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« Reply #100 on: September 26, 2010, 01:58:30 AM »
we're 3-1 without that sack of feces qb

this argument makes no sense.  hes the reason we were so terrible up until the 4th quarter today.  also do we win 3 games with lamur at qb?  hes terrible, our other qb's are terrible.

it seems clear that for the rest of the year we will have to set up the run by proving we can actually throw the football.

i suppose i should have said when we play a team with a decent defense

Your argument makes no sense. In fact, I have no idea what you are trying to argue. Coffman has started 4 games. We are 4-0. We won this game because of Coffman's 4th quarter performance and in spite of DT's fecesty day.

so how are we 3-1 without him?

He was saying we lose today's game. I disagree with him, and think that we lose today's game, the UCLA game, and the Iowa State game without him, though DT actually played well in those games, so it's possible we might have won.

exactly his argument makes no sense.

we won this game because we are a better team than ucf.  it just took carson 3 quarters to pull his head out of his ass.  he, coffman, is the reason DT was shut down by a good rush defense.

I saw nothing in this game to make me think that we are actually a better team than UCF. Believe me, DT would have still been shut down had Coffman been benched. All Carson Coffman did was win the game when it was on the line, something I don't believe any other QB on our roster could do.

im not saying that coffman isnt the best option for qb.  but that doesnt change the fact that our terrible qb play, ie coffman, is the reason DT was shut down.  i agree he finally came through at the end after 3 terrible quarters.  other than stopping the run game UCF was far from impressive in any aspect of the game since it has been clear from day 1 we cant stop the run.

UCF looked better at every position but running back and kicker.

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« Reply #101 on: September 26, 2010, 02:00:06 AM »
we're 3-1 without that sack of feces qb

this argument makes no sense.  hes the reason we were so terrible up until the 4th quarter today.  also do we win 3 games with lamur at qb?  hes terrible, our other qb's are terrible.

it seems clear that for the rest of the year we will have to set up the run by proving we can actually throw the football.

i suppose i should have said when we play a team with a decent defense

Your argument makes no sense. In fact, I have no idea what you are trying to argue. Coffman has started 4 games. We are 4-0. We won this game because of Coffman's 4th quarter performance and in spite of DT's fecesty day.

so how are we 3-1 without him?

He was saying we lose today's game. I disagree with him, and think that we lose today's game, the UCLA game, and the Iowa State game without him, though DT actually played well in those games, so it's possible we might have won.

exactly his argument makes no sense.

we won this game because we are a better team than ucf.  it just took carson 3 quarters to pull his head out of his ass.  he, coffman, is the reason DT was shut down by a good rush defense.

I saw nothing in this game to make me think that we are actually a better team than UCF. Believe me, DT would have still been shut down had Coffman been benched. All Carson Coffman did was win the game when it was on the line, something I don't believe any other QB on our roster could do.

im not saying that coffman isnt the best option for qb.  but that doesnt change the fact that our terrible qb play, ie coffman, is the reason DT was shut down.  i agree he finally came through at the end after 3 terrible quarters.  other than stopping the run game UCF was far from impressive in any aspect of the game since it has been clear from day 1 we cant stop the run.

UCF looked better at every position but running back and kicker.

they looked better at running back than we did...

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Re: **Official Thank You Carsy for Winning Us the Game Thread**
« Reply #102 on: September 26, 2010, 02:00:06 AM »
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Carson Coffman, QB, Kansas State: If you're the difference in a close win, you're going to earn a helmet sticker. Carson Coffman, that means you. The maligned senior quarterback  spearheaded a lengthy 13-play, 67-yard drive capped by his go-ahead, 7-yard rushing touchdown in the final minute of Kansas State's 17-13 win  over Central Florida. Coffman completed a pair of third-down passes, including an 18-yarder on 3rd-and-10 to keep the drive alive. The win means the Wildcats are 4-0 for the first time since 2003.

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« Reply #103 on: September 26, 2010, 02:03:23 AM »
we're 3-1 without that sack of feces qb

this argument makes no sense.  hes the reason we were so terrible up until the 4th quarter today.  also do we win 3 games with lamur at qb?  hes terrible, our other qb's are terrible.

it seems clear that for the rest of the year we will have to set up the run by proving we can actually throw the football.

i suppose i should have said when we play a team with a decent defense

Your argument makes no sense. In fact, I have no idea what you are trying to argue. Coffman has started 4 games. We are 4-0. We won this game because of Coffman's 4th quarter performance and in spite of DT's fecesty day.

so how are we 3-1 without him?

