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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #575 on: February 01, 2013, 12:59:04 PM »
i would think that BBQ is hard to do in MHK.  BBQ isn't cook to order.  when you cook it, you generally have to cook a lot of it.  i would assume that outside of gamedays, there's a lot of waste which means your margins have to be big and your prices higher than you want, or you're selling inferior food that has been sitting around. not food that will make you sick, just food that is overcooked because it's been waiting to sell.

the reason famous daves does well is because they cook their food in a factory and ship it to their stores packaged to handle the transit time and then reheat it at the restaurant.

The best way I've seen it ran in smallish towns is "we make x amount and when we run out, we run out."  People will accept that if the food is good.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #576 on: February 01, 2013, 01:05:33 PM »
Cox sucks because their sauce sucks.   It's easy to make plain tasty meat, the sauce is what defines a place.

did you try the other 3 sauces?
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #577 on: February 01, 2013, 01:07:28 PM »
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They're actually already well over 1000 employees. With the growth generated from this expansion, the conservative estimate is 725 jobs based on 15% growth over the next 4 years. They have since increased their expected growth in that same time frame to 30% annually. Those projections lead to approx 900 or 1000 more jobs instead of the 650-725.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #578 on: February 01, 2013, 01:07:42 PM »
But yes, Famous Dave's is the best BBQ in MHK. Sorry to break it to you, Cox Bros' bros.

rough ridin' wrong, sorry bro.  FD's is third.  Pat's is better than FD's garbage.
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #579 on: February 01, 2013, 01:12:30 PM »
Cox sucks because their sauce sucks.   It's easy to make plain tasty meat, the sauce is what defines a place.

ot here guys but what about a restaurant called "sauces". then you have like 101 different sauces that people can order on their food. medium green wasabi sauce fries with scotch bonnet sauced texas toast and hot peanut sauce pasta. maybe even call your "alcohol" drinks sauces or serve them in containers that are typically reserved for sauces. t-shirts that say something like "sauces, mhk. come and get sauced" and then there is like a tongue hanging out or something.  :dunno:

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« Reply #580 on: February 01, 2013, 01:12:55 PM »
Cox sucks because their sauce sucks.   It's easy to make plain tasty meat, the sauce is what defines a place.

did you try the other 3 sauces?

Yeah, I don't agree with the premise of sauce makes the BBQ at all.

Consistently producing flavorful, moist BBQ is the art of it, unless you are talking pulled pork. IMO pulled pork is the easiest BBQ to produce.

But to make good burnt ends is difficult, and OK Joes does it the best. Then a good brisket (ABs) or sliced pork (Gates). Then sausage (ABs).

Cox Bros isn't as good as any of those, but IMO their brisket and sausage are still very good. I'll eat their pulled pork to, but again, I don't judge any BBQ place by pulled pork.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #581 on: February 01, 2013, 01:25:42 PM »
pulled pork! that's what she said! heeyo! badaboom!  :dance:

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #582 on: February 01, 2013, 01:31:45 PM »
Cox sucks because their sauce sucks.   It's easy to make plain tasty meat, the sauce is what defines a place.

did you try the other 3 sauces?

Yeah, I don't agree with the premise of sauce makes the BBQ at all.

Consistently producing flavorful, moist BBQ is the art of it, unless you are talking pulled pork. IMO pulled pork is the easiest BBQ to produce.

But to make good burnt ends is difficult, and OK Joes does it the best. Then a good brisket (ABs) or sliced pork (Gates). Then sausage (ABs).

Cox Bros isn't as good as any of those, but IMO their brisket and sausage are still very good. I'll eat their pulled pork to, but again, I don't judge any BBQ place by pulled pork.

Totally agree.  Good sauce can cover up mediocre barbecue, but good barbecue stands on it's own.
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« Reply #583 on: February 01, 2013, 01:32:45 PM »
then maybe a punch card with all 101 sauces on it and every time you order something with one of the sauces you can get it punched and then if you get them all punch you get like a hat or something that says something like "i got sauced in mhk".

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #584 on: February 01, 2013, 01:34:22 PM »
maybe a shirt that says" i tried 101 sauces and all i got was this lousy t-shirt" and the shirt looks like it has sauce stains on it but it doesn't really.  :dunno:

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #585 on: February 01, 2013, 01:35:43 PM »
the waitresses (huge jugs btw) could be called the Saucy Posse.


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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #586 on: February 01, 2013, 01:36:30 PM »
Cox sucks because their sauce sucks.   It's easy to make plain tasty meat, the sauce is what defines a place.

did you try the other 3 sauces?

Yeah, I don't agree with the premise of sauce makes the BBQ at all.

Consistently producing flavorful, moist BBQ is the art of it, unless you are talking pulled pork. IMO pulled pork is the easiest BBQ to produce.

But to make good burnt ends is difficult, and OK Joes does it the best. Then a good brisket (ABs) or sliced pork (Gates). Then sausage (ABs).

