and they have some great coaches there. Coach Matt Figger is the coach recruiting me.


Sweet redemption.

That's what being America's team is all about.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on March 08, 2011, 08:17:45 AM
this Hubbard guy sounds dreamy  :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on March 08, 2011, 08:20:11 AM
how much eligibility?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 08, 2011, 08:32:50 AM
how much eligibility?

All indications at this point are that Hubbard has 3 to play 2.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: gowildcatwildcat on March 08, 2011, 08:35:53 AM
how much eligibility?

5-10   :blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 08, 2011, 10:34:39 AM
Transfer/Post-Incarceration U   :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Mixed-Nutz on March 08, 2011, 08:17:31 PM
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DaveTelep
Finalists for Seward JC PG Jeremy Jones: Arizona State, K-State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Houston, S. Fla, Arkansas State.
:gocho:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on March 08, 2011, 08:25:26 PM
I got money on Arkansas St as Jones' destination
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 08, 2011, 08:35:55 PM
I got money on Arkansas St as Jones' destination

Hard to turn down the allure of Jonesboro.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 08, 2011, 09:44:29 PM
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DaveTelep
Finalists for Seward JC PG Jeremy Jones: Arizona State, K-State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Houston, S. Fla, Arkansas State.
:gocho:


one tourney team.  smoke & mirrors recruiting.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2011, 09:51:58 PM
Quote
DaveTelep
Finalists for Seward JC PG Jeremy Jones: Arizona State, K-State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Houston, S. Fla, Arkansas State.
:gocho:


one tourney team.  smoke & mirrors recruiting.

who is the last BCS tourney team frank beat for a recruit? :dunno:  WVU for Judge?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on March 08, 2011, 09:53:14 PM
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DaveTelep
Finalists for Seward JC PG Jeremy Jones: Arizona State, K-State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Houston, S. Fla, Arkansas State.
:gocho:


one tourney team.  smoke & mirrors recruiting.
So you think OU's Big 12 title run this weekend is going to knock KSU out of the tournament?  Weird.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 08, 2011, 09:54:33 PM
who is the last BCS tourney team frank beat for a recruit? :dunno:  WVU for Judge?

louisvillle.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 08, 2011, 09:55:04 PM
who is the last BCS tourney team frank beat for a recruit? :dunno:  WVU for Judge?

louisvillle.

dammit. good one.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 08, 2011, 09:56:07 PM
So you think OU's Big 12 title run this weekend is going to knock KSU out of the tournament?  Weird.

wouldn't it be great if they went on a great run in kc and saved capel's job?  you should add your prayers into the mix.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on March 10, 2011, 09:14:16 AM
So you think OU's Big 12 title run this weekend is going to knock KSU out of the tournament?  Weird.

wouldn't it be great if they went on a great run in kc and saved capel's job?  you should add your prayers into the mix.

yeah, all for capel at this point.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Belvis Noland on March 10, 2011, 10:01:29 AM

who is the last BCS tourney team frank beat for a recruit? :dunno:  WVU for Judge?

WVU, Baylor, OSU, Cal, Iowa for Thomas Gipson. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on March 10, 2011, 10:24:38 AM

who is the last BCS tourney team frank beat for a recruit? :dunno:  WVU for Judge?

WVU, Baylor, OSU, Cal, Iowa for Thomas Gipson. 

sys is right, the latest was louisville for ar-t.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 12, 2011, 12:13:47 PM
Hubbard article.

I don't know.  Call me crazy, but I get a good vibe about this guy.  It's weird saying that because of his past, but I do.

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114 (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 12, 2011, 03:14:07 PM
Hubbard article.

I don't know.  Call me crazy, but I get a good vibe about this guy.  It's weird saying that because of his past, but I do.

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114 (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114)

i notice that article doesn't mention his jumpshot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 12, 2011, 04:08:47 PM
Hubbard article.

I don't know.  Call me crazy, but I get a good vibe about this guy.  It's weird saying that because of his past, but I do.

http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114 (http://www.fredericknewspost.com/sections/sports/display.htm?StoryID=118114)

i notice that article doesn't mention his jumpshot.

Character piece.

He shot 64% from the field this year.   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 12, 2011, 04:30:38 PM
He shot 64% from the field this year.   :dunno:

64% = within 5 feet of the basket.  his 3 point % and # of attempts indicate that he can't shoot.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 12, 2011, 04:33:19 PM
hubbard a back up for jones?  terrible plan b.  worse than holding a scholarship.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 12, 2011, 09:25:12 PM
He shot 64% from the field this year.   :dunno:

64% = within 5 feet of the basket.  his 3 point % and # of attempts indicate that he can't shoot.

I've never seen the guy play.  I have no idea what his skill set is.  His overall numbers looked pretty good (20 pts, 10 rebs, 4 assts), and given what he went through to get to this point, it looks like the guy is someone who would work to make the most of an opportunity given to him.

If his measurements are somewhat accurate, I think we'd be bringing him in as more of a David Hoskins type than an actual perimeter threat.  The guy was locked up for four years, so I'm going to assume he has the mental toughness to survive playing for Frank Martin that some of our recent bigs have lacked.  The fact that he averages ten boards a game tells me that he's not afraid to get inside and mix it up, which we'll obviously need next year since we're going to be somewhat short on bigs.

So, I don't think we're recruiting Hubbard to be a like-for-like replacement for Jones.  I think the staff probably evaluated both, they probably like something about both, and they probably want Jones more.  If they have an open scholarship assuming Jones turns them down, I wouldn't be surprised if Hubbard gets a call.

Or, Hell, we could end up taking both if one or two of our current juniors bail.  Who knows?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 12, 2011, 10:35:53 PM
If his measurements are somewhat accurate, I think we'd be bringing him in as more of a David Hoskins type than an actual perimeter threat.  The guy was locked up for four years, so I'm going to assume he has the mental toughness to survive playing for Frank Martin that some of our recent bigs have lacked.  The fact that he averages ten boards a game tells me that he's not afraid to get inside and mix it up, which we'll obviously need next year since we're going to be somewhat short on bigs.

i think you're right - he's likely an undersized hybrid forward or a poor shooting, big wing type.  recruited as a best available rather than out of need.

still, with mcgruder, southwell, williams, ojeleye & lawrence already in, he seems extremely redundant.  you could actually toss samuels into that mix too.  sometimes the best available philosophy doesn't make a lot of sense.  especially when you have to take a 'ship away from someone (or not award a 'ship to someone) already on the team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 13, 2011, 01:53:45 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6212623 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6212623)


What will happen to these guys?

 http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2011/arkansas-74;_ylt=AqIZ9UajgfYzPIzpTrvSQQ7VO5B4  (http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2011/arkansas-74;_ylt=AqIZ9UajgfYzPIzpTrvSQQ7VO5B4)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on March 13, 2011, 01:58:59 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6212623 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6212623)


What will happen to these guys?

 http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2011/arkansas-74;_ylt=AqIZ9UajgfYzPIzpTrvSQQ7VO5B4  (http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2011/arkansas-74;_ylt=AqIZ9UajgfYzPIzpTrvSQQ7VO5B4)

anderson or whoever probably keeps most of them.  also 3/5 are from AR, and 0/5 have significant KSU interest. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 13, 2011, 02:43:03 PM
anderson or whoever probably keeps most of them.  also 3/5 are from AR. 

seems like twitter opinion mostly agrees with this, if they get a hire done reasonably quickly.  btw, bossi floated a list of candidates heavy with big 12 names.

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Early Hawgs wishlist names getting floated include Mark Turgeon, Mike Anderson, Buzz Williams, Frank Martin, Tim Floyd, B. Gillespie.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EMAWzified on March 13, 2011, 05:55:31 PM
Why not target O'Neal of USC. He's going nowhere in a football school in UCLA's shadow.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 13, 2011, 09:14:29 PM
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5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 13, 2011, 09:54:57 PM
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5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419

In all seriousness, just don't rough ridin' run people off, frank.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 13, 2011, 10:16:09 PM
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5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419

In all seriousness, just don't effing run people off, frank.

this.  i'll lose it if russell leaves.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on March 13, 2011, 11:52:11 PM
Quote
5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419

In all seriousness, just don't effing run people off, frank.

this.  i'll lose it if russell leaves.

No crap
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 13, 2011, 11:54:29 PM
Quote
5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419

In all seriousness, just don't effing run people off, frank.

this.  i'll lose it if russell leaves.

I want him to stay too, but you "losing it" is no ones barometer of what is good and what isn't.  You're a drama queen, you'd lose it if Myles left
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 14, 2011, 06:17:42 AM
Quote
5. Kansas State Wildcats
What they're losing: Frank Martin has the unenviable job of finding a replacement for Jacob Pullen. He embodied Martin's toughness and tone for the program. These guys aren't recruited, they evolve and that's what makes replacing them so difficult.
What they're adding: Martin has toughness in forward Thomas Gipson (Cedar Hill, Texas/Cedar Hill) and length in Adrian Diaz (Miami, Fla./Hialeah Lakes) locked for the frontline. His new point guard is a kid who believes in himself, can score and hails from Martin's sweet spot: Miami. Angel Rodriguez, from Dr. Krop, is wired up just how Martin likes his players and there's a chip on his shoulder.
What it equals: The loss of Pullen is significant enough that it'll have an effect on the team, but the hope is that it doesn't change the culture. Rodney McGruder's role will expand and Kansas State's toughness should help it stay on the course Martin's laid for it. K-State is at the point where older players should be able to step into larger roles and if one of the three recruits can step up, the Wildcats' winning ways will continue.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6213419

In all seriousness, just don't effing run people off, frank.

this.  i'll lose it if russell leaves.

I want him to stay too, but you "losing it" is no ones barometer of what is good and what isn't.  You're a drama queen, you'd lose it if Myles left

how's the testicle?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 14, 2011, 09:31:02 AM
this.  i'll lose it if russell leaves.

Would you really lose it if Russell left?  Really?

JHR and Ojeleye have a higher ORtg than he does.  Irving has a higher eFG%, as do the majority of our other guards and forwards.  And his TO% is on par with Kelly, and his A/TO ratio is pretty subpar.

I guess a few people remember the two or three games he shot really well and think he's a lot better than he really is.   I guess I fail to see how Jones from Seward wouldn't be an equal option, and considering Jones has some experience being the man beyond high school, how that intangible wouldn't be better than Russell's experience sitting on the bench for two years.

I mean, if we keep Russell, fine.  I hope he gets off the bench, gets better on defense, and he stops turning the ball over so much.  Otherwise, he can go play at some C-USA or MAC school and we can replace him with a JUCO guy that may actually spend less than 89% of his time in the coach's doghouse.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2011, 09:40:48 AM
I guess I fail to see how Jones from Seward wouldn't be an equal option, and considering Jones has some experience being the man beyond high school, how that intangible wouldn't be better than Russell's experience sitting on the bench for two years.

Have you seen Frank's juco guard recruits?

I'd take someone that has been in the program for two years but may be average at best offensively over Jeudre Gilwaji any day of the week.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 14, 2011, 09:43:01 AM
guys we need scorers.  we need them bad.  russell has shown he can score at times.  frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2011, 09:50:10 AM
guys we need scorers.  we need them bad.  russell has shown he can score at times.  frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)

I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2011, 10:04:07 AM
guys we need scorers.  we need them bad.  russell has shown he can score at times.  frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)

I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.

well christ, run everyone off, then. We're all rough ridin' set. :cool:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 14, 2011, 10:04:13 AM
guys we need scorers.  we need them bad.  russell has shown he can score at times.  frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)

I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.

It absolutely kills me, but I agree on keeping nick for now.  Peterson only has one year left.  Nick has two.  If we were to run anyone, it would have to be Myles at this point, and the kid coming in would have to be very close to a guarantee that he would get minutes and get buckets, and I just don't see thats happening.

Best case scenario would be if Nick stays and learns to stop being a FP,TC, etc over the off season and also learns to stop rough ridin' up on the court so often.  The problem is that the likelihood of this happening is only a hair higher than finding a get-buckets transfer.  

Doesn't look good either way at this point, but you gotta ride the best odds you get.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on March 14, 2011, 10:06:13 AM
guys we need scorers.  we need them bad.  russell has shown he can score at times.  frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)

I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.

well christ, run everyone off, then. We're all rough ridin' set. :cool:

I don't want him run off the team, but it's not worth melting down over if he is.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 14, 2011, 10:06:26 AM
guys we need scorers.  we need them bad.  russell has shown he can score at times.  frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)

I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.

Nick is much better at penetrating than Sprads, and similar size. Though not as quick as 95, he is going to be a better scorer in the lane b/c he has more length.

I agree that keeping Nick would be much better than taking a flyer on Shawshank or Jones.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 14, 2011, 11:09:20 AM
guys we need scorers.  we need them bad.  russell has shown he can score at times.  frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)

I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.
:powerespect:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on March 14, 2011, 11:18:33 AM
WGAF if Nick is here or gone next year...I mean really?  Meltdown over a good scorer who plays subpar defense and continually makes horrendous decisions at key times?  There's a reason the kid can't get off the bench, don't kid yourselves thinking you see something in him that will make him a key contributor next year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 14, 2011, 12:11:09 PM
WGAF if Nick is here or gone next year...I mean really?  Meltdown over a good scorer who plays subpar defense and continually makes horrendous decisions at key times?  There's a reason the kid can't get off the bench, don't kid yourselves thinking you see something in him that will make him a key contributor next year.

I think everyone would prefer Nick stay because he does have potential, and you don't want to lose a kid who has shown a nice ceiling.  Especially when he's been in your program for two years.

On the other hand, I don't think losing him would be a huge loss because, frankly, when you look at his kenpom numbers, they look marginally worse than other players in the freshman/sophomore class.  He is obviously talented, but his issue appears to be mental in nature, and that, obviously, is the most difficult to correct.  His high turnover ratio, especially for a guard, is very concerning.

Anyway, I hope he stays, but my gut says he's going to leave, and I'm not going to freak out about it because something tells me he's not mentally there to handle playing high level D1 ball.  But, that's just an opinion.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 14, 2011, 12:16:28 PM
guys we need scorers.  we need them bad.  russell has shown he can score at times.  frank is just going to have to swallow his pride and play him (though I bet he doesn't....because he's a dumbass)

I think Spradling and Peterson both are just as good as scoring as Russell.

Nick is much better at penetrating than Sprads, and similar size. Though not as quick as 95, he is going to be a better scorer in the lane b/c he has more length.

I agree that keeping Nick would be much better than taking a flyer on Shawshank or Jones.

PFFTTT  :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 14, 2011, 12:19:49 PM
I kinda want Shawshank.

Talk about jumping into MCMW with both feet.

Also, the nickname would be the best on the team. 

Can he dance?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EMAWzified on March 14, 2011, 02:15:51 PM
So OU commit Robert Golf, 6-9 center at Hutch Juco, any good?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 14, 2011, 02:21:54 PM
On the other hand, I don't think losing him would be a huge loss because, frankly, when you look at his kenpom numbers, they look marginally worse than other players in the freshman/sophomore class. 

None of the players Frank have run off have been "huge losses" when you look at them individually, but when you look at them overall, they make up a big hit on the program. This trend of replacing 3 star juniors with 3 star freshmen/shitty jucos just isn't a good formula for creating a winning program when you can't beat tourney teams for recruits.

I mean, I hate Irving more than any player in the Frank era but even I don't see the point of running him off. Sure, he's not all-league, but he will be a hell of a lot more successful playing FrankBall than anyone Frank could possibly bring in the spring.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 14, 2011, 02:44:28 PM
Jones reportedly taking unofficial to Manhappenin today.

http://twitter.com/cavwalsh#
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 14, 2011, 05:49:27 PM
None of the players Frank have run off have been "huge losses" when you look at them individually, but when you look at them overall, they make up a big hit on the program. This trend of replacing 3 star juniors with 3 star freshmen/shitty jucos just isn't a good formula for creating a winning program when you can't beat tourney teams for recruits.

I mean, I hate Irving more than any player in the Frank era but even I don't see the point of running him off. Sure, he's not all-league, but he will be a hell of a lot more successful playing FrankBall than anyone Frank could possibly bring in the spring.

well said.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 14, 2011, 06:52:39 PM
On the other hand, I don't think losing him would be a huge loss because, frankly, when you look at his kenpom numbers, they look marginally worse than other players in the freshman/sophomore class. 

None of the players Frank have run off have been "huge losses" when you look at them individually, but when you look at them overall, they make up a big hit on the program. This trend of replacing 3 star juniors with 3 star freshmen/cacty jucos just isn't a good formula for creating a winning program when you can't beat tourney teams for recruits.

I mean, I hate Irving more than any player in the Frank era but even I don't see the point of running him off. Sure, he's not all-league, but he will be a hell of a lot more successful playing FrankBall than anyone Frank could possibly bring in the spring.

this.  it isn't like we're going to run off irving/russell for some top 25/50 recruit.  we're going to run russell/irving off and pick up another russell/irving or some juco guy or someone worse.  I kinda wish that frank would have a discussion with turgeon on roster management.  a&m is the model, imo (sans the awful scheduling and offensive philosophy).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on March 14, 2011, 08:34:38 PM
On the other hand, I don't think losing him would be a huge loss because, frankly, when you look at his kenpom numbers, they look marginally worse than other players in the freshman/sophomore class. 

None of the players Frank have run off have been "huge losses" when you look at them individually, but when you look at them overall, they make up a big hit on the program. This trend of replacing 3 star juniors with 3 star freshmen/shitty jucos just isn't a good formula for creating a winning program when you can't beat tourney teams for recruits.

I mean, I hate Irving more than any player in the Frank era but even I don't see the point of running him off. Sure, he's not all-league, but he will be a hell of a lot more successful playing FrankBall than anyone Frank could possibly bring in the spring.

So you'd rather have a perennial bench dweller who might see minutes every fifth game if he happens to pull his head out of his ass and perform in practice than a wild card juco player who may or may not pan out?  Just curious.  I'm not saying I like a revolving door but when a kid consistently shows that he's not willig to do what it takes to see the floor, than he may as well be shown the door.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 14, 2011, 08:41:15 PM
So you'd rather have a perennial bench dweller who might see minutes every fifth game if he happens to pull his head out of his ass and perform in practice than a wild card juco player who may or may not pan out?

correct.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 14, 2011, 09:18:35 PM
Quote
ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Cezar Guerrero has committed to Oklahoma State.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on March 14, 2011, 09:27:17 PM
Didn't know KSU was recruiting Cezar
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on March 14, 2011, 09:28:42 PM
Didn't know KSU was recruiting Cezar

they weren't. some tard wanted him bad or something.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on March 14, 2011, 10:05:59 PM
Didn't know KSU was recruiting Cezar

they weren't. some tard wanted him bad or something.
You be nice to Capel with the name calling, he was recently fired. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 14, 2011, 10:43:57 PM
Quote
ebosshoops Eric Bossi
Cezar Guerrero has committed to Oklahoma State.

jfc.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 15, 2011, 01:31:07 PM
A quick stop in, nothing has changed, shitty as ever.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 15, 2011, 04:01:52 PM
A couple of recruits we were in contact with as recently as last fall but haven't seen anything connecting them to KSU lately, Todd Mayo(6'3" combo G, Notre Dame Prep in MA) and Carlos Emory(6'6" combo F Howard JC in TX) have made commitments. Mayo to Marquette and Emory to Oregon. We'll see how Buzz's potential matriculation may affect Mayo.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 15, 2011, 04:05:55 PM
According to poster on GPC, Djurisic spotted on visit to KSU today.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 15, 2011, 04:21:13 PM
According to poster on GPC, Djurisic spotted on visit to KSU today.

Are the coaches and players still in Manhattan?   :ck:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 15, 2011, 04:24:40 PM
Apparently, coaches still were this morning. Regarding travel itinerary, I have no clue, but using my extremely low NCAATIIQ, I'd think the whole crew would want to head out by at least tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EllToPay on March 15, 2011, 04:26:02 PM
Apparently, coaches still were this morning. Regarding travel itinerary, I have no clue, but using my extremely low NCAATIIQ, I'd think the whole crew would want to head out by at least tomorrow.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4420
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 15, 2011, 04:31:43 PM
Apparently, coaches still were this morning. Regarding travel itinerary, I have no clue, but using my extremely low NCAATIIQ, I'd think the whole crew would want to head out by at least tomorrow.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAY4420

ETP, your contribution to this thread has been invaluable, looks like smooth sailing for the KSU Cats  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 15, 2011, 05:22:33 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 15, 2011, 05:31:20 PM
MBB: K-State has arrived in sunny and warm Tucson to continue preparation with Thursday's game with Utah State
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 15, 2011, 07:05:00 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.

:lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 15, 2011, 07:45:14 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.

:lol:

the funny part isn't ku tossing offers around as if they were baylor, the funny part is the ku posters that still think their bigs are all returning.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 15, 2011, 07:53:39 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.

