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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1151 on: February 20, 2025, 10:38:46 PM »
What a strange video
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1152 on: February 20, 2025, 10:53:53 PM »
What a strange video

he summarizes why MAGA won. the country has many more of him than they have of me. sucks, but we are where we are and I'll do ok either way.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1153 on: February 21, 2025, 05:44:22 AM »


Imagine waking up to realize you’re in the same part of the Venn diagram as this


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1155 on: February 23, 2025, 09:41:14 AM »
What a strange video

he summarizes why MAGA won. the country has many more of him than they have of me. sucks, but we are where we are and I'll do ok either way.

I agree with the entirety of your post.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1156 on: February 23, 2025, 05:33:40 PM »
When those internal State Department memos say they can’t be sure who is ultimately getting the money . . .

https://twitter.com/james_jinnette1/status/1892990992543797564?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1157 on: February 23, 2025, 08:49:03 PM »
I am factually smarter than Elon Musk, which should not be a surprise to anyone

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1158 on: February 23, 2025, 09:10:05 PM »
When those internal State Department memos say they can’t be sure who is ultimately getting the money . . .

https://twitter.com/james_jinnette1/status/1892990992543797564?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1159 on: February 24, 2025, 06:57:48 AM »
I’m still waiting for Doge to dive into the defense contractors.  If they do, and the secure the targeted $1T savings, then all their blundering will be worth it in my opinion. Meaningful disruption of the status quo in the defense industry has to be the goal or they are just petty vengeful goons deployed by an unserious clown of a president.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1160 on: February 24, 2025, 08:17:34 AM »
I’m still waiting for Doge to dive into the defense contractors.  If they do, and the secure the targeted $1T savings, then all their blundering will be worth it in my opinion. Meaningful disruption of the status quo in the defense industry has to be the goal or they are just petty vengeful goons deployed by an unserious clown of a president.

Why do you think they didn't start with defense contractors?

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1161 on: February 24, 2025, 09:14:51 AM »
I am factually smarter than Elon Musk, which should not be a surprise to anyone

https://x.com/thomaschattwill/status/1893820805793927350

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1162 on: February 24, 2025, 10:30:48 AM »
I’m still waiting for Doge to dive into the defense contractors.  If they do, and the secure the targeted $1T savings, then all their blundering will be worth it in my opinion. Meaningful disruption of the status quo in the defense industry has to be the goal or they are just petty vengeful goons deployed by an unserious clown of a president.

Why do you think they didn't start with defense contractors?

I think since 2023 Trump’s opposition would have suspected that Trump’s first priority would be items in the Project 2025 agenda, and that appears to be true (cultural based culling of the alleged woke in federal leadership positions and staff).  The second level priority seems to be cost savings at large.  As for why their second level priority hasn’t dug into Defense, I’d argue it’s because Defense really runs this country and they don’t have the authority.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1163 on: February 24, 2025, 10:42:37 AM »
I’m still waiting for Doge to dive into the defense contractors.  If they do, and the secure the targeted $1T savings, then all their blundering will be worth it in my opinion. Meaningful disruption of the status quo in the defense industry has to be the goal or they are just petty vengeful goons deployed by an unserious clown of a president.

Why do you think they didn't start with defense contractors?

I think since 2023 Trump’s opposition would have suspected that Trump’s first priority would be items in the Project 2025 agenda, and that appears to be true (cultural based culling of the alleged woke in federal leadership positions and staff).  The second level priority seems to be cost savings at large.  As for why their second level priority hasn’t dug into Defense, I’d argue it’s because Defense really runs this country and they don’t have the authority.

Right, which is why I think your last sentence in your original post ends up feeling/ringing true (so far). They are going for pennies when there are hundreds of billions to look after.

I also think, too add onto your own, seriously slashing the defense budget would (probably) look weak coming from them. It would send a weird signal to be so "pro military" (not that they (trump/elon)  are, just who supports them are) and then ax like 100 bill off it (if they every do something like that). It'd be the actual most meaning spending cuts, but I don't know how easy of a sell it is to their voters to be like HEY WE JUST SAVED YOU 100 BILLION (and I'm just making up a number for affect) when it's easy to ax soft power stuff like they have been doing. I think it would come off as weird to shout that out loud if they do. If they actually want to do that they definitely are working on the messaging to try do that.
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1164 on: February 24, 2025, 11:11:30 AM »
Yep

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1165 on: February 24, 2025, 11:18:33 AM »
The mumped up paradox is that our best hope for slashing defense spending while still maintaining defense quality is the tech disrupters like SpaceX and Starlink, Anduril, Plantir and others and the bitch is that their leaders are arguably no better morally or ethically than the legacy group.  The “good” thing about the new tech guys is that they are used to doing things at a much lower cost than the legacy group.   They would eventually need just as much or more risk of constant disruption in order to keep costs lower.

At this point, any silver lining we have is wonderful and incredibly significant…the defense industry hasn’t been disrupted since Eisenhower warned us of the power of the military industrial complex.

We can pay for any social program you can name if we save materially on defense.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1166 on: February 24, 2025, 01:25:52 PM »
I’m still waiting for Doge to dive into the defense contractors.  If they do, and the secure the targeted $1T savings, then all their blundering will be worth it in my opinion. Meaningful disruption of the status quo in the defense industry has to be the goal or they are just petty vengeful goons deployed by an unserious clown of a president.

Why do you think they didn't start with defense contractors?

Mostly impossible to score woke wins for morons with the Defense guys.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1167 on: February 24, 2025, 02:41:36 PM »
They didn't start with defense contractors because that's who is most likely to have them killed
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1168 on: February 24, 2025, 03:42:00 PM »
The mumped up paradox is that our best hope for slashing defense spending while still maintaining defense quality is the tech disrupters like SpaceX and Starlink, Anduril, Plantir and others and the bitch is that their leaders are arguably no better morally or ethically than the legacy group.  The “good” thing about the new tech guys is that they are used to doing things at a much lower cost than the legacy group.   They would eventually need just as much or more risk of constant disruption in order to keep costs lower.

At this point, any silver lining we have is wonderful and incredibly significant…the defense industry hasn’t been disrupted since Eisenhower warned us of the power of the military industrial complex.

We can pay for any social program you can name if we save materially on defense.

I think this has been known and pushed for quite some time. Even if we spent $600 bill on the military we'd still be running circles around our adversaries, and could actually afford crap. Them not going for that or even really making anything meaningful without addressing the 900 billion dollar gorilla in the room.
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1171 on: February 25, 2025, 07:40:50 AM »
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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1172 on: February 25, 2025, 07:48:21 AM »
Republicans won't kill off their main block of voters. 

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1173 on: February 25, 2025, 09:03:41 AM »
Republicans won't kill off their main block of voters.

i might agree with you if i wasn't alive for covid.

but also their voter block is a renewable resource

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #1174 on: February 25, 2025, 09:27:44 AM »
Republicans won't kill off their main block of voters.

i might agree with you if i wasn't alive for covid.

but also their voter block is a renewable resource

IDK about renewable, but they will always vote against themselves so I agree with that
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