It’s time to have a conversation about Jerome Tang

[nicname]

Don't invoke KSO over here.

People are talking about things exactly as the occurred during the course of the season.

Suggestion for Jerome Tang and company: Don't come off of 10 days of practice looking like hot garbage and getting worked by Drake and 2 transfers from Northwest Missouri State.  Then get back into the game, then produce a hot garbage Weberesque out of a time out last shot play.  Then have a guy who was bitching about conditioning on a podcast be completely gassed at crunch and clanking critical FT's.

Lose the game . . . take responsibility for it, which is fine. Then start having your player (and you) start throwing in the completely unnecessary references to mean Tweets . . . which in turn undermines or waters down you taking responsibility for not having your team ready to play.

You cannot demand butts in seats, get not one but two pay raises in 2 years, be out there on the circuit openly brow beating the grass roots (and BMD's) for NIL money, be given that NIL money to go get dudes . . . produce this product, and then expect people to just sit back and accept what they're seeing.

That's not the way it works in this world, dude.

Did you mention openly testing job market?

That being said anyone who tweets at any player is a weirdo

Word is the dude who tweeted the real
Mean stuff wasn’t even a cat fan, but a disgruntled gambler

Do we think a gambler will physically attack a player someday in the US? I bet there's a good chance. (Heh)

There is a great chance.

https://newrepublic.com/article/189263/online-sports-betting-alito-losses

I completely foreswore sports betting after losing a big bet on K-State beating Arky St. after j rake told me it was a sure thing because Arky St had a COVID outbreak. I genuinely thank him for that.

As far as the best argument that I and many others used to make about bringing black markets public....I have to admit I'm not quite as sure about it any more. Who is the more efficient and ruthless capitalist? Tony Soprano or Wall Street?

I am typing this from Vegas where I am visiting some family for the holidays and the entire city is a monument to inequality, pleasure and misery. It is the most American city because it reflects America back to ourselves.

I think a slight improvement would be to remove the sports betting from phones/internet and decouple the insanely addictive dopamine hit of the phone, the anonymity and comfort of placing the bet in shameful isolation.

You want to place a bet? Great. Go hang out at the dog tracks, horse tracks, OTBs, sports books and casinos. Smell the cigarette smoke and look around and see if this is what you want.

Perhaps the striking finding by the SMU team, however, was the confirmation of the oldest data point in the history of gambling: The house always wins. Fewer than 5 percent of the gamblers that its survey tracked withdrew more money than they deposited from online sports betting apps. This is unsurprising, partly because the odds are always tilted in the sportsbook’s favor and partly because sports betting companies go to great lengths to freeze out gamblers with a track record of success. The Wall Street Journal reported in July on how some winning bettors will find themselves unable to place more than a few dollars or even as little as 50 cents in future bets, limiting the sportsbook’s potential losses—and the customer’s potential success.

While sportsbooks suppress the winners, they take extraordinary pains to keep everyone else chasing their losses. This can be particularly dangerous when addiction is a factor. The Athletic profiled an Arizona man who lost more than $110,000 during a 15-month betting spree, which saw him take out multiple loans and contemplate suicide to erase his debts before coming clean to his wife and seeking help. Like many addicts, he hoped that one big win could help erase dozens of smaller losses.

He hated himself. Several times, he tried quitting and would go days without placing a bet. Then his phone would ping. It was his VIP representative from FanDuel with a text message.

Hey Jordan … I just gave you a $200 bonus bet into your account.

Beautiful

[cfbandyman]

Don't invoke KSO over here.

People are talking about things exactly as the occurred during the course of the season.

Suggestion for Jerome Tang and company: Don't come off of 10 days of practice looking like hot garbage and getting worked by Drake and 2 transfers from Northwest Missouri State.  Then get back into the game, then produce a hot garbage Weberesque out of a time out last shot play.  Then have a guy who was bitching about conditioning on a podcast be completely gassed at crunch and clanking critical FT's.

Lose the game . . . take responsibility for it, which is fine. Then start having your player (and you) start throwing in the completely unnecessary references to mean Tweets . . . which in turn undermines or waters down you taking responsibility for not having your team ready to play.

You cannot demand butts in seats, get not one but two pay raises in 2 years, be out there on the circuit openly brow beating the grass roots (and BMD's) for NIL money, be given that NIL money to go get dudes . . . produce this product, and then expect people to just sit back and accept what they're seeing.

That's not the way it works in this world, dude.

Did you mention openly testing job market?

That being said anyone who tweets at any player is a weirdo

Word is the dude who tweeted the real
Mean stuff wasn’t even a cat fan, but a disgruntled gambler

Do we think a gambler will physically attack a player someday in the US? I bet there's a good chance. (Heh)

There is a great chance.

https://newrepublic.com/article/189263/online-sports-betting-alito-losses

I completely foreswore sports betting after losing a big bet on K-State beating Arky St. after j rake told me it was a sure thing because Arky St had a COVID outbreak. I genuinely thank him for that.

As far as the best argument that I and many others used to make about bringing black markets public....I have to admit I'm not quite as sure about it any more. Who is the more efficient and ruthless capitalist? Tony Soprano or Wall Street?

I am typing this from Vegas where I am visiting some family for the holidays and the entire city is a monument to inequality, pleasure and misery. It is the most American city because it reflects America back to ourselves.

I think a slight improvement would be to remove the sports betting from phones/internet and decouple the insanely addictive dopamine hit of the phone, the anonymity and comfort of placing the bet in shameful isolation.