:lol:

the funny part isn't ku tossing offers around as if they were baylor, the funny part is the ku posters that still think their bigs are all returning.

Withey's coming back.   :dunno:








pfffffffft    :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on March 15, 2011, 09:49:00 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.

:slowclap:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 16, 2011, 07:25:01 AM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Kansas has offered 2011 JUCO big man Stan Simpson, according to @KUTheShiver.

:lol:

 :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 16, 2011, 12:53:25 PM
Couple new names:

Matt Glover  6'4" 195 combo G, Sheridan JC(WY), FR yr stats don't really jump out at you, team was 24-10.

http://www.njcaa.org/colleges_college_player.cfm?sid=4&collegeid=1628&category=Roster&slid=2&teamid=109337&athleteid=312170

"The schools now showing interest besides Iowa include Rutgers, Nebraska, South Carolina, Kansas State, Utah State, Idaho, Long Beach State, and Hawaii.

Glover has a visit tentatively set up to Utah State next week, pending their performance in the NCAA Tournament this week."

(Profile says class of '12 and he has only played 1 yr of JC ball, but he has qualified academically and is eligible to go DI next yr with 3 yrs remaining)
http://iowa.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1200821
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 16, 2011, 12:59:39 PM
Other new name is 6'4" 190 SG/SF Dante Holmes
Originally from Baltimore, signed w/Marshall, failed to qualify and resurfaced and reclassified at Oldsmar Christian in Orlando, FL. averaged 21 pts, 8 rebs, 5 asts while shooting 43% from 3 this past yr, also receiving heavy interest from Boston College, LaSalle, and St. Bonaventure

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Dante-Holmes-84332
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 16, 2011, 01:13:01 PM
do not want (any of them)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 16, 2011, 01:17:06 PM
for the people don't understand why running off russell is a completely f'ing stupid idea, please read the crappy juco updates.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 16, 2011, 01:22:32 PM
I probably didn't make this clear enough but Holmes isn't a JC, Oldsmar Christian is an HS. Sounds like he's really improved his shooting ability from deep but tough to say what his ceiling may be based on the little info we have on him, not exactly battling heavyweights for his services.

Glover, yeah, he seems like a reach, interest from KSU appears to be cursory right now, hopefully backup backup backup plan.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Lefty on March 16, 2011, 01:43:35 PM
Based solely on their respective photos, they do not fit our criteria. Not even close. They'd be great Missouri fits.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 16, 2011, 01:45:28 PM
so, in summary, after seeing the profile of the jucos and HS recruit, feel free to melt down if Nick Russell gets run off.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 16, 2011, 02:05:55 PM
Based solely on their respective photos, they do not fit our criteria. Not even close. They'd be great Missouri fits.

Holmes looked much better in his earlier pictures (now looks like a crack head (NOT RACIST))
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 16, 2011, 03:36:38 PM
so, in summary, after seeing the profile of the jucos and HS recruit, feel free to melt down if Nick Russell gets run off.

Of all of the names thrown out there, I'd be okay with maybe two of them (depending on who they replace), and really quite disturbed with the rest.

I'm on the "keep Nick happy" bandwagon at this point.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2011, 04:01:00 PM
Shawshank would make for fun message boarding for awhile.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 16, 2011, 04:35:23 PM
Djurisic down to 4: KSU, Arizona St, Georgia, and E. Carolina, will decide on Friday, if any of you Insiders out there want to share the rest of the content of the blog(if it's at all relevant/informative), I don't think you will offend anyone around here.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=laplante_mike&id=6224609&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fblog%3fname%3dlaplante_mike%26id%3d6224609
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 16, 2011, 04:36:58 PM
Djurisic down to 4: KSU, Arizona St, Georgia, and E. Carolina, will decide on Friday, if any of you Insiders out there want to share the rest of the content of the blog(if it's at all relevant/informative), I don't think you will offend anyone around here.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=laplante_mike&id=6224609&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fblog%3fname%3dlaplante_mike%26id%3d6224609

What are we going to do with a white Euroballer?  Don't we already have two white kids? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 16, 2011, 04:38:10 PM
Djurisic down to 4: KSU, Arizona St, Georgia, and E. Carolina, will decide on Friday, if any of you Insiders out there want to share the rest of the content of the blog(if it's at all relevant/informative), I don't think you will offend anyone around here.

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=laplante_mike&id=6224609&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fblog%3fname%3dlaplante_mike%26id%3d6224609

I think he is from the same high school as Omari, could this help our chances any?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 16, 2011, 04:39:17 PM
Djurisic down to 4: KSU, Arizona St, Georgia, and E. Carolina, will decide on Friday.

tourney team!


if kstate loses to wisconsin or belmont, i'm going to blame 100% of it on our Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) staff recruiting these spring bandaids rather than prepping for the games.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on March 16, 2011, 05:32:55 PM
Quote
The ruggedly built Djurisic is a typical European power forward with a good basketball IQ who has the ability to stretch the defense out to the 3-point line. He caught a lot of people's attention with a good game in a head-to-head match-up against ESPN's No. 1-rated 2012 prospect Andre Drummond.

Hey ESPN, you aren't going to real me in with that one.

I remember the story of Marcelo Da Barrosa holding his own against Tyson Chandler all too well...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: beserkr29 on March 16, 2011, 07:42:07 PM
Key phrase was "How the coach communicates with his players."  The furriner isn't coming here.  Frank's not a touchy-feely guy.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 16, 2011, 11:36:38 PM
Key phrase was "How the coach communicates with his players."  The furriner isn't coming here.  Frank's not a touchy-feely guy.

Frank's message is usually pretty clear.  Maybe the kid prefers blunt honesty?

The message didn't say how he wanted the communication delivered.  He just said it was important.  He may like being screamed at for all we know.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: beserkr29 on March 18, 2011, 07:46:34 AM
Anyone know when Djurisic is supposed to announce his choice today?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 18, 2011, 03:45:58 PM
Quote
So far, Missouri State, South Dakota State and North Dakota State have made offers. Iowa, Kansas State, Boston College, Clemson and several other programs in the Missouri Valley, Conference USA and the Horizon League have showed varying levels of interest.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1201876

wesley washpun.  he's from iowa.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 18, 2011, 04:12:03 PM
Anyone know when Djurisic is supposed to announce his choice today?

"I don't know if it will be tomorrow(as in Friday, today) but it will be in the next few days," Djurisic said. "The schools I'm still considering are Arizona State, Kansas State, Georgia and East Carolina."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1201699
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 18, 2011, 04:16:50 PM
Anyone know when Djurisic is supposed to announce his choice today?

"I don't know if it will be tomorrow(as in Friday, today) but it will be in the next few days," Djurisic said. "The schools I'm still considering are Arizona State, Kansas State, Georgia and East Carolina."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1201699


 :jerk:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 18, 2011, 04:19:43 PM
Thanks for that, you really contributed a lot there.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Jackie Moon on March 19, 2011, 11:43:08 AM
kind of want Djurisic.  :dunno: Not sure why
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 19, 2011, 01:53:56 PM
kind of want Djurisic.  :dunno: Not sure why

I'd rather get Wally back, but it sounds like he's one of the better remaining posts out there.  I wouldn't lose it over him.

Sounds like a decently skilled grinder with a jump shot.  He has a lot of points deducted for lack of overall athleticism.  At least that's what I get from what's out there in terms of scouting reports.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 20, 2011, 08:49:03 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 PF Nemanja Djurisic of South Kent (CT) chose Georgia over Arizona State, Kansas State, NC State, Utah & ECU.

 :emawkid:  (emawkid is not sarcastic).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 20, 2011, 08:56:54 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 PF Nemanja Djurisic of South Kent (CT) chose Georgia over Arizona State, Kansas State, NC State, Utah & ECU.

 :emawkid:  (emawkid is not sarcastic).

Wally coming back?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 20, 2011, 09:04:10 PM
Wally coming back?   :dunno:

don't care.  just didn't like this dude.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 20, 2011, 10:08:54 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
2011 PF Nemanja Djurisic of South Kent (CT) chose Georgia over Arizona State, Kansas State, NC State, Utah & ECU.

 :emawkid:  (emawkid is not sarcastic).

best news of the day.  good to know the euro speaks dumbstick.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 22, 2011, 01:07:01 PM
Quote from: Hoopniks
6'-0" Northeastern JC (CO) PG Widgett Washington committed to Toledo after a weekend trip. Early all-name team candidate. Native of KC.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 22, 2011, 01:39:41 PM
Quote
goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Two more guys to throw on the transfer list: South Carolina sophomore guards Ramon Galloway and Stephen Spinella.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 22, 2011, 08:33:22 PM
Quote from: Hoopniks
6'-0" Northeastern JC (CO) PG Widgett Washington committed to Toledo after a weekend trip. Early all-name team candidate. Native of KC.

would have liked to have been able to follow his recruitment more.  godspeed, widgett.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 10:12:26 AM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Wake Forest has granted sophomore forward Ari Stewart his release from the basketball program, per the Salisbury Post.

transfer pool is filling up.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on March 23, 2011, 10:14:42 AM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Wake Forest has granted sophomore forward Ari Stewart his release from the basketball program, per the Salisbury Post.

transfer pool is filling up.

 :horrorsurprise:  Who recruited him for us?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 10:16:14 AM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Wake Forest has granted sophomore forward Ari Stewart his release from the basketball program, per the Salisbury Post.

transfer pool is filling up.

 :horrorsurprise:  Who recruited him for us?

Not saying we are looking at him, I am saying that the quantity of kids looking to transfer out of their current sitch is increasing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on March 23, 2011, 10:22:37 AM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
Wake Forest has granted sophomore forward Ari Stewart his release from the basketball program, per the Salisbury Post.

transfer pool is filling up.

 :horrorsurprise:  Who recruited him for us?

Not saying we are looking at him, I am saying that the quantity of kids looking to transfer out of their current sitch is increasing.


He had a ksu offer in hs.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 23, 2011, 10:23:24 AM
Not saying we are looking at him, I am saying that the quantity of kids looking to transfer out of their current sitch is increasing.

kstate did recruit him, presumably hill.  but his numbers have been crap at wake on a crap team.  he was a little better as a freshman, but i'd pass.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on March 23, 2011, 12:32:17 PM
CK's numbers were awful shitty at UConn.  :ck:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 23, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
CK's numbers were awful shitty at UConn.  :ck:

kelly didn't play; good team.  stewart started, didn't produce; horrible team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on March 23, 2011, 01:21:14 PM
Obviously the situations were different, I was just pointing out that a change of scenery can be beneficial to certain guys.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 23, 2011, 04:27:52 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
With Missouri coach Mike Anderson leaving for Arkansas, this leaves unsigned 2011 forward Otto Porter in a strange situation...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 23, 2011, 04:48:25 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
With Missouri coach Mike Anderson leaving for Arkansas, this leaves unsigned 2011 forward Otto Porter in a strange situation...

ku fan on nat'l board was all  :excited: about Porter reportedly planning to take an official there, Bossi replied and basically said, Porter is real close to family and still thinks Missouri is the leader, regardless of CMA's departure, provided Missouri hires a coach worth a crap. We'll see about that ...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 23, 2011, 04:53:31 PM
Quote
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline
With Missouri coach Mike Anderson leaving for Arkansas, this leaves unsigned 2011 forward Otto Porter in a strange situation...


ku fan on nat'l board was all  :excited: about Porter reportedly planning to take an official there, Bossi replied and basically said, Porter is real close to family and still thinks Missouri is the leader, regardless of CMA's departure, provided Missouri hires a coach worth a crap. We'll see about that ...

Hasn't Self made a living recruiting late year coaching casualties

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 23, 2011, 05:11:31 PM
Massa brought in Henry and Taylor after coaching changes, could be more, somebody who follows ku recruiting closer than me could probably provide better insight.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 23, 2011, 05:28:38 PM
Galindo and CJ Giles also decomitted because of coaching changes.

Really, Self is just good at late pull it out your ass recruiting.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 23, 2011, 09:27:07 PM
If you're on GPC, you've seen the recent Jeremy Jones update. If not, read the link below. They basically say the same thing, main things in GPC update not included here are:
1) Jones confirms visit date to KSU (April 8)
2) Coach from Seward talking about Jones, mainly coachspeak stuff, talking his boy up

http://chicagohoops.hoops247.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=252:former-chicago-simeon-star-jeremy-jones-of-seward-county-community-college-red-hot-on-the-recruiting-trail&catid=34:recruiting
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on March 23, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
Holmes update from Baltimore paper/website written about 1 wk ago, highlight vids of him from 10-11 season linked at bottom of story

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/recruiting/2011/03/st_frances_grad_dante_holmes_looking_for_best_fit.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Andy on March 25, 2011, 07:46:40 PM
Galindo and CJ Giles also decomitted because of coaching changes.

Really, Self is just good at late pull it out your ass recruiting.

(http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=544788186751&id=333efb479be0e49b819f77ee883dd2fc)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 26, 2011, 01:51:08 PM
so diaz.... undecided?  fantastic.

http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 26, 2011, 01:54:19 PM
so diaz.... undecided?  fantastic.

http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1)

very odd.  his accent is odd too.  thought he was born in florida.



he mentions plans to come to kstate this summer on march 2nd (fb) though, so i'm not sure what to make of the interview.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: scottwildcat on March 26, 2011, 02:01:22 PM
 :bang:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fuktard on March 26, 2011, 02:02:52 PM
Did he forget he signed an LOI?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on March 26, 2011, 02:16:40 PM
His arms are fracking skinny.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 26, 2011, 02:31:01 PM
so diaz.... undecided?  fantastic.

http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1)

very odd.  his accent is odd too.  thought he was born in florida.



he mentions plans to come to kstate this summer on march 2nd (fb) though, so i'm not sure what to make of the interview.

might explain our interest in Shawshank and frank's desire to look past wally being a b*tch.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: leawoodcat on March 26, 2011, 02:34:56 PM
so diaz.... undecided?  fantastic.

http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1)

Diaz never said he was undecided. The host said it each time. Further the host said Diaz was undecided and then asked a question that had nothing to do with where Diaz is going to school.  Diaz answered the questions.
Diaz seemed nervous. I wonder if he has some language barriers, also. Hopefully this was just miscommunication.
 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 26, 2011, 02:38:07 PM
frank's desire to look past wally being a b*tch.

anything is possible re. diaz not qualifying, etc.  re. judge, rumors seem to indicate that judge may desire to look past martin being an bad person, but i haven't seen anything yet that indicates martin desires to look past judge being a bitch.


all of these are fun, but imo, the most interesting recruiting mystery of the weekend is still smith visiting while martin & the students are gone.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 26, 2011, 02:38:22 PM
so diaz.... undecided?  fantastic.

http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/allmetrosports/broadcast_156204.html?silverlight=1)

Unless we released him from his LOI, or he never signed one to begin with (but the KSU SID put out a statement that he did), I'm guessing he's confused, or the guy doing the interview had no idea what he was talking about, and Diaz really didn't know how to answer the question.  He didn't look very comfortable doing the interview, so he may have just wanted to coast through it.

I'm not really that concerned about it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 26, 2011, 02:40:48 PM
frank's desire to look past wally being a b*tch.

anything is possible re. diaz not qualifying, etc.  re. judge, rumors seem to indicate that judge may desire to look past martin being an bad person, but i haven't seen anything yet that indicates martin desires to look past judge being a bitch.


all of these are fun, but imo, the most interesting recruiting mystery of the weekend is still smith visiting while martin & the students are gone.

% chance that we land him? 10%?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 26, 2011, 03:01:43 PM
% chance that we land him? 10%?

have no idea whatsoever.  seems like a player that will go wherever he's pointed towards.  very confusing re. who is advising him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on March 26, 2011, 04:18:11 PM
I kinda figured it was just to visit Rod?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on March 26, 2011, 05:17:38 PM
I kinda figured it was just to visit Rod?

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Shawn Smith - Headin to orlando... then flying to kansas tomorrow #on the move

When asked why:

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Family but I talked to rodney today so most likely ill be with him on campus. heard its nice there lol I'm excited I finally get to take my visit there
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on March 26, 2011, 06:49:20 PM
Watching the broadcast of the Seward-Coffeyville Region VI Championship game.  Jones looks okay but hasn't really done anything impressive.  Jumps really high on his 3s.  Didn't pick up a foul until there was like 22 seconds left.  Coffeyville has a chick on their dance squad that looks to weigh about 250.  Really ugly overall play.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 26, 2011, 07:19:29 PM
Watching the broadcast of the Seward-Coffeyville Region VI Championship game.  Jones looks okay but hasn't really done anything impressive.  Jumps really high on his 3s.  Didn't pick up a foul until there was like 22 seconds left.  Coffeyville has a chick on their dance squad that looks to weigh about 250.  Really ugly overall play.

geary scout.  we should def not 'cruit that girl.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: KSUBrian on March 27, 2011, 02:01:25 PM
is Ar anything like the VCU Rodriguez?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 27, 2011, 02:06:53 PM
is Ar anything like the VCU Rodriguez?

I love how 95% of all AR-T comparos are with guards whose last names end with an 'a' or a 'z'.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on March 27, 2011, 02:17:38 PM
is Ar anything like the VCU Rodriguez?

I love how 95% of all AR-T comparos are with guards whose last names end with an 'a' or a 'z'.

I'd venture to guess that about 50% are comparisons to Clemente, and that's without going over to GPC.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 27, 2011, 04:12:59 PM
% chance that we land him? 10%?

have no idea whatsoever.  seems like a player that will go wherever he's pointed towards.  very confusing re. who is advising him.

from what I heard, made it sound like his mom wants him close to home and that will drive his commitment, but he's decommitted again.  another reason for frank to leave?  also that we might not have interest...which is f'ing stupid if that's the case.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 27, 2011, 04:25:48 PM
from what I heard, made it sound like his mom wants him close to home and that will drive his commitment, but he's decommitted again.  another reason for frank to leave?  also that we might not have interest...which is f'ing stupid if that's the case.

i doubt if his mother drove him to switch high schools and aau teams.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 27, 2011, 05:48:14 PM
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I don't think he made it to Manhattan and don't expect him to make it to Manhattan. If he was, in fact, here, it was on his own to visit Rodney. As far as I know, his K-State recruitment is over.

With Frank Martin in New York this weekend, it would have been a silly time for a visit anyway.

Sorry to be the wet blanket.

missed this earlier from cassidy.  makes sense.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on March 27, 2011, 05:50:02 PM
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I don't think he made it to Manhattan and don't expect him to make it to Manhattan. If he was, in fact, here, it was on his own to visit Rodney. As far as I know, his K-State recruitment is over.

With Frank Martin in New York this weekend, it would have been a silly time for a visit anyway.

Sorry to be the wet blanket.

missed this earlier from cassidy.  makes sense.

I kinda figured it was just to visit Rod?

:horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on March 27, 2011, 06:07:29 PM
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I don't think he made it to Manhattan and don't expect him to make it to Manhattan. If he was, in fact, here, it was on his own to visit Rodney. As far as I know, his K-State recruitment is over.

With Frank Martin in New York this weekend, it would have been a silly time for a visit anyway.

Sorry to be the wet blanket.

missed this earlier from cassidy.  makes sense.

did you read the follow up?  it's "what I heard".
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2011, 06:09:48 PM
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I don't think he made it to Manhattan and don't expect him to make it to Manhattan. If he was, in fact, here, it was on his own to visit Rodney. As far as I know, his K-State recruitment is over.

With Frank Martin in New York this weekend, it would have been a silly time for a visit anyway.

Sorry to be the wet blanket.

missed this earlier from cassidy.  makes sense.

did you read the follow up?  it's "what I heard".

So Rob is guessing and nothing official has been said?  Thought that the original quote from Smith said that he was "finally going to take an official visit...", or something like that.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on March 27, 2011, 08:42:17 PM
re: visit

are you guys talking Smith or Djursic here?  Smith is a '12
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 27, 2011, 10:03:44 PM
Smith is a '12

yeah the threads got mumped a while back.


Thought that the original quote from Smith said that he was "finally going to take an official visit...", or something like that.

no.  his facebook quote said he was coming to kansas to visit family.  then mentioned he was also going to see mcgruder.


did you read the follow up?  it's "what I heard".

i've assumed that kstate would stop recruiting him from the minute he left acd.  cassidy confirming that this rumored trip doesn't indicate continued recruitment makes sense.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on March 27, 2011, 10:05:47 PM
Gotcha.

However, Smith was quoted a while ago listing us, and four others(or so), as who he is interested in.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 27, 2011, 10:32:45 PM
Didn't his AAU team make him decommit and list high profile schools so they get more pub? Also, he can't take officials this early.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 27, 2011, 10:37:53 PM
Didn't his AAU team make him decommit and list high profile schools so they get more pub? Also, he can't take officials this early.

