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« Reply #100 on: May 04, 2025, 09:48:58 AM »
Nic, I really can't tell when you're faking anymore. What's your stance on fluoride in drinking water?
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« Reply #101 on: May 04, 2025, 11:40:23 AM »
Nic, I really can't tell when you're faking anymore. What's your stance on fluoride in drinking water?

I don’t know if flouride amounts found in drinking water are dangerous or not. Probably doesn’t hurt for it not to be in things like drinking water or toothpaste. It’s always good to have scientists continue to try to tear down consensus, especially if science says something is safe.
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« Reply #102 on: May 04, 2025, 11:43:04 AM »
You have drank it everyday of almost your entire life bud.

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« Reply #103 on: May 04, 2025, 11:44:40 AM »
Just keep it in and those who don't want it can filter it out.  Seems pretty reasonable to me.
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« Reply #104 on: May 04, 2025, 11:47:37 AM »
Just keep it in and those who don't want it can filter it out.  Seems pretty reasonable to me.

That’s fair

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« Reply #105 on: May 04, 2025, 11:53:21 AM »
You have drank it everyday of almost your entire life bud.

Well, my pineal gland certainly isn’t decalcified. I mean, we used to have lead in paint and asbestos in insulation. Also, I’ve used filtered water most of my life, including now with our top-shelf reverse osmosis system from EcoWater.

Also, Wichita’s public water is not fluoridated.

Most top tier water filtration systems filter out fluoride.
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« Reply #106 on: May 04, 2025, 12:01:50 PM »
You have drank it everyday of almost your entire life bud.

Well, my pineal gland certainly isn’t decalcified. I mean, we used to have lead in paint and asbestos in insulation. Also, I’ve used filtered water most of my life, including now with our top-shelf reverse osmosis system from EcoWater.

Also, Wichita’s public water is not fluoridated.

Most top tier water filtration systems filter out fluoride.

Well now comparing lead paint and asbestos to fluoride kind of loses me.  Fill up your brita

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« Reply #107 on: May 04, 2025, 01:20:11 PM »
Nic, I really can't tell when you're faking anymore. What's your stance on fluoride in drinking water?

I don’t know if flouride amounts found in drinking water are dangerous or not. Probably doesn’t hurt for it not to be in things like drinking water or toothpaste. It’s always good to have scientists continue to try to tear down consensus, especially if science says something is safe.
I think it definitely would hurt to not have fluoride in toothpaste. I think that’s like most of the benefit of brushing at all.

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« Reply #108 on: May 04, 2025, 01:40:39 PM »
Nic, I really can't tell when you're faking anymore. What's your stance on fluoride in drinking water?

I don’t know if flouride amounts found in drinking water are dangerous or not. Probably doesn’t hurt for it not to be in things like drinking water or toothpaste. It’s always good to have scientists continue to try to tear down consensus, especially if science says something is safe.

The thing is, none of this exists in a vacuum.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-01396-2

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Staff members at the US National Science Foundation (NSF) were told on 30 April to “stop awarding all funding actions until further notice,” according to an email seen by Nature.

The policy prevents the NSF, one of the world’s biggest supporters of basic research, from awarding new research grants and from supplying allotted funds for existing grants, such as those that receive yearly increments of money. The email does not provide a reason for the freeze and says that it will last “until further notice”.

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« Reply #109 on: May 04, 2025, 02:21:21 PM »
Guess all that’s left is to “do your own research.”

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« Reply #110 on: May 04, 2025, 03:33:19 PM »
Guess all that’s left is to “do your own research.”

Once we have all flushed the chemicals out of our body and all of our pineal glands are decalcified, we will see truth clearly.

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« Reply #111 on: May 04, 2025, 04:37:05 PM »
Nic, I really can't tell when you're faking anymore. What's your stance on fluoride in drinking water?

I don’t know if flouride amounts found in drinking water are dangerous or not. Probably doesn’t hurt for it not to be in things like drinking water or toothpaste. It’s always good to have scientists continue to try to tear down consensus, especially if science says something is safe.

The outright rejection of learned authority out of hand is a troubling symptom of the anti-intellectualism movement driven by Trump that is sweeping the country. There is some RFK Jr. in you.
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« Reply #112 on: May 04, 2025, 05:09:53 PM »
Nic, I really can't tell when you're faking anymore. What's your stance on fluoride in drinking water?

