Team CCQ

[jtksu]

The other board believes that Harper is some kind of secret weapon that Bill has decided not to use yet and is saving until we really need him.

Evidently, at some point this season, we will be down a couple TD's or something and Harper will jog out and put forth the performance that the next Disney inspirational FB movie will be based on.

I'm not even talking about super secret formations.  I mean, feces, he can't be any worse than Grant Gregory was last year.  The coaches called the play, Gregory looked back at the sideline for confirmation or audible, and then they snapped the ball.  Coffman has trouble hitting a 6'8" TE, so I'm assuming Harper must be Jamal Lord reincarnated to not see the field as a QB.

Maybe I'm just crazy for thinking that if we plan on running the ball 50 times a game, we may want to do it with a QB that can be a threat in that facet of the game.  Or maybe I'm just continually grasping at straws because I'm tired of watching Coffman under center.  I still just can't fathom how we got to this point even with the extremely limited options on the team.

Dude, save yourself a ton of aggravation and just make peace with the fact that Carson is our best option at QB.  

I think I have, and then I realize that I can't.  I just can't.

The dark side is actually pretty cool man, you'll get used to it.

[Pittcat]

Still on team CCQ. You might as well get behind him folks.

 

[kstatefreak42]

Kline must be a complete idiot

its Klein* idiot

[kso_FAN]

Snyder has proven lots of things during his career. 

One major one is that outside Michael Bishop and maybe Ell Roberson, if you don't have Snyder's trust in understanding the offense, you aren't going to play QB for him, or at least you are going to be on a short leash. 

Michael Bishop isn't suiting up for the Cats this year (and Chris Harper is no Bishop), and clearly Coffman has taken a firm hold of Snyder's trust.

[Panjandrum]

Snyder has proven lots of things during his career. 

One major one is that outside Michael Bishop and maybe Ell Roberson, if you don't have Snyder's trust in understanding the offense, you aren't going to play QB for him, or at least you are going to be on a short leash. 

Michael Bishop isn't suiting up for the Cats this year (and Chris Harper is no Bishop), and clearly Coffman has taken a firm hold of Snyder's trust.

I get that.  I just don't understand it.  That's all.

I'm still grasping for straws.  I'll be in denial until January.

[yoga-like_abana]

Oh My  amazing

[kso_FAN]

Snyder has proven lots of things during his career. 

One major one is that outside Michael Bishop and maybe Ell Roberson, if you don't have Snyder's trust in understanding the offense, you aren't going to play QB for him, or at least you are going to be on a short leash. 

Michael Bishop isn't suiting up for the Cats this year (and Chris Harper is no Bishop), and clearly Coffman has taken a firm hold of Snyder's trust.

I get that.  I just don't understand it.  That's all.

I'm still grasping for straws.  I'll be in denial until January.

My guess is that Coffman will actually grade out pretty well overall today given what Snyder is asking him to do.

Its just that his biggest mistakes were very big; a) the pick 6 b) missing McDonald for a likely TD and c) missing Smith on the sideline for a big gain (though of the 3, that was the toughest throw between the squat corner and safety in cover 2).

[nicname]

Snyder has proven lots of things during his career. 

One major one is that outside Michael Bishop and maybe Ell Roberson, if you don't have Snyder's trust in understanding the offense, you aren't going to play QB for him, or at least you are going to be on a short leash. 

Michael Bishop isn't suiting up for the Cats this year (and Chris Harper is no Bishop), and clearly Coffman has taken a firm hold of Snyder's trust.

I get that.  I just don't understand it.  That's all.

I'm still grasping for straws.  I'll be in denial until January.

My guess is that Coffman will actually grade out pretty well overall today given what Snyder is asking him to do.

Its just that his biggest mistakes were very big; a) the pick 6 b) missing McDonald for a likely TD and c) missing Smith on the sideline for a big gain (though of the 3, that was the toughest throw between the squat corner and safety in cover 2).

He also made a pretty good throw that could have been a TD if, I believe Thompson or Aubrey would have been able to make the catch.  It was on a play in the redzone where he scrambled to his left and then made the throw.