That is what was speculated.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on March 28, 2011, 07:17:47 AM
what is Smith's connection to McGruder?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on March 28, 2011, 10:30:12 AM
what is Smith's connection to McGruder?

ACD
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on March 28, 2011, 12:18:39 PM
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are you still coming to kstate? there are some rumors that you arent...

Diaz:

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i am still going. can't wait.

Not much detail but at least he answered the question. :emawkid:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 28, 2011, 01:10:44 PM
Good job, Pett.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Jackie Moon on March 28, 2011, 04:01:53 PM
 :gocho:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: goldenticket on March 28, 2011, 05:23:33 PM
 :woot:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Spaces on March 28, 2011, 07:05:52 PM
 :pbj:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on March 28, 2011, 09:41:38 PM
New transfer with legit interest: Kevin Ware from Tenn.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on March 28, 2011, 10:12:21 PM
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I've gotten 3 messages that he was in Billy's BBQ (a BIG kU joint) earlier this evening. I guess he's been after it pretty hard for the Seward County kid.

For what it's worth, a guy very close to the Seward staff told me he thought he'd end up at K-State. Says he's intrigued by the North Carolina offer, but won't get the playing time that he'd get at K-State.

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Did someone confirm that Jones received an offer from UNC?

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he REALLY like his visit to Tampa/USF, they do need him!

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Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: flyhighordie on March 29, 2011, 12:21:33 AM
Some more Kevin Ward news...Kid is super athletic and looks like a guy who looks to get to the rim.
http://blogs.ajc.com/georgia-high-school-sports/2011/03/28/tennessee-basketball-recruit-kevin-ware-still-requesting-release-after-volunteers-hire-new-coach/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2011, 07:32:36 AM
yeah, don't think the Ware interest is legit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 29, 2011, 11:49:17 AM
yeah, don't think the Ware interest is legit.

why?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2011, 12:03:38 PM
yeah, don't think the Ware interest is legit.

why?

Quote
He (Ware) has heard rumors of interest from Louisville, Kansas, UCLA, Florida State, Kansas State, Georgetown, Georgia Tech and UGA, among others.

I mean, the guy's heard rumors that we are interested? :dubious:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 29, 2011, 12:06:14 PM
I mean, the guy's heard rumors that we are interested? :dubious:

he hasn't been released yet.  it would be some sort of minor violation for a school to talk directly with him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on March 29, 2011, 12:07:27 PM
I mean, the guy's heard rumors that we are interested? :dubious:

he hasn't been released yet.  it would be some sort of minor violation for a school to talk directly with him.

well then I would err on the side of "not legit".
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 29, 2011, 12:13:17 PM
well then I would err on the side of "not legit".

kstate is so in an ajc writer's head that he threw them in?  ware dreams so hard on kstate that he's made himself believe that kstate has inquired?  his coach is pushing kstate so hard that he's telling ware that kstate is interested even though martin is too busy attacking kellis on random cable stations and flying to liberal to call?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2011, 12:56:57 PM
the weather is getting to micat :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on March 29, 2011, 02:22:20 PM
:zzz:

:zzz: :zzz:

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 29, 2011, 02:38:23 PM
ware must be an unreal athlete, btw, 'cause his scouting reports are basically: v. athletic, can't shoot, no handle, bad hands, too skinny for college, four star.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 29, 2011, 02:44:11 PM
ware must be an unreal athlete, btw, 'cause his scouting reports are basically: v. athletic, can't shoot, no handle, bad hands, too skinny for college, four star.

the perfect JYC once baldy gets through with him  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on March 29, 2011, 02:44:47 PM
:zzz:

:zzz: :zzz:

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

I love how as you watch this, the spacing changes each time it comes across the screen.

Sorry.  Back to your originally scheduled programming.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SwiftCat on March 29, 2011, 02:52:11 PM
:zzz:

:zzz: :zzz:

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

Anyone else bored enought to watch these line back up?

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p98/Linerider_pics/snoozelineup.jpg)


EDIT: PAN!! Glad to see I'm not alone in my fascination.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on March 30, 2011, 05:18:22 PM
ware must be an unreal athlete, btw, 'cause his scouting reports are basically: v. athletic, can't shoot, no handle, bad hands, too skinny for college, four star.

the perfect JYC once baldy gets through with him  :horrorsurprise:
But I really like players that are not offensively challenged.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 30, 2011, 06:01:25 PM
gpc poster reporting that kstate is recruiting james watson of cowley co.  pf from oklahoma, went to washington state out of hs, transfered to juco after a rs year + a year with 6 min/game.  lots of stuff on google about him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on March 31, 2011, 07:20:05 AM
gpc poster reporting that kstate is recruiting james watson of cowley co.  pf from oklahoma, went to washington state out of hs, transfered to juco after a rs year + a year with 6 min/game.  lots of stuff on google about him.

the staff should put a small selected (by me) goup of goEMAW members in charge of non-transfer recruiting for the spring period. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EMAWzified on March 31, 2011, 10:35:04 AM
He appears to be too adorable for butt-ugly WSU.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 04:34:01 PM
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2011 SG Kevin Ware just got his release from Tennessee.

kline tweet.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on March 31, 2011, 04:35:57 PM
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2011 SG Kevin Ware just got his release from Tennessee.

kline tweet.

what is our connection to Ware?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on March 31, 2011, 04:38:53 PM
what is our connection to Ware?

hill was out front in 2008 when kstate seemed to be trying to get into atlanta.  i'd assume he'd be the lead recruiter here, if ware's recruitment progresses.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on March 31, 2011, 04:47:58 PM
A - B - R
ALWAYS BE RECRUITING


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Go get him, Dalonte!

WE want him!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 01, 2011, 10:04:11 AM
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Louisiana Tech transfer Olu Ashaolu hearing from Kentucky, San Diego State, Duquesne, Oregon, Kansas State, Iowa State & Mississippi State.

 :ksu:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 01, 2011, 10:31:40 AM
Quote
Louisiana Tech transfer Olu Ashaolu hearing from Kentucky, San Diego State, Duquesne, Oregon, Kansas State, Iowa State & Mississippi State.

 :ksu:

Figger doin' work.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 01, 2011, 05:21:38 PM
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According to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.

"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."

rather have this ashaolu than watson.  but prefer this dude to the juco guards and wings that have been mentioned.  hopefully it's an either or situ.  cassidy is killing the beat writers, btw.  props to him.


http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1207046
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 01, 2011, 06:24:03 PM
You missed a spot at the bottom of that barrel Frank.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 01, 2011, 06:26:52 PM
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According to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.

"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."

rather have this ashaolu than watson.  but prefer this dude to the juco guards and wings that have been mentioned.  hopefully it's an either or situ.  cassidy is killing the beat writers, btw.  props to him.


http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1207046

yeah, rob is BITB for recruiting
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 01, 2011, 08:26:10 PM
Quote
According to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.

"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."

rather have this ashaolu than watson.  but prefer this dude to the juco guards and wings that have been mentioned.  hopefully it's an either or situ.  cassidy is killing the beat writers, btw.  props to him.


http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1207046

Goodbye Wally   :cry:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: raquetcat on April 02, 2011, 02:56:30 PM
Quote
Louisiana Tech transfer Olu Ashaolu hearing from Kentucky, San Diego State, Duquesne, Oregon, Kansas State, Iowa State & Mississippi State.

 :ksu:

Figger doin' work.

how many years would ashaolu have? Looks like he redshirted then played 2 yrs. Plus he's originally from canada, warm up a 2nd canadian flag m'fers
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wazucat on April 02, 2011, 08:05:04 PM
Quote
According to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.

"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."

rather have this ashaolu than watson.  but prefer this dude to the juco guards and wings that have been mentioned.  hopefully it's an either or situ.  cassidy is killing the beat writers, btw.  props to him.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1207046

Apologies if  already posted, did not know kid was from OK. 

http://washingtonstate.scout.com/a.z?s=137&p=8&c=1&nid=3164600
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 02, 2011, 09:25:01 PM
Quote
According to his junior college coaches, there's a good chance that Watson's first official visit, a trip to Manhattan, Kan., on April 8, could very well be his last.

"Honestly, I think he likes K-State," Cowley County assistant Donnie Jackson said. "I mean, who knows? I think if he likes his visit, he's going to commit to them there. I think he needs a coach like Coach (Frank) Martin, who is really going to be on him."

rather have this ashaolu than watson.  but prefer this dude to the juco guards and wings that have been mentioned.  hopefully it's an either or situ.  cassidy is killing the beat writers, btw.  props to him.


http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1207046

so, like, bp basically called him a non-talented wally judge. so, yeah, do not want.  I want nothing to do with anyone except ash, who apparently is going to end up being too good for us. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 03, 2011, 09:58:05 PM
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SportsRadio810 Sports Radio 810 WHB
St. Louis standout Ben McLemore picks Kansas over Mizzou. Your comments?
Title: James Watson KSU Recruit.
Post by: WellingtonCat on April 04, 2011, 02:10:25 AM
James Watson KSU Recruit playing at Cowley County was arrested last Wednesday.

Arkansas City Police Report for March 30, 2011

An Ark City male was the victim of aggravated burglary, theft and criminal damage to property in the 100 block of South Fourth. James Watson, Atoka, OK, was arrested in connection.

What will Frank Do?

http://www.newscow.net/story.php?StoryID=5102
Title: Re: James Watson KSU Recruit.
Post by: CatsFan_58 on April 04, 2011, 02:11:29 AM
James Watson KSU Recruit playing at Cowley County was arrested last Wednesday.

Arkansas City Police Report for March 30, 2011

An Ark City male was the victim of aggravated burglary, theft and criminal damage to property in the 100 block of South Fourth. James Watson, Atoka, OK, was arrested in connection.

What will Frank Do?

http://www.newscow.net/story.php?StoryID=5102
mcmw
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 07:32:05 AM
Is McLemore still iffy to qualify?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 04, 2011, 07:37:08 AM
Is McLemore still iffy to qualify?

Not at ku.
Title: Re: James Watson KSU Recruit.
Post by: steve dave on April 04, 2011, 07:37:09 AM
good, did not want
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on April 04, 2011, 09:30:56 PM
Is McLemore still iffy to qualify?

Not at ku.
lol.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 05, 2011, 12:34:21 AM
Has it been reported on here that Jeremy Jones is supposed to visit KSU this weekend?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 05, 2011, 01:12:17 AM
Has it been reported on here that Jeremy Jones is supposed to visit KSU this weekend?

dunno.  i'm trying to pretend jones and everything he represents isn't real.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 05, 2011, 10:45:14 AM
ware must be an unreal athlete, btw, 'cause his scouting reports are basically: v. athletic, can't shoot, no handle, bad hands, too skinny for college, four star.

Yeah, sounds that way:

"Ware is a tremendous pure athlete who is learning every day how to play the game of basketball. Many have compared him to Randy Moss who has been one of the better athletes of his time..." :surprised:

Rest of eval isn't nearly as complimentary, does have 80" wingspan though

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/64072/kevin-ware
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 05, 2011, 10:48:29 AM
Of course, in latest update on Ware, KSU not mentioned as school of interest, according to his Dad:

"According to Ware's father, Wesley Junior, that list(along with Tennessee) also includes UCLA, Louisville, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, UCF, Georgetown and Virginia."

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1208244
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 05, 2011, 10:52:10 AM
Looks like our staff has stopped their pursuit of Anthony Hubbard, KSU not mentioned in recent Scout update. He's already visited Iowa and Penn St, will be visiting Jacksonville this weekend, Nebraska after that, and not sure if he'll take a 5th visit.

http://iowa.scout.com/2/1061575.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 06, 2011, 01:24:01 PM
Is this the largest All-American team ever compiled at any level? I'm sure there are a lot of talented players here, but 50 of them?

'Grats to Jeremy Jones, 3rd team, that's Top 30  :gocho:

http://www.njcaa.org/sports_awards.cfm?sid=4&divid=1&slid=2

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 06, 2011, 02:26:25 PM
Per request from other Carousel thread, Bossi was on 810 today.

I only caught part of it, but he listed our 'cruits and said:

1. None of our guys will wow anyone into thinking that they will immediately make a difference, but that several could be 2-3 year starters by end of their careers.

2. Frank loves Angel and that Angel will be the guy who isn't afraid to take tough shots when needed

3. pronounced it Enrique

3. said that he was most excited about Gip.  that he was a grinder and hard worker

4. said that Diaz can face up and run really well but is too skinny.  Called him another Enrique

5. Said no one knows what to expect with Omari.  Said he was great in HS, but his body "went old man on him", whatevs that means.

6. Didn't seem overly up on us

Said that Mike Anderson will win more than Haith but due to conf, not coaching.

Missed half of his discussion on KU, but it sounded like he had no real idea what they are doing as of now.

Reinforced that Kentucky is getting very good players in this year.

That is about it.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 06, 2011, 02:38:05 PM
thanks cns
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Jarvis_Cat on April 06, 2011, 02:49:52 PM
Great summary, thx!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Panjandrum on April 06, 2011, 03:13:17 PM
3. said that he was most excited about Gip.  that he was a grinder and hard worker

Agreed.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 09, 2011, 07:06:46 AM

From Tuck Board:
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Forgive my ignorance, but who is James Watson?

Don't worry Wildcat129, many of us are pretty much saying the same thing.

But that's recruiting with Frank Kruger Jr. these days.    :flush:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 09, 2011, 08:41:36 AM
I'm assuming this (unfortunately) goes here

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Martin at Coco Bolos
My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on April 09, 2011, 11:33:40 AM
This was e-mailed to me.  Weird, considering the disclaimer by the OP.  Nobody ever said those gpc'rs can follow directions well.  Not sure if that's an environment I want to work in.

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The link is only to a partial story, so here's the full text.

Just do me a favor and keep it on Wabash, OK?

None of this e-mailing it around to your buddies crap. Tell 'em to read it here.


Cowley College athlete caught in the middle

Cowley College basketball standout James Watson, of Atoka, Okla., has a story similar to that of NFL Baltimore Ravens offensive tackle Michael "Big Mike" Oher, the Ole Miss football star about whom the movie "The Blind Side" is based.
The only difference, said Watson's mother, Annette - who works in a child protective agency in Oklahoma - is that Michael Oher was adopted by "rich" white people, and they're just hard-working, middle-class people.
James was arrested last Wednesday on charges of aggravated burglary, felony theft and criminal damage to property in the Cowley College athletic dorm.
He was transported to the Cowley County Jail and released later that day on an $8,000 bond, according to a jail official.
The incident occurred at 7:30 a.m. March 30 in James' dorm room, according to Annette.
She said her son was being portrayed as a criminal - but is far from that.
Annette said James tried to not become mixed up in the dispute between his roommate, fellow Cowley basketball player Ashton Patton, and Patton's former girlfriend, Brenna Howard, of Topeka.
All James did was open the door when Patton's girlfriend knocked, give her his key so he wouldn't have to get up each time she knocked and went back to sleep, Annette said.
Howard was upset over personal problems she and Patton were having, and took some items from the dorm room that she said she had purchased. Among the items was a television.
"James didn't think a crime was being committed," Annette said. He simply thought Patton's girlfriend was taking things that belonged to her.
Her son's alleged crime was letting the girl into the room and not reporting the incident, Annette said. Patton was not in the room at the time.
"James made the choice not to get involved in it because those two are crazy," Annette said.
"James' crime was that he let her into the dorm room once, that's all he did. His crime is he didn't report it. He went back to sleep, got up and went to class, and thought, 'Man, she trashed this place.'"
Arkansas City arresting police officer Travis Stroud told a slightly different story.
According to Stroud, Brenna Howard, 21, of Topeka, was arrested and booked into the Cowley County Jail on March 31 on the same charges as James - aggravated burglary, felony theft and criminal damage to property. She bonded out that same day at $8,000.
"Brenna poured bleach on some of Patton's clothing, broke a door off a microwave oven and snapped about 20 DVDs in half," Stroud said.
James assisted Howard by unhooking the television in his dorm room and carrying items for her, Stroud said.
Stroud added that he was able to contact Howard by phone and talked her into bringing back all the items she had taken the next day.
Annette said James has a court appearance scheduled for Tuesday, but she hopes the incident is cleared up before then.
James was adopted when he was 14 from the foster care system, his mother said.
"He has high character because we demand that of him," Annette said, adding that James never has had "off the court" issues.
But this incident, which first was reported Wednesday in the Traveler and now is being discussed on online sites, is jeopardizing his future playing career, she said.
"My son has offers from K-State and (Oklahoma State), and he's going on a recruiting tour this weekend with this stuff on him, making him look like a criminal," Annette said.
James, a 6-foot-8, 220-pound forward, was a member of the 2010-11 Cowley men's basketball team after transferring to Cowley from Washington State University.
He averaged 10.4 points and 6.1 rebounds per game.
James has high interest and an offer from Georgia State, according to Rivals.com, as well as medium interest from Kansas State, Missouri State and Wichita State. He is listed as visiting Kansas State this weekend.
James had a sister, Kayla, who died four years ago at 21;, and he has a brother, Matthew, 23, and an adopted black sister, Charisma, 3. James was adopted by the Watsons when he was 14. He is 21 years old now.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 09, 2011, 12:15:08 PM
rough ridin' cops.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 09, 2011, 12:21:16 PM
This was e-mailed to me.  Weird, considering the disclaimer by the OP.  Nobody ever said those gpc'rs can follow directions well.  Not sure if that's an environment I want to work in.

Quote
The link is only to a partial story, so here's the full text.

Just do me a favor and keep it on Wabash, OK?

None of this e-mailing it around to your buddies crap. Tell 'em to read it here.


Cowley College athlete caught in the middle

Cowley College basketball standout James Watson, of Atoka, Okla., has a story similar to that of NFL Baltimore Ravens offensive tackle Michael "Big Mike" Oher, the Ole Miss football star about whom the movie "The Blind Side" is based.
The only difference, said Watson's mother, Annette - who works in a child protective agency in Oklahoma - is that Michael Oher was adopted by "rich" white people, and they're just hard-working, middle-class people.
James was arrested last Wednesday on charges of aggravated burglary, felony theft and criminal damage to property in the Cowley College athletic dorm.
He was transported to the Cowley County Jail and released later that day on an $8,000 bond, according to a jail official.
The incident occurred at 7:30 a.m. March 30 in James' dorm room, according to Annette.
She said her son was being portrayed as a criminal - but is far from that.
Annette said James tried to not become mixed up in the dispute between his roommate, fellow Cowley basketball player Ashton Patton, and Patton's former girlfriend, Brenna Howard, of Topeka.
All James did was open the door when Patton's girlfriend knocked, give her his key so he wouldn't have to get up each time she knocked and went back to sleep, Annette said.
Howard was upset over personal problems she and Patton were having, and took some items from the dorm room that she said she had purchased. Among the items was a television.
"James didn't think a crime was being committed," Annette said. He simply thought Patton's girlfriend was taking things that belonged to her.
Her son's alleged crime was letting the girl into the room and not reporting the incident, Annette said. Patton was not in the room at the time.
"James made the choice not to get involved in it because those two are crazy," Annette said.
"James' crime was that he let her into the dorm room once, that's all he did. His crime is he didn't report it. He went back to sleep, got up and went to class, and thought, 'Man, she trashed this place.'"
Arkansas City arresting police officer Travis Stroud told a slightly different story.
According to Stroud, Brenna Howard, 21, of Topeka, was arrested and booked into the Cowley County Jail on March 31 on the same charges as James - aggravated burglary, felony theft and criminal damage to property. She bonded out that same day at $8,000.
"Brenna poured bleach on some of Patton's clothing, broke a door off a microwave oven and snapped about 20 DVDs in half," Stroud said.
James assisted Howard by unhooking the television in his dorm room and carrying items for her, Stroud said.
Stroud added that he was able to contact Howard by phone and talked her into bringing back all the items she had taken the next day.
Annette said James has a court appearance scheduled for Tuesday, but she hopes the incident is cleared up before then.
James was adopted when he was 14 from the foster care system, his mother said.
"He has high character because we demand that of him," Annette said, adding that James never has had "off the court" issues.
But this incident, which first was reported Wednesday in the Traveler and now is being discussed on online sites, is jeopardizing his future playing career, she said.
"My son has offers from K-State and (Oklahoma State), and he's going on a recruiting tour this weekend with this stuff on him, making him look like a criminal," Annette said.
James, a 6-foot-8, 220-pound forward, was a member of the 2010-11 Cowley men's basketball team after transferring to Cowley from Washington State University.
He averaged 10.4 points and 6.1 rebounds per game.
James has high interest and an offer from Georgia State, according to Rivals.com, as well as medium interest from Kansas State, Missouri State and Wichita State. He is listed as visiting Kansas State this weekend.
James had a sister, Kayla, who died four years ago at 21;, and he has a brother, Matthew, 23, and an adopted black sister, Charisma, 3. James was adopted by the Watsons when he was 14. He is 21 years old now.

