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« Reply #25625 on: September 23, 2024, 09:38:42 AM »
Imagine how good the Chiefs will be if they play good. We're playing bad and winning every week. If we play good we could win by like a lot of points.

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« Reply #25626 on: September 23, 2024, 09:42:46 AM »
Imagine how good the Chiefs will be if they play good. We're playing bad and winning every week. If we play good we could win by like a lot of points.

Yeah, Mahomes hasn't been that great and Kelce is basically doing nothing. I did see something that passing yards and passing TD's are the lowest they have been at this point in the past 30 years or something. Weird QB play or defenses finally figuring stuff out??? Not a huge fan of this trend with Pacheco out, but it honestly looks like Andy can get 5 yards per carry for any RB off the street if he wants.

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« Reply #25627 on: September 23, 2024, 09:44:03 AM »
Big opportunity next week to build a commanding lead in the division against a hobbled Chargers team

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« Reply #25628 on: September 23, 2024, 09:46:12 AM »
Imagine how good the Chiefs will be if they play good. We're playing bad and winning every week. If we play good we could win by like a lot of points.

Yeah, Mahomes hasn't been that great and Kelce is basically doing nothing. I did see something that passing yards and passing TD's are the lowest they have been at this point in the past 30 years or something. Weird QB play or defenses finally figuring stuff out??? Not a huge fan of this trend with Pacheco out, but it honestly looks like Andy can get 5 yards per carry for any RB off the street if he wants.

Its a defense first team now

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« Reply #25629 on: September 23, 2024, 10:13:17 AM »
Imagine how good the Chiefs will be if they play good. We're playing bad and winning every week. If we play good we could win by like a lot of points.

Yeah, Mahomes hasn't been that great and Kelce is basically doing nothing. I did see something that passing yards and passing TD's are the lowest they have been at this point in the past 30 years or something. Weird QB play or defenses finally figuring stuff out??? Not a huge fan of this trend with Pacheco out, but it honestly looks like Andy can get 5 yards per carry for any RB off the street if he wants.

Its a defense first team now

I believe passing yards are down across the league, which is wild with all the rule and emphasis changes the past 10-15 years.
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« Reply #25630 on: September 23, 2024, 10:14:49 AM »
NFL offenses aren’t scoring as much; no one knows exactly why

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna171985
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« Reply #25631 on: September 23, 2024, 10:37:57 AM »
I think it might have something to do with defenses getting better

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« Reply #25632 on: September 23, 2024, 11:04:00 AM »
NFL offenses aren’t scoring as much; no one knows exactly why

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna171985

I mean no one will ever know EXACTLY why scoring numbers change year over year but that article had multiple plausible factors. Seems like the prevalence of Cover 2 is a big one.

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« Reply #25633 on: September 23, 2024, 11:12:40 AM »
I think it might have something to do with defenses getting better

Also a great explanation. Strategy evolves!

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« Reply #25634 on: September 23, 2024, 11:44:07 AM »
NFL offenses aren’t scoring as much; no one knows exactly why

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna171985

I mean no one will ever know EXACTLY why scoring numbers change year over year but that article had multiple plausible factors. Seems like the prevalence of Cover 2 is a big one.

Yea the cover 2 is the most plausible to me.  Takes more plays to score and lengthens the possessions thus reducing raw scoring. If the link that nic put above is pace adjusted already then I'm full of crap.
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« Reply #25635 on: September 23, 2024, 11:58:22 AM »
I wonder why teams are having such trouble vs cover 2. It’s not like it’s new.
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« Reply #25636 on: September 23, 2024, 02:54:50 PM »
I wonder why teams are having such trouble vs cover 2. It’s not like it’s new.

Players are just more athletic and it forces teams to run the ball between the tackles.  It's already a sound defense and now teams are circling back to it, safety's are longer/faster than they used to be, corners are better in the run game, linebackers are fast enough to get deep on pass plays etc.

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« Reply #25637 on: September 23, 2024, 03:55:13 PM »
I wonder why teams are having such trouble vs cover 2. It’s not like it’s new.

Players are just more athletic and it forces teams to run the ball between the tackles.  It's already a sound defense and now teams are circling back to it, safety's are longer/faster than they used to be, corners are better in the run game, linebackers are fast enough to get deep on pass plays etc.

Keeps plays in front and not deep.  Additionally, teams have focused so heavily on quality DE's that QB's no longer have the time in the pocket to allow WR's to break the cover two deep safeties. Seems like any deep pass that is successful is blown coverage or the QB scrambled around in the pocket for a long period of time for a WR to break their route and find an open deep area of the field. 
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« Reply #25638 on: September 23, 2024, 05:58:00 PM »
Cover 2 should be made illegal. Such a cowardly defense that is only run by lame ass nerds. DOWN WITH COVER 2.

Once every 4 downs defenses should be forced to have everyone within 3 yards of the line of scrimmage. Instead of sitting back 15 yards like lame ass nerds.


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« Reply #25639 on: September 23, 2024, 06:00:32 PM »
I saw a video on my algo saying that cover 2 should be banned. I didn't watch the video but it sounds like there are good arguments for the ban :th_twocents:
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« Reply #25640 on: September 23, 2024, 06:39:29 PM »
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« Reply #25641 on: September 23, 2024, 06:43:05 PM »
I say let cover 2 remain and let safeties decapitate receivers running over the middle again.
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« Reply #25642 on: September 23, 2024, 11:50:00 PM »
Is it time to start asking if the bengals will make the playoffs?
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« Reply #25643 on: September 24, 2024, 09:19:55 AM »
Is it time to start asking if the bengals will make the playoffs?

Their schedule is pretty much dog crap outside of their division - the advantages of finishing 4th in their division last year.  I think they'll get their crap together and make it but they're at least out of the running for the 1 seed.

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« Reply #25644 on: September 24, 2024, 09:59:54 AM »
Is it time to start asking if the bengals will make the playoffs?
Man, they do not look good. Tho, they have started slow in the past as well.

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« Reply #25645 on: September 24, 2024, 10:45:00 AM »
4 teams since 1990 have started 0-3 and made the playoffs  :th_twocents:
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« Reply #25646 on: September 24, 2024, 11:20:10 AM »
Sounds not great
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« Reply #25647 on: September 24, 2024, 11:51:27 AM »
if a team starts 0-3 and makes the playoffs, i would not want to face that team

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« Reply #25648 on: September 24, 2024, 11:56:05 AM »
They will make the playoffs if burrow doesn’t get injured

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« Reply #25649 on: September 24, 2024, 12:08:05 PM »
3 of the Bengals next 4 are against Panthers, Giants, Browns. If they go 3-1 or 4-0 the next 4 weeks they'll have a really good shot. If they even go 2-2 and are 2-5 it's going to be tough.