I don’t know if flouride amounts found in drinking water are dangerous or not. Probably doesn’t hurt for it not to be in things like drinking water or toothpaste. It’s always good to have scientists continue to try to tear down consensus, especially if science says something is safe.

The outright rejection of learned authority out of hand is a troubling symptom of the anti-intellectualism movement driven by Trump that is sweeping the country. There is some RFK Jr. in you.
I mean, arguing that it’s best for scientists to continue to test and try to disprove theory/consensus/prevailing thought, even consensus, is the backbone of the scientific method and academia. To argue that it’s anti-intellectual is a pretty rough argument to make.

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« Reply #113 on: May 04, 2025, 05:23:44 PM »
Nic, I really can't tell when you're faking anymore. What's your stance on fluoride in drinking water?

I don’t know if flouride amounts found in drinking water are dangerous or not. Probably doesn’t hurt for it not to be in things like drinking water or toothpaste. It’s always good to have scientists continue to try to tear down consensus, especially if science says something is safe.

The outright rejection of learned authority out of hand is a troubling symptom of the anti-intellectualism movement driven by Trump that is sweeping the country. There is some RFK Jr. in you.
I mean, arguing that it’s best for scientists to continue to test and try to disprove theory/consensus/prevailing thought, even consensus, is the backbone of the scientific method and academia. To argue that it’s anti-intellectual is a pretty rough argument to make.

And that backbone is severely weakened because it has polio

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« Reply #114 on: May 04, 2025, 05:29:14 PM »
How much continued argument is needed?  Science isn’t faith. We will never get a reputable scientist say anything is 100%.  If it’s replicated or tested with similar results, is that adequate?  Should we retest every 10 yrs? 50yrs?  Will it become settled science at some point to the extent that a new generation of skeptics should be able to consider it a closed case, or should we have to prove settled science to all comers who refuse past scientific work?  Where is that line and when are we done kicking ourselves because there isn’t a current and relevant reality tv star backing the science?

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« Reply #115 on: May 04, 2025, 05:43:13 PM »
Nic, I really can't tell when you're faking anymore. What's your stance on fluoride in drinking water?

I don’t know if flouride amounts found in drinking water are dangerous or not. Probably doesn’t hurt for it not to be in things like drinking water or toothpaste. It’s always good to have scientists continue to try to tear down consensus, especially if science says something is safe.

The outright rejection of learned authority out of hand is a troubling symptom of the anti-intellectualism movement driven by Trump that is sweeping the country. There is some RFK Jr. in you.
I mean, arguing that it’s best for scientists to continue to test and try to disprove theory/consensus/prevailing thought, even consensus, is the backbone of the scientific method and academia. To argue that it’s anti-intellectual is a pretty rough argument to make.

But changing the status quo that is backed by well-established, credible science before you find any convincing evidence that the status quo is harmful? That sounds bunk. The only reason to do that is in service of a belief in conspiracies or, worse, a desire to pander to those poor souls who do. Absent exceptional circumstances not present here, the status quo should be maintained unless the person asking to disturb it puts forth convincing-enough evidence of the merits to the appropriate standard (of production, persuasion, or proof). To do otherwise would be to embrace anarchy and/or nihilism, which just so happens to be in vogue right now among a certain voting bloc. Also, the stuff CNS said.
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« Reply #116 on: May 04, 2025, 06:07:43 PM »
Just eat your lentils, man.
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« Reply #117 on: May 04, 2025, 07:34:26 PM »
It’s rough ridin' bonkers that lunatics got everyone believing that if something isn’t 100% verifiable (by them mostly) that it’s probably bad. Everyone is so rough ridin' stupid.

eff all that research that has been done for decades, batshit crazy people say that stuff might be bad. Do your own research, but it’s probably bad so start your algorithm there.


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« Reply #118 on: May 04, 2025, 08:45:57 PM »
It’s rough ridin' bonkers that lunatics got everyone believing that if something isn’t 100% verifiable (by them mostly) that it’s probably bad. Everyone is so rough ridin' stupid.

eff all that research that has been done for decades, batshit crazy people say that stuff might be bad. Do your own research, but it’s probably bad so start your algorithm there.