:DNR:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 09, 2011, 04:45:45 PM
I'm assuming this (unfortunately) goes here

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Martin at Coco Bolos
My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.

FWIW, the recruit was Jeremy Jones.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: BigShotAttorneyCat on April 09, 2011, 04:46:16 PM
I'm assuming this (unfortunately) goes here

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Martin at Coco Bolos
My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.

FWIW, the recruit was Jeremy Jones.

Jones and Watson are both in town
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: gokatgo on April 09, 2011, 07:15:42 PM
bringing kids to dinner with recruits?    :surprised:


 :runaway: :barf: :runaway: :barf: :runaway: :barf:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Bookcat on April 10, 2011, 08:13:44 AM
I'm assuming this (unfortunately) goes here

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Martin at Coco Bolos
My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.

that's the Cuban in him. Total unpredictablitlity.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on April 10, 2011, 08:50:55 AM
I'm assuming this (unfortunately) goes here

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Martin at Coco Bolos
My wife and I went to Bolos last night at about 8:30-9:00, and Frank, the assistants, his kids, delonte's kids, Jake, Rodney, and what looked to be a recruit? (didn't recognize him), were just finishing up dinner. Mood was light-hearted, and everyone seemed to be joking around. Sure didn't look like a guy getting ready to bolt.

Sounds to me like a table full of people that are not going to be in Manhattan next year
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 11, 2011, 10:59:29 AM
Pierre Jackson to Baylor(Gary Franklin doesn't approve)

Sam Grooms to Oklahoma(Carl Blair and Calvin Newell probably don't approve but neither are real good so Kruger probably doesn't care)

Stan Simpson to Memphis

KSU was never mentioned in connection with any of these prospects, but these were 3 of the top JC prospects available and it sorta has a local/B12 flavor.

1 player who KSU had briefly been mentioned in connection with, 6'1" PG Wes Washpun from Cedar Rapids, IA, committed to Tennessee(not included in update below)

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210397
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 11, 2011, 11:22:58 AM
Pierre Jackson to Baylor(Gary Franklin doesn't approve)

Sam Grooms to Oklahoma(Carl Blair and Calvin Newell probably don't approve but neither are real good so Kruger probably doesn't care)

Stan Simpson to Memphis

KSU was never mentioned in connection with any of these prospects, but these were 3 of the top JC prospects available and it sorta has a local/B12 flavor.

1 player who KSU had briefly been mentioned in connection with, 6'1" PG Wes Washpun from Cedar Rapids, IA, committed to Tennessee(not included in update below)

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210397C

Lobbying for the Miami job takes you away from other things.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 11, 2011, 12:16:35 PM
The only 1 of the JC guys that I'm disappointed KSU didn't pursue was Jackson, a couple recruiting outlets referred to him as the best JC prospect available this Spring and he would have filled the need(IMO at least) of a dynamic scoring PG who's also a good on ball defender.

If we're planning on keeping Myles around, I must admit it would have been pretty Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to go after Jackson or any other smallish PG, but who really knows what's going on there.

Jackson is definitely undersized(5'10" 170) and there's no guarantee he will excel at the HM level, our staff is reportedly pretty high on Rodriguez's ability to contribute right away, so we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 12:49:20 PM
The only 1 of the JC guys that I'm disappointed KSU.

i don't see why you you'd bring in a jr pg unless you hate soph and fr pgs.  jones is a shooter, so even though i don't want him, i can see how he fits.


drew must hate at least one of his other jr pg and his two soph pgs.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 11, 2011, 12:51:40 PM
The only 1 of the JC guys that I'm disappointed KSU.

i don't see why you you'd bring in a jr pg unless you hate soph and fr pgs. 

Which is exactly why I said it would be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to recruit him if Myles was still sticking around.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 12:58:30 PM
Which is exactly why I said it would be Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) to recruit him if Myles was still sticking around.

i agree, but i think it'd be weird/mean even if myles leaves.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 11, 2011, 01:01:20 PM
I think we were mentioned w/ Simpson when he was a HS recruit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 11, 2011, 01:02:44 PM
I think we were mentioned w/ Simpson when he was a HS recruit.

I believe you are correct.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 11, 2011, 01:10:56 PM
I think we were mentioned w/ Simpson when he was a HS recruit.

I believe you are correct.

I thought KU wanted him pretty bad.  Was that TRob insurance, or did they just outright lose him to Cankles?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 11, 2011, 01:14:42 PM
I think we were mentioned w/ Simpson when he was a HS recruit.

I believe you are correct.

I thought KU wanted him pretty bad.  Was that TRob insurance, or did they just outright lose him to Cankles?

Anderson's recent commit probably had a lot do with that

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=12534.0
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 01:15:55 PM
I thought KU wanted him pretty bad.  Was that TRob insurance, or did they just outright lose him to Cankles?

no one wanted simpson badly.  he sucks, he was just one of the few remaining options.  ku got anderson instead/first.  anderson's no prize either.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on April 11, 2011, 01:33:52 PM
I thought KU wanted him pretty bad.  Was that TRob insurance, or did they just outright lose him to Cankles?

no one wanted simpson badly.  he sucks, he was just one of the few remaining options.  ku got anderson instead/first.  anderson's no prize either.

seff will bounce him next year when they get some top 50 guy.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 01:38:09 PM
seff will bounce him next year when they get some top 50 guy.

yes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 11, 2011, 01:47:54 PM
i don't see why you you'd bring in a jr pg unless you hate soph and fr pgs. 
Freshman and Sophomore PGs are awesome!
(http://www.slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/tommy_mason-griffin.jpg)
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/okla/sports/m-baskbl/auto_action/6201058.jpeg)

A freshman and a sophomore lead OU to their worst seasons in 20+ years, so yeah stick with them as OU passes you guys with the Grooms!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 11, 2011, 01:53:46 PM
A freshman and a sophomore lead OU to their worst seasons in 20+ years, so yeah stick with them as OU passes you guys with the Grooms!!!!!

i think it's pretty obvious kruger didn't like the pgs he found himself with.  kstate isn't in the same situ.  there should have been a "your" in my original sentence.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on April 11, 2011, 02:33:16 PM
seff will bounce him next year when they get some top 50 guy.

yes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on April 11, 2011, 03:54:06 PM
seff will bounce him next year when they get some top 50 guy.

yes.
mario little
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: KITNfury on April 13, 2011, 09:30:40 AM
Nothing too new, but ESPN senior analyst was on 810. Said Gipson will be good around the block as a finisher/rebounder. Diaz is way ahead of Henriquez (although he said Rodriguez) at the same point in their high school career, but needs to add muscle. Rodriguez plays with a big chip on his shoulder like he has something to prove. Got a good shot at getting Jones (or whoever the JC point guard from that one KS juco is) who is a legit high major starting PG.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: FranklyFrankYou on April 13, 2011, 09:55:20 AM
Nothing too new, but ESPN senior analyst was on 810. Said Gipson will be good around the block as a finisher/rebounder. Diaz is way ahead of Henriquez (although he said Rodriguez) at the same point in their high school career, but needs to add muscle. Rodriguez plays with a big chip on his shoulder like he has something to prove. Got a good shot at getting Jones (or whoever the JC point guard from that one KS juco is) who is a legit high major starting PG.
Yay!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 13, 2011, 11:31:17 AM
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? Webster-Chan still committed to Louisville
Kevin Ware update
Posted on April 13, 2011 by Jody Demling

Spoke with the father of Kevin Ware, one of the few uncommitted top 100 prospects nationally, on Wednesday morning about the recruitment process.

Ware’s father, Wesley Junior, said the former Tennessee commitment will not take any visits until later in the month. He was scheduled to visit Central Florida this weekend but those plans have changed because of logistics.

"No visits to any schools right now," Junior said. "There are still two or three schools that want to get in and talk and he needs to have time to think about the schools and then make a final list of the schools that he will visit."

Louisville, Central Florida, Georgia, UCLA, Georgetown and South Carolina are the schools that Junior mentioned. Ware has four official visits left.

Ware is scheduled to play in the Derby Festival Classic on April 22 at the KFC Yum! Center and will arrive in Louisville on April 20 in preparation of the game.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 13, 2011, 12:44:11 PM
Here's the news everybody has been waiting on, S. Fla. got a recent commit from JC PG Blake Nash(2nd Team AA!), which means that's 1 less suitor for Jeremy Jones. Which school will SURVIVE this titan struggle for Jones?  :ohno:

http://www.voodoofive.com/2011/4/9/2101269/blake-nash-commits-usf-basketball
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 13, 2011, 06:01:36 PM
So Lonny signs a kid today and he's been on the job for a rough ridin' week. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on April 15, 2011, 01:39:54 AM
So Lonny signs a kid today and he's been on the job for a rough ridin' week. 
Lol
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2011, 10:40:30 AM
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youngo11 omari lawrence
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@Jowildkat2 that's what ima do, ima be down there to get that signed
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on April 15, 2011, 10:46:56 AM
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youngo11 omari lawrence
@
@Jowildkat2 that's what ima do, ima be down there to get that signed

Translation?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 15, 2011, 11:22:51 AM
Probably the results of an AIDS test.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 15, 2011, 11:28:19 AM
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Billy Gillispie and Texas Tech Have 7 Commitments for 2011-2012 Season

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 The Texas Tech Red Raiders were not a good basketball team last season under Pat Knight. Because of their poor record Knight was shown the door and Billy Gillispie was hired.

Even with Gillispie in charge Texas Tech may still not be good next year but at least things will look different when you look out on the court.

In recent weeks Gillispie received commitments from Juco teammates Jaron Nash and Kader Tapsoba out of Tyler J.C.  Nash is listed at 6'7" 175 pounds while Tapsoba is listed at 6"10".

With these two players now on board the Red Raiders have a total of seven players committed for the 2011-2012 season.

According to Rivals the five players who have signed their letter of intents consist of four 3 star recruits: SG Toddrick Gotcher, SF Terran Petteway, PF Jordan Tolbert and PG Kevin Wagner along with 2 star recruit PF Hershey Robinson.

This is a continuing situation to watch as usually when a new coach comes on board at any university there is house cleaning of sorts that takes place within the program.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pete on April 15, 2011, 11:35:07 AM
BP in response to a question about when/i

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Angel is humming the KSU Fight Song [in Spanish]


...has Rock Ch...in it, I believe*


Also, BP doesn't know a god damn thing about our fight song, apparently.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 15, 2011, 12:14:23 PM
BP in response to a question about when/i

Quote


Angel is humming the KSU Fight Song [in Spanish]


...has Rock Ch...in it, I believe*


Also, BP doesn't know a god damn thing about our fight song, apparently.

wow.  self is really getting desperate.  i mean, at least sutton was a 4*.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 15, 2011, 03:07:21 PM
Going to be in Louisville next weekend. See that the Derby Festival Basketball Classic is going on.  Is it worth going?

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 15, 2011, 04:19:39 PM
Going to be in Louisville next weekend. See that the Derby Festival Basketball Classic is going on.  Is it worth going?



I'd go, of course I'm pretty biased, I'll go to any game where it looks like there'll be a semi-competent level of ball played.  :dunno: Rosters do have a pretty solid collection of talent.

http://derbyfestival.org/files/Basketball_rosters_April_8.pdf
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 15, 2011, 04:26:49 PM
I guess this goes here, a couple Olu Ashaolu updates. 1st is from La Tech Rivals site, says he's down to 3(San Diego St, Oregon, Iowa St) but would listen "if a school like Duke" came calling. Damn Justin Knox wannabe.

http://louisianatech.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1211557

Then there's this update from the Iowa St Scout site(free I think). Sounds more open to other schools, but no mention of the KSU Cats.

http://iowastate.scout.com/2/1064633.html
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 15, 2011, 04:35:39 PM
would listen "if a school like Duke" came calling.

another recruit begging for kstate attention left languishing in the wind while our "coach" chases his miami dreams.

 :blank:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 06:20:03 PM
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2011 UNLV signee Grandy Glaze has decommitted from the program, according to his AAU coach.

still not too late to rectify past wrongs.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 21, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
Sys whats the deal with Ware signing with UCF?  Even telep has been tweeting that the whole thing seems out of whack.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 21, 2011, 06:39:42 PM
Sys whats the deal with Ware signing with UCF?

 :ck:

smith's committing and decommitting to ucf was weird too.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on April 22, 2011, 08:40:34 AM
FWIW. Heard last night that Jeremy Jones has already made up his mind to come here.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on April 22, 2011, 08:47:27 AM
FWIW. Heard last night that Jeremy Jones has already made up his mind to come here.

I'd be happy with that.  Is he only coming for 1 year, like every other juco Frank has recruited?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on April 22, 2011, 09:03:09 AM
FWIW. Heard last night that Jeremy Jones has already made up his mind to come here.

I'd be happy with that.  Is he only coming for 1 year, like every other juco Frank has recruited?

Two years! Also, the charges were dropped on that former Washington State player who might transfer here. I think we are just waiting on his decision now (between us & OSU).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 22, 2011, 09:13:07 AM
well, crap.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 22, 2011, 10:08:12 AM
nothing says April like terrible JC recruiting.  That's my Frank.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 22, 2011, 10:09:20 AM
I don't want either one of those losers
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 10:31:21 AM
Jones has grown on me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 22, 2011, 11:48:45 AM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 22, 2011, 11:54:12 AM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

almost certainly
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 22, 2011, 12:02:07 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

almost certainly

Can't wait to follow Nick's and Wally's stats in a couple years.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 22, 2011, 12:02:50 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

almost certainly

Can't wait to follow Nick's and Wally's stats in a couple years.

rod  :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2011, 12:04:20 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

almost certainly

Can't wait to follow Nick's and Wally's stats in a couple years.

rod  :frown:

Was wondering what the bbs focus would be once Miami hired a non-frank coach. 

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Lynchmobrules on April 22, 2011, 03:23:08 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

almost certainly

Can't wait to follow Nick's and Wally's stats in a couple years.

rod  :frown:

Say it ain't so. Don't do this to me.  :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on April 22, 2011, 04:12:25 PM
Rod's not going anywhere if Frank can't get the Miami gig.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on April 22, 2011, 04:16:09 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

almost certainly

Myles. I don't even give a eff if we cause him to lose a year of eligibility.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 22, 2011, 04:17:58 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

almost certainly

Myles. I don't even give a eff if we cause him to lose a year of eligibility.

you heartless S.O.B myles is a fine human being
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 22, 2011, 04:51:28 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

almost certainly

Myles. I don't even give a eff if we cause him to lose a year of eligibility.

you heartless S.O.B myles is a fine human being

I would prefer Canada over Nick, fwiw. 

Nick doesn't have his speed or handles.  I think Myles could be a better all around contributor, in an Energy-like way, than Nick.  Nick is good for 20pts in 4 or 5 games, but he is also good for giving up 20pts to whoever is lucky enough to have him as a defender.  The latter is going to happen more often than the former. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 23, 2011, 05:16:27 PM
hubbard to iowa, per lots of tweets.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 23, 2011, 10:17:11 PM
doesn't make clear if he has an offer.  maybe preferable to jones.  i would not prefer over mcgruder, russell, myles or irving.

Quote
Recently, University of New Orleans’ Freshman KC Ross-Miller spoke to me about leaving the University in order to attend another school, ” I am about to transfer colleges.” Right now, he does not know what college he will ultimately end up at, but Ross-Miller has a list of top contenders that he will evaluate during his transferring process. “I haven’t decided yet but my schools are Purdue, Louisville, UNT, Detroit, Kansas State.” His stay at the University of New Orleans was more of an insurance policy rather than an act of permanence ” I went to UNO because they have a rule where I could go there for one semester and then be eligible to play anywhere without having to sit out, except in the SEC.” Now that the semester is over, Ross-Miller can now focus on looking for the best fitting program, ” I’m looking for a program where I can come and start, have a good coach, and good academics. I’m looking for the best school that needs me the most.” Hopefully this young man will be able to find the school of his dreams!


http://boxofmess.com/2011/04/22/short-and-sweet-update-kc-ross-miller-transferring/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on April 23, 2011, 11:50:12 PM
Why preferable to Jones?  We need a scorer if anything imo?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 24, 2011, 12:50:49 AM
Louisville Courier-Journal writer thinks it's unlikely Louisville makes room for Ross-Miller:
http://blogs.courier-journal.com/jodydemling/2011/04/22/a-few-friday-nuggets-5/

Purdue already has a full class for 2011. And 2012. And 2013. Not likely to find a scholarship there, either.
http://indiana.sbnation.com/purdue-boilermakers/2011/4/23/2129324/purdue-basketball-purdue-closes-out-2013-class-with-69-power-forward

Detroit already brought in Nolan Dennis, not sure if they have any available ships left this year.

I can't see him being a better option for you guys than Angel Rodriguez.

We already have 2 high school PGs signed in this year's class and a JUCO combo that primarily plays point. And he wound up passing on us for LSU last year. Never thought I'd say this about a national Top 150 who was Kentucky and LSU bound in the past... But I'm not shedding any tears if he doesn't land at North Texas. Ross-Miller can play, and the kid himself doesn't seem to be a problem... But there's a lot of baggage there. Just my very underinformed opinion based on what I've read and heard the past 2-3 years.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on April 24, 2011, 12:51:12 AM
Obviously Sys's opinion carries much more weight than mine but I've seen Jones play and I was less than impressed.  Considering he was playing against juco, I don't think he's any better than abyone we have right now.  Plus-our guys at least have an idea of what Franks wants.  Qlck:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on April 24, 2011, 01:05:40 AM
Obviously Sys's opinion carries much more weight than mine but I've seen Jones play and I was less than impressed.  Considering he was playing against juco, I don't think he's any better than abyone we have right now.  Plus-our guys at least have an idea of what Franks wants.  Qlck:

Yeah, I'm not debating whether he's better than people in the system already, but just asking for why he's better than Jones.  I've heard mixed reviews/ befuddled by the unc offer/we could use some points next year. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 24, 2011, 03:13:19 AM
Why preferable to Jones?  We need a scorer if anything imo?   :dunno:

same reason at jt's.  i haven't seen him, but i've seen a fair number of reports from people that have.  and basically none of them say that he's very good.  given that they're all kstate fans, and likely desire him to be decent, that's uninspiring.

good point about his style being a decent fit.  i can see the appeal of having another guy with range on the court along with spradler and mcgruder, assuming they're both back.


the other thing is that i just hate jones because recruiting him is so rough ridin' stupid.  there's no possible way that getting him is a good thing.  every single semi-realistic possibility that leads to an open 'ship for him is a killjoy.  like, if it's mcgruder that sucks because mcgruder's good & is due to get great minutes & for him to want to leave prolly means the whole staff other than figger are constant dicks.  or if it's russell, then it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because you're kicking out a guy with the exact same skillset as the guy you're bringing in, except the guy you're kicking out is better and has more upside and is from arlington grace prep that produces multiple d1 players each year.  or if it's myles, then the staff are a bunch of giant assholes because they recruited a guy with no real chance of making an impact and then kicked him out a year later knowing it would cost him a year of eligibility.  etc, etc.  it's all just so rough ridin' stupid and depressing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TBL on April 24, 2011, 03:15:55 AM
Why preferable to Jones?  We need a scorer if anything imo?   :dunno:

same reason at jt's.  i haven't seen him, but i've seen a fair number of reports from people that have.  and basically none of them say that he's very good.  given that they're all kstate fans, and likely desire him to be decent, that's uninspiring.

good point about his style being a decent fit.  i can see the appeal of having another guy with range on the court along with spradler and mcgruder, assuming they're both back.


the other thing is that i just hate jones because recruiting him is so rough ridin' stupid.  there's no possible way that getting him is a good thing.  every single semi-realistic possibility that leads to an open 'ship for him is a killjoy.  like, if it's mcgruder that sucks because mcgruder's good & is due to get great minutes & for him to want to leave prolly means the whole staff other than figger are constant dicks.  or if it's russell, then it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) because you're kicking out a guy with the exact same skillset as the guy you're bringing in, except the guy you're kicking out is better and has more upside and is from arlington grace prep that produces multiple d1 players each year.  or if it's myles, then the staff are a bunch of giant assholes because they recruited a guy with no real chance of making an impact and then kicked him out a year later knowing it would cost him a year of eligibility.  etc, etc.  it's all just so rough ridin' stupid and depressing.

Currie really should erect a statue to you, at some point in time. Or at least hire you for the GRSOAT. Just sayin.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 24, 2011, 02:00:29 PM
I saw Isaiah PHilmore was transferring. We kind of recruited him and he's looking at some Big 12 schools.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 24, 2011, 04:10:17 PM
I saw Isaiah PHilmore was transferring. We kind of recruited him and he's looking at some Big 12 schools.