His miscues this year have been really blatant the two stop and go misses, the pick 6, the missing of the TE today.  But he has done a decent job of what he has been asked to do.  I just wish he could do more.

I'm pretty surprised that he has had any success at all running the option.

[jtksu]

Yeah, he's not all that bad on the option.  Doesn't always great decisions but usually decent.

[swish1]

Snyder has proven lots of things during his career. 

One major one is that outside Michael Bishop and maybe Ell Roberson, if you don't have Snyder's trust in understanding the offense, you aren't going to play QB for him, or at least you are going to be on a short leash. 

Michael Bishop isn't suiting up for the Cats this year (and Chris Harper is no Bishop), and clearly Coffman has taken a firm hold of Snyder's trust.

I get that.  I just don't understand it.  That's all.

I'm still grasping for straws.  I'll be in denial until January.

My guess is that Coffman will actually grade out pretty well overall today given what Snyder is asking him to do.

Its just that his biggest mistakes were very big; a) the pick 6 b) missing McDonald for a likely TD and c) missing Smith on the sideline for a big gain (though of the 3, that was the toughest throw between the squat corner and safety in cover 2).

He also made a pretty good throw that could have been a TD if, I believe Thompson or Aubrey would have been able to make the catch.  It was on a play in the redzone where he scrambled to his left and then made the throw.

His miscues this year have been really blatant the two stop and go misses, the pick 6, the missing of the TE today.  But he has done a decent job of what he has been asked to do.  I just wish he could do more.

I'm pretty surprised that he has had any success at all running the option.

the teams he has had success against with the option are probably more surprised than you are...

[jtksu]

Acting like Carson is the only QB in the nation that misses throws is pretty myopic.  I've seen a bunch of badly throw balls today by a variety of QBs.  Last year, Carson missed every damn throw, this year he misses 3 or 4 a game.  That's really not bad for a college QB.

[Panjandrum]

Oh My  amazing

I'd be remiss if I didn't comment as to how fantastic this is.

Well done, Pete.

[nicname]

Acting like Carson is the only QB in the nation that misses throws is pretty myopic.  I've seen a bunch of badly throw balls today by a variety of QBs.  Last year, Carson missed every damn throw, this year he misses 3 or 4 a game.  That's really not bad for a college QB.

Point is that he has to make a higher percentage of those plays for KSU to be successful.  he had 5 memorable pass plays today.  The miss on the stop and go, the overthrow to the TE, the Pick 6, the nice lob to either AQ or TT, and the nice pass over the middle to pick up the first down early in the game.  He was successful on 2 of those plays, that isn't enough and the pick 6 is something he absolutely cannot let happen. 

100 yards passing isn't enough and if he had connected on two more of those 5 plays he probably would have had around 50-75 more yards and at least 1 TD.

8-12 for 165 and a TD with no INT's is managing the game and will allow KSU to win games against the big12 also rans more easily, and it will allow KSU to at least have a chance against some of the better teams.  That really isn't asking too much, and I'm not saying he can't get it done, but in that aspect he didn't today.  The result, a really close win over a really crappy team.

CC throws like he did today and KSU goes against KU,CU,BU,ATM, UCF, UNT 2-4 or maybe 3-3.  If he can go have a line similar to what I posted above we have a good chance to win all those games, and maybe pull off an upset somewhere else.

[jtksu]

Acting like Carson is the only QB in the nation that misses throws is pretty myopic.  I've seen a bunch of badly throw balls today by a variety of QBs.  Last year, Carson missed every damn throw, this year he misses 3 or 4 a game.  That's really not bad for a college QB.

Point is that he has to make a higher percentage of those plays for KSU to be successful.  he had 5 memorable pass plays today.  The miss on the stop and go, the overthrow to the TE, the Pick 6, the nice lob to either AQ or TT, and the nice pass over the middle to pick up the first down early in the game.  He was successful on 2 of those plays, that isn't enough and the pick 6 is something he absolutely cannot let happen. 

