Future schedule update...

[cfbandyman]

11 team round robin, 1 P5 non-conference game

Fixed that for you.

Just have 3, 4 team pods.
[...]
The Mountain-River-Swamp
UCF
WV
Cincy
BYU

There is no god damned way they're putting BYU in a pod or division with the easternmost teams available.  This is essentially why pods are a non-starter: you'd have to anchor each with a remote team, and you end up sacrificing a regional rivalry in the process.

What I expect they'll wind up doing is crafting a list for each team of perhaps 5 opponents that they will play every year, and rotating the other four games among the remaining six opponents.  This gives the ability to optimize for travel distance and preserve rivalries.

kono

JFC man it was an example, and I don't think pods are non starters but the way.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Pods would set us up pretty nicely, since we would end up with KU and ISU. Thinking long term, those are more likely to be free wins in any given season than any other combination of teams would be.

[pissclams]

the word “pod” is gross
pet peeves thread?

[konofo]

Pods would set us up pretty nicely, since we would end up with KU and ISU. [...]

Yeah, you don't know that.  For example, let's assume pods of four, and let's build a pod that has the eastern teams [WVU, UC, UCF].  Who's their fourth?  Quite possibly ISU.  Who's in BYU's pod?  Probably not the Texas schools.  Suddenly our pod is BYU, KU, OSU - potentially the toughest on an annual basis (for KU, anyway).

In my scenario, each team has a list of five annual "division" opponents, but the teams on that list don't all share the same list.  For example, our list might have ISU and OSU, but those two might only play each other 2 out of 3 years.  It allows for our traditional rivalries without consigning the geographically remote teams to a pod of leftovers.

kono

[WillieWatanabe]

do our brothers in lawrence make a bowl game this year?  i'm not so sure 

Tough noncon, and early conference schedule, but they'll finish 7-5, 8-4

Did you guys see Iowa State's schedule after their bye? Sheesh.
@ Baylor
vs. KU
@BYU
vs. UT
@K-State
My god. That has to be the toughest 5 game stretch in the conference. They're not going to a bowl, again.

KU returns alot. I think your guesses are correct.

[DaBigTrain]

I was looking at the schedule and there are a couple back to back home game weekends, I'm thinking about probably coming back and staying like a week so I can go to back to back weekend games.

[konofo]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37820756/why-big-ten-ditched-divisions-protected-11-games

I think the big 10 got it right for the most part (No protected games for PSU is a little odd, though).  They went through a bunch of scenarios with a pair of remote schools in the fold, and decided that divisions suck, and pods suck.

It was also wise not to try to assign the same number of protected matchups for every school - who would USC or UCLA care about beyond their game with each other?

If we were to steal this scheme verbatim, what are the 11 matchups in the post-traitor XII that you would like to see protected?  I'm not sure there are 11.

Sunflower
Farmageddon
KSU/OSU
UC/WVU
UC/UCF
BU/BYU
Various combinations of Texas schools, I guess?  TCU/BU, but then what?

kono

[MakeItRain]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37820756/why-big-ten-ditched-divisions-protected-11-games

I think the big 10 got it right for the most part (No protected games for PSU is a little odd, though).  They went through a bunch of scenarios with a pair of remote schools in the fold, and decided that divisions suck, and pods suck.

It was also wise not to try to assign the same number of protected matchups for every school - who would USC or UCLA care about beyond their game with each other?

If we were to steal this scheme verbatim, what are the 11 matchups in the post-traitor XII that you would like to see protected?  I'm not sure there are 11.

Sunflower
Farmageddon
KSU/OSU
UC/WVU
UC/UCF
BU/BYU
Various combinations of Texas schools, I guess?  TCU/BU, but then what?

kono

Expand to 16 schools, especially adding the mountain 4 schools, you'd get to 11 easily. Also those various iterations of Texas rivalries are significantly older than most of the Big 12 ones you have listed. The Southwest Conference was formed 100 years ago and many of those schools have been playing for longer than that.

[MadCat]

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2023/09/08/k-state-arizona-to-keep-nonconference-home-and-home-series-in-2024-25/

It seems our home-and-home series with Arizona will remain non-conference games

[cfbandyman]

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2023/09/08/k-state-arizona-to-keep-nonconference-home-and-home-series-in-2024-25/

It seems our home-and-home series with Arizona will remain non-conference games

wut, ok...

[cfbandyman]

Guess that's fair for last minute stuff, going to be weird, but no weirder than Zona being in the Big 12

[Stevesie60]

So it won't count towards conference win totals when trying to determine who should go to Arlington?

[MakeItRain]

So it won't count towards conference win totals win trying to determine who should go to Arlington?

Correct

[Spracne]

So it won't count towards conference win totals win trying to determine who should go to Arlington?

Correct

SIAP, but has a scheduling matrix been announce for the newly constructed Big12 next year? I'm trying to figure out why this would be the case. Surely both teams could find a cupcake to beat up on a year out. Or is it simply a contract matter?

[WillieWatanabe]

Guessing we don't want to pony up to play a random, most likely really shitty cupcake this late.

[pissclams]

Guessing we don't want to pony up to play a random, most likely really shitty cupcake this late.

arizona is a shitty enough cupcake iyam

[Pete]

Guessing we don't want to pony up to play a random, most likely really shitty cupcake this late.

arizona is a shitty enough cupcake iyam

Agree

[cfbandyman]

When we win 10* conference games in a season we can declare ourselves the first to so

*Not official yet I mean come on

[cfbandyman]

Game vs UCF @ 7PM on FS1.

[DaBigTrain]

 

[wiley]

Game vs UCF @ 7PM on FS1.

Sounds like Plumlee won’t be playing either.

[cfbandyman]

Game vs UCF @ 7PM on FS1.

Sounds like Plumlee won’t be playing either.

Yeah saw that, sucks, but 4 weeks minimum out doesn't sound fun

[Skipper44]

Guessing we don't want to pony up to play a random, most likely really shitty cupcake this late.

arizona is a shitty enough cupcake iyam

Agree

disagree, guaranteeing a noncon loss for a conference member in the first 2 years of Nu Big 12 is suboptimal

[MakeItRain]

So it won't count towards conference win totals win trying to determine who should go to Arlington?

Correct

SIAP, but has a scheduling matrix been announce for the newly constructed Big12 next year? I'm trying to figure out why this would be the case. Surely both teams could find a cupcake to beat up on a year out. Or is it simply a contract matter?

It's not just finding one opponent for one year, it's finding an opponent, with that open date, who you're also willing to do a home and home series with. They also already have a FCS school on the schedule, I can't imagine there are too many FBS and P4 teams with a week two opening.

Also those power 4 home games drive much more revenue than the buy games. K-State doesn't want to give up a game that's going to sell out with a $50-$75 price point for one with a game half that price point in addition to shelling out another 6 figures to the FCS or G6 school to come in.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Guessing we don't want to pony up to play a random, most likely really shitty cupcake this late.

arizona is a shitty enough cupcake iyam

Agree

disagree, guaranteeing a noncon loss for a conference member in the first 2 years of Nu Big 12 is suboptimal

If we didn't beat them, they would just lose to someone else.