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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #800 on: February 11, 2025, 06:44:20 PM »
I'm not sure he knows what a blank check is

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #801 on: February 11, 2025, 06:54:13 PM »
I am in complete disbelief

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #802 on: February 11, 2025, 07:05:32 PM »
I started getting bored and annoyed so I look to see that I'm only 90 seconds into a 20 minute video.
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #805 on: February 11, 2025, 10:08:55 PM »
OPM spent a $106 million trying to modernize and failed. So they just kept doing this

https://twitter.com/doge/status/1889437908094042277?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #807 on: February 11, 2025, 10:12:32 PM »
#blueanon/#blueanongE is taking their New McCarthyite psychotic paranoia into new realms.

Russians under every rock. Anyone who questions their now generational grift is a fascist.

The lashing out is at 14/7 levels.


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #808 on: February 11, 2025, 10:14:23 PM »
https://www.thenerdreich.com/reboot-elon-musk-ceo-dictator-doge/

https://bsky.app/profile/brendannyhan.bsky.social/post/3lhvx77lumk2p

Similar observation but I prefer this.
That’s incredible knowing that Democrats ceded their entire establishment to political elite grifters, megacorps and the perpetual war complex. 


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #809 on: February 12, 2025, 06:09:47 AM »
OPM spent a $106 million trying to modernize and failed. So they just kept doing this

https://twitter.com/doge/status/1889437908094042277?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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Honestly this seems like something worth addressing but because it comes from musk I assume we're not getting the full story (or are being intentionally misled. Also this seems like something that will take some investment to fix!

https://www.gsa.gov/about-us/newsroom/news-releases/tmf-announces-investments-modernizing-federal-retirement-and-immigration-systems-12032024

https://www.opm.gov/retirement-center/retirement-statistics/

https://www.opm.gov/about-us/reports-publications/agency-reports/5-feb-25-rs-processing.pdf

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #810 on: February 12, 2025, 08:08:44 AM »
I’ve dealt with OPM when my mother passed. Processing the death benefits in her Federal retirement took 3.5 months. 

When I had to call because information wasn’t in her portal. Forget about calling after about 1:30 Eastern. Nobody was going to answer.

The privatized portion such as 3rd party managed life insurance took about 2-3 weeks.


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #811 on: February 12, 2025, 08:14:47 AM »
The existing federal government is definitely not as dumb as Musk

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8YPJGD9/

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #812 on: February 12, 2025, 08:45:30 AM »
OPM spent a $106 million trying to modernize and failed. So they just kept doing this

https://twitter.com/doge/status/1889437908094042277?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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Honestly this seems like something worth addressing but because it comes from musk I assume we're not getting the full story (or are being intentionally misled. Also this seems like something that will take some investment to fix!

https://www.gsa.gov/about-us/newsroom/news-releases/tmf-announces-investments-modernizing-federal-retirement-and-immigration-systems-12032024

https://www.opm.gov/retirement-center/retirement-statistics/

https://www.opm.gov/about-us/reports-publications/agency-reports/5-feb-25-rs-processing.pdf
He definitely should be scrutinized, but his track record is his teams solving inefficiencies or obstacles that others have insisted on maintaining or ignoring. If nothing else, even his biggest enemies must grant him that.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #813 on: February 12, 2025, 08:59:04 AM »
OPM spent a $106 million trying to modernize and failed. So they just kept doing this

https://twitter.com/doge/status/1889437908094042277?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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Honestly this seems like something worth addressing but because it comes from musk I assume we're not getting the full story (or are being intentionally misled. Also this seems like something that will take some investment to fix!

https://www.gsa.gov/about-us/newsroom/news-releases/tmf-announces-investments-modernizing-federal-retirement-and-immigration-systems-12032024

https://www.opm.gov/retirement-center/retirement-statistics/

https://www.opm.gov/about-us/reports-publications/agency-reports/5-feb-25-rs-processing.pdf
He definitely should be scrutinized, but his track record is his teams solving inefficiencies or obstacles that others have insisted on maintaining or ignoring. If nothing else, even his biggest enemies must grant him that.

I shared a link showing that federal employee retirement processing was not being ignored.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #814 on: February 12, 2025, 09:17:39 AM »
No one said it was being ignored, but like with most government things, they throw money at it, and don't really fix it.

The oversight on waste-fruad-abuse runs from zealot level for some stuff, to a complete grifter state on other things. USAID was a grifter state. Ukraine is a Grifter State - that's why #blueanon fiercely opposes auditing.

USAID also not being disbanded, so there is no constitutional crisis (I mean  :lol: :lol: :lol: ).  It is absolutely 1000% within the purview of the Chief Executive to realign any Federal agency that falls under the Executive Branch.

Bush, Barry and President Full Lid made multiple alignment and structural changes to USAID, unfortunately that only served to expand the USAID Grifter State.