He was saying we lose today's game. I disagree with him, and think that we lose today's game, the UCLA game, and the Iowa State game without him, though DT actually played well in those games, so it's possible we might have won.

exactly his argument makes no sense.

we won this game because we are a better team than ucf.  it just took carson 3 quarters to pull his head out of his ass.  he, coffman, is the reason DT was shut down by a good rush defense.

I saw nothing in this game to make me think that we are actually a better team than UCF. Believe me, DT would have still been shut down had Coffman been benched. All Carson Coffman did was win the game when it was on the line, something I don't believe any other QB on our roster could do.

im not saying that coffman isnt the best option for qb.  but that doesnt change the fact that our terrible qb play, ie coffman, is the reason DT was shut down.  i agree he finally came through at the end after 3 terrible quarters.  other than stopping the run game UCF was far from impressive in any aspect of the game since it has been clear from day 1 we cant stop the run.

UCF looked better at every position but running back and kicker.

they looked better at running back than we did...

True... I should have said UCF is better at every position but running back and kicker. These are the only positions that I would not trade with them going forward.

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« Reply #104 on: September 26, 2010, 02:06:38 AM »
we're 3-1 without that sack of feces qb

this argument makes no sense.  hes the reason we were so terrible up until the 4th quarter today.  also do we win 3 games with lamur at qb?  hes terrible, our other qb's are terrible.

it seems clear that for the rest of the year we will have to set up the run by proving we can actually throw the football.

i suppose i should have said when we play a team with a decent defense

Your argument makes no sense. In fact, I have no idea what you are trying to argue. Coffman has started 4 games. We are 4-0. We won this game because of Coffman's 4th quarter performance and in spite of DT's fecesty day.

so how are we 3-1 without him?

He was saying we lose today's game. I disagree with him, and think that we lose today's game, the UCLA game, and the Iowa State game without him, though DT actually played well in those games, so it's possible we might have won.

exactly his argument makes no sense.

we won this game because we are a better team than ucf.  it just took carson 3 quarters to pull his head out of his ass.  he, coffman, is the reason DT was shut down by a good rush defense.

I saw nothing in this game to make me think that we are actually a better team than UCF. Believe me, DT would have still been shut down had Coffman been benched. All Carson Coffman did was win the game when it was on the line, something I don't believe any other QB on our roster could do.

im not saying that coffman isnt the best option for qb.  but that doesnt change the fact that our terrible qb play, ie coffman, is the reason DT was shut down.  i agree he finally came through at the end after 3 terrible quarters.  other than stopping the run game UCF was far from impressive in any aspect of the game since it has been clear from day 1 we cant stop the run.

UCF looked better at every position but running back and kicker.

they looked better at running back than we did...

True... I should have said UCF is better at every position but running back and kicker. These are the only positions that I would not trade with them going forward.

and yet kstate played their worst game of the year and still somehow won...

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« Reply #105 on: September 26, 2010, 02:16:05 AM »
we're 3-1 without that sack of feces qb

this argument makes no sense.  hes the reason we were so terrible up until the 4th quarter today.  also do we win 3 games with lamur at qb?  hes terrible, our other qb's are terrible.

it seems clear that for the rest of the year we will have to set up the run by proving we can actually throw the football.

i suppose i should have said when we play a team with a decent defense

Your argument makes no sense. In fact, I have no idea what you are trying to argue. Coffman has started 4 games. We are 4-0. We won this game because of Coffman's 4th quarter performance and in spite of DT's fecesty day.

so how are we 3-1 without him?

He was saying we lose today's game. I disagree with him, and think that we lose today's game, the UCLA game, and the Iowa State game without him, though DT actually played well in those games, so it's possible we might have won.

exactly his argument makes no sense.

we won this game because we are a better team than ucf.  it just took carson 3 quarters to pull his head out of his ass.  he, coffman, is the reason DT was shut down by a good rush defense.

I saw nothing in this game to make me think that we are actually a better team than UCF. Believe me, DT would have still been shut down had Coffman been benched. All Carson Coffman did was win the game when it was on the line, something I don't believe any other QB on our roster could do.

im not saying that coffman isnt the best option for qb.  but that doesnt change the fact that our terrible qb play, ie coffman, is the reason DT was shut down.  i agree he finally came through at the end after 3 terrible quarters.  other than stopping the run game UCF was far from impressive in any aspect of the game since it has been clear from day 1 we cant stop the run.

