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Re: Nick
« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2010, 02:23:26 AM »
How many tournament teams were older than us?  BCS conference tournament teams?

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Re: Nick
« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2010, 07:24:12 AM »
JFC, way to ruin a goddamn good thread. We were getting excellent insider info, then SD had to be funny and pull out the Spradling joke. JFC. STACKED I tell you!!!

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« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2010, 09:13:23 AM »
Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked.  Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.

Colon started...  and Energy played significant minutes at crucial times for God's sake.  We were NOT stacked.

I swear to God we have to have the stupidest basketball fanbase in the country.

Was Duke stacked?  They had Brian Zoubek and Lance Thomas playing big minutes.
Was Kansas stacked?  They had Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed playing big minutes.
Texas with Dogus Balbay, West Virginia with Cam Throughman and Wellington Smith.

Do you know what role players are?  Every player isn't going to be a star.  Those players were not asked to score at crucial times,  Luis was never even on the floor at crucial times and when Energy was it was for well Energy.  All teams have limited skilled role players who see the court.

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JFC, comparing Zoubs and Lance Thomas to Colon and Merriweather.  :flush:  Not all role players suck equally.


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Re: Nick
« Reply #78 on: July 07, 2010, 09:23:04 AM »
Really?  How so?  We're really not that far apart on our opinions here.... 

Bozo:   "We were NOT stacked."

MIR:     "I swear to God we have to have the stupidest basketball fanbase in the country."


Yup, everybody seems to be on the same page, here. 

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« Reply #79 on: July 07, 2010, 10:06:34 AM »
We had two of the best guards in the country.  Period.  We weren't deep at that spot, and I don't know if that means we were stacked, but we were pretty damn good.

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« Reply #80 on: July 07, 2010, 10:24:59 AM »
We had two of the best guards in the country.  Period.  We weren't deep at that spot.

pretty much sums it up.  plus kelly and a bunch of other interchangeable, decent bigs.
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« Reply #81 on: July 07, 2010, 10:30:15 AM »
Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked.  Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.

Colon started...  and Energy played significant minutes at crucial times for God's sake.  We were NOT stacked.

I swear to God we have to have the stupidest basketball fanbase in the country.

Was Duke stacked?  They had Brian Zoubek and Lance Thomas playing big minutes.
Was Kansas stacked?  They had Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed playing big minutes.
Texas with Dogus Balbay, West Virginia with Cam Throughman and Wellington Smith.

Do you know what role players are?  Every player isn't going to be a star.  Those players were not asked to score at crucial times,  Luis was never even on the floor at crucial times and when Energy was it was for well Energy.  All teams have limited skilled role players who see the court.

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JFC, comparing Zoubs and Lance Thomas to Colon and Merriweather.  :flush:  Not all role players suck equally.

yeah, don't understand that one.  or even he ku comparo.  i'd have sucked off a stranger to have brady or tyrel instead of irving or energy. or wellington smith instead of colon.  Denis, Pulls, Sutton, Kelly, Colon w/Sams as the 6th man & Judge getting minutes later in the year    ...that is/was pretty good.   And now next year we lose 3 of those 7.  

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« Reply #82 on: July 07, 2010, 11:50:49 AM »
Hell no, we weren't totally loaded like a UNC, UK, KU, etc but we were pretty stacked.  Solid talent, several deep at pretty much every spot.

Colon started...  and Energy played significant minutes at crucial times for God's sake.  We were NOT stacked.

I swear to God we have to have the stupidest basketball fanbase in the country.

Was Duke stacked?  They had Brian Zoubek and Lance Thomas playing big minutes.
Was Kansas stacked?  They had Brady Morningstar and Tyrel Reed playing big minutes.
Texas with Dogus Balbay, West Virginia with Cam Throughman and Wellington Smith.

Do you know what role players are?  Every player isn't going to be a star.  Those players were not asked to score at crucial times,  Luis was never even on the floor at crucial times and when Energy was it was for well Energy.  All teams have limited skilled role players who see the court.

dumbasses
JFC, comparing Zoubs and Lance Thomas to Colon and Merriweather.  :flush:  Not all role players suck equally.

yeah, don't understand that one.  or even he ku comparo.  i'd have sucked off a stranger to have brady or tyrel instead of irving or energy. or wellington smith instead of colon.  Denis, Pulls, Sutton, Kelly, Colon w/Sams as the 6th man & Judge getting minutes later in the year    ...that is/was pretty good.   And now next year we lose 3 of those 7.  

Zoubek shouldn't have been included, although if he played for KSU we would have idiot fans complaining about his lack of scoring.  The rest of the guys I mentioned would have been limited role players, just like Lu and Energy were.  I wouldn't take Brady or Tyrel instead of Energy.  Those guys provided scoring and not much else, did we need more scoring at the guard spots?  Round pegs, square hole.  Why would you compare Wellington Smith to Luis?  Do you know who Smith is?  A better comparo would be Smith to Sutton or Samuels.  That proves my point about a "stacked" team, who would you rather have, Samuels, Sutton, or Smith?

Even though he started Lu was at times the 5th big man option, its stupid to point to those guys as to why the team wasn't "stacked."   

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« Reply #83 on: July 07, 2010, 12:45:20 PM »
brady and tyrel played just as much defense as energy and provided a hint of offense.  energy wasn't some goddamned defensive wizard and he provided nothing offensively. 

having multiple players at one position doesn't mean the team is fracking stacked.  we had a decent 7 which gave us a good team.  after that?.....