Quote
Former Towson player Isaiah Philmore likes Dayton, Delaware State, Missouri, Oklahoma State & Xavier.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ZmoneyKSU on April 24, 2011, 04:33:00 PM
I saw Isaiah PHilmore was transferring. We kind of recruited him and he's looking at some Big 12 schools.

Quote
Former Towson player Isaiah Philmore likes Dayton, Delaware State, Missouri, Oklahoma State & Xavier.

delaware state is legit yall... wish we were on their level
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 25, 2011, 05:07:45 PM
well eff me sideways.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1215630
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2011, 05:07:56 PM
jfc
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 25, 2011, 05:10:36 PM
well eff me sideways.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1215630

Can't read who is it Jones?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 25, 2011, 05:10:58 PM
well eff me sideways.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1215630

Can't read who is it Jones?

both
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2011, 05:11:31 PM
cut and paste, tia
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ew2x4 on April 25, 2011, 05:14:10 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 25, 2011, 05:15:53 PM
well eff me sideways.

http://kansasstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1215630

aw crap :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ew2x4 on April 25, 2011, 05:18:05 PM
Pay Frank.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Cire on April 25, 2011, 05:19:16 PM
Yuck
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 25, 2011, 05:23:53 PM
 :runaway:

Committed - Not Yet Signed
 Jeremy Jones 0 stars SG Liberal, KS
Seward County C.C. 6'1" 160    4/25/11        4/8/11  Matt Figger
 
Omari Lawrence 2 stars SG Concordia, KS
Cloud County C.C. 6'4" 209  2 stars  3/23/11           

 Angel Rodriguez 3 stars PG Miami, FL
Dr. Krop 5'11"    3 stars  11/10/10        10/15/10  Frank Martin, Brad Underwood

 James Watson 0 stars PF Arkansas City, KS
Cowley County C.C. 6'8" 220    4/25/11
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 25, 2011, 05:25:08 PM
That's a spring signing class that would make Jim Wooldridge smile and wink at ya.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2011, 05:25:48 PM
"...we have two spots to fill..."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ew2x4 on April 25, 2011, 05:29:01 PM
Next couple years are going to be ugly.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2011, 05:30:50 PM
"...we have two spots to fill..."

Yeah, sys was correct on that one. I was wrong.

I just heard Cassidy on kman and he confirmed. He said all 4 would sign, likely after Wednesday. That means there will be 2 defections, but he didn't anticipate any "surprises" in those defections.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 25, 2011, 05:33:11 PM
"...we have two spots to fill..."

Yeah, sys was correct on that one. I was wrong.

I just heard Cassidy on kman and he confirmed. He said all 4 would sign, likely after Wednesday. That means there will be 2 defections, but he didn't anticipate any "surprises" in those defections.

Hope it is Irving and Canada.  For some unknown reason I still have hope for Krussell.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 25, 2011, 05:33:35 PM
Nick and Canada? 

Bullshit if 95 doesn't get a schollie.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2011, 05:34:09 PM
"signed" that doesn't mean they all get 'ships, right?

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2011, 05:37:09 PM
"signed" that doesn't mean they all get 'ships, right?



Cassidy indicated he thought all would be on scholarship.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on April 25, 2011, 05:40:49 PM
JFC

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 25, 2011, 05:59:32 PM
this is some bullshit
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 25, 2011, 06:10:22 PM
this is some bullshit
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: scottwildcat on April 25, 2011, 06:29:33 PM
this is some bullshit
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pike on April 25, 2011, 06:34:21 PM
Can we fire 'te yet?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2011, 06:45:01 PM
Is anyone really surprised by this?

I'll only start to get upset a significant player leaves.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 25, 2011, 06:54:12 PM
four transfers in one year.  what a joke.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 25, 2011, 06:55:12 PM
Important to discuss; Angel, Jones, and Watson should be fine as far as adorableness goes.

Omari I'm not so sure, Pullen's Wildcat makeover gives me hope.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 25, 2011, 07:07:13 PM
Angel.

superadorable.  makes up for any deficiencies the rest of the class has.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 25, 2011, 07:35:00 PM
Important to discuss; Angel, Jones, and Watson should be fine as far as adorableness goes.

Omari I'm not so sure, Pullen's Wildcat makeover gives me hope.

(http://i815.photobucket.com/albums/zz78/Stevesie60/lawrence.jpg)

 :barf:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Jackie Moon on April 25, 2011, 08:10:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvfMRsGtRo

 :popcorn:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 25, 2011, 08:13:23 PM
Meh . . .  :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

 :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 25, 2011, 08:40:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvfMRsGtRo

 :popcorn:

Jesus Christ... we have fallen off the rough ridin' cliff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sSsOtnku8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sSsOtnku8M)

 :bwpopcorn: :eye:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on April 25, 2011, 09:22:54 PM
What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have?  This one seriously perplexes me the most.


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on April 25, 2011, 09:29:43 PM
Hope he has the ability to dish out quality fouls.  Never thought I'd say this but I kinda missed Luis last season. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The Whale on April 25, 2011, 09:31:21 PM
jfc


(http://goEMAW.com/forum/Themes/smfone_multicolour/images/post/thumbdown.gif)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 25, 2011, 09:40:36 PM
What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have?

his mother will prolly be the only one that gets pissed at kstate and stops sending them players when martin tosses him aside next season.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 25, 2011, 09:42:05 PM
What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have?  This one seriously perplexes me the most.




didn't he at least have some solid offers out of high school? or am I making that up completely
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 25, 2011, 09:53:09 PM
Quote from: gpc
What a team Frank is putting together...   Reply
The recruiting level keeps going up a notch. CAN YOU EVEN IMAGE WHAT THOMAS GIPSON IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER GREENAWALT!! He is 242 as a high school senior...WOW!! Also a lefty. Omari a lefty..Frank has the market cornered on lefties. This TEAM this fall is going to be really really special. Not only athletic but I feel everyone associated with this program from players to coaches are going to be REALLY REALLY HUNGRY this upcoming season....Just watched the video of the Beast...Omari..Watson...Diaz...Can't WAIT!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 25, 2011, 09:54:43 PM
coach em up Frank
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 25, 2011, 09:57:18 PM
 :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 25, 2011, 10:01:27 PM
What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have?  This one seriously perplexes me the most.




didn't he at least have some solid offers out of high school? or am I making that up completely

Quote
Watson choose the Cougars over Missouri State, Tulsa, Oral Roberts and Wichita State, among other Division I programs.

Baylor and Wyoming also offered.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 25, 2011, 10:09:09 PM
What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have?  This one seriously perplexes me the most.




didn't he at least have some solid offers out of high school? or am I making that up completely

Quote
Watson choose the Cougars over Missouri State, Tulsa, Oral Roberts and Wichita State, among other Division I programs.

Baylor and Wyoming also offered.
:facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 25, 2011, 10:16:59 PM
What redeeming quality does this Watson clown have?  This one seriously perplexes me the most.




didn't he at least have some solid offers out of high school? or am I making that up completely

Quote
Watson choose the Cougars over Missouri State, Tulsa, Oral Roberts and Wichita State, among other Division I programs.

Baylor and Wyoming also offered.
:facepalm:

see? solid. nice.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ew2x4 on April 25, 2011, 10:41:51 PM
A two week coaching search would be more entertaining than watching this class play for 4 years.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 25, 2011, 10:43:28 PM
Does Frank really think he'll stand a snowball's chance in hell with these guys in the BigXII?  Oh wait.  I guess that's why he wanted to GTFO.  :driving:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 25, 2011, 11:10:51 PM
jones seems alright though right
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 25, 2011, 11:18:00 PM
jones seems alright though right

Somebody said that him and Nick are probably about the same skill level, and Nick would probably do the same thing at the JUCO level. It seems like between the 2 of them, having one of them all 4 years is a much better option than having one of them for 2 years and another for 2 years. I totally agree with this assessment.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 25, 2011, 11:30:09 PM
don't forget that jones and watson might be awesome locker room guys, though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on April 25, 2011, 11:52:05 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvfMRsGtRo

 :popcorn:

I'm 35 years with bad knees and I could do all but one of those dunks
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: j-von on April 26, 2011, 12:03:05 AM
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l570/remund/BANNER-1-5.png)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on April 26, 2011, 03:33:24 AM
Quote
Jones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.

 "As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."

Some good offers there.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2011, 07:03:27 AM
Jones is perhaps the best JUCO recruit of the Martin era. Watson is pretty meh, but at least he looks like a long athletic big and not some big, slow post that doesn't fit (Herrera, Asprilla) what Martin is trying to do.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2011, 07:18:59 AM
Quote
Jones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.

 "As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."

Some good offers there.

I don't buy most of those good offers fwiw
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2011, 07:27:45 AM
Quote
Jones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.

 "As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."

Some good offers there.

I don't buy most of those good offers fwiw

If it was just GP or someone reporting those it would be one thing, but from Telep it seems pretty legit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2011, 07:34:20 AM
Quote
Jones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.

 "As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."

Some good offers there.

I don't buy most of those good offers fwiw

If it was just GP or someone reporting those it would be one thing, but from Telep it seems pretty legit.

I know.  Don't buy them anyway.  There's a reason it was down to us and South (or was it Central?) Florida and then later us and Houston. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2011, 07:36:06 AM
congrats goes out to Houston for making a late push and pulling even with the cats though
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2011, 07:41:47 AM
seems just like Nick telling everyone that Duke was recruiting him
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 26, 2011, 07:42:53 AM
Uconn  wanted Luis BAD!!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2011, 07:53:07 AM
Here is my deal on Jones, it doesn't take much looking to see that he was one of the top JUCO guards available for the spring and he got a lot of legitimate attention from decent programs in the last couple weeks. He is not the typical Frank spring signee IMO.

I won't say the same about Watson.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2011, 08:00:21 AM
Here is my deal on Jones, it doesn't take much looking to see that he was one of the top JUCO guards available for the spring and he got a lot of legitimate attention from decent programs in the last couple weeks. He is not the typical Frank spring signee IMO.

I won't say the same about Watson.

Watson at least makes sense in that we would have had a non-frosh big rotation of 2 people....and that is if you call Jamar a big. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2011, 08:06:47 AM
Here is my deal on Jones, it doesn't take much looking to see that he was one of the top JUCO guards available for the spring and he got a lot of legitimate attention from decent programs in the last couple weeks. He is not the typical Frank spring signee IMO.

I won't say the same about Watson.

Watson at least makes sense in that we would have had a non-frosh big rotation of 2 people....and that is if you call Jamar a big. 

I agree that Watson does provide post depth and it makes some sense, but I'm just saying he wasn't nearly as sought after as Jones. I don't think Jones is a Myles, Awaji, or Gilbert level JUCO recruit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2011, 08:10:21 AM
Here is my deal on Jones, it doesn't take much looking to see that he was one of the top JUCO guards available for the spring and he got a lot of legitimate attention from decent programs in the last couple weeks. He is not the typical Frank spring signee IMO.

I won't say the same about Watson.

Watson at least makes sense in that we would have had a non-frosh big rotation of 2 people....and that is if you call Jamar a big. 

I agree that Watson does provide post depth and it makes some sense, but I'm just saying he wasn't nearly as sought after as Jones. I don't think Jones is a Myles, Awaji, or Gilbert level JUCO recruit.

he's blake young
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2011, 08:16:23 AM
he's blake young

That's fair.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 26, 2011, 08:39:05 AM
myles and awaji had equivalent offers.  maybe not as many, but that's because they weren't offer whores.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2011, 08:48:26 AM
myles and awaji had equivalent offers.  maybe not as many, but that's because they weren't offer whores.

People like Telep didn't talk about Myles and Awaji being great pick-ups. You had to scour google to find anything about those guys, there is quite a bit out there about Jones and his recruitment. West Virginia was legitimately recruiting him and all indications are he told them no. Same with Marquette and Indiana. I get the concern that the main players at the end were Houston and South Florida, but I think Jones got some real attention from high majors in the last 2 months.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2011, 08:49:06 AM
Ballin' is a Habit:

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Iowa signs a 26 year old ex-con from the JuCo ranks
   

I think it is safe to say that we know who the most interesting incoming recruit in the country next season will be.

26 year old Anthony Hubbard, who signed with Iowa on Saturday.

He dropped out of high school in the 10th grade in 2002. One of his brothers was killed that same year. And on December 13th, 2003, was charged with four felonies for breaking into a house and robbing and beating a man in that house. Hubbard turned himself in three days later, eventually getting sentenced to three years and eleven months in prison. He reportedly drove the getaway car.

But that incident, as violent as it seems, was apparently an outlying mistake made by a kid than a precursor to a life of crime.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 26, 2011, 08:53:00 AM
(http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh193/stevedaveksu/untitled-6.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 26, 2011, 08:57:10 AM
myles and awaji had equivalent offers.  maybe not as many, but that's because they weren't offer whores.

People like Telep didn't talk about Myles and Awaji being great pick-ups. You had to scour google to find anything about those guys, there is quite a bit out there about Jones and his recruitment. West Virginia was legitimately recruiting him and all indications are he told them no. Same with Marquette and Indiana. I get the concern that the main players at the end were Houston and South Florida, but I think Jones got some real attention from high majors in the last 2 months.

read in a blurb Jones was to vist ASU this month. Not sure if that happened.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2011, 09:01:10 AM
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AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
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Wally Judge will also visit Washington the weekend of May 6 after visiting Maryland this weekend
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 26, 2011, 09:08:36 AM
read in a blurb Jones was to vist ASU this month. Not sure if that happened.

they signed 2 or 3 pgs earlier this month.  pretty sure that ended their involvement with jones.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: fatty fat fat on April 26, 2011, 09:40:06 AM
nice catch hoopers.  :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 26, 2011, 09:55:29 AM
good lord, even kstate fball fans are laughing at us now.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: gowildcatwildcat on April 26, 2011, 12:54:11 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

Or both... :peek:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 26, 2011, 12:56:35 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

Or both... :peek:

Will be pretty shitty if Myles. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on April 26, 2011, 01:09:48 PM
Jones did have quite a few quality programs recruiting him.  Hell, didn't Ol' Roy even make a trip out to Liberal to see him?   And the Nick/Jones comparisons don't see very good to me.  Jones (from what I've seen) seems to be much more free wheeling and active than Nick.  Maybe Tavious is a better comparo?   Regardless, Jones isn't a bad pickup but I don't think swapping him for a Nick or Irving makes much sense.  Maybe Jones plays great D but I certainly didn't see that from him at the JUCO level.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: skycat on April 26, 2011, 01:38:56 PM
FWIW, Watson is ranked #43 on JucoJunction (http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769). Jones is unranked, which seems weird to me if he's as good as reported.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 26, 2011, 01:46:43 PM
FWIW, Watson is ranked #43 on JucoJunction (http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769). Jones is unranked, which seems weird to me if he's as good as reported.

yeah i wouldn't worry much about that. They have guys in their top 20 committed to absolute crap schools while jones had better options than 90% of them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2011, 02:13:56 PM
FWIW, Watson is ranked #43 on JucoJunction (http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769). Jones is unranked, which seems weird to me if he's as good as reported.

yeah i wouldn't worry much about that. They have guys in their top 20 committed to absolute cac schools while jones had better options than 90% of them.

The Juco Junction Top 150 is usually weird.

Asprilla was #2.

Blake Young was #8.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 26, 2011, 02:17:20 PM
FWIW, Watson is ranked #43 on JucoJunction (http://rivals.yahoo.com/jucojunction/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2769). Jones is unranked, which seems weird to me if he's as good as reported.

yeah i wouldn't worry much about that. They have guys in their top 20 committed to absolute cac schools while jones had better options than 90% of them.

The Juco Junction Top 150 is usually weird.

Asprilla was #2.

Blake Young was #8.

yeah. it literally means nothing, and i'm not just saying that because they didn't list a k-state recruit.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheMadCatter on April 26, 2011, 05:19:57 PM
Not sure where it goes, if it has been mentioned, or if it matters, but NC State's Ryan Harrow is transferring.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 26, 2011, 05:37:07 PM
Not sure where it goes, if it has been mentioned, or if it matters, but NC State's Ryan Harrow is transferring.

That's the kind of guy I could get behind running a guy off for. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 26, 2011, 05:46:48 PM
Not sure where it goes, if it has been mentioned, or if it matters, but NC State's Ryan Harrow is transferring.

That's the kind of guy I could get behind running a guy off for. 

do not know who he is. sounds white.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on April 26, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Not sure where it goes, if it has been mentioned, or if it matters, but NC State's Ryan Harrow is transferring.

That's the kind of guy I could get behind running a guy off for. 

do not know who he is. sounds white.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Harrow-83338
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 26, 2011, 05:58:51 PM
Not sure where it goes, if it has been mentioned, or if it matters, but NC State's Ryan Harrow is transferring.

That's the kind of guy I could get behind running a guy off for. 

do not know who he is. sounds white.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Ryan-Harrow-83338

do want
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 26, 2011, 06:00:34 PM
click on the ryan harrow dance video and check out the adorableness
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 26, 2011, 07:54:09 PM
he's blake young

That's fair.

that's depressing. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 26, 2011, 09:32:09 PM
he's blake young

That's fair.

that's depressing. 

eh. only because of how the rest of recruiting has gone.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 26, 2011, 09:53:10 PM
he's blake young

That's fair.

that's depressing. 

eh. only because of how the rest of recruiting has gone.

And that Blake Young underachieved a bit given his status. Of course it was easy to get excited with the quotes from his coach, Art Underwood.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Skipper44 on April 26, 2011, 10:17:20 PM
Blake's knee injury didn't help.  IIRC, he had it scoped mid season and played pretty soon after.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: GetVocalwithCurt on April 26, 2011, 10:36:05 PM
click on the ryan harrow dance video and check out the adorableness

oh my god. i would love to get ryan harrow. i would run off a lot of players to get harrow.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: hatingfrancisco on April 26, 2011, 10:38:29 PM
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Jones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.

 "As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."

Some good offers there.

I don't buy most of those good offers fwiw

Every one of those teams mentioned (minus ASU) was in attendance to watch him play in Dodge City not so long ago... I would say its fairly legit...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2011, 06:26:57 AM
Quote
Jones, a native of the Chicago area, was named the Jayhawk West Conference Player of the Year after averaging 18.9 points at Seward C.C. this season. He chose the Wildcats over Arizona State, Marquette, West Virginia and Oklahoma.

 "As far as junior college guards go, Jones was one of the big guns still left on the board," ESPN's Dave Telep said. "Kansas State worked his extremely hard and fended off plenty of competition for him."

Some good offers there.

I don't buy most of those good offers fwiw

Every one of those teams mentioned (minus ASU) was in attendance to watch him play in Dodge City not so long ago... I would say its fairly legit...

I can assure you that, on the day he committed to KSU, he did not have a legit scholarship offer on the table from most of them.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 27, 2011, 11:03:02 AM
rivals supposedly releasing the updated (final?) 2011 rankings today
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 27, 2011, 11:19:27 AM
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Myles had OFFERS from: Nebraska, Florida, Oklahoma...that I know of.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 27, 2011, 01:28:43 PM
Updated Rivals 150. Gipson and Diaz with slight dip to 147 and 148, they were at 142 and 145 respectively.
Effin Colorado with Cain and Dinwiddie  :curse:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2288
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on April 27, 2011, 03:03:40 PM
Updated Rivals 150. Gipson and Diaz with slight dip to 147 and 148, they were at 142 and 145 respectively.
Effin Colorado with Cain and Dinwiddie  :curse:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2288

Is it just me or did McLemore drop a ton?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on April 27, 2011, 03:16:04 PM
Yeah, I think he dropped about 15 spots.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: beefpac on April 27, 2011, 04:21:27 PM
Yeah, I think he dropped about 15 spots.

I believe he was ranked 17th. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Road Crew on April 27, 2011, 04:25:53 PM
http://www.kscbnews.net/news/index.cfm?nk=5388 (http://www.kscbnews.net/news/index.cfm?nk=5388)

Seward's Jeremy Jones Signs with K-State
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Wearing a K-State hat when he entered the All American Room at SCCC/ATS, Jeremy Jones left no suspense to his signing ceremony.  Seward County Saints Jeremy Jones signed a national letter of intent to play basketball next year for Frank Martin at Kansas State in Manhattan.  Jones made the announcement during a ceremony in the All-American Room at SCCC Wednesday afternoon.  Jones led Seward to the Jayhawk West Championship and a runner up finish in the Region this past year.  Dozens of major universities courted the guard from Chicago before he narrowed it down to two earlier this week.  Houston was the other finalist.

An complete interview with Jones can be heard tommorrow morning on 'The Sportsguys' between 7:37 and 9 am on 1270 KSCB AM.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 27, 2011, 04:59:11 PM
Thanks road crew
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 27, 2011, 10:39:48 PM
four transfers in one year.  what a joke.

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"I should be putting something out next week about all that, but we're pleased with the two guys who signed early with us," said Martin, who added that Diaz will not attend prep school next season. "Next week, guys. Next week, I'll talk to people about all that."

