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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #550 on: February 01, 2013, 09:22:13 AM »
i would think that BBQ is hard to do in MHK.  BBQ isn't cook to order.  when you cook it, you generally have to cook a lot of it.  i would assume that outside of gamedays, there's a lot of waste which means your margins have to be big and your prices higher than you want, or you're selling inferior food that has been sitting around. not food that will make you sick, just food that is overcooked because it's been waiting to sell.

the reason famous daves does well is because they cook their food in a factory and ship it to their stores packaged to handle the transit time and then reheat it at the restaurant.


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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #551 on: February 01, 2013, 09:24:26 AM »
I've never been to any bbq place that really knocked my socks off. Most of them are dirty, offer poor service, and offer low quality food that is smoked and covered with bbq sauce to taste ok. It's good for the price, I guess.

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« Reply #552 on: February 01, 2013, 09:27:01 AM »
I've never been to any bbq place that really knocked my socks off. Most of them are dirty, offer poor service, and offer low quality food that is smoked and covered with bbq sauce to taste ok. It's good for the price, I guess.

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« Reply #553 on: February 01, 2013, 09:27:36 AM »
Are they gonna have a Cox at NBAF?

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #554 on: February 01, 2013, 09:50:23 AM »
I've never been to any bbq place that really knocked my socks off. Most of them are dirty, offer poor service, and offer low quality food that is smoked and covered with bbq sauce to taste ok. It's good for the price, I guess.

go to the jack stack freight house you snob

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #555 on: February 01, 2013, 09:52:32 AM »
I've never been to any bbq place that really knocked my socks off. Most of them are dirty, offer poor service, and offer low quality food that is smoked and covered with bbq sauce to taste ok. It's good for the price, I guess.

go to the jack stack freight house you snob

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #556 on: February 01, 2013, 10:01:16 AM »
i've had lots of knock your socks off bbq, maybe you just don't like bbq?????
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #557 on: February 01, 2013, 10:28:56 AM »
Cox catering is fine, because it's pretty hard to eff up a pulled pork sandwich that you but together yourself.

But they are a decent at best restaurant.
i mean, are they even a restaurant?  it's an order-at-the-counter bbq joint.  it's not supposed to be jack stack.

is it as good as oklahoma joes?  i guess not, but it's a decent, quick, cheap enough, local bbq joint.  and that ain't bad.

Dlew, maybe someone can give us more specific examples of why Cox Bros is so bad?

I think I need help here b/c I really like it. Its not OK Joes, ABs, or Gates, but it tastes good and I enjoy it.

Maybe I just don't taste things very well? :dunno:

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #558 on: February 01, 2013, 10:32:26 AM »
Hey guyz, how about you take your BBQ thread elsewhere and stop cluttering our awesome NBAF thread with nonsense.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #559 on: February 01, 2013, 10:32:52 AM »
Cox catering is fine, because it's pretty hard to eff up a pulled pork sandwich that you but together yourself.

But they are a decent at best restaurant.
i mean, are they even a restaurant?  it's an order-at-the-counter bbq joint.  it's not supposed to be jack stack.

is it as good as oklahoma joes?  i guess not, but it's a decent, quick, cheap enough, local bbq joint.  and that ain't bad.

Dlew, maybe someone can give us more specific examples of why Cox Bros is so bad?

I think I need help here b/c I really like it. Its not OK Joes, ABs, or Gates, but it tastes good and I enjoy it.

Maybe I just don't taste things very well? :dunno:

I think if you can't remember how awesome it was then it wasn't very good.  Like I've been to Cox Bros but I can't really remember anything about it.  Pretty average, I guess.  But I'm spoiled because Okie Joe's is like within potato gun distance of me.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #560 on: February 01, 2013, 10:34:31 AM »
i've had lots of knock your socks off bbq, maybe you just don't like bbq?????

Maybe. I mean I'll eat it. I just don't see what's so great about it.

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #561 on: February 01, 2013, 11:45:53 AM »
Cox catering is fine, because it's pretty hard to eff up a pulled pork sandwich that you but together yourself.

But they are a decent at best restaurant.
i mean, are they even a restaurant?  it's an order-at-the-counter bbq joint.  it's not supposed to be jack stack.

is it as good as oklahoma joes?  i guess not, but it's a decent, quick, cheap enough, local bbq joint.  and that ain't bad.

Dlew, maybe someone can give us more specific examples of why Cox Bros is so bad?

I think I need help here b/c I really like it. Its not OK Joes, ABs, or Gates, but it tastes good and I enjoy it.

Maybe I just don't taste things very well? :dunno:
it's because generally people that live in, or have ever lived in ks, and especially kc, are huge entitled dicks about anything bbq related.  they feel like because they eat a z-man regularly they get to pretty much think any non-kc bbq place is complete crap. 

it's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), really.


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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #562 on: February 01, 2013, 11:46:02 AM »
Cox catering is fine, because it's pretty hard to eff up a pulled pork sandwich that you but together yourself.

But they are a decent at best restaurant.
i mean, are they even a restaurant?  it's an order-at-the-counter bbq joint.  it's not supposed to be jack stack.

is it as good as oklahoma joes?  i guess not, but it's a decent, quick, cheap enough, local bbq joint.  and that ain't bad.

Dlew, maybe someone can give us more specific examples of why Cox Bros is so bad?

I think I need help here b/c I really like it. Its not OK Joes, ABs, or Gates, but it tastes good and I enjoy it.

