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Will Freddie Phelps (famous KS dipsh!t) have to pay $5 million for exercising his "right" to free speech?

Yes, the court will find this vulgar and reinstate the $5MM verdict
2 (18.2%)
Yes, some other reason
0 (0%)
No, free speech must be protected at all costs (libtard talking point on every other issue)
8 (72.7%)
No, some other reason
1 (9.1%)

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Sugar Dick

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Should free speech cost $5MM
« on: October 06, 2010, 09:50:09 AM »


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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2010, 10:15:09 AM »
C.  He should be allowed to do whatever he wants as long as he isn't breaking any laws. 

He's probably loving all the attention he's getting - it would probably be best for everyone to just ignore him.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2010, 10:21:35 AM »
C.  He should be allowed to do whatever he wants as long as he isn't breaking any laws. 

He's probably loving all the attention he's getting - it would probably be best for everyone to just ignore him.

Don't you think it's pretty hard to ignore people screaming "f.ag" at your sons funeral with signs saying he deserved to do.

There is a difference between should do, and can do.  This is abhorrent, but it's impossible to draw a line so I guess we've go to let everything go.


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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2010, 10:24:27 AM »
You can't pick and choose what is freedom of speech.

Yeah, it sucks that they are total assholes, but they have the right to be assholes. 

Like Rusty said, they only do this for attention, so if we all just stop giving a eff what they do then they'll probably get bored and go away.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2010, 10:30:52 AM »
This is abhorrent, but it's impossible to draw a line so I guess we've go to let everything go.

Yep.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2010, 10:42:28 AM »
This is abhorrent, but it's impossible to draw a line so I guess we've go to let everything go.

Yep.

How about no protesting funerals?  Justified with "right to privacy".  Line drawn

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2010, 10:44:38 AM »
This is abhorrent, but it's impossible to draw a line so I guess we've go to let everything go.

Yep.

How about no protesting funerals?  Justified with "right to privacy".  Line drawn

It's hard to say you have a right to privacy while at a public cemetery. If the funeral were to take place on private property, then the Phelps' have no right to protest.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2010, 10:47:25 AM »
This is abhorrent, but it's impossible to draw a line so I guess we've go to let everything go.

Yep.

How about no protesting funerals?  Justified with "right to privacy".  Line drawn

It's hard to say you have a right to privacy while at a public cemetery. If the funeral were to take place on private property, then the Phelps' have no right to protest.


Agreed.   Nobody but the Phelps likes them doing this, but if they are stopped from doing it then it will open up a lot of new problems.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2010, 11:00:03 AM »
This is abhorrent, but it's impossible to draw a line so I guess we've go to let everything go.

Yep.

How about no protesting funerals?  Justified with "right to privacy".  Line drawn

Not really.  What constitutes a protest?  What is the proper distance?  What about at trials for murder?  The squelching of free spech should be fought in every instance to preserve the integrity of the right for all.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2010, 11:11:04 AM »
This is abhorrent, but it's impossible to draw a line so I guess we've go to let everything go.

Yep.

How about no protesting funerals?  Justified with "right to privacy".  Line drawn

Not really.  What constitutes a protest?  What is the proper distance?

local muni ordinance 

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What about at trials for murder?

What about it?

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The squelching of free spech should be fought in every instance to preserve the integrity of the right for all.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2010, 11:23:21 AM »
This is abhorrent, but it's impossible to draw a line so I guess we've go to let everything go.

Yep.

How about no protesting funerals?  Justified with "right to privacy".  Line drawn

Not really.  What constitutes a protest?  What is the proper distance?

local muni ordinance 

Unconstitutional

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What about at trials for murder?

What about it?

Should people be allowed to protest in front of the courthouse?

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The squelching of free spech should be fought in every instance to preserve the integrity of the right for all.

:rolleyes:

Once again, Sugar Dick wants the government to oppress its citizens. They don't have these kinds of problems in Cuba, you know?



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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2010, 11:26:34 AM »
This is abhorrent, but it's impossible to draw a line so I guess we've go to let everything go.

Yep.

How about no protesting funerals?  Justified with "right to privacy".  Line drawn

Not really.  What constitutes a protest?  What is the proper distance?

local muni ordinance 

Unconstitutional

Not if the SCOTUS says it isn't.  Also, allowing local munis to establish permits for protest and where they can be held is not unconst  :facepalm:

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What about at trials for murder?

What about it?

Should people be allowed to protest in front of the courthouse?

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The squelching of free spech should be fought in every instance to preserve the integrity of the right for all.

:rolleyes:

Once again, Sugar Dick wants the government to oppress its citizens. They don't have these kinds of problems in Cuba, you know?

GMAFB, forbidding the protest of funerals is oppression, you're a jackass



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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2010, 12:15:35 PM »
C.  He should be allowed to do whatever he wants as long as he isn't breaking any laws. 

He's probably loving all the attention he's getting - it would probably be best for everyone to just ignore him.

Yep, can't believe someone hasn't taken out the whole family yet, but no way do I wan't our dumbass gov telling people what they can and can't say as long as they aren't breaking laws.  Wish people would just stop paying attention to them. 