Of course, Kelly topped off his coaches words with a familiar garnish. When the departing forward was asked about the offseason feeling surrounding the roster, he pointed out that departures are a part of every big-time program.

"Some people are going to move in and some people are going to move out," Kelly said, before using his final sentence to draw a last laugh.

"I don't know what's going to happen, but I pray for each and every one of them," he said.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 28, 2011, 07:10:49 AM
How the eff is Curtis Kelly's jersey not in the rafters?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on April 28, 2011, 07:32:58 AM
How the eff is Curtis Kelly's jersey not in the rafters?

:ck:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2011, 07:34:17 AM
On Kelly  :ck:

But LOL at Frank . . . really.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 28, 2011, 07:36:04 AM
I want to know how the conversation goes. I mean, how does Frank say "GTFO"?? Does he let them down gently, using the "it's not you, it's me" line??
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 28, 2011, 07:40:36 AM
I want to know how the conversation goes. I mean, how does Frank say "GTFO"?? Does he let them down gently, using the "it's not you, it's me" line??

Frank- "Dalonte, did you get your pay check this month?"

Dalonte- "Yeah."

Frank- "Go make sure Nick and Jeuvol have passed their classes and then tell them their scholarships are gone. Oh, and bring me a Diet Dr. Pepper.  Thanks."
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2011, 07:42:51 AM
I want to know how the conversation goes. I mean, how does Frank say "GTFO"?? Does he let them down gently, using the "it's not you, it's me" line??

Frank- "Dalonte, did you get your pay check this month?"

Dalonte- "Yeah."

Frank- "Go make sure Nick and Jeuvol have passed their classes and then tell them their scholarships are gone. Oh, and bring me a Diet Dr. Pepper.  Thanks."

lol
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2011, 09:20:29 AM
We're in for a protracted Kruger'ing on the recruiting front it appears.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 28, 2011, 09:47:09 AM


Sporting News:

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Top-50 point guard prospect Chris Jones of Memphis will not attend Tennessee and instead will enroll in a junior college, The Commercial Appeal reported.

Jones’ coach at Melrose High, Jermaine Johnson, told the newspaper that Jones will play for former Tennessee assistant Steve Forbes at Northwest Florida State College, where Forbes accepted the head coaching job in early April.

"He can concentrate on getting better mentally and physically," Johnson said.

Ranked No. 39 among class of 2011 prospects by Rivals.com, Jones had talked about escaping his letter of intent after Tennessee fired coach oscar Pearl in March but later said he would join the Vols.

Whether he’ll be at Northwest Florida for one or two seasons would depend upon whether he graduates from Melrose as a full academic qualifier under NCAA rules. The Commercial Appeal reported there were questions about whether Jones would meet the required standards to be eligible to play Division I basketball as a freshman.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2011-04-28/top-point-guard-to-bypass-tennessee-go-to-junior-college#ixzz1KpTsw81t
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 28, 2011, 01:17:56 PM
We're in for a protracted Kruger'ing on the recruiting front it appears.


Even though his name doesn't lean himself well to a verb I think Lew Hill is the coach that's going to eff you guys up at the ass on the recruiting front for Oklahoma. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2011, 01:37:17 PM
We're in for a protracted Kruger'ing on the recruiting front it appears.


Even though his name doesn't lean himself well to a verb I think Lew Hill is the coach that's going to eff you guys up at the ass on the recruiting front for Oklahoma. 

Just a hunch here but I would guess he is referencing the period in K-State B-Ball history in which Lon Kruger mailed it in with recruiting during his final year(s)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on April 28, 2011, 01:41:30 PM
We're in for a protracted Kruger'ing on the recruiting front it appears.


Even though his name doesn't lean himself well to a verb I think Lew Hill is the coach that's going to eff you guys up at the ass on the recruiting front for Oklahoma. 

Just a hunch here but I would guess he is referencing the period in K-State B-Ball history in which Lon Kruger mailed it in with recruiting during his final year(s)
Damn it, I am finally in a position to feel semi-confident about my program and I want to take noise to you rough ridin' plebes from Kansas.  Faawwwwwwwwwwwwkkkk
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 28, 2011, 01:42:54 PM
We're in for a protracted Kruger'ing on the recruiting front it appears.


Even though his name doesn't lean himself well to a verb I think Lew Hill is the coach that's going to eff you guys up at the ass on the recruiting front for Oklahoma. 

Just a hunch here but I would guess he is referencing the period in K-State B-Ball history in which Lon Kruger mailed it in with recruiting during his final year(s)
Damn it, I am finally in a position to feel semi-confident about my program and I want to take noise to you rough ridin' plebes from Kansas.  Faawwwwwwwwwwwwkkkk

I wouldn't worry about it.  you are by far our best OU poster.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on April 28, 2011, 02:23:57 PM
http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/04/28/a-few-minutes-with-omari-lawrence/
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 28, 2011, 02:38:32 PM
http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/04/28/a-few-minutes-with-omari-lawrence/




http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/04/28/a-few-minutes-with-omari-lawrence/

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What made you choose K-State?

I just liked the whole coaching staff, and I have a close relationship with Curtis Kelly and Shane Southwell. And I also built a good relationship with Frank Martin when I reached out to him when I was changing schools.

So you reached out to him when you knew you were going to transfer from St. John’s

No, he actually called me. The staff called me. Frank and Brad Underwood were the main guys who recruited me. They’re both good guys.


:dubious:


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 28, 2011, 02:46:13 PM
lol, frank lied right to cassidy's handsome face  :lol:

or omari lied right to robinette's smelly face :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on April 28, 2011, 02:52:48 PM
Quote
Myles had OFFERS from: Nebraska, Florida, Oklahoma...that I know of.

Am I the only one who calls bullcac on the Florida offer?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 28, 2011, 03:26:03 PM
lol, frank lied right to cassidy's handsome face  :lol:

or omari lied right to robinette's smelly face :dunno:

great job by robinette of forcing one of ol' lying martin's lies out into the open.  the pen is mightier than the hurtful postgame presser mockery indeed.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on April 28, 2011, 03:53:48 PM
I want to know how the conversation goes. I mean, how does Frank say "GTFO"?? Does he let them down gently, using the "it's not you, it's me" line??

Frank- "Dalonte, did you get your pay check this month?"

Dalonte- "Yeah."

Frank- "Go make sure Nick and Jeuvol have passed their classes and then tell them their scholarships are gone. Oh, and bring me a Diet Dr. Pepper.  Thanks."

anyone remember the game this year when frank yelled at 'te for giving him a pop?  'te's handing out beverages to the staff after a timeout like a waiter and he hands frank a soda...frank looks at him, get's pissed and says "no, I wanted the f'ing water". 
 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 28, 2011, 04:08:15 PM
Quote
Myles had OFFERS from: Nebraska, Florida, Oklahoma...that I know of.

Am I the only one who calls bullcac on the Florida offer?

no, you are not. but lets RUN with it all the same
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on April 28, 2011, 10:28:10 PM
DaveTelep Dave Telep
Kevin Ware de-commits from Central Florida. Speechless. Said it before, tough to max out potential when pulled in too many directions
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 28, 2011, 10:39:56 PM
i don't like ucf anymore.  they are injecting too much entropy into florida & surroundings recruiting.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 29, 2011, 11:08:14 AM
i don't like ucf anymore.  they are injecting too much entropy into florida & surroundings recruiting.

Interesting thought.  What does entropy mean?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: treysolid on April 29, 2011, 11:13:01 AM
i don't like ucf anymore.  they are injecting too much entropy into florida & surroundings recruiting.

Interesting thought.  What does entropy mean?

entropy is the natural tendency of the universe towards disorder or randomness (chaos).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Gooch on April 29, 2011, 01:37:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvfMRsGtRo

 :popcorn:

I'm 35 years with bad knees and I could do all but one of those dunks
<------------ late to the party here but I'm calling bullshit on this one. :dubious:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 29, 2011, 01:39:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYvfMRsGtRo

 :popcorn:

I'm 35 years with bad knees and I could do all but one of those dunks
<------------ late to the party here but I'm calling bullshit on this one. :dubious:


Pretty sure MIR is a black dude.  They can all jump really high so I'm not going to doubt him.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on April 29, 2011, 01:42:38 PM
True.  I've had more than one 35 yr old black guy with bad knees dunk on my head.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 29, 2011, 02:29:47 PM
Speaking of decommits/releases from LOIs... Have there been any rumors of Gipson potentially requesting a release?

Not trying to stir up crap or anything... There's a rumor out that one of the DFW kids in the Rivals 150 is considering asking for a release from an LOI. There are only 5 or 6 viable candidates, and most of those are even less likely than Gipson. Especially when the rumor popped up right after you guys landed not one but two JUCO posts.

I thought Gipson was totally on board with you guys, so at first I didn't think it could be him. Any anxieties over him sticking with your class?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 02:33:31 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2011, 02:34:23 PM
Speaking of decommits/releases from LOIs... Have there been any rumors of Gipson potentially requesting a release?

Not trying to stir up crap or anything... There's a rumor out that one of the DFW kids in the Rivals 150 is considering asking for a release from an LOI. There are only 5 or 6 viable candidates, and most of those are even less likely than Gipson. Especially when the rumor popped up right after you guys landed not one but two JUCO posts.

I thought Gipson was totally on board with you guys, so at first I didn't think it could be him. Any anxieties over him sticking with your class?

He did have a few weird tweets copied on here a few weeks ago about how everyone was transfering and that people needed to stay where they were, or some crap like that.

I will officially blame the Greek if this happens.  

Also, pretty obvious that the whole Tony fiasco was N Tex's doing now that it has fully played out.

Greek, why is your school sabotaging ours?  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 29, 2011, 02:41:20 PM
Speaking of decommits/releases from LOIs... Have there been any rumors of Gipson potentially requesting a release?

Not trying to stir up crap or anything... There's a rumor out that one of the DFW kids in the Rivals 150 is considering asking for a release from an LOI. There are only 5 or 6 viable candidates, and most of those are even less likely than Gipson. Especially when the rumor popped up right after you guys landed not one but two JUCO posts.

I thought Gipson was totally on board with you guys, so at first I didn't think it could be him. Any anxieties over him sticking with your class?

He did have a few weird tweets copied on here a few weeks ago about how everyone was transfering and that people needed to stay where they were, or some crap like that.

I will officially blame the Greek if this happens. 

Also, pretty obvious that the whole Tony fiasco was N Tex's doing now that it has fully played out.

Greek, why is your school sabotaging ours? 

Again... I don't know anything for sure. But the rumors are coming from the same place as the "T-Mitch to North Texas" one did.

Honestly, I don't think losing Gipson would be a huge loss for you guys. I don't know that he'd ever be more than a roleplayer on a competitive Big 12 team.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 29, 2011, 02:42:47 PM
 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 02:43:43 PM
 :frown:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 29, 2011, 02:45:21 PM
AND nobody has said the player in question is Gipson. He's just one of the few that would make sense.

Didn't know about the twitter stuff, and the JUCO influx coupled with the defections make it seem like I shouldn't have ruled him out.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2011, 02:45:56 PM
So 95 gets a 'ship after all and I have to unfollow @biggipfan

'grats Pancakes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 29, 2011, 02:48:11 PM
from his tweets & facebook, that would be extremely surprising.


kstate has landed not one, but zero, juco posts.  although it is strongly rumored that watson will sign in the near future (or already has but hasn't announced).
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2011, 02:49:33 PM
from his tweets & facebook, that would be extremely surprising.


kstate has landed not one, but zero, juco posts.  although it is strongly rumored that watson will sign in the near future (or already has but hasn't announced).

Thought Watson was announced at the same time as Omari and others?   :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 29, 2011, 02:51:57 PM
from his tweets & facebook, that would be extremely surprising.


kstate has landed not one, but zero, juco posts.  although it is strongly rumored that watson will sign in the near future (or already has but hasn't announced).

If I'm wrong on that, sorry. Heard "2 JUCO posts" second-hand. I don't follow you guys as closely as you do yourselves, obviously.

Again, not trying to cause a panic or start a shitstorm. I didn't think Gipson was one of the likelier suspects; just trying to figure out whether there was any reason to think he might be.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 29, 2011, 02:54:47 PM
Thought Watson was announced at the same time as Omari and others?   :dunno:

no, cassidy reported that he committed.  but then there's been nothing about him signing despite signing confirmos for ar-t, lawrence and jones.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 29, 2011, 02:54:55 PM
It's not gipson
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 29, 2011, 02:57:03 PM
Again, not trying to cause a panic or start a shitstorm. I didn't think Gipson was one of the likelier suspects; just trying to figure out whether there was any reason to think he might be.

it's not a problem, just expressing how unlikely i think it is that the rumor refers to gipson.  if i see anything on who it might be, i'll post it here.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2011, 02:57:55 PM
It's not gipson

 :pbj:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2011, 02:58:56 PM
Thought Watson was announced at the same time as Omari and others?   :dunno:

no, cassidy reported that he committed.  but then there's been nothing about him signing despite signing confirmos for ar-t, lawrence and jones.

Interesting.  Doesn't that mean that we still have a 'ship to fill(assuming 95 doesn't get it)?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 03:00:06 PM
It's not gipson

spill the beans  :dubious:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 29, 2011, 03:09:28 PM
It's not gipson

spill the beans  :dubious:

his rough ridin' facebook name is thomas kansas state gipson. he knows family of mine from the dallas area, they've seen him just walking around in k-state gear. he loves frank. i think i even know a guy he's living with in manhattan. there's just no way, dudes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 03:10:25 PM
It's not gipson

spill the beans  :dubious:

his rough ridin' facebook name is thomas kansas state gipson. he knows family of mine from the dallas area, they've seen him just walking around in k-state gear. he loves frank. i think i even know a guy he's living with in manhattan. there's just no way, dudes.

oh, I thought you knew who was leaving (in addition to Nick).  disregard request for spilled beans. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on April 29, 2011, 03:11:54 PM
Did Gip just say something on twitter or FB, bitching about people who try to get out of their commitments?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 29, 2011, 03:12:02 PM
It's not gipson

spill the beans  :dubious:

his rough ridin' facebook name is thomas kansas state gipson. he knows family of mine from the dallas area, they've seen him just walking around in k-state gear. he loves frank. i think i even know a guy he's living with in manhattan. there's just no way, dudes.

oh, I thought you knew who was leaving (in addition to Nick).  disregard request for spilled beans. 

oh, no i don't. could actually see it being jamar though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 03:13:57 PM
It's not gipson

spill the beans  :dubious:

his rough ridin' facebook name is thomas kansas state gipson. he knows family of mine from the dallas area, they've seen him just walking around in k-state gear. he loves frank. i think i even know a guy he's living with in manhattan. there's just no way, dudes.

oh, I thought you knew who was leaving (in addition to Nick).  disregard request for spilled beans.  

oh, no i don't. could actually see it being jamar though.

how bad would that suck.  also, he would have to transfer down a division, right?  already spent his RS.  Unless he does that grant gregory/murda thing that I thought was outlawed but maybe not.  It can't be anyone but canada or irving. just can't.  nobody else even remotely makes sense.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on April 29, 2011, 03:18:54 PM
me:  are you ready to be a wildcat?

thomas gipson:  yea


mystery solved.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 29, 2011, 03:19:55 PM
It's not gipson

spill the beans  :dubious:

his rough ridin' facebook name is thomas kansas state gipson. he knows family of mine from the dallas area, they've seen him just walking around in k-state gear. he loves frank. i think i even know a guy he's living with in manhattan. there's just no way, dudes.

oh, I thought you knew who was leaving (in addition to Nick).  disregard request for spilled beans. 

oh, no i don't. could actually see it being jamar though.

how bad would that suck.  also, he would have to transfer down a division, right?  already spent his RS.  Unless he does that grant gregory/murda thing that I thought was outlawed but maybe not.  It can't be anyone but canada or irving. just can't.  nobody else even remotely makes sense.

would definitely suck. keep in mind i have no info though, just going off weird tweets and sort of bad feelings. jamar is kind of an enigma, i've literally never seen him out or hanging with gruds and the group at tubs are anything. hope he stays.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on April 29, 2011, 03:23:36 PM
me:  are you ready to be a wildcat?

thomas gipson:  yea


mystery solved.

then he basically called TheTastyGreek's mother a whore, in not as many words. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on April 29, 2011, 03:24:18 PM
me:  are you ready to be a wildcat?

thomas gipson:  yea


mystery solved.

what is this sweeps week at goEMAW ? The scoops are rolling in faster than I can keep up with them
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 29, 2011, 03:27:30 PM
Interesting.  Doesn't that mean that we still have a 'ship to fill(assuming 95 doesn't get it)?

95 and his english bulldog pup have no shot, no matter what happens.  almost certainly, watson will sign, or he has signed and it hasn't come out yet.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on April 29, 2011, 03:28:43 PM
whoever is FauxFrankMartin on twitter, I keep forgetting to tell you how great you are at twittering. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 03:33:29 PM
whoever is FauxFrankMartin on twitter, I keep forgetting to tell you how great you are at twittering.  

I would be a much more hilarious frank martin on twitter.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on April 29, 2011, 03:34:31 PM
gotcha.  steve dave IS NOT FauxFrankMartin


P.S., I just asked 95 if he's getting a 'ship.  This twitter thing is pretty helpful to get info.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on April 29, 2011, 03:37:20 PM
P.S., I just asked 95 if he's getting a 'ship.  This twitter thing is pretty helpful to get info.

I wouldn't rub it in.  0%
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on April 29, 2011, 03:48:36 PM
Quote
FauxFrankMartin FakeFrankMartin
@
@oklahomacat hey tuck, leave my kids alone. Silly and selfish

yes, he is doing fine.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on April 29, 2011, 03:49:19 PM
I followed fake frank martin and didn't think he was very funny.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on April 29, 2011, 03:50:13 PM
P.S., I just asked 95 if he's getting a 'ship.  This twitter thing is pretty helpful to get info.

I wouldn't rub it in.  0%

i'm normally not an ass to our players, i just ask nicely.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on April 29, 2011, 03:51:27 PM

P.S., I just asked 95 if he's getting a 'ship.  This twitter thing is pretty helpful to get info.

 :facepalm:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 29, 2011, 03:53:03 PM
I followed fake frank martin and didn't think he was very funny.

pretty hit or miss for me.

Also, i want to shake the hand of the guy behind Fake Bo Pelini.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheTastyGreek on April 29, 2011, 03:54:31 PM
me:  are you ready to be a wildcat?

thomas gipson:  yea


mystery solved.

then he basically called TheTastyGreek's mother a whore, in not as many words. 

Good build, AND he's an efficient public speaker.

Maybe I'm underrating Mr. Gipson?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kstatefreak42 on April 29, 2011, 04:33:20 PM
Facebook and Twitter have become a useful tool in getting information about your favorite team. Weird.






Stalkers.   :cool:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: OK_Cat on April 29, 2011, 04:36:13 PM
Facebook and Twitter have become a useful tool in getting information about your favorite team. Weird.






Stalkers.   :cool:

that was your thing, and you bowed to peer pressure. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on April 29, 2011, 04:49:29 PM
whoever is FauxFrankMartin on twitter, I keep forgetting to tell you how great you are at twittering. 

Are you actually FauxFrankMartin and you're just trying to get people to follow you?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on April 29, 2011, 05:32:39 PM
I followed fake frank martin and didn't think he was very funny.
yeah very lame so is the ron prince one......so much potential with both of those but they are terrible
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 29, 2011, 09:07:27 PM
ware story.  pertains to smith, obviously.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2011/04/30/sports/ncaabasketball/30recruit.xml
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 30, 2011, 12:02:14 AM
longer version.  love this quote.

Quote
He denies being a runner, but said if he were he would be “the best in the country, and you could not stop me.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/30/sports/ncaabasketball/30recruit.html?_r=1&src=tptw
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on April 30, 2011, 10:22:03 AM
more (not ucf related).

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6453773
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on April 30, 2011, 11:25:37 AM
more (not ucf related).

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6453773

 :lol: So how long will the investigation into Anderson's amateur status last?   :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on April 30, 2011, 11:27:14 AM
longer version.  love this quote.

Quote
He denies being a runner, but said if he were he would be “the best in the country, and you could not stop me.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/30/sports/ncaabasketball/30recruit.html?_r=1&src=tptw

Damn, that's crazy. UCF :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 02, 2011, 05:10:35 PM
#7 and #33.

http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EMAWzified on May 02, 2011, 05:29:25 PM
Solid Wooley like effort.
Hope Jones surprises.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 03, 2011, 08:23:32 AM
#7 and #33.

http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434

Solid for Martin spring JUCO recruiting. JMHO.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 03, 2011, 10:21:57 AM
#7 and #33.

http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434

Quote
have Scouted JCs for 30+ years, never heard [or SEEN @ games] this person...
...looks like he compiles Players Info via other's lists???
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 03, 2011, 10:44:41 AM
#7 and #33.

http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434

Quote
have Scouted JCs for 30+ years, never heard [or SEEN @ games] this person...
...looks like he compiles Players Info via other's lists???