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The problem is that skepticism is fundamental to the scientific process, so there’s a kernel of truth to the philosophy.

A great example is the guidance on flossing. For years (decades?) it was treated as critically important for oral hygiene until just a few years ago when someone actually probed into the evidence behind the guidance and realized it was actually super thin.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/tossing-flossing-2016081710196

Where it gets twisted is that a lot of people have zero appreciation for study quality, so if they have a feeling and there is ANYTHING out there to validate it, that’s going to be the truth for them. So it’s latching on to one piece of the scientific method without really understanding (or caring) why that piece is even important.

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« Reply #119 on: May 04, 2025, 08:55:40 PM »
It’s rough ridin' bonkers that lunatics got everyone believing that if something isn’t 100% verifiable (by them mostly) that it’s probably bad. Everyone is so rough ridin' stupid.

eff all that research that has been done for decades, batshit crazy people say that stuff might be bad. Do your own research, but it’s probably bad so start your algorithm there.


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The problem is that skepticism is fundamental to the scientific process, so there’s a kernel of truth to the philosophy.

A great example is the guidance on flossing. For years (decades?) it was treated as critically important for oral hygiene until just a few years ago when someone actually probed into the evidence behind the guidance and realized it was actually super thin.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/tossing-flossing-2016081710196

Where it gets twisted is that a lot of people have zero appreciation for study quality, so if they have a feeling and there is ANYTHING out there to validate it, that’s going to be the truth for them. So it’s latching on to one piece of the scientific method without really understanding (or caring) why that piece is even important.
I mean sure, we should always and constantly be testing and analyzing crap. That’s completely different than a guy that ate a dead whale, says he has a brain worm, and has zero medical training making health decisions for everyone in the US.


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« Reply #120 on: May 05, 2025, 01:29:07 PM »
It’s rough ridin' bonkers that lunatics got everyone believing that if something isn’t 100% verifiable (by them mostly) that it’s probably bad. Everyone is so rough ridin' stupid.

eff all that research that has been done for decades, batshit crazy people say that stuff might be bad. Do your own research, but it’s probably bad so start your algorithm there.


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« Reply #121 on: May 05, 2025, 08:00:06 PM »
I can't believe Spracne mind mumped you all into eating poverty food

It was described to me as "a poor man's meal" by the woman who taught me it. It really is unbelievably cheap to make, especially if you're buying in bulk. It's surprisingly good and also perfectly balanced in macronutrients.
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« Reply #122 on: May 06, 2025, 06:59:20 AM »
I can't believe Spracne mind mumped you all into eating poverty food

It was described to me as "a poor man's meal" by the woman who taught me it. It really is unbelievably cheap to make, especially if you're buying in bulk. It's surprisingly good and also perfectly balanced in macronutrients.
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« Reply #123 on: May 06, 2025, 03:54:57 PM »
It’s rough ridin' bonkers that lunatics got everyone believing that if something isn’t 100% verifiable (by them mostly) that it’s probably bad. Everyone is so rough ridin' stupid.

eff all that research that has been done for decades, batshit crazy people say that stuff might be bad. Do your own research, but it’s probably bad so start your algorithm there.


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The problem is that skepticism is fundamental to the scientific process, so there’s a kernel of truth to the philosophy.

A great example is the guidance on flossing. For years (decades?) it was treated as critically important for oral hygiene until just a few years ago when someone actually probed into the evidence behind the guidance and realized it was actually super thin.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/tossing-flossing-2016081710196

Where it gets twisted is that a lot of people have zero appreciation for study quality, so if they have a feeling and there is ANYTHING out there to validate it, that’s going to be the truth for them. So it’s latching on to one piece of the scientific method without really understanding (or caring) why that piece is even important.

If I don't floss for a few days, my gums hurt.

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« Reply #124 on: May 06, 2025, 03:56:03 PM »
Nic, I really can't tell when you're faking anymore. What's your stance on fluoride in drinking water?

I don’t know if flouride amounts found in drinking water are dangerous or not. Probably doesn’t hurt for it not to be in things like drinking water or toothpaste. It’s always good to have scientists continue to try to tear down consensus, especially if science says something is safe.

There isn't any point in using toothpaste that doesn't have fluoride.