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2010, 12:32:18 PM »
One day someone will Tiller this guy and/or his family.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2010, 12:42:05 PM »
One day someone will Tiller this guy and/or his family.
Doubtful.  It's a pretty large family/cult. 
Where did you get that overnight bag?

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2010, 12:57:39 PM »
One day someone will Tiller this guy and/or his family.
Doubtful.  It's a pretty large family/cult. 

Don't know much about them other than they operate a church in Topeka, where does all their money come from? Do they run guns and sell meth or some crap?
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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2010, 01:53:09 PM »
GMAFB, forbidding the protest of funerals is oppression, you're a jackass

You have stated in another thread that you don't mind the government spying on you, and now you're saying that you want to government to set guidelines for how, when, and where to protest. Free societies do not give the government these kinds of powers.

*I understand that protesting funerals is not politically correct, and I hate the Phelps clan as much as the next guy. I just don't want a government as big and powerful as you do.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2010, 04:19:29 PM »
GMAFB, forbidding the protest of funerals is oppression, you're a jackass

You have stated in another thread that you don't mind the government spying on you, and now you're saying that you want to government to set guidelines for how, when, and where to protest. Free societies do not give the government these kinds of powers.

*I understand that protesting funerals is not politically correct, and I hate the Phelps clan as much as the next guy. I just don't want a government as big and powerful as you do.

Should change his name to Socialist Dick   :horrorsurprise:

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2010, 04:50:40 PM »
One day someone will Tiller this guy and/or his family.
Doubtful.  It's a pretty large family/cult. 

Don't know much about them other than they operate a church in Topeka, where does all their money come from? Do they run guns and sell meth or some crap?
They stockpiled $$$ back when they only hated gheys, people like Sugar Dick sent them lots of money.

 When they started protesting military funerals is when that gravy train stopped.
Where did you get that overnight bag?

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2010, 04:51:28 PM »
this thread was such an epic fail for sugar dick.  oh, well.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2010, 07:20:13 PM »
GMAFB, forbidding the protest of funerals is oppression, you're a jackass

You have stated in another thread that you don't mind the government spying on you, and now you're saying that you want to government to set guidelines for how, when, and where to protest. Free societies do not give the government these kinds of powers.

*I understand that protesting funerals is not politically correct, and I hate the Phelps clan as much as the next guy. I just don't want a government as big and powerful as you do.

Should change his name to Socialist Dick   :horrorsurprise:

You know, we haven't done a whole lot of name changes on this board. I know that was mainly an mjrod thing...but.......... :surprised:

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2010, 08:21:37 PM »
Fortunately and Unfortunately this is exactly what the 1st ammd is for. If it were up to me, I would be the one to pull the trigger (as long as I wasn't executed for it) but he has just as much right to do this as the KKK motherfoooockers have to fly the swastika and carry signs that read n-word.

Here is another problem, Phelps and his ilk called the police prior to showing up and told them they were going to be there AND voluntarily protested 1000' away. I too would love a local ordinance and I thought that I heard something about something that prevented them from protesting 2-3 hrs prior to a military funeral and 2-3 hrs after the funeral - but I cannot recall where I heard/read that.

I have been milling over this all day and the only thing I can think of is indecency - as in the content of his signage; it's pretty foooocking profane to include cursing (if you call the word f.ag a curse) and the graphic images of the anti-sodomizing. Additionally, I saw a sign with Matthew Sheppard which read underneath it, "Matt is in hell" - I would have to think there was some kind of copyright issue with getting that photo from the Sheppard family.  :dunno:


I just hate that goddamn prick and all of his cult.
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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2010, 08:45:19 PM »
One day someone will Tiller this guy and/or his family.
Doubtful.  It's a pretty large family/cult. 

Don't know much about them other than they operate a church in Topeka, where does all their money come from? Do they run guns and sell meth or some crap?
They stockpiled $$$ back when they only hated gheys, people like Sugar Dick sent them lots of money.

 When they started protesting military funerals is when that gravy train stopped.

They also have a few attorneys in the family, and are always self-represented in cases such as these. Protesting military funerals was just one big lawsuit troll so they can counter sue for court costs.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2010, 10:48:01 PM »
One day someone will Tiller this guy and/or his family.
Doubtful.  It's a pretty large family/cult. 

Don't know much about them other than they operate a church in Topeka, where does all their money come from? Do they run guns and sell meth or some crap?
They stockpiled $$$ back when they only hated gheys, people like Sugar Dick sent them lots of money.

 When they started protesting military funerals is when that gravy train stopped.

They also have a few attorneys in the family, and are always self-represented in cases such as these. Protesting military funerals was just one big lawsuit troll so they can counter sue for court costs.

They have a lot of attys in the fam.  They try and get punched etc.  You punch them, they will sue.

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Re: Should free speech cost $5MM
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2010, 11:33:08 PM »
Free speech wasn't intended to allow douchebags like the Phelps cult to desecrate the funerals of fallen US soldiers, or anyone for that matter.