Oh and jt and Daris, what did I say earlier in this thread?? If Carsy can get into the same room with Brian Kav's aka double biscuits and gravy's 1996 numbers; me, you, and most of the Carsy detractors will take it all day and twice on Sunday . . . and . . . I'll even toss in the caveat that Kav's didn't have near the run blocking offensive line nor no one even remotely close to Daniel Thomas lining up in the backfield with him, so he had to throw the ball more. So like I said, if Carsy even sniffs 1800 yards passing and a 139 season long QB efficiency, and 20 TD passes with only 8 ints . . . we'll all be happy.