How much growth will NBAF give Manhattan/KSU?

[Dugout DickStone]

Roberts is an absolute doofus who panders to his even dumber constituency.  It will be fun to watch him lose the next election

[CNS]

Roberts is an absolute doofus who panders to his even dumber constituency.  It will be fun to watch him lose the next election

why would he lose?  He has been there for ages and nothing has changed in our dumbass state.

[Dugout DickStone]

Roberts is an absolute doofus who panders to his even dumber constituency.  It will be fun to watch him lose the next election

why would he lose?  He has been there for ages and nothing has changed in our dumbass state.

This has to be the first time he voted against a half billion project all contained within his state. 

[WillieWatanabe]

Pat Roberts' opposition to the most recent spending bill is outrageous, yet also unsurprising.  rough ridin' politics.  In non-election years, he pimps the crap out of this project despite being a "small government," fiscally responsible republican.  Repeatedly criticizing Obama for cutting funding in past.  And now, in the 2014 election cycle, with the project on the verge of approval, this eff hole votes against the thing to "send a signal."     

“It gives me no pleasure to vote against a bill that includes an important project into which I have put my heart and soul and many hours of work,” Roberts said.

“But that vote was necessary to send a signal we can no longer afford unchecked spending as usual.”

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/01/16/4757274/roberts-joins-huelskamp-pompeo.html


Some nice renderings:
http://www.perkinswill.com/work/national-bio-and-agro-defense-facility.html
http://mcmjv.com/project-information/

 

[CNS]

Roberts is an absolute doofus who panders to his even dumber constituency.  It will be fun to watch him lose the next election

why would he lose?  He has been there for ages and nothing has changed in our dumbass state.

This has to be the first time he voted against a half billion project all contained within his state.

Yeah, but he did so as a political move to show fiscal responsibility knowing it would pass anyway.  His state gets the project and he looks like a financial watchdog to the retards.  Win(state economy)/Win(Roberts election)

[pissclams]

lsoc is right

[Dugout DickStone]

Roberts is an absolute doofus who panders to his even dumber constituency.  It will be fun to watch him lose the next election

why would he lose?  He has been there for ages and nothing has changed in our dumbass state.

This has to be the first time he voted against a half billion project all contained within his state.

Yeah, but he did so as a political move to show fiscal responsibility knowing it would pass anyway.  His state gets the project and he looks like a financial watchdog to the retards.  Win(state economy)/Win(Roberts election)

He could still eff it up.  Anytime a rep can deliver a half billion dollar project to a state like Kansas that has what, 3 electoral votes, everyone should vote yes regardless of the affiliation.  Every other state's elected offcials gets it except this cocksucker

[CNS]

I am not agreeing with him, but I think he wins again.

[The1BigWillie]

So are we going to get this f9cking thing or what?

[ChiComCat]

Roberts prob voted against it because the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thinks he can run for President.

[Pete]

Roberts prob voted against it because the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thinks he can run for President.

This.

[Belvis Noland]

Roberts prob voted against it because the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) thinks he can run for President.

just another power-hungry ass hat who will do whatever the eff he has to do to hold on to power.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Man, lotta hate for Roberts on here. I guess it doesn't bother me because I don't think it's hypocritical to (1) recognize this project is a massive waste of money, but (2) realize there's nothing I can do to stop it so I can at least enjoy the ancillary benefit to Manhattan, KS. Then again, I'm not a senator who actually has power over appropriations.

Btw - this project won't be online until 2022. All they're building right now is the power plant to run the facility, and even the plant won't be done  until 2016, I think.

Also, the dumb "Plum Island" concerns aside, the NBAF's proximity to the university was one of the major selling points of the Manhattan location. They didn't want some remote facility that was difficult for the scientists to get to. The CDC is located in downtown Atlanta right next to Emory U.

[KITNfury]

Man, lotta hate for Roberts on here. I guess it doesn't bother me because I don't think it's hypocritical to (1) recognize this project is a massive waste of money, but (2) realize there's nothing I can do to stop it so I can at least enjoy the ancillary benefit to Manhattan, KS. Then again, I'm not a senator who actually has power over appropriations.

Btw - this project won't be online until 2022. All they're building right now is the power plant to run the facility, and even the plant won't be done  until 2016, I think.

you're a waste of money

[Belvis Noland]

Man, lotta hate for Roberts on here. I guess it doesn't bother me because I don't think it's hypocritical to (1) recognize this project is a massive waste of money, but (2) realize there's nothing I can do to stop it so I can at least enjoy the ancillary benefit to Manhattan, KS.

The project was Pat Roberts' idea in the first place!  Hence, the hypocracy.  And he's championed this "massive waste of money" at every turn of the pass.  Hence, double hyprocacy.     

Found this gem of a press release from 2013. 

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senator Pat Roberts (R-Kan.) along with U.S. Senator Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), a member of the U.S. Senate Appropriations Committee, announced the Fiscal Year 2014 Homeland Security Appropriations Bill was approved with bipartisan support by the Senate Appropriations Committee. The bill includes $404 million for construction of the National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility (NBAF), an amount equal to the U.S. House of Representatives approved appropriations bill and a critical step forward for the lab under construction in Manhattan, Kan.
 
