Let's talk about Elon Musk

[star seed 7]

Chong, you’re a technology guy. So to speak would you say that there are way more people with your skills than there are jobs?

No.  Not for my particular job and skills.

Let’s broaden it. I’m under the impression that there are way more engineering jobs in this country than there are qualified engineers for those jobs. What’s the right solution to address that within the next 10 to 20 years?

I contend that the best option to address that gap is bringing smart people here. I also admit that Elon Musk will likely behave like every other rough ridin' capitalist and try to maximize his benefit and minimize his cost and profit maximize.

In short, that’s why I support labor unions.

Engineers will be replaced with ai in 10 years unless we keep Germany pure

[Pete]

I'm saying we got the scientists who didn't want to be Nazis once Germany embraced fascism.

None of those rough ridin' scientist had any choice in the matter. Including when they were in Germany, and when they were forcibly brought to America, those motherfuckers were slaves.

[star seed 7]

I'm saying we got the scientists who didn't want to be Nazis once Germany embraced fascism.

None of those rough ridin' scientist had any choice in the matter. Including when they were in Germany, and when they were forcibly brought to America, those motherfuckers were slaves.

Yes, so you repeatedly using them as a whitewash makes no sense.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Show hands here how many of you motherfuckers will quit your job if you find out that your company CEO is a bigot?

I won’t. I’m the single breadwinner for my rough ridin' family. I might start looking for a new job if I find that out, but if I can’t find one that helps me to provide for my family as well, I’m staying right the eff where I’m at.

I would find a new job. It's not that hard.

[Pete]

Chong, you’re a technology guy. So to speak would you say that there are way more people with your skills than there are jobs?

No.  Not for my particular job and skills.

Let’s broaden it. I’m under the impression that there are way more engineering jobs in this country than there are qualified engineers for those jobs. What’s the right solution to address that within the next 10 to 20 years?

I contend that the best option to address that gap is bringing smart people here. I also admit that Elon Musk will likely behave like every other rough ridin' capitalist and try to maximize his benefit and minimize his cost and profit maximize.

In short, that’s why I support labor unions.

Engineers will be replaced with ai in 10 years unless we keep Germany pure

Or put another way if the culture of Germany drastically changed, we might have fewer and less effective engineers that come from Germany. I don’t happen to think that bringing in more Muslims will get rid of Germany’s culture of producing engineers. But I do think that there are people in Germany, who are worried about that.

[Pete]

Show hands here how many of you motherfuckers will quit your job if you find out that your company CEO is a bigot?

I won’t. I’m the single breadwinner for my rough ridin' family. I might start looking for a new job if I find that out, but if I can’t find one that helps me to provide for my family as well, I’m staying right the eff where I’m at.

I would find a new job. It's not that hard.

Maybe at the level of income you’re interested in. How many mouths are you feeding these days?

[Rage Against the McKee]

I'm saying we got the scientists who didn't want to be Nazis once Germany embraced fascism.

None of those rough ridin' scientist had any choice in the matter. Including when they were in Germany, and when they were forcibly brought to America, those motherfuckers were slaves.

I think we are talking about different people. I am referring to the scientists who fled in the 30s, and I think you are talking about the actual Nazis who we should have killed with nerve gas.

[Pete]

OK, nobody likes a guy who leaves the table with a bunch of cash so let me just say that all of you guys have won the argument today I have completely lost. There’s nothing left to debate please all of you go about your lives with the full satisfaction of victory, I’m going to log off and grab a sandwich

[Rage Against the McKee]

Show hands here how many of you motherfuckers will quit your job if you find out that your company CEO is a bigot?

I won’t. I’m the single breadwinner for my rough ridin' family. I might start looking for a new job if I find that out, but if I can’t find one that helps me to provide for my family as well, I’m staying right the eff where I’m at.

I would find a new job. It's not that hard.

Maybe at the level of income you’re interested in. How many mouths are you feeding these days?

Money isn't everything. And I have also never switched jobs without getting a pay increase.

[star seed 7]

Chong, you’re a technology guy. So to speak would you say that there are way more people with your skills than there are jobs?

No.  Not for my particular job and skills.

Let’s broaden it. I’m under the impression that there are way more engineering jobs in this country than there are qualified engineers for those jobs. What’s the right solution to address that within the next 10 to 20 years?

I contend that the best option to address that gap is bringing smart people here. I also admit that Elon Musk will likely behave like every other rough ridin' capitalist and try to maximize his benefit and minimize his cost and profit maximize.

In short, that’s why I support labor unions.

Engineers will be replaced with ai in 10 years unless we keep Germany pure

Or put another way if the culture of Germany drastically changed, we might have fewer and less effective engineers that come from Germany. I don’t happen to think that bringing in more Muslims will get rid of Germany’s culture of producing engineers. But I do think that there are people in Germany, who are worried about that.

Well we aren't talking about you Pete we are talking about Elon and your denial that he has any racial weirdness. (to be fair you have actually argued that of course he's racist just that none of his weird racial crap is intentional)

[CHONGS]

Chong, you’re a technology guy. So to speak would you say that there are way more people with your skills than there are jobs?

No.  Not for my particular job and skills.

Let’s broaden it. I’m under the impression that there are way more engineering jobs in this country than there are qualified engineers for those jobs. What’s the right solution to address that within the next 10 to 20 years?

I contend that the best option to address that gap is bringing smart people here. I also admit that Elon Musk will likely behave like every other rough ridin' capitalist and try to maximize his benefit and minimize his cost and profit maximize.