The site is less than a year old.

Quote
Staff: Here are a few of our staff members who evaluate prospects for your program

Brad Winton – President/National Recruiting Director – Brad is the President and National Recruiting Director for JucoRecruiting.com and Elite Basketball Services, LLC.  Brad spent 7 years as an assistant and head coach at the collegiate and professional levels before founding JucoRecruiting.com and Elite Basketball’s Scouting Service. Brad evaluates junior college and post grad prep school prospects on a national scale. He is also involved with evaluating international prospects. Winton holds a bachelor’s degree in sports management and business administration from Indiana Tech. He works out of Cleveland, OH and Tampa, FL. You can contact Brad at [email protected]

Willis Brown – West Coast Recruiting Director – Before joining Elite Basketball/JucoRecruiting.com, Brown spent fourteen years as college assistant and head coach, with stops at the NCAA D1, D3, NAIA, and JUCO levels. Brown evaluates junior college and prep school prospects on the west coast and works out of Las Vegas, NV. Brown holds a bachelor’s degree in sports management from Baldwin-Wallace College.

Doug Viegas - Director of International Recruiting – Viegas grew up in Sao Paulo, Brazil and came to the United States in high school to pursue athletic and academic endeavors. Upon graduation, Viegas spent two years playing at Lakeland Community College. After Lakeland, Viegas received a scholarship to play for Dereck Whittenburg at NCAA D1 Wagner College. He was a starter on Wagner’s NCAA Tournament team, and graduated with a bachelor’s degree in business. He then moved on to play professionally in Brazil’s top league for seven years. Viegas now resides in Sao Paulo and serves as an international scout.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 12:01:29 PM
#7 and #33.

http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434

just noticed anthony downing at #58 going to missouri state.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on May 04, 2011, 12:40:09 PM
#7 and #33.

http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434

just noticed anthony downing at #58 going to missouri state.
yep.. im familiar with all the downings. i was upset he didn't stick around with the ksu cats..
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TheMadCatter on May 04, 2011, 01:56:38 PM
Downing crashed on a friend of mine's couch for a couple weeks at the start of the '08 school year.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 04, 2011, 02:16:56 PM
Quote
@Collegiate_hoop: 2011 SG Kevin Ware of Rockdale County (GA) has a list of Georgia, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisville & UCLA.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on May 04, 2011, 02:22:22 PM
Quote
@Collegiate_hoop: 2011 SG Kevin Ware of Rockdale County (GA) has a list of Georgia, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisville & UCLA.

 :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2011, 02:24:21 PM
Quote
@Collegiate_hoop: 2011 SG Kevin Ware of Rockdale County (GA) has a list of Georgia, Kansas, Kansas State, Louisville & UCLA.

the eff
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 02:47:13 PM
you can't hit double digit transfers on a triennial basis without upping the pace.  looks like they're bringing in ware and sending watson on his transfer recruiting visits a year ahead of schedule.



i think that's actually just dated info being tweeted about though.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 04, 2011, 02:52:54 PM
i think that's actually just dated info being tweeted about though.

http://twitter.com/#!/_incrediblekid/status/65588344209416192
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2011, 02:53:33 PM
i think that's actually just dated info being tweeted about though.

http://twitter.com/#!/_incrediblekid/status/65588344209416192

the eff
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 02:56:14 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/_incrediblekid/status/65588344209416192

not an old tweet; new tweet containing old info.  i could be wrong, but my first guess is the guy just tweeted the updated list from ware's espn profile, which i think just reverted back to the list they had for him before he committed to ucf.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 04, 2011, 03:00:19 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/_incrediblekid/status/65588344209416192

not an old tweet; new tweet containing old info.  i could be wrong, but my first guess is the guy just tweeted the updated list from ware's espn profile, which i think just reverted back to the list they had for him before he committed to ucf.

incrediblekid = ware.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2011, 03:03:29 PM
Quote
no order kstate, kansas, uga, ucla, uofl

 :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2011, 03:04:53 PM
explains the fact that Watson hasn't signed?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on May 04, 2011, 03:07:19 PM
explains the fact that Watson hasn't signed?

Scoops Callahan:

Quote
James Watson the Washington State guy signed a national letter of intent with Kansas State yesterday.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
http://twitter.com/#!/_incrediblekid/status/65588344209416192

not an old tweet; new tweet containing old info.  i could be wrong, but my first guess is the guy just tweeted the updated list from ware's espn profile, which i think just reverted back to the list they had for him before he committed to ucf.

incrediblekid = ware.

oh.

i followed him, or someone i thought was him for a week or so, a couple of weeks back.  didn't/don't recognize the (new?) name.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on May 04, 2011, 03:15:40 PM
explains the fact that Watson hasn't signed?

Scoops Callahan:

Quote
James Watson the Washington State guy signed a national letter of intent with Kansas State yesterday.

Quote
KellisRobinett - Cowley College says former Washington State forward James Watson hasn't signed with K-State. Could happen soon, but nothing official yet.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2011, 03:16:21 PM
SCOOPS!  :shakesfist:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 03:17:25 PM
http://twitter.com/_snapbackboy35

pretty sure this was the old name.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 04, 2011, 03:18:24 PM
he picks interesting twitter names
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 04, 2011, 03:58:00 PM
explains the fact that Watson hasn't signed?

robinett boom scoops everybody.

Quote
Cowley College says former Washington State forward James Watson hasn't signed with K-State. Could happen soon, but nothing official yet.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 04, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
oh sys.  :lol:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on May 04, 2011, 04:13:40 PM
Frank,

We will act like you're awesome, man, and pretend, in our minds, that no one has ever transferred, that we liked, and no juco players were ever signed in the spring, if, Ware comes here.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CatsFan_58 on May 04, 2011, 04:19:00 PM
Frank,

We will act like you're awesome, man, and pretend, in our minds, that no one has ever transferred, that we liked, and no juco players were ever signed in the spring, if, Ware comes here.
yeah
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on May 04, 2011, 04:24:52 PM
Rivals doesn't show an offer from us for Ware.  What's up with that crap?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 04, 2011, 04:31:34 PM


 :emawkid:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: nicname on May 04, 2011, 04:32:39 PM
Are we full?  OU commit Robert Goff, a soph from Hutch CC just decommited and is now entertaining offers.

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 04, 2011, 04:34:08 PM
Are we full?  OU commit Robert Goff, a soph from Hutch CC just decommited and is now entertaining offers.



I think I read Goff was basically told he wasn't wanted by Kruger and that he was looking somewhere down in the southeast at a smaller school.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 04, 2011, 04:38:10 PM
Are we full?  OU commit Robert Goff, a soph from Hutch CC just decommited and is now entertaining offers.



I think I read Goff was basically told he wasn't wanted by Kruger and that he was looking somewhere down in the southeast at a smaller school.

Goff stuff, sounds like the big boys are staying away this time and probably for good reason.

http://www.hutchnews.com/Jucodaily/0503-goff
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: gowildcatwildcat on May 04, 2011, 05:44:51 PM
If Jones comes, does that mean Nick or Myles is gonzo?

Or both... :peek:

 :blindfold:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on May 04, 2011, 05:50:07 PM
Are we full?  OU commit Robert Goff, a soph from Hutch CC just decommited and is now entertaining offers.



I think I read Goff was basically told he wasn't wanted by Kruger and that he was looking somewhere down in the southeast at a smaller school.

Goff stuff, sounds like the big boys are staying away this time and probably for good reason.

http://www.hutchnews.com/Jucodaily/0503-goff
I dont if Goff will qualify, wouldnt attend class or some crap in juco.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on May 05, 2011, 12:33:17 PM
Quote
sn_ncaab Sporting News
by tsnmike
Star of George Mason NCAA upset of Villanova may transfer http://dlvr.it/QlNPM
54 seconds ago
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 05, 2011, 01:01:06 PM
Quote from: Jeff Goodman
Former Oklahoma signee Robert Goff is headed to play for Tom Herrion at Marshall, source told FOXSports.com.

We'll see if that whole "grades" thing will work out for Rob.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 05, 2011, 01:03:50 PM
If anybody gives a crap, Cody Mann, Rodriguez's backcourt mate at Krop, has signed with Colorado St.

http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20110429/UPDATES02/110429011/CSU-men-s-hoops-team-signs-point-guard-from-Miami
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 06, 2011, 12:30:21 PM
Well, sounds like Watson's letter was received.  I'm rough ridin' confused again. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 06, 2011, 01:26:53 PM
Does Frank know he doesn't have to honor the offers he's made once he fills his scholarships? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 06, 2011, 01:42:04 PM
Does Frank know he doesn't have to honor the offers he's made once he fills his scholarships? 

Abdul Herrera told me that he doesn't
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wabash909 on May 06, 2011, 09:48:17 PM
Does Frank know he doesn't have to honor the offers he's made once he fills his scholarships? 

It's ok.  He'll just be next year's Canadian.


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 06, 2011, 11:05:29 PM
He'll just be next year's Canadian.

i wonder if martin searches out jucos who've redshirted?  he may find that forcing normal jucos to transfer doesn't inflict enough pain on innocent youngsters.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on May 07, 2011, 12:28:35 AM
He'll just be next year's Canadian.

i wonder if martin searches out jucos who've redshirted?  he may find that forcing normal jucos to transfer doesn't inflict enough pain on innocent youngsters.
Should've got Goff then. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 07, 2011, 12:32:08 PM
Gary Williams retiring and Sean Miller potentially taking the Maryland job could open up the recruits Miller had signed that were also considering ku.  F*cking carousel always helps out ku. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EMAWzified on May 07, 2011, 12:44:43 PM
I think Arizona was Lon's dream job. Think he'd switch (if they'd have him)?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on May 07, 2011, 04:15:26 PM
Gary Williams retiring and Sean Miller potentially taking the Maryland job could open up the recruits Miller had signed that were also considering ku.  F*cking carousel always helps out ku. 

Turner and Chol.  would make ku's class pretty damn good.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SoonerHoopsfan on May 07, 2011, 07:01:16 PM
I think Arizona was Lon's dream job. Think he'd switch (if they'd have him)?
eff and no
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 07, 2011, 08:05:44 PM
Should've got Goff then. 

goff is not a sympathetic enough figure.  only the blood of innocents will sate martin's black heart's thirst.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: oodfan on May 09, 2011, 01:49:25 PM
Didn't see it posted anywhere on here.  But we have a new walk-on.  http://www.examiner.net/sports/highschoolsports/x173162038/Blue-Springs-South-s-Meyer-walks-on-with-Kansas-State-basketball

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 09, 2011, 02:08:57 PM
Didn't see it posted anywhere on here.  But we have a new walk-on.  http://www.examiner.net/sports/highschoolsports/x173162038/Blue-Springs-South-s-Meyer-walks-on-with-Kansas-State-basketball



Quote
Meyer found out Wednesday that he had been given preferred walk-on status with the team.

“Basically, it means I’m a member of the K-State basketball team, and I get to enjoy everything the scholarship players enjoy – I’m just not on a scholarship.”

Quote
“I’ll do whatever they want, but I think most of the time I’ll be distributing the ball,"

At least he knows he isn't there for an engineering degree
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 09, 2011, 04:13:24 PM
At least he knows he isn't there for an engineering degree

actually, he more or less is.  construction science or something like that.  bet he'll quit the team pretty soon.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 09, 2011, 04:19:33 PM
I'm assuming he's taking Potz's role of increasing our average GPA.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 10, 2011, 04:29:24 PM
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27".  If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 10, 2011, 04:30:05 PM
Anxiously awaiting that next Dante Holmes update  :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 10, 2011, 04:47:08 PM
Anxiously awaiting that next Dante Holmes update  :users:

goddamnit, underdog wildcat.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 10, 2011, 04:50:39 PM
Anxiously awaiting that next Dante Holmes update  :users:

goddamnit, underdog wildcat.

Seriously, edge of my seat, cliffhanger stuff here.  :runaway:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 10, 2011, 10:58:46 PM
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have Scouted JCs for 30+ years, never heard [or SEEN @ games] this person...
...looks like he compiles Players Info via other's lists???


winton laughs at the silliness.

Quote
There are several ways to see them all play. You guys are correct about the lack of AAU, which does make it difficult to see all of them in a short period of time and makes it even more difficult to rank them when a lot never go head to head.

That being said, there are two events in the summer (during the live recruiting period for D1's in July) where I can see the majority of the top JUCO players going into their sophomore year. One is Jerry Mullen's JUCO Top 120 Camp, which is normally held at Oral Robers University in Tulsa. It has been moved to St. Louis this year due to the NCAA's new ruling on AAU and other exposure events not being allowed on a D1 campus. The other is the All American JUCO Showcase in Vegas, which is held during the same time as the Adidas Super 64 and other high level AAU events. This is similar to the Mullens event, but will sometimes have more kids from the out west.

Another way for me to "see all of them" are JUCO Jamborees. These are pre season events that are held in October and are considered scrimmages. These are team events that have more than 60 teams from across the country. There are several of these in different regions of the country. There is a large one in Dallas that has the best teams from Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma, Iowa, Illinois, etc. There is also one in Atlanta that has some of the better teams from the southeast. Some are out West as well. I'm sure you get the idea.

Of course you still have regular season games, large holiday tournaments, conference tournaments, regional tournaments and the NJCAA D1, D2 and D3 National Tournaments. Keep in mind I do see most players as freshman, throughout the summer, pre season events and their entire sophomore year. After that the final rankings are released.

Somebody also mentioned film. They are correct as well. This is not a 2 minute highlight film with Jay Z blaring. Junior college coaches send me full game film, sometimes several from each school. Film is usually an even better tool to evaluate b/c I can actually stop and rewind. I can also keep an eye on the same player for multiple possessions, then rewind and take a look at another player. Many schools will also stream their games online as well.

Sorry for being long winded, but I figured my boy, ballplayers, needed a detailed explanation. I hope that clears things up for everybody. There is a decent amount of travel involved, but the summer events and the JUCO jamborees allow me to see hundreds of players in two or three days.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: scoops callahan on May 14, 2011, 01:24:38 PM
explains the fact that Watson hasn't signed?

Scoops Callahan:

Quote
James Watson the Washington State guy signed a national letter of intent with Kansas State yesterday.

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KellisRobinett - Cowley College says former Washington State forward James Watson hasn't signed with K-State. Could happen soon, but nothing official yet.


you're dumb.

http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?p=443 (april 26th)
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/05/06/2854810/k-state-signs-power-forward-james.html (may 6th)

im right, youre wrong. hop off
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Tobias on May 14, 2011, 06:15:10 PM
meek article on watson.  have to admit i haven't really paid too much attention to him, but an interesting story.

(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/photos/spt051511watsonRonald.jpg)

http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat (http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on May 15, 2011, 09:48:59 AM
meek article on watson.  have to admit i haven't really paid too much attention to him, but an interesting story.

(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/photos/spt051511watsonRonald.jpg)

http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat (http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat)

custom fit for Frank.   
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on May 16, 2011, 01:21:41 AM
meek article on watson.  have to admit i haven't really paid too much attention to him, but an interesting story.

(http://cjonline.com/sites/default/files/photos/spt051511watsonRonald.jpg)

http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat (http://cjonline.com/sports/2011-05-14/family-values-color-new-cat)

It is comforting to know that he was still new to the game in that shitty YouTube video posted earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 17, 2011, 05:56:42 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Scholarship numbers be damned, #KState is expressing interest in yet another transfer. This time, from Louisville. http://kan.st/aZ
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on May 17, 2011, 06:02:24 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Scholarship numbers be damned, #KState is expressing interest in yet another transfer. This time, from Louisville. http://kan.st/aZ

jfc, frank, you heartless sob. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on May 17, 2011, 06:06:25 PM
:users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sonofdaxjones on May 17, 2011, 06:15:15 PM
A career high of 8 points with Louisville and 1 year of eligibility left.  Awww-right . . .  :pbj:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 17, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
A career high of 8 points with Louisville and 1 year of eligibility left.  Awww-right . . .  :pbj:

A Frank wet dream.  He essentially runs himself off...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on May 17, 2011, 06:29:42 PM
we didn't need rodney anyway.  best of luck at Maryland, Rod.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on May 17, 2011, 06:50:00 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Scholarship numbers be damned, #KState is expressing interest in yet another transfer. This time, from Louisville. http://kan.st/aZ

name?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on May 17, 2011, 07:22:50 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Scholarship numbers be damned, #KState is expressing interest in yet another transfer. This time, from Louisville. http://kan.st/aZ

name?

Sucky McSuckerson
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on May 17, 2011, 07:53:55 PM
goode is a kc guy. Definitely would be better than Watson.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on May 17, 2011, 07:56:11 PM
If Rod would leave, and we get this guy. I will become a Doc Sadler fan. I can't take this.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 17, 2011, 07:57:34 PM
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/lou/sports/m-baskbl/auto_headshot/5751369.jpeg)

GOODE ENOUGH
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 17, 2011, 08:46:25 PM
If Rod would leave, and we get this guy. I will become a Doc Sadler fan. I can't take this.

change mcgruder to samuels, but yeah, this would be the straw that does it.  what a joke.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: AbeFroman on May 17, 2011, 09:05:14 PM
Great, another Jermaine Maybank.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on May 17, 2011, 09:15:40 PM
If Rod would leave, and we get this guy. I will become a Doc Sadler fan. I can't take this.

change mcgruder to samuels, but yeah, this would be the straw that does it.  what a joke.

PAY FRANK!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 17, 2011, 09:16:46 PM
If Rod would leave, and we get this guy. I will become a Doc Sadler fan. I can't take this.

change mcgruder to samuels, but yeah, this would be the straw that does it.  what a joke.
his latest tweet
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: yoga-like_abana on May 17, 2011, 09:17:28 PM
Great, another Jermaine Maybank.
MURDA!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ChiComCat on May 17, 2011, 09:18:56 PM
Great, another Jermaine Maybank.
MURDA!

As far as I'm concerned, that KU game paid for his scholarship.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 18, 2011, 08:09:31 AM
I work with Goode's mother.

 :users:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kitten_mittons on May 18, 2011, 08:13:10 AM
Also

http://rivals.yahoo.com/basketballrecruiting/basketball/recruiting/player-George-Goode-38970
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: The1BigWillie on May 18, 2011, 09:33:23 AM
I have no idea why we would bring him in.  Makes zero sense.  I'm guessing we are not and someone is just Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) and speculating wildly because they are shitty at their job. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on May 18, 2011, 10:03:04 AM
Great, another Jermaine Maybank.
MURDA!

As far as I'm concerned, that KU game paid for his scholarship.

The one we lost brutally? 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 18, 2011, 11:33:23 AM
(http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/lou/sports/m-baskbl/auto_headshot/5751369.jpeg)

GOODE ENOUGH

Deja vu all over again

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=6.595
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on May 24, 2011, 04:04:47 PM
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27".  If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting

I read that at the Derby Classic Game, Ware said he was going to Louisville.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on May 31, 2011, 11:50:10 AM
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27".  If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting

I read that at the Derby Classic Game, Ware said he was going to Louisville.

Good scoop Stevesie

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/30/kevin-ware-signs-with-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Pett on May 31, 2011, 01:04:46 PM
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27".  If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting

I read that at the Derby Classic Game, Ware said he was going to Louisville.

I guess Kevin likes rapists then? :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on May 31, 2011, 01:33:37 PM
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27".  If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting

I read that at the Derby Classic Game, Ware said he was going to Louisville.

I guess Kevin likes rapists then? :dunno:

what the eff are you talking about?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on May 31, 2011, 02:07:02 PM
Latest on Ware, visiting Georgia this weekend, visiting Louisvile "sometime after May 27".  If we're still on this kid's list in June, I'm going to start having Carrick Felix flashbacks.

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2011/05/08/georgia-basketball-star-kevin-ware-says-hes-visiting-uga-this-weekend-then-louisville/?cxntfid=blogs_recruiting

I read that at the Derby Classic Game, Ware said he was going to Louisville.

I guess Kevin likes rapists then? :dunno:

what the eff are you talking about?

Was thinking the same thing myself, settled on him thinking Rick Pitino was a rapist.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on May 31, 2011, 02:11:18 PM
Was thinking the same thing myself, settled on him thinking Rick Pitino was a rapist.

that's a possibility, but based on his posting history, i think it's more likely he's referring to the forced mating of racehorses.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on June 01, 2011, 12:30:35 PM
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What do you know about James Watson?. What stands out about him?

