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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #750 on: February 10, 2025, 10:19:16 AM »
It didn't take long to start unraveling the grift . . . That's why there's so much  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: from #blueanon. Unfortunately they probably won't get to the DOD or be able to target things like Ukraine. I would fully expect that it's a rabbit hole for the ages . . .

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It’s preposterous that they didn’t start with the DOD. Both the DOD and Ukraine should be prioritized way ahead of the couch coins that they’re going after right now.

To me, this implies that the current cutbacks are merely for political effect.

I want to see real action, not just owning the libs.

They are wasting Elon and the doge’s resources by focusing on this crap right now they should be using all available horsepower to analyze the DOD and identify opportunities to cancel contracts and find new vendors who can do it at a fraction of the price. That sort of focus would save exponentially more money than the current app approach.

His entire campaign was based on this. This is all it was ever about. He doesn't care about saving the government money. He wants revenge and to hurt the people that opposed him. Turns out, there is going to be a lot of collateral damage, but he also doesn't care about that. Neither does president Elon.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #751 on: February 10, 2025, 10:22:29 AM »


It didn't take long to start unraveling the grift . . . That's why there's so much  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: from #blueanon. Unfortunately they probably won't get to the DOD or be able to target things like Ukraine. I would fully expect that it's a rabbit hole for the ages . . .

https://eko.substack.com/p/override
It’s preposterous that they didn’t start with the DOD. Both the DOD and Ukraine should be prioritized way ahead of the couch coins that they’re going after right now.

To me, this implies that the current cutbacks are merely for political effect.

I want to see real action, not just owning the libs.

They are wasting Elon and the doge’s resources by focusing on this crap right now they should be using all available horsepower to analyze the DOD and identify opportunities to cancel contracts and find new vendors who can do it at a fraction of the price. That sort of focus would save exponentially more money than the current app approach.

They're not wasting Musk's resources because this is what Musk wants to focus on.  His goal is to wage his culture war, he doesn't give a crap about the budget.

I mean he probably doesn't want government contracts for his companies scrutinized. So in that respect, he gives a crap about the budget.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #752 on: February 10, 2025, 10:29:01 AM »
this entire exercise is basically just that dril tweet about candles


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #753 on: February 10, 2025, 10:48:37 AM »
this entire exercise is basically just that dril tweet about candles



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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #754 on: February 10, 2025, 11:45:45 AM »


It didn't take long to start unraveling the grift . . . That's why there's so much  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: from #blueanon. Unfortunately they probably won't get to the DOD or be able to target things like Ukraine. I would fully expect that it's a rabbit hole for the ages . . .

https://eko.substack.com/p/override
It’s preposterous that they didn’t start with the DOD. Both the DOD and Ukraine should be prioritized way ahead of the couch coins that they’re going after right now.

To me, this implies that the current cutbacks are merely for political effect.

I want to see real action, not just owning the libs.

They are wasting Elon and the doge’s resources by focusing on this crap right now they should be using all available horsepower to analyze the DOD and identify opportunities to cancel contracts and find new vendors who can do it at a fraction of the price. That sort of focus would save exponentially more money than the current app approach.

They're not wasting Musk's resources because this is what Musk wants to focus on.  His goal is to wage his culture war, he doesn't give a crap about the budget.

I mean he probably doesn't want government contracts for his companies scrutinized. So in that respect, he gives a crap about the budget.
Relative to the legacy defense contractors he really has nothing to worry about it all his cost per unit measured on any factor obliterates the legacy defense contractors

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #755 on: February 10, 2025, 11:49:01 AM »


It didn't take long to start unraveling the grift . . . That's why there's so much  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: from #blueanon. Unfortunately they probably won't get to the DOD or be able to target things like Ukraine. I would fully expect that it's a rabbit hole for the ages . . .

https://eko.substack.com/p/override
It’s preposterous that they didn’t start with the DOD. Both the DOD and Ukraine should be prioritized way ahead of the couch coins that they’re going after right now.

To me, this implies that the current cutbacks are merely for political effect.

I want to see real action, not just owning the libs.

They are wasting Elon and the doge’s resources by focusing on this crap right now they should be using all available horsepower to analyze the DOD and identify opportunities to cancel contracts and find new vendors who can do it at a fraction of the price. That sort of focus would save exponentially more money than the current app approach.

They're not wasting Musk's resources because this is what Musk wants to focus on.  His goal is to wage his culture war, he doesn't give a crap about the budget.
I absolutely acknowledge that he’s quite amused by the current approach, but I do think he and most of the tech oligarchs want to avoid the national financial distress associated with deficit interest payments exceeding tax revenue.

My HOPE is that the department of defense is a source for much if not most of that savings. Maga boomers and Maga, Gen X should temper some of the entitlements targeting but millennials and Gen Z are undoubtedly mumped.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #756 on: February 10, 2025, 11:57:01 AM »


It didn't take long to start unraveling the grift . . . That's why there's so much  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: from #blueanon. Unfortunately they probably won't get to the DOD or be able to target things like Ukraine. I would fully expect that it's a rabbit hole for the ages . . .

https://eko.substack.com/p/override
It’s preposterous that they didn’t start with the DOD. Both the DOD and Ukraine should be prioritized way ahead of the couch coins that they’re going after right now.

To me, this implies that the current cutbacks are merely for political effect.

I want to see real action, not just owning the libs.

They are wasting Elon and the doge’s resources by focusing on this crap right now they should be using all available horsepower to analyze the DOD and identify opportunities to cancel contracts and find new vendors who can do it at a fraction of the price. That sort of focus would save exponentially more money than the current app approach.

They're not wasting Musk's resources because this is what Musk wants to focus on.  His goal is to wage his culture war, he doesn't give a crap about the budget.

I mean he probably doesn't want government contracts for his companies scrutinized. So in that respect, he gives a crap about the budget.
Relative to the legacy defense contractors he really has nothing to worry about it all his cost per unit measured on any factor obliterates the legacy defense contractors

that's not what he's evaluating though.

And like, relative to legacy defense contractors most of USAID probably shouldn't have much to worry about, either.

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« Reply #757 on: February 10, 2025, 12:01:24 PM »


It didn't take long to start unraveling the grift . . . That's why there's so much  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: from #blueanon. Unfortunately they probably won't get to the DOD or be able to target things like Ukraine. I would fully expect that it's a rabbit hole for the ages . . .

https://eko.substack.com/p/override
It’s preposterous that they didn’t start with the DOD. Both the DOD and Ukraine should be prioritized way ahead of the couch coins that they’re going after right now.

To me, this implies that the current cutbacks are merely for political effect.

I want to see real action, not just owning the libs.

They are wasting Elon and the doge’s resources by focusing on this crap right now they should be using all available horsepower to analyze the DOD and identify opportunities to cancel contracts and find new vendors who can do it at a fraction of the price. That sort of focus would save exponentially more money than the current app approach.

They're not wasting Musk's resources because this is what Musk wants to focus on.  His goal is to wage his culture war, he doesn't give a crap about the budget.
I absolutely acknowledge that he’s quite amused by the current approach, but I do think he and most of the tech oligarchs want to avoid the national financial distress associated with deficit interest payments exceeding tax revenue.

My HOPE is that the department of defense is a source for much if not most of that savings. Maga boomers and Maga, Gen X should temper some of the entitlements targeting but millennials and Gen Z are undoubtedly mumped.

I don't believe he cares even a little bit about deficit spending. We are shutting down grants in progress for construction of infrastructure, medical studies (with foreign study participants not receiving any care or monitoring for their experimental drugs or procedures), food payments, etc. It would be one thing to alter how funds are distributed, but shutting down ongoing work doesn't end up saving us anything. Those contractors will end up being paid, and we won't end up with any of the product.

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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #758 on: February 10, 2025, 12:05:28 PM »
You can't expose our WASTE-FRAUD-ABUSE!!  :curse: :curse: :curse: . . . #blueanongE/#blueanon


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Re: Let's talk about Elon Musk
« Reply #759 on: February 10, 2025, 12:08:33 PM »
I can't imagine what kind of non attentive simp brain you have to be to think that the government doesn't cancel contracts.

I realize that the grift had gotten to be so massive and Treasury was just a printing press of no questions asked check writing (thus $9 Trillion in spending we didn't have, so we had to borrow it) . . . but once upon a time, the government used to cancel contracts and grants all the time.


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« Reply #760 on: February 10, 2025, 12:20:11 PM »
I can't imagine what kind of non attentive simp brain you have to be to think that the government doesn't cancel contracts.

I realize that the grift had gotten to be so massive and Treasury was just a printing press of no questions asked check writing (thus $9 Trillion in spending we didn't have, so we had to borrow it) . . . but once upon a time, the government used to cancel contracts and grants all the time.

The government typically cancels a contract when the recipient fails to meet requirements. That is not what this is.

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« Reply #761 on: February 10, 2025, 12:24:41 PM »
Does the government cancel contracts in the face of the discovery of waste-fraud-abuse?

Here's what you're just going to need to reconcile yourself with . . . USAID was a cash laundromat of which significatn parts were used to run human trafficking operations, and attack political opponets of the American left.

Had you guys truly stuck to those sorghum programs, and things that actually helped people have food and clean drinking water . . . USAID as you knew it would still be alive and kicking right now.  But you turned it into a big slush fund for #blueanon political and social agendas, funneling millions upon millions to grifters.

Insert Samantha Power (who amazingly is worth tens of millions but has only been paid about $180K a year give or take for years) posing with a Soros here.




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« Reply #762 on: February 10, 2025, 12:26:54 PM »
I absolutely acknowledge that he’s quite amused by the current approach, but I do think he and most of the tech oligarchs want to avoid the national financial distress associated with deficit interest payments exceeding tax revenue.

I think you are being very generous to them considering that the CFPB is at the top of their list to eliminate.

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« Reply #763 on: February 10, 2025, 12:27:22 PM »
Does the government cancel contracts in the face of the discovery of waste-fraud-abuse?

Here's what you're just going to need to reconcile yourself with . . . USAID was a cash laundromat of which significatn parts were used to run human trafficking operations, and attack political opponets of the American left.

Had you guys truly stuck to those sorghum programs, and things that actually helped people have food and clean drinking water . . . USAID as you knew it would still be alive and kicking right now.  But you turned it into a big slush fund for #blueanon political and social agendas, funneling millions upon millions to grifters.

Insert Samantha Power (who amazingly is worth tens of millions but has only been paid about $180K a year give or take for years) posing with a Soros here.

No, they typically don't fabricate a whole lot of waste/fraud/abuse in Africa so they can cancel wind and solar construction in America.

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« Reply #764 on: February 10, 2025, 12:46:08 PM »
Does the government cancel contracts in the face of the discovery of waste-fraud-abuse?

Here's what you're just going to need to reconcile yourself with . . . USAID was a cash laundromat of which significatn parts were used to run human trafficking operations, and attack political opponets of the American left.

Had you guys truly stuck to those sorghum programs, and things that actually helped people have food and clean drinking water . . . USAID as you knew it would still be alive and kicking right now.  But you turned it into a big slush fund for #blueanon political and social agendas, funneling millions upon millions to grifters.

Insert Samantha Power (who amazingly is worth tens of millions but has only been paid about $180K a year give or take for years) posing with a Soros here.

No, they typically don't fabricate a whole lot of waste/fraud/abuse in Africa so they can cancel wind and solar construction in America.

They're shutting down huge portions of a solar plant in California 15 years early, and the DOE is likely not going to get their loan money back.

So what you're talking about is just more pet projects.

There is no "fabrication" . . . it was a grift for the ages, and many times in places like Africa, USAID was just a cut out for the DOD/CIA.




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« Reply #765 on: February 10, 2025, 12:48:57 PM »
The pet projects were selected through a competitive grant process. It's merit-based. And that's good news if true on the government getting mumped over on their loan.

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« Reply #766 on: February 10, 2025, 12:55:43 PM »
The pet projects were selected through a competitive grant process. It's merit-based. And that's good news if true on the government getting mumped over on their loan.

That's way too overly simplistic.

The aggregators laundered money through to favorites and grifters to the tune of billions of dollars.

Then the ultimate recipient of the funds would then get up and tell people they don't get any Federal money, which is a total and complete lie.

When you have waste-fraud-abuse at this level, things are going to get paused.

I am not at all surprised that you are saying that about the nearly $2 billion the DOE threw down the drain . . . for a facility that even by environmentalist open admission, has ravaged the habitat and the animals that live in it.




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« Reply #767 on: February 10, 2025, 02:05:52 PM »


It didn't take long to start unraveling the grift . . . That's why there's so much  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: from #blueanon. Unfortunately they probably won't get to the DOD or be able to target things like Ukraine. I would fully expect that it's a rabbit hole for the ages . . .

https://eko.substack.com/p/override
It’s preposterous that they didn’t start with the DOD. Both the DOD and Ukraine should be prioritized way ahead of the couch coins that they’re going after right now.

To me, this implies that the current cutbacks are merely for political effect.

I want to see real action, not just owning the libs.

They are wasting Elon and the doge’s resources by focusing on this crap right now they should be using all available horsepower to analyze the DOD and identify opportunities to cancel contracts and find new vendors who can do it at a fraction of the price. That sort of focus would save exponentially more money than the current app approach.

They're not wasting Musk's resources because this is what Musk wants to focus on.  His goal is to wage his culture war, he doesn't give a crap about the budget.

I mean he probably doesn't want government contracts for his companies scrutinized. So in that respect, he gives a crap about the budget.
Relative to the legacy defense contractors he really has nothing to worry about it all his cost per unit measured on any factor obliterates the legacy defense contractors

that's not what he's evaluating though.

And like, relative to legacy defense contractors most of USAID probably shouldn't have much to worry about, either.
I was just addressing the hypothetical of doge scrutiny of Elon’s own contracts, where his competitors are legacy defense contractors

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« Reply #768 on: February 10, 2025, 02:19:29 PM »
The pet projects were selected through a competitive grant process. It's merit-based. And that's good news if true on the government getting mumped over on their loan.

That's way too overly simplistic.

The aggregators laundered money through to favorites and grifters to the tune of billions of dollars.

Then the ultimate recipient of the funds would then get up and tell people they don't get any Federal money, which is a total and complete lie.

When you have waste-fraud-abuse at this level, things are going to get paused.

I am not at all surprised that you are saying that about the nearly $2 billion the DOE threw down the drain . . . for a facility that even by environmentalist open admission, has ravaged the habitat and the animals that live in it.

this might bring back @sys

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« Reply #769 on: February 10, 2025, 02:26:18 PM »


It didn't take long to start unraveling the grift . . . That's why there's so much  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: from #blueanon. Unfortunately they probably won't get to the DOD or be able to target things like Ukraine. I would fully expect that it's a rabbit hole for the ages . . .

https://eko.substack.com/p/override
It’s preposterous that they didn’t start with the DOD. Both the DOD and Ukraine should be prioritized way ahead of the couch coins that they’re going after right now.

To me, this implies that the current cutbacks are merely for political effect.

I want to see real action, not just owning the libs.

They are wasting Elon and the doge’s resources by focusing on this crap right now they should be using all available horsepower to analyze the DOD and identify opportunities to cancel contracts and find new vendors who can do it at a fraction of the price. That sort of focus would save exponentially more money than the current app approach.

They're not wasting Musk's resources because this is what Musk wants to focus on.  His goal is to wage his culture war, he doesn't give a crap about the budget.
I absolutely acknowledge that he’s quite amused by the current approach, but I do think he and most of the tech oligarchs want to avoid the national financial distress associated with deficit interest payments exceeding tax revenue.

My HOPE is that the department of defense is a source for much if not most of that savings. Maga boomers and Maga, Gen X should temper some of the entitlements targeting but millennials and Gen Z are undoubtedly mumped.

So I guess I'll ask a third time. Where are you seeing net interest payments are going to exceed tax revenue?

The CBO long-term estimate for 2054 is that net interest payments would be about 1/3 of revenue.

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« Reply #770 on: February 10, 2025, 03:39:02 PM »


It didn't take long to start unraveling the grift . . . That's why there's so much  :bawl: :bawl: :bawl: from #blueanon. Unfortunately they probably won't get to the DOD or be able to target things like Ukraine. I would fully expect that it's a rabbit hole for the ages . . .

https://eko.substack.com/p/override
It’s preposterous that they didn’t start with the DOD. Both the DOD and Ukraine should be prioritized way ahead of the couch coins that they’re going after right now.

To me, this implies that the current cutbacks are merely for political effect.

I want to see real action, not just owning the libs.

They are wasting Elon and the doge’s resources by focusing on this crap right now they should be using all available horsepower to analyze the DOD and identify opportunities to cancel contracts and find new vendors who can do it at a fraction of the price. That sort of focus would save exponentially more money than the current app approach.

They're not wasting Musk's resources because this is what Musk wants to focus on.  His goal is to wage his culture war, he doesn't give a crap about the budget.
I absolutely acknowledge that he’s quite amused by the current approach, but I do think he and most of the tech oligarchs want to avoid the national financial distress associated with deficit interest payments exceeding tax revenue.

My HOPE is that the department of defense is a source for much if not most of that savings. Maga boomers and Maga, Gen X should temper some of the entitlements targeting but millennials and Gen Z are undoubtedly mumped.

So I guess I'll ask a third time. Where are you seeing net interest payments are going to exceed tax revenue?

The CBO long-term estimate for 2054 is that net interest payments would be about 1/3 of revenue.
What is the assumed interest rate in that?

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« Reply #771 on: February 10, 2025, 04:25:49 PM »
Wouldn't you know it, Elon thinks possibly the most successful government program in US history is full of FRAUD!

https://x.com/DeanBaker13/status/1888601650505331143

Alex Cole's sue of the word now in this tweet is very funny to me.

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« Reply #773 on: February 10, 2025, 07:33:51 PM »
https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouthpaw.bsky.social/post/3lhu2pjvnp22z


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« Reply #774 on: February 10, 2025, 08:11:07 PM »
https://bsky.app/profile/nycsouthpaw.bsky.social/post/3lhu2pjvnp22z


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