In short, that’s why I support labor unions.

Well Elon doesn't and that is a big reason he wants H1B visas protected.  If all things were equal and he could get cheap, qualified white labor without the visas he would also support ending the H1B visa program.

[star seed 7]

OK, nobody likes a guy who leaves the table with a bunch of cash so let me just say that all of you guys have won the argument today I have completely lost. There’s nothing left to debate please all of you go about your lives with the full satisfaction of victory, I’m going to log off and grab a sandwich

Have a great day Pete, I still love you. Go chiefs.

[star seed 7]

I also am in favor of H1B visas and I also don't care when penniless José comes here searching for a better life. Ultimately I'm concerned that Elon is trying to change that great American culture.

[Trim]

I’m holding six or seven of you fuckers off right now.

[Trim]

Show hands here how many of you motherfuckers will quit your job if you find out that your company CEO is a bigot?

I won’t. I’m the single breadwinner for my rough ridin' family. I might start looking for a new job if I find that out, but if I can’t find one that helps me to provide for my family as well, I’m staying right the eff where I’m at.

I'd not buy their products.  More of you people should do that re: tesla.

[CHONGS]

OK, nobody likes a guy who leaves the table with a bunch of cash so let me just say that all of you guys have won the argument today I have completely lost. There’s nothing left to debate please all of you go about your lives with the full satisfaction of victory, I’m going to log off and grab a sandwich

Have a great day Pete, I still love you. Go chiefs.

Me too.  I don't want you to think any of this was personal. 

[CNS]

Guys, I really recommend forgoing being a woke partisan $!#*. Root for America. Accept that crap head oligarchs can be useful and have proven to be over and over throughout American history, and world history.

Life is much, much easier when you try to accept what you can’t control and focus on the silver linings and ways to make the most of it.

Pete, I respect you.  We've been posting here a long time.  I agree with you all the time.  I have missed most of this thread since my previous post and have only caught up to this comment, but I hope you don't think my concern is from being a woke partisan $!#*.  I may be that, but I can assure you that I appreciate the nuance of this overall sitch and that I do want many, if not all, the stuff you want from tech.  I think it reasonable to be concerned by the prospects of Elon's actions. 

I am fully in agreement that we need to be leading the world in AI.  Whoever doesn't will lose.  Period.  Same for quantum computing.  I think we should have the best of the best constantly challenging, reviewing, and scrutinizing all the tech you note.  We should be fully supporting it and we should be doing our best to tear it down, via debate, so that we know what comes out of it is good.  The stakes are really rough ridin' high here, and I don't like going full gas/no brake with people that are as politically pliable as Elon, Bezos, Zuck, etc. 

[star seed 7]

Did you guys hear about the Chinese dudes that were able to build their own chatgpt for like 6 million instead of the billions other models have taken? Is Elon washed and these dudes are the future?

[Rage Against the McKee]

No, but I did see that they are selling better cars than Elon makes and they only cost $10k.

[CNS]

What are the biggest dangers to the species right now? You know, besides non-white immigrants and trans people.

Everyone on this board will be watched, monitored and evaluated by an AI at one point in time in the future. The biggest danger to humanity lies in who gets to train and align that AI.

Have you been following what Larry Elisson has been saying about AI and surveillance of the citizenry?  Have you also been following that Trump wants TikTok to be sold to Larry and Oracle?  This is off topic to what I was getting at with Elon, but it is on topic for the path that this thread has taken.  It's a great example of needing to slow our roll so that we don't end up with all the tech but end up being absolutely mumped by it.  In the end, if we are absolutely harmed by the tech, does it matter if it's a foreign govt or Larry?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Who's to say Larry isn't worse?  I honestly don't know and I am not qualified to know, but I also know that Donald rough ridin' Trump isn't qualified yet the above is actual news from this week.  That is conerning.

[yoga-like_abana]

I did not have Pete turning into the board villain in 2025!


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[wetwillie]

I wonder what kind of sandwich Pete made

[Rage Against the McKee]

I wonder what kind of sandwich Pete made

Probably a schnitzel sandwich.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

What are the biggest dangers to the species right now? You know, besides non-white immigrants and trans people.

Everyone on this board will be watched, monitored and evaluated by an AI at one point in time in the future. The biggest danger to humanity lies in who gets to train and align that AI.

Have you been following what Larry Elisson has been saying about AI and surveillance of the citizenry?  Have you also been following that Trump wants TikTok to be sold to Larry and Oracle?  This is off topic to what I was getting at with Elon, but it is on topic for the path that this thread has taken.  It's a great example of needing to slow our roll so that we don't end up with all the tech but end up being absolutely mumped by it.  In the end, if we are absolutely harmed by the tech, does it matter if it's a foreign govt or Larry?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  Who's to say Larry isn't worse?  I honestly don't know and I am not qualified to know, but I also know that Donald rough ridin' Trump isn't qualified yet the above is actual news from this week.  That is conerning.

The whole thing has a very

Tech company: at long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from the classic sci-fi novel “Don’t Create The Torment Nexus”

Kind of feel.

Although I’m not sure anyone is debating that. I think even the most ardent supporters of AI recognize this will absolutely be used against humanity in general, I think the focus of the debate is will it be used for good, and if so will the good outweigh the bad

[wetwillie]

Did you guys hear about the Chinese dudes that were able to build their own chatgpt for like 6 million instead of the billions other models have taken? Is Elon washed and these dudes are the future?

What's this thing called