Cox Bros isn't as good as any of those, but IMO their brisket and sausage are still very good. I'll eat their pulled pork to, but again, I don't judge any BBQ place by pulled pork.

burnt ends aren't very hard imo.  also jack stack's burnt ends  are the best in the city, although they kind of cheat (so does Joes) by just cubing up the brisket flat instead of only using the point which is what you're supposed to do. 


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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #587 on: February 01, 2013, 01:37:01 PM »
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #588 on: February 01, 2013, 01:37:56 PM »
also maybe there is one sauce that is like ridic hot or something. i mean just ridic and the waiters and waitresses each carry it around in a little water gun type device attached to their belt and there is a bell at every table and if someone at the table rings the bell then a fire alarm type sound goes off and a light flashes and the waitstaff person goes over, pulls out the gun and shoots some of the ridic sauce onto their food and says something like "you've been sauced" or "try to put this fire out" or something similar.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #589 on: February 01, 2013, 01:38:29 PM »
the waitresses (huge jugs btw) could be called the Saucy Posse.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #590 on: February 01, 2013, 01:39:19 PM »
the waitresses (huge jugs btw) could be called the Saucy Posse.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #591 on: February 01, 2013, 01:40:50 PM »
there could be a sauce bong in the middle of select tables and a table of bros could pay to load it full of sauce and then share it.  the select sauce bong tables kind of compete to down their bong the quickest.  when it's empty they pay the sauce posse to refill it, and when she does, it's a big deal and everyone at the restaurant watches.


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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #592 on: February 01, 2013, 01:42:46 PM »
you could modify one of those soda machine like the one at goodcents to dispense all 101 different sorts of sauces and you could put a big sign on the machine that says something to the effect of "SAUCEBUSTER."
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #593 on: February 01, 2013, 01:44:28 PM »
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #594 on: February 01, 2013, 01:47:03 PM »
you could open an identical Oklahoma Joe's restaurant in mhk under a different name and KC BBQ snobs would be like "it's okay, but it doesn't compare to OKJ's at all.  speaking of, i could really go for a z-man right about now."

this is just a theory i'm working on, fwiw.
KC BBQ snobs do this with the local chains now with the "i think the old OK Joes/ABs/etc tastes better than new location  X"

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #595 on: February 01, 2013, 01:50:17 PM »
burnt ends aren't very hard imo.  also jack stack's burnt ends  are the best in the city, although they kind of cheat (so does Joes) by just cubing up the brisket flat instead of only using the point which is what you're supposed to do. 

Yeah, Jack Stack's are very good. I guess I've had plenty of burnt ends that aren't very good (like ABs). And if they cheat that way, that would explain a lot. I just know I really like OK Joes BEs a lot.

And I'm on board with this sauce place.

I'm thinking they should have something on the wall like the Flying Saucer that honors customers that eat all the sauces. In fact, just steal the concept, call the place Flying Sauces, and use the sauces on tap idea instead of beers.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #596 on: February 01, 2013, 01:52:59 PM »
Bring in old brewery equipment and put behind a glass wall like Little Apple/any other brewery ever. Pretend you are brewing the sauces in there, even though thats probably not a reasonable way to go about it so you wouldn't actually do it.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #597 on: February 01, 2013, 01:54:12 PM »
you could open an identical Oklahoma Joe's restaurant in mhk under a different name and KC BBQ snobs would be like "it's okay, but it doesn't compare to OKJ's at all.  speaking of, i could really go for a z-man right about now."

this is just a theory i'm working on, fwiw.
KC BBQ snobs do this with the local chains now with the "i think the old OK Joes/ABs/etc tastes better than new location  X"

someone told me that ok joes makes all their meat on the same smoker at the original location and ships it to the new locations every day.  not sure if true.  either way it sure is great living in kc and having better bbq than everyone else in the world, guys.
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #598 on: February 01, 2013, 01:55:11 PM »
you could open an identical Oklahoma Joe's restaurant in mhk under a different name and KC BBQ snobs would be like "it's okay, but it doesn't compare to OKJ's at all.  speaking of, i could really go for a z-man right about now."

this is just a theory i'm working on, fwiw.
KC BBQ snobs do this with the local chains now with the "i think the old OK Joes/ABs/etc tastes better than new location  X"

someone told me that ok joes makes all their meat on the same smoker at the original location and ships it to the new locations every day.  not sure if true.  either way it sure is great living in kc and having better bbq than everyone else in the world, guys.
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #599 on: February 01, 2013, 01:55:36 PM »
you could open an identical Oklahoma Joe's restaurant in mhk under a different name and KC BBQ snobs would be like "it's okay, but it doesn't compare to OKJ's at all.  speaking of, i could really go for a z-man right about now."

this is just a theory i'm working on, fwiw.
KC BBQ snobs do this with the local chains now with the "i think the old OK Joes/ABs/etc tastes better than new location  X"

someone told me that ok joes makes all their meat on the same smoker at the original location and ships it to the new locations every day.  not sure if true.  either way it sure is great living in kc and having better bbq than everyone else in the world, guys.
not true.  they have smokers cooking outside in the back of their leawood location.


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