You want to place a bet? Great. Go hang out at the dog tracks, horse tracks, OTBs, sports books and casinos. Smell the cigarette smoke and look around and see if this is what you want.

Perhaps the striking finding by the SMU team, however, was the confirmation of the oldest data point in the history of gambling: The house always wins. Fewer than 5 percent of the gamblers that its survey tracked withdrew more money than they deposited from online sports betting apps. This is unsurprising, partly because the odds are always tilted in the sportsbook’s favor and partly because sports betting companies go to great lengths to freeze out gamblers with a track record of success. The Wall Street Journal reported in July on how some winning bettors will find themselves unable to place more than a few dollars or even as little as 50 cents in future bets, limiting the sportsbook’s potential losses—and the customer’s potential success.

While sportsbooks suppress the winners, they take extraordinary pains to keep everyone else chasing their losses. This can be particularly dangerous when addiction is a factor. The Athletic profiled an Arizona man who lost more than $110,000 during a 15-month betting spree, which saw him take out multiple loans and contemplate suicide to erase his debts before coming clean to his wife and seeking help. Like many addicts, he hoped that one big win could help erase dozens of smaller losses.

He hated himself. Several times, he tried quitting and would go days without placing a bet. Then his phone would ping. It was his VIP representative from FanDuel with a text message.

Hey Jordan … I just gave you a $200 bonus bet into your account.

I concur, and it's sort of the same reason we keep voting for a certain someone to be prez (not wanting to pit this up tho). Vegas is not necessarily the most extreme version of America, it's more the most unfettered reality of it.

Also, JFC is that gross what the books do, though not surprised. 

[Skipper44]

this Tech crowd is late stage Asbury bad 

[Sandstone Outcropping]

this Tech crowd is late stage Asbury bad 

Classic midweek grinder!

[HerrSonntag]

are we allowed to get excited about a 10-0 run or is everyone already too #BID?

[michigancat]

are we allowed to get excited about a 10-0 run or is everyone already too #BID?

enjoy it! our friend DNG is playing hard!

[EMAWzifried]

Team doing a lot right, but still can't rebound.

[EMAWzifried]

SIGH. We had our moment.

[pissclams]

what does tacos and tequila night consist of?

[Kid In the Hall]

what does tacos and tequila night consist of?

Presumably pulling the self-trigger in the bathroom after every run of 10+ we give up...

[michigancat]

Not dead yet!

[michigancat]

jesus this team

[michigancat]

It's unreal we're only down 2 in the last 2 minutes

[Kid In the Hall]

Can we give both teams a loss?

Jesus christ the last 5 minutes have been awful both ways

[EMAWzifried]

We found a team that handles the ball worse than we do. Unreal. Let's hoot more 3s

[EMAWzifried]

Totally litting we lost by giving up an offensive rebound.

[michigancat]

pretty incredible finish by both teams

[Kid In the Hall]

I still haven't made up my mind which is worse - the fact that this team full of upperclassmen is so soft/mentally weak/low b-ball IQ or the fact that this coaching staff can't figure out how to prevent them from being that way.

Our possessions the last 5 minutes of the game (when Tech was begging us to take the W):

05:14   KState   - Missed 3PT jumper by KState #33 hawkins, coleman
04:54   KState   - Missed 3PT jumper by KState #0 mcdaniel, dug
04:02   KState   - Missed 3PT jumper by KState #10 castillo, david
03:30   KState   - Turnover by KState #33 hawkins, coleman
02:42   KState   - Missed 3PT jumper by KState #11 hausen, brendan
01:57   KState   - Turnover by KState #10 castillo, david
01:15   KState   - Missed layup by KState #10 castillo, david
00:49   KState   - Missed 3PT jumper by KState #33 hawkins, coleman
00:12   KState   - Missed 3PT jumper by KState #10 castillo, david
00:08   KState   - Offensive rebound by KState #33 hawkins, coleman
00:06   KState   - Missed layup by KState #33 hawkins, coleman

[michigancat]

Most of the 3s in that stretch were pretty decent shots. The turnovers would be unfathomably bad for a high school team

[KST8FAN]

pretty incredible finish by both teams

LoL.  I had to screen shot that too.  5 min drought only down 2.


Tom

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[michigancat]

pretty incredible finish by both teams

LoL.  I had to screen shot that too.  5 min drought only down 2.


Tom

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5 minute drought by BOTH TEAMS

[Kid In the Hall]

Most of the 3s in that stretch were pretty decent shots. The turnovers would be unfathomably bad for a high school team

Castillo shooting is never a good shot at this point.

And after the first two or three didn't go down, have some situational awareness and drive the ball.

We scored 3 effing points in the last 9 minutes of this basketball game.

Good shot, bad shot, whatever - that's a colossally poor performance by the coaches and the players. It's just so completely inept.

[michigancat]

Most of the 3s in that stretch were pretty decent shots. The turnovers would be unfathomably bad for a high school team

Castillo shooting is never a good shot at this point.

And after the first two or three didn't go down, have some situational awareness and drive the ball.

We scored 4 effing points in the last 9 minutes of this basketball game.

Good shot, bad shot, whatever - that's a colossally poor performance by the coaches and the players. It's just so completely inept.

Yeah obviously the results stink but man with some of those turnovers that are just like an inability to dribble or complete a pass I don't know what you expect anyone to do other than blow up the roster

[michigancat]

 IMO this team's biggest problem on offense is you got a bunch of guys afraid to attack in any way so like any decent look at a three feels like a major win

[BIG APPLE CAT]

We’re going to need as many moral victories as we can get this year so keep em coming