“It’s an objective fact,” Sen. Roberts said. “The nation needs NBAF. Every delay leaves the American people and the American food supply at greater risk. Another important step toward completion was made today as $404 million for construction of the NBAF made it out of committee and is now on its way to the Senate floor. We need to get this done, and I look forward to broad bipartisan support of the NBAF on the Senate floor.”
 
The committee approved bill now awaits passage by the full U.S. Senate.

http://www.moran.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=dbd095bd-ffbd-4799-a507-65703b42074c

[HerrSonntag]

Proposing an expensive undertaking such as this, then voting against its funding, is gross negligence, at the least.

[ChiComCat]

I don't like Roberts as much as the next guy, but he voted against a 1.1 trillion dollar spending bill.  Making it sound like he voted specifically against the NBAF is a stretch.

[bubbles4ksu]

I don't like Roberts as the next guy, but he voted against a 1.1 trillion dollar spending bill.  Making it sound like he voted specifically against the NBAF is a stretch.

and he probably knew without a doubt that the bill would pass.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Well, to be fair, the project has nearly doubled in cost since it was first approved. It has something to do with some dumbass's decision to encase a big portion of the facility in about a foot of concrete. Apparently, it can withstand an EF-5 tornado, polar vortex, and shark-nado all at the same time.

We need to figure out how to somehow get our football renovations worked into this project. :money:

[bubbles4ksu]

Well, to be fair, the project has nearly doubled in cost since it was first approved. It has something to do with some dumbass's decision to encase a big portion of the facility in about a foot of concrete. Apparently, it can withstand an EF-5 tornado, polar vortex, and shark-nado all at the same time.

We need to figure out how to somehow get our football renovations worked into this project. :money:

you need to be happier about the amount of construction planned for manhattan or i'm going to change your name to G-O-P Republicans!

[Headinjun]

Well, to be fair, the project has nearly doubled in cost since it was first approved. It has something to do with some dumbass's decision to encase a big portion of the facility in about a foot of concrete. Apparently, it can withstand an EF-5 tornado, polar vortex, and shark-nado all at the same time.

We need to figure out how to somehow get our football renovations worked into this project. :money:

That's supposed to be dumb??

[Belvis Noland]

I don't like Roberts as much as the next guy, but he voted against a 1.1 trillion dollar spending bill.  Making it sound like he voted specifically against the NBAF is a stretch.

Odd.  In non-election year, Roberts introduced and passed a massive Farm Bill priced at $1 trillion, saying “It shows what can happen if we break the logjam of partisanship and work together to get something done."  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/us/politics/senate-passes-farm-bill-but-tougher-road-seen-in-house.html

He also voted in support of a 2012 Senate spending bill that was about 950billion. 

so.

[ChiComCat]

I don't like Roberts as much as the next guy, but he voted against a 1.1 trillion dollar spending bill.  Making it sound like he voted specifically against the NBAF is a stretch.

Odd.  In non-election year, Roberts introduced and passed a massive Farm Bill priced at $1 trillion, saying “It shows what can happen if we break the logjam of partisanship and work together to get something done."  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/us/politics/senate-passes-farm-bill-but-tougher-road-seen-in-house.html

He also voted in support of a 2012 Senate spending bill that was about 950billion. 

so.

He is either getting pushed right by GOP competition in his primary or he is going right for GOP Pres nomination.  Neither of those two things were an issue in 2012.

[Belvis Noland]

I don't like Roberts as much as the next guy, but he voted against a 1.1 trillion dollar spending bill.  Making it sound like he voted specifically against the NBAF is a stretch.

Odd.  In non-election year, Roberts introduced and passed a massive Farm Bill priced at $1 trillion, saying “It shows what can happen if we break the logjam of partisanship and work together to get something done."  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/us/politics/senate-passes-farm-bill-but-tougher-road-seen-in-house.html

He also voted in support of a 2012 Senate spending bill that was about 950billion. 

so.

He is either getting pushed right by GOP competition in his primary or he is going right for GOP Pres nomination.  Neither of those two things were an issue in 2012.

Yeah.  That's the point.  Politics. 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Well, to be fair, the project has nearly doubled in cost since it was first approved. It has something to do with some dumbass's decision to encase a big portion of the facility in about a foot of concrete. Apparently, it can withstand an EF-5 tornado, polar vortex, and shark-nado all at the same time.

We need to figure out how to somehow get our football renovations worked into this project. :money:

That's supposed to be dumb??

It is according to a director of the facility, whom I just spoke to in the last couple of weeks. He didn't make any secret of it. The design has been way over-built, which has doubled the cost and extended the schedule (lawsuits and funding questions didn't help either, obviously). So we're now looking at a facility that's going to cost over a billion dollars that won't be open until 2022 at the earliest. In other words, exactly what you would expect from the government.

He also had some pretty funny stories about Texas's lawsuit challenging the Manhattan location. Apparently, they actually cited Wizard if Oz as proof that Kansas was too risky because of tornados. They also cited the Greensburg tornado even though that's geographically closer to Texas than Manhattan.