Maybe I just don't taste things very well? :dunno:

dlew and you are on the same side then _fan. neither of you dislike it. i didn't care for it much but i've only had it once so i should give it another shot sometime. sd says he's had it like ten times and doesn't like it which seems like a lot of times to try something you don't like which makes me think that he actually does like putting cox in his mouth and is just saying he doesn't. heeyo! badumbum! i'll be here all night folks! don't forget to tip bartenders and waitresses!  :dance:

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #563 on: February 01, 2013, 11:49:26 AM »
lol, putting cox in his mouth
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #564 on: February 01, 2013, 11:50:56 AM »
you could open an identical Oklahoma Joe's restaurant in mhk under a different name and KC BBQ snobs would be like "it's okay, but it doesn't compare to OKJ's at all.  speaking of, i could really go for a z-man right about now."

this is just a theory i'm working on, fwiw.
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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #565 on: February 01, 2013, 12:09:15 PM »
DLew you are totally right about the KC BBQ palette being extremely advanced, rendering most other BBQ gross. Being dicks about it doesn't make KC folks wrong about it. Different strokes for different folks. Enjoy your Kraft/KC Masterpiece.

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« Reply #566 on: February 01, 2013, 12:27:13 PM »
DLew you are totally right about the KC BBQ palette being extremely advanced, rendering most other BBQ gross. Being dicks about it doesn't make KC folks wrong about it. Different strokes for different folks. Enjoy your Kraft/KC Masterpiece.

Same thing happens with Texans. Once you've had Lockhart's bbq or city market in luling you tend to mush everything else. County Line? GTFOOMF.

(note: this is not an attempt to start a KC/TX bbq debate. The best of both types are great.)

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Re: How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?
« Reply #567 on: February 01, 2013, 12:29:54 PM »
I like Famous Dave's.  Cornbread. 

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« Reply #568 on: February 01, 2013, 12:32:47 PM »
DLew you are totally right about the KC BBQ palette being extremely advanced, rendering most other BBQ gross. Being dicks about it doesn't make KC folks wrong about it. Different strokes for different folks. Enjoy your Kraft/KC Masterpiece.

Same thing happens with Texans. Once you've had Lockhart's bbq or city market in luling you tend to mush everything else. County Line? GTFOOMF.

(note: this is not an attempt to start a KC/TX bbq debate. The best of both types are great.)

what a hilarious idea for a debate though. ok let's debate what's better, good bbq or texas bbq. my hypothesis is good bbq. ding dong, debate over, class dismissed and see you all on monday.

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« Reply #569 on: February 01, 2013, 12:35:12 PM »
DLew you are totally right about the KC BBQ palette being extremely advanced, rendering most other BBQ gross. Being dicks about it doesn't make KC folks wrong about it. Different strokes for different folks. Enjoy your Kraft/KC Masterpiece.

Same thing happens with Texans. Once you've had Lockhart's bbq or city market in luling you tend to mush everything else. County Line? GTFOOMF.

(note: this is not an attempt to start a KC/TX bbq debate. The best of both types are great.)

what a hilarious idea for a debate though. ok let's debate what's better, good bbq or texas bbq. my hypothesis is good bbq. ding dong, debate over, class dismissed and see you all on monday.

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« Reply #570 on: February 01, 2013, 12:35:53 PM »
i would think that BBQ is hard to do in MHK.  BBQ isn't cook to order.  when you cook it, you generally have to cook a lot of it.  i would assume that outside of gamedays, there's a lot of waste which means your margins have to be big and your prices higher than you want, or you're selling inferior food that has been sitting around. not food that will make you sick, just food that is overcooked because it's been waiting to sell.

the reason famous daves does well is because they cook their food in a factory and ship it to their stores packaged to handle the transit time and then reheat it at the restaurant.

The best way I've seen it ran in smallish towns is "we make x amount and when we run out, we run out."  People will accept that if the food is good.

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« Reply #571 on: February 01, 2013, 12:39:45 PM »
i would think that BBQ is hard to do in MHK.  BBQ isn't cook to order.  when you cook it, you generally have to cook a lot of it.  i would assume that outside of gamedays, there's a lot of waste which means your margins have to be big and your prices higher than you want, or you're selling inferior food that has been sitting around. not food that will make you sick, just food that is overcooked because it's been waiting to sell.

the reason famous daves does well is because they cook their food in a factory and ship it to their stores packaged to handle the transit time and then reheat it at the restaurant.

The best way I've seen it ran in smallish towns is "we make x amount and when we run out, we run out."  People will accept that if the food is good.

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« Reply #572 on: February 01, 2013, 12:40:35 PM »
DLew you are totally right about the KC BBQ palette being extremely advanced, rendering most other BBQ gross. Being dicks about it doesn't make KC folks wrong about it. Different strokes for different folks. Enjoy your Kraft/KC Masterpiece.

Same thing happens with Texans. Once you've had Lockhart's bbq or city market in luling you tend to mush everything else. County Line? GTFOOMF.

(note: this is not an attempt to start a KC/TX bbq debate. The best of both types are great.)

Yeah Texas is obsessed with dry rub and beef-only. But the point is, both are good at what they do and your average person not from a BBQ hotbed has a god-awful BBQ palette. Take the middle of Kansas for example.

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« Reply #573 on: February 01, 2013, 12:54:24 PM »
Cox sucks because their sauce sucks.   It's easy to make plain tasty meat, the sauce is what defines a place.
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« Reply #574 on: February 01, 2013, 12:57:47 PM »
just an FYI  here boys, currently finishing up a hog heaven sandwich and ribs from OK Joes, was good.


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