What bowl game are we playing?

[michigancat]

eff Rutgers for going after the kneel downs. It’s the rate bowl. Maybe do it if you’re competing in the playoffs or for a giant breakfast pastry, but it’s a meaningless exhibition. Jersey trash

They knocked off one of their own helmets! So dumb

[Sandstone Outcropping]

eff Rutgers for going after the kneel downs. It’s the rate bowl. Maybe do it if you’re competing in the playoffs or for a giant breakfast pastry, but it’s a meaningless exhibition. Jersey trash

That was pure garbage. They did it 2 or 3 times after it was obvious they could not stop the clock. Klieman should have ripped Schiano for that.

[Winters]

Rutgers is a VILE program

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Rutgers is a VILE program

I mean, if they didn't want Avery to run out the clock on them, maybe they shouldn't have turned it over on downs with 2 minutes left in the game...

[wetwillie]

I think this is very cool. Must be an awesome feeling for these dudes to re-unite with their HS coach on the sideline after winning a bowl game.

https://x.com/sportsinkansas/status/1872500490493170035

Gus is a large human being

[Kid In the Hall]

eff Rutgers for going after the kneel downs. It’s the rate bowl. Maybe do it if you’re competing in the playoffs or for a giant breakfast pastry, but it’s a meaningless exhibition. Jersey trash

That was pure garbage. They did it 2 or 3 times after it was obvious they could not stop the clock. Klieman should have ripped Schiano for that.

Schiano has been doing that forever. He's been called out for it an infinite number of times - especially during his awful stint in the NFL.

That zebra ain't changing his stripes

[Trim]

Why did we go for 2 on the prior TD?


Tom

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Tom, I have no idea. One of the more baffling decisions I've ever seen

It’s some dumb crap teams are doing now when down 14 (or 17, 14 + fg) with the premise that 2-point conversions are 50/50 so go for it on td #1 and if you make it the other td gets the win instead of tie, and if you miss it you’ll get the next one b/c 50/50 and you’re even.

It’s dumb.

attorneys don't have to take math in college

Show your work.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

eff Rutgers for going after the kneel downs. It’s the rate bowl. Maybe do it if you’re competing in the playoffs or for a giant breakfast pastry, but it’s a meaningless exhibition. Jersey trash

That was pure garbage. They did it 2 or 3 times after it was obvious they could not stop the clock. Klieman should have ripped Schiano for that.

Schiano has been doing that forever. He's been called out for it an infinite number of times - especially during his awful stint in the NFL.

That zebra ain't changing his stripes

People on the internet say that Schiano loses a lot so therefore his teams get to practice aggressive defense against the victory formation on a lot of occasions. May just be a rumor.

[EMAWzifried]

We don’t win that game if Giddens plays


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Giddens probably runs for 300 yards against that woeful rush defense.

[Stevesie60]

Page 6 of this thread is fantastic.

[ChiComCat]

The 2pt conversion logic requires that the opposing team is done scoring (or a score essentially equates to a loss). I think it’s generally smart but was dumb to do as early as we did. There are too many scenarios where the other team scores and the math is mumped. For example, we could’ve had a 4 pt lead late as opposed to a 3pt which is pretty significant.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

Very nice game by the offense, and nice of the D to show up in the fourth quarter.

Really encouraging to see Dylan utilized in the slot more.  He’s probably the best home run threat running back we’ve ever had.

Avery has a long way to go to be as good as he can be, but that’s a good thing, because he was pretty darn good lastnight.  Even with the bad INT, he was making better decisions more consistently.

Yeah they finally used Dylan more like they should. I love DJamer but they never changed of pace Dylan like they did last night

Avery does have imo a ways to go passing at least. So many times it seems he misses a very obviously open man in favor of a guy being converged on. Like perfect example was the two point conversion we actually did convert. Number 0 was wide the eff open early in the play but then he hits Oakley in the back. Yes it was a great play but Oakley was pretty well covered. the Peggy positives is it worked and was a great play, the negative Nancy is he missed a much easier opportunity. He needs to allow the play to develop and wait for the guy to get open, or keep looking for the wide open guy. His best play to me was the 4th down conversion to Cephas. He kept the play alive and allowed a guy to get open.

I'm sure this is all coachable and experience based it just sticks out to me how often he doesn't seem to find the obviously open guy.

I also say this with the he just threw more tds in a season that any other QB we've had. Maybe my standard is high.