UCF looked better at every position but running back and kicker.

they looked better at running back than we did...

True... I should have said UCF is better at every position but running back and kicker. These are the only positions that I would not trade with them going forward.

and yet kstate played their worst game of the year and still somehow won...

We won because of Carson Coffman's end of game heroics. It didn't hurt that their kicker missed 2 short field goals and that they had a wide receiver pull a hamstring on a sure touchdown.

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« Reply #106 on: September 26, 2010, 02:18:35 AM »
not the best qb by any means but dammit the kid plays with heart and makes plays when we need it. Support cc14

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« Reply #107 on: September 26, 2010, 02:20:45 AM »
we're 3-1 without that sack of feces qb

this argument makes no sense.  hes the reason we were so terrible up until the 4th quarter today.  also do we win 3 games with lamur at qb?  hes terrible, our other qb's are terrible.

it seems clear that for the rest of the year we will have to set up the run by proving we can actually throw the football.

i suppose i should have said when we play a team with a decent defense

Your argument makes no sense. In fact, I have no idea what you are trying to argue. Coffman has started 4 games. We are 4-0. We won this game because of Coffman's 4th quarter performance and in spite of DT's fecesty day.

so how are we 3-1 without him?

He was saying we lose today's game. I disagree with him, and think that we lose today's game, the UCLA game, and the Iowa State game without him, though DT actually played well in those games, so it's possible we might have won.

exactly his argument makes no sense.

we won this game because we are a better team than ucf.  it just took carson 3 quarters to pull his head out of his ass.  he, coffman, is the reason DT was shut down by a good rush defense.

I saw nothing in this game to make me think that we are actually a better team than UCF. Believe me, DT would have still been shut down had Coffman been benched. All Carson Coffman did was win the game when it was on the line, something I don't believe any other QB on our roster could do.

im not saying that coffman isnt the best option for qb.  but that doesnt change the fact that our terrible qb play, ie coffman, is the reason DT was shut down.  i agree he finally came through at the end after 3 terrible quarters.  other than stopping the run game UCF was far from impressive in any aspect of the game since it has been clear from day 1 we cant stop the run.

UCF looked better at every position but running back and kicker.

they looked better at running back than we did...

True... I should have said UCF is better at every position but running back and kicker. These are the only positions that I would not trade with them going forward.

and yet kstate played their worst game of the year and still somehow won...

We won because of Carson Coffman's end of game heroics. It didn't hurt that their kicker missed 2 short field goals and that they had a wide receiver pull a hamstring on a sure touchdown.

again, kstate played the worst they have all year...  that doesnt make ucf better than kstate, it just means kstate played terrible and didnt show up until the 4th quarter...

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« Reply #108 on: September 26, 2010, 02:48:27 AM »
not the best qb by any means but dammit the kid plays with heart and makes plays when we need it. Support cc14

I don't have a problem with this.

It seems, however, that there are probably at least three other players on this team that could play qb with less heart and make plays both when we do and when we don't need it.


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Re: **Official Thank You Carsy for Winning Us the Game Thread**
« Reply #109 on: September 26, 2010, 03:10:56 AM »
Queso once again proves his haters wrong.  It doesn't have to be pretty, it just has to be.

He had a good fourth quarter and hit a few key passes when it counted.  Gotta give him credit for that.

Would have liked to see that kind of production in the first three quarters, but whatever.

Isn't it hilarious how low our standards/expectations are for the QB position?

I'm content if the QB play isn't so bad that I want to jab at my eyes with a fork.

If the fourth quarter wouldn't have happened, I may have done that.  But Carson saved the day.

I know. My Coffman hate was at cat-scratch fever pitch at halftime. But when the guy actually completes 3 passes to wide open receivers, we completely forgive him.

couple of those could have been completed by any kid who has ever been associated with the game of football.   No props for a shitty player doing his job every once in a while.

I'm just happy when he does it. (See prior reference to hilariously low expectations)

Bet you three yards would rather have Garret Gilbert.  I just watched ASU blow it against a top 5 team because Stephen Threet looked good, passed for a million yards, ran well, but threw 63 interceptions.  If today taught us anything it should have been that having a game manager at QB is just fine.  He was nails when he had to be.  The TD run was his 3rd best play of that drive.  The first down pass to Brod was rough ridin' fantastic.  He's pretty damn average and makes plays when needed, he shares the backfield with an all world RB, its fine.