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Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #815 on: February 12, 2025, 09:52:27 AM »
OPM spent a $106 million trying to modernize and failed. So they just kept doing this

https://twitter.com/doge/status/1889437908094042277?s=46&t=-jwPwnR3rKHM9sk9hA7h8g


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Honestly this seems like something worth addressing but because it comes from musk I assume we're not getting the full story (or are being intentionally misled. Also this seems like something that will take some investment to fix!

https://www.gsa.gov/about-us/newsroom/news-releases/tmf-announces-investments-modernizing-federal-retirement-and-immigration-systems-12032024

https://www.opm.gov/retirement-center/retirement-statistics/

https://www.opm.gov/about-us/reports-publications/agency-reports/5-feb-25-rs-processing.pdf
He definitely should be scrutinized, but his track record is his teams solving inefficiencies or obstacles that others have insisted on maintaining or ignoring. If nothing else, even his biggest enemies must grant him that.

I shared a link showing that federal employee retirement processing was not being ignored.
Give me the cliff notes, man. I don’t have time to read all the rough ridin' links!

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #816 on: February 12, 2025, 09:53:34 AM »
Also, let’s hope that we don’t have typical government contractors working on that.

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Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #817 on: February 12, 2025, 09:54:28 AM »
No one said it was being ignored, but like with most government things, they throw money at it, and don't really fix it.

The oversight on waste-fruad-abuse runs from zealot level for some stuff, to a complete grifter state on other things. USAID was a grifter state. Ukraine is a Grifter State - that's why #blueanon fiercely opposes auditing.

USAID also not being disbanded, so there is no constitutional crisis (I mean  :lol: :lol: :lol: ).  It is absolutely 1000% within the purview of the Chief Executive to realign any Federal agency that falls under the Executive Branch.

Bush, Barry and President Full Lid made multiple alignment and structural changes to USAID, unfortunately that only served to expand the USAID Grifter State.
Dax, as usual you’re not entirely wrong and you’re not entirely right. It would be much more helpful for the conversation if you didn’t bring up a bunch of old crap.

EDIT: I misread your post you actually did a pretty good job on this one

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #818 on: February 12, 2025, 11:06:41 AM »
Give me the cliff notes, man. I don’t have time to read all the rough ridin' links!

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The $18.3 million TMF investment will support OPM’s transition away from legacy systems, enabling a comprehensive modernization of the agency’s core infrastructure. This transformation is expected to significantly reduce annual maintenance costs while providing an enhanced customer experience for 2.8 million federal annuitants and survivors.

Also, let’s hope that we don’t have typical government contractors working on that.

yeah I think that is fair!

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #819 on: February 12, 2025, 11:24:49 AM »
Give me the cliff notes, man. I don’t have time to read all the rough ridin' links!

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The $18.3 million TMF investment will support OPM’s transition away from legacy systems, enabling a comprehensive modernization of the agency’s core infrastructure. This transformation is expected to significantly reduce annual maintenance costs while providing an enhanced customer experience for 2.8 million federal annuitants and survivors.

Also, let’s hope that we don’t have typical government contractors working on that.

yeah I think that is fair!

Definitely in very poor taste and deliberately misleading for Elon not to mention that there’s a giant rough ridin' project associated with cleaning that up . I do not like that.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #820 on: February 12, 2025, 11:26:00 AM »
It’s still a useful anecdote to illustrate the challenges of the federal government and the opportunities, but was super misleading the way that he portrayed it while standing in the oval office.

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« Reply #821 on: February 12, 2025, 12:16:57 PM »
It’s still a useful anecdote to illustrate the challenges of the federal government and the opportunities, but was super misleading the way that he portrayed it while standing in the oval office.

yes, also this link shows 138,000 retirements were processed in 2014 which makes his claim of 10000 per month because of an elevator seem dubious. https://www.opm.gov/retirement-center/retirement-statistics/

even then, why would you need the capacity to process 10000 retirements in a month when you have only had the annual equivalent of 10000 per month once in the last 25 years?

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« Reply #822 on: February 12, 2025, 12:57:45 PM »
It’s still a useful anecdote to illustrate the challenges of the federal government and the opportunities, but was super misleading the way that he portrayed it while standing in the oval office.

yes, also this link shows 138,000 retirements were processed in 2014 which makes his claim of 10000 per month because of an elevator seem dubious. https://www.opm.gov/retirement-center/retirement-statistics/

even then, why would you need the capacity to process 10000 retirements in a month when you have only had the annual equivalent of 10000 per month once in the last 25 years?

And in theory, shouldn't there be less fed employees hitting retirement after their "cleanout" anyway?

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #824 on: February 12, 2025, 01:34:38 PM »
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1889062581848944961

Whoa, could this be the tweet that does it? Holy crap

edit- my bad, I thought this was recent. lol, of course no-one cared about it. What the hell have we become?