100 yards passing isn't enough and if he had connected on two more of those 5 plays he probably would have had around 50-75 more yards and at least 1 TD.

8-12 for 165 and a TD with no INT's is managing the game and will allow KSU to win games against the big12 also rans more easily, and it will allow KSU to at least have a chance against some of the better teams.  That really isn't asking too much, and I'm not saying he can't get it done, but in that aspect he didn't today.  The result, a really close win over a really crappy team.

CC throws like he did today and KSU goes against KU,CU,BU,ATM, UCF, UNT 2-4 or maybe 3-3.  If he can go have a line similar to what I posted above we have a good chance to win all those games, and maybe pull off an upset somewhere else.

If you're going to attempt to discuss football, you'll probably not want to open by admitting you can only remember 5 plays from an entire game.  And I will bet you my very warmed up tractor that we don't lose to A&M, no matter was Carson does.  KU, CU, UNT all suck badly.  UCF is also not good.  BU and OSU will be tough but I think we can win one of those two games.  UT, UNL,  and TTU are going to whoops our asses.  If we go 8-4, I would say Carson is doing an okay job for us.

[yoman]

Acting like Carson is the only QB in the nation that misses throws is pretty myopic.  I've seen a bunch of badly throw balls today by a variety of QBs.  Last year, Carson missed every damn throw, this year he misses 3 or 4 a game.  That's really not bad for a college QB.

Point is that he has to make a higher percentage of those plays for KSU to be successful.  he had 5 memorable pass plays today.  The miss on the stop and go, the overthrow to the TE, the Pick 6, the nice lob to either AQ or TT, and the nice pass over the middle to pick up the first down early in the game.  He was successful on 2 of those plays, that isn't enough and the pick 6 is something he absolutely cannot let happen. 

100 yards passing isn't enough and if he had connected on two more of those 5 plays he probably would have had around 50-75 more yards and at least 1 TD.

8-12 for 165 and a TD with no INT's is managing the game and will allow KSU to win games against the big12 also rans more easily, and it will allow KSU to at least have a chance against some of the better teams.  That really isn't asking too much, and I'm not saying he can't get it done, but in that aspect he didn't today.  The result, a really close win over a really crappy team.

CC throws like he did today and KSU goes against KU,CU,BU,ATM, UCF, UNT 2-4 or maybe 3-3.  If he can go have a line similar to what I posted above we have a good chance to win all those games, and maybe pull off an upset somewhere else.

If you're going to attempt to discuss football, you'll probably not want to open by admitting you can only remember 5 plays from an entire game.  And I will bet you my very warmed up tractor that we don't lose to A&M, no matter was Carson does.  KU, CU, UNT all suck badly.  UCF is also not good.  BU and OSU will be tough but I think we can win one of those two games.  UT, UNL,  and TTU are going to whoops our asses.  If we go 8-4, I would say Carson is doing an okay job for us.

when the hell did these guys appear on our schedule?

[nicname]

I'm saying that they were the 5 key pass plays of the game, and you are right I forgot another big play the long completion to Broderick Smith.  I think Smith bailed him out on that play.

I'm talking about key plays not 5 yard outs and not talking running plays.

[kstatefreak42]

Hey Angelo!!!!!

[nicname]

My bad on ATM.  I don't know why I included them. 

[jtksu]

Acting like Carson is the only QB in the nation that misses throws is pretty myopic.  I've seen a bunch of badly throw balls today by a variety of QBs.  Last year, Carson missed every damn throw, this year he misses 3 or 4 a game.  That's really not bad for a college QB.

Point is that he has to make a higher percentage of those plays for KSU to be successful.  he had 5 memorable pass plays today.  The miss on the stop and go, the overthrow to the TE, the Pick 6, the nice lob to either AQ or TT, and the nice pass over the middle to pick up the first down early in the game.  He was successful on 2 of those plays, that isn't enough and the pick 6 is something he absolutely cannot let happen. 

100 yards passing isn't enough and if he had connected on two more of those 5 plays he probably would have had around 50-75 more yards and at least 1 TD.