Well, we're going to have a guard that can dunk a basketball . . . in a game. That's something we haven't had since I've been here. He's long and athletic. He and Jeremy both play with energy and a passion that is typical of Frank Martin-type players. James has a good skill set. He can shoot threes and is explosive.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 01, 2011, 12:44:04 PM
 :dubious:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on June 01, 2011, 12:50:49 PM
:dubious:

yeah, time to retire this emoticon. there will never be a better time for its usage than right there.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on June 01, 2011, 12:52:58 PM
go cats
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 01, 2011, 01:12:20 PM
seems like he misspoke to me :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 01, 2011, 01:17:04 PM
seems like he misspoke to me :dunno:

yeah, mispoke and then trashed the rest of our forwards for not being able to dunk  :dubious:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 01, 2011, 02:00:22 PM
trashed the rest of our forwards for not being able to dunk  :dubious:

 he agrees with me about judge's athleticism.  :love:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 01, 2011, 02:14:59 PM
If he meant forward, it's a dumb statement.

If he meant guard, it's a dumb statement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVThZ-krYCg

Guard.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on June 01, 2011, 02:21:08 PM
If he meant forward, it's a dumb statement.

If he meant guard, it's a dumb statement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVThZ-krYCg

Guard.

It's extremely dubious either way, no doubt.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 01, 2011, 02:32:58 PM
If he meant forward, it's a dumb statement.

with re. to watson dunking in games a lot, probably.  with re. to kstate's figger era fowards not dunking much, not really.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PoetWarrior on June 01, 2011, 02:44:04 PM
with re. to watson dunking in games a lot, probably.  with re. to kstate's figger era fowards not dunking much, not really.

We've seen our fair share from Jamar, Curtis, Wally, and Jordan. Haven't we?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 01, 2011, 03:36:31 PM
We've seen our fair share from Jamar, Curtis, Wally, and Jordan. Haven't we?

no.  lol @ including judge, btw.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 08, 2011, 09:00:41 PM
does this go here?? i have no clue.

Quote
On Wednesday, Goode told CBSSports.com he was down to Kansas State, Missouri and Morehead State for his next destination.

http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/29900679
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Stevesie60 on June 08, 2011, 09:07:17 PM
does this go here?? i have no clue.

Quote
On Wednesday, Goode told CBSSports.com he was down to Kansas State, Missouri and Morehead State for his next destination.

http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/29900679

Feels good to be mentioned with bluebloods like Morehead State.

God, what do I care? Why are we still talking to this guy?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on June 08, 2011, 09:09:40 PM
Used to know his dad.  Hustler.  Fun guy to talk to.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2011, 07:24:01 AM
does this go here?? i have no clue.

Quote
On Wednesday, Goode told CBSSports.com he was down to Kansas State, Missouri and Morehead State for his next destination.

http://eye-on-college-basketball.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/26283066/29900679

the eff is going on?  :horrorsurprise:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 09, 2011, 08:08:48 AM
the eff is going on?  :horrorsurprise:

i'm pretty sure i've lost interest.  all available information indicates that the returnees are all returning and that the incoming recruits that i give crap about are all coming in.  so i find it hard to care about whatever game the staff is playing with goode.


if i had to guess, i'd guess he's being strung along until they know for sure that jones will graduate & qualify.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on June 09, 2011, 01:09:31 PM
7th in B12

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1229903
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: EMAWzified on June 09, 2011, 02:53:23 PM
 eff it
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on June 09, 2011, 02:58:46 PM
.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2011, 05:29:58 PM
goode announcing in 30 minutes via twitter
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: PowercatPat on June 09, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
7th in B12

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1229903

How did Tech have a better class than us?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on June 09, 2011, 05:55:11 PM
goode announcing in 30 minutes via twitter

Any indication of where?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2011, 05:57:05 PM
goode announcing in 30 minutes via twitter

Any indication of where?

you have 3 minutes.  why not just grab a beer and open it and adjust your balls and you will know.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2011, 06:02:06 PM
it's mizzou  :bracketmouse:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2011, 06:06:20 PM
did mu have a spot to give?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 09, 2011, 06:31:37 PM
7th in B12

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1229903

How did Tech have a better class than us?

billy g.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: catzacker on June 09, 2011, 06:40:54 PM
it's mizzou  :bracketmouse:

Fantastic.  Win/Win for future bbs'ing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on June 09, 2011, 06:42:48 PM
fuckin meh
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on June 09, 2011, 06:44:24 PM
 somebody do one of those funny fake headline things using one of the like ten thousand funny ways you could use his name.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: tdaver on June 09, 2011, 07:15:49 PM
did mu have a spot to give?

kreklow  :dunno:  or was is spot already filled?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 09, 2011, 08:23:55 PM
did mu have a spot to give?

they had 3 or 4 to give.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on June 09, 2011, 08:27:46 PM
it's mizzou  :bracketmouse:

damn you ghost of mike anderson, damn you!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on June 10, 2011, 07:29:12 AM
Goode Thing We Didn't Get Him!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: doom on June 10, 2011, 02:26:36 PM
Goode Riddance!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on June 10, 2011, 02:27:42 PM
Goode Thing We Didn't Get Him!

 :thumbs:

Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on June 10, 2011, 02:28:05 PM
Goode Riddance!

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on June 10, 2011, 02:32:58 PM
WAS IT GOODE FOR YOU?
George has brief one night stand with K-State, leaves in the morning and never calls us again
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on June 10, 2011, 02:39:52 PM
GEORGE, YOU ARE NOT GOODE
Senior averages 2.9ppg and 1.4rpg, takes joke of a career to MU


Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Benja on June 10, 2011, 02:55:13 PM
GOODE OR BAD?
I'm not really sure if I cared about if you would choose us or not, or even if our staff really wanted you or whatever. You also may not even be all that great at basketball.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 10, 2011, 03:07:22 PM
Almost as Goode as Wally
FP, TC, etc
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on June 10, 2011, 04:06:08 PM
APPARENTLY JONES' GRADES WERE GOODE ENOUGH
                           fall back plan for cats not needed
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 10, 2011, 04:59:54 PM

Georgenot Of TheManhattan, Kansas Jungle
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Spaces on June 12, 2011, 02:01:54 PM
Goode Luck -- Except Against KSU!
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ksufan20 on June 13, 2011, 06:29:16 PM
I haven't been keeping up on the 2011 class...but I know the guys we have are Angel Rodriguez, Jeremy Jones, the transfer from WSU, Adrian Diaz, and Thomas Gipson. Any more? What do you guys think of the class in general?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 13, 2011, 06:36:12 PM
Maybe you could just read this thread?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ksufan20 on June 13, 2011, 06:41:07 PM
Thanks for the hint............will do.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: SuperG on June 13, 2011, 07:11:33 PM
I haven't been keeping up on the 2011 class...but I know the guys we have are Angel Rodriguez, Jeremy Jones, the transfer from WSU, Adrian Diaz, and Thomas Gipson. Any more? What do you guys think of the class in general?

It would be great if there were a master list, perhaps in the initial post of these recruiting threads, where the mods could update our commits along with our verbals, mentions, etc... New people to the thread could go there for a quick primer instead of reading 80+ pages... ya know for easy reference.  Sounds like a lot of work but it's really not. It would also give jt' one less opportunity to make an absolute douchey comment all the while thinking he's being amazingly witty.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 13, 2011, 07:23:55 PM
Sounds like you guys would appreciate the recruiting portion of gopowercat.com.  They got that stuff over there and the mods even make posters be nice to each other over there.  Or, you could just not be retards?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on June 13, 2011, 08:09:18 PM
I haven't been keeping up on the 2011 class...but I know the guys we have are Angel Rodriguez, Jeremy Jones, the transfer from WSU, Adrian Diaz, and Thomas Gipson. Any more? What do you guys think of the class in general?

It would be great if there were a master list, perhaps in the initial post of these recruiting threads, where the mods could update our commits along with our verbals, mentions, etc... New people to the thread could go there for a quick primer instead of reading 80+ pages... ya know for easy reference.  Sounds like a lot of work but it's really not. It would also give jt' one less opportunity to make an absolute douchey comment all the while thinking he's being amazingly witty.

you might want to pm the OP in this thread...which in this case would be stevedave.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: cas4ksu on June 14, 2011, 03:43:11 PM
is there a jeremy jones highlight vid anywhere in the world? i've yet to find one.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: jtksu on June 14, 2011, 05:31:43 PM
is there a jeremy jones highlight vid anywhere in the world? i've yet to find one.

I actually got to watch him on tv a couple times, little surprised that any videos would be hard to find.   Weird.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ksufan20 on June 15, 2011, 07:18:38 PM
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
 :kstatriot:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: wetwillie on June 15, 2011, 07:25:22 PM
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
 :kstatriot:


Thanks for the report, Diaz look redic thin or maybe put on a little muscle already?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: ksufan20 on June 15, 2011, 07:42:02 PM
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
 :kstatriot:


Thanks for the report, Diaz look redic thin or maybe put on a little muscle already?

He looked pretty thin but I haven't seen him before in person to compare to. Looked just as bulked up as JHR tho.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: pissclams on June 16, 2011, 12:37:55 PM
hopefully he and doc spads "share a bunk" together
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on June 17, 2011, 09:02:07 AM
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
 :kstatriot:


Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on June 17, 2011, 09:21:03 AM
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
 :kstatriot:


Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.
:bball:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on June 18, 2011, 09:02:24 AM
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
 :kstatriot:


Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.


The three Amigos :alleyoop:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Johnny Wichita on June 18, 2011, 10:43:11 AM
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
 :kstatriot:


Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.


The three Amigos :alleyoop:

 :opcat:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Winters on June 18, 2011, 10:59:20 AM
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
 :kstatriot:


Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.


The three Amigos :alleyoop:

 :opcat:
:opcat: :opcat: :ck:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on June 20, 2011, 06:44:27 PM
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6'/2012/PG/Carmelo Betancourt via San Juan, Puerto Rico has committed to the University of Akron. Betancourt plays on the 19U National team.

a few people advocated recruiting betancourt a while back.  pretty sure he was a 2011 then.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Bill Clarahan on June 20, 2011, 10:46:22 PM
I saw Adrian Diaz at the Union yesterday as well as JHR and Martavious. FWIW
 :kstatriot:


Just saw K-State future; Diaz, Gip, and Rodriguez walking on campus.


The three Amigos :alleyoop:

 :opcat:

Hey, watchit El Guapo :shakesfist:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Johnny Wichita on June 21, 2011, 07:59:24 AM
Hey, watchit El Guapo :shakesfist:

 :lol:  Wow.  Haven't heard that in a while. 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr. tylerhughes on July 10, 2011, 04:27:18 PM
Found out that Eric Wallace just visited us. 

He has a year of eligibility left and was released from DePaul not too long ago.  He is looking to do the masters program thing where you dont have to sit out a year.

He transferred from Ohio State to DePaul in 2008 but missed last year with a fractured leg.

Here is what his twitter said after his visit.

Quote from: Eric Wallace's Twitter
K-State is love. #justsaying

High school rivals page:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ohiostate/basketball/recruiting/player-Eric-Wallace-23388;_ylt=Am8ojSc4SQfYSrZvBLXC5gdptJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ohiostate/basketball/recruiting/player-Eric-Wallace-23388;_ylt=Am8ojSc4SQfYSrZvBLXC5gdptJB4)
Title: Re: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 10, 2011, 04:32:52 PM
Nice scoop th
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 10, 2011, 05:28:51 PM
good, i think, hope it happens, maybe.  i don't even know really.  2012 vs 2013, i mean, both are great.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on July 11, 2011, 03:11:13 PM
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austin_meek Austin Meek
ETA for K-State hoops signee Jeremy Jones is the end of July. He had originally hoped to finish juco classes and be on campus by July 5.

So is Jones not going to qualify?  I assume this means he had to take another course to get it done...
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Trim on July 11, 2011, 05:45:54 PM
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austin_meek Austin Meek
ETA for K-State hoops signee Jeremy Jones is the end of July. He had originally hoped to finish juco classes and be on campus by July 5.

So is Jones not going to qualify?  I assume this means he had to take another course to get it done...

He'll be here, god willing.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: CNS on July 14, 2011, 01:54:30 PM
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robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Juco guard Jeremy Jones, the only member of #KState's 2011 hoops class not already on campus, awaits clearance. tinyurl.com/5sc8tz5

Someone with a sub check this out and summarize.

TIA
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on July 14, 2011, 02:34:41 PM
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robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Juco guard Jeremy Jones, the only member of #KState's 2011 hoops class not already on campus, awaits clearance. tinyurl.com/5sc8tz5

Someone with a sub check this out and summarize.

TIA

Jones says he'll make it with full confidence, DPete style.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 14, 2011, 02:50:56 PM
Quote
robcassidy22 Rob Cassidy
Juco guard Jeremy Jones, the only member of #KState's 2011 hoops class not already on campus, awaits clearance. tinyurl.com/5sc8tz5

Someone with a sub check this out and summarize.

TIA

Quote
I took my last class through email at Adams State," Jones, who signed a letter of intent in April, said. "I'm just waiting on Adams State to send my transcript to (Seward County). Then, my junior college has to send my transcript to K-State. After that, I'll be good.

lol at email class
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: trumanorme on July 14, 2011, 04:43:53 PM
Hate to sound like a tard, but what the hell is a email class?
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: MakeItRain on July 14, 2011, 07:47:14 PM
Hate to sound like a tard, but what the hell is a email class?

Likely got the syllabus and assignments/readings through email and had to return the assignments the same way.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: TaqMan on July 14, 2011, 07:54:20 PM
Hate to sound like a tard, but what the hell is a email class?


That's AN email class. Look into it and please consider enrolling.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 15, 2011, 07:41:29 AM
it's what your grandparents would call an internet class....they may also call it an ebay class.  
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: trumanorme on July 15, 2011, 07:42:09 AM
You're right. But bite me.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on July 28, 2011, 07:12:25 PM
Ballin' is a Habit:

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Iowa signs a 26 year old ex-con from the JuCo ranks
   

I think it is safe to say that we know who the most interesting incoming recruit in the country next season will be.

26 year old Anthony Hubbard, who signed with Iowa on Saturday.

He dropped out of high school in the 10th grade in 2002. One of his brothers was killed that same year. And on December 13th, 2003, was charged with four felonies for breaking into a house and robbing and beating a man in that house. Hubbard turned himself in three days later, eventually getting sentenced to three years and eleven months in prison. He reportedly drove the getaway car.

But that incident, as violent as it seems, was apparently an outlying mistake made by a kid than a precursor to a life of crime.

@CollegiateHoops Iowa transfer Anthony Hubbard will land at Wichita St per reports.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on July 28, 2011, 07:21:59 PM
Iowa transfer Anthony Hubbard will land at Wichita St per reports.

look at wsu, denying recruited walk-ons schollys in favor of last-minute, desperation recruits.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 04, 2011, 05:54:38 PM
goddamn.

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Tragic news. Eric Katenda was blinded in his left eye last month. ND will honor scholarship.

and

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An undisclosed medical condition has led point guard Shane Larkin to decide against joining the DePaul Blue Demons.

The university announced Thursday that Larkin's condition requires him to be closer to his Orlando, Fla., home and thus he will not attend DePaul. Larkin, son of baseball great Barry Larkin, had been the top prospect in coach Oliver Purnell's recruiting class.



hubbard didn't make it to wsu, incidentally.  denied admission.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: sys on August 15, 2011, 12:01:40 PM
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Former Iowa signee Anthony Hubbard has committed to Morgan State as part of their 2011 class.

 :emawkid:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 15, 2011, 01:38:34 PM
Found out that Eric Wallace just visited us. 

He has a year of eligibility left and was released from DePaul not too long ago.  He is looking to do the masters program thing where you dont have to sit out a year.

He transferred from Ohio State to DePaul in 2008 but missed last year with a fractured leg.

Here is what his twitter said after his visit.

Quote from: Eric Wallace's Twitter
K-State is love. #justsaying

High school rivals page:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ohiostate/basketball/recruiting/player-Eric-Wallace-23388;_ylt=Am8ojSc4SQfYSrZvBLXC5gdptJB4 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ohiostate/basketball/recruiting/player-Eric-Wallace-23388;_ylt=Am8ojSc4SQfYSrZvBLXC5gdptJB4)

How did this golden nugget slip through the cracks?

http://www.goseattleu.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=18200&ATCLID=205181070
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on August 26, 2011, 11:53:13 AM
Not that there is any connection, but interesting. Top 100 kid available; dismissed largely because of a tweet.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/basketball/recruiting/player-D.J.-Gardner-96080

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2011-08-26/mississippi-state-dismisses-freshman-DJamer-gardner-after-tweets
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on August 26, 2011, 11:59:18 AM
Stansbury has really been recruiting winners lately.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 26, 2011, 12:37:32 PM
Not that there is any connection, but interesting. Top 100 kid available; dismissed largely because of a tweet.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/basketball/recruiting/player-D.J.-Gardner-96080

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2011-08-26/mississippi-state-dismisses-freshman-DJamer-gardner-after-tweets

i would offer based on his former aau team name alone.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on August 27, 2011, 04:56:25 PM
Damn Calhoun. Kris Dunn? Pfffftt. Give me Drummond. Now.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1256809
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on November 09, 2011, 02:52:35 PM
/sticky
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: WillieWatanabe on December 12, 2011, 11:12:58 AM
A 6'6" guy with a center's game?  No thanks, we showed one of thse types the door.

Are you seriously trying to compare a guy who was 6'4" 195 during his final yr of HS ball to a guy who's already 6'6" 245 BEFORE his Sr yr has even begun? Even though Sutton did primarily play in the post before he went to prep school, I don't think anyone expected him to be a post player in DI ball due to his lack of height and overall body mass. Compounding his physical limitations to becoming a post player was the fact that he was an inconsisten finisher around the rim, particularly in traffic. If Dom had anywhere near the touch or finishing ability of David Hoskins, I firmly beleive he would be staying at KSU.

A far more accurate comparison to Gipson would be Ron Anderson because both are slightly undersized height wise but possess wide frames which would allow each to create space in the lane, and hopefully allow them to be effective in the post on both ends of the floor.  Unlike Sutton, both had/have a realistical projection of being a post players in high major ball, The primary difference between Anderson and Gipson before they reached college is that Anderson was chubby and out shape when he came to KSU in the Fall of 07. He was listed at 6'8" 260 but I don't think he's any taller than 6'7". Gipson right now has a man's body and it looks like he's already been involved in a college weight program the past couple years. For Gipson's sake, I hope he displays more intensity, fire, and is able to establish more of a physical presence than Anderson ever did in his time at KSU.

As Bossi alluded to in his comments, he believes Gipson projects as a "niche player" in the B12, ie a banger/enforcer type who works to create space for himself and his teammates in the lane and who finishes when given the opportunity down low. Just to give you an example of a current B12 player who has found success in a similar role, he reminds  me of Marshall Moses from Oklahoma St, minus Moses's tendency to cheap shot of course, but that's not always a terrible thing, IMO.

great call here by UW. :thumbs: 
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: michigancat on December 12, 2011, 11:24:30 AM
UW is the absolute best.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: steve dave on December 12, 2011, 11:27:51 AM
UW is the absolute best.
:thumbs:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on December 12, 2011, 11:34:43 AM
UW is the absolute best.

Yes.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 12, 2011, 11:55:41 AM
but how do we know he's not tom light?  :dunno:
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 12, 2011, 01:09:51 PM
Sorry to disappoint you Daris, but no Tom Light phog influence here, just a regular full-blooded EMAW like most other folks on here.  :ksu:

I must admit though, that Gip's impact and offensive ability really have been a pleasant surprise, to me at least. I was buying into more of the "niche player" talk, for the early part of his career at least, but his play so far has already surpassed that. I just hope he can maintain his high level of play through conference season and the rest of the year, we are going to need it.

Then beyond that, who knows where he can take his game(20 and 10 his JR yr ?), just hope he keeps working hard to get there.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: kso_FAN on December 12, 2011, 01:17:34 PM
I must admit though, that Gip's impact and offensive ability really have been a pleasant surprise, to me at least. I was buying into more of the "niche player" talk, for the early part of his career at least, but his play so far has already surpassed that. I just hope he can maintain his high level of play through conference season and the rest of the year, we are going to need it.

You aren't the only one. I thought he'd be a solid contributor, but not anything (especially scoring) that he's been so far.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 12, 2011, 01:23:44 PM
Marshall Moses???, Pfffft.

We're talking the next Wayman Tisdale here.

OK, so that's getting carried away, but that's what some folks in Sec 18 have taken to calling him. Goofy and ridiculous, no doubt, but still fun.
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: mcmwcat on December 12, 2011, 01:24:43 PM
(http://www.thefilmyap.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Wayman-Tisdale-Story-inside.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 Recruiting Thread
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 12, 2011, 01:28:20 PM
(http://www.thefilmyap.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Wayman-Tisdale-Story-inside.jpg)

 :lol: :lol: :lol: