Let's talk about Elon Musk

[Pete]

I'm assuming Pete knows Elon (or one of his companies) is going to search the whole internet with AI and see who was nice to him. And now Pete has a lot of pro-Elon posts so he can be one of the chosen ones.

For the record Elon, I think you're a rough ridin' Nazi doofus. But my wife, daughter, and kid on the way all love you and think you're brilliant.

This guy gets it.

[steve dave]

https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1883686946888901092?s=46


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[CNS]

I pay for the ChatGPT 4o. Will not be working with a Chinese AI.

[IPA4Me]

https://x.com/spectatorindex/status/1883686946888901092?s=46


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https://x.com/pourteaux/status/1882655692030640188?t=SqP4v6J-KGOzFeJJuhy48w&s=19

[LickNeckey]

AFD background

https://www.tpr.org/podcast/the-source/2024-07-31/frontline-investigates-the-rise-of-the-neo-nazi-afd-party-in-germany

[michigancat]

Is this your efficiency expert?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1883406720548188186

[Kat Kid]

Elon Musk is dedicated to eliminating what he considers the woke mind virus.  That is one reason why he has aligned with MAGA.  The other reason is the hope that MAGA does indeed burn it all down.

One should also keep in mind he is very much influenced by the likes of Curtis Yarvin.  He 'interest' in saving humanity is not inclusive of anything beyond him and his inner circle of tech bros.

The tech billionaires have created bunkers in New Zealand and dream of colonizing Mars and spreading their genetic material widely. They are 1) acutely aware of climate change and its knock on effects 2) preparing to save themselves 3) prepared to kill anyone who stands opposed

They don't fantasize about blasting off to Mars because they love humanity, they despise humans. They want a place where they can continue to live apart from the clamoring hordes.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2023/02/the-apocalyptic-delusions-of-the-silicon-valley-elite

We have just watched a war in which quadcopter drones and AI target lists were used both to excuse the humans perpetrating this, and also to sanitize the experience with a layer of separation and safety. That was a practice round for the United States and ultimately the rest of the West.

Do you think Trump isn't going to look at that and bring it to the border? I do.

We are being de-sensitized to violence as a normal course of action from the state to be deployed against OTHERS. It is now so deeply embraced by many that there are large swathes of the population that would absolutely endorse concentration camps for immigrants and the homeless.

Don't worry about what you'll do in the future, decide what you will do today.

[steve dave]

Colonizing Mars is about the dumbest thing anyone could be into. We have a perfectly good planet right here. It has an atmosphere and everything. Stuff lives on this planet.


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[Kat Kid]

Colonizing Mars is about the dumbest thing anyone could be into. We have a perfectly good planet right here. It has an atmosphere and everything. Stuff lives on this planet.


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We can't even sustain life on Antarctica. It is dumb. No one watched Interstellar?

[steve dave]

The stuff we eat just lives here. It grows out of the dang ground and wanders around places. The sunlight and temperature? It’s perfect amounts for our own bodies by some wild coincidence!


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[steve dave]

We don’t even need space suits usually!


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[steve dave]

The thing we drink just falls out of the sky and is on the ground and in the ground already!


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[Rage Against the McKee]

I am all for Elon moving to Mars.

[Pete]

Is this your efficiency expert?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1883406720548188186

Reminds me of the Apple III.

[Pete]

Is this your efficiency expert?

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1883406720548188186

Reminds me of the Apple III.

Hahaha JK, JK.   Nah, this is tho.  And remember, absolutely crushing the legacy defense contractors on price for performance is transferable to all areas of defense because it’s the exact same players.  Disrupting defense spending to lower a top 5 cost line item in the budget could be how we can attempt to afford social programs, isn’t it?

Here is a ranked list of major U.S. government spending on space-related operations with private companies since SpaceX's founding in 2002:

1. **SpaceX**: Over $4.9 billion under NASA’s Commercial Crew Transportation Capability (CCtCap) contract for ISS crew transport (2014–2030)[8]. Additionally, a $1 billion contract for the ISS deorbit vehicle[2][5].
2. **Boeing**: Significant funding under CCtCap, but less than SpaceX due to delays and technical issues[8].
3. **Orbital Sciences Corporation (now Northrop Grumman)**: $170 million for COTS cargo development in 2008[3].
4. **Rocketplane Kistler**: $207 million initially awarded but terminated in 2007 due to unmet milestones[3].

SpaceX dominates due to its cost-efficiency and reliability.

Sources
[1] R&D for space: Who is actually funding it? - McKinsey & Company https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/aerospace-and-defense/our-insights/r-and-d-for-space-who-is-actually-funding-it
[2] SpaceX's Valuation Tops $200B, Signs $1B NASA Contract to ... https://observer.com/2024/06/elon-musk-spacex-valuation-200b/
[3] GAO-09-618, NASA: Commercial Partners Are Making Progress, but ... https://www.gao.gov/assets/a291016.html
[4] New historic high for government space spending mostly driven by ... https://nova.space/press-release/new-historic-high-for-government-space-spending-mostly-driven-by-defense-expenditures/
[5] NASA awards SpaceX nearly $1 billion contract to build ISS deorbit ... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/06/27/spacex-internatnional-space-stastion/74229291007/
[6] Space launch market competition - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_launch_market_competition
[7] SCB, New and Revised Statistics for the U.S. Space Economy, 2017 ... https://apps.bea.gov/scb/issues/2024/06-june/0624-space-economy.htm
[8] NASA Awards SpaceX More Crew Flights to Space Station https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/nasa-awards-spacex-more-crew-flights-to-space-station/
[9] Your Guide to NASA's Budget | The Planetary Society https://www.planetary.org/space-policy/nasa-budget
[10] SpaceX just stomped the competition for a new contract—that's not ... https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/07/spacex-just-stomped-the-competition-for-a-new-contract-thats-not-great/

[Pete]

I welcome seeing legacy defense contractors getting exposed for their inefficiency and high cost.  I fully acknowledge that this is merely a byproduct of the tech oligarchs waning to build cool toys for themselves.

[Pete]

SpaceX has significantly reduced launch costs compared to legacy providers:

- **Falcon 9**: Costs approximately $17–$18.25 million internally per launch, with customer-facing prices around $69.75 million in 2024, achieving $2,720/kg to Low Earth Orbit (LEO)[2][7][10].
- **Starship**: Expected to lower costs to $200–$600/kg, potentially as low as $10/kg with advancements. A single launch could cost $2–$10 million in the future[1][5][9].
- **Legacy Providers**: NASA's Space Launch System (SLS) costs $2.5 billion per launch, or ~$54,500/kg for LEO[3][7].

SpaceX's reusability and efficiency offer up to 100x savings over traditional systems.

Sources
[1] Moore's Law Meet Musk's Law: The Underappreciated Story of ... https://www.aei.org/articles/moores-law-meet-musks-law-the-underappreciated-story-of-spacex-and-the-stunning-decline-in-launch-costs/
[2] Falcon 9 Launch Cost : r/SpaceXLounge - Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/SpaceXLounge/comments/1d8fbds/falcon_9_launch_cost/
[3] Space Launch System - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Launch_System
[4] The new era of heavy launch - The Space Review https://www.thespacereview.com/article/4626/1
[5] SpaceX Starship Roadmap Lower Launch Costs by 100 Times https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2025/01/spacex-starship-roadmap-to-100-times-lower-cost-launch.html
[6] spacex - What is the cost breakdown for a Falcon 9 launch? https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/8330/what-is-the-cost-breakdown-for-a-falcon-9-launch
[7] [PDF] The Recent Large Reduction in Space Launch Cost https://ttu-ir.tdl.org/server/api/core/bitstreams/d4074c60-2e50-4e92-a49b-e2fbc2be4b91/content
[8] The Recent Large Reduction in Space Launch Cost https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20200001093
[9] The Starship revolution in space - ASPI Strategist https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/the-starship-revolution-in-space/
[10] Falcon 9 - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_9
[11] Space launch market competition - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_launch_market_competition
[12] What is SpaceX doing differently with their Falcon 9 so that it doesn't ... https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/65806/what-is-spacex-doing-differently-with-their-falcon-9-so-that-it-doesnt-cost-as

[Pete]

Now, while we read all of these objective numbers, it’s important to remember that Elon is a piece of crap, entirely self-serving, and cares nothing for humanity in the present day and only for the abstract notion of the continuance of the human species at a future date beyond our children’s children’s children’s lifetime.

Those concerns, while significant, do not change math. It is the single most effective way to disrupt legacy defense contractors and reduce defense spending while still attempting to maintain defense effectiveness.

I hope we find even more and better ways to reduce defense spending and if somebody’s got a better idea apart from just having less defense, I’m all ears.

[Pete]

Again, I acknowledge that he is mean and does not like transgenders.

[michigancat]

https://x.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1883827197708046511

[Pete]

https://x.com/MarkLevineNYC/status/1883827197708046511

Horrible miss. Hopefully the tunnel digging tech comes in handy someday in some other way.

I think it’s good that you’re still paying attention to the tunnel digging because absolutely nobody else is and this one could’ve slipped through the gaps .

[Pete]

I want to get out in front of this one…. I’m guessing the cost efficiency of the it is not a flamethrower is pretty terrible..

[DQ12]

I support us going to mars because it would be cool.  That is a worthwhile end in my view.

If we get other tangential benefits (they have useful stuff there we could practically use in 200 years!), that's nice, but I don't really care about it.

[wELLsculptedbrows]

a very emo hunts elk so his infant child is able to eat feel to it.

OMG

That dude's also 100,000% on the spectrum.

[Spracne]

I don't know if you all watched the full clip but he also talked about the importance of "German values and culture" and the danger of losing that through "multiculturalism that dilutes everything". He stopped himself just short of keeping the bloodline clean.

The "we shouldn't feel guilty for sins of, oddly specifically, our parents and grandparents and great-grandparents" was also bad, but felt less specifically tied to Nazi ideology.

What sins do you suppose were committed by the grandparents and great-grandparents of the German people? Were they bad about leaving the water running when they brushed their teeth?

Point taken.

However, I wonder if you dudes have ever attributed any positives to the culture of Germany? I sure have.

Is it your opinion that positive cultural attributes are eternal and immutable?

Pete is turning into affable dax ...