8-12 for 165 and a TD with no INT's is managing the game and will allow KSU to win games against the big12 also rans more easily, and it will allow KSU to at least have a chance against some of the better teams.  That really isn't asking too much, and I'm not saying he can't get it done, but in that aspect he didn't today.  The result, a really close win over a really crappy team.

CC throws like he did today and KSU goes against KU,CU,BU,ATM, UCF, UNT 2-4 or maybe 3-3.  If he can go have a line similar to what I posted above we have a good chance to win all those games, and maybe pull off an upset somewhere else.

If you're going to attempt to discuss football, you'll probably not want to open by admitting you can only remember 5 plays from an entire game.  And I will bet you my very warmed up tractor that we don't lose to A&M, no matter was Carson does.  KU, CU, UNT all suck badly.  UCF is also not good.  BU and OSU will be tough but I think we can win one of those two games.  UT, UNL,  and TTU are going to whoops our asses.  If we go 8-4, I would say Carson is doing an okay job for us.

when the hell did these guys appear on our schedule?

Good point, I actually initially left UNL of the schedule as well.  Hell, we may be able to beat OSU.  Least, there's a better chance of us beating them than TTU.

[kitten_mittons]

8-12 for 165 and a TD with no INT's is managing the game and will allow KSU to win games against the big12 also rans more easily, and it will allow KSU to at least have a chance against some of the better teams.

Yeah, 20 yards per completion would be pretty good.

[nicname]

8-12 for 165 and a TD with no INT's is managing the game and will allow KSU to win games against the big12 also rans more easily, and it will allow KSU to at least have a chance against some of the better teams.

Yeah, 20 yards per completion would be pretty good.

yeah that would be unsustainable but it would have been a realistic line for today if cc had made a couple more good throws

[kstatefreak42]

Hey Carson, thanks for "managing" the game. But you still suck.

[DQ12]

Hey Carson, thanks for "managing" the game. But you still suck.

Nobody is arguing that CCQ doesn't suck.  Every week everyone talks about how our qb situation is awful like it's some sort of new revelation, but guess what, we haven't had a competent quarterback since Freemaw.  Thing is, all Snyder, and Coffman, can do is limit CCQ's opportunities to display how bad he sucks.  So, we can either continue to be shocked about our sub-par qb play on a week in or week out basis, or pop our collars about being 3-0.

Consider this guy's collar popped.

 

[Kat Kid]

Feels good.  Lazer is looking good, Thom the Train looks good.  Too bad Hrebeck looks like crap.

9 more tackles tonight for the Ginger Assassin.  He now leads the team with 29, 9 more than the next guy.  He's so bad!!!  lol!!!  rofl!!!  lmao!!!

He is undersized.  He gets no tfl.  He gives up 2 yards after contact.  He does not stay home.  He does not get off blocks.  He rushes the A/B gap and gets immediately stood up.

So yeah, in a 4-3 as a linebacker he will probably get the most tackles, but that means next to nothing.  He is crap and he is one of the main reasons why this team will be a disappointment to those who want to give Thomas what he deserves for giving up his health for EMAW.

Harold and Brown have actually delivered and the thanks they get is our freaking lb corpse.

[Pittcat]

Feels good.  Lazer is looking good, Thom the Train looks good.  Too bad Hrebeck looks like crap.

9 more tackles tonight for the Ginger Assassin.  He now leads the team with 29, 9 more than the next guy.  He's so bad!!!  lol!!!  rofl!!!  lmao!!!

He is undersized.  He gets no tfl.  He gives up 2 yards after contact.  He does not stay home.  He does not get off blocks.  He rushes the A/B gap and gets immediately stood up.

So yeah, in a 4-3 as a linebacker he will probably get the most tackles, but that means next to nothing.  He is crap and he is one of the main reasons why this team will be a disappointment to those who want to give Thomas what he deserves for giving up his health for EMAW.

Harold and Brown have actually delivered and the thanks they get is our freaking lb corpse.

I see what you did there.