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« Reply #84 on: July 07, 2010, 01:38:22 PM »
When you're bringing doodz like JamSam, Wally, Hotrod, etc off your bench, you're pretty stacked.

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Re: Nick
« Reply #85 on: July 07, 2010, 02:00:23 PM »
last year's ksu men's basketball team had the most stacked ksu men's basketball team since ___________ ?

1988.  relative to the little college basketball emaw has witnessed in their lifetime i can see why people think last year's team was stacked.  lu colon doesn't start for any 'stacked' team

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« Reply #86 on: July 07, 2010, 03:06:15 PM »
last year's ksu men's basketball team had the most stacked ksu men's basketball team since ___________ ?

1988.  relative to the little college basketball emaw has witnessed in their lifetime i can see why people think last year's team was stacked.  lu colon doesn't start for any 'stacked' team


Was 1988 really that stacked?  I would have to go back to 1958 With Boozer and Par.  But what eve's don't really care how stacked we are I just know we are going to be good this year see Steve Dave's how good are we going to be this year thread.

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Re: Nick
« Reply #87 on: July 07, 2010, 03:13:29 PM »
To quote some irelevant radio announcer a few years back, you all have "been beat by the dumb stick."
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Re: Nick
« Reply #88 on: July 07, 2010, 03:30:07 PM »
last year's ksu men's basketball team had the most stacked ksu men's basketball team since ___________ ?

1988.  relative to the little college basketball emaw has witnessed in their lifetime i can see why people think last year's team was stacked.  lu colon doesn't start for any 'stacked' team


Was 1988 really that stacked? 

pffff everyone knows we weren't stacked in 88', we were "LOADED", dumbass

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« Reply #89 on: July 07, 2010, 03:47:08 PM »
Just to clear things up with the whole "stacked or not" debate...

no, i guess if asked i wouldn't call last teams stacked; more like well-constructed. we had the right pieces at the right spots to be very successful in college basketball. we didn't have elite (although very good) talent, or elite depth.

overall, both our overall talent level and depth level will be better next year. on paper it's the best ksu team top to bottom any of us have seen before, so might as well call it stacked. we shall see.

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« Reply #90 on: July 07, 2010, 03:48:42 PM »
shazbot!, tough crowd to please

everyone these days is young. we had one of the older teams in the nation. we had system continuity. we had some of the best and most experienced guards in a guard-driven league. we had an inside scoring threat.  we had length, athleticism, and enough depth. probably 7 times out of ten we beat butler, we're in the final four, and then who knows. we were a national title favorite for crying out loud. in this day of one and done's everyone's got a weakness. i don't even know what the hell i'm arguing right now. i never said we were stacked, but whether you think we were or not, let's at least agree to stop discussing made up college positions like the "5-spot". we are fans of elite basketball now, let's act like it.



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our starting line-up and first guy off the bench were old as hell... and add in CK. we had a big frosh class but minutes-wise we were old.

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Re: Nick
« Reply #91 on: July 07, 2010, 04:07:41 PM »
Zoubek shouldn't have been included, although if he played for KSU we would have idiot fans complaining about his lack of scoring.

No, I would beat them into submission w/ his insane rebounding stats and 63% FG%.  They wouldn't complain for long.  You really gave pretty horrible examples all around.

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« Reply #92 on: July 07, 2010, 08:26:21 PM »
Zoubek shouldn't have been included, although if he played for KSU we would have idiot fans complaining about his lack of scoring.

No, I would beat them into submission w/ his insane rebounding stats and 63% FG%.  They wouldn't complain for long.  You really gave pretty horrible examples all around.

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« Reply #93 on: July 09, 2010, 10:23:03 AM »
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year.  thats pretty stacked.


back to the topic, I personally think Russell would have played as much as JP did as a freshman if the roster was what it was in '07-'08.  This season I'd like to see Nick get the early minutes with Irving filling in as the "hustle" guy. 

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Re: Nick
« Reply #94 on: July 09, 2010, 10:25:41 AM »
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year.  thats pretty stacked.

WTF

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« Reply #95 on: July 09, 2010, 10:34:08 AM »
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year.  thats pretty stacked.

WTF

judge, pullen, kelly, samuels, clems, mcgruder

i think they could all see a cup of coffee. 


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Re: Nick
« Reply #96 on: July 09, 2010, 10:44:15 AM »
I would like to facepunch like 95% of the people on this board.  :facepalm:

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Re: Nick
« Reply #97 on: July 09, 2010, 11:10:00 AM »
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year.  thats pretty stacked.


I count 2, maybe 3 that will be drafted, probably 0 that will start or play sig minutes in the league.

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Re: Nick
« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2010, 11:23:32 AM »
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year.  thats pretty stacked.

WTF

judge, pullen, kelly, samuels, clems, mcgruder

i think they could all see a cup of coffee. 



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Re: Nick
« Reply #99 on: July 09, 2010, 11:30:26 AM »
when its all said and done, there may have been 6 nba guys on our roster last year.  thats pretty stacked.


I count 2, maybe 3 that will be drafted, probably 0 that will start or play sig minutes in the league.

i would tend to lean more to this than anything else.  but the potential is there for any of those 6 to get a significant look from the NBA.  thats all i was really saying.