It could be that you have high standards, it could also be that the #2 and #3 were Roberson in 03 when we won a Dr Pepper and michael bishop in 98 when we were a double overtime game away from playing for a national championship. Obviously this season was not nearly as successful as those other 2.

[DQ12]

The thing about Avery is that everyone had really unreasonable expectations for him this year (I.e. having pretty high odds for the heisman).  He had some accuracy issues.  He wasn’t a particularly aggressive runner.  And he made some really bad decisions.

He also had a very nice year for a sophomore QB.  So yeah, it’s an expectations thing mostly. He’ll get a lot better, imo, and he’s already pretty good.

[michigancat]

I'd love to see how his running and deep ball stats compare before and after the CU game

[deputy dawg]

Schiano says that Ragtears lost cuz their headsets didn't work properly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/technical-issues-play-part-in-rutgers-rate-bowl-collapse-to-kansas-state-greg-schiano-says/ar-AA1wzq4Z?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[KITNfury]

They lost because they ran into THE University of Kansas State.

[pissclams]

The thing about Avery is that everyone had really unreasonable expectations for him this year (I.e. having pretty high odds for the heisman).  He had some accuracy issues.  He wasn’t a particularly aggressive runner.  And he made some really bad decisions.

He also had a very nice year for a sophomore QB.  So yeah, it’s an expectations thing mostly. He’ll get a lot better, imo, and he’s already pretty good.

he didn’t have high heisman odds iirc

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

The second half of the season felt like the play calling was centered around not getting Avery hurt.  I hope they can bulk him up more during the off season.

[wetwillie]

The thing about Avery is that everyone had really unreasonable expectations for him this year (I.e. having pretty high odds for the heisman).  He had some accuracy issues.  He wasn’t a particularly aggressive runner.  And he made some really bad decisions.

He also had a very nice year for a sophomore QB.  So yeah, it’s an expectations thing mostly. He’ll get a lot better, imo, and he’s already pretty good.

he didn’t have high heisman odds iirc

He was +2500 which was 11th best.  Best odds of any player in the B12.

[BIG APPLE CAT]

The second half of the season felt like the play calling was centered around not getting Avery hurt.  I hope they can bulk him up more during the off season.

It’s unfortunate because we all saw it coming. I think we had consensus he needed to bulk up to around 265 to minimize his chance of injury. You can lead a horse to water, etc etc

[catastrophe]

Schiano says that Ragtears lost cuz their headsets didn't work properly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/technical-issues-play-part-in-rutgers-rate-bowl-collapse-to-kansas-state-greg-schiano-says/ar-AA1wzq4Z?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Wouldn’t they require the other team to turn off their headsets if one side is faulty? Or is that just the NFL I’m thinking about.

[Katpappy]

The second half of the season felt like the play calling was centered around not getting Avery hurt.  I hope they can bulk him up more during the off season.

It’s unfortunate because we all saw it coming. I think we had consensus he needed to bulk up to around 265 to minimize his chance of injury. You can lead a horse to water, etc etc

LOL, they didn't want him hurt because of the drop to the backup QB.

[michigancat]

Schiano says that Ragtears lost cuz their headsets didn't work properly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/technical-issues-play-part-in-rutgers-rate-bowl-collapse-to-kansas-state-greg-schiano-says/ar-AA1wzq4Z?ocid=BingNewsSerp

I wonder how many ksu fans realize we set a record for total offense that game.

Says a lot about how shitty the special teams were, honestly

[cfbandyman]

The thing about Avery is that everyone had really unreasonable expectations for him this year (I.e. having pretty high odds for the heisman).  He had some accuracy issues.  He wasn’t a particularly aggressive runner.  And he made some really bad decisions.

He also had a very nice year for a sophomore QB.  So yeah, it’s an expectations thing mostly. He’ll get a lot better, imo, and he’s already pretty good.

he didn’t have high heisman odds iirc

He was +2500 which was 11th best.  Best odds of any player in the B12.

Then won by, and I agree with. The best player Travis Hunter

[pissclams]

The thing about Avery is that everyone had really unreasonable expectations for him this year (I.e. having pretty high odds for the heisman).  He had some accuracy issues.  He wasn’t a particularly aggressive runner.  And he made some really bad decisions.

He also had a very nice year for a sophomore QB.  So yeah, it’s an expectations thing mostly. He’ll get a lot better, imo, and he’s already pretty good.

he didn’t have high heisman odds iirc

He was +2500 which was 11th best.  Best odds of any player in the B12.

i guess that’s high?