Transgender issues (not necessarily in sports)

[Stupid Fitz]

This issue hasn't gotten enough attention IMO.........

[michigancat]

Is this the only match in the tournament that the trans lady won?

Looks like she went 2-4

https://fencingtracker.com/event/31203/results

[Dugout DickStone]

in favor of kneeling all of the sudden lmfao

[sonofdaxjones]

Girls . . . I am going to tell you what to believe and how you should feel about this topic for the rest of your lives . . Dug Dad

tell me your kids were stupid without actually telling me

My kids are actually quite smart and I didn't tell them what to believe . . . but these idiotic analogies you're trying to use to give air cover for your disdain for cis-gendered females who only want to compete against other cis-gendered females in sports is on the same level of total derp that cRusty attempts to employ by talking about overall record or what place the dude finished in . . .

It's just a total cop out and dumb AF

[Cire]

Girls . . . I am going to tell you what to believe and how you should feel about this topic for the rest of your lives . . Dug Dad

tell me your kids were stupid without actually telling me

My kids are actually quite smart and I didn't tell them what to believe . . . but these idiotic analogies you're trying to use to give air cover for your disdain for cis-gendered females who only want to compete against other cis-gendered females in sports is on the same level of total derp that cRusty attempts to employ by talking about overall record or what place the dude finished in . . .

It's just a total cop out and dumb AF

What about if the organization and community is supportive?

Shut everything down for a single maga someone who makes me uncomfortable?


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[nicname]

Sorry about that rusty. That was a jerky thing to say.

[Dugout DickStone]

Girls . . . I am going to tell you what to believe and how you should feel about this topic for the rest of your lives . . Dug Dad

tell me your kids were stupid without actually telling me

My kids are actually quite smart and I didn't tell them what to believe . . . but these idiotic analogies you're trying to use to give air cover for your disdain for cis-gendered females who only want to compete against other cis-gendered females in sports is on the same level of total derp that cRusty attempts to employ by talking about overall record or what place the dude finished in . . .

It's just a total cop out and dumb AF

You seem to be used to kids that can be told what to think so
I just assumed they were simple and were very bad with women

[michigancat]

Sorry about that rusty. That was a jerky thing to say.

I didn't think it was jerky FWIW! no need to apologize.

[MakeItRain]

Hey Dug that's not cool man.

Are you suggesting that he or others should be cool to people who express bigoted views?

[Cartierfor3]

Hey Dug that's not cool man.

Are you suggesting that he or others should be cool to people who express bigoted views?

Well, im suggesting that talking about someone else’s kids isnt cool. It’s not cool when Dax does it. I felt the temp rising in the thread and was hoping to pull back the reigns. I can just stay out of it if it’s helpful. 

[I_have_purplewood]

in favor of kneeling all of the sudden lmfao

The irony and double standard is rich isn't it? 

[Dugout DickStone]

Hey Dug that's not cool man.

Are you suggesting that he or others should be cool to people who express bigoted views?

Well, im suggesting that talking about someone else’s kids isnt cool. It’s not cool when Dax does it. I felt the temp rising in the thread and was hoping to pull back the reigns. I can just stay out of it if it’s helpful.

He seemed to be suggesting my kids can’t think for themselves when all I was saying is leave the women in sports to actual women in sports and not gross old men who are insisting on up skirt checks.

I assure you my actual kids who are females in sports give zero about how much Riley Gaines or the fencing girl are trying to make.

[_33]

I see common ground is being found, opinions are being expressed with grace and civility, and opposing viewpoints are not being demonized. Well done in the 'transgender issues' thread everyone lmao.

[mocat]

These days it's pretty hard to take the politics doesn't affect anybody / both sides are equally bad stance, but I respect the commitment to the bit

[michigancat]

Saw this on Reddit about the woman who kneeled:

Stephanie Turner actually fenced a mixed foil event 7 days earlier where there were men in her pool, and she fenced men in DE's and came in 8th out of 25, much higher than many of the men in the event. Managed to do all those bouts without black cards. So this isn't even a tiny bit don't want to fence men', it's pure don't want to fence trans people' which has nothing to do with imagined gender benefits, and everything to do with pure transphobia.

[chum1]

That's well said and really the crux of the matter to me and surely others here. People who claim to be pro fairness are ultimately simply anti transgender in general. Whether they realize it or not.

[Spracne]

That's well said and really the crux of the matter to me and surely others here. People who claim to be pro fairness are ultimately simply anti transgender in general. Whether they realize it or not.

"Whether they realize it or not" - They don't. That's the problem.

[I_have_purplewood]

That's well said and really the crux of the matter to me and surely others here. People who claim to be pro fairness are ultimately simply anti transgender in general. Whether they realize it or not.

"Whether they realize it or not" - They don't. That's the problem.

That is such horseshit. You just so badly want to believe it to be true.

[star seed 7]

Purplewood absolutely knows he hates trans people and don't any of you say otherwise

[Tobias]

lol, also how I read it

[I_have_purplewood]

Purplewood absolutely knows he hates trans people and don't any of you say otherwise

Go eff yourself bud.  You're a miserable piece of crap.  I haven't posted once in a trans thread and this is what you love to do.  You can't back any of your nonsense up either because you are so miserable.  You and others on this board can't stand someone having a different opinion as your own.  Well, actually not you because you just fall in line with what other libs say because you're incapable of having an actual thought.  This is also why the libs have such a shitty approval rating. 

[star seed 7]

Yikes, people having a different opinion than you makes you really angry.

[I_have_purplewood]

Yikes, people having a different opinion than you makes you really angry.

It's not.  It's pussies like you that accuse someone of being something that they're not because you're weak and have a pea brain.  This is at least the second time you've accused me of something that I'm not without any proof whatsoever. It's actually quite sad and I feel sorry for you.  If you want to accuse me of something, back it up.  I also realize that this is a message board and I really do appreciate all the banter and differing opinions.  It's when a douchebag like you can't come up with an argument or have a discussion and then have to resort to accusations that aren't even close to being true because you're so dumb. Pathetic.

[Spracne]

Purplewood absolutely knows he hates trans people and don't any of you say otherwise

Go eff yourself bud.  You're a miserable piece of crap.  I haven't posted once in a trans thread and this is what you love to do.  You can't back any of your nonsense up either because you are so miserable.  You and others on this board can't stand someone having a different opinion as your own.  Well, actually not you because you just fall in line with what other libs say because you're incapable of having an actual thought.  This is also why the libs have such a shitty approval rating.

The problem isn't your opinions. It's how you present your opinions as facts. Or take someone else's opinion as fact and state it as such. Also, what are we drinking tonight?

[star seed 7]

Purplewood absolutely knows he hates trans people and don't any of you say otherwise

Go eff yourself bud.  You're a miserable piece of crap.  I haven't posted once in a trans thread and this is what you love to do.  You can't back any of your nonsense up either because you are so miserable.  You and others on this board can't stand someone having a different opinion as your own.  Well, actually not you because you just fall in line with what other libs say because you're incapable of having an actual thought.  This is also why the libs have such a shitty approval rating.

The problem isn't your opinions. It's how you present your opinions as facts. Or take someone else's opinion as fact and state it as such. Also, what are we drinking tonight?

You're trying to reason with someone who thinks the funniest thing to happen the last five years was Paul Pelosi being hit with a hammer