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« Reply #110 on: September 26, 2010, 04:00:13 AM »
Things I would like to see from Carson:  Not closing his eyes and chucking the football 30 yards down field into double/triple coverage.

He has 2 int's in 4 games.  You and your brother in hickdom "TOMMY" need to stop the season long tantrum.  Jordan Webb is the only Big 12 starter with less INTs, but of course Webb has started 1 less game.

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« Reply #111 on: September 26, 2010, 06:42:39 AM »
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Re: CC14
« Reply #112 on: September 26, 2010, 07:09:23 AM »
The bad news is...we are getting to the part of the schedule where we need more than Heart to win games. We're gonna need Earth, Wind, Fire and Water as well.
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« Reply #113 on: September 26, 2010, 07:32:29 AM »
The bad news is...we are getting to the part of the schedule where we need more than Heart to win games. We're gonna need Earth, Wind, Fire&Ice and Water as well.

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« Reply #114 on: September 26, 2010, 08:51:26 AM »
The bad news is...we are getting to the part of the schedule where we need more than Heart to win games. We're gonna need Earth, Wind, Fire and Water as well.
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Re: **Official Thank You Carsy for Winning Us the Game Thread**
« Reply #115 on: September 26, 2010, 09:00:31 AM »
Like I said, our expectations for the QB position are hilariously low. He played so bad for the first 3 quarters, he literally sparked a discussion in the press box over whether he was the worst QB in all of D1 football. Then he hits two wide open receivers and puts together one good drive, and he's one of the best QBs in the conference.  :dunno:
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Re: **Official Thank You Carsy for Winning Us the Game Thread**
« Reply #117 on: September 26, 2010, 10:09:28 AM »
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Re: **Official Thank You Carsy for Winning Us the Game Thread**
« Reply #118 on: September 26, 2010, 10:12:06 AM »
Like I said, our expectations for the QB position are hilariously low. He played so bad for the first 3 quarters, he literally sparked a discussion in the press box over whether he was the worst QB in all of D1 football. Then he hits two wide open receivers and puts together one good drive, and he's one of the best QBs in the conference.  :dunno:

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Re: **Official Thank You Carsy for Winning Us the Game Thread**
« Reply #119 on: September 26, 2010, 10:20:15 AM »
Like I said, our expectations for the QB position are hilariously low. He played so bad for the first 3 quarters, he literally sparked a discussion in the press box over whether he was the worst QB in all of D1 football. Then he hits two wide open receivers and puts together one good drive, and he's one of the best QBs in the conference.  :dunno:

There has been zero people who have said he is the one of the best QBs in the conference.

He DID win us the game though.   :pbj: Carsy  :pbj:

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« Reply #120 on: September 26, 2010, 10:42:23 AM »
If Cpt. Planet can run the option, I'm all for it.
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« Reply #121 on: September 26, 2010, 10:51:13 AM »
not the best qb by any means but dammit the kid plays with heart and makes plays when we need it. Support cc14

I don't have a problem with this.

It seems, however, that there are probably at least three other players on this team that could play qb with less heart and make plays both when we do and when we don't need it.



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Re: **Official Thank You Carsy for Winning Us the Game Thread**
« Reply #122 on: September 26, 2010, 11:18:20 AM »
There has been zero people who have said he is the one of the best QBs in the conference.

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Re: Carson Coffman Master Thread
« Reply #123 on: September 26, 2010, 11:40:32 AM »
Had he not finished with somewhat of a flourish, I was ready to mark Queso Cheese down as the worst QB I have ever seen playing for K-State.  But as has been stated numerous times, it's not his fault.  The blame lies squarely on WRSOAT . . . if it weren't for WRSOAT Carsy wouldn't do anything but carry around a clipboard and write down plays.


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« Reply #124 on: September 26, 2010, 12:07:01 PM »
Had he not finished with somewhat of a flourish, I was ready to mark Queso Cheese down as the worst QB I have ever seen playing for K-State.  But as has been stated numerous times, it's not his fault.  The blame lies squarely on WRSOAT . . . if it weren't for WRSOAT Carsy wouldn't do anything but carry around a